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which could look pretty different this time tomorrow morning. massive winter storm is set to pound the northeast with an estimated 29 million people living in the blizzard's path. we're going to cover this all morning. weather experts are saying this may be one for the ages as snowfall totals could hit historic levels. while potentially shutting down new york city. people in the storms zone are preparing to be stuck indoors for days. grocery stores packed over the weekend with many shoppers finding empty shelves. critical agencies from the national guard, the state police are also going over their preparations. >> we usually prepare worst case scenario anyway. that being said we literally just got off the phone call with the national weather service and they're talking about historical monstrous. from that perspective, we are preparing for the worse. >> the storm is throwing off travel plans across the nation president airlines have canceled more than 1800 flights for today
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and more than 1600 have already been canceled for tomorrow. today amtrak plans to operate on a normal schedule but will re-evaluate as needed. salt trucks are all ready for the road bus local officials are warning residents to stay inside if possible. let's go right to bill karins who has been following this path. >> we have 12 hours left to get done with the preparations for these 29 million people in these blizzard warnings. that means gas tanks full. that means extra water in your house. make sure your batteries and flashlights are on your kitchen table so you the get to this. 48 to 60 hours in these areas without power and a very cold house with your family snowed in where no one is going to be able to get to you. that is what you have to prepare for. that's the worst case scenario. hopefully it will be better for everyone. but we doubt it. the blizzard warnings have not changed much since we went to
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bed. still watching them from down east maine, through boston through providence hartford, new haven, down along the jersey shore. that is this region. that's the area that needs to be off the roads by at the latest 8:00 p.m. tonight, maybe 6:00 p.m. then you're going to be stuck in your location likely to probably until you can dig yourself out sometime during the day on wednesday. probably tell you to stay off the main roads until thursday. here's my snowfall forecast. i haven't really updated these too much. they've been very consistent. if we're going to bust if there's one area hardest forecast, it's the hudson valley from albany new york straight down to new york city down through jersey and philadelphia. it's the back edge of the storm. it's questionable how much moisture is going to get thrown back. that's kind of the troublesome spot. we know for sure the providence forecast portland hartford those look set in the stone, much of new england. that's the two feet possible of snow. maybe isolated up to three feet. the new york city forecast the going with 18 to 22 which is a huge storm for new york city.
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the record storm for new york city is 27 inches. we're in that ballpark for top ten possible snowstorm in new york city's 150-year history of record keeping. the other thing to keep in mind last couple of big storms hasn't been too difficult to get out and shovel. let me take you through the windchill values in this storm. unfortunately very cold air mass settled in over quebec. this storm is going to tug and pull that cold air down. that's why this storm is almost all snow. but when we talk about the windchill values. here we go through the peak of the storm. 7:00 a.m. tomorrow morning, 9:00 in hartford lower than that was ago through tuesday night, especially into wednesday morning. mika, most people will be shoveling come wednesday morning. these are your windchill values. single digits down to d.c. back up through new england. it's not going to be fun trying to dig out from this storm. not having power could make this even worse. again, 12 hours to prepare. >> okay bill we will be checking in with you all morning long. thank you very much. so this was the weekend when the race for 2016 began in
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earnest. >> big weekend. >> we have a lot to tell you. >> part one of it. >> just out this morning the "wall street journal" reports new jersey governor chris christie is starting a presidential pact called leadership matters for america. last night the top tier senators who might run, held a forum hosted by the koch brothers. controversial congressman steve king's freedom summit brought a who's who of 2016 contenders. immigration was front and center. people who were opposed to some of the language he's used in the past to describe undocumented workers. in stark contrast at a separate event governor jeb bush said there needs to be a legalized path to citizenship and there was no way those already here would be deported. hend mitt romney stayed away from steve king's event but the candidates who came tried to leave an eshlly mark in a race that favors those who come early
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and often. >> good idea or bad idea for jeb and mitt to stay away from iowa? >> well, it is what it is right? i think if that was what jeb wanted to communicate this weekend, that comprehensive immigration form one that acknowledged the reality, it's not 11 million people here, it's more like 17 million people are not going to self-defor the as mitt romney would have them do. they're going to stay here. they're either stay here and become legal -- >> but here's the question about jeb. he's picking up a trait that john mccain had and that is not only opposing what's important to conservatives, but seeming to take great delight in sticking a sharp stick in their eye and saying hello, i'm jeb bush. i'm better than you. >> it's not that i'm better. -- >> why do you go to san francisco and talk about how much more enlightened you are than what's going on in iowa? >> you can call it reality, enlightened. what jeb bush articulated may
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cost him the republican nomination but it doesn't make it untrue. >> you're missing my point. he doesn't have to do that. just like john mccain didn't have to go out of his way -- >> asked by the press his position on immigration by every journalist, you know that's the reality. >> there's a good way to do it and another way to do glit is would it have been better to spin the truth on immigration to be better liked in iowa? i applaud him for his courage. i applaud him for his position. i think until we can win with that message, we will lose the white house. >> we can win with that message. the question, again, mark happen prin, does he really need to go to san francisco and hold a speech talking about immigration immigration, just to show how much more enlightened he is than those knuckle draggers in iowa? >> what i learned about jeb bush in iowa this weekend at that forum and talking to people in iowa is he's going to have to fight for this nomination a lot harder than his brother did and his brother had to fight pretty
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hard. doing what he did this weekend illustrates the biggest problem with his candidacy, and i think his candidacy is strong the gap between what elites think about him and how much interest there is for him in the grass roots. there's not a lot of interest for him in the grass roots and there's some hostility. he can't skip iowa. >> hostility because he's a bush or not conservative enough? >> those things plus. they just think he's yesterday. they want a new, fresh candidate. they want somebody who is an energetic, involved in the current wars. his involvement in the current wars is about writing books and going to san francisco. they want a warrior like ted cruz. >> mika, what i'm saying about jeb right now has nothing to do with policy. i understand there are a lot of people that believe like heimmigration. a lot of them. it's the fact that i'm hearing among conserveative leaders, i'm hearing among conservative activists, they're concerned about the bush name, they're
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concerned about the past. you know he's the past. they're also concerned it's not just he opposes us there's just sort of this attitude that -- and they bring up mccain's name. the only reason i'm bringing it up, it's like john mccain where he has to go out of his way to provoke us and seem like he's smarter than we are. >> some did go to iowa and do sid msnbc's casey hunt. here's her report. >> wow. >> reporter: when steve king called the cattle came running. >> do you believe that the next president of the united states is going to be speaking from this stage to you today? >> reporter: almost a dozen potential presidential candidates all desperate to get ahead in iowa. >> let the pandering begin. i've fwon iowa 11 times in the last five years. >> hey iowa can anyone stop hillary? >> yes. >> reporter: who stood out? the new faces. >> in a republican primary every candidate is going to come in front of you and say i'm the
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most conservative guy to ever live. gosh darnest, who did lead on conservative? well, you know what? talk is cheap. >> reporter: ted cruz brought the house down. ben carson was a favorite. and karly fiorina went on offense. >> like hillary clinton, i, too, have traveled hundreds of thousands or miles around the globe. but unlike her, i've actually accomplished something. >> reporter: and surprise standout was scott walker. >> i like the direction they're headed. maybe that's why i've won the race for governor three times in the last four years. >> reporter: right now mitt romney and jeb bush are looming over the republican field. but they didn't show up on saturday. and nobody seemed to miss them. >> it looks like you might be running against mitt romney again in iowa? >> groundhog day, right? >> i can give you a little bit of news about mitt. most of you know he and jeb had a private meeting in utah it was so private it was on the front page of the "new york times." >> mitt romney? >> a loser. he lost.
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he should have won. he choked. >> jeb bush. >> the last thing we need is another bush. >> reporter: chris christie was left as the only establishment candidate to brave king summit. >> if i were too loud too new jersey for iowa then why do you people keep inviting me back? >> reporter: the new jersey governor made clear he isn't going to give up on iowa even in the face of stiff competition. history shows long shots can win in iowa if they're willing to put in the work. >> my advice is you skip iowa at your own peril. >> america is looking for a new path forward and starting today, right here in iowa let's give it to them! >> and sarah palin was among the speakers at congressman steve king's freedom summit. the former governor who says she is seriously interested in a presidential run delivered a rambling address that even some republicans are criticizing as incoherent. here is a portion. >> it must change.
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things must change for this cover -- our government. look at it. it isn't too big to fail. it's too big to succeed. it's too big to succeed so we can afford no retreads or nothing will change with the same people and same policies that got us into this status quo, another latin word status quo, and it stands for, man, the middle class, everyday americans are really getting taken for a ride. that's status quo. and gop leaders, by the way, you know the man can only ride ya when your back is bent. so strengthen it then the man can't ride you and america won't be taken for a ride because so much is at stake and we can't afford politicians playing games like nothing more is at stake than oh, maybe just the next standing of theirs in the next election. >> byron york writes about what
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he calls the gop palin problem. he quotes conservative activists who called the speech long and disjointed, weird, and terrible adding it didn't make any sense. york also quotes craig robinson of the blog who writes in part i'm not comfortable sharing everything i heard about the speech. it was that bad. no offense to governor palin, but i do think it is problematic to have someone give a speech like that in the middle of a string of serious speeches by people who are seriously thinking about running for president. >> casey heinz, byron york not a member of the left wing media elite. he is one of the best conservative writers in america. he echoed what i heard nonstop yesterday, that it was a terrible speech and that it was very painful for activists who once loved her to watch. >> yeah joe. i mean it was clear the audience really wanted to like what palin had to say and there was a lot of cheering a lot of
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applause everything you come to expect from a conservative crowd seeing governor palin. but as it wound on and on and on you could sense the people in the audience getting more and more confused kind of as the address went on. i would also say one of the other things byron york also pointed out that i agree with from having been there is the people who stood out at this summit were really the new faces in the republican party and sarah palin is really now on that list of old faces. the people that stood out were ted cruz scott walker the people who struggled a little bit more were palin as we pointed out and even arkansas governor mike huckabee who has a lot of good will but didn't seem to bring too much fresh to the table. >> well put. >> mark, talk about the conserve conservative conservative's reaction to the sarah palin speech. >> confusion. it went really long and she didn't -- she didn't seem to be in the arena. again, that's what a lot of these people want now. not just in iowa but around the country
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country. they don't want older people who have been commentators or speech maker or book writers. they want people currently involved in fighting the conservative fight. the fact that her speech was long and disjointed simply added to the past. >> they want people in the arena. >> yeah. >> obviously, nicole i would think you would have more insight than anyone. what do you think when you're watching that? >> well, it's interest that byron york came to that conclusion in 2008 he was one of her staunchest defenders. i remember on on the south home with him, he was one of the harshest critics of the campaign's handling of her. he thought the problem with palin was the packaging of palin and to see him come full circle. this to me is evidence that she has finally shed last one of those annoying handlers. >> that might have helped her along the way. >> you put sarah palin on a bill like this because she's still a draw. >> people love her. >> emotional support for her. but by drawing all the nose eyeballs to it you put the focus on a moment like that and you have people like us talking about her speech rather than scott walker and chris christie.
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>> it's a tragedy, too. >> it's time. >> i say that because i remember, we all remember that night she spoke in 2008 at the convention. i will say it remains one of the most electrifying performances i've seen in the last four or five conventions i've been to. nobody expected her to do well. she delivered the lines well. she hit it out of the park. and, you know we will let history decide how she got from that point to this point. but no doubt about it. all right. following his other politics to cover. so much going on this weekend. following his state of the union address, president obama left many to wonder does he have enough political capital to pull off his proposals? last night on "60 minutes" the two top men in congress answered unequivocally no on everything from raising taxes on the rich to free community college. >> increasing the federal minimum wage. >> bad idea. dead.
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>> it's a bad idea. listen. i've had every kind of rotten job you can imagine growing up and getting myself through school. and i wouldn't have had a chance at half those jobs. it's a federal government had kept imposing higher minimum wage. you take the bottom wrungs off the economic ladder. >> the president has decried a rising wage gap but the two leaders put the blame at his feet. >> is income inequality a problem in this country? is it a problem that republicans want to address? >> it is. and frankly, the president's policies have made income inequality worse. all the regulations that are coming out of washington make it a more difficult for employers to hire more people. chief amongst those i would argue is obamacare. >> it sounded like he was running for a third term. he seemed to have completely forgotten or chose to ignore the election last november.
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>> we had a meeting at the white house last week. it was all very cordial. it was all very straightforward. i don't think -- i don't think that's the issue. you know the president could have at the state of the union just put out an olive branch could have taken just a little bit different tone that would have indicated to us that there's some interest in working with us. i can tell you, we're interested in working with him. >> so mika you're not a big fan of what they said. >> i just think they sound like they're describing themselves. >> what do you mean? >> what did that look like to you, nicole? >> i thought the speaker was excellent. i love the speaker. i've said it on this show before. i love hearing him talk about income inequality not from a defensive crowd. usually you turn to republican to income inequality. i like that they answered the question the way they did. i think when scott pelley ticked through the list that everything president obama proposed an they were all dead dead dead. >> no, no no no. >> it suggested something that
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would have -- everyone goes to trade. i don't think the american people have much hope that trade is going to lift us up. maybe they should. it's probably a policy level, a good idea. but i think this probably furthered the notion that nothing is going to change in washington. >> exactly. >> with the exception of paul ryan those two guys are going to have to step up and do this because the sgapgap in spokes people are going to be long because we're not going to have a party for the nominee for a long time. they're not ideal public faces but they are the leaders. they're going to have to do more than this and better than last night. but for them pretty good last night. >> yeah. willie if you're john boehner, you're balancing a few things one is obviously what the people out in tv land are thinking but more importantly for john boehner, what are people in his caucus thinking? and if john boehner sounded a lot tougher than a lot of people would want john boehner to sound, he had to. not only to be safe with his
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base but also to be able to go back to them and say, okay i think we can strike a deal. we've played it tough. we've driven the hard line. i think john boehner did exactly what john boehner had to do and i think mitch did as well. >> strategically probably yes. i still think and maybe i'm wrong about this that they need a better answer on that minimum wage question. people watching republicans, too, by the way, think $7.25 an hour of s. not a livable wage. it just sounds at this moment when so many people are struggling. >> nicole, i voted against minimum wage when i was in congress. i believe that minimum wage takes from one set of -- of lower income americans and gives to another set of lower income americans. but, politically, i just don't think the republicans going into the 2016 presidential election being the party that opposes
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people making more than $7.25 per hour. >> i agree. i think it's bigger than that. they also can't be the party that shows for wall street. i think we have to be the party again that shields for the working class family member. that does not include protecting taxes on banks. the banks can fight for themselves. i was happy to hear them tone down some of their support for big business. i was happy to hear john boehner to say why he opposed minimum wage. >> there are more and more people on minimum wage. >> they are not unaware that is the bottom wrung on the ladder. i think as a policy matter opposing it is not a good idea. >> i think the greatest challenge for the republican party going into 2016 is not being the party of the 1%. and when you talk about, hey i'm going to continue to support the minimum wage where it is you're causing problems. i'm glad they talked about income disparity. i'm glad they basically said we're not going to be captives of wall street. it would certainly help if there were a couple of candidates in 2016 that were against the type
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of crony capitalism that funnels a trillion dollars in tax breaks to the biggest businesses in america that talk about breaking up the banks, that talk about taking on the military industrial complex, talking about taking on the fig farm interest, big agricultural interests, they get farm subsidies for not planting crops. these are things that disconnect you from wall street, disconnect you from k-street and make you start focusing again on working class americans and americans who have had stagnant wages for too long. they've got to take on a lot of these business interests, these crony crap capitalists that are just as great of a threat to free markets as you know, socialists. >> i don't disagree with anything you are saying but just, yes or no did those two republicans move the meter in a positive direction for themselves in that interview yesterday? yes or no. >> i think they did fine. >> yes. joe is exactly right. >> by your measure did they improve upon what they said about those issues in the past
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absolutely. >> did they break through the party of no? >> right direction. >> they're not going to get you or your family to vote republican. but you know there are a lot of people out there -- >> my brother. >> a lot of people who weren't as shocked and stunned and deeply saddened as you are. >> i'm not shocked, stunned, deeply saddened i just think they look like the party of no that is getting in the way of everything. >> before we go to break, we need to talk about our weekend. >> it was awesome. >> so we went -- we actually went out to palm springs where charles and david koch have their winter meeting. johns carl was out there as well. a lot of presidential candidates were running around. the most remarkable thing was what they were talking about. you know i sat and talked to charles a good bit. chars koch a good bit. he was obsessed about, well, what i said and what i've been saying, income despairisparity and crony capitalism. anybody that thinks that they are loyal, faithful republicans
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have never talked to them for more than three minutes. >> libertarians. >> libertarians. >> they loath -- even though they did not say this to me they have no use for people that want to go out and, you know have these huge bloody battles on social issues. and, you know -- >> anti-establishment. >> they're anti-establishment. >> interesting. >> and the first thing chars said to me when he saw me was, he picked of specific republican bill. i said how are things going? he said, well, look what they're passing in washington. they're giving tax subsidies to hollywood. they're giving tax subsidies to wall street. they're giving tax -- i mean this guy is what my good buddy charlie hilton would call a true believer. it's pretty remarkable. anybody that -- i mean they have been painted as cartoon characters. >> definitely not what you think. >> they believe in freedom agenda
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agenda, low taxes, low regulations. they are libertarians. they don't want the federal government in your pocket book but they also don't want them in your bedroom. very interesting. willie, david, of course we were talking about what he's done in new york in the upper west side. pretty remarkable. >> yes. there are many museums or concert halls that don't have their names on them. >> or hospitals. >> medical hospitals. >> cancer research et cetera et cetera. still ahead on "morning joe," bill rhoden is here with the latest on deflategate. we'll also hear from the always out spoken seahawks cornerback richard sherman who is now weighing in on it. and we'll be checking in with bill karins and the reporters in the field all long tracking the potentially historic storm. i loved the look of the fusion... we test drove it...i was like "this is my car". all-wheel drive is amazing... i felt so secure. you can do it, emmie!
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storm. joining us from boston is the weather channel's jim canner er tocantore. >> this is going to be a big deal. this is going to shut down really one of the busiest parts of the world as we work our way through tonight and probably all day tuesday. as a matter of fact, there will be interstates that will be closed. american united have already canceled all flights in and out of boston, philly and new york for tomorrow. all right? that's a big deal to have an airline shut things down like that. guys. this isn't one of those where you bring out the ruler. you bring out up to three feet of snow expected. we brought out the yard stick for this one. that's the kind of snow we will see here like we did back in february of 201 when we got 24.9 inches. the haul of time record is 27.6 in boston. when you start seeing storms like this on the models you say maybe, maybe we could get there. but et cetera not just boston. it's hartford, providence, new york, philly, portland. if you look at the blizzard
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warnings they're from the jersry shore up to this state of connecticut. this is going to shut down the northeast and it should. people, do not, do not travel tomorrow. trust me on this. you will not be taken care of because emergency officials will not have a chance to get to you. >> that's about as clear as it gets. thank you so much. we'll check back in with you later in the show. time to take a look at the morning papers. we'll start with the washington times. officials confirmed this morning a suspicious device found at the white house grounds. first responders were seen on the grounds but as of now the device doesn't pose a serious threat. here is white house press secretary josh earnest earlier this morning. >> there is a device that has been recovered by the secret service at the white house. early indications is that it does not pose any skort of ongoing threat right now to anybody at the white house. but as the secret service has more information about their investigation, about what they've been able to learn about this, they will share more information on this. >> interesting. what was it?
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we'll find out. president obama is in india right now talking trade, nuclear energy and defense. but this is just the latest in a series of high-profile security concerns since september of last year. an intruder made it over the fence into the white house itself and early this month someone in a car fired gunshots at vice president biden's delaware home, though he was not there. >> they're going to have to be good, some sort of anti-drone device. i mean you could put explosives on one of those little drones and make a -- >> absolutely. >> heck i couldn't even keep it in my yard. >> we were talking about drones a lot lately. at airports they're a problem. there's not much stopping you from flying one of those from outside lafayette park over the fence. >> they'll go wherever. new york business journal, the price shaq is going to get. first ipo at 14 to 15 bucks a share. it put the popular bugger chain's value at $568 million
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♪ joining us for the must read opinion pages analysts for "the blaze," will kaine. >> will how are you doing? >> good. thank you. >> we've been talking about iowa what happened out there. you actually think that well, everybody likes to see the fresh faces, it's not the fresh faces around at the end. >> there are a couple of guy, mitt romney and jeb bush, who have the one thing, i think, that every business in america spins hundreds of millions of dollars on and that's trying to get name recognition. in every national poll shows that romney is the runway lead leader. that's why. i don't think that melts away. i think name recognition lasts. ted cruz however much he may excite the base he's got get america to know who he is. >> that's why you look mark halperin, keep come up to me,
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are you serious when you say romney could win? yeah, i'm serious. you know every republican hates mitt romney except the ones that vote. you look at poll after poll after poll after poll mitt is always up in the top. >> as long as he can turn this if he does run, to being about middle classworkers and the economy and less about him. i agree. i think he's -- he's a strong fund-raiser. that's a huge part of this. people can say what does it matter? it matters. he can raise hundreds of millions of dollars. >> what do people say about jeb? we had our talk about jeb and what he did and didn't do. but i will tell you where we were this weekend we picked up hostility toward some for both mitt and jeb. but what about where you were? >> people just -- it's less -- there's some hostility but he's just not top amind to iowa activists. he's not someone they know. >> who is? >> ted cruz walker after the weekend he did very well and, look, there's going to be an
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establishment candidate in iowa. right now chris christie who has hired two guys from governor branstead's team is stronger thereafter this weekend's performance. >> iowa activists, the question is how much do they matter? it's not a personal opinion but over the last eight years we've seen the winner of the iowa caucus simply didn't determine who the nominee was. all the guy on the stage this weekend, romney didn't show up, bush didn't show up, doesn't matter. >> it's a crucible they will have to go through. it's where a lot of the activity, the discussion will be. i agree with you that those two guys are stronger and they're undervalued right now in this discussion. but they're both going to have to fight for it. neither of them is going to have an easy time. >> let's go to maureen, she's a big, i think, steve king fan, loves steve king. >> backstage passes. >> i love her. proving once again, this is herpes. proving once again he's a different kind of cat, barack obama is oddly pumped by his
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party's defeat. even in the house chamber he seemed to delight dloo in his detachment as he laid down his own markers to drive up his own numbers. he doesn't mind splendid isolation. he really think it is it's splendid. he likes the game better when he's up against an opposing team. to him harry reid was as big a problem as my mcconnell. in the end the speech on tuesday told us less about the state of the union than the state of obama. the state of obama is strong if solitary. >> mark halperin? >> i got to see maureen has been on a roll about obama lately. she gets the president. i'm not sure she's right about the harry reid thing but everything else pretty much nails where the president's head is at. >> i don't think, willie geist, that barack obama would appreciate somebody saying that maureen dodd gets the president. she irritates him. but i think she gets him. >> you can hear what maureen is talking about. last night on "60 minutes," mcconnell and boehner were
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surprise ed what they heard from the chamber in the state of the union on tuesday which was not a guy who had been humbled by the results of those elections but a guy who said i don't have to run again. by the way, i won both times. a reminder to the republicans sitting in the room. but is now shooting for the moon. here's my pie in the sky agenda. here's what america ought to be doing. the only reason we're not doing it is because of these guys sitting here. >> i thought they look so thin skinned. i'm sorry. >> reminds me back when -- >> of course you do. >> he was mean to us. we're not going to do anything. no, no no because he's mean. >> where barack obama was -- >> yeah. >> i won. >> you say republicans are think skinned? >> yes. >> barack obama spiking the ball in the end zone during the state of the union address. >> mitch mcconnell said america is built on the concept of a robust debate. this idea that we always have to get along and get something done? no we're supposed to debate. >> fantastic. so on "60 minutes" they said no
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no, no no no no. >> disagreed. >> and his tone was very not conciliatory conciliatory. we're not happy. good-bye. thank you, scott pelley. >> george bush was president? >> here's where his tone might have been off. he may have been a little bit, but you know what there are some areas where we can work together and here's where we can do it. >> barack obama, you know what he said to republicans in the state of the union address? no, no no, no no. >> no he put idea on the table and said let's get it done. >> republicans can put ideas on the table, too. abolish the irs, the department of education. >> there's a nine-month window to get stuff done and right now we're not on track. >> regarding this president obama's confidence he may have reason to be confident. the economy may do well over the next couple years and many people are predicated his swagger, dana said he had a new swagger on a growing economy. china is slowing down. europe is fizzling. the oil market is turning down
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they were down approximately 1 1/2 pounds per square inch. the situation is the preparation of the ball caused the ball to be artificially high in psi. >> i'm not too worried about coach belichick competing with me. what we h said didn't make any sense. to really change the pressure you need one of these. the inflation needle. i cannot help but say, go seahawks! >> bill nye, huge seahawks fan. patriots coach bill belichick was on a scheduled news conference saturday offering that scientific analysis of how pre-game rub downs of the ball and atmospheric conditions contributed to the low pressure of the football. bill nye the science guy took issue with the analysis. >> he's a seahawks fan. come on. >> muddled the science. >> columnist for the "new york times," bill we were just talking, as i see you shaking your head, we all agree, cheating is bad. if they did this they houth to be punished.
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can you believe the life that this story has taken on? >> no absolutely. listen, would have been the major stories that have happened in the last week or so like you said. evaporated silver is -- but yet this story persists. and i guess, as you said we don't like cheaters. well, i think, inway, i think we are kind of fascinate with people who cheat, powerful people who cheat and continue to get away with it. but i think the classy thing about this is one of your last guests was talking about humility. this is not an error of no humility. if you watched that press conference the other day with belichick, clearly his science people, number one, they did the investigation. right? they did than ore investigation. he's giving the sports media this science lesson physics lesson. everybody's eyes just glazing over. you can just tell what is this guy, what is this guy talking
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about? seriously? we're here to -- you know we're getting ready to go to phoenix. >> crazy. >> just a week ago, willie he was going, like hey, come on man, i'm not a scientist. >> and now he is. >> he brushed up. he went on wikipedia. >> it happened. they did it. it happened. they did it. what the nfl doesn't know and i'm not sure they want to find it and they're going to find out. >> they don't want to find out. >> whoever knows someone in the boston, go to boston harbor somewhere. the question, who did it? who deflated that ball in the organization? >> you got to believe that however much ever money tmz is throwing at them, the palt trots is patriots is throwing more money at them. >> in the wake of ray rice they have to do a real investigation. >> no, they don't. >> don't the league have to do this serious? >> yes. but the bottom line is -- right now they're at the point of who did it who let the air out in the organization. do you think somebody in that organization is going to -- is
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going to rat out tom brady? >> it's cheating though. >> it is cheating. >> blah, blah blah blah. why does everybody hate the patriots? >> because they cheat. they've already done it. >> come on. >> whoa whoa whoa. >> by the way, the nfl is launching a ted wells investigation. independent investigation. >> shouldn't they cancel the super bowl? >> you can always count on richard sherman. he boils things down for us. the great seahawks defensive back spoke out on sunday calling into question the patriots' integrity and that of the entire investigation into deflategate. >> the past is what the past is. the present is what their present is. and will they be punished? probably not. not as long as robert kraft and reasonabler goodell are still taking pictures at their respective homes. you know i think it was just at kraft's house last week for the championship. talk about conflict of interest. i guess it is ironic that i was the villain last year seeing i didn't break any rules or do anything despicable.
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i just played the game. but i guess, you know in a sense, it's irony but, you know, who -- depends on who you ask. >> you know i think so great about this? is that how the patriots -- they didn't do this intentionally. they just basically seized the narrative of the super bowl. if this is not happening what are we talking about? russell wilson's last great comeback. that's what we're talking about. >> who is going to win? >> who going to the super bowl? >> i'm kind of like the -- no i like seattle. i like seattle, but you never can -- the patriots always find a way. obviously, they find a way to win. but i just -- i believe in karma. i believe in karma. i really do believe in karma. that's why i think -- although now, the franchise has the most people testing positive on peds has been historically seattle. they've got a lot of -- >> testing positive on who? >> performance enhancing drugs. >> come on. >> sorry. i thought you said something
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else. >> that's the great irony of this. everybody is so upset about a little air out of the ball when you look you can look on the tv set and you can see that every team is cheating. >> whoa whoa whoa. >> no, no no what i'm saying the players are juiced. peds are rampant. they don't have a tough drug policy in this league. and there's a reason why guys that weigh 280 pounds can run 4-6-40s. >> they're not getting caught. does this trouble you? clearly not. >> yes, it bothers me. >> no it doesn't. >> they cheat. there should be no super bowl. >> listen, if i stayed up at night because i knew quarterbacks were doing this i would never be able to watch baseball. they all scuff. we've known that for a generation. we freak out and say, gaylord perry, oh, my god, he can never pitch again. pitchers are constantly trying to do what? one thing. get a better grip. >> bill rhoden things. still ahead, a blizzard of
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romney. it's starting to snow. two or three feet it's going to be big, sort of biblical. so mitt romney a lot of reporting this weekend over mitt romney. is he going to run? is he not going to run? >> i still think he's more likely to run than not. lots of people in his life don't want him to run. as he reaches out beyond that inner circle that does i think he's hearing some pretty negative things. >> negative things like what you're only up by five points in every republican poll that's taken? >> you know as we said before it's name id. and -- >> so? >> well, but over time other people are going to get pretty well-known, by the time voters vote. i think if he runs he's a strong candidate for the nomination. people are worried about he can't win a general. >> i wonder, can anybody, nicole nicole, in this position that has run for president before and starts the next cycle in first place in just about every poll
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has that man or woman ever walked away? >> yes. >> who? >> mike huckabee. >> was mike huckabee in first place in every single poll? >> in lots of polls. not every single but lots of polls. >> mike huckabee knew he was going to run again in four years. mitt romney has two choices. one, run when he's in first place, nicole or two, don't run and be onboard and want to shoot yourself every morning for the next 25 years of your life because you're bored out of your mind. >> i wouldn't want to shoot myself. he's got a good life. he's got a big family. i mean listen i think that the problem with mitt romney is not mitt romney. the problem with mitt romney is structural. i talked to his folks a couple weeks ago and they've spent the last four years studying the data. they're still studying it. i think that what it shows is that no one has ever had a greater disparity between white and nonwhite voters.
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the country hasn't changed. it's become more disadvantageous to a mitt romney candidacy. structurally the republican party would be foolish to do that again. what do you think? >> i'm not sure. >> i disagree. people -- >> how do you think this structural problem is fixed this time? >> because things are never stagnant in politics. you're looking at numbers from 2008 and 2012 and you're seeing an extraordinary explosion of minority voters. i warned democrats about this all time when i speak to democratic groups. if you think that 2016's turnout is going to look like 2012 and 2008 with barack obama off the ballot you are like sniffing something. it's not. that's to say, republicans believed for 30 years that they could run and say what ronald reagan said and get the same report of turnout that ronald reagan did. ronald reagan was a phenomenon limited, two races that ronald reagan ran in.
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and barack obama is a phenomenon limited to races that barack obama ran in. 2008. there will be another 2008. 2012 were not excited. people got out and voted for him. hillary clinton is not going to get that. she's not going to get the turnout among hispanic voters and among black voters that barack obama got. she's just not. >> go back to romney though. you have to ask yourself trying to figure out, will he run? he clearly doesn't think that either chris christie or jeb bush is a slam dunk general election winner. >> he doesn't think jeb can win. >> certainly he thinks that's his trend line. he will run if he continues to believe that. and the question i think if you want to look at his psychology is why doesn't he think jeb can win, why doesn't he think christie can win? >> because he looked at one poll after another over the past year and a half and he's seen that people, for whatever reason aren't ready to elect the third
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bush in five presidencies. >> today. but people don't know jeb bush. >> guess what you keep talking about today. oh, today mitt romney is in first place. today jeb bush is -- >> what about tomorrow? >> unfortunately michael j. fox hasn't moved into his neighborhood lately and he can't get in the time machine and the delorean and find out what things are going to look like a year from now. you judge based on today. and if you're like mitt romney you say, okay wait a second, i start with this advantage that i haven't had before. i mean do you think mitt romney thinks i suck so bad they going to take these good numbers and make them worse? no. >> he did last time. that's the point. he did last time when he stood up and said his comment about 47%. you would think that he's fundamentally different guy who sees him and the country differently? >> hillary clinton lost, too. >> hillary clinton couldn't -- hillary clinton couldn't even run a book tour. hillary clinton blew 2008 in historic manner. she screwed it up so badly. she had to work over time and
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mark -- democrats are doing her again, maybe she's learned. >> speak like your mitt romney. tell me why it is governor romney, fry investigate romney, privately, forget the polls, today. >> because forget bridgegate chris christie has had eight credit downgrades in his own home state. he's upside-down in his own home state. his fiscal record in new jersey is an absolute disaster. democrats are going to tear him from him tolimb to limb. he's too thin skinned. he's going get pissed off at some point in iowa. he's going to raise his voice. >> why can't bush win? >> jeb bush is prickly. he hasn't been in the arena since 2006. he hasn't even been on tv much debating. he's been in this cocoon. he's been in this bubble. he bristles. there's no joy to jeb bush. he may be the smartest guy out there and he sure is a lot
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smarter than i am but his last name is bush. it may not be fair but americans are not going to elect a third bush in five presidents. that's what mitt romney thinks on both of those gentlemen. and you know what? his team's argument is pretty persuasive. am i doing mitt romney's bidding now? no, i'm not. i'm just saying what they think -- >> it's a fun game. >> also what the truth is. and you said something before about jeb bush like jesh says he's going to run the joy use campaign? i know jeb. >> really? >> how many days have you seen jeb you use past 8:00 a.m. in the morning. be honest. >> be honest. >> answer my question. >> i think -- i saw jeb bush pass the a-plus education reform plan and he was very joyful. he derives joy in politics on different things than other politicians. he enjoys policy fight and legislative fight. i don't know if those things will serve him well on the campaign trail. he govs governing. he loves answering his own
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e-mail from reporters. there are things that he loves that will make him refreshing to voters. >> to nicolle's earlier point, how does he look not cynical. he's floated this idea that he's a warrior for the economically oh prosed in this new incarnation. >> that's the challenge. >> how the you start over and have people and hope they forget. >> 47%. >> all those things many of them were not fair. >> how do you erase that? >> how do you erase that impression and get a clean slate and say i'm the guy that's going to fight for the little guy now? i don't know. that's a hard thing to do. >> joe you're saying against hillary clinton you don't have to. is that what you're saying? >> hillary clinton has just as many billionaire friends and has led over the past 25 years the most elite, the most insular, the most gasby-like existence than any person in the political world today. her friends are at davos, her
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friends are at goldman sachs. i mean hillary clinton, when she said we're not really that rich, do you know why she said that? because everybody she hanks out with are billionaires. i don't knock her. if you're president of the united states, if you're first lady, if you're secretary of state, guess what? you don't hang out where willie and i hang out. like, you don't -- you know you -- >> i'm give you data point there. >> i'm telling you -- >> insular remoteness with her. >> she's at the top of all the democratic polls. >> that's fine. >> i'll give you democrats, the smartest democrats around hillary clinton are terrified of running against jeb and they look forward to running against mitt romney. they may be wrong, but that's their perspective. >> maybe so. all right. we do have to get to this mess of winter storm. >> the great blizzard of 2015? >> it could be. it's set to pound the northeast with estimated 29 million people living in the blizzard's path.
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weather experts are saying this may be the one for the ages. snowfall totals could hit historic levels while potentially shutting don new york city. people in the sorm zone are preparing to be stuck indoors for days. grocery stores were packed over the weekend. critical agencies from the national guard to the state police are also going over their preparations. this storm is also throwing off travel plans in a big way across the nation. according to the website flight aware, airlines have canceled more than 1800 flights for today alone. more than 1600 have already been canceled for tomorrow. for the very latest -- >> let's go to bill karins. how bad is it going to get? nd most importantly, when should people across the northeast get off the roads? >> some people are already saying they should just stay home today if you possibly can. i know for a lot of people it's not an option. a lot of schools are in session today. a lot of people will be doing early releases. i'm taking the 6:00 p.m. that's my line i'm tellingal my friends
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and family get off the roads by 6:00 p.m. you know, worst of it will be probably like 10:00 p.m. but don't risk it in case it arrives earlier. you don't want to get stuck on the highways. you don't want to be for 24 hours one of those people having national guard members bring you hot coffee in your car. we've done that a couple of times in new eng glapd and we don't want to do that again. let's bring in dylan dryer, chasing this blizzard. she's starting her day in pittsburgh. take us through what you're going to be doing with this storm and how they did last night in the pittsburgh area. >> well, you know, here in pick we're picked up two inches of snow. not much, bill as you know this is part of that alberta clipper that moved through the midwest this weekend. this is also going to be the storm that will intensify out over the atlantic and turn into the blockbuster nor'easter we're expecting tonight and throughout the day on tuesday. here though we just had lighter snow coming down. i bought the yard stick realize that i have to fly now with the yard stick to boston but here we
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picked up two inches of snow and we're looking at closer to about a foot to two feet even know drifts well above this yard stick as we get into the heart of the storm with wind gusts possibly up near 70 miles per hour. looking at coastal flooding to be an issue. naturally the airline canceled a lot of flights. our plan today is to get on a noon flight from pittsburgh to boston. hopefully it's not canceled. it is on time as of right now but they are really trying to get ahead of this storm and also just the preparations in the boston area 300,000 tons of salt and 4,000 plows and spreaders ready to go. in new york city 2400 workers are on standby to break up those 12-hour shifts through the height of the storm. we'll see how this all plays out. certainly doesn't look like much right now but, boy, is that going to dang changechange, bill. >> i don't want people to panic. you're starting to see snow. this is the one or two inches you're going to get during the day and then a lot more tonight. 29 million people in the blizzard warnings. this is my snowfall forecast for a lot of the big cities.
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we're looking at 18 to 22 for new york city, boston portland. i still think the providence area should be close to the jackpot of worcester. that's what i'm predicting 22 to 26 inches of snow. once again, people be prepared to be in your house for 48 to 60 hours. that's how long you could be in your house without power before you can dig yourself out and get on the roads. >> all right. thank you, bill. willie? >> we'll keep an close eye eye on that. weekend for the race of 2016 began in earnest. controversial congress mar steve king's freedom summit whouth brought a who's who of con tepders. mitt romney and jeb bush stayed away from the king event but the candidates who did come tried to leave an early mark on a race that favors those who come early and often. msnbc political correspondent casey hunt was there in high oh iowa for the event. >> wow. >> reporter: when steve king called, the cattle came running.
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>> do you believe that the next president of the united states is going to be speaking from this stage to you today? >> reporter: almost a dozen potential presidential candidates all desperate to get ahead in iowa. >> let the pandering begin. i've been to iowa 11 times in the last five years. >> hey iowa can anyone stop hillary? >> reporter: who stood out? the new faces. >> in a republican primary every candidate is going to come in front of you and say, i'm the most conservative guy to ever live. gosh darn it who did lead on conservative? well, you know what talk is cheap. >> reporter: ted cruz brought the house down. ben carson was a favorite. and karly fiorina went on offense. >> like hillary clinton, i too, have traveled hundreds of thousands of miles around the globe. but unlike her i've actually accomplished something. >> reporter: the surprise standout was wisconsin governor scott walker. >> i think people are liking the direction they're headed. maybe that's why i've won the
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race for governor three times in the last four years. >> reporter: right now mitt romney and jeb bush are looming over the republican field. but they didn't show up on saturday and nobody seemed to miss them. >> it looks like you might be running against mitt romney again in iowa? >> groundhog day right? >> i can give you a little bit of news about mitt. most of you know me he and jeb had a private meeting in utah it was so private it was on the front page of the "new york times." >> mitt romney? >> a loser me lost. he should have won. he should have won. he choked. >> jeb bush. >> the last thing we need is another bush. >> reporter: chris christie was left as the only establishment candidate to brave king summit. >> if i was too blunt, too correct, too loud and too new jersey for iowa then why do you people keep inviting me back? >> reporter: the new jersey governor made clear he isn't doing to give up on iowa even in the face of stiff competition. history shows long shots can win in iowa if they're willing to put in the work. >> my advice is you skip iowa
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at your own peril. >> america is looking for a new path forward and starting today, right here in iowa, let's give it to them! >> sarah palin also among the speakers congressman king's former summit. she says she is seriously interested in a t p presidential run delivered a rambling address according to people in the room that even some republicans are criticizing as a bit incoherent. here's a part of it. >> it must change. things must change for this cover -- our government. look at it. it isn't too big to fail. it's too big to succeed. it's too big to succeed so we can afford no retreads or nothing will change, with the same people and same policies that got us into this status quo? another latin word, status quo. and it stands for, man, the middle class, everyday americans
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are really getting taken for a ride. that status quo. and gop leaders, by the way, you know, the man can only ride ya when your back is bent. so strengthen it. then the man can't ride ya and america can't be taken for a ride because so much is at stake and we can't afford politicians playing games like nothing more is at stake than oh, maybe the next standing of theirs in the next election. >> byron york writes about -- >> you know nicolle is responsible for picking her as vice president. >> do you want to set the record straight? >> nicolle was the one that brought her to america. >> sore subject. did not. >> what about byron york writing about the republican's palin problems. conservative activists who called palin's speech long and disjointed, weird and terrible. adding, it didn't milwaukee any sense. york also quotes craig robinson
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who writes in part i'm not comfortable sharing everything that i heard about this speech. it was that bad. no offense to governor palin but i do think it is problematic to have someone give a speech like that in the midst of a string of serious speeches by people who are seriously thinking about running for president. >> you said it was so interesting about byron york, conservative's conservative. in 2008 he was one of her biggest advocates. in fact, called you and the mccain campaign often, very upset at how you were handling sarah palin. >> yeah. he was -- he's a brilliant mind. he's one of the best you know conservatives writing about conservatives. and was one of the most deeply offended by what he viewed as the mccain campaign's handling of sarah palin. i'm not defending our handling of her, but i think that time has shown that this is who she is. this is what she has to say. this is how she likes to say it. i think this is the reality of our modern political consumption is that people require
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politicians that have thought through what they want to say. >> mark halperin you were out there. was anybody excited about sarah palin as possible potential presidential candidate? >> she said over the weekend she was thinking of -- considering running. >> that's why i am asking. >> no they like her as a star and entertainment. as i said earlier they want someone in the arena. her quitting as alaska governor is the opposite of what people want. >> something is changing. >> people want a fighter. >> i watched the speech and cuts to the audience and people looked really uncomfortable. >> a little bit of curiosity. >> waiting for her to make sense. waiting and waiting and it never happened. >> mark, let's tick off a list of some of the candidates who went out there. scott walker obviously a winner there. a lot of people saying great things. chris christie, how did he do? >> he did fine. he -- his argument is this is a tough audience for him, social conservative audience. >> it is. chris christie, though i was channeling what mitt romney would have said about chris christie, i think he faired
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pretty darn well there. and i have a lot of respect for him for going there. >> don't underestimate the close relationship he has with terry, the governor there. he's getting a lot of his network. he won't endorse him because he likes to stay neutral. christie is going to try iowa. that's more than you can say about jeb bush or about mitt romney. and the establishment vote there, the social conservatives are getting the attention. >> let's keep going down the list. how did tez cruz do? >> great. he has a feel for that audience and he did great. people expect that of him but he has a very strong iowa plan. >> how about -- how did mike huckabee do? >> he was the last speaker. after ten hours of speeches. people were kind of tired me did not -- there was no magic in the room for either huckabee or santorum. >> it went flat for santorum as well? >> rick perry as well. there were hucklers during his speech? >> why? >> bad luck for him.
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immigration reform. i don't know why they chose him since his record on immigration on some issues is more to their liking than some. >> carson? >> very soft-spoken and quiet. he is a force in iowa right now. again, static today, over time i think when people come after him, see how he handles it. i asked him about that he says he's ready to be attacked but people in iowa love him. his name comes up all the time. >> what is it about him, why? >> i asked him that and i asked even i talked to that. they like the fact he's not a politician. >> still ahead. >> no my brother e-mailed me this weekend. he loves -- absolutely loves ben carson. >> yeah. >> and was asking me what i thought about him. i said, well, you know i like him, too. you do have to realize guys like this always get people excited and you do have to realize, george, that his claim to fame was saying bad things about barack obama when he was three feet away from barack obama.
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and that usually never works. you usually get in a campaign and it blows up. >> still lacks specifics but he can work a room in a really effective way. >> he's also compared america to nazi germany a couple of times. i personally wouldn't put that in my talking points. to each their own. still ahead on mnl"morning joe," what's really going on in the suburbs of paris? charles cook traveled to the neighborhood where up with of the "charlie hebdo" terrorists lived and he reports on the so-call no-go zone controversy. he joins us ahead. plus president obama's attends india's parade. chris jansing joins us live from new delhi next with what that message is. stay with us.
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you say you're considering running for president again. what's your favorite county in iowa. >> well, my favorite county in iowa and i'm not going to get into this because this is not a history class but one of my favorite places is iowa itself.
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>> 99 counties in iowa. >> i can name more than one. >> such as? >> i'm not doing history like who is the president of -- who is the president of a certain country. we don't do that. >> he doesn't play jeopardy. trump doesn't do jeopardy. we don't do jeopardy. let me ask you inside the hall how did donald trump do? >> well. he's convinced some people he's more serious about running this time than he has been in the past. i talked to him about it at some length me says his business dealings and kids are in a position now where he could. >> do you think he's serious? >> maybe. i will tell you, what people liked about his speech was he went after jeb bush he went after romney. people like -- this is why they like ben carson. people in the party like to hear straight talk. they like to hear people speak what's on their mind. >> the crowd reaction was very -- >> very good. at these events he always gets amongst the best reaction. >> trump was in south carolina last week on like a monday or
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tuesday. they usually draw like 100 people. he packed them in. >> he's not even doing it. as that clip illustrated he's not doing that well. he could be doing better if he had a more honed economic message. he's still tough. he still has problems on specifics. not just on questions like iowa counties but on policy questions. i talked to him a fair about same-sex marriage and abortion. he still has trouble with those things but he is popular and people like him. >> people like him. >> he's in the arena. >> mega star. >> big star and he still has a capacity to say things that people like. >> it will be interesting if he decides to run. we've calling him the abraham lincoln of some time for our day. >> i don't think he's going to run or be president. but isn't it kind of fun despite some of the things he said which we don't agree with to have him in the process? somebody who is completely unbound by politics it's nice to hear that in a political debate. >> that's why people like him, he's unbound by the political rules. just hours ago president
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obama became the first american leader to be honored as chief guest at india's annual republic day parade. joining us from new delhi nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing. chris? >> yes good morning. >> tell us about the day with the president and what was the message he was hoping to send. >> well, first of all, spectacular parade even though it poured rain. it was another chance for the president to have some nice moments all caught op camera with prime minister modi. i think there are were a couple of things you can't help but notice besides the floats and all of the military units, one from each of the states here in india. but this is part of obviously the president's and the administration's shift to asia. this is the part of the world where they are the fastest growing economies, the largest populations. but obviously significantly those two titles right now belong to china.
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india expected to surpass them in both areas very soon. and obviously like the united states, the two largest democracies in the world. so that's part of it. they've, as you probably know announced a couple of deals on nuclear energy on climate change. and right now, as a matter of fact, some american ceos are meeting with both the president and prime minister modi trying to find ways to do more investment, the heads of honeywell and walt disney and marriott. so a lot going on here. obviously a message of economic opportunity. mika? >> chris jansing in new delhi, thank you very much. coming up the battle for france, from within its own borders? plus, after years of economic uncertainty, greek citizens gave up on austerity. congressman, charles cook and jeffrey sacks next on "morning joe."
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♪ all right. >> you love them as one of the 1960s greatest singing trio now they're hear to talk policy. republican congressman from illinois committee, representative adam kensinger. >> say it again. >> i said congress was functional until you left and then we just started fighting and spending money. >> what? on the record. >> i know. it's crazy. >> when i left they had $155 billion surplus and i took it all with me. institute columbia university and writer for the "national view" charles c.w. cook. charles shares his observations about what's going on in the suburbs of paris. first, a lot of news coming out
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of europe. jeffrey jeffrey, let's start with you. i said last week it appears the sick man of europe now is europe. how bad is the situation? >> interesting, "wall street journal" headlined double blow to germany's leadership. two things happened this past week of interest. one was that the european central bank finally said enough of the conservative monetary policies that germany has been pushing. we're going to expand. to basically do what the fed has done in the last three years which helped get u.s. recovery going. i think that's good news. then yesterday a big blowout election in greece if left one very strong on a platform of saying we're tired of repaying this massive debt. we can't do it. we need new terms. and this is setting up a potentially complication. >> causing it to clamp so much all of mika's holdings in the south of france. >> that's it. >> the american dollar is going to spend a lot. >> it's really -- the joke is getting old. >> let me say though, we're at
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the beginning of the year for predictions. i think actually europe is on its way back. >> do you really? >> i think the european central bank has done right thing. i believe -- now, this is the big gamble with this new greek government, i think germany may be forced to confront realities of a different approach to management, if they do if they give greece a way out, suddenly the situation is going to look a little bit better. we have a recovery in the united states going. >> yeah. >> and europe could do the same. >> wow. >> it will be interesting. i think the big question on this is if germany and if the eu kind of gives greece an opportunity to stay in and gives them a new way out, what's it going to do to other countries in that situation? >> are they going to be willing to do that? >> i don't know. that will be the interesting part. jeffrey is a bigger expert on that than i am. with they do, again, with greece, you're going to find other countries demanding the same thing and you might see the same eternal political change.
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>> spain, portugal. >> basically compromising is the way to avoid political upheaval because it will go this way in the frustrating places. it's great depression level. they need a different approach. and what i have written about in recent days is that germany got relief after world war ii not that they, quote deserved it but they needed it. they needed a fresh start. it's time for germany to look to greece, okay whether you deserve it or not, you need it. >> chronically unemployed. you get, you know gangs and problems that arise from social issues frustration. >> from economic chaos to -- you came back from the paris suburbs warks did you find? >> it's much more complicated than it's been presented as being. the suburbs, no-go areas, are diverse. some are rich some are poor some are middle class. the most harrowing thing i saw was the way jews seem to be treated in middle class areas.
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in a place call sarsal the police were there. we went to a synagogue. six soldiers outside. three on the door. three milling around inside and another ten camping out upstairs. they're being relieved every two hours by another set of soldiers. when i say soldiers automatic weapons, bullet proof vests, full combat fatigues. >> synagogues in paris are on lockdown? >> they are after "charlie hebdo." it's not necessarily how it always is. i spoke to the rabbi and he was saying to me it's normal for jews to be targeted in this area, on the subway, if you're in more orthodox dress you will be beaten up. the soldiers are there to defend the two synagogues, they're there to defend the schools the private schools. it's not always as if the police have backed off. there are problems for them to deal with. >> and the french mika the french government understands there can't be another attack in france. >> that is correct.
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>> especially against jewish targets. >> you also looked into this issue of the no go zones. what did you find? >> well, it depends what you mean by no go zone i think. there are not areas that the state has completely lost control of that are being run by shadow government under sharia. what there are is majority muslim areas extremely poor that look and feel like an american ghe the,tto and the broken windows policing they don't go in on minor infractions. they don't want to start a fight. they go go in but they are not going to be arresting people on a street to wear it which in france is illegal. >> this no go zone controversy, fox said there were and then apologized. cnn also said there were. i don't think they've apologized yet for saying it repeatedly. >> i think what we have to remember is one more thing, which is that there's massive war under way all through the middle east and this is a lot of blowback. and until we solve those
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problems, there's so much violence, these young terrorists that committed this heinous crime had been in these training camps in yemen. we have stoked war ourselves. we know in syria 200,000 people dead. and now fortunately the u.s. government seems to be saying maybe we've got the wrong policy. maybe this endless conflict approach is not working. >> what's the right policy? >> the right policy i would say is not to have tried to overthrow a regime and -- >> what's the right policy now? >> the right policy is for us to put into responsibility the local countries, turkey saudi arabia, and others and say, clean this up rather than us being in the middle of that. france being in the middle of that, then there's blowback. >> america plays a unique role. it's us for it's nobody. you can't have turkey lead an entire coalition. i think bizarre al-assad has to
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be over thrown. his brutality to the people of syria are leading to them this up looefl and in some cases joining isis because success begets recruitment. you see isis and you say, holy cow, they're successful i'm going to join them. at the end of the day it's going to have to be the policy we undertake. >> i hear that and you disagree jeffrey. i hear that from so many other countries, too, that are focused on assad leaving. jeffrey, stay with us because we have to go to bakereak. >> okay. >> thank you very much. >> thank you. great piece. ahead, in a very packed 8:30 half hour did the screen actors guild awards provide any hints for who will take home the oscars next month? plus, last night was way too late for thomas roberts as he hosted the miss universe pageant. the best moments. and up next we have live reports from the weather channel's jim cantore and jim
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all right. turning back to that historic storm bearing down on the northeast, what mika is having a heated debate -- >> yes, we'll tell you about it later. figure it out. >> the weather channel's jim cantore is live in boston. jim, let's start with you. what is concerning emergency workers right now in preparing for this storm? >> the biggest thing for mercy workers is that people are off the roads because if we are at the height of this thing, which we will be tomorrow and we'll be talking about, of course measuring it in feet so we're expecting 24 to 36 inches here in the boston area west through worcester county and probably on the cape is that these emergency
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officials will not be able to get to people on the roads. all right? i just talked to mayor marty walsh. he stopped by our live shot and saying he would not be surprised, not official yet and we have a governor in place, but he would not be surprised to see boston and some of the major thoroughfares here completely shut down. and that's what really saved them guys during nemo. the crews were allowed to get out and clear the roads and get everything back up in line. another thing, too. we're expecting 60 mooil-mile-per-hour winds, possibly 70 in the cape. extensive power outages here. >> let's bring in nbc's tom costello at reagan national airport. tom, the impact on travel is already terrible. it's going to get much worse, isn't it? >> yeah. we got 2,000 flights canceled for today already. that's for the most part in the northeast and for the most part later this afternoon and into the etching. let's talk about the most effected airports for the next 48 hours. it's going to start here in
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washington with both airports and then baltimore, then you've got philly. move your way up the coast. all three new york city airports laguardia probably most effected with flights. hartford connecticut, going to be effected. boston up to maine. go to the west residual affect in pittsburgh columbus ohio chicago. the next 489 hour hours are going to be rough with hard hit new york city and to the knot ofnorth of that. le amtrak is on watch. they've got 720,000 people who take amtrak in the northwest corridor every single day. amtrak is talking about watching the 457 miles of track, 1200 bridges. it's entirely possible we could see cancelations along amtrak's northeast corridor. guys, back to you. >> thank you, tom. really quickly, jeffrey, the last debate we were having. you obviously disagreed with the congressman who said we still have to get assad out. the president said assad must go. and push to policy to get rid of
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assad. you said it spread chaos. you hear other leaders across the world saying that they're not going to help was isis because they're more focussed on getting rid of assad. you said we need to just let assad stay where he is. >> the fact of the matter is policy has failed. all it's done is destroyed syria, led to more terrorism, more blowback. and the u.s. government quietly is moving away from its overthrows a sad position. so the failure is now recognized at the top levels. we said saddam has to go. well 500,000 iraqis died in the process. we have chaos in iraq. we said assad has to go. 200,000 syrians have died. there's chaos in syria. there's chaos all over the place and then when you have terrorism at home that's blowback from young kids who are going to these terrorist camps, training camps from war zones and bringing the war back to us. we have to stop the wars not think that this is somehow a separate world. and that's our big mistake.
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a machine that turns sewage into drinkable water. one of the many projects bill gates is currently working on to improve the lives of those in need. we touched on that subject and much more when we spoke to bill and melinda gates. here with us now co-founder of the bill and melinda gates foundation, bill and melinda gates, here to discuss the 2015
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gates annual letter details the foundation's big bet for the next 15 years, and, bill i just want to start out by telling you we're going to make joe drink the water that you drink. >> it's great. >> that we just -- good. it's good. right? >> yeah. you can drink it too. >> i will. i'm fine with it. i totally -- i think it's incredible but, joe was having a cow. so we're going to bring is machine in and process some -- crap, and go from there. it will be interesting, and you are the inspiration for that sir. thank you very much. now to melinda. tell us about the big bet. >> we're betting this year in our annual letter that the lives of the poor will improve next in the next 15 years than ever in the history of the world, because of the improvements we're seeing going on in africa and other places in southeast asia asia. >> fantastic. some of the specific goals in terms of various breakthroughs,
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medical breakthroughs, cures? what are the focuses of in terms of what you want to attack and make a big bet on? >> we talk first about health a precursor to the rest of life grow up healthy, go on to participate in the economy. we've seen childhood deaths come down, cut in half in the last 25 years. we think those could be haftlved again, with vaccines killers mike malaria and diarrhea. those alone will stem the death rate. >> sam stein has a question. >> the federally funded scientific research in the wake of the ebola crisis in africa is big debate whether or not philanthropies and foundations like your own could step in and fill the void happening in the void of scientific research? do you think there is enough
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private money out there to cover some of these budget shortfalls we're witnessing. >> the u.s. government is by far the most generous in medical research. over half of the budget research for the entire world is the nih budget. there's been huge benefits for having that budget go up. it's disappointing it's kept flat and the question is do we push that up? from our point of view it's very, very important. the work we do builds on that basic research and the u.s. government is our partner in aids relerch, malaria research, all the key areas we work in. no way philanthropic money can take that place. we want it to stay strong. >> looking at the breakthroughs. banking breakthrough and bringing mobile banking to the poor, and how they can radically transform their lives. explain that if you could? >> that's taking off in all
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kinds of countries. kenya, tanzania philippines, bangladesh. you're seeing basically on a smartphone not the old plastic phones we used to use, people in rural areas can save tiny amounts of money. they don't want to take a bus, out on a farm, save $1 or $2 a day, when there's a health emergency in the family an episode of malaria or a hunger season they can tide over those times and tell you, i then have the money to put my children in school when the school fees come up in the fall. just like financial services are so important to us to be able to save money and participate in the economy, it's fundamental there in terms of transforming their lives. >> i love it. jeremy peters? >> right now in american politics addressing poverty is a subject of bipartisan concern. mr. gates, i've seen you in the capitol recently what looked to be high-profile meetings with
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lawmakers. i wonder what needs to be done to make sure we can reach a bipartisan solution on poverty legislation, and what you might be doing to help broker that? >> well, i think the biggest area that we're falling short of our ideals equal opportunity, is in the education system. inner city schools do not engage the students the dropout levels are very high. even a lot of kids that graduate aren't prepared so that they can succeed in college. so it's the quality of education, taking the best ideas from charter schools, giving teachers feedback so they can improve. i think if you only had one wish to drive that and reduce poverty it would be bring in the u.s. education system up to the quality that some of the other countries have managed to achieve in the last decade. >> bill and melinda gates, a great team. thank you so much. we appreciate your being on the show today. >> thank you. >> thank you. we'll be right back with much more "morning joe."
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and here we go. a live look at times square which could look pretty different tomorrow afternoon. amative storm is set to pound the northeast with an estimated 29 million people living in the blizzard's path. we'll cover it all morning. weather experts saying this may be one for the ages as snowfall
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totals could reach historic levels while potentially shutting down new york city. people are prepared to stuck indoors for days. grocery stores finding empty shelves and critical agencies from the national guard, the state police also going over preparations. >> we usually prepare worst case scenario anyway. that being said we literally just got off the phone call with the national weather service, and they're talking about, throwing words around like historical, monstrous. from that perspective, yeah. we are preparing for the worst. >> the storm is also throwing off travel plans across the nation. according to the website flightware, airlines cancelled more than 1,800 flights today, and more than 1,600 have already been cancelled for tomorrow. today, planning to operate on a normal schedule but will re-evaluate as needed. local officials are warning residents to stay inside if possible.
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right to bill karins who's been following this storm's path. bill? >> good morning, mika. we have about 12 hours left to get done with the preparations for these 29 million people in these blizzard warnings. that means gas tanks full. that means extra water in your house. that means making sure you have all batteries andflashlights. look at a possibility from going from possibly 48 to 60 hours in these areas with no power, very cold hout with your family snowed in no one able to get to you. that is what you have to prepare for. worst case scenario. hopefully better for everyone but we doubt it. the blizzard warnings have not changed since we were went to bed. through boston providence hartford, new haven down to new york city and the jersey shore nap is this region. the area that needs to be off the roads by at the latest 8:00 p.m. tonight. maybe 6:00 p.m. and stuck in your location, likely until probably you can dig yourself
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out sometime during the day on wednesday. they'll probably tell you to stay off the main roads until thursday in that region. my snowfall forecast. i haven't updated these too much. pretty much consistent. if there's one area that's the hardest forecast it's the hudson valley from albany new york straight down through new york city down through jersey and philadelphia. the back edge of the storm. questionable how much moisture will get thrown back. the troublesome spot. we know for sure providence portland, hartford, those look set in stone, much of new england. the two feet possible of snow maybe ice lited edsolated up to three feet. it's a huge storm for new york city. the record storm for new york city is 27 inches. we're even in that ballpark for top ten possible snowstorm, in new york's 150 year history of record-keeping. also keep in mind the last couple of big storms haven't been too difficult to get out and shovel.
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a very cold air mass settled over quebec it will tug and pull the cold air down why this storm is almost all snow. when we talk about the windchill valleys, peak of the storm, 7:00 a.m. rchld a.m., and lower tuesday night into wednesday morning. mika, most people will shovel come wednesday morning. the easier windchill value, single digits down to d.c., back up through new england. it's not going to be fun trying to dig out from this storm, and not having power could make this even worse. again, 12 hours to prepare. >> okay, bill. we will be checking in with you all morning long. thank you very much. >> whew! >> so this was the weekend when the race for 2016 began in earnest. so many things going on. >> a big weekend. part one. >> well, part one. okay. just out this morning, the "wall street journal" reports new jersey governor chris christie is starting a presidential pac called leaders for america. and marco rubio, rand paul and
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ted cruz held a forum hosted by the koch brothers sbrother. controversial congressman steve king's freedom summit brought a who's who of 2016 contenders. immigration was front and center and protesters pulled from the audience. people who were opposed to some of the language he's used in the past to describe undocumented workers. in stark contrast at a separate event, governor jeb bush said there needs to be a legalized path to citizenship and there was no way those already here would be deported. he and mitt romney stayed away from steve king's event but the candidates who came tried to leave an early mark in a race that favors those who come early and auv. >> before we get to that good idea or bad idea for jeb and mitt to stay away from iowa? >> well it is what it. right? i think if that was what jeb wanted to share, comprehensive reform. it's not 11 million. more like 17 million are not
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going to self-deport as mitt romney would have them do. they're going to stay here. so they either stay here and become legal -- >> here's a question about jeb. he's picking up a trait that john mccain had in 2007 going into 2008 and that is not only opposing what's important to conservatives but seeming to take great delight sticking a sharp stick in their eye saying hello. i'm jeb bush. i'm better than you. >> it's not that i'm better. >> why didn't he go to san francisco and talk about how much more enlightened you are than what's going on in iowa? >> you can called it enlightened or reality. jeb bush may cost him the republican nomination but doesn't make it untrue. >> you're missing my point. he doesn't have to do that. just like john mccain didn't have to go out of his way to antagonize them. >> by every journalist every day on the campaign trail, that's the reality. >> there's a good way and
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another way. >> would it have been better to spin the truth on immigration so he was better liked in iowa? >> no i just -- >> i applaud him for his courage, for his position and until we can win with that message, we will lose the white house. >> we can win with that message. the question again, mark halperin halperin, does he really need to go to san francisco and hold a speech talking about immigration, just to show how much more enlightened he is than those knuckle draggers in iowa? >> what i learned about jeb bush in iowa this weekend at that forum and talking to people in iowa, he's going to have to fight for this nomination a lot harder than his brother did and he had to fight hard, doing what he did this weekend shows, illustrates, the big evidence problem with his candidacy, and i think it's strong. the gap between whan elites think about him and how much interest there is for him in the grass roots. there's not a lot of interest about him in the grass roots and some hostility. he'll have to fight and can't skip iowa. >> hostility because he's not
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conservative enough or a bush? some combination of this? >> more because -- it's those things plus they just think he's yesterday. they want a new, fresh candidate. they want someone who's an energetic conservative involved in the current wars and his involvement in the current wars involving writing books about immigration and going to san francisco. they want a warrior like ted cruz or scott walker at the grass roots level. >> what i'm saying about jeb bush has nothing to do with policy. i certainly understand there are a lot of people that believe like he believes about immigration. a lot of them. it's not about that. it's the fact that i'm hearing among conservative leaders, hearing among conservative activists, they're concerned about the bush name. they're concerned about the past. he's the past. but they're also concerned that it's not just that he opposes us. there's sort of this attitude and they bring up mccain's name. only reason i'm bringing it up that cite john mccain, where he has to go out of his way to provoke us and seem like he's smarter than we are.
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>> some did go to iowa and msnbc's casey hunt. here's her report. >> wow. >> reporter: when steve king calmed, the cattle came running. >> do you believe that the next president of the united states is going to be speaking from this stage to you today? >> reporter: almost a dozen potential presidential candidates all desperate to get ahead in iowa. >> let the pandering begin. >> i've been to iowa 11 times in the last five years. >> hey iowa can anyone stop hillary hillary? >> reporter: who stood out? the new faces. >> say i'm the most conservative guy to ever live. gosh darn it who did lean on i'm conservative? talk is cheap. >> reporter: ted cruz brought the house down ben carson a favorite. and carly fiona.
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>> why hillary clinton i, too, traveled around the globe. unlike her i accomplished something. >> reporter: and standout scott walker. >> people like the direction they're headed. maybe that's why i've won the race for governor three times in the last four years. >> reporter: right now mitt romney and jeb bush are looming over the republican field but didn't show up on saturday and nobody seemed to miss them. >> looks like you might run against mitt romney again in iowa? >> ground haug day.hog day. >> he and jeb had a private meeting, so private it was on the front page of the "new york times." >> mitt romney? >> a loser. should have won. he choked. >> reporter: jeb bush. >> the last thing we need is another bush. >> reporter: chris christie the only left to brave the summit f. i was too blunt, too loud and too emergency for iowa then why do you people keep inviting me back? >> reporter: the new jersey govern every made clear he isn't
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going to give up on iowa, even in the face of stiff competition. history shows long shots can win in iowa. if they're willing to put in the work. >> my advice is you skip iowa it's your own peril. >> america is looking for a new path forward, and starting today, right here in iowa let's give it to 'em! >> reporter: and sarah palin was among the speakers at the freedom summit. the former governor is seriously interested in a presidential run, delivered a rambling address that eastern some republicans are criticizing as incoherent. sheer a portion. >> it must change. things must change for this cover -- our government. look at it. it isn't too big to fail. it's too big to succeed. it's too big to succeed, so we can afford no retreads or nothing will change with the
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same people the same policies that got us into this status quo. another latin word status quo, and it stands for, man, the middle class, everyday americans, are really getting taken for a ride. that's status quo, and gop leaders, byes way -- you know the man can only ride ya when your back is bent. so strengthen it. then the man can't ride ya and america won't be taken for a ride, because so much is at stake, and we can't afford politicians playing games like nothing more is at stake than oh maybe just the next standing of theirs in the next election. >> byron york writes about what he calls the gop's palin problem, quotes conservative activists who called the speech long and disjointed. weird, and terrible. adding, it didn't make any sense. york quotes craig robinson of the iowa republican blog writes in part i'm not comfortable
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sharing everything i heard about the speech. it was that bad. no offense to governor palin, but i do think it problematic to have someone give a speech like that in the middle of a string of serious speeches by people who are seriously thinking about running for president. >> casey heinz, byron york obviously not a member of the left wing media elite. he is a, one of the best conservative writers in america. he echoed what i heard nonstop yesterday, that it was a terrible speech, and that it was very painful for activists who once loved her to watch. >> yeah joe. i mean it was clear the audience really wanted to like what pail hadn't to say and there was a lot of cheering applause everything you've come to expect from a conservative crowd seeing governor palin, but as this wound on and on and and, you could sense a lot of people in the audience sort of getting more and more confused, kind of as the address went on and i would also say one of the other things that byron york also pointed out that i agree with
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from having been there is that the people who stood out at this summit were really the new faces in the republican party, and sarah palin is really now on that list of old faces. the people that stood out were ted cruz scott walker the people who struggled a little more were palin, we pointed out, and arkansas governor mike huckabee, a lot of goodwill but didn't bring too much fresh to the table. >> well put. >> and you were there. talk about the conservative's reaction to sarah palin's speech? >> confusion. it went really long, and she didn't -- she didn't seem to be in the arena. again, that's what a lot of these people want. not just in iowa but around the country. casey said they don't want older people commentators or speechmakers or book writers. they want people who are currently involved in fighting the conservative fight, and the fact that her speech was long and disjointed only added to the sense that she's the past. >> they want people in the arena? >> yeah. >> i mean, obviously, nicole i would think you'd have more in
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insight than anyone? >> interesting byron york came that that conclusion. i remember being on the -- one of the harshest handling her thought the problem was in the packaging of palin. to see him come full circle and this is who she. this sow me finally shed those handlers. >> you put sarah palin on bill like this because she's still a draw. >> people love her. >> a lot of emotional support, but by drawing all of those eyeballs to it you put the focus on a moment like that and have people talking about her speech instead of scott walker's and ted cruz' and chris christie's. >> it's a tragedy, because we all remember that night she spoke in 2008 at the consequence. i will say it remains one of the most electrifying performances i've seen in the last four or five conventions i've been to. nobody expected her to do well.
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she delivered the lines well, hit it out of the park, and you know, we will let history decide how she gets from that point to this point. still ahead on "morning joe" another big 8:30 half hour. "harper's biz" editor is back and dr. emmy senay. then from usa's hit show "suits" actor patrick adams joins us. going to be fun, and bill karins tracking the epic storm barreling down the northeast. he'll give us the blizzard's latest track ahead. stay with us. >> it's going to be fun. >> yes. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs.
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we are following this major storm. joining us from boston the weather channel's jim cantore. jim, how bad will new england be hit with this incoming blizzard? >> reporter: going to be a big deal guys. shut down really one of the busiest parts of the world as we work our way through tonight and probably all day tuesday. as a matter of fact, there will be interstates that will be closed. american and united always cancelled all flights in and out of boft's philly and new york for tomorrow. all right? that's big deal to have an airline shut things down like that. guys, this isn't one you just bring out the little ruler. there you go. up to three feet of snow expected. exactly. we brought out the yardstick for this one. that's the kind of snow we'll see here, like back in february of 2013 when we got 24.9 inches. all-time record for snow in boston, 27.6. when you start seeing storms like this on the models you say, maybe -- maybe we could get there, but it's not just boston.
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it's hartford, it's providence. it's new york, philly portland as well. if you look at the blizzard warning, they're pretty much from the jersey shore up to the state of connecticut and on into maine as well. this is going to shut down the northeast and it should. people do not, do not travel tomorrow. trust me on this. you will not be taken care of because emergency officials will not have a chance to get to you. back to you. >> about as clear as it gets. the weather channel's jim cantore. thanks so much. time now to look at morning papers. >> new york business journal. the price shake shack will get? first ipo, $14 to $16 a share, those figures put the popular burger chain's value at $568 million for shake shack. the company with 63 locations across the world expects to sell 5 million class a shares shake shack scheduled to begin trading on friday. 568 million bucks. shake shack. the "wall street journal" in-flight shopping catalog sky mall filed for brunlts.
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i like -- well a good song. anyhow welcome back to "morning joe." joining me executive eder of it "harper's bazaar" magazine. laura brown is back. >> that's me. >> and medical correspondent for pbs dr. emily senay. good to you have both with us. >> good morning. >> good morning. >> mommy's little helper. serious concerns about women using painkillers. according to federal health authorities nearly one-third of reproductive age women have an opioid painkiller prescription filled every-year from 2008 to 2012 dr. senay do women in america have a drug problem? >> we do know that these opiate prescriptions have been overused and misused in many parts of the country. i don't know if women
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specifically have a problem. what they're concerned about here, i think -- we know that it's a problem in all age groups. we know these have been over prescribed and prescribed inappropriately in many cases. they're concerned about women are child-bearing age. while the study didn't look specifically at birth defects, there is a an increased risk with these prescription painkillers. >> why are they doing it? getting addicted? >> not talking about addiction here. talking specifically about prescriptions in an age group where women are of child-bearing age and could in the very earliest stages of pregnancy be exposed and this could possibly lead to birth defects. what they really looked at was the number of prescriptions in medicaid women and what's different about this and the new information is they also looked at it in women of who had private health insurance. >> right. >> uh-huh. >> and found about 30% of women in the medicaid group and i believe 20% or so in the private insurance group were receiving these. so it's -- it's something that physicians need to think about
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more carefully. >> but -- >> you shouldn't casually prescribe anything let alone somebody -- >> i'm just going to say. cut to the chase here. it's a drug problem and a lot of women, i think, are kind of -- i'll speak for myself. emily you have known me 20 years. worked overnights for 20 years. i take sleep meds and can't sleep without them. that's a drug problem. right? >> yir. that would be a drug problem. >> you need intervention. >> now that i've come out with that seems to me we're looking at numbers, concerned about the women of preproductive age but also concerned in overall use of drugs -- >> or reliance on anything. i can't sleep, do the same thing. i can only imagine what you do when you try to get off when you do. >> it's bad. >> and it's a strange, casualness i think what's really here. i just went to the doctor just got this stuff and just refilled it for the next whatever i gave my prescription to a friend of mine, whatever it is it's such a given.
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so scary. >> are you worried about that emily? >> i am worried about it. i think it probably speaks to a larger problem that we have in our lives today. and this is just one more part of that. >> the pill is right there, for anybody. >> it's right there, and -- >> for any pain. any feeling. >> yeah. >> any feeling. >> oh yes. >> or no feelings at all. >> and our kids can get them too. it's a bigger issue. we're going to talk about sleep medicine next time because i think that's a big one. >> it is a big one. >> more than we know. >> it is a big one. >> and i think ambien is so no good. that's a whole story in itself. >> and a conversation, people in my business. which do you take? when you're flying? >> no more ambien. i promise. i've got stories. the oscar nominations drew criticism for lack of diversity but last night the s.a.g. awards appeared not to have a similar problem "orange is the new black," diverse cast made up of mostly women and viola davis won best actress in a drama
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series for how to get away with murder giving what was perhaps the most memorable acceptance speech of the evening. take a look. >> when i -- tell my daughter stories at night, inevitably, a few things happen. she always says mommy, can you put me in the story? and you know what starts from the top up -- so i'd like to thank pauly, chanda rimes, bill dalee for thinking that a sexualized messy mysterious woman could be a 49-year-old dark skin african-american woman who looks like me. >> nice. louis has a report coming um. >> she made that sound granchts she's amazing. >> such an amazing series. thanks again to chandra rimes
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giving these serious, amazing, dynamic women and so compelling i could watch her do a speech all day and i'm great friends with uzo,s from "orange is the new black" she plays crazy eyes. >> i love her. she's amazing w. e celebrated her in an issue last november. i love about her, a performance that could go into -- in one second, but so artful about it. >> incredible actress. >> so generous and the best girl killing on the red carpet. hmm. >> i want to meet her. >> come on now. >> make it happen. >> miss colombia two more topics. emily i know is a pageant person. i can tell. she lives for miss -- so the new miss universe crowned last night and our own thomas roberts and nbc's natalie more ragales announced miss colombia. and part of it include add
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contest for best national costume, each wore a costume inspired by her own country and that led to this moment between thomas and natalie. >> i still can't get over just how dramatic and extravagant those national costumes were that cooked off our show. where's thomas. thomas, what are you wearing? >> well aruba happened to have her dressing room right next to mine, so i thought i would take this and then add a little kind of canada hockey stick. have you seen canada's outfit? the what do you think? do i shake a tail feather? >> whoa. all right. he's shaking his tail feather. the firths are flying tonight. >> these are heavy. anyway -- >> you look good. it looks great. >> kind of gets in the way a little bit of standing so close to you. >> time to get your feathers plucked, thomas. >> that worked. that worked. thomas, i love you. that was fantastic. >> thomas is one step away from --
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>> joe in the control room. >> stock marketsthomas is good. have him with his feathers on on the show. i liked that. >> one step away from "victoria's secret." texting last night, sending backstage things he was literally beside himself. >> a showman. >> he s. i've told donald trump this personally i'm against pageants -- sort of. >> sort of? >> they're fun, i have to say. >> yeah. >> do you have -- help remind us where we've come from. >> and -- >> a history lesson. >> ironic a woman isn't wearing a physical scoreboard. >> yeah. >> because on so many levels that says so much i. wouldn't want my are daughter to do pageants. would you want -- >> no. >> and unfortunately miss universe eludes me. i have to move on. >> donald sent my daughter an entry to be in a pageant. >> he's wicked that donald. >> he's so bad, and she excited. what's going on way taylor swift's belly button?
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an internet frenzy? >> facing the nation. >> what? what's the problem? she posted this picture? >> went on vacation wore a bikini, a massive deal. previously she has said wait for it she was never going to reveal said belly putten and now she has. >> are people really talking about it? >> i heard this morning they were. i saw her in instagram. great friends with these girls. they're having a marvelous time and i think it is hawaii and, look, she looks great. show your belly bulletin taylor. >> i don't care about her belly button you but i think she's an amazing artartist. >> a great voice for young girls. great friends with lourde. >> we're not into the taylor swift thing. missed the boat. >> stay with us. still ahead, what's driving today's markets and behind the scenes of what makes sundance.
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visit angieslist.com today. it's okay. time now for business before the bell with cnbc's brian sullivan. see if i can get this right. brian? >> go ahead. >> oh. the markets. how are they responding to the big vote in greece? >> well association far not-- well, so far not a big reaction. watching the storm. whether or not we'll have trading tomorrow. probably will. obscure, talking about greece. the economy not big, but implication koss havecould have a ripple effect. the syriza party winning, forming a coalition with a far right party to try to get a consensus government in greece. the far left sort of banding together with the far right, because both of them though
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very different policies in a lot of other things oppose the austerity measures imposed by the european bailout. extremely interesting to watch the european economies, see if they can hold together this greece vote the greece exit from the eurozone, some saying that could happen. we're watching that. no update on trading at the nyse tomorrow and price of oil, like $1.75 gas in many parts of america and probably going to go even lower. >> there's a storm comin'. thank you, brian. cnbc's brian sullivan. thank you. >> stay safe. and it was a strong opening weekend of the 33rd annual sundance film festival with hollywood a list ers. and here is a look at this year's festival.
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♪ >> reporter: the sundance film festival in park city, utah is the reeminent showcase for indy films in america, shepherd by robert redford. over the past 30 years some of the most important films of our time have emerged from the sun and snow on to the national stage. sundance 20715 is no different. film critics are buzzing. >> what is it about this festival that's so special? >> well i think because the altitude is so high people watch movies and love everything. >> the vibe, the energy that feeling of empowerment just like exists here. >> it's really exciting. happy to be here. >> usually a pretty great lineup. this year is really good. >> sundance is incredible. when i first starting in my career, it's a place to let the world know where you're coming from. >> i think robert redford created something amazing.
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interesting filmmakers a. great mix of people and films and a lot of amazing work. well and redford. i mean come on. put him on the street? >> that's a good sighting actually. >> i hear he just walks up and down. >> up and down yeah. >> i haven't seen him yet. >> reporter: from "sex lies and videotape" and "little missunshine." >> what? >> reporter: to modern marvels like "whiplash" and "boyhood" a combined 13 oscar nominations. >> no two words in the english language more harmful than "good job." >> reporter: and "diary of a teenage girl" and "mississippi grind." >> you're in two films. >> both very important films for me to work on mainly because one in particular at this is very much about women. >> our film is not only what you learn about somebody but what is unknowable. what they won't let you in to
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see. >> i think it will surprise a lot of people but a story about human connection. what makes us who we are. what makes family? what makes love? what are the building blocks of our personality. >> reporter: to buzz worthy films, "end of tour" and "sleeping with other people pea ". >> what was it like sleeping with sudeikis? >> college students losing virginity to each other. fun and haphazard. >> not bad. not bad. >> i mean you know -- >> reporter: a pretty good first -- >> yeah. you know and she was losing it to me. so it's like -- just -- the blind leading the blind. >> reporter: it's a powerful documentary, kirk cobain and kevin polec be directorial debut "misery likes fun." >> this is kevin polec's first film he's directed. fantastic. a great acknowledgement that he did good work.
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>> reporter: terms of the premise and the thesis. >> do you have to be marchable to be funny? amazing opportunity to tell the story from every single perspective of that preface. >> "clerks," that's what they know me from. being here in sundance all of a sudden a cinderella back story of, he worked in that comedian story, made a movie, picked up by miramax, he's got a job. people like that kind of thing and that's what it can do for a filmmaker. a bunch of people come up these ten days go up a hill and come down a mountain something completely different. >> very nice. while emily senay is instagraming medical breakthroughs, laura brown instagramed somebody we just saw, have a slight obsession? >> these are the issues of the day. just had to go -- i'm sorry. just commend him on looking like that. that's all. that's all. >> really? >> hollywood reporter thank you and good night. one of the comments so good-looking of course he would hug his own head. >> did he take that picture of
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himself? i don't get it. >> no, no. in a studio. >> you instagramed it. >> very thoughtful and very swedish. >> good luck. one of the interesting points from the opening weekend, an unusually large showcase of female-driven films from writers and directors to imins about women. i think the year of the woman has come. >> yeah. just should be ever did thus. bag to the s.a.g. and "organize is the new -- "orange is the new black." the way it should be. up next from the his usa show "suits," actor patrick adams joins us next. keep it here on "morning joe." push your enterprise and you can move the world. ♪ ♪ but to get from the old way to the new you'll need the right it infrastructure. from a partner who knows how
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you heard me. i've seen this movie brrnlgs the reason it keeps rerunning, every time i think i'm done with you you and your ugly secrets rear your ugly heads. >> i am sick of saying this is my dirty little secret. you could have fired me when you found out and you didn't. no. you decided to keep me around because you were more concerned about beating daniel and kept me around because you didn't want to lose harvey and then use my secret to beat harvey and then again and again and again, so please jessica, why don't you
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tell me when the hell does this become your dirty little secret? >> really jessica? that was a scene from usa's hit series "suits" and here with us now the show's co-star patrick j. adams, and, well laura has moved on. after meeting -- >> firstly, i'm sick of your dirty little secrets and not having anymore, but i've moved on because i broke up with alex just in five minutes. so fickle and this one can also hug his own face. >> yeah. look at that. i'm a trained actor. >> a trained actor. >> on command. >> instagram. there he is. look at that it gravitas. you can tell you play a lawyer, just because of your gravitas right there. >> a lot of gravitas. >> ready for questions? >> yes. >> i take it your mom almost dreamed you would have a job where you wore a suit. is this what she was envisioning? >> no not exactly. want pd me to be a real lawyer and i play a fake lawyer on television but she's happy none
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the less. >> very proud? >> very proud. tell us about "suits," season -- >> in the middle of the fourth season. >> congratulations. >> "suits." >> do you get free suits? >> i steal free suits. >> well done. >> emily? >> i want to know about the photographic memory. >> his photographic memory? >> yes. tell us about that and how you fake a photographic memory? >> you just have to memorize your lines really really well. twice as well. he can remember anything in the show gives him a great super power. >> could you use that in life or terrifying? >> as an actor,? . i make it up as i go along. >> do friends ask you for legal advice? >> i wanted to defend mimes recently with a driving ticket. just to pay it'smaybe i'll just pay t. getting renewed one two, three, now four times? >> a fifth season too. >> what's the secret? it's hard. >> an incredible group of people on the show and everybody really gets along. i think that's the key to
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anything really working. >> who are the key characters you think stand out and are pulling people in besides yours? >> gabriel, jessica, you saw her. and louisusewis and harvey specter. incredible cast. >> emily mentioned the photographic memory, but you're actually a photographer? >> yes. i want to hear. i do photos for a living. i have a magazine. let's collaborate i. just had a calorie show of all of my behind-the-scenes shoots from "suits." >> could you do that. a great pete in "harper's." >> do you have your own camera? >> yes. all of these fans came out to support the show and it was great. people around the block and sold these prints for charity. can a charity called shut per bugper -- shutterbugs. >> incredible. >> it was grade.
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>> do you shoot offset as well? >> i have a camera right now in the green room. i always shoot. >> let's do pictures. >> photo shoot? >> we want to be stars. >> right here? okay. >> i'm going to go. instagram, the best form for photographers. >> do it. a lot of room. i'll just go to the break here. >> incredible forum for photographers. put yours on there. >> a legion of fans. >> what's your instagram? >> @halfadams. >> i just want to call you patch adams adams. >> you can do that, too. >> is that wrong? >> it's been done. >> before you look like you have actually -- it's not just a hobby. i don't know how you get the stars to allow the behind-the-scenes pictures? >> they let me get away with it on set and know i won't post anything too imflamer to. soon as the show is over i'll post -- >> those great pictures behind jeff bridges. amazing photographer as well and gives you another perspective. >> all right. "suits" returns to usa this wednesday, 10:00 p.m. 9:00 p.m.
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central. patrick adams, thanks very much. >> thank you so much. >> fascinating. up next, what? do you want to stay for this? what, if anything, did we learn today? i'm meteorologist bill karins. we're only hours away from the blizzard of 2015. this storm should produce feet of snow and wind gusts up to 70 miles per hour. the worst-hit areas coastal sebzs of new england, also down through long island. snowfall totals easily one to two feet through many of the big cities. possibly higher just outside of them. have a great day. like my homemade. it's our slow simmered vegetables and tender white meat chicken. apology accepted. i'm watching you soup people. make it progresso or make it yourself
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learned today. emily? >> i learned taylor swiftal belly button apparently was under cover until just this weekend. >> i'm sorry. >> i'm managing that. >> what you learned. >> it's made your career that knowledgeable. i learned it's so great to have more strings to your bow than just one and this is an actor, photographer, great. i want to see more pictures. >> thank you. i've learned alex probably eats less bread than i do and needs a lot of moisture. >> moisturizer. i like laura has the loyalty of a starving billy goat. one second in love with one dude. the next in love with another. >> this is america. i got to move. >> a nation of starving billy goats? >> yes, yes, and i love you all. >> very good. thank you so much for watching "morning joe." stick around because "the rundown" and a really really big snowstorm is straight ahead. >> have a great day.
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good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart and developing now on "the rundown," huge weather day. up and down the east coast, as we're seeing the very first flakes of what could end up being an historic blizzard, but before we get to that, i want to tell you about another developing story. this one out of the white house. overnight federal law enforcement officials say they found a drone on the white house grounds. these are pictures of security pictures scanning the area this morning and we want to go straight to nbc's kristen welker at the white house with the very latest. kristen? >> reporter: jose good morning. the very latest we know. according to a federal law enforcement official a drone landed in a tree in the white house grounds at 3:00 a.m. eastern time. the secret service responded to it and determined the drone didn't pose a threat. secret service searched the ground of the south lawn overnight. the president and first lady are, of course on a diplomatic
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