. >> all right, i'm here you can ask me all the questions you want me to. i will answer with the same answer. you all can shoot, please i'm

here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm just here so i won't get fined. hey, i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. you better make more with your time you only have three or four minute. i'm just here so i won't get fined. i'm just here so i won't get fined. >> oh my goodness you know we're going to phoenix, we will do a prime time special on the super bowl. >> if you want to interview him, he's going to say that? >> he's just going to say that? okay. i'm. >> i'm only here so i won't get fined. >> okay. >> it's in the contract. >> okay that's fair nick. halperin what do you have to say for yourself? >> i'm here so i won't get

fined. >> there is new news on this i'm studying up on both my teams so we can be prepared for our prime time special. it will be very very exciting. joe, willie is going to interview -- so this is going to be fun. we're going out to phoenix, but these teams and this super bowl seems unlike any other. am i wrong about that? >> oh, it's a ratings bonanza. >> it's a ratings bonanza, i get that. i'm not sure about that attitude. the deflate-gate with the whole football thing, it's really hard not to fall into an inappropriate pun with deflate-gate. dorian, do you understand? like nick this whole bathroom break thing, you fell into it yourself when you were talking before. >> what did i say? i'm always takes baums to the bathroom. >> i'm embarrassed, i'm turning my head here. >> there is nothing suspicious about getting a little work done in the wrathroom. >> were 12 balls taken into the bathroom, is that what we're

talking about? >> roughly. >> let me read the deflate-gate controversy surrounding the new england patriots may well have a suspect. yes, there is a suspect. nbc sports is confirming an earlier report the nfl is investigating a patriots locker room attendant and his possible connection to the under inflated balls used in the afc championship game. i swear to god. i swear to god. the report cites unnamed sources. they have to the been confirmed by nbc news but at this point we are feverishly going after it. the investigation is reportedly focused on a 90 second bathroom break. can you deflate by two pounds 12 balls in 90 seconds? >> that would be in the olympics. >> i do it all the time. >> okay. so the bathroom break taken by an attendant happened right before the game. one nfl source is reported as saying the reporter is seen on

under surveillance tape. oh good god, more tape carrying game balls after they were examined z. >> hesion a person of interest'ssion -- /* /* he's a person of interest. >> maybe so, maybe he wanted to help out. who knows? they're never going to get to the bottom of this. if you look at press day yesterday, it descended on phoenix for super bowl media day, tuesday, and there are a lot of questions about deflate gate. responses from the patriot itself. guess what they reveal. >> oh my god. >> you will love this. you no ewhat they revealed? >> what? >> absolutely nothing. >> we are just focused on seattle this week. that's it. it's all about seattle. it's all about us getting ready to play sunday. that's where all of our attention is. i'm not really worried about the rest of that. >> upon arrival in arizona on monday, patriot's owner

addressed the media with a prepared statement. he says if the nfl exonerates their team they deserve an apology. >> if the wells' investigation is fought definitively able to determine that our organization tampered with the air pressure in the footballs, i would expect and hope that the league would apologize to our entire team and, in particular coach belichick and tom brady. >> so you know what i love about this originally ah it's crazy, come on this is funny, deflate balls, ha? that was the first poke. ten that didn't work. right. >> right. >> so the next pose was, we didn't do it we didn't do it, we didn't do it. . we didn't do it. come on that is crazy, that was horrible that was pose number two. hold it up. you are such a 3rd grader. >> yeah.

>> that's just an objective headline. >> to objectify our friends at the daily news. >> i can't believe i didn't look. >> that's the second pose. first, like oh come on. >> right, right. >> oh, then no we didn't do it. now you know where they are now with kraft? by the way, you know they're at that scene in absence of malice where they go around the table and the da makes a pretty great case and paul newman does this prove it. we are at the paul newman "absence of malice" stage of the patriots' story where they say, "prove it. ". >> they have under surveillance tapes. they might have it proved. >> they can't connect this kid. come on this is a renegade kid going into -- >> it would be like closing down the george washington bridge without permission.

>> nobody does that. >> it's a race against the clock. >> it is super bowl sunday 6:00 p.m. versus tmz. because a leak investigation is not going to be done. >> it's a rocky employee. >> let's talk about politics. >> can you deflate footballs in a minute 30 seconds? >> i just did it before i came on. it happens all the time. all right. solet talk politics. a lot of stuff is going on in politics. >> yes, all over the map here in terms of presidential politics as mitt ronlny eyes a run for the presidency the "new york times" is reporting that media mogul rupert murdock appears to be impressed with jeb bush. the paper details a recent speech of bush's where murdock expressed his admiration to jalry jarrett, especially a section on the economic benefits of immigration reform. murdock often criticized romney and the former governor appears to be out of favor again should he seek to run again. >> so mitt romney could not ever

get a break with fox news? >> or the "wall street journal." >> or the editorial page. people are saying why does it matter at this stage that rupert murdock is fawning all over jeb bush going pro immigration saying immigration is good for our economy. why is this a few story? because the guy helped shape news cover annual for the republican primary more than else e anybody else. he and roger els, more than anybody else derls what millions and millions of primary voters see, how they see it how the stories are frame, what stories are covered and he hated romney. romney never got a break from fox news. and now he loves jeb and he loves the fact that jeb is pro immigration and, i mean it's this is big news for jeb. >> he did get some breaks from fox news. he did tons of interviews with fox news that were very good for

him in the nomination fight. rupert didn't have an alternative. he has not only jeb, there are two or three other, including chris christy. i think it's good for romney if he runs. he's liberated now. he doesn't have to spend time in his head how can i win over roger els, how can i win over rupert? it's a different path. not the fox path as strong as they are. >> whoever secures the nomination may have to run against a legacy. >> that the sort of liberation no republican candidate would want. having a guy on fox news and running the "wall street journal." >> but catering to fox last time got him if trouble. trying to win them over got them in trouble. >> catering, yes, i know what you are saying. >> you don't -- >> what's the next one? >> so whoever gets a nomination will have to run against a resurgent legacy of president obama. look at this the latest gallup poll has his approval rating at

50%. it is the first time since june 2013 he reached a term level approval of 38% in september. two months before democrats lost control of the senate. >> that's 50%. there are a lot of people around the white house that didn't think they'd see that again. >> they are riding high. we saw that in the state of the union last week if terms of the president's practice have a to do, let's say. i was going to use another football term. they are riding rye right now. they will ride it out as long as they can. >> nick we have been sitting around the table and said the president delivering the speech he delivered may not be good for the state of the union, may not be good for compromise may fought be good for getting things done if washington, d.c. but it was good politically. we said that in real time. good politically for barak obama. these numbers bear that out. >> that's right. he is entering the stage of the presidency, he can do what he

wants. he is in the facing any more elections or mid-terms. he is saying here's who i am. it's always powerful for your base, to hear from the president's party and him saying, i believe if these things. i will do them. damn you guys if you don't go along with me. >> so we've always talked about how the republicans compared to these diminishing poll number now resurgent poll numbers. how does this impact hillary clinton? she seems to be distanceing herself from president obama, she seems to want to drive a wedge between herself and the relationship of the administration. she left her position. you barely everything points to her distancing herself. does she now change her tune and we all fall for her? >> her advantage, right, is to be able to run with a lot of the advantages of an incumbent, without actually being an incumbent. right. so she wants to be unchallenged in the primary with a ton of money early, but not the saddle with whichever part of the gender are fought good for her. >> she has already started. i think it might have been in the "time's" she is distancing

herself from barak obama. the economic footballs go well. so she decides she's going to run with obama. >> she's going to pick and choose and act like clinton on the campaign trail. if it pays to throw them under the bus, they'll throw them under the bus. if it pays to hug them tail hug them. >> yesterday it was reported the coke brothers are pouring $800 million into the cycle. the coke's effort will put enormous fundraising pressure on democrats and liberal outside gruchls allies of hillary rodham clinton expect she will need to bring in more money than president obama, the most successful fundraiser in presidential history. it's no wonder the candidates show up when the coke brothers call say david axelrod, that's exponentially more money than any party will spend. in many ways they have superseded the party. >> nick talked about that. >> you know the scale here all

right, a billion dollars is just astonishing. it is so much money. for the guys that went for the president on the right, this donor gathering. >> right. >> there is no bigger single concentration of outside of the stablement money on the right. >> by the way, i am so glad you said that. that the key. at that time what surprised me. when i was out there just going around talking to people why are you here just doing basic reporting? these people don't love the republican party. in fact, they are there, mark halperin, because they don't trust the republican establishment in washington, d.c. a lot of them have just checked the box through the years, yes, i'm a republican. yes, i'm going to send to rnc or to this group or that group. or i will send to karl rove. i think karl rove's failure if 2012 talking to these people, it was the last straw. they were like we're not going to trust you anymore t. coke brothers i guess it was what two years ago basically said we're

going to run ground operations we're going to physical out how to do this because the republican party is a failure. what's fascinating about this is now the rnc and rightly deserve, they are doing a pretty great job. you got them. but they are being superseded by the code new yorker. it's only a matter of time before you see a democratic group do there. just because that's -- this is a part of the process, you can say citizens united. but the internet of fundraising outside of washington, d.c., it's just making this the wave of the future. >> people focus on the raising. there is very little doubt because of the people involved that they'll get to that number close to a billion. what matters is how you spend it. do you spend it well? you can blow through a billion dollars on consultants and weak ground game and have very little impact. what's intriguing about this it's scaring smart democrats is after the last cycle. they've proven as an outside

group, they request do ground. >>let talk about this. the percent annual of the candidates they picked and they followed and they put money on nationwide, not only in the federal level. on the state and local level, like now, of course there was a wave election. it was a wave here. they've done the best they can do if 2010 2012. maybe it will be 50-50. but they it's all very -- >> there are business people who do metrics. look at 2004 remember a bunch of liberals spent millions of dollars to try to get john kerry elected. they tried to do ground game failed. >> that's right. he did a better job. >> this is a group of people who understand you have to spend it not waste it on consultants, that's what democrats may not be able to match. fought just the money, how much raised but how efficiently it's spent. >> you look at charles coke the coke brothers split.

it's very interesting, they show david, i know david, but charles, charles is the driver of this. >> a true believeer. >> sort of in charge of the seminar you guys were at. david is involved in more of the politics of americans for prosperity, their pane grass roots. >> charles is what all my contributors early on called a true believeer. >> i think both feed approvals. >> yeah he's more libertarian than conservative. you start talking about social issues, you request just see a wall goes up. it is a real sort of conservative/leber taern approach and they don't trust republicans if washington. >> but they want a republican president. >> they do make no mistake, if they get a republican president that spends as much money as george wind chill bush spent, they will consider that as big a

failure as a democratic president. >> these events these seminars started in the bush years as a reaction to the bush -- >> angry -- angry at karl rove and george bush for medicare part d and the iraq war. >> that is one of the understandingings here and why we were glad to observe this. you are exactly right. this was born out of the establishing consultants class in washington, d.c. that sperngsd sperngsd spend, on the programs. >> i thought the different programs they had the conversations they had address some really interesting questions the kind of questions we address here at the table. a surprise to me and i had liz coke have you ever met her? she's a ball of fire. she's got this incredible program for helping the poorest of the poor kids in several inner cities that she is

development. it's everything you don't think and you don't know. so there are different facets of the story you get to see when you go and observe event like this. it's an interesting approach. >> it's the first time they opened to the press. >> exactly. >> they were not conservative columnists and so on. >> which by the way i think it was a great move having john karl out there. it was a great move having mica out there as a liberal. i think it was very important. because it could become more trenld. don't you they that's the move. that where they're going? >> you know political scientists for the last 20 years have been do you meaning the decline of the party and the rise of. we calm it center politics. we've seen these trends. this seems to be the mark of a few era on this. >> it's often about money. what's happening, they're watching them outsource a lot of expensive tasks like media and data to outside groups loosely partnered with. the part first raise money at 10,000 and 20,000 a pop.

if you can raise $100,000 or a million a pop and fund those outside groups it's very efficient. >> we started with the mccain in 2002 we saw the rise of 527 groups before citizens united. this is long before citizens united. >> one is any of these groups start negative ads against hillary clinton this year. the other is the super packs for the candidates. a lot of people at that event, what are they going to do and will they write $10 million $20 million checks? that can make a difference sooner than these groups do. >> we have so much more to get to. >> all right. you guys just drove right through the news here. we'll get to it though. rear admiral john kirby and senator pat toomey will join us and sixteen kenny g will be our guest. plus the most famous missing

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because you know how critical i am of the panel ent. you kept pe going. >> good. >> natalie was amazing. >> oh here we go. >> look at you. >> who can pull that off? >> shake it baby shake it don't break it. >> that was amazing. >> the hockey stick helped. >> you were great overall. >> it's time to take a look at the morning paper. we start with nbc news and dot-com. it's been a rough week with 16 incidents disrupting air travel. a flight from l.a. to chicago the fbi says it landed safely tuesday after receiving an online bomb threat with somebody claiming to be with isis. later in the day, more threats were posted on twitter to delta, southwest and american airline flights. over the weekend, f-16 jets were scrambled to atlanta's airport after bomb threats on twitter. a delta airlines flight en route from florida was grounded in

dallas out of security concerns and mica on monday threats against southwest airlines flights appeared on twitter. the fbi says it is dealing with these incidents often a case-by-case basis obviously, very concerning. >> the "new york times" government employee behind the drone that crashed on the white house lawn monday is explaining exactly how it wound up there. >> he was drunk, actually. >> the man that turned himself in told authority he had been drinking before losing control of the device if bad weather. he says he was drooink drinking blocks from the white house before testing out his friend's drone. don't drink and drone, people. the man reportedly texted his friend and said he was worried it had gone down on the white house lawn before going to sleep. interesting news reports the next morning, he called his employer the secret service began investigating. >> it is so important that people don't drone and drink.

>> don't do it. >> drone responsibly. >> do not drone and drink. >> we get the from the "wall street journal," just when you thought apple couldn't get bigger. it shattered a previously sales record selling 7 million iphones in 2013 this is is iphones every hour. it boosted the company's profits to $18 billion. as for the next big venture from apple. ceo tim cook announced it would begin the apple watch. that's the thing that everybody has been talking about. they're hoping to capitalize on. spring time coming out if april. the "new york times," sorry the new york post tiger woods made headlines last week after being photographed with a missing tooth at girlfriend lindsey vonn's ski event. he was back yesterday at the phoenix waste management phoenix open did i say that right? >> way to brand a golf event.

>> can you believe that in. >> ithaca you would the, yeah you got sand traps of gar badge. you got actually. >> oh, come on that's fought what it's called. >> you got open strings of sue annual. >> you talk about -- don't make fun of me it's not called that. anyway he has his tooth back. >> there is medical waste. >> it's not called the waste management phoenix open. >> you got to figure out in the program which hole you go to get your golfball it will have the hypodermic needle. >> stop it. someone tell me what it's called. >> waste management phoenix open. >> no, it's not. >> i swear. >> apparently he sat down with the media and talked about his tooth. >> okay. >> and the dude with one of the video cameras on his shoulder kneeling in front of me, stood up turned caught me square in

the mouth. so he chipped that one cracked the other one. and so then you know i'm trying to keep this thing on so the blood is fought all over the place. and luckily, he hit the one i had the root canal on. that the one that chippedch so but the opts one had to be fixed as well because it had cracks all through it. >> mica if somebody did that if the camera backed into you in the south of france when you were going to the beach, seriously, how upset would you be? >> that whole story is awful. >> the hollywood reporter has the information, oh about ghost busters one of the most iconic movies from the 1980s. >> yeah. >> do you experience feels of dread if your basement or attic. >> have you or your family seen a spook or ghost? >> if the answer is yes, pick up

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cent show on the shift josh borrow. >> this is like night of the thousands stars in the '70s, anne margaret on the trap ease and stuff like that. >> joey heatherington. >> and red skelton. >> before my time. >> unfortunately, we have no anne margaret on the sew. to the man that has been called the man of anne margaret reporting, washington's chief produces correspondent from politico. mike, you have been reporting on the one big job left in hillary land. what is that? >> good morning, joe, before we do that wlet say happy birthday to john vanderhigh. >> you shouldn't insult jim so much. >> john would agree with me. >> mica did the birthday wish to

jim van de hei on video and called jim, she did not know it was bad words. >> it was it was all true, there you go. >> what do which we have? what is the one job that fans in hillary land have not failed yet? >> way to ask the question. >> joe, we know so much about this campaign we know it's launching in early april, we know the pollster the finance guy. there is one big job that's left. that's the communications director. who will shape her public image? and, joe, we have learned that hillary campaign has learned something from their last campaign learned something from her years as secretary of state and they say that they're going to have a more media-friendly approach this time. at the very least someone in the inner circle who is the good cop, someone who can help her have a better relationship with the press. >> so they fixed out, mike it's

not good as seeing as openly contemptuous of the media people that write glowing articles about you? >> it's funny, they said it to me in almost the same way as the top democrat said to me the default mode will not be the pitbull mentality. so one of the top names out there is jen pal merpal palmeire erick schultz at the white house, so we see at the dnc. so lots of big names in democratic politics. >> very interesting. >> lobbying for the job. they are still trying to find out just who is the right person for this last job. >> shutting down new york subways is very expensive. okay. as of 2014 there were 3. million people earning an average daily

wage of $409. a majority commute via the public transit system. even if it led 10% of people in new york city to take the day off the cost was around $160 million lost wages for those who are fought fortunate enough to get a paid snow day and lost productivity to the employers of those who did not get paid. >> obviously, josh a lot of second guessing today. >> well i think this is more than second guessing. the subway system is 100-years-old. they've closed it for very heavy rain event. but snow the whole point of building the subway it's under ground. it doesn't snow under ground. there was a blizzard in 1888 that wled them to say, oh gee, we have under ground trade a. key point -- >> can i ask you a question? anybody in the mayor's office do you have any confirmation

that they know that it doesn't snow underground? >> first if fairness people have been giving the mayor a lot of trouble over this this is all the governor's decision. the mayor can fought keep the subway opened if it wants. in fact, it became clear the mayor's office found out 15 minutes before the order was announced publicly that the governor was going to do this. so this is all on andrew cuomo. >> a lot of times, jen, you have people that miscalls on storms. i know this from being in hurricane alley. politicians never get if trouble. it's like a dammed in you do, dammed if you don't. josh makes a lot of good point. it's like george w. bush with the color-coded terror warnings. you kind of get blame for them. i kind of see where they are here, sim pa thetic. you raise even in your article, josh people got stuck in the subway before. you say, what's the small cost to pay? that's not political disaster. you got that on camera. people complaining.

so i think politicians are covering themselves. >> it's political in a way it wouldn't have been ten, 20 30 years ago him people struck down they will be tweeting. you will have helicopters flying, somewhere under ground. they have the news it would be. let me ask you a question that i was asking mark before. we were talking about jeb and mit. do you think jeb's in? >> i think she making all indications he's in. put this audacious goal and his aids are denying it that he will try to raise $100 million and knock everyone out of the rails. no one believes they can do it. it's double anyone has rayes raised. it's double his brother in one quarter. does he get john huntman and get media marnl nalized? i think he's done a good job of staying out there alienateing too many conservatives. >> why are conservatives so suspicious of jeb bush? >> i think a lot of people are

suspicious because of common core and immigration. i think that's often too much of an issue, too many people think that's a big issue. his last one i think is really big. >> that's what i said. you look at the conservative base. i love 41. but the conservative base did it fought love 41. w. i think we said this before the coke brothers network exists because of big spending republicans. they sort of doing the when george w. bush was spinning this country into debt. are we really going bush '41, bush '43, bush '45? >> i will say two things if you want a perfect candidate, vote for someone else bill clinton says that. there is no perfect candidate in the field. jeb's last name ideal? i think he can raise $100 million because of super packs. one guy can write him a check of $75 million and get him three-quarters of the way there.

finally, jeb bush is one of the greatest education reformers in the last 25 years. two, if the republican party doesn't adopt his position on immigration, they will lose the election. >> i disagree with you completely. that's always fighting the -- you do not have to support ha pathway to citizenship. you can support legalization and you can say you can get citizenship the way somebody from pakistan and the ukraine the same way somebody from france can get citizen -- >> i think it's zero. if they don't support some solution that's bipartisan they can't win the general election. >> oh god, just end it. >> thank you so much. we appreciate it. >> thank you for being here. come back, thank you as well. >> up next five years after walking away from his post in afghanistan, bo bergdahl has yet to be charged with desertion. >> that may be about to change. nbc's jim miklazewski joins us

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investigation into sergeant bergdahl. according to nbc news jim miklazewski, senior defense officials say charges are likely for bergdahl. jim joins us now from the pentagon. jim, what is going on here? >> well mica despite the claim from the dod and army officials, quite frankly, that no decision has been made we are being told by senior defense and military officials the decision is much closer now to charge bo bergdahl with desertion. according to officials this would be a lower level of desertion under the uniform code of military justice. not one which would garnary serious sentence, if he were court maushd and convicted, the maximum sentence is five years. officials are talking about a lookness to give bo bergdahl credit for the time he spent in

captivity. >> right. >> what they are looking for is some kind of plea deal whereby bo bergdahl would leave the military with a less than honorable discharge forfeiting as much as $300 million in back pay and bonuses and getting down to the rank of specialist and pfc. in that regard the u.s. military could quite frankly avoid a drawn out court marshall and perhaps bergdahl could avoid this issue. >> jim, why is this so uncomfortable? >> it's uncomfortable. quite frankly, the sense i got from the military in the very beginning, nobody wants to see bo bergdahl in prison. the official who are very federaliar with the interrogations bergdahl had undergone during his transition back to freedom after he was released by the taliban, they say they characterize bergdahl

as harmless he has no ill intent animosity, the u.s. for that mat. according to one official we talk to, look, this is one messed up mixed up kid who made a very bad decision. >> you do sense that. you sense that bergdahl when he came back to the united states he also seemed to be quiet, humble. kept his head down. you also. >> trauma advertised. >> trauma advertised. did not make contact with his family that told him to follow his conscience. you know i think i have a feeling it just seemed reading through the lines, there are a lot of people in the military that don't like what he did at all yet feel for this young kid because as you said very confused and messed up. he got some horrible guidance. >> that could be. we are told in fact that bergdahl when he was a soldier,

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you are very good. i always knew that very friendly. >> we like you. we're not sure about heilman. >> park halperin during the -- i thought you didn't notice. >> the kids are all watching by the way, they all love it. >> with us from washington we have "new york times" reporter jerpy peters and politico reporter for the washington post robert kosta. >> so mark halperin fox news may be lined up hein jeb bush. we are hearing reports that rupert loves jeb. that not bad for the "wall street journal," the fox news but i just i don't know i conservatives, everywhere i go conservatives don't trust jeb. they don't want another bush in the white house. >> rich people like jeb and with one exception since reagan the person who has raised the most money the year before the election has become the republican nominee. >> who is the exception? >> i think jeb bush will raise

the most money this year him i'm telling you, rich people like him. he's a better campaigner than you think. he's buoyant, he's upbeat. he's not the jumpy guy you remember. >> when did jeb? i always said jeb has been my favorite leader that i followed. i worked for him. raised a lot of money for him. but i never confuse jeb as being joyful. nobody that's ever known jeb has confused jeb --. i think. >> the iphone has made him joyful. >> he's the candidate of the business when of the party? >> yes. the establishment. >> and immigration party as well. >> but the business wing right? he knows them. they trust him. they think he's solid. he's worked with them he was in the finance for a bit. he was with them on immigration. he's not a cultural worrier in politics. >> what happens at the end of every republican tom nation fight? what do the people that control the process say? time to pick a president. of the ought people running,

they're going to have to prove they will be in that same thought bubble when it's time to pick a president. >> all right, with us from walk we have nbc political director moderator chuck todd. lot to talk about. we found it fascinating, it would influence the republican nomination fight in a big way. rupert murdock swooning over jeb bush in his immigration speech. obviously, not a big fan of mitt romney. >> that makes a big difference on fox news and the "wall street journal." doesn't it? >> it could. remember the fox candidate in 2008 was rudy guiliani. people forget that. but they did a lot to help rudy guiliani, particularly, granted, it was more than the roger els candidate than the rupert candidate. but i wouldn't i think that gets over, overrated a little bit. but it's funny you bring up this jeb thing. i was thinking this morning what if you know he's the son of a wealthy family, a

successful political family he is somebody that plays well in the corridor am i talking about john huntsman or jeb bush? and there is a fine line between becoming the john huntsman of the field tanhan becoming the main stream candidate of the field. >> that is the second time this morning somebody suspected he might be this year's john huntman. absolutely fascinating. let's go. >> you are looking at mike huckabee huckabee is a guy that our good buddy pad but canpat buchanon would call him a great candidate, a great political candidate, a great political athlete west virginia are you hearing about huckabee in his nomination fight? >> i spent the last few days with huckabee on the campaign trail or on his book tour. he still has those talent

hello, darling, telling stories about crawfish and fishing in indiana. he's good. i was with a lot of pastors in iowa they're still wary of jumping on his ship at this moment. >> there is something about southern politicians, i don't know what it is they are so good. >> they know how to unpack a crawfish. >> i remember floyd spence a chairman of the armed services committee, a 50-year-old woman stood up in a town hall meeting. she said my daughter is having a hard time getting a job out of college. he goes oh dear lord it's one of the great tragedies of america, children having children. i mean come on. >> we have chuck here. >> all right. so anyway whoever is in the republican nomination mica. >> yeah. >> ntt past they were thinking we will run against obama, the obama legacy approval rating at 40 39 upsidedown hillary is running away. >> she is going to have to

change. why is that? >> because the latest gallop tracking poll has his approval rating at 50%. it's the first time since june of 2013 chuck, he hit that mark in gallup polling. he reached that two months before democrats lost control of the senate. what going on here? >> well if you didn't need more prove of an old adage now in politics that improving economy does more for an approval rating than anything else. look at the domestic part of his job, the economy, it feels like it's getting better. people are starting the low gas prices have started making people feel better. but overseas things couldn't be worse in many ways. right. so we saw it in our last poll people have basically said they didn't approve of his job rating on foreign policy. they have not let that impact their overall view of his job rating. which is more proof that ultimately presidential job

ratings are how people feel about the economy more than they do about their feelings of the commander-in-chief sometimes. because again, this is what's amazing to me his numbers continue to be that on foreign policy, but overall the numbers are improving. there is only one explanation, the economy. >> this goes back to something else bill clinton. a guy who actually of all the economic indicators looked at gas prices first. >> yeah. >> he was obsessed with gas prices. those gas prices keep going down. we had a debate yesterday, whether it was good for the economy, bad for the economy. it is great for consumers. it is great for presidents sitting in the white house, while those gas prices go down even if this president has probably done more to discourage drilling and discourage this sort of exploration that led to lower gas prices. if you just look at the amount of drilling that has not been

allowed on federal land since he has become president. he's benefitted from a lot of people in private sector. >> so we talked about jeb, mitt. we are looking at scott walker. i want to ask about hillary peters todd says she has been distancing herself in the past because they weren't where they were i guess. but she was secretary of state. overseas is blowing up. how does she navigate this? shouldn't she be commenting on foreign affairs? an her position as secretary of state under president barak obama important? how does she navigate that? >> i think you will see republicans making a lot of that point. they will use the benghazi committee to try to do that. i'm not sewer if you saw yesterday, but elidge ja cummings, the ranking democrat said he has spoken to hillary. she agreed to come testify. you know that could be make for a pretty explosive hearing. now, ultimately, though elections don't get fought over

foreign policy typically, when you look at where people rank tear priorities foreign policy is pretty low down on the list. it's all the economy. so, unless the world blows up in a way that we -- >> can't avoid it. >> yeah. >> exactly. then i think foreign policy will, once again, be a lesser factor. >> see i agree. i think we could be in a situation, joe i know we can't avoid. we have the rise above us. these are fought things we can turn our heads from. >> you know chuck, most of the time it is the economy. sometimes, though you have something like the iranian hostage crisis or chaos around the world that combines with a struggling economy to create a toxic mix. democrats like to talk about benghazi as it relates to hillary clinton. you can look at a lot of things hillary clinton said about russia, about syria, a lot of things he said about getting the troops out of iraq. you can look at a chaotic world in the middle east. it's not too hard for political

candidates or opponent to draw that against the secretary of state and across the world. >> i agree, it could be a big general election issue. to me this is going to be the most contentious part of the republican primary debate because i think it's i think voters will be partly trying to almost interview the candidates to see which one is capable of dealing with these national security challenges. then we will have philosophical debates between sort of a rand paul school of thought and a more hawkish view and, frankly, we don't know where jeb bush stands on some of these things. we know mitt romney part of his reasoning for wanting to run and feeling like he can run is vindication on foreign policy predictions of sorts that he believes that he made the pin pediatric. so i think the differenciator will be on national security. ultimately, the candidate that is able to both come across as

tough but different from the bush foreign policy right. which is why i think this cal for jeb is so difficult. >> yes. >> let's go back to bob kosta for a sec. i was really surprised by what happened during the john karl debate out if california this past weekend at the coke brothers' event. rand paul he gets an a-plus for courage. but how are people in the republican primary, the voters that you talked to what do they think about guy that is in favor of more negotiations with iran lessening of the sanctions? he really i mean ted cruz and marco yubio were all predictable in what they said. they played with the crowd. but you looked at rand paul. you had to respect him at the same time had to be thinking man, is this really the best way for you to go forward and win the primary? >> there is enthusiasm among

these grass roots activists, on domestic poichls on foreign policy, i'm not seeing a lot of momentum behind senator paul. how much does he really articulate a contrarian view, a fawn interventionist view. if are you in iowa all you saw is that hawkish muscular perspective pushed by candidates. lindsey graham they're all thinking of mounting presidential bids to make sure the hawkish view get through and paul does not. >> there is doubt that view is out of step. there are three advantages first and foremost it's what he actually believes like there is an advantage. two, it allows him to appeal to different voters and bring new people into the party that can help in these contests where you can win. the last thing is it lets him take fights. in a crowded field, you want to be in the fight. you want to be in the center of attention and rise to the occasion.

he can beat people in the edebate. he can take them on 14 15 16 candidates, you want to be in the fight. these debate will be crowded, day-to-day news cover annual he'll be in the fight. >> from political debates to the deflate-gate controversy, surrounding the new england patriots. it may have its first suspect? >> really? >> nbc says the nfl is investigating a patriots locker room attendant and his possible connection to the under inflated balls used in the afc championship game. the report cites unnamed sources and have not been confirmed by nbc news. the investigation is reportedly focused on a 90-second bathroom break taken by the attendant before the game. one nfl source is saying the person is seen on the under surveillance tape carrying game balls. >> so here's the question. they have under surveillance cameras in bathrooms, i guess.

which reminds me. i was on a -- a couple years ago, and in the bathroom there was a sticker that said toilet cams are for under surveillance purposes only but they obviously have one here. >> they might have them on the door. >> not inside. >> maybe they had, chuck. here is a sound byte from yesterday. >> media day, phoenix, yeah. >> we are focused on seattle this week. that's it. it's all about seattle. it's all about us getting ready to play sunday and that's where all of our attention is. i'm not really worried about the rest of that. >> if the wells investigation is not able to definitively determine that our organization tampered with the air pressure in the footballs. i would expect and hope the league would apologize to our entire team and, in particular coach belichick and tom brady.

>> chuck, you just got to absolutely love jeb there. >> oh my god. >> you can't prove it apologize. >> they might prove it. >> you know first of all, i hate to see it's a locker room attendant. are we going to scapegoat somebody like that? >> why did he go to the potty with the balls? >> why did anybody go into the bathroom? sometimes the simplest explanation -- >> can he throw a football? >> maybe he had to go. i'm just saying. >> it doesn't make any sense. why did he i'm just saying? >> the thing that bothers me about this story and the thing that should and why you heard robert kraft say what he said. look how easily so many ought people in the nfl have assumed guilt here on the patriots. what do all of them know that we don't as fans? think about the way we

understand politics and when a certain politician suddenly gets caught in public. we all say, you know we kind of have been hearing this for a long time. that the way i feel like i'm watching the rest of the nfl community react to the patriots. >> yeah. >> whether it's troy aikman the former gm of the carolina panthers. that's the part of this that has troubled me. it's not the crime or whatever you want to do the crime or itself because it seems petty. it's the fact that everybody wants ojump on this and say, aha, now, there it is. >> what we know if are you the chain of cuss toetd of the patriots' ball you do not deliver to tom brady the exact football, you are insane or fired. that's what we know. >> so the guy is saying he should be fired. >> maybe he had to go to the bathroom. >> he had to go. >> you know, i think this ballboy who is about to get fired needs to also apologize to tom brady. how sad.

how sad. >> there is a polk difference between those and the new england states that got hit by the actual blizzard and the rest of the country on this. >> eia. >> so chuck's point, i mean the polls do show a divide in america between football fans between those who believe the patriots and the rest of us. >> there are a lot of people who hate the patriots. >> i want to know if they cheated. >> it remind me of the jfk stuff, he has a lone gunman theory. like the rogue washroom attendant. >> stetd of the grassy knoll. >> all right. major airports are scheduled to resume today. but this morning it looks like a another rough day in store for other travelers. joining us from laguardia airport in new york city nbc's -- oh there is people there. >> no footballs, people here. >> reporter: good morning, guy, listen from boston to philly everything is up and running today. we've already got 650 flight cancellations system wide.

that compares to 6700 on monday and tuesday, so things are improving. i checked the boards a minute ago. the flights most likely to be cancelled are departing ride in i flight, because they don't have the planes here yet. really, this will be a day of recovery. with the snow cleared out the ramps and runways in new york were back in business overnight. inside the terminal it was dead quiet. cynthia minard spent a second night on the cots in laguardia, anxious to get home to the bahamas. >> you don't sleep soundly, by no stretch of the imagination, know. >> after a whiteout and a full day of digging out for the other airports in the northeast the airlines say this morning they'll be back in the air. >> once it's stopped. it's not like a light swim. you can't turn it back on. it has to go through the measured process. >> reporter: more than 7500 flight cancellations have passengers stranded across the country. >> kind of frustrated.

>> even in chicago. >> i'm a little frustrated. i want to get home to my own bed. >> reporter: of two nights persons strandened after that atlantic flight at jfk monday night can't wait to get out. among them a photographer. >> mostly british stiff upper lip and all that quite opt mick not much yelling. >> reporter: back at lagardia cynthia minard doesn't care much for yelling or snow for that matter. >> i think so and the quote that has been in the bahamas is rarely proven to be true with me. i can testify to that. >> reporter: this week it may really be better in the bahamas. yeah wouldn't that be nice right about now. a quick note on amtrak. 2w40i67b89 ride the northeast corridor. today we are resumed operation, trains are on a reduced schedule. guys, back to you. >> tom costello thank you very much. chuck todd thank you as well.

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senior defense and military officials that the decision is much closer now to charge bo bergdahl with desertion. now, according to officials, this would be a lower level of desertion under the uniform code of military justice. not one which would garner a very serious sentence. >> nbc news chief pentagon correspondent jim miklazewski just moments ago on "morning joe." joining us now, pentagon press secretary rear admiral john kirby. we will continue the story with him and get the latest. sir, first of all, am i right to say there is some precarious fancy footwork being done here dealing with this case and what are some of the complicated issues around it? >> i don't think you are right if saying there is footwork going on here. this is a judicial process we go through in many cases that we deal with. what happened here is an investigation was done and

complete into the circumstances surrounding sergeant bergdahl's disappearance from his base in afghanistan. that investigation was handed over to a four star army general who is now charged with taking a look at that going through it lean by line, if he nodes to, to determine what sort of disposition in this case is required going forward. now, he could edmonton nothing at all or he could recommend everything up to including a general court marshall. but the general millithe four star general who is looking at this is taking his time. he's going through this very very deliberately and in a measured way. >> but, sir the question is whether he is a deserter or to the. is it not? >> that is a question that will be considered by general milli. but again, even if general millidecides to send this to a court marshall and a jury of his peers to determine if he is guilty of such a charge. i want to be clear, he hasn't been charged with a crime. he is still an active duty

soldier. he deserves due process here. >> a couple days ago, we heard several reports that he was going to be charged with desertion. can you give us the news report based on what you have learned over the past few days in. >> i wish i knew. i don't know how anonymous sources are out there putting this stuff out there. it's speculation at best. i can tell you this i know with certainty, he has not been charged. there is no pressure or rush to judgment here. general milliwill take his time i can tell you general milliis not under any decision to make a decision days or weeks is not too speculative. >> here's how it will work general milliwill decide this is what i think, how i think the

case should be disposed of. it can be everything from administrative punishment to court marshall. then that process will continue. so we have to get through that it happens in a short time frame, too. >> let me back up. why are we weight on a decision? . >> this was investigated in the fall. they looked into his situation surrounding the department cure. they hasn't had a chance to talk to sergeant bergdahl to get his side of the story. it's weighty. it's big. in any case when a soldier is looked at for potential charges, violations against the usmcj is rush it. there will be no pressure. >> if i can switch topics on you

and ask you, today, is isis on the retreat or are they on the offensive? >> i would say they're on the defensive. they remain on the defensive. as a matter of fact which have been saying they were on the defensive the last six-to-eight weeks. they aren't grabbing new ground what they're trying to do is hold the drowned they have. we also see them very much trying to protect their lines of communication, their supply routes. >> that is all, that has all the earmarks of an organization that is very much trenching into a defensive pos cure. >> nick. go ahead. >> so i'm curious, on to bergdahl, the talk of a lesser type of charge of desertion as opposed to the full version. are there different levels? can you explain the different tiers or kind of charges that might figure in a court marshall? >> well, again, let's not rush to desertion charges on bo bergdahl. but to answer your questions,

there are three levels of desertion. the lowest level not being the serious, obviously the higher level. each one deals with the intent to desert. because the intent to desert actually factors into the kind of desertion that we would try somebody for. and again i won't speculate at all that this is where it will go with sergeant bergdahl. but there are levels of desertion. the highest level the harshest one would yield the harshest punishment if one is found guilty of it. >> two quick questions, first question, has bo bergdahl spoken with his parent since hess returned to the united states? >> i don't know. i have no idea what his personal communications are. >>let see if this next one is better admiral. the taxpayers pay you to give a straight answers. do you believe the patriots intentionally deflated the balls? >> well, i'm a tampa bay

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>> well listen we wanted to get off to a fast start this year, as a result taking bills that have passed in the past and put other bills together if spite of the fact the committees in many cases have not had their organizational meetings. and so yeah, there have been a couple stumbles. all in our effort to show the american people that we are here to listen to their priorities. >> i get upset with it the other day, mark tony danza was saying, what chariot are you on? this little schtick is not cute. you say mark halperin i saw your show, what itself the name of it? >> with what we learned sprchlt. >> it's not what we learned, with all due respect. >> savannah guthrie had that idea. >> get out? >> a good fame. >> with all due respect all the time bill belichick, and john mccain. >> will the amazing thing,

maybe you know about this. your show has been on two weeks, three weeks, already 47 million people like across the world, armed forces arabia. this is the the serious thing since what? >> mica is a good fan. >> he has campbell brown next to him. it's on international, it's going international. >> he's turning japanese. >> i think so. they're going to syndicate this right? >> we got long range plans. >> exactly. >> listen we got a lot of things going, we have john boehner coming in. they have this abortion bill. they will ban it if 20 weeks. >> that blows up. border security bill boom they're not able to get that together. they got a pretty huge majority. shouldn't they be able to pass these things? >> there are some hiccups. when you got a big conference it's easy for people to stray.

nobody thinks they're the last vote. everybody thinks they are a liar. i think the speaker hasn't quite yet figured out the right way to drive things. look we have a new whip. mr. scalise is new in this job. it's a hard job to physical out where the vote is coming from. >> jeremy peters you are on the hill. this happens to every party witness they get in power. certainly, mitch mcconnell seen it in the senate not being able to end the debate on keystone now the republicans are stumbling a couple times on the outside. >> right. and it is only january, i think we have to remember that. the republicans have a lot of time to work these kinks out. however, it really does pose a challenge in that republicans said once they took over congress, things were going to function again and basically what the house has done is what it has done for the last four years, which is pass a bunch of bills that are certain to die in the sfwlachlt the house needs to figure out an john boehner needs to work with this conference to

calibrate is how it can kind of beat back or tamp down on the demands of the far right conservatives, so the more moderate republican senate will actually pass these bills and even be able to whoo the six democrats they need to break a filibuster. at that time proven really difficult. >> will with national review on line. >> i think water interesting is there is not consistency in how each of these bills have died. someone like mark or jeremy may be able to answer tan i am. it died by almost a new caucus and new faction. so boehner has to reach out this wide to get everybody together. it's not just dying at the hands of the tea party, or the far right conservative. now he has a brand few i guess empowered moderate faction as well. >> that's what happens when you pick up the seats and the democrats used to win. a lot of times you pick up more moderates. >> more moderate more problems. >> is it a party that emphasizes

abortion or not? is it a party that has solutions on immigration or not? just wait for the spending fights, the budget fight. then they're really going to have to speak from the left and the right. >> let's talk about another thing john boehner made headlines for, not only here there is a huge debate about the invitation of netanyahu to speak between joint session. it's an issue in america. it's also an issue in israeli politics. >> i don't think it's impressive. it's a little odd that now i guess we have foreign leaders lobbying directly congress to interfere with something the president wants to get done. now congressman tom cotton i think is pretty honest on this. he wants to be the fly in the ointment on these negotiation, calls them a sham. says these negotiations with iran, the nuclear negotiations feed to end. i think it's interesting as congress debates sanction what's the purpose of these sanctions? >> you know, a lot of americans don't understand it was the sanctions that brought iran to the table and then the president

took his feet off the gas and i guess the question is are the iranians finally for the first time since fine 79 coming in good faith? we have been looking for iranian moderates forever. there are a couple iranians catching flack at home for doing this. you never know every time since fine 79 we have tried to find the iranian moderates, bad, bad things have happened. >> on the other hand we delegate foreign policy to the people in congress. right? it just doesn't work. but you can't, you know, have the house negotiating foreign policy for their country. >> yeah. >> all right will cane thank you very much. jeremy peters thank you as well t. fallout coming up from a bad forecast. what the meteorologist got wrong and who is responsible when things don't go exactly as planned? we'll be right back. ision warning

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>> i do a dramatic reading from the onion. nyc mayor reconcile yourselves with your god for all will perish in the thempest new york. as a major winter storm continues its advance toward new york city mayor bill deblasio advised people to make peace with whatever higher power they call god for all shall meet their death in the coming tempest. quote the furious pork roth bearing down upon us knows neither mercy nor reason and all will perish cowering in their brittle dwelling, said deblasio, adding that none would find save those favored by providence to pass quietly if their sleep

is there that was new york city mayor bill deblasio performing a dramatic reading tuesday of an onion article about his administration's warning on the blizzard. with us now from athens georgia, is a former president, the american meerlt logical society. now the director of georgia's atmospheric science program. professor jay marshall shepard. meteorologist bill kierans joins us as well. >> joe decided to join the weather coverage. >> what happened here? what happened, man? come on? it's like 18 feet. >> i have to make myself feel better for the weather forecast first. let show you quickly, take this wrapping up full. this was the forecast 24 hours before the first snowflakes fell from the national weather service in new york. this is wall eye the mayor did what he did to shut down. the city's forecast was from 18 to 24. ten inches officially fell there. areas of northern jersey and the lower hudson valley that's why everyone was saying what they

were saying. here's how i graded my forecast. i kind of split it into two. the eastern half where the worst of the storm was. i gave myself an awe. partland 20 to 24. but a d for the west side. >> so let me interrupt you. you are grading yourself this way. i guess it's like football players, baseball players, basketball players, always find it harder to play in new york. i remember, i think it was 2004. ivan hurricane ivan. we're in atlanta. you are up here doing the forecast. i remember that, you know the hurricane was going left and i was like pensacola will be fine. at the last second it veered to the right it veered east and that 30 mile veer. >> changed everything. >> all difference. has changed the landscape of pensacola forever. i grew up in a hurricane zone. i know mother nature is mother nature. i think the second guessing here to be quite honest with you is ridiculous.

that what happens when you have storms. they're statible. >> that's dr. sheppard he's an expert. what was so hard about this frost on the western edge in your opinion? >> >>. >> let me change the narrative. all along with the modeles, there was uncertainty in new york and new jersey and philadelphia than this was in massachusetts and connecticut. what we are learning from this event and it's most important is we have to do a better job with the community, all of us in communicating that uncertainty. we were talking about this as a historic event across the board, but we didn't do a nice job of kuhn indicating that models were more certain in some parts of the northeast and other parts. when people ask me i say nothing hammond. the models were always uncertain in new york and new jersey. we have to communicate that

level of risk and uncertainty rather than giving us i to the we all got caught up in historic historic. >> i'll poise this the way you are saying it. there is another way of giving snowfall totals. some people are leaning to doing it like this by giving a probability. i'll ask joe and mica. we all said new york city was getting 18-to-24, in that range. if i told you new york city had 100% chance of 6 inches 50% chance of 2-feet and maybe a 70% chance of 1-foot. does that help you make decisions or do you need those numbers? that's the other numbers. we can give you the uncertainties by the probabilities. can the average person out there interpret? >> actually from my perspective, your forecast was exactly what i needed to make decisions. you know it could have been really really bad, and we were prepared for it to be really really bad. it was very clear it veered off. >> and in a situation like this and it is a lot like hurricanes

in a situation like this you don't know which way the storm is going to go. the best thing you can do is prepare people about what's possible, thomas. and you know what if you don't make those preparations, you can stay if you want to but we see these sort of storms people die on the roads. people freeze in their homes, really bad things happen. i think they did exactly what they were supposed to do and did it well. >> i wanted to ask you, did this influence your colleagues? >> can i jump in. >> sure. dr. sheppard go ahead. >> yeah i just wanted to follow up on that. one of the things i have been noting and i think joe mentioned this, joe, i'm a graduate of florida state university so i very much remember many of those hurricanes in pensacola. you know the hurricane when it makes landfall we put a cone of uncertainty on the map. i'm sure many of you have seen that. i think one of the interesting things to consider in addition to what bill was talking ab,

should we be using a cone of uncertainty? if we had, new york new jersey would have been on the edge of that uncertainty. it may have communicated a different message. i think those are the types of things we will be dealing with in our community. we will be talking about the show show on the weather channel is there thank you very much i think that may be a great idea to have that cone. that's certainly how we made calculations in the south. they can do the same thing here. >> does this make you trep dashs about giving a backlash of trying to forecast and predict for everybody because people are kind of kicking you in the shins over this? does this make people change how they will work and predict the storms? >> people may not listen to you as well as they did the storm before. but as far as the forecaster goes, you learn early, every event, every storm the completely different. we have a whole other winter

storm hitting the northeast sunday into monday and, you know i am totally ignoring what happened, because it has no impact on my next forecast. >> that's right. >> look at. that he's a game at that! he's a game player man. keep yourself focused. >> exactly. like water off a duck. his little feet going under the water so fast. >> he just gave up -- >> have to be 100%. who decided that? >> i love karins though he's a gamer. he throws a home run pitch, hanging curveball, but you know what? he's forgotten about it. >> you know what bill says, i'm only as good as my next forecast. and still ahead, media days. going behind the scenes in phoenix. >> what the -- >> could be louis. >> who is that? >> he wouldn't go-go pro- >> what's with the hair?

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no. we're -- >> really good at teleprompter. you read the first line. >> super bowl media one of the most highly anticipated events of the nfl season. >> you know kids today, when the stars of the big game answer tough and inciteful and downright stupid questions from media, the press. >> oh perfect. >> and louis. >> so we sent louis. >> yeah.

the guy at home wants to be entertained and i promise you, these players here are going to entertain you this year, baby. >> what are these players going through? the pressure? >> you're just preparing. i'm telling all the players i can to put fuel in me so i can deliver pain to you. >> how do you task your -- [ inaudible ] on game day? >> demonstrate to them the kind of mentality we think helps them perform at theirs best. that's diligence, hard work a process to get yourself to game time where you feel like you can handle what's coming your way. >> hey, coach, are you going to wear the vintage cutoff sweatshirt for the game? >> what are you doing before game time to get, kind of get yourself together, and is it going to change super bowl day? >> you know for me it really is not going to change. i try and relax. >> different on game day. sometimes i listen to music. sometimes i don't.

sometimes i just sit in my locker. sometimes i'm joking around. so i won't know until game day. >> sunday mornings i wake up, do yoga yoga, eat oatmeal, getting ready to go. >> that's about it. >> a super bowl i'm in my zone. i got my headphones on. it's the same routine. nothing ever changes. >> fans listen to music, have breakfast, be normal as possible. it's just -- just a game. >> who's been that one person that's kind of helped you out mentally and emotionally? >> i've had a lot. my parents and my wife certainly. you know, i've got a great support system so -- i'm excited about this game this is a great challenge for us. hopeful he we'll go out and play good. it's, you know my focus is on what's ahead. >> i got to say this -- >> look we're doing "morning joe" at night. >> we have a special "morning joe" at night friday 8:00 p.m. live from the site of super

bowl -- >> we're going to phoenix! >> phoenix. you know i will tell you, i have one goal between now and that night. >> what? >> i want to get my hair looking like tom brady's. that was the most messed up hair -- >> that was hat head. >> no. that was great, man. >> al naturel. >> i've seen you with the -- >> it goes -- >> like the sam donaldson. >> mr. brady, mr. brady -- >> why are you answering his questions? >> that's my question. somehow mesmerized. >> somebody asked bill belichick what his favorite stuffed animal is. >> look at that hair. look at that hair! >> that's planned. >> that's totally not planned. the best part of that thing, thomas -- >> that's bed head. >> you got louis asking belichick a question and his response is our response in the office whenever louis asking a question. it's like this -- >> non-verbal. just non-verbal response. >> all right. still ahead, much more on

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so y'all can sit here and ask me all the questions y'all want to. i'm going to answer kwiwith the same answer so y'all can shoot if you all please. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm just here so i won't get fined. >> hey, i'm here so i won't get fined. hey, hey -- i'm here so i won't get fined. i'm just -- you better make more yoir time. you only got three, four more minutes. i'm just here so i won't get fined. hey, i'm just here so i won't get fined. >> oh my goodness. this could be very interesting. you know we're going to phoenix? the show's going to phoenix, doing a primetime special in super bowl -- i believe that's one of the key -- >> if you want to interview him, he's just going to say that. >> okay. thank you all for being here. i'm -- >> i'm only here so i won't get

fined. >> okay. >> it's in the contract. >> that's fair nick. halperin what do you have to say for yourself? >> i'm here so i won't get fined. >> oh. all right. let's -- you know we might ats well go there. i'm studying up on the teams so we can be so prepared. it's going to be very very exciting. joe, willie and me -- oh interview katy perry. this is going to be fun. going out to phoenix, but these teams and this super bowl seems unlike any other. am i wrong about that? >> oh it's a ratings bonanza. >> a ratings bonanza. i get that. i'm not sure what's wrong with that guy's attitude. the deplate gate controversy, the football thing, it's really hard not to fall into an inappropriate pun when talking about deflate-gate. so i mean dorian do you understand? like, nick this whole bathroom break thing. you just fell into it yourself, when we were talking about. >> i did.

i'm always taking balls to the bathroom. >> see? >> i'm already embarrassed. turning my head he. >> nothing suspicious about getting a little work done in the bathroom. >> were 12 balls taken into the bathroom? is that what we're talking about? >> roughly. >> let me read. the deflate-gate controversy surrounding the new england patriots may well have its first suspect suspect. investigating a patriots locker room attendant and his possible connection to the under infated balls used in the afc championship game. >> oh boy. >> swear to god. >> oh my goodness. >> swear -- to -- god. the report cite unnamed sources and not confirmed by nbc news but at this point we are feverishly going after it. the ininvestigation is focused on a 90-bathroom break. can you deplate 12 balls in 90 seconds? >> in the olympics. >> i do it all the time.

>> okay. so the bathroom break taken by the attendant happened right before the game. >> uh-huh. >> one nfl source is quoted as saying the employee is seen on surveillance tape -- oh good god -- we've got more tape. carrying game balls after they were -- "after" they were examined by referees. >> he's a person of interest and i'm sure hee he took it upon himself to deplate theflate the balls so brady would like them. >> maybe just wanted to help out. who knows. they'll never going to get to the bottom of this. if you looked at press day yesterday, it descended on phoenix for super bowl media day, tuesday, and there were a lot of questions about deflate-gate, mika. responses from the patriots, and guess what they revealed? you're going to love this. >> yes tell me. what? >> absolutely nothing. >> zip. nada. nothing. >> we're just focused on seattle this week. that's it. so it's all about seattle, all

about us getting ready to play sunday and that's -- that's where all of our attention is. not really worried about the rest of that. >> upon arrive until arizona on monday patriots owner bob kraft addressed the media with a prepared statement. he said, if the nfl's investigation exonerates his team, they deserve an apology. >> if the wells investigation is not able to definitively determine that our organization tampered with the air pressure in the footballs, i would expect and hope that the league would apologize to our entire team and in particular, coach belichick and tom brady. >> so you know what i love about this? originally there was, ah this is crazy. come on. this is funny. deflate ball? huh! then that didn't work. right? >> right, right. >> and so -- their next pose was, we didn't do it we didn't do it we didn't do it we

didn't do it we didn't do it we didn't do it. come on. this is crazy. this is horrible. that was post number two. hold it up. you're such a third grader. >> ah -- >> "balls to the stall." >> an objective headline. >> by our friends at the "daily news." >> i can't believe i didn't look. >> so that was the second post. right? first, like oh come on. >> right, right, right. >> then, oh no we didn't do it. shocked. we said you know where they are now with kraft. very tan kraft, he's a -- where they are? at that scene in "absence of malice" going around the table, and the d.a. make as pretty great case and paul newman does this. prove it. we are at the paul newman "absence of malice" stage of the patriots story where they say, prove it. >> they have surveillance tape.

might have it proved. >> they can't connect this kid. come on this is like a renegade kid. >> check his e-mails, his texts. he was told. >> nobody does that. >> a race against the clock. it is super bowl sunday. sunday at 6:00 p.m. versus tmz. because a league investigation is not going to be done by -- >> he's a rogue employee. >> a rogue employee. >> can we talk about politics? >> can you deflate 12 balls in 1:30. >> i just did it before i came on. it happens all the time. so let's talk politics. a lot of stuff is going on. >> yes. >> in politics. tons of stuff. >> the math, in terms of presidential politics as mitt romney eyes a run for the president. the "new york times" is reporting that media mogul rube pert murdoch rupert murdoch is impressed with jeb bush. over content especially a

section on the immigration reform. murdoch often criticized romney appearing to be out of favor again should he seek to run again. >> so mitt romney could not ever get a break with fox news. >> or with the "wall street journal" editorial page. >> or with the "wall street journal" editorial page. people are saying why does it matter at this stage that rupert murdoch is fondled all over jeb bush saying immigration is good for our economy? why is this a new story? because this guy helped shape news coverage for the republican primary more than anybody else. he and roger els, more than anybody else determines what millions and millions and millions of republican primary voters see, how they see it how the story framed what stories are covered and he hated romney. romney never got a break from

fokz fox news and now loves jeb, loves the fact jeb is pro-immigration, and i mean, this is big news for jeb. >> he did get some breaks with fox news. tons that were very good. rupert didn't have an alternative last time. not just jeb, three or four others chris christiened scott walker more than romney. it's good he's liberated now. doesn't have to spend time thinking in his head how can i win over paul and roger? if he's the nominee, it's a different path. not the fox path as strong as they are. >> whoever secures the republican nomination may have to run against a legacy. >> but let me just say that's the sort of liberation no republican candidate could want. having a guy -- fox news and running the "wall street journal"? >> it's not the first alternative, but catering to fox last time got him in trouble. trying to win them over got him in trouble >> i know what you're saying. >> i don't know, but -- go

ahead. what's the next story? >> whoever gets the nomination will have to run against a resurgence legacy of president obama. the latest gallup tracking poll approval rating at 50%. it is the first time since june of 2013 that he has hit that mark in a gallup polling. he reach add term low approveal of 38% in september, two months before democrats lost control of the senate. so. >> during that -- 50%. a lot of people around the white house who didn't think they were going to see that again. >> and they're jubilant. >> yeah. they are riding high. we saw that in the state of the union last week in terms of the president's bra vaud p's bravado. i was going to use another football term. riding high didn't expect this and are going to ride it out as long as they can. >> and nick we've been sitting around the table, and said the president delivering this speech that he delivered may not be good for the state of the union, may not be good for compromise. may not be good for getting

things done in washington, d.c., but it was good politically. we said that in realtime. good politically for barack obama. these numbers seem to bear that out? >> right. it he's entering the stage of his presidency where he can do what he wants. not facing anymore elections or mid-terms. he's saying here's who i am and always powerful for your base especially, to hear from your president, if you're in this party saying i believe in these things i'm going to do them and damn you guys if you don't go along with me. >> we've talked how the republicans compare to these diminishing poll numbers, now resurgent poll numbers. how does this impact hillary clinton? seemed to be distancing herself from president obama. wanted to drive a wedge between herself and her relationship with the administration. left her position. everything points to her distancing herself. does she now change her tune and do we all fall for her? >> her advantage is to be able to run with a lot of the advantage of an incumbent without actually being an

incumbent. >> gets to pick and choose her relationship? >> a ton of money early, but not saddled with whichever parts of the gender are not good for her. >> already started. i saw an article last week that i think it might have been in the "times" after distancing herself from barack obama, the economic numbers go well. so she decides she's going to run with obama. she's going to pick and choose and going to act like a clinton on the campaign trail. if it pays to throw him under the but she'll throw him under the bus, pays to hug him, they'll hug him. >> yesterday we are the reported that the koch brothers are set to pour $889 million into the 2016 cycle. nick, you write in part this -- the kochs effort will put enormous fund-raising pressure on democrats and liberal outside groups. allies of hillary rodham clinton, expect she will need to bring in more money than president obama, the moat successful fund-raiser in presidential history. it's no wonder the candidates show up when the koch brothers call, said david axelrod, a former senior adviser to mr.

obama. that's exponentially more money than any party there spend. in many ways they have superseded the party. >> nick talk about that. >> you know the scale here a billion dollars for a collection of outside groups is just astonishing. it is so much money and for the guys that want to run for president on the right, that meeting that you were at right? this donor gathering, there is no bigger single concentration of outside the establishment money on the right. >> by the way -- >> than that group. >> so glad you said that. that's the surprised me. why are you here? doing basic reporting. these people don't love the republican party. in fact they are there, mark halperin because they don't trust the republican establishment in washington, d.c. a lot of them -- >> a really interesting document. >> a lot of them just checked the box, yes, i'm a republican. yes, i'm going to send to the rnc, or send to this group or that group. or i'm going to send to karl rove and i really do think karl

rove's failures in 2012 talking to these people it was the last straw. when they were like -- we're just -- not going to trust them anymore. the koch brothers two years ago basically said we're going to run ground operations filler out how do this because the republican party is a failure. fascinating, now the rnc, i think doing a pretty good job, them but they are being superseded by the koch network and only a matter of time before you see democratic group do this to the deancy just because this is part of the process, and you can say citizens united but the internet of fund-raising outside of washington, d.c. is making this the wave of the future. >> people focus on the raising, and there's little doubt because people believe they'll get to that number close to a billion. what matters, how do you spend

it? you can blow through on weak tv ads, ground game and have little impact. scaring smart democrats, after last cycle they've proven as an outside group they can do ground. if they improve -- >> mark halperin, talk about this. the percentage of candidates they picked and followed and put money on nationwide, not only in the federal level, on the state and the local level, frightening. >> massive. >> and now, of course it was a wave election a wave year if they'd done the best they could do in 2012 maybe be 50/50, but they -- it's all very very tough. >> the people who do metrics trying to figure what works. look at 2004. remember a bunch of liberals spent millions of dollars to try to get john kerry elected. tried to do ground game. failed. didn't get him elected. >> because kim mehlman did. did a better job. >> this is a group of people who understand you got to raise it

and spend it smart, not wasted on consultants, although they have plenty of those. that's what democrats may not be able to match. not just the money, how much raised, but how efficiently it's spent. >> look at charles koch there, dorian, the koch brothers split. i always find it interesting. they always so david. david, i know david. but charles, charles is a driver of this. >> true believer. >> sort of in charge of the seminars you guys were at and then david is more involved in some of the politics stuff. americans prefer prosperity which is their main grass roots group. >> but charles is what all my contributors early called a true believer. he's -- >> i think both are true believers. >> yeah. more libertarian than the conservative. talk social issue, can just see a wall goes up. it is a real sort of conservative/libertarian approach and they don't trust republicans in washington anymore than they trust democrats in washington.

>> but want a republican president. >> they do but make no mistake of this. if they get a republican president that spends as much money as george w. bush spent, they will consider that as big a failure as a democratic president getting elected. >> in fact joe, these events these seminars started in the bush years, as a reaction to the bush years. >> angry at what -- >> angry as karl rove and george bush for medicare part d, for the iraq war. >> that is one of the great misunderstandings here and why we were glad to be able to go and observe this. you're exactly right. this was born out of the distrust of the establishment republicans, the consulting class in washington, d.c., that spends, spends spends spends spends, on government programs. >> i thought the different programs they have had, the conversations they had, addressed really questions. ed the kind we address here at the table.

surprise to me liz koch ever met her? she's a ball of fire and got this incredible program for helping the poorest of the poor kids in several inner cities that she's developed -- i mean it's everything that you don't think, and you don't know. there are different facets of the story you get to see when you actually go and observe events like this. >> and it's like -- >> how do you know? >> it's the first time they opened to the press. >> exactly. >> she's fascinating. >> not conservative communists and such. >> which, byes the way, a great move having mika out there as a liberal, john carl very important. it needs to become more transparent and i think that's where they're going. >> political scientists for the last 20 years have been documenting the decline of political parties. >> yeah. >> and the rise of and we call it candidate center politics. we've seen these trends but this seems to be the mark of a new era you reported on nick. >> and often about money. what's hatching watching the

parties outsource a lot of expensive tasks like media and data to these outside groups that are loosely partnered with, because the parties can only raise money, $10,000, $20,000 a pop. if you can rain at $1 million a pop, found the outside group, it's very efficient. >> the start of a mccain/feingold in 2002. saw the rise of these groups before citizens united. this is long before that. >> two things to watch for. one, do any start negative ads against hillary clinton this year to pin her down? and the other, super pacs for the candidates. a lot of people at that event, what are they going to do adopting individual candidates and will they write $10 million,s 20ds million checks to super pacs supporting presidential candidates? that can make a bigger difference sooner than these groups do in the general election. still ahead on "morning joe" a troubles trend of recent threats against airlines. at least 16 online threats disrupting air travel in the past four days. how the fbi plans on handling

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all right. time now -- >> no no no. we can't just blow right into it. >> what? >> he's back from wearing his feather. >> you were so good. >> your peacock feather. >> that was a great performance.cock feathers. >> you were good at that. >> really a fun event. it was fun. it was a good time. >> ever thought about doing that, like full time? being on tv? >> they only hold it once a year so i can only -- >> the being on tv part being on every day? >> the tv. >> you'd be really good at that thank you. >> i loved it and i honestly -- i expected not to. you know how critical i am of the whole pageant thing, and you kept me going. >> good. i'm glad. >> so donald made a good decision having you there. natalie was amazing. >> here we go. look at that. shake it baby. >> oh, my lord. >> shake it don't break tvgts amazing. >> okay. so -- >> the happy stick helped.

the hockey stick. time to look at the morning paper. we starts at nbcnews.com. a full week of online threats against airplanes with at least 16 incidents disrupting air travel over the last four days. the fbi is saying that a flight from l.a. to chicago landed safely tuesday after receiving an online bomb threat from somebody who was claiming to be with isis. later in the day, more threats were posted on twitter to delta, southwest and american airline flights. and over the weekend, f 16 fighter jets were scrambled to atlanta's airport after bomb threats on twitter. a delta air lines flight en route to florida was grounded in dallas out of security concerns. and mika on monday threats against southwest airlines flights appeared on twitter. now, the fbi saying it's dealing with these incidences on a case-by-case basis, but obviously, very concerning. >> the "new york times," the government employee behind the

drone that crashed on the white house lawn monday is explaining exactly how it wound up there. >> he was drunk, actually. >> the man who turned himself in told authorities he been drinking before losing control of the device in bad weather. he says he was drinking at an apartment just blocks from the white house before testing out his friend's drone. >> oh. >> don't drink and drone, people! the man reportedly texting his friends he was worried it had gone down on the white house grounds before going to sleep. >> code for, he passed out. >> uh-huh. >> didn't realize what happened until seeing news reports the next morning and called his employer and the secret service immediately began cooperating the man wasn't named for the charge of the crime. >> it really is so important that people don't drone and drink. >> drone responsibly. >> yes. do not drone and drink. >> from the "wall street journal," when you thought apple couldn't get bigger the company announcing tuesday it shattered a previous sales record sells nearly 1 million phone in 2014.

over 40,000 iphones every hour boosting the company's profits to $18 billion. as for the next big venture from apple, ceo tim cook announced it would begin the apple watch, that's the thing that everybody's been talking about that they're hoping to capitalize on. springtime. coming out in april. >> the "new york post." tiger woods made headlines photographed with a missing tooth at girlfriend lindsey vonn vonn's ski event. back in front of the cameras in front of the phoenix open. did i say that right? >> way to brand a golf event. >> are they serious? >> no. can you believe that? >> it's a company. disposes of your waste t.it. >> does it's calmedled. you have sand traps of garbage. actually open -- >> that's not what it's called. >> open streams of sewage. >> stop it.

i'm not into sports. not just you guiseuyou guys. don't make fun of me. anyway, he got his tooth banchts it's not called the waste management phoenix open. >> figure out in the pro-am which hole. >> alex. >> get your golf ball it's going to have the hypodermic needle pap twist on that whole fro am get a hole in one, when a -- >> stop it. someone tell me what's it's called? >> waste management phoenix open. >> no it's not. >> i swear. >> long hole go home with -- >> keep reading. sat down with the media and talked about his tooth. >> okay. >> and the dude, video cameras on his shoulder, kneeling in-of-in front of me stood up turned and caught me square in the mouth. chipped that one, cracked the other one, and so -- then you know i'm trying to keep this thing on so the blood's all over the place, and luckily he hit the one i had the root canal on. that's the one that chipped. so -- but the other one had to

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closed ♪ you can stay in bed and sleep ♪ here i'll snooze and here i'll stay ♪ okay. we need to have him on. can we book him, joe? >> yes. >> that's mr. glendening from the moses brown school in providence, rhode island whose frozen inspired snow day went viral. he was good. >> he was great. >> really good. joining me co-hosts too, of "new york live" here on nbc here in new york. jacque reid and sara gore. i lurchove you. you have a good time. >> we like each other. >> doesn't that make a difference? >> it does. just like you and joe. >> yes. and working with you -- >> we'll not name names. >> isn't it different? it's hard. >> it's a different world. >> it really is. jacque reid a different world. >> you guys made it in the

snowstorm wasn't that bad. you had to camp out in the city. you tweeted from the carlisle? >> she lives in west k4e69or, i live in harlem. i made it home in time. >> jacque we're neighbors. >> live in a westchester crew. >> i was stuck at the carlisle. yeah. things could be worst. actually like a little vacation actually. my room at the carlisle. so beautiful there. you love the carlisle too. >> i do. that is one way to ride out the storm. >> yes it is. >> i don't think everybody had that experience. but, anyway. >> no no. >> let's go through some of the big sort of talky stories of the day, because i'm a little upset about this. i want to know what you think. mike huckabee who blasted me years ago, he did. he, like helped me turn my life around, gave me a blessing now says i'm trashy. >> really? >> why is this? >> apparently huckabee was asked on an iowa radio show if he experienced any culture shock after moving from arkansas to new york city and he mentioned

profanity in the workplace. >> are you a swearer? >> well -- i don't know. am i? >> profanity. >> oh, dear lord. oh dear lord! >> not talking about you, specifically? >> um, joe? >> wasn't talking about mika specifically. mika's a poster child. guys, come on. does mika swear in the workplace or what? >> dan? >> come on. everybody? >> ah sometimes. >> very -- >> what's the biggest violation? what's the go-to word? >> i'm sorry. she is -- she's got no problem with f word. >> let me just say we happened to have meeting after the show that i have to run, because sometimes joe can be a little frustrating, and sometimes dan and alex can be a little frustrating, and so i -- use -- articulate myself in a way that is quite strong. >> yeah. it's very -- ask your guests if they do this? because i don't think they do. >> do you curse? >> i their they're ladies. >> we don't curse in an aggressive way. >> more in a fun way.

when you make a mistake a. go-to phrase, it's four words. >> your son says it now actually, right? >> no. >> jacque's like, your son's going to swear. i use a son of a -- son of a gun. >> huckabee says it's totally inappropriate to say things in a professional setting, as we would say in the south that is just trashy. so i am a trashy woman. all right. we're moving on now. >> and lucky for it. right? a. woman in houston vowed to marry herself if she didn't meet the one by age 40. she didn't so she did. i'm confused. it's actually illegal to marry yourself in america. >> it's a spiritual thing. >> okay. it was a spiritual one. she married herself? >> had ten bridesmaids and went on a honeymoon. >> uh-huh. >> with herself? >> yes. >> i am a single woman that has not found "the one." >> how old are you? >> i will not say. >> she's -- >> wait.

are you one of those who don't say your age? >> i don't. >> why? >> i don't like to. it's my thing. >> is it trashy? >> no. it's not trashy. >> i'm 47. is that bab. >> and you look fabulous. you do. >> why do you feel the need -- >> i just don't like to say it. it's my thing. i'm from the south. i think it's rude to xa woman her age. you're already trashy so now -- now she's rude. >> i know better. joe, help. >> i celebrate that. i don't see anything wrong and did it tongue and cheek. not like a serious ceremony but if that's what's she wanted to do to celebrate her life. i have a girlfriend not married, no kids and had a shower when she got a new dog, a puppy shower. i came to your wedding, came to your baby showers and bought you gifts. ut better come to my puppy shower and bring gifts. >> jacque i agree. you know why? women feel really left out by life. if you're not married, don't have kids. >> you don't matter and it's not true. >> it's not true. >> it's not. >> especially in this day and

age, sara. >> i'm wondering. weddings can be very expensive, joe, chime? >> i feel left out too. let me ask you quickly meekika will give her age. gives her weight. steps on a scale and tweets her weight. would you all do that? >> that's unusual. >> i'm unusual? >> i won't. >> i don't know what i weigh right now. >> a lot of women don't like to tell their weight. you know that and don't like to tell their ages. >> it's weird. we have to get over this in respect is nothing rorng with whatever your age s. i wonder what mike huckabee would say? >> i think he would say, well -- i'm tell you, i think it sort of -- it's just like the woman who married herself. like, we've got to get over these hangups. >> be free about it. >> you know what? i'm not married. i still have a lot of value in the society. a lot to offer and i'm close to 50 years old and you know what? i feel good. >> i like that she loved

herself, didn't find somebody who loved her as much as she did, so celebrated that. >> i don't have kids. it's like children. everybody's celebrating mommy and me. those who dent have kids have meaningful lives. a lot of mothers say my life began when i had my child. well, my life began a long time ago and is still going. >> i'm kind of jealous of you right now. so there you go. on the kid thing. >> i lick vie caresvie caresly. and something that may have saved her job. saraize han the story from the new york stock exchange, coming up. they challenge us. they take us to worlds full of heroes and titans. for respawn, building the best interactive entertainment begins with the cloud.

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44 past the hour. still having fun? >> why are you so comfortable about your weight? i. got over 140, which i thought was good. women in my age bracket need to gain more weight and be comfortable with it and we look better with it. >> how tall are you? >> 5'6". >> if you gained five pounds from the 140 using comfortable? >> not if i got close to 150. wouldn't be right for me. >> would you say it? >> yes. absolutely. guys -- >> i gained weight after the second baby and didn't take it off and i was okay with that because i was, listen had two babies. >> i like it. >> i gained weight -- >> second baby. >> sara is this a funny conversation? >> no. i was hoping you weren't going to ask me my weight down there? >> how much do you weigh? >> i'm about -- likes 115 to 120. >> wish you hadn't asked -- >> but i'm short.

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♪ >> you want more? >> wow. yes. >> that's what they all say. >> i walked into that one. >> dear god. you know mika you put that thing in his hand and he like loses control. >> what's going on here next to me? >> she just likes the horn. >> oh my lord. okay -- joining us now is kenny g. and he's got this new album. >> sorry mika. i didn't mean fluster you. >> the grammy winning musician joins us right now like this. that's amazing. do another one. what do you want to hear joe? >> "girl from --" go with a big one. ♪ >> that makes the ladies swoon,

i bet. >> that's kind of good. >> kind of good. >> you like what you see, mika? >> i can't look at you. but -- >> just look at him. don't look at his horn. >> like this -- like this. >> was it bigger than you thought? >> oh, my -- >> i like him. >> sorry. >> he likes -- we like this side of kenny. >> kenny, we love having you on the set here but she has two kids. okay? two girls. all right? so enough with the horn jokes. i know it's the first time you have ever used that, as like a -- why don't we talk about another stick you like in your hand. you're a great golfer. >> as an amateur, not bad. i'm not bad. >> the top in music. right? >> "golf digest." >> that's cool. >> pretty cool. >> that is pretty cool. >> we've been talking about some things here and would like you to chime in. what is your age and weight please? >> why do i have to tell you that? >> you don't have to.

are you comfortable with it? >> high school i was really skinny, now up to 130 pounds. i'm not skinny anymore. >> what about the age thing? >> i'm 58. >> he's comfortable. >> men can do it jacque why -- >> just saying. >> you're comfortable telling your age? >> i'm 38. >> so? >> i weigh 116. >> am i the only one? i'm the only one. i'm standing firm. i'm not saying. >> i'm coming on your show and we're going to out you on everything, and everyone's going to love it. including you? >> my weight? my age, everything? >> yes, everything. back to kenny g. 35 million already sold. >> in one day, amazing. >> that is amazing. >> yesterday. >> you could be sitting on the beach golfing. >> i could be. >> what do you love? what drives you to keep going? >> i'm a sax player. i practice every day three hours because i want to get better. that's what drives me. i want to become a better saxophone player. >> how many horns do you actually own? >> this is the same one i've had sis high school. >> are you serious? >> this is my high school

saxophone saxophone. >> had it repaired or anything? >> needs touchups every now and then. >> that's incredible. >> no, no. >> used to be -- no. you got to take me out for a drink, then you touch the horn. >> does anyone ever touch it? >> this is off of "spine tap "al tap." kenny, most days your age, saw the beatles, ed sullivan, picked up a guitar wanted to be a rock star. you went in the opposite direction, sold 75 billion what drew to you that instead of the guitar? >> i saw a sax player and there with my mom. a sax player. not alive anymore. i said mom, i love that instrument. let's get one. started practicing, 40 years later, i'm on your show. >> do you know who? >> no. a big band stood up played a solo. that's a really cool instrument.

let's try that one i.. >> i have to admit when i hear your music -- his music -- i can't look -- i want to get out a glasses of wine. >> get in the bathtub. a bathtub full of bubbles, yes, and wine. candlelight u. can say that you can say your age. >> good good. >> yeah. i appreciate that. >> looking, we were looking through our notes, your whole 4ri689 of accomplishments in the in middle one of the original investors in starbucks. i thought, wow? >> how about that? >> they sell your cds? >> not just a pretty face with a nice horn. >> must have worked out for you? >> i was in seattle where starbucks started and my uncle was really involved in the beginning and said meet this guy howard shultz you'll become friends with him he's really nice. >> super nice. an amazing guy i. didn't know anything about coffee but watched howard give his presentation, talk to me. this guy's awesome. how much can i invest? i invested in the man. >> sometimes you go with your gut and invest in the person.

>> yeah. >> the album is "brazilian nights." kenny g. thank you. i think. do you want to play us out? am i saying something dirty and i don't know it? >>, no no. >> can you play us to break and catch jacque and sara on new york live "nbc 4 new york" weekdays an 12:30. i'm coming on the show. we'll bring in a scale. >> yes, you are. oh that does it for us. ♪ >> more on msnbc after a short break. ♪ i'm meteorologist bill karins. the pictures amazing, cleanup difficult today. up to 36 inches of snow. that's three feet reported in

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