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there. i just love that. i'm ready for the game right now. how about you? that's "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. >> thanks to you for tuning in. america's gearing up for the super bowl and coming up we've got a lot of the big game and on the big game including rev al's "politics nation's" super bowl party. stick around for that. hey, catch this one. we start with tonight's lead. president obama's going on offense against the republicans. the president is mocking the gop for trying to steal a page from his progressive playbook. >> my hope is that they join us. and one good piece of news is i notice that even though their policies is haven't quite caught
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up yet, their rhetoric is starting to sound pretty democratic. one republican senator who shall go unnamed but generally doesn't agree with me on much and he was suddenly shocked, shocked that the top 1%'s doing really well and everybody else is getting squeezed and we need to do something about it. and i welcome that. i consider imitation the highest form of flattery. come on board. let's go help out that middle class family. let's get something done. >> suddenly republicans are trying to sound like they want to play ball on things. throughout the obama presidency we've seen a tough fight in the middle of the field, with republicans playing a prevent defense, but now democrats are picking up territory, progressive issues are the ones in play and even republicans are talking about poverty and
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inequality. that's the kind of stuff they used to call class warfare. don't believe me just listen to the top republicans in their own words, then and now. >> the president retreated behind poll-tested rhetoric of class warfare. >> things are getting better but the point is who has benefited from this? this has been a top of the income recovery. the so-called 1% that the president's always talking about have done quite well. >> we're not going to engage in class warfare. the president is out there doing it every day. the improvement is fine for the top, as he calls them, the 1%, but for most americans, they're not seeing it. >> wow, the gop talking about the top 1%. the test now, will they back up their talk with action? >> i am glad that the rhetoric
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at least has shifted. let's now make sure that the policies match up with the rhetoric. let's make sure americans are able to upgrade their skills for higher wages. let's build the world's most competitive economy. let's make sure we're funding the things that we know help american families succeed. that's the smart thing to do. >> the biggest challenge in america today is the fight for fairness. it's time we move forward as a team. toward our goal. we can all be proud of. joining me now, congresswoman eleanor holmes norton and e.j. dionne from "the washington post." thank you both for being here. >> good to be with you. >> thank you, reverend. >> congresswoman, republicans are now playing on the democrats' side of the field and admitting income inequality is a problem. what do you make of this? >> well i can tell you what the president made of it yesterday and what the vice president made
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of it today. what we had was a combination of celebration and admonition. celebration of frankly the president's policies. admonition that democrats, the last election didn't always embrace those policies that we're celebrateing now. and we weren't chastised, but we were alerted particularly now that the republicans are pilfering our words that we should embrace what we stand for and who we are. >> e.j. what do you make of this? >> well since we have to use football metaphors today, is this a republican turnover? i mean are they switching sides in the class war? i think a couple things are going on here. first, they can't criticize the president any more because of the fact that the economy isn't growing because the economy has grown a lot over a period of time. they can't criticize him because
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unemployment is going up. because unemployment is down at its lowest level in many years. so they have retreated to the only thing that they can see as wrong with this economy, but it's very dangerous ground for them. because if they accept a progressive definition of the problem, inequality stagnating wages, the policies they want to put forward -- they still want tax cuts for the wealthy -- will not solve the problem they now say is the most important. and i think when one side is fighting on the other side's turf as that football -- as that chart you had up there suggests, it's a real problem for the party who is talking about the problem the other guy used to talk about. >> but it seems as though using football analogies, it seeps s seems as though congresswoman, they're trying to do a rhetorical interception, because president obama's been talking about
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inequality for years. now speaker boehner is using the same terms. listen to this congresswoman. >> a dangerous and growing inequality and lack of upward mobility that has jeopardized middle-class america's basic, that if you work hard you have a chance to get ahead. >> the president's poll sis have made income inequality worse. all the regulations that are coming out of washington make it more difficult for employers to hire more people chief amongst those are obama care. >> suddenly speaker boehner isn't attacking the president for talking about income inequality. he's accusing him of not doing enough to fix it. >> as is mcconnell. now, then of course the play has to be well what would you do to fix it. both the president and vice president drum down on
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middle-class economics. you'll hear these people talking about middle-class economics, too, because that's the theme of the day. and i believe that's going to be the theme of the year. i think we've got them on the offense. and that's what's important for democrats. this was a very upbeat president. i mean when he talked about iran, he virtually double d dared them to do anything about ien iran. he said two or three months isn't too much to ask. he admonished them that there's not one commander in chief, there's not one person who can negotiate this. this is not a president who wane holding back. you know biden never holds back. >> e.j., let me bring this in here because i want to bring this back to exactly what you and the congresswoman are talking about in terms of what's is action. because they admit income inequality is a problem now, but
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they oppose policies that would fix it. they oppose raising the federal minimum wage. the president's plan on free community college, enacting fair pay laws or closing tax loopholes for the top 1%. if their policies don't change is anyone going to buy this rhetoric e.j.? >> the answer is no. the only people who buy the rhetoric are the people who want them to use it to pursue poll sis that are-- policies that are exactly the opposite of inequality. they're saying let's go back to the policies of the bush years which were tax cuts and deregulation and those are policies that only deepen this long-term problem. but again, when they are talking progressive talk the standards they're setting up for themselves are impossible. if they're not for the minimum wage and for unions and better bargaining power for workers,
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how are they going to raise their wages? if they're not for investing in community colleges and other forms of education, how are they going to help people lift themselves up? and so it is a kind of setup, i guess a safety is the other football metaphor because they'll go back until they're in their own end zone. >> let me talk reverend al's talk, the come to jesus moment will be when the president talks budget cuts. let's see how they attack it. their version of the ryan budget is going to come out, too. and by the way, this time the democrats are going to go on the offense on budget. van hollen briefed us on what the democratic budget would be so that we're not just fighting their budget. we've got a budget to match theirs. >> the score doesn't count if you cross the wrong goal line e.j. >> that's why it's a safety. >> progressives have support on the major issues that the
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congresswoman talked about. 62% support the president's action on immigration. 77% say the federal government should fight climate change. and 78% says inequality is a big problem. 78%. so when you have the public with you and now your rhetoric has changed, if your policies don't fall in line this could be a huge political backfire for them starting monday e.j. >> all they got left is regulations. they can say, you know we're doing too much in regulation but what are you going to do -- >> right. >> -- on the economic field to advance the interests of the middle class not to mention the poor, by the way. >> congressman van hollen's budget there's a very clear proposal that says let's increase taxes on companies that don't raise workers' pay. let's give incentives to companies that do raise workers' pay in line with productivity. what are they going to make of
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that? that's a very clear proposal. >> we're going to stay tuned. congresswoman eleanor holmes norton and e.j. dionne thank you both for being here and enjoy the game on sunday. >> go patriots. thank you. >> coming up mitt's out, now what? new signs today that the gop's 2016 primary could get really, really nasty. also a surprising move by the judge in the aaron hernandez murder trial. and suge knight arrested for murder is in tonight's justice file. also we've got the calorie count on your super bowl menu. an inspiring message you'll see during the big game. and a major dilemma for seahawks star richard sherman. what does he do if his baby boy is being born on sunday? reverend al's super bowl party is ahead.
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today on social media, everybody was talking about their favorite storylines for the super bowl. josh tweeted about seattle star richard sherman whose girlfriend is expecting a child, quote, if richard sherman's child is born and he doesn't play i'll root for seattle. if he plays, i hope he gets burnt for four touchdowns. ouch. mila wrote, this deflategate is so ridiculous and funny. i like the nfl, but i think that the nfl hasn't been through enough scandals this season. jade says i can't wait to see
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the super bowl performance by katy perry. talk about all these stories and much more later in the show. but keep the conversation going on facebook and tweet us us @politicsnation. your mom's got your back. your friends have your back. your dog's definitely got your back. but who's got your back when you need legal help? we do. we're legalzoom, and over the last 10 years, we've helped millions of people protect their families and run their businesses. we have the right people on-hand to answer your questions backed by a trusted network of attorneys. so visit us today for legal help you can count on. legalzoom. legal help is here. good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables for only 50 delicious calories.
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thought into making another run for president, i've decided it is best to give other leaders in the party the opportunity to become our next nominee. >> and with that, the other 2016 hopefuls were falling all over themselves trying to say how much they liked the guy. senator rand paul said he hopes to work with romney. senator marco rubio deeply respects his decision. and jeb bush is looking forward to working with mitt. that may be but i'm not so sure romney's looking forward to working with jeb because a lot of people today are saying this seemed like a jab directed right at jeb. >> i believe that one of our next generation of republican leaders, one who may not be as well known as i am today, one who has not yet taken their message across the country, one who is just getting started, may well emerge as being better able
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to defeat the democrat nominee. in fact, i expect and hope that to be the case. >> jeb bush is part of a republican dynasty, not a new generation. he's definitely not unknown. and he's not just getting started. so who does it fit? who fits that bill? romney's reportedly getting dinner tonight with the other major establishment candidate, chris christie. so is an endorsement on the way for governor christie? and just how much does this shake-up change the 2016 race? joining me now is dana milbank from "the washington post." thanks for being here. >> good to see you, reverend. >> so dana it's no more mitt. how does that affect the rest of the field? >> well it shakes it up so dramatically it brings it back to where it was two or three weeks ago when nobody really thought that mitt romney was
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going to rub at all. he was doing a lot of me tooism there. he saw jeb bush getting all this attention, leaping to the front of the field and then said wait, what about me? he wanted to be that white knight. and clearly, based on the response that he got in conservative circles, they weren't interested in having anything about it. so it brings us to the status quo, and that is a jeb bush vying with chris christie for what's left of the sort of mainstream chamber of commerce republican vote and that will -- that will definitely help those two guys not to have to split up the pie even further. and so it will give both of those men some advantage over the conservatives, but you know the conservatives are still dominant in this party. and if they can settle their differences, then that's where the energy's going to be. >> you know recent poll shows that without romney in the race jeb bush is in first place, but rand paul and mike huckabee are
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not far behind. is this thing wide open? >> i think it is reverend even more than the polls suggest. the polls at this point are fairly meaningless. all it really is about name recognition right now. what's going to happen in this caucus, in the caucuses and the primaries is you're going to get sort of -- if it's jeb or christie it's going to be anybody but that. so who can the conservatives rally behind? and they may well go through a series of them as they did last time, as a question of whether the mainstream candidate can weather it as he did last time. >> without romney in the race there's a lot more conservative fire going to be aimed at jeb. listen to just from today what happened. >> i really don't like jeb bush for a variety of reasons. >> me too. >> we know what the message is. win without the base. somehow find a way to win by supporting amnesty for illegals
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and common core. that's jeb's message. >> pretty harsh from beck and limbaugh, isn't it dana? >> it's absolutely harsh. and you can see why they're concern there, and that's because this gives them a clearer path to the nomination which would be very disturbing to them. the very same thing that would make jeb bush a strong candidate in the general election is what infuriates the base his position on immigration, his position on education, and he's gone even further than mainstream candidates in the past like mccain and romney. and really taking on the base from the beginning and saying he's willing to lose some primary. so this is really a road that's really not been taken in the past. and it will be exciting to watch, you know if the republican party wants to have a future in 2016 and beyond they're going to have to find a way to silence the ted cruz wing of the party but they're a long way from achieving that
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silencing. >> dana milbank, thanks for your time tonight. have a great weekend. >> you too, thanks reverend. >> still ahead, the judge's surprising instructions to jurors in the murder trial of a former nfl superstar. but first, we'll tell you why sarah palin is being considered an honorary co-chair of hillary pac. gotcha is next. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more.
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challenges for the prosecution. prosecutors don't have a murder weapon but they say this video shows hernandez holding a gun. the defense says it could be a cell phone. or tv remote. the judge says prosecutors can now show the jury texts, the victim cannot show texts the victim sent the night he was killed. texts that claim to implicate hernandez. and the prosecutors say hernandez killed the victim after an argument at a club but the defense says that's a poor motive for a new father with a superstar sports career. how is this going for prosecutors so far in your eye? >> it's not going very well for the prosecutors, reverend al. in this case the prosecutor has to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he killed this man,
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and what the defense has done they've done a great job of showing that this is aaron's friend. they say that over 20 times in opening statements and throughout the trial, they say his friend, his friend in order to show a close relationship between aaron and the victim. >> you know, faith, there was another interesting moment in court today as hernandez's old team is about to play in the super bowl. listen to what she said to the jury before they left. >> i am not going to forbid you from watching the super bowl game on sunday. just have your antenna, you just be really really vigilant. you have to avoid anything that has anything to do with this case mr. hernandez, if you hear that word, you got to walk out of the room distance yourself immediately stop people. >> have you ever heard instructions like that? >> well no. and when is the last time you
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had someone who is on trial for murder recently just was let go from a team who is now playing in the super bowl the same weekend that his murder trial's starting? so there are all kinds of challenges in this case rev. and when people are watching the super bowl this weekend, you can bet the nfl doesn't want to talk about aaron hernandez during the super bowl and they're hoping the announcers don't mention him either. they want to stay as far away from this trial and aaron hernandez as much as they can and focus on the game and they're looking to do it during the super bowl. >> i would have asked for the trial date to be moved. here is the team that this man played for at the time of the murders who are playing in the super bowl. now these jurors who are in this area and new england patriots fans are going to watch the game. and i would believe that some announcer's going to mention the aaron hernandez trial. for a judge to assume that these jurors are going to walk out of the room cover their eyes and ears and leave, that's very difficult to do. >> they know he played for the
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patriots. that's not in dispute. they know he played for the patriots. >> that's part of the defense saying that's why he was targeted. >> yes, sir. >> but let me move on to another subject before we run out of time. i want to get to the arrest of one of the most controversial figures ever in the world of hip-hop. california police have arrested suge knight on suspicion of murder. now he's best known for starting death row records, joining forces with dr. dre, snoop dogg and tupac shakur. he was also in the car when tupac was shot and killed. but now he's in jail for a deadly hit and run. police say knight argued with two people on the set of a movie yesterday. minutes later, police say he backed his car over them then put it in drive and ran over them again. one of them died. knight turned himself in overnight and is now being held on $2 million bail.
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but his attorney says he was running from other attackers when he accidentally hit the men. eric, you're a defense attorney. how does this approach strike you? how do you approach a case like this. >> for the defense's version, i hope they have something on tape that for them something on tape that shows that someone was approaching the car and he had to jump in the car and escape danger. that is almost the only thing that can help him. because according to some of the witnesses' statements that i've seen, that suge knight ran over someone, then ran them over again. so he has to have one heck of a reason why he did that. >> now, you know, faith, knight is no stranger to the law, he served time for assaulting a rival rapper probation and parole violations and last year charged in a robbery. that case has not gone to trial. would any of that past affect this case? >> well, of course. he's being inging held right now $2
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million bail. and his criminal history is taken into account. when you look at this case there was some kind of argument that took place on this filming of his documentary about nwa rap group, but this incident takes place at a restaurant 20 minutes later. if you're going the assert an accident or self-defense kind of case it's kind of difficult to do that when you're in your car and the person who is run over is behind you when you put your car in reverse. this may be one of those cases where something finally catches up with suge knight. >> now, eric, one of the two survived. how significant could that be? >> it's extremely significant because that survivor can give the history of what led up to the incident. was suge knight threatening these men? was something said to them to make him afraid for his life? i do disagree a little bit with what faith said what judge faith said in reference to the
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car. if he feared that someone outside the car had a gun or they were going to try to pull him out, and suge is a big guy. it has to be something like a weapon like that where he feared for his life in trying to get away. >> and you don't call the police. so you drive -- if you're fearful, you drive away and you call the police. >> you have five seconds. these guys outside my car may kill me let me drive away. >> and he drove away and he never called the police. >> thank you for your time tonight. ahead, how many calories will america eat during the super bowl? plus a viral video with a serious message will play during the big game. and will the seahawks biggest star miss the game if his son is born on sunday? that's all ahead.
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witherspoon and thanks to all of you for being here. >> thank you, rev. we start off tonight with the most important thing at every super bowl party. the food! super bowl sunday is one of the top two days for calorie consumption in this country. the other is thanksgiving. this sunday americans will munch on 11.2 million pounds of potato chips during the big game. they'll also eat 1.2 billion chicken wings, that's billion with a "b." and, of course they'll all be washing it down with 325 million gallons of beer. on average, americans consume 2,400 calories and 121 grams of fat just during the four or five hours of the game coverage. is the super bowl a celebration
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of football or food? >> both! don't forget drink, rev. i do prefer to drink my calories and not in the form of beer. i prefer wine. but guacamole is my chosen favorite. i love the stuff. i can bathe in it to be frank. >> it's probably good for you. >> calorie ss is what we'll consume. a half cup of guacamole, seema's favorite -- >> yeah don't tell me. >> has 181 calories. that's not too bad. two servings of cheese nachos 549. six chicken wins are a whopping 710 calories. >> i'm surprised. >> three slices of pepperoni pizza, 939 calories. >> but the reality is this is like a holiday. we don't do this all the time. you eat like this you throw it down and drink what you want and go to the gym in the morning and work it off.
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that's my game plan every year. >> how many people really get to the gym? >> that's what i was going to say, i don't thing the problem is all the stuff we consume, i think the problem is the stuff we consume all the rest of the year. i know personally for me nachos are a major weakness. i also do love the buffalo wings. but on a special day like that -- >> it's a holiday. >> we're boosting the economy. >> what are you eating, rev? >> i don't go off my diet. i'll have my salad. >> oh my gosh. throw this at the rev. >> i'm very disciplined. but i will you know -- >> just enjoy. >> i will not infringe on anyone else. i don't make people feel guilty. it's a guilt-free sunday. >> last year, my daughter now loves the super bowl. she's 6 years old. >> good girl. >> last year i made nachos for her. and she told me it was the best day of her life. >> is that right? >> nachos home made. >> she literally said it was the best day of her life. so she's already talking to me
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about when i'm going to make the nachos. >> now, a super ad is getting a lot of attention. the procter & gamble company is always running viral videos of its like a girl video during the game. the original has been viewed more than 80 million times online. >> show me what it looks like to run like a girl. >> my hair. >> show me what it looks like to fight like a girl. now throw like a girl. >> aw. >> so do you think you just insulted your sister? >> no. i mean yeah insulted girls, but not my sister. >> my name is dakota and i'm 10 years old. >> show me what it look likes to run like a girl. throw like a girl.
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fight like a girl. what does it mean to you when i say run like a girl? >> it means run fast as you can. >> krystal, what do you think of the message this ad and what message it sends to girls and boys? >> the thing that i think is so powerful about this ad is we have all these gender and stereotypes that float around in our culture that people don't even think about. these are people that i'm sure don't see themselves as sexist and in many ways aren't sexist, but they've taken in this notion that to do something like a girl is to do it badly. i actually am talking about my daughter a lot on this show today. i actually did this with my daughter. i asked her to run like a girl and throw like a girl. it was just like these little girls. she didn't understand the concept of why that would be a bad thing. she actually watched monet davis in the little league world series and she said mommy, when a girl is on the team, she's
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usually the best one. >> there's that young girl from our home town of virginia who is now being sponsored to go to the super bowl by the redskins. and ipg she's a quarterback. and she's like 15 years old. >> oh that's cool. >> right. so i think that's the same thing. it changed the definition. >> bottom line is girls grow up to be women, they can do anything they can run countries, they can be bosses. this commercial just shows you that those stereotypes do exist. i kind of got emotional. it came out a while ago and resurfacing again but such a poignant timely message. your daughter watching the game should be empowered. >> she thinks she'll be the first woman in the nfl. >> more power to her. >> potentially big dilemma for sea haubs superstar richard sherman. sherman's girlfriend ashley moss is over nine months pregnant with their first son. she's due on february 12th, but the baby could arrive at any moment including this weekend.
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now, ashley's traveled to arizona to be there for the big game. but says that if the baby comes on sunday sherman should still play. krystal, if she goes into labor, what should sherman do? >> i actually think this is a tough one. i was thinking of like putting myself in their shoes. >> you have two kids. >> i have two kids. i would tell my husband to go to the game but i would want my husband to be the kind of person who would insist on being there. >> i have a son and hopefully he's watching right now. i can't imagine having missed his birth. you know. my career comes second place when it comes to my child. and this man already won a ring. he won last year. he's already been to the rodeo. he got the ring. if you get that call -- >> it's not a rodeo. it's the super bowl! >> i probably will get in trouble for say that but he should leave the game. >> no, no no no. >> it's his first child. >>.
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how do you miss that? >> if this woman goes into labor, nobody tell him. let him play the game. it's the super bowl. >> there will be another one. he's 26 years old. he could arguably go back next year. >> and he could have more kids. you have kids all the time. he's not playing the super bowl. >> they have sort of their interests at heart. she's said she doesn't want to tell him if she goes into labor. he said he definitely wants to know and be there. >> go do your thing, no i'll be there for the birth. >> don't do it sherman. >> say with me. we'll be right back with more of our super bowl party.
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♪ we're back with more of our super bowl party. back with me are krystal, chris and seema. so the late night comedians have been having some fun with deflate-gate. and last night jimmy kimmel found the guys actually responsible for the deflated footballs. >> i deflated those balls myself. i did it. i'm the perpetrator.
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>> i am the locker room guy. >> i am the locker room guy. >> i'm the locker room guy. >> i'm the locker room guy. >> i'm the locker room guy. >> take a good look, america, i'm the locker room guy. >> leave tom brady alone. >> tom brady had nothing to do with this because he was too busy being awesome. >> and those lips. >> amen those lips. >> it wasn't brady. >> unless he deflated those footballs with his piercing baby blue eyes. >> i think kimmel rounded up every bostonian in hollywood. chris, is this a story just made for late night tv? >> this is viral. they make these viral moments. this has gone viral. it's so timely. i think it kind of puts to rest a lot of the speculation around deflate-gate. sunday we'll still be talking about it if the new england patriots win people will be buzzing about deflate-gate and that's how they maybe got there. but he was brilliant to call on his friends. matt damon stole the show.
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>> do you think letting some of the air out of the ball so to speak? >> the seriousness of it? because you just keep wanting to say deflate, balls, deflate, balls, all night long. but it did take the seriousness -- so we could just step back for a moment before the big game and talk about something besides who's going to win and who's going to lose. >> it's definitely the scandal that launched a thousand dirty pun, right? more than spy-gate did. >> a thousand? seema did about 500 right here. letting animals predict the super bowl is a time-honored tradition. this year the porcupine is going with the seahawks. so are the penguins at texas zoo. apparently birds of a feather flock together. but gabby the sea turtle is going with the patriots. and bubbles the elephant -- >> uh-oh. >> -- is picking new england, too. we can't wrap up my super bowl party without asking for picks.
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so let's go around. krystal, who do you like sunday? >> well, steve kornacki has talked me into the patriots. i'll go with the pats. >> chris? >> no deflate-gate for me i'm going with the sea haubs. >> it's going to be the patriots. bill belichick and tom brady can't be beat. i got to do a shout out to my boys in bay ridge. they gave me the spread. i have a bookie there. now the spread is at one in favor of new england and it started off 2.5 in favor of the seahawks. i have a bookie. >> we'll check to see if bookie is ethical. krystal, chris and seema, thanks and enjoy the game. >> you too, rev. >> stay here until i can see if we have to turn you in. we'll be right back with a friendly bet between two big super bowl fans.
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we're just two days away from the big game. i spoke to two congressmen, jim mcdermott from washington and congressman michael capuano from massachusetts who have a friendly wager on the game. and i began by asking the new england fan to address the deflate-gate controversy. >> this was a full-sized football 15 minutes ago just before i walked in. for people who understand the weather, this is what happens when it's cold. the ball just shrunk right down. when can you do about it? >> that's a great comeback congressman can i can see why you got elected.
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why will seattle win? >> i think you saw against green bay the spirit and the strength and the perseverance of this team. everybody thought they were dead with three minutes and 40 seconds to go and they won. and i think that's been the spirit all through the season. it was last year as well. and i think you're going to see it again on sunday. >> congressman capuano, tell us why the patriots will win. >> first of all, they have more depth than they've had in a long time. a few weeks ago you saw them come down from not one but two 14-point deficits. they're a tough team a hard-nosed team. they just get down and do their work. this is going to be a fun game. >> let's get to your friendly wager. congressman mcdermott what are you offering? >> well we're going to give them some pike place market salmon and we're going to give them theo chocolate, they work
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with the locals and make the chocolate. and hilliard's beer and i'll give him a six-pack and i might throw in a sunny weekend in seattle if you like in the winter time. >> that's all you had to offer me was rain. we'll trade our snow for your rain right now. >> i bet ya. >> congressman capuano, what are you offering? >> well we have some great local chocolate as well dark chocolate is the best in the country. it's made the old-fashioned way, the ancient way from central america. certainly we're going to have to have some legal seafood chowder and to top it all off, nothing but sam adams beer. >> so there it is. this is what's at stake. a focus on food and drink. before we go ten seconds each starting with congressman mcdermott. what's the final score? >> the seahawks will win by a field goal by houseka, they'll
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bin we five points. >> congressman capuano? >> pats by ten. >> both of you enjoy the game enjoy the fun. we'll hear from you monday for the payoff. that's the show. enjoy the big xwamgame and be safe. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. [ applause ] raising arizona, next on "hardball." [ applause ]
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