tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC February 3, 2015 1:00am-2:01am PST
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felt like criticism and the gender politics had been listened to. it will be fun to see if we can listen to that. thank you, that is "all in" this evening. to that ad make you want to by panty liners more than before you saw the ad. >> i mortgaged my house -- it will all be watertight. thanks, you guys. thank you, amazing. anyone that wants to send me personal congratulations on the patriots winning the super bowl, because i'm totally convinced that i did it somehow. you can e-mail me them. see how my finger looks, i have a giant band-aid on my finger because i was really excited
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watching the super bowl while i was simultaneously grating cheese. that's why i have funny shaped band-aid over my finger. the republican candidate for president took a trip to london and it went very poorly. it shows exactly how poorly it went. this is the best summary of how that trip went in mitt romney is doing a press conference with the leader of the labor party. how do you think he feels about his visit with him at this exact moment. he appeared to forget ed's name. he repeatedly described him as
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mr. leader. no one knew what mitt romney was talking about. it appeared to the less that they thought his name was ed leader. and that is how he felt about it. on that same trip, he disparaged british preparations for the summer olympics. mitt romney cited his own experience with the salt lake city games and he saw a few things that were disconcerting. that prompted this response from british prime minister david cameron. we are holding olympic games in one of the bustest cities, it is different when you have them in the middle of nowhere.
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>> also, he was given a security briefing by the ni 6 which have is close to the cia here, but they are way more secret. they're never supposed to say the name mi 6 or admit that mi 6 exists. >> i appreciated the insights of the leaders here, and leaders of mi 6. >> that meeting whether or not was not on his public schedule. it was supposed to be a secret. he was not supposed to talk about it with reporters, and even if he found it too irresistible, you're still not supposed to say it was with the head of mi-6.
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officials that met with mitt romney told the daily mail that it was a total car crash, and they found him devoid of charm, warmth, humor, or sincerity. mitt romney just had a terrible, terrible trip to london. "the sun" summed up their take on him, mitt the twit. the headlines were terrible there and here. midrom new's olympics gaffe overshadows visit to london. mitt romney visits london while stumbling on almost every front. mitt romney's olympic stumbles in london. the trip of shambles, it started a hashal. hey, americans, this mitt person is some sort of american borat,
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right? it was just a terrible trip. it might have been his fault. you may remember just a few weeks ago, fox news became a real laughing stock when an expert came on and said there were special areas in london. the hashtag on that was fox news facts. the city is now being calling berming because ham is not lalal. they have a chain of fast food restaurants, burka king. jam jars across clinton are
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being radicalized. the british prime minister had to run in again saying that the fox news expert frankly i choked on my porage, this guy is clearly an idiot. fox news profusely apologized on multiple fox news shows with numerous hosts. what he said was not true. they said there was false claims about no-go zones for non-muss limbs in britain. i think it was bigger news when fox took a rare step and apologized for doing it. after that, literally the day after they started apologizing
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for this, bobby jindal, a man that wants to run for president in 2016, he went to london, danger danger, and he gave a speech about the no-go zones he believed were there, and even though fox news retracted it and said i'm sorry. bobby jindal apparently didn't know it. he went over there and gave a speech trying to revive it. now it happened again. it happened today. the pattern here is bad. if you're an person politician that wants to be president, think of london as a no-go zone. things started a little bit okay, chris christie went to a
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soccer match, there was some rhyme and reason. new jersey has always had a lot of health care industry. they had a good big chunk of the new jersey economy. so to attract trade interest, the state's governor would find a way to visit a manufacturer of a vaccine. he went to the manufacturer of a flu vaccine. while touring, he got to area the safety glasses and the lab coat. he looked very smart. all going well if you're running for president. there are good things about this. if you do that photo-op at a place that makes vaccines, even
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23 it is in another country, you as a candidate for president are going to get asked about vaccines and whether or not people should take vaccines. so you should probably have an answer ready for that inevitable question. >> there has been a measles outbreak by people not vaccinating their kids, do you think they should vaccinate their kids? >> we vaccinate ours. that's the best expression of my opinion. it's more important what you think as a parent than what you think as a public official. that's what we do, but i understand that parents need a measure of choice in things as well. that is the balance that the government needs to decide. >> parents need to have a measure of choice. chris christie may have wanted the story to look looking
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presidential abroad, him in a lab coat, drumming up business for new jersey. now it looks like he is supporting the super new trend of people not vaccinating against the measles. his office said of course people should vaccinate. by then it was a big story and not what chris christie wanted his trip to be about. this, today with chris christie was a big enough story over the course of the day, it was a big enough story when he was in london today, the story spread across the pond to the united states and seemed to have infected rand paul.
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after this story took off today other would be 2016 contenders should have known they would be asked. >> i'm not antivaccine at all, but particularly most of them ought to be voluntary, i was annoyed that they wanted my kids to get the vaccines, and i had them delayed and staggered overtime. >> i should have done that, i should have talked to you. >> i should have talked to you because you're a doctor after all. rand paul is not that kind of doctor. rand paul for years was a member of a conspiracy theory doctor's ocean called the association of american physicians and
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surgeons. sounds like a straightforward group, right? they pick names they sound upstanding. they say it is evil and immoral for doctors to participate in medicare, and that vaccines cause autism. the conspiracy theory group. here is rand paul talking to them. >> thank you very much for having me. katherine neglected to mention one thing. i have been a member since 1990. i think, it could have been since i was in medical school, but i know at least 1990. >> rand paul addressing the association of medical physicians and surgeons.
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she addressing them here in 2009 saying he has been in the group for 20 years at that point, maybe longer. the cdc said we're up cases of measles because people are afraid of the vaccine. today as chris christie had his london trip overshadowed, today rand paul who has a history of associating with conspiracy theorists, then there will be a follow up to that, right? he was asked about it again in a follow up on cnbc. look what he said when he was asked to clarify on cnbc today. >> i heard of many tragic cases of walking talking normal children who wound up with
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profound mental disorders after vaccines. >> senator rand paul of kentucky today really said that on cnbc. and he wants you to think of him as a doctor as he is running for president. senator rand paul until today was seen by some people assort of a top tier presidential candidate. honestly with this thing today, he totally pulled a michelle bachmann. >> a woman came up crying to me tonight and said her daughter was given that vaccine and her daughter suffered mental retardation as a result of that vaccine. >> that is pretty much the last michelle bachmann was heard of in that campaign. even the right basically said that was a disqualifing ignorant and dangerous remark.
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they said bachmann seemed to go off the deep end. she was duped into reporting a vaccine scare legend on national television. even rush limbaugh, what michelle bachmann did was too far. >> i'll tell you, michelle bachmann might have blown it today. >> he wasn't on to say, quote, there is no evidence that the vaccine caused mental retardation. that was the rush limbaugh show in 2011. this is not a partisan thing. it didn't used to be a partisan thing at least. it is not like climate change where scientists have said 2 and some don't believe it for political reasons.
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does it make sense in the internal logic of the right, if you deny the science on climate change, that at least gets you the koch brothers, right? they want there to not be any stepping taken to fight climate change. they will praise you in return for you denying the science of climate change. but if you deny the science on measles, what does that get you? what does that get you on the right? it started off today with chris christie being just the latest would be presidential contender that had a very bad day in london. this crossed back other to this side of the atlantic. this is now a wigger and worrying quo about whether there is a whole new and really important part of the scientific con consensus that republicans will start believing inside
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i have heard of many tragic cases of walking and talking normal children that had mental disorders after getting vaccines. >> when rand paul said that about vaccines, he also said this a couple moments later. >> the whole purpose of doing this is to bring money home, there is -- let me finish. let me finish -- kelly, shhh, let me calm down a bit here, kelly. >> calm down, kelly. hush. calm down. rand paul had a bad day in the press today, there was a bad day for more reasons.
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do you feel there should be a requirement that parents get their kids vaccinated. >> i know some families are concerned about the effects of vaccinations. the science is pretty indisputable. we looked at this again and again. there is every reason to get vaccinated. there aren't reasons to not. >> are you telling kids to get your kids vaccinated. >> savanna guthrie talking to president obama. he made those remarks this weekend. that clarity from him, that direct message, that is a very different message that we heard from republican presidential hopefuls chris christie and rand paul today.
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it is nice to see you, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> when governor christie said today that parents should be able to choose whether or not to vaccinate their kids. who exactly is he appealing to or was this a screw up? >> i think what he was doing there is i think he flashed back immediately to his last public health intervention where it was a complete debacle where he contained this new jersey nurse for a matter of weeks saying look, you have been to africa, we're not letting you out there. he was embarrassed after the way that unfolded. i think he overreacted to his initial overreaction.
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and he started thinking about the parent's choice movement, and anti-vaxers out there and he was not prepared for the question. and good for them by the way coming out and saying absolutely that is not what the governor meant, everyone should get the measles vaccine. >> are they a significant enough number, or politically partisan enough that republican politicians running for president want to court those groups? >> it is a very diverse group. it would be hard if a politician sat down and made the calculations of how can i win this small set of people.
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it is pretty difficult because the group of people, their concerns don't overlap a ton. a lot of them are not even voting in the republican primary, for instance. they're sitting it out completely or they are voting in democratic primaries. the only overlab here is the antiauthority, antigovernment, and antiscience benefit that you see around the climate change deniers that was generated and fuelled by the koch brothers. >> so chasing political upside here, there is also downside here. what rand paul said today was much choser to michelle bachmann. he is a long time member of a conspiracy group, does that potentially play poorly for him
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in mainstream politics? >> it does, and i think people are still going to get -- politicians are going to take that they should stick to climate change denialism. everybody has, not everybody, but a lot of people have children, everyone was a child at some point. no one wants measles or mumps, and it does play to rand paul's deeper weaknesses that he has a very consistent world view on the intellectual level. 90 to 95% of parents are vaccinating their kids, this is a small number, but it is a
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he had surgery to try to save the sight in that right eye. it is apparently inconclusive, but never the less, look, he was back on the floor today. he got a big welcome from his colleagues, a big welcome back. he is, quote, seeing more than he was before the surgery, but his eyesight has not fully returned. it is still day today whether or not he will be able to see. apparently it will not keep him from working as he fights back from that terrible injury. continued best wishes for your recovery. if you need something to be hopeful to help your recovery, my next guest can tell you a little hope about washington, that miracles can happen in washington.
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our multi-health wellness line. ♪ ♪ is. we have caught a unicorn. we found in the wild and captured tonight a thing that is not supposed to exist in nature any more. we found something in washington that is absolutely 100% totally nonpartisan and we found it in congress. i know, but this is the most nonpartisan thing imaginable and it is about to happen. yes, in our lifetimes. you may remember a few weeks ago we had a couple conservative texas republicans on the show. a mom and dad, and we had them on the show because of a powerful appeal they made to a conservative senator who was blocking the passage of a bill named after richard and susan's son. >> my name is rich selke and
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this is my wife, susan. we're conservative republicans from texas. what i would say to you is thank you for your vigilance over our budget, but this is an exception. if they had $22 million in the bank right now i would write that check. i don't have it, you don't have it, but you have power. all you have to do is not say no. all you to do is allow this bill to pass the senate today or tomorrow, hopefully by the end of the session. would you please do that? would you please do that for susan and for me and for clay, and for every other vet who has passed on or still with us and the valuable and precious children of god and members of our society. it's on your back.
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this is personal. please, please, please don't say no. thank you. i hope we have the opportunity to meet some day soon. god bless you. >> susan and richard sulke made that powerful appeal to senator coburn. he blocked the pill to the very end. when clay hunt's mom and step dad came on, i lost it on air, i could not properly finish the interview because i was very moved by the activism of their son. parents like the sulke's don't need some tv host getting worked up about their story. they're not asking for people to get upset.
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what they asked for and veterans asked for and got from every other member of congress got was a short specific gill to plug the gaps in the system that clay hunt went through when he got home after his deployments but he could not get the help he needed. a bill to fix those gaps. that's what those parents asked for in his son's name. now tom coburn is retired from the senate and that's what veterans are now getting. it is a 100% nonpartisan thing. the senate has changed to republican control. you might think that would change the politics about something like this, but on the veteran's committee, this is now new republican control sounds
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right now this committee. >> certainly when you have 8,000 veterans a year committing suicide, more than that have died in iraq and afghanistan since we have been fighting, this is a serious problem, this is emergency legislation. >> that is the new chairman of the senate veteran committee talking about a bill we thought would pass tonight. now it will pass at noon eastern time tomorrow. this small bill, this will pass tomorrow at noon and it will go to the president's desk, and it will be signed into law without a partisan whisper near it. senator isaacson is as conservative as they come. he sponsored legislation to abolish the irs.
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he climate change is not man made. he put out a statement saying president obama's budget is reckless and irresponsible. but on veteran's issues, you have a political unicorn. a mythical beast that does not have partisan colors on it. so this thing is finally getting done for clay hunt, his family, and for the 22 veterans a day still falling to suicide. joining us now for the interview to prove a miracle is at happened, it is the charge of the veteran's committee. thank you for being here. >> thank you, rachel, it is good to be with you. >>th senate vote on this bill looks like it is finally happening. we're hearing noon tomorrow, does anyone plan to block this bill last minute for any reason at all or do you think it will
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pass easily. >> i think it will be unanimously. to tom's credit we found an answer to tom's problem, we found money in the existing agency budget to pay for the bill, so everybody is happy. we're just happy that we're addressing when of the single largest byproducts of the afghanistan and iraqi war. >> do you think there has been substantive -- senator coburn put the hold on it, you addressed some of his concerns, i found remarkable that in putting that hold, he did not convince anyone else to vote against it with him. was there any objection last congress other than his objection? >> at that time i wasn't chairman of the committee, so i'm not sure i was aware of every objection, but tom was the most significant objection. i have a high regard for him and hit commitment. >> you said this year that the
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veteran's committee in the senate will be the most bipartisan committee in the u.s. senate. as chairman, as the man with the leadership responsibilities there, what do you think you need to do to make sure that happens? >> make sure that we understand our job is to see it that the people who voluntarily sacrifice and risk their lives get absolutely every promise they have been made by the united states government for their health care, education, and well-being. i'm going to be committed to that whether they're a democratic veteran, republican veteran, libertarian veteran, or a rachel maddow veteran, whatever it may be. >> do you think that bipartisan, a part of policy where being partisan doesn't smell right or feel right to anyone, could that extend to any other areas that the senate is working on as well, or is it a veteran's only climate? >> no, no, i don't think is veteran's only. certainly in terms of foreign policy and our battle with isis
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and terror, there is a number of areas we need to lock arms and do what is best for our country and our people. >> pretty much everyone agrees that the clay hunt bill is a start. i have been moved that his parents have been so articulate and so tireless in advocating specifically from the position of what their son went through and what he was trying to get and could not get in terms of his va care. i have also been moved by who was involved in creating the bill. what is the next step after this? >> the next step is going to be the accountability that this bill calls for. we get the reports that look at what the v.a. is going in terms of mental health follow through and find out where we can improve it even more. it is about improving and perfecting the follow through of
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mental health patients. it is a stigmatized affliction. people don't want to talk about it or share that people take their live. we need people in the v.a. who can identify the symptoms and the people having trouble, and follow them and track them along the way to help bring them back to good, solid mental health. >> johnny isaacson, it is great to have you here, i appreciate you doing it, if you tell the rest of the republicans it's okay to talk to me, i will send you a big box of chocolates. >> i'll tell them you're the greatest. >> if you go back and look at the transcripts of bernie sanders on the show, they're talking about doing the same things. it is happening on veterans issues. there is a place for real
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leaked information always gives you the best stuff. >> it is a trust about journalism, politics, and the news. the problem inherent in that truth is that stolen information, by definition, is a single source thing, right? it can't be corroborated or confirmed. but the combination of that fact that something is juicy information, we know the powers at be didn't want this information to be known, that can make us gullible when it comes to secret stuff.
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we're inclined to believe them even when there is no way to check whether or not we ought to. in the 1990, the united states government worked on our natural inherent belief in something because it is stolen investigation. they started to cook up the idea of using fake technical information as a dangle. it would look on the surface like it would help in the process of building a nuclear bomb, but in real life it would do the opposite. they decided to cook up flawed plans that looked real, and they would act like they were real stolen nuclear plans, so if they did believe in these stolen documents, put them into effect and into action, they would thereby set back their nuclear program in a way that was hard
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to fix. so the cia had a nuclear scientist on their payroll. they drew up these plans that had the secret flaw in them. they thought the iranians wouldn't be able to spot the flaw. and they sent the russian intermediary to shop the flaws to iran. and that's where it went wrong, because the russian scientist guy did give the iranians these plans for their nuclear weapons, but the russian scientist guy also told the iranians where the flaw was, where the wrong part was. so this supposedly genius plan to set back iran's effort to build a nuclear bomb, it might have actually helped iran progress further on the nuclear front.
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because once they knew to avoid that flaw that had been deliberately placed in the plans that the russian guy tipped them off to, once they worked around that flaw, the plans were helpful in building centrifuges which they needed for their nuclear program. this too-clever by half plan, turned out to backfire, turned out to help the people that the u.s. was trying to hurt. so, okay, try again. that happened in 2000. in 2010, this time, it wasn't fatally flawed plans that they were going to try to shop to the iranians. this time it was a piece of software. in 2010, the u.s. managed to get a computer worm into iran's nuclear program, basically a piece of software that iran didn't know had been introduced into their computer system. but what it did, when the worm went to work it caused iran's nuclear centrifuges to spin out of control and break. the iranians didn't know why their centrifuges were spinning out of control and breaking. they just knew something was very wrong, something was so wrong that it was physically busting up some of their most sensitive nuclear technology.
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so of those two plots, one of them worked, the computer virus one, one of them did not work -- the almost good, but secretly flawed centrifuge plans. of but ultimately, when each of those stories came to light, the biggest burst of drama against each of those cia plots against iran was how come we know about this? how did these secret actions against iran become public knowledge? in the case of the computer work, iran eventually knew that a computer worm was behind the virus, but it's not clear whether the u.s. was still reaping rewards behind iran not knowing what was behind it. was the u.s. still benefitting from it? the times took tons of heat from it.
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senator john kerry questioned whether the story served the country's interests. a leak investigation was called for. the other, that story had been spiked by the "new york times" as early as 2003, before "new york times" reporter james risen decided to put that reporting on his book "state of war." you might have seen someone convicted of leaking classified information to a reporter, that was this case. sterling could be facing decades in prison for that leak. so these stories about our spy craft are as fascinating as spy novels are.
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they are incredibly controversial. but now we've got another one. this one happened in 2008. washington post pub learning this scoop this weekend about how the cia and israel's mossad worked together to assassinate the leader of hezbollah. the cia and mossad worked together for months. they used facial recognition technology to confirm it was his. then as cia agents monitor on the ground, a bomb was detonated that was hidden in the spare tire of a suv. in order to make sure the bomb was big enough to kill him but small enough to avoid hurting anybody else, the cia had tried it out at a facility in north carolina, blowing up about 25 test bombs in the process. once again, these incredibly dramatic, larger than life
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details about this plot fascinating but also, real interesting questions about why we're learning this now. who has told the washington post that this happened? is this somebody bragging? essentially telling a war story because they want the news agencies to get credit for doing something we wouldn't otherwise know about? is this leaked for a strategic reason? as we're in the middle of discussions with iran? is this designed to help those talks with iran or hurt those talks with iran? the washington post deserves credit for the scoop, but the fact that it's their scoop and it's about a super-duper secret operation, makes it impossible for us to interview them about the situation. and it raises problems for us as a country about why this story is being made known now and by whom and why. what is the effect of telling us this thing we never knew before.
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beautiful results™. happy. happy groundhog day. there's controversy. punxsutawney phil is our nation's groundhog of record. phil came out, saw his shadow and announced there will be six more weeks of winter, but also around the same time we got the opposite news from staten island chuck. he did not see his shadow, nor did anybody drop him and kill him this way. chuck is not as famous as phil, but today the staten island groundhog delivered better news than phil did. this is the tiebreaker. this is wisconsin's jimmy with the deciding vote. >> he says -- >> ooh! >> jimmy! sun prairie, wisconsin groundhog bites the mayor really hard on the winter.
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tetanus shots all around. bites mayor really hard on the ear. which, i checked the rule book means that winter is now over on principal. tetanus shots all around. good tuesday morning, everybody. right now on first look a winter storm brings heavy snow and dangerous driving conditions to the northeast. backlash as new jersey governor chris christie weighs in over vac evens. a people commute over the estate of robin williams. plus a man's daily 21-mile commute on foot. and jimmy fallon kicks off his week in l.a. with a new brian williams rap. good morning and thanks for joining us everybody. it is the winter that just will not quit. right now, a new threat to tell you about. subzero temperatures turning everything to ice and a massive st
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