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welcome back everybody. check on the day before. the senate armed service committee is set to hold a we know patriots fans will be out in force to celebrate their big win. >> that will do it for way"way too early." morning joe begins in a minute. stick around. >> good morning, news day, we have several stories developing right now. there was a fiery and deadly train crash last night just a few miles north of us in new york city. here's the daily news. horror fiery nightmare and that was during the commute. also a horrifying plane crash
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that was actually caught on video in taiwan. we will be getting to that too. it's just horrifying. and isis taking its brutality to a whole new level as a captive is burned alive. mica, there is a lot of news and let's, why don't we start right here in new york? >> all right. we'll start with the train crash. several people are dead this morning after a commuter train passing through west chester county, new york. crashed into an suv as a railroad crossing on tuesday night. last night t. packed metro north train was speeding through the town at rush hour when it slammed into a black jeep cherokee. the driver and six people on board the train were killed in the crash and a dozen more were injured. joining us now from valhalla new york, national correspondent kate snow. kate what's the very latest into how this happened? >> reporter: mica good morning. you know the ntsb and federal
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investigators have been here all night. they're trying to get to the bottom of what happened here. but as you say, this is one of the busiest commuter rail lines in the country. this train was speeding home. taking commuters from new york city up here to the disturbs when it hit an suv. now, it sounds like the suv crossed onto the tracks. the woman was driving. she got out when the guard, the gate actually came down on top of her suv. so she got out of the car to check out what had happened. she was stuck between the gates on the track, then got back in her car. tried to move forward. that when the train hit her t. train pushed that suv for about a football field in length. so the hundreds of feet it caught fire the suv did, and the first car of the train, you can actually see it behind us here completely engulfed in flame. people on board that train, there were 600-plus passengers on board mica they described it as a harrowing scene. you can imagine, the smoke
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filling the train cars in the front. people trying to get out. breaking windows, trying to escape. as you say, six people on board the train were killed including also the driver of the suv, so seven people total killed. this is a train rail that come under a lot of scrutiny mica over the past. they have had several accidents over the past few years. you may remember there was a big one in 2014 that killed four people. so i think there will be a lot of questions of what went wrong, whether it was the driver's fault or whether it could have avoided her in anyway. >> this is a train ride familiar so so many thousands, headed north to go home to their families in the suburbs. there are some reports this morning the third rail actually may have been ripped free and come up through the first train. have you heard about that? >> reporter: yeah that's right. last night we learned that electrified third rail that you hear about actually pierced through the first car of the train. so that made a bad situation even worse. willie, i took this train last
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night to go to my house. not the same line. it makes you think one person tweeted. he got off. he survived the train wreck. he said i want to go home to my wife and kid. it makes you realize anything can happen. >> all right. kate snow thank you so much. we go now to abc correspondent rehema ellis. what's the latest this morning? the hospital is right there where the crash happened. >> they are. i can tell you it's a night of high anxiety for families waiting to hear more definite word about their loved ones here at this west chester county facility. i will have my cameraman a little bit. we went inside the hospital. we can see that there were family members waiting in the waiting area for word on what exactly was going on. we have been told again that 12 passengers were brought here. ten of them were said to be seriously injured. we are hoping to get more word
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when the sun comes up exactly what the nature of those injuries are. the governor even was on site and he said this is a tragedy, but we have to remember that there were also hundreds of people who were able to walk away from this crash. back to you. >> it's a horrific scene. a number of us weresmelling the fumes from the car. we said we need to get out t. fire was starting to spread back to the second car. >> it wasn't panic. people were saying "stay calm. bother people were getting more and more anxious. that when we started to get the mortgages doors and windows opened. >> the train came to an abrupt stop. there wasn't aannouncement that the train struck a vehicle. that was about it. well at that point people started moving towards the back of the train. people were saying they smelled gas in the front car. >> it will be just an impact. we didn't really know what.
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i felt like the train actually jammed on its breaks really hard a couple of times and then there was a lot of scraping. >> meanwhile, there is another air tragedy to report in asia. this time in taiwan where at least 13 people were killed after a commercial jet crashed shortly after takeoff this morning, incredible horrifying video, actually. authorities say the transasia airlines plane clipped a bridge and crashed into a shallow river. vacate passengers and crew were on board t. rescue mission is still under way. here's the video now. officials say at least 28 people have been found alive so far. 31 of the passengers were from mainland, china. others from taiwan. joining us now from beijing. ian, good morning. >> good morning, joe, well that dramatic footage was shot from a dash cam of a parting car which
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itself only just missed the aircraft. it came down almost on its side collided with that flyover before careering, cart wheeling into the river. now, what's not clear is whether the pilot deliberately tried to make it into the river. he managed to make his way by a couple of apartment blocks there. the aircraft was a french built atr 72 with 58 people on board. now, this evening, it's dark now in taipei and that search for survivors continues. the fire chief of the city has confirmed that 16 people are dead but they're still looking for another 14 who are unact accounted for they're looking for ways to bring the fuselage to the end of the river to make those rescue efforts easier or get a pontoon out to the aircraft. now the way it landed means that it's upsidedown in the river. they believe those still inside
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the fuselage were at the front of the plane when it crashed. now, horrific scene captured by the dash cam. i'm not sure what might have caused it. there is a suggestion tonight of perhaps engine failure. a recording has emerged, purporting to be the pilot saying mayday mayday engine flareout. but that can't be confirmed at this stage. hopefully, we will know soon joe. >> abc's ian williams thanks, so much. at least 28 people have been alive, which is incredible. based on what you see right there from a moving car on the highway that 28 people survived. >> after moing car on the highway, when you see the apartment buildings right there. the pilot lands it in the watt. i don't know it could have saved a lot of lives. >> all right. jordan is making a strong statement overnight after islamic state militants apparently burned alive a jordanian pilot held hostage. two al qaeda convicted prisoners are dead after they were
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executed by hanging one is the iraqi woman who jordan was willing to release in exchange for that murdered pilot. the reports of the pilot's gruesome death triggered demonstrations across jordan to demand justice and revenge. >> let's bring in right now the chief foreign correspondent richard engel live from i istanbul. we were talking japan for the first time since 1945 actually had a prime minister making an aggressive statement, talking about how they were going to seek reven him, seek retribution. now you have jordan up in arms. it really is remarkable how isolated and insulated isis may be world wide right now. but yesterday, they certainly took their horrors to a whole new level. >> isis has no interest in winning friends outside the region. it is operating completely on it own objective. it believes it is establishing
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this idealistic islamic stailt state that has been condemned by muslim leaders. particularly today they came out strongly against this disgusting video. all of the isis videos have been disgusting, beheadings. the torture, but this one went beyond i think even the standards that isis had set for itself. the jordanian king who was in washington has now arrived back in jordan. he was received at the airport by several 00 people. some of them holding photographs of the king and there has been a lot of support so far for the monarchy. >> locked in a metal cage doused in fuel the young jordan wasn't pilot moments before being burned alive. the most savage act yet from a group known for its shocking brutality. in jordan relatives could fought contain their disgust and
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grief and fury. the pilot was first leiutenant mouz kasselbe. he was cap clurd the day before christmas after ejecting on a mission to attack isis in syria. a part of the u.s.-part coalition. jordan's king abdullah a close u.s. allie before cutting short his washington visit. earlier on jordanian television he called the murder cowardly terror by a group with no relation to islam. president obama said the killings intensifies his determination to fight isis. >> should in fact this video be authentic, it's just one more indication of the viciousness and barbaric this organization. >> reporter: and that woman who is on death row in jordan according to jordanian
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officials, she has been executed along with another convicted al qaeda militant this morning. their executions being carried out just before sunrise in jordan. jordan officials say it is likely that four other al qaeda members, all of them held in jordanian jails will also be put to death. >> all right, nbc news' richard engel. thank you so much from washington. we have david ignacious. david, you know this reminds me so much of the excesses in vatican by zawakari who was the most powerful man terrorist, he was building this death cult which, of course isis has based so much of their ideology around and then he bombed as you know i'm just reminding everybody else that is watching he bombed a jordanian wedding and suddenly
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people in anbar province people across crosswalk u iraq. people across the middle east said that's not us. and it really was a turning point. that was a turning point as well. we see these images out of jordan. we hear the japanese for the first time since '45 talking about reven him and willie was just saying it i mean it seems they have a death wish. what do you make of the latest horrors and how long before this catches up with isis? >> joe, i think you put it well. you talked about a cult of death, almost a theater of violence for this group. these are young people. they have been living a video life. that how they're recruited. they're doing things creating a level of violent action that we just haven't seen and it is
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beginning to really make people in the arab world angry. what was strikeing to me about the killing of the jordanian air force leiutenant was this was a man from a tribal culture of jordan. if you look at pictures of his relatives these are simple jordan annianian jordanians. in this world, there is a code of revenge. if you kill a member of my tribe, if you do injury to my group,ly come after you with everything i got forever. you saw that look in the eyes of members of this family immediately the jordanians moved to execute two people they are holding. they will probably execute more yesterday taurking to jordanian officials here if walk they weren't sure what the public reaction would be when people saw the videos. they say oh this is terrible. this isn't our fight.
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let's pull back. there was some fear they might say that or would they get really angry. it turned out to be the latter. i think that islamic state has in this case really kicked over a hornets nest with severe consequences for them for some time. >> i agree completely. let's bring right now nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent and host andrea mitchell reports. andrea, you have been reporting about an american woman held hostage by the islamic state militants. what can you tell us? >> reporter: well, there is very little we can report because of sensitivitys, but this is a really challenging case for the u.s. it is top of mind to the president he spoke about it to savannah guthrie earlier this week. the fact is that she's young. she went to syria. and she has been captured by isis since august of 2013. a 26-year-old american woman working for aid organizations
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trying to help the war's millions of refugees taken hostage a year ago august. her name hometown and organization are withheld at her parent's request. but always top of mind for the white house as the president told savannah guthrie this week. >> what is being done to help ler? >> we are in close contact with the family trying to keep her updated. obviously, this is something that is heart breaking for families and our obligation is to make sure we can do anything we can to try to make sure that any american citizen is rescued from this situation. >> reporter: but isis has wiped out borders, forcing the u.s. to rely on murky contacts and often unreliable foreign intelligent service, the only positive sign. isis never acknowledged capturing the aid worker and executing a woman on camera might be deeply offensive to isis followers. >> as brutal and unpredictable as isis is they are not intent
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on killing female hostages. >> reporter: that is the hope because of her gender because she hasn't been put on camera that she, perhaps, is not in the queue, not in the line to be killed and somehow this woman can survive. the family and the white house are working very closely together and hoping that she will escape the fate but, obviously, there are huge concerns after the incredible brutality of what happened to the jordanian pilot, what happened to the japanese and as you were just discussing with david ignacious, it looks from the reaction in jordan and it was not clear even 48 hours ago if the pilot were to be killed how this would reflect on the king and his authority. but it seems to have so revoltd this very important tribe and the spirit in jordan right now is certainly turning pro-monarchy and as king abdullah arrives home having cut short his visit, visiting with president obama just before talking off from washington last night. it seems they are rallying around. he will be making condolences to
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the family today. >> and again, it is again, mica thank you so much andrea. it shouldn't be surprising. again, you go back to the jordanian wedding, al zawakari blew it up. it's whether it's al qaeda, whether it's isis at some point this event greatly offends the very people they are trying to persuade in the middle east and it's i think it's -- >> it also seems they have a death wish or they have taken this life that they were negotiating. >> i think they do. japan who is seeking retribution, yeah they don't have a military they can do that. they've got billions and billions of dollars, you know they may spend now in helping in the fight or contribute anyway they can. and, willie i want to go back quickly, somebody may have heard
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andrea's reporting, these people set a man on fire why wouldn't they kill a woman on tape? you remember leading the horrifying report of the paris attack "charlie hebdo." there was a woman there. the guy said hey, hey, don't worry, we're not going to kill you, you are a woman but you shouldn't be hanging out with these guys. it's bizarre, obviously, a set of ethic am standards. >> it's a bizarre standard. are you right. they have stirred a new passion in the muslim world. when you listen to the pilot's father, i think he spoke for the people. we should seek severe revenge for my son for the organization far from islam and the people of islam. david ignacious, i put the question to you now, what does this change this horeb risk innocent now the entire world has seen in the fight against isis? we have the united states which jordan was a part. which is why the pilot was captured in the first place, now you are bringing japan into it.
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does this escalate things and clang the united states' aggressiveness in the fight? >> we'll have to see about the specific military tactics, but, certainly, this begins to answer the biggest question that policy-makers in washington have had, which is are the arabs really in this with us all the way? are they prepared to mobilize their own countries? because this isis threat will only be pushed back if the muslim citizens of jordan say, enough. we oppose this group. i am reminded of something oddly enough that was said by al qaeda's leadership when zarkawi was burning so hot in jordan a decade ago and they warned that bin ladin, himself, warned you are going too far. you are making people angry. you are killing muslims. you are turning people off. bin ladin got so upset about this violence in iraq that he wondered whether they should
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change the name of the organization from al qaeda. so you do get these tipping points where suddenly public opinion switches and switched against al qaeda back then. i think we may be at one of those moments now. >> david you are right. again, i keep talking about the jordanian wedding. that was one example. there were several examples with zawahiri, bin ladin's number two, he kept reaching south saying this is not what you will do, this is not how you will conduct yourself, this is going to turn the middle east against them. for anybody that knows zawahiri's history and bin ladin's history, he was another tipping point. remember the luxor terrorist attack against tourists some japanese in egypt and islamic terrorists slaughtered these tourists. they expected an uprising. instead, they got revulsion from muslims and middle class
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egyptians and i remember this shocked actually the terrorists and it actually happens again and again. it happened in iraq. now it's hang again with isis. >> the terrorists in isis are in their own cult. they come back to the word you used. they are fought seeing reality in the way that people normally would. and they continue to conduct acts that shock the conscience in this case of the arab world, one of the most telling statements overnight was from a leading fundamentalist muslim scholar in jordan who said this pilot was a muslim. his family was muslim. killing him was unislamic and when a leading sheikh says that that's important. >> david ignacious, thank you. andrea mitchell thank you as well. still ahead on "morning joe," we
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have the horrors of isis as the comparison the worst faces of evil are starting to be made. we will hear from senators john mccain, tim kaine and joe manshin plus the great barry manilow will be with us for a big announcement. up next, a mysterious death of a prosecutor in argentina, we will go live to a report. >> it actually involves iran and israel. >> an incredible story. also lance armstrong really you are watching morning "ing "morning joe." we'll be right back. there's confidence. then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts mean your peace of mind.
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>> there is a new twist this morning in the mysterious death of a prosecutor in argentina. the lead investigator into alberto nisman's death, he
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drafted a warrant for the president t. 26-page document was found in the garbage of his apartment. they claim he helped iran try to cover up the bombing of a jewish community center in buenes aires two decades ago where 85 people were killed. architect tina's foreign minister is named in the warrant. both officials have denied the accusations, nissman was found dead hours before he was scheduled to testify to argentina's congress before the case. >> that is absolutely unbelievable mica. >> he had a gunshot wound to the head. officials are still investigates if he was murdered or committed suicide. >> yeah, whatever. again, it is straight out of a novel. >> it really is. >> you actually have the president of the country about to be indicted covering up hours from having testifying and he's put together actually
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an indictment that suggests that she helped cover up a bombing of a jewish center for iran. >> so we have through skype from buenes aires a foreign correspondent jonathan gilbert, who is covering this story. jonathan, what more can you add to this? it looks like almost a horror movie. >> reporter: yeah, it's a very complicated case. the president is implicated in this case to the federal prosecutor filed and his death, that's all we know. we don't know the consumer side if it was murder or induced suicide. government authorities point the government saying that it was a cover-up and the government point to a plot against it perhaps involving the intelligence services intelligence service. i think the important thing, the important thing as you noted,
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investigators found in the structure in his apartment, a draft and he wanted to arrest the president and the foreign minister. this is already a huge scandal in argentina. had he requested the arrest it would have been an unprecedented scandal. those were the words used to me by a political activist at the end of the scandal. there has been a whole sort of conflict surrounding arrest the request of the arrest. whether it was actually happened or didn't. in the end, we found out there was a draft document. >> unbelievable. >> jonathan gilbert, thank you so much. >> do you believe that? >> that's an incredible incredible story. the prosecutor in this report came out like 300 pages and while maybe not quite a smoking gun, boy, it's close. if intercepted conversations
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between the foreign minister of argentina in a meet income syria with a representative of the iranian government almost explicitly saying we will push this aside if you give us cheap oil. it's an incredible story. >> are you kidding me? >> yeah. >> it's unbelievable. >> now to the debate over vaccinations which is continuing to shake out among potential candidates for 2016. new jersey governor chris christie cancelled three press conferences the day after he drew headlines calling for a balance on vaccinations. it was the final day of his trip to the united kingdom that the daily mail calls quote "disastrous." and senator rand paul is backtracking from his comments that he was aware of normal children developing disorders after vaccine, he says they are only temporarily related and believes vaccines can save lives. senator paul also tweeted out this photo saying ironic today i'm getting my booster vaccine. i wonder how the liberal media will misreport this.
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>> actually we just ran the video. >> he says he didn't say that. >> i don't think it was liberal media. think cnbc very few people willie, come to cnbc to be liberal media. >> i don't think so. >> i think he can blame tv if he wants to that's sort of a dead end. >> i think his complaint was he was a vaccine truther. i think what he said on cnbc vaccines are one of the great advancements in human history. i don't believe the government should force people to get vaccines. >> right. he also talked about healthy children getting vaccines and developing complications. you can try to walk that back if you want. i mean you know. >> he says he doesn't say it. >> let's get more joining us from capitol hill "new york times" reporter jeremy peters. what? >> did he say that or not? did he say that he knew
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perfectly normal children that had gotten vaccines and then had all of these complications or not? >> he said he had heard of them when interviewed on cnbc. i think what that led to is because he didn't finish the thought as he admitted to me in an interview yesterday, he could have chosen his words more carefully, but what he did say yesterday in a lengthy interview with him, i got a chance to speak with him about exactly what his views on vax nations were and he said look all of my kids are vaccinated. i believe every child in america should be vaccinated. but this is an odd topic in which rand paul's libertarian views kind of overlap with his, you know scientific views as a physician and in this case his views went out and with measles on the rise, it's a very
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. >> we have june meachohn meacham and when it comes to ilam 39% of republicans believe the faith is inherently violent. 13% of democrats say the same. on the other hand, 33% of republicans say islam is an apparently peaceful religion there are some that justify violence, 81% of democrats agree with that viewpoint. now, hunt we've seen the twists and turns of what isis has been doing internationally impact barak obama's policies after the beheading of an american journalist and i suspect that what happened yesterday is fought only going to impact what is going on here. as david ignacious says impact
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politics in the middle east. >> it has to joe. who is interesting about the poll though is before the horror that we had about yesterday occurred but the context was the isis atrocity the terrible killings in paris, so there was a lot front and center while this poll was taken. on the one hand i found it interesting a sizable number of republicans says islam is a violent religion. let's look at the context. there have been a number of people who attacked islam. newt gingrich attacked chris christie. there was the flap about the mosque in lower manhattan. so few look at it another way the fact that republicans, very conservative republican that's what iowa caucus governors are, say it is inherently peaceful. it was some with twisted
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teachings. >> very rarely do you have foreign affairs have such a direct impact. obviously, we go out to 1980440 day hostage crisis really turned that entire election more than anything. i just wonder what is going on here with isis, with death cult mica is going to read in a second. whether we aren't looking for another election and to go back to earlier 1980 the soviet invasion of afghanistan which came when governor reagan stumbled in iowa. he came out in blockade of cuba. >> it's interesting, you have the panama canal which most foreign policy experts support it. reagan took a stand against entering to panama. there was one alleged sign of
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weakness after another. we are analyzing this the same thing now. he talked about making a series of mistakes republicans believe. i wonder whether it doesn't set this election up 2016. >> and i'd argue that it even makes it more immediate in the politics of the caucus bus of the videos because of the immediacy of the attacks, two presidential questions will someone keep the country safe? can they produce the conditions for economic growth? it will be at least half the questions there this is from the national journal, george packer writes in the "new yorker," a death cult an army sorry the "new yorker." the barbaric burning alive which leiutenant al kassasbeh by isis makes no tactical sense. nor does the release. the organization stated they did
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it to gladden the hearts of the believers as a morale booster. in the end, it's to hold them to the expectations of other groups, the point is not to achieve limited goals. the violent is the point. the worse the better. the islamic state doesn't leave thousands of corpses in its way. a means to an end, slaughter is its goal. slaughter in the name of higher purification. >> does it give isis enough credit? it basically is it not trying to draw japan into the middle east? is it not trying to draw the united states in? this obviously is a group that does not value life or fear death? it seems to me they are happy to bring these people on to their turf and fight to the death. >> welly, iillie, i think that was a good point.
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they use it to recruit these would be terrorists all around the world. i'm afraid that has some impact. i also want to go back to what joe and john and mica were talking about whether this becomes a front and center issue, i think it is going to be who can take advantage of it. i think that's an interesting question. marco rubio has tried. interestingly, will jeb bush talk about the bush family foreign policy credentials when he's ad campaign? i'm not sure that's an asset ange any longer. >> al hunt. we appreciate it. john if you krks stick around. still ahead, we got senators john mccain and joe manclinhin with us. >> nor tim kainesenator tim kaine joins us on "morning joe."
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. >> joining us now from washington, a member of the senate foreign services committee democrat tim kaine of virginia. so great to have you with us here this morning. >> thanks guys. great to be with you. >> give us your reaction of what happened yesterday and how you think it will impact u.s. foreign policy relations across the middle east. >> joe, it was absolutely horrific and to make it even more vivid and powerful the news came out about an hour before the foreign relations committee sat down to talk to king abdullah of jordan. he was here yesterday to meet with armed services and foreign committee members. it was just very very painful to talk about this with him to hear about how this battle against isis and the civil war in syria is affects jordan in
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that pain we really got into talking about strategy what it will take to beat these guys king abdullah was very plain. there is a region all jihadism wrapped up in regional politics. it's a pro clamation of islam. king abdullah said we have to defeat this in our region. there is our problem. we need your help to beat it. it can't be distant nation's without us taking the lead role. i thought that was a courageous position but also a very honest one. we've got to provide help to the region to beat this threat. but they have to be there at the table in a very vic russ way battling it. jordan is some of the ought nation's aren't all in to defeat isil. >> jordan, the dynamic has certainly changed in a matter of 24 hours, you see the furor on the streets and also it's perplexing to try to follow the strategy as the negotiation for a hostage swath was completely undermined by this killing,
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which happened apparently day, weeks ago. >> well, and that the point that you were making before the break about, you know maybe the violence is not the means to an end. it's the end, itself. maybe that's the only way to make sense of this. whether it's isil of boka haram in africa you see the groups claiming the mantle of islamist ideology. they are profaneing this religion. >> that means clerics and governmental leaders all have to come together to defeat this president obama has called a conference on february 18th in washington to talk about this jihadism. there needs to be a conference about the middle east taking a stand against this violence. >> where are the projections of american force in response to what clearly an unfolding and
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spiraling six? >> you will probably see nit two areas. we will have a long hearing, morning and afternoon with ash carter secretary of defense i think he will be a firm series of questions to him about this projection of forced issue and frankly, we had a couple of hearings in the last few weeks with brent's go croft, brezinski and croft and others we will get into it today. i believe after the president's state of the union he said and it made me feel good we do need to have a debate about an authorization for use of military force where we define what the mission looks like what the u.s. role will be and how our force should be used. i think you will see very soon the white house and congress get to that discussion. >> that will be a pretty intense one within the foreign relations committee. while we are all against isil. there are some significant detail differences.
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>> senator tim kaine, always good to see you. thank you very much. >> good to be with you guys. >> senator john mccain weighs in on this a bit later this morning. up next. >> can you believe this guy? what is wrong with there guy? >> i don't know what to say. i think this is perplexing as well. what in the world? we'll be right back. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40 $21. could something that small make an impact on something as big as your retirement? i don't think so. well if you start putting that towards
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. >> welcome back to "morning joe." embattled cyclist lance armstrong in hot water this time with colorado officials after he allegedly drove into two parked cars and let his girlfriend take the blame. such a -- armstrong was issued a summons and faces failure to report an accident and speeding after a december car crash in aspen. they ahe parked the car and let his girlfriend ran to the owners taking responsibility saying sthefs one behind the wheel to protect lance armstrong's image. we later found out she admitted it was lance who was behind the wheel. he faces up to 90 days in jail. >> could they face jail in five to ten? >> i don't know. >> this is a guy who still has no remorse for anything he's ever done. i remember the famous oprah
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. >> what appears to have happened is a car was stopped on the tracks. it was hit by the train and the resulting fire an explosion of hitting the car consumed the car and the vehicle and then the first car of the train, itself so it is truly a devastatingly ugly situation to see. >> welcome back to "morning joe." we also of course have horrifying footage out of taiwan but an isis story on the front page of all the papers today, i was reading jordanian ministry spokesperson. he says that isis has opened the gates of hell on themselves by
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committing this inhumane crime. they are meant to send a message and a responsive jihadist group. but, of course they there were several people they held in aptivety they hung yesterday. have you this and the heart of the middle east enrageing muslims across the middle east in japan the first time since world war ii that you actually have a threat of revenge against another state, another entity from the japanese. in this is a death cult they're going to get their wish. >> in just a few minute they will have a look at how they're getting their place in history, a very evil play. but at first, we want to start right here in new york after a commuter train crashed into an suv at a rarely crossing on
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tuesday night. the metro north train was speeding to the town of valhalla north of new york city at rush hour when it slams into a jeep cherokee. the crash and dozens more injured. rehema ellis has the latest. >> what we should tell you first off is 12 passengers were brought here to this no. one trauma center where their families have spent an anxious night trying hoping praying for good news about their loved ones. we hope to hear more about the exact conditions. we understand ten were seriously injured. the government was on site of that crash earlier. he also remind us that hundreds of other people however, did manage to walk away. here's what one had to say about
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the crash. >> it's a horrific scene. a number of us we are smelling the fuel we need to get out t. fire was starting to spread back. >> it wasn't panic. people were saying stay calm him people were clearly getting more and more anxious. that's when we started to get the emergency doors and windows opened. >> the train came to an abrupt stop. there was an announcement the train struck a vehicle. that was about it. then everyone well, at that point people started moving back towards the back of the train and people were saying that they melled gas in the front car. >> we felt the train jammed on its brakes hard a couple of times. there was a lot of scraping. >> a terrifying night and a horrible crash in what officials are calling the worst tragedy in the history of this metro north
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commuter rail line. joe, mica. >> all right, thank you so much. we greatly appreciate rehema ellis. as we mentioned tuesday night's crash, is just the latest problem for metro railroad. here's the recent decline of what was once considered one of the nation's safest rail line boy, that's changed. >> reporter: metro north's decline has been rapid, the string of accidents starting in march, 2013 a. metro north electrician is struck by a train. on may 17th two months later, a broken piece of track causes a derailment and collision between trains in bridgeport, connecticut. 65 people are injured. >> it's one of those kind of jolts that really sent people flying. >> reporter: also in may, a track form struck by a train. two months later, a 48 train derails while traveling over metro north tracks. no injury but millions in
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damage. five months pass and then the deadliest accident in metro north history occurs when a metro north engineer fell asleep behind the controls causing the train to fly off the tracks at 80 miles an hour while rounding a curve in the bronx, four passengers are killed. 70 injured. >> our mission is to understand not just what happened but why it happened with the intent of preventing it from happening again. >> you know willie geist, there are stories, of course before of jim hoffer talking about all the mistakes that metro north employees made in the past. in this case though it was a different situation. a different tragedy. >> yeah, it was. if you listen to eyewitness accounts from last night. it sounds like the woman killed in the black cherokee was trying to cross the railroad track t. barricade arm came down in the back of her car. she got out to see what had happened. there was a woman behind her saying, back up back umm.
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instead the woman gets in her car and tries to beat the train, goes forward, apparently as soon as she started going forward the train hit her and again seven people died because of it. >> all right. there with is another air tragedy in asia to report. this time in taiwan where at least 23 people were killed after a commercial jet crashed shortly after takeoff this morning. we have this video which appears to show the actual crash. authority say the transasia airlines plane clipped a bridge and crashed into a shallow river. 58 passengers and crew were on board. the rescue mission is still under way for 20 people who are still unaccounted for, but so far, officials say 15 people have been found alive. >> jordan is making a strong statement and this morning after islamic state militants apparently burned alive a jordanian pilot held hostage, two al qaeda convicted prisoners are dead and they were executed by hanging. one is the iraqi lawman whom
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jordan was willing to release in exchange for the murdered pilot. reports of a pilot's gruesome death has triggered demonstrations across jordan to demand justice and revenge. beheadings apparently weren't gruesome enough for this terror group to get global attention. now the civilized world awaits and it wonders, what will be next from this modern face of evil? >> the world will simply not stand by and watch as isil's evil spreads. >> we are facing an evil against which the whole of the world should unite. >> we will follow them to the gates of hell because hell is where they will reside. >> reporter: isis is onafraid and unapologetic in pursuit of its cause, spareing no gender no religion no nationality and above all showing no mercy to its victims. their atrocities over just the past year simply unspeakable.
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>> american journalist named james foley went missing in syria two years ago now. sadly today we learned he was apparently beheaded by isis militants. >> the beheading of american journalist steven sotloff. >> he is the third western hostage to be beheaded by isis in recent weeks. >> this time it's british aid worker alan hemming. >> they have killed hostage peter caseing. >> the message claims one hostage was killed. >> the beheading of another japanese hostage by one of its isis captors. he would be the second japanese citizen to be killed by isis in just a week. >> reporter: the barbaric murders of cap cured journalists and aid workers continues as isis taunts the world, posting their executions online with. their tactics pushing passivist japan to vow reven him. they know the nightmare of isis all too well. last august isis fighters steamrolled into iraq's northern area slaughtering members of the minority group and in some
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reported cases bearing their victims alive. hundreds of thousands fred from their homes, trying to escape the horrors. isis has reportedly taken hundreds of women as slaves and forced children into starvation and dehydration. for this terror group, children are not spared from being killed or doing the killing. one of their chilling videos shows a young boy carrying out the grown-up's murders. in syria, isis terrorists crucified their victims to sandy message to any who dared to challenge its rule. a terror group who wants the world's attention is getting it and now they are drawing comparisons to some of histories worst faces of evil. >> what they were doing is they weren't broadcasting those atrocities. they actually were almost polar opposites of what isis would do. that was incredibly effective to what they were dock ethnic cleansing. isis have a different approach.
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they want to tell the whole world about atrocities there is the genocide committed in cambodia with the whole population or in africa we saw the rwandan jen sides. i would be careful to draw parallels with another genocides with what isis is doing, which is unique harnessing technology to get its message out there. >> no god condones this terror. no grievance justifies these actions. there can be no reasoning, no negotiation with this brand of evil. the only language understood by killers like this is the language of force. >> john heilman, we talked this morning how this is impacting politics in japan, changing it dramatically. how it's impacting politics in jordan across the middle east. changing it dramatically.
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how this will impact politics in new hampshire and iowa and a few states will determine u.s. foreign policy over the next four years. >> well you think about certainly it's going to elevate foreign policy as an issue in this campaign. we know the economy has dominated the last few elections. can you see security being a central issue. on the republican side from has been a division within your party, joe, about the more restrained or isolationist part of the party the more aggressive kind of neocon kind of the party. >> that will make it elevated harder i think for candidates like rand paul more on the restrained side to get traction. at the same time it will also make, throw a new stark relief on the fact that a lot of these candidates don't have much foreign policy experience. there is a lot about hillary clinton's experience in the state department there. is no question hillary clinton has a lot more foreign policy
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experience than any republican. >> you bring up a great point. on the republican side, what republican has the most foreign policy experience that's already out there talking about running? >> honestly someone like rick santorum. jeb bush has no foreign policy whatsoever. he has the bush name. that doesn't count for national security experience. you talk about people like john casic or people like rick santorum, the most we jit mat experience in the senate. >> sitting in the senate. >> or the house on committees that dealt with this. if you think about this certainly none of the governors have any. a guy like scott walker in the sun has no politics to speak of. the new senators ted paul rand cruise mar ro cubia have been in the senate a short time to claim they have experience. >> a very thin binge, but there is no doubt marco rubio, because some of us work in the senate he will probably position himself as that guy. >> rand baum is another guy on foreign policy as well. let's go to washington now,
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democrat joe manchin of west virginia. senator manchin. it's good to have you with us this morning. i trust you were horrified what you saw of this 26-year-old jordanian pilot burned alive by isis locked inside a cage. but does it change for you the calculation of what the united states of america should be doing or how much the united states of america should be doing in this fight against isis? >> well, first of all, let me say to you our prayers to all american, all west virginiaians for the family of the pilot and all jordanians. it is a horrific situation that we witnessed and basically we have seen. we were privileged to see to talk to king abdullah yesterday before he left the armed services committee. with that i think our results should be to give tell all of the equipment, military equipment that they need to do the job and get them to them as quickly as possible. break down the barriers and the red tape. that's what we heard. let us engage in this fight.
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not one time did i hear king abdullah ask for ground troops. >> we need the expertise that we can to make sure our support for them has the efficiency tacit spluft and have the expertise. with that being said i think you will see today, very quick movement from the armed services committee and how we deal with getting equipment to them quicker. >> that they're going to be needing. . >> what is the feeling among republicans and democrats on the hill regarding isis. obviously, there has been a lot of give and take. the president early on has released some republican, are underestimating the threat of isis. is this now an issue that's going to be unifying and are you actually going to have a situation where you have congress pushing the administration to move further and favouriteer on this threat? >> well, i think, as i said, tail move further and favouriteer on equipping those who wish to fight. we found the jordanian's wish to fight. we bound to the kurds wish to
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fight. getting the iraqis up to speed where they can fight and defend themselves. but the most important thing that we are seeing and i've heard that from henry kissinger, from george schultz and madeleine albright is that isis is a threat. we have as to make sure they are not able to have their own state to where they have something as to rally behind and we can disrupt that. but, basically, we have people in that area. the saudis have to engage. the turks have to engage. and that is in their neighborhood on their borders. the jordanians i think have risen up now. you will see them take aggressive action. we will support that every way we possibly can. >> all right. joining us via skype from jordan is jordanian political analyst rhonda habib. what is the reaction in jordan especially given the news there? >> the devastation and the revenge started, of course immediately after the discovery
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of the video. i mean you have to understand that among those being burned alive has a point for everybody. but definitely in the muslim faith this is one of the worst things that can happen because cremation of the body is not allowed in the muslim religion let alone someone that is survived. let alone the pilot that was killed or death was not the surprise. people have started for a while now to realize that probably he is dead. but it's the way they killed him. and i think isis made a big mistake because now the sentiment against it and the word evil that you are saying is now on every lips because when you let someone die in the fire the message is you are sending him to hell. so just because he was on a plane and, of course they consider that him being the military and a muslim he is a
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bicker enemy. >> you know we were also talking earlier about what happened when zakari the godfather of this death cult really turned things against his cause with the bombing of the jordanian wedding i believe it was in 2006--- >> 2005. >> 2005. a real turning point which many analysts here and across the world believe actually turned the tide at least in western iraq. do you draw any comparisons as far as how it might impact public sentiment in jordan with this brutal murder and also the bombing of that jordanian wedding? >> absolutely. i mean the company, strangely enough, his target was mostly against john. because he was in policen in jordan. he was a revengeful and the would be bombers said isis acts for in a swap.
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i think it was on a ploy. we just cannot believe that he has any value for them or the value for them matter who was a top aid of zakawri. isis is confident and once again not to understand not to forget sorry that some jordanians are with isis and in what they call the trial of the pilot, just immediately after they owe owe the one calls for the death penalty for the jordanian pilot was a jordanian jihadists. >> all right, thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> we appreciate it. let's bring in catty kay, obviously, across the world, you said from japan to jordan over the past couple of day the government's outraged vowing retribution retribution. as willie said before, it's a death cult with a death wish
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that if it continue at this pace apparently is going to get their wish. >> yeah, you've had world leaders rounding on isis because of what they did to this jordanian pilot david cameron echoing with words of barak obama yesterday. i think the real question now is what kind of retribution is taken against the islamic state. i was speaking to people at the pentagon who said we can't take our foot off the accelerator. this will increase our resolve to try and take out islamic state. be you the question is how, that's still the unanswerable question. no country, not even jordan this morning is talking about putting boots on the ground. they know how dangerous it is. they know what happens to their people if they get caught by islamic state. they've just seen what happens. and without boots oh, without a force to actually fight street-to-street as they did in kabani it's hard to see how they are devered. you already had reports in the "new york times" saying the united arab emirates suspended
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its strikes, the bombing strikes if december when the jordanian pilot was captured. so although jordan is still very strong and people are saying listen, this coalition is strong. we must step up our efforts, there are signs that some of those arab countries are looking at what happened to that jordanian pilot and saying actually, you know what we're not sure if we want to be as involved as we were. >> all right, stay with us if you can. still ahead on morning joe"morning joe" senator john mccain joins and the man considered of murdering chris kieshlgs should it be postponed because of the success rendering "american sniper? "we'll tell you what the judge thinks in that case next. the future of the market is never clear. but at t. rowe price we can help guide your retirement savings. our experience is one reason 100% of our retirement funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so wherever your long-term goals take you we can help you feel confident.
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so where do you think the senate goes from here on this funding of homeland security? >> first of all, i think homeland security is something we can't be playing politics and football and kicking it around. that's one thing we can't do. with all the destruction and turmoil and the terrorist attacks and their intent of what they want to do to america and americans for us to fool with this, we can't do it. basically, we want to clean bill. we have gone through what the house has given us and we want to have a clean bill that comes up now that we can vote on that moves it forward, shows the american people that were sincere, we're committed and dedicated and unified on protecting the homeland. that's what homeland security is all about. i think you will see that happen. i think the republicans on the senate side gave their colleagues on the house side the vote they wanted. they show they'll have the support for it. let's get a clean bill and move on. we need a security and homeland security and shape. >> you think they sort of made their point, that is what you alluded to in your answer?
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or do you think they are digging in their heels on this? >> if they don't, it will be on their hands, running at the proper speed that it should be running, giving the proper protection we need in america. i don't think any political side would want to have that on their back and the bottom line is we're not going to play games. but the immigration and in the senate, we have voted for an immigration bill. we have a good bill. we are asking the house to take it up. with that being said don't start mixing matching putting in such important things as homeland security. that's not going to happen. we have a clean bill. we want a clean vote on this bill. i think the senate republicans will do that and i'm hoping that the house republicans along with some senate colleagues will take a reasonable approach to this. >> senator joe manchin thank you very much. >> thanks, senator. >> thank you for having me. coming up, yesterday a turning point in the fight against iseiss former cia station chief of islamabad are both our guests on "morning
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it is half past the hour joining us now msnbc contributor mike barn a cal. >> are you good? >> he's good. >> back up to the parade in boston? >> i got my own deck phone. >> i bet you do. also with us nbc news foreign correspondent ayman mulldean republican congressman matt thornberry of texas and in washington former cia station chief of islamabad pakistan and former director of the cia counterterrorism center robert greenier, he is out with a book "88 days to kandahar a cia diary." >> let's go to mr. chairman instead of mack mr. chairman, what is the response to the horrors we saw yesterday out of jordan and does it have an impact on u.s. foreign policy going forward? >> well, i hope it has an impact
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because that sort of cruelty is pretty much unimaginable. i think it's important to remember we're not the target audience. they're in a competition with al qaeda. they are looking to recruit to see who can be the worst of the worst and distract people to its distorted ideology. so for someone to say oh this is revolting, it's a bankrupt ideology doesn't get to the heart of the matter because it's fought through our eyes that they are concerned about. >> you know it's a fascinating insight, robert let me bring you in right here. we were talking earlier there were times with bin ladin and zawahi ri, we were tailing zawakari, hey, guys cut it out. this is over the line. you are going to turn off muslims, you are hurting the cause. here with you have death cult that looked at al-zakari as a hero and doing the same thing
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with the jordanian wedding bombing if 2005. >> that's what they always do. these are people for whom brutal tactics are inc. stingtive. as you mentioned there was a big debate among ayman al zawakawi isis sprung later from the head and telling him that he was alienating large elements of the muslim population and, of course, zarkawi would fought listen to him. >> mr. chairman what we've seen is another element of the end game of a cult of extreme violence and insanity actually from isis with yesterday's burning death of the jordanian pilot. how would you propose to combat this element of violence which is so extreme to be pro pos truss, how would you propose to combat this? >> well in the short term there are two things we got to do. one is to support the jordanians.
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our committee wet with the king yesterday. he gave us kind of a laundry list things he needs like fuel and munitions and equipment and he expressed frustration that it takes so long for our bureaucracy to get something approved to get to him. so that's a first and immediate step. secondly, i think we need to support the king and president assissi in egypt when they try to encourage other national leaders and muslim clerics to reclaim the muslim religion and to isolate these people who have zortd it so much and in a way reduced their recruiting appeal. finally, we've got to act sell rate our efforts in syria and iraq. the best thing we can do is to show some victories here versus this cult as you say, which is really still got the moment mum even though we have been bombing them from the air for several months. >> all right, mr. chairman
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great to talk to you, see you on the hill very soon. >> thanks joe. >> we have seen there morning widespread condemnation from the muslim world from egypt to the gulf states and everywhere in between. is this a tipping point of some kind against isis. if it is what does that mean practically? >> it's a tipping point among the public sentiment. isis has been completely rejected in that part of the world for the past several months. you really hear strong sharp condemnation in media outlets and criticism against the organization. in terms of political tipping point, i don't think we're there yet. the governments don't have the political will to really try to address this issue with boots on the ground. will you not see the egyptian military or turkish military going into these areas and flushing them out. >> do you think so isis ironically wanted to see king hussein as an enemy. he played into his hands. he now makes him the hero of a lot of jordanian people and this fight against an evil cause that
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would burn alive the son of a tribesman? >> i think when you see something like this the country rallies behind king abdullah. he will have support now. he definitely had support going into this war. there have been some voices of criticism, including members of this tribe, including the father of this soldier. when it comes down to it the country is now reeling. they are definitely grieving. you see this effect of the country coming behind again. they realize this is now their war. the wars that come home to them as well. >> we have these obviously extremely failed and hostage negotiations that really were not negotiations bob grenier, what can with glean by the female hostage and the calculus? in there there is a calculus the hostage-takers have to make in every instance in this case we are well served by not negotiating for the release of terrorists. understandably, the american family of this young woman feels
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differently and obviously they can make their own decisions. i think she is ironically being protected to some degree by the fact they know as far as the u.s. government is earn candidate, they will not get anything as a result of her capture. >> all right thank you both very much. >> guy, thank you so much. coming up next it reads like a spy thriller. it's a true story, how murder and corruption became one man's corruption of doing business with sladz sladz mir putinsladz mir putin. that's up next on "morning joe." gly engineered without compromise. to be more powerful... and, miraculously, unleash 46 mpg highway. an extravagance reserved for the privileged few. until now. hey josh! new jetta? yeah. introducing lots of new.
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high finance murder and one man's fight for justice. good to see you. >> good to see. >> you i hope you can take us through it. it is incredible. you are running a hedge fund in russia. all of a sudden vladimir putin decides he doesn't like the way you are doing business in his country. instead of running away you kind of took him on. >> what happened was i was exposing russia and the companies i invest in obviously, vladimir putin and his pals were benefiting from that. they kicked me out of russia and raided my office and seized documents to steal $230 million of taxes we paid. i hired a young lawyer to investigate. he finds the whole scam. he exposes the scam. and then he is arrested by the same people he exposed, put in jail tortured for 358 days and killed five years ago at the age of 37. >> your attorney is killed in jail.
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you have been doing be though in russia for sometime. at what point did it turn? when did putin decide you needed to leave the country? >> what happened he became president at first he wasn't very powerful because of the russian rich guys who had all the power. so what happened was he arrested the richest of the rich ones a guy named michael hornekovski and put him in trial and all of a sudden all the others fell into line. they became his business partner. >> that's what it took the arrest of one they all fell in line? >> what happened was they put the richest most powerful guy in a cable and allowed the television cameras to film in a cable. >> proving if i can do this to him, i can do this to you. >> putin is a big man of symbols. he picks one guy and the rest of the people say i don't want to sit in a cable. >> mike. >> two questions, one how is it, i mean you did well in
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russia for a while financially. how is it that american financial institutions deal or cope with the russian bourburocracy of the russians and the other question is -- >> the answer is they don't. most everybody has kind of pulled out at this point. it's an uninvestable untenuable country. you have two choices, you can be a criminal over there and accepted, then are you a criminal over here. or you can become like me where you challenge the criminalality you end up either dead in jail or in exile losing all your money. >> is it true that putin is one of the wealthiest men in the world? >> in my opinion, 100%. >> i heard estimates 30 $40 billion. what do you think it is? >> way too low. multiply it by five. >> $200 billion? >> if you take putin a and the
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guys around him. over the last 14 years ago they've stole an trillion dollars from russia. >> it's absolutely remarkable. in the books you have a picture, of the cage where you were actually tried in absentia? >> yeah so after they killed my lawyer, we got the u.s. congress to pass something called a magnivski act which sanctions the people that killed them and response to that they put me and my dead lawyer a dead person on trial and the first time they've ever tried even stalin didn't have the nerve to try a dead person. they put me on trial and sentenced me to nine years in absentia. >> mike brought up an excellent footnoerkts your grandfather held an interesting position in american political life. >> my grandfather was the general secretary of the american communist party from 1932 to 1945 ran for president as a communist twice. my when i was growing up as a
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. >> joining us now former special assistant personal aid to president obama reggie love the author of the new book "power forward, my presidential education." great to see you here. >> thank you for having me i
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appreciate you having me. >> a lot of people know you played at duke. coach k, crossing the threshold, the acc is tough, how are you looking this year? >> the acc is tough. a lot of teams between louisville and notre dame and syracuse and uva, carolina it's a tough year.
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the president except for maybe his family. right? over the time that you knew president obama from a candidate then to being a president, did he change very much? did the presidency change him? you were in that white house for a few years before you left. did he change much as he made that transition into power? >> i mean, i do think that, you know, it was a huge responsibility that he felt in terms of you know representing the country, respecting the office. i think there were definitely some changes in the sense of you know you're no longer just
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a guy, you know representing the state of illinois. you're the first african-american president. you know you're coming to the office when you have such turmoil in the economy. i think there was definitely a pretty big weight when he came into the office but i think the core of him was definitely the same. his most important feature was that he really spent his time trying to figure out how to make things better for the average american person and i was telling robin on "gma" the other, the guy, before he was even president, he was the guy would meet someone having a hard time out on his luck problems with the car or health care and he'd want to write them an anonymous check just to say, hey, i want to help these guys do -- >> that's fantastic. >> to get by. >> you are reggie love. all-around great guy. accomplished guy. you're not a pundit but i'm
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going to ask you sort of a pundit's question based upon your familiarity with people. marvin nicholson. >> my guy. >> marvin all-time great guy. great golfer too. so he was john kerry's guy in the similar role that you've played with president obama when kerry rather fon president. what's your sense, if hillary clinton does not run for president, do you think that the secretary of state has one more run left in him? >> i mean you know, that's an interesting question. john kerry's tough, man. he is a tough guy. i think -- you know you look at the obama world from the she -- nicholsons, a lot of people that did work for john kerry and did great work for him in that '04 race. you know i don't know if he would run or not. it's a hard thing to do man. you've got to really want it, and you know it's going to cost
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you a couple billion dollars you got to go out and raise and it's probably going to be two years, and it's a big investment. >> tough. isn't it? really tough. >> yeah. >> this book is fascinating. a perspective that literally no one else has had of the president in all of those years. congratulations on the book. called "power forward" always good to see you. >> thank you. >> reggie. >> no index in this book. >> all right. >> reggie's ex-girl friends are happy about that. >> a lot of news straight ahead. disgust and outrage, the world's reaction to the murder of a jordanian prisoners and senator john mccain our guest. and a commuter train crashes during an evening rush hour leaving seven dead and a dozen more injured. kate snow son the scene, plus stunning video appearing to show the trashcrash of a flight.
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only at laquinta.com! la quinta! good morning a packed news day. several stories that are developing right now. there was a fiery and deadly train crash last night. just a few miles north of us in new york city. here's the "daily news." horror fiery nightmare, and that was during the commute. also, a horrifying plane crash
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that was actually caught on video in taiwan. we will be getting to that too. it's just horrifying, and isis taking its brutality to a whole new level as a captive is burned alive. mika, there is a lot of news and let's -- why don't we start right here in new york. >> all right. start with the train cash. seven people are dead this morning after a commuter train passing through westchester county, new york crashed into an suv at a railroad crossing on tuesday night, last night. the packed metro north train was speeding through the town of valhalla north of new york city at rush hour when it slammed into a black jeep cherokee. the driver and six people onboard the train were killed in the crash, and a dozen more were injured. joining us now from valhalla new york nbc news national correspondent kate snow. kate what's the very late effort into how this happened? >> reporter: good morning. federal investigators from the ntsb are arriving here this
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morning. this is the most deadly crash ever for this railroad. you can see the burned out car behind me there. more than 600 commuters were onboard when this train slammed into an suv that was trapped on the tracks. the train pushed that suv for about a football field in length. so hundreds of feet. it caught fire the suv did, and the first car of the train. new york governor andrew cuomo said given the devastation he saw here last night he was surprised there weren't more casualties. a rrp that came under scrutiny. the federal government looked into this railroad because they've had several accidents over the last few years. mika. in asia this time taiwan at least 13 people killed after a commercial jet crashed shortly after takeoff this morning. incredible horrifying video, actually. authorities say the transasia airlines plane clipped a bridge and crashed into a shallow river. 58 passengers and crew onboard.
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kresse rescue stillunder way. here's the video now. at least 28 people found alive. 31 from mainland china. others from taiwan. joining us now from beijing. nbc news correspondent ian williams. ian, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, joe. well that dramatic footage was shot from a dashcam of a passing car, which itself only just missed the aircraft. it came down almost on its side collided with that flyover before careening, cartwheeling into the river. what's not clear is whether the pilot deliberately tried to make it into the river. he managed to make his way by a couple of apartment block there's. the aircraft was a french-built atr-72 with 58 people onboard. now, this evening, it's dark now in taipei and that search for survivors continues. the acting fire chief of the city has confirmed that 16
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people are dead but they're still looking for another 14 who are unaccounted for. they're looking at ways to try and bring the fuse lodge to thelage to the edge of the river or perhaps get a pontoon out to the aircraft. the way it landed means it's upside-down in the river and those still inside the fuselage were at the front of the plane when it crushed, they believe. horrific scenes captured by the dashcam. not sure what might have caused it. there is a suggestion tonight of perhaps engine failure, is recording has emerged purporting to the pilot saying mayday mayday engine flareout but that can't be confirmed at this stage. 234e have found the black box and hopefully we will know soon joe. >> nbc's een williams thanks so much and at least 28 people alive. incredible, based on what you see when a moving car on the highway that 28 people survived.
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>> the moving car in the highway. you see the apartment buildings right there, the pilot lands it in the water. i don't know if that -- >> could have saved lives. >> a lot of lives. jordan is making a strong statement overnight after islamic state militants apparently burned alive a jordanian pilot held hostage. two al qaeda-convicted prisoners dead after execution by hanging. one the iraqi woman whom jordan was willing to release in exchange for that murdered pilot. the reports of the pilot's gruesome death triggered demonstrations across jordan to demand justice and revenge. >> let's bring in right now nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard ingle live from istanbul. richard, yesterday we were talking how japan for the first time since 1945 actually had a prime minister making an aggressive statement talking how they were going to seek revenge, retribution. now you have jordan up in arms. it really is remarkable how
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isolated and insulated isis may be worldwide right now but, yesterday they certainly took their horrors to a whole new level. >> reporter: isis has no interest in winning friends outside the region. it is operating completely on its own objective. it believes it is establishing this idealistic islamic state. an islamic state condemned by muslim leaders. particularly just today muslim leaders came out strongly against this disgusting video. all of the isis videos have been disgusting. the beheading, the torture, but this one went -- went beyond i think, even the standards that isis had set for itself. the jordanian king who was in washington has now arrived back in jordan. he was, received at the airport by several hundred people. some of them holding photographs of the king and there has been a lot of support so far for the
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monarchy. locked in a metal cage, doused in fuel the young jordanian pilot moments before burned alive. the most savage act yet from a group known for its shocking brutality. in jordan relatives could not contain their disgust and grief and fury. the pilot was first lieutenant muath al kassasbeh, 26 just married in july an elite member of jordanian society, captured the day before christmas after ejecting from his f-16 on a mission to attack isis in syria, part of the u.s.-led coalition. jordan's king abdullah, a close u.s. ally at the white house before cutting short his washington visit. [ speaking in foreign language ] earlier, on jordanian television he called the murder cowardly terror by a group with no relation to islam.
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president obama said the killing intensifies his determination to fight isis. >> should, in fact, this video be authentic, it's just one more indication of the vivaciousness and barbarity of this organization. >> reporter: and that woman who was on death row in jordan according to jordanian officials, she has been executed along with another convicted al qaeda militant this morning. their execution carried out just before sunrise in jordan. jordanian officials say four other al qaeda members will also be put to death. >> all right. nbc news's richard ingleengel. thank you so much from washington. and columnist from "the washington post," david ignatius. david you know, this reminds me so much of the excesses in iraq
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by zarqawi, the most powerful terrorist. building this which isis based so much of their ideology around and then he bombed as you know just reminding everybody else watching, he bombed a jordanian wedding, and suddenly people in anbar province, people across iraq people across the middle east said that's not us. and it really was a turning point. we always talked about petraeus. that was the turning point as well. we see these images out of jordan. we hear the japanese for the first time since '45 talking about revenge. and willie was just saying it. it seems they have a death wish. what do you make of the latest horrors, and how long before this catches up with isis? >> joe i think you put it well when you talked about a cult of
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death. almost a theater of violence for this group. these are young people. they've been living a video life, that's how they're recruited and they're doing things, creating a level of violent action that we just haven't seen, and it is beginning to really make people in the arab world angry. what was striking to me about the killing of the jordanian air force lieutenant kassasbeh was, this was a man from the tribal culture of jordan. if you look at pictures of his relatives, these are simple jordanians, east bankers, people from the bedouin part of jordanian society, and in this world there is a code of revenge. if you kill a member of my tribe, if you do injury to my group, i'm going to come after you with everything i've got
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forever, and you saw that look in the eyes of members of his family immediately the jordanians moved to execute two people they were holding and they're probably execute more. yesterday talking to jordanian officials here in washington, they weren't sure what the public reaction would be when people saw the videos. would they say, oh this is terrible. this isn't our fight, pull back? some fear they might say that. or would they get really angry? turned out to be the lat are and i think the islamic state in this case has really kicked over a hornets nest with severe consequences for them for some time. >> i agree completely. let's bring in right now nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports." andrea mitchell. andrea, you've been reporting about an american woman held hostage by islamic state militants. what can you tell us? >> reporter: there's very little we can report because of sensitivities, but this is a
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really challenging case for the u.s. it is top of mind to the president. he spoke about it to savannah guthrie earlier this week and the fact is that she's young. she went to syria, and he has been captured by isis since august of 2013. a 26-year-old american woman working for aid organizations trying to help the war's millions of refugees taking hostage a year ago august. her hometown name and organization all withheld at her parents' request, but always top of mind for the white house as the president told savannah guthrie this week. >> in very close contact with the family trying to keep them updated. this is something that is heartbreaking for families and our obligation is that we can do anything we can to try to make sure that any american citizen is rescued from this situation. >> reporter: but isis has wiped out borders forcing the u.s. to rely on murky contacts, and
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often unreliable foreign intelligence services. the only positive sign -- isis has never acknowledged capturing the aid worker and sex cuting a woman on camera might be deeply offensive to isis followers. >> as brutal and unpredictable as isis is they're not intent upon killing female hostages that is the hope because of her gender because she hasn't been put on camera that she perhaps is not in the queue, the line to be killed and somehow this woman can survive. the family and white house are working very closely together and hoping that she will escape the fate. obviously huge concerns about the incredible brutality of what happened to the jordanian pilot, what happened to the japanese and you were just discussing with david ignatius it looks from the reaction in jordan and it was not clear even 48 hours ago, if the pilot were to be killed. >> exactly. >> how this would reflect on the
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king and his authority, but it seems to have so revolted this very important tribe, and the spirit in jordan right now is certainly turning pro-monarchy and as king abdullah arrives home having cut short his visit, but visited with president obama just before taking off from washington last night, seems they are rallying around him and he'll make condolence calls to the family today. >> again it is again, mika -- >> andrea thank you. >> thank you so much andrea. shouldn't be surprising. go back to the jordanian wedding, zarqawi blew it up immediate revulsion, and this is where, whether it's al qaeda, whether the isis at some point, this -- this offense greatly offends the very people they're trying to persuade in the middle east, and i think it's -- >> it also seems they have a death wish to the point they have already taken this life as they were negotiating.
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>> i think they do. japan, seeking retribution. yeah. they don't have a military they can do that. they've got billions of, and billions of dollars that you know, they may spend now in helping in the fight, or contributing in any way they can. and, willie i want to go back quickly. somebody might have heard andrea's reporting. wait a second. these people set a man on fire. >> oh. >> why wouldn't they kill a woman? on tape? you remember reading the horrifying reports of the paris attacks. "charlie hebdo," there was a woman there. the guy said hey, hey, don't worry, we're not going to kill you, you're a woman, but you shouldn't be hanging out with these guys. a bizarre set of ethical standards. >> you're right. they stirred a new passion in the muslim world. bizarre. listen to the pilot's father he spoke for a lot of people. said something like we should seek severe revenge for the blood of my son against this
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criminal organization far from islam and from the spirit of islam. so david ignatius i put the question you now what does this change this horrific incident now that the entire world has seen in the fight against isis? we know the united states has led a coalition of which jordan was a part which is why the pilot was captured in the first place. now you're bringing japan into it. does this escalate things and containing even the united states' aggressiveness in the fight? >> we'll have to see about the speck military tactics, but certainly this begins to answer the biggest question that policymakers in washington have had, which is are the arabs really in this with us all the way? are they prepared to mobilize their own countries? because this isis threat will only be pushed back if the muslim citizens of jordan say, enough. we oppose this group. i am reminded of something, oddly enough, that was said by
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al qaeda's leadership when zarqawi was burning so hot in jordan a decade ago, and they warned -- bin laden himself warned, you're going too far. you're making people angry. you're killing muslims. you're turning people off. bin laden got so upset about this violence in iraq that he wondered whether they should change the name of the organization from al qaeda. so do you get these tipping points where suddenly public opinion switches. switched geps eded against al qaeda back then and we may be at one of those moments right now. >> david, you're right. i keep talking about the jordanian wedding. one example. there were several others. zawahiri bin laden's number two, kept reaching out, saying no, no. this is not what you're to do. this is not how you're going to conduct yourself. this is going to turn the middle east against them and for anybody that knows al sa seer wies and bin laden's history,
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back to '98. another tirping point. remember the luxor terror attack against tourists i think some japanese in egypt, and islamic terrorists slaughtered these tourists. they expected an uprising. instead they got revulsion from muslims and middle-class egyptians, and i remember reading that this shocked actually the terrorists and it actually happens again and again. it happened in raengd nowiraq and now it's happening again with isis. >> the terrorists in isis are in their own cult. i could come back to the word that you used. they're not seeing reality in the way that people normally would. and they continue to conduct agents that shock the conscience, in this case of the arab world. one of the most telling statements overnight was from a
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leading office a fundamental fundamentalist, muslim school here said, this pilot was a muslim. his family was muslim. killing him was unislamic, and when a leading sheikh says that that's important. >> david ignatius thank you. andrea mitchell, thank you as well. still ahead on "morning joe," the chairman of the senate arms services committee, senator john mccain, is our guest. plus so-called three-parent babies. what was once the step of science fiction is now very much a reality, and not everyone is welcoming it. three parents, one baby. >> i don't understand. >> we'll be right back. first, here's bill karins. it's okay. we'll explain it. it's a little strange. >> okay. >> bill karins with a check on the forecast. >> dna, slightsing and dicing. okay. more snow more cold. no surprise beginning of february. the areas that don't need it unfortunately getting more. light snow across new york state trying to drift into new
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england. only putting out a coating. not much. maybe one or two inches. also a heavier band of snow right over omaha sliding to the south. going to end up around st. joseph. just to the north of kansas city, you could get a little snow. even our friends in st. louis expecting just a little bit. so how much snow is this next storm going to bring? not a lot. just around two in chicago. two indianapolis and don't into tomorrow morning that snow makes its way through new england and used up a little there. notice five inches possible around buffalo and four around albany. the next storm has potential. this map is looking at saturday. this storm comes down from the north and goes in this general direction, and it's gogsz toing to linger in the mid-atlantic region. hinting at a possibility of another of to 12-inch snowfall in the region. sunday into tuesday maybe. our friends on the west coast, san francisco hasn't had a drop of rain in 40 days and 40 nights. that's about the change. an atmospheric river or pineapple express, pick your choice of weather term it's
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there is a new twist this morning in the mysterious death of a prosecutor in argentina.
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the lead investigator into alberto nisman's death says nisman drafted an arrest warrant for the country's president. the 26-page document was found in the garbage of his apartment. claiming christina kirschner helped cover of the bombing at a jewish center two decades ago where 85 people were killed. argentina's foreign minister is named in the warrant. both officials denied the accusations. nisman was found dead just hours before he was scheduled to testify to argentina's congress about the case. >> that is absolutely unbelievable. >> he had a gunshot wound to the head and officials are still investigating if he was murdered or committed suicide. >> you know the prosecutor in this report came out like 300 pages, and while maybe not quite a smoking gun, boy, it's close. they've intercepted conversations between the foreign minister of argentina
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during a meeting in 2011 in syria where a representative of the iranian government almost ex-police isly saying we'll push this aside if you give us cheap oil. incredible story. >> are you kidding me? >> yeah. >> unbelievable. to the debate over vaccinations shaking out potential candidates for 2016. new jersey governor chris christie cancelled three press conferences the day after he drew headlines by calling for vaccinations. the final day of his trip to the united kingdom the "daily mail" calls sdramp ss "disastrous" and senator rand paul backtracking he was aware of normal children developing mental diz ordsorders after vaccines. ironic, today i'm getting my booster vaccine. wonder how the liberal media will misreport this? >> actually we --
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>> we didn't misreport his statements. he says he didn't say that. >> i don't think it was liberal media. i think cnbc very few people willie consider cnbc to be liberal media. >> no i don't think so. >> i wonder -- he can keep blaming tv if he wants to. that's sort of a dead end, though. >> i think his complaint, he was portrayed in some outlets as a vaccine truther, and what he said on cnbc vaccine to one of the greatest advancements in human history but i don't believe the government should force people to get vaccines. >> right. he also talked about healthy children getting vaccines and then developing complications. you can try to walk that back if you want. >> i think he says he didn't say it. >> i like him. >> let's get more. joining us now from capitol hill. who covered senator paul's trip to the doctor. >> did he say that?
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perfectly normal children had gotten vaccines and had all of these complications or not? >> he said he's heard of them when interviewed on cnbc. what that led to because he didn't finish the thought as he -- he admitted to me in an interview yesterday he could have chosen his words more carefully. >> that helps. >> but what he did say yesterday, in a lengthy interview with him, i got a chance to speak with him about exactly what his views on vaccinations were, and he said, look, all of my kids of vaccinated. i believe every child in america should be vaccinated, but this is an odd topic in which rand paul's libertarian views kind of overlap with his you know scientific views as a physician. and in this case his libertarian views win out, in that he believes that parents should have a choice in whether or not their children get vaccinated. of course, with measles on the rise that's a very controversial decision it was, and controversial comments that he made. jeremy thank you very much.
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indication of the viciousness and barbarity of this organization. it also just indicates the degree to which whatever ideology they're operating off of, it's bankrupt. we're here to talk about how to make people healthier and make their lives better and this organization appears only interested in death and destruction. >> that's president obama reacting obviously to the gruesome video of islamic state militants appearing to burn a jordanian pilot alive. with us now from capitol hill chairman of the senate armed services committee, republican john mccain of arizona. i want to ask about the political impact of this hoar risk act and the united states in a moment. first i want to ask a question we've been posing around the table this morning. werther this isn't a lot like zarqawi bombing the jordanian
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wedding back in 2005 which turned a lot of iraq and a lot of the muslim world against him? >> well, one can hope so, joe. it's bound to have that effect. it's certainly having that effect on the jordanian people and in some ways this is more horrific because of the whole scene that you've seen unfortunately that it may have eastern horrified people even more than that bombing did. >> yeah ngts. >> so let's hope so. there's no doubt about jordan. there's no doubt there's a new king in saudi arabia. you're going see a much more active saudi arabian involvement, i hope but it still requires american leadership, and that's missing. >> senator you've obviously been calling for action on syria a long time ago. several years ago. a lot of people now believing there's a vacuum that's been created that allowed this to happen. assuming that is the case what does the united states --
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assuming you were right and most everybody else was wrong what does the united states do now? >> i think we need to do some things short term joe. like establish a no-fly zone in syria. like arming an equipping the free syrian army. like continuing our training and equipping of iraqis but in the long term what our goals should be is to have an arab force an arab force in syria and in iraq that can fight, do the bulk of the fighting. now, that's going to require american participation, american air powerer, more american boots on the ground but our ultimate objective should be a force of saudis, hopefully turks if we can have reckon selliation there, jordanians and others to carry on the fight against isis. it's going to be long and it's going to be hard. >> you said senator that a strategy must include taking an
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unambiguous stance against assad's rule. do you think the president is going to step up and do what needs to be done to defeat isis? and is he now? >> well he's not now. i no of no one who can identify a strategy besides a goal. he stated the goal but there's no strategy to achieve it but i'm hoping we can devise that strategy, and one of the things that i'd like to see is more consultation and discussions with congress because congress also has to go along. obviously, the events of these isis horrific things have val beganized american public opinion galvanized american public opinion and what i'm hearing, arab public opinion not to mention jordanian views. so i think they have created, as horrible as this is, there may be an opportunity for us to devise a strategy work with the arab countries, have them play a very lead role in combating what is a very a threat to their
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existence. >> senator, let's get back to the element of now that you raised a couple seconds ago. in terms of an all-arab force to combat isis. before we get to that point, assembling an all-arab force that will require time. in the interim, senator, are you in favor of american soldiers, american marines, being involved in an on-ground combat action alongside the kurds, or whoever on the ground in syria or anywhere else in iraq? >> i'm very much in favor of special forces some embedded trainers and others that literally make the difference between a fighting force that's capable and one that is not. that does not mean as the president always sets up the straw man, massive american troops, but what it does mean is that we have an injection of american forces that can give
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them the capability, both in the form of air controllers and also trainers and special forces and other capabilities that these military, particular the iraqi one does have around cluding working with the peshmerga. >> what is your thoughts senator, if this came to fruition? special operations, forward air controllers on the ground fighting alongside the kurds if they also found themselves alongside iranian special forces? >> that would be totally unacceptable and this whole idea of an unholy alliance between ourselves and iran i think is the worst idea i've ever heard in my life. iran is on the move and syria and lebanon, in iraq now in yemen. they sponsor the houthis. their interests and ours are directly opposite, and i would find that not only unacceptable i would find it to be immoral. >> senator, let me ask you about
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japan. obviously a couple days ago the "new york times" wrote a story about the fact japan actually for the first time in the post-war world is now actually talking about seeking revenge. military revenge. it's a perfect time to ask the question, should we demand from japan, from germany, from other countries that we've been carrying militarily now for 70 years, at least some sort of payment like they gave us in the first gulf war? some sort of assistance so taxpayers aren't carrying the bill themselves here in the united states? >> i think we should demand more participation. i don't think that's going to happen. look the fact they won't even give defensive -- and we won't either -- give defensive weapons to ukraine, which is watching we're watching being dismembered, but we do need a certain american leadership and recognize that probably the european countries as long as they are as far away as they are
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are 23409not going to be as heavily involved. abe announced their cons tagstitution paying more attention because of what happened in china. absolutely i support them. >> thank you so much senator mccain, for being on the show. >> always happy to be on. >> thank you. still ahead, how one baby can have three genetic parents? >> okay. i don't get that. i'll have to have mike barnicle explain. >> you understand? >> absolutely. >> i don't understand. >> i've been there. >> i don't think i want to hear that story, mike. >> and 1968? >> i don't want to hear about it that breakthrough and the controversy surrounding it, straight ahead. >> all right. the future of the market is never clear. but at t. rowe price we can help guide your retirement savings. our experience is one reason 100%
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welcome back everybody. have you heard about this jun britain's house of commons approving a controversial measure allowing one baby to have three genetic parents. >> wait, wait. mike says he understands this. like the summer of love and all that stuff. i don't get t. a little bit of math involved. >> is there? >> the uk is apparently well ahead of us. >> a little more than just math. >> nbc's katy tur has the full story. >> reporter: at first glance little jessica holliday looks like any healthy, happy baby. look closer. the 13-month-old struggles to swallow and hold her head up pap genetic disease preventing her from ever walking or talking and there is no cure. >> when you're told your daughter's going to die, it's really, really it's so hard to take. for them to say, oh by the way, anymore children that you have would also have the disease, it leaves you with no hope for the
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future. >> reporter: today uk lawmakers took the first steps to give parents like the hollidays back that hope. entering a brave new world of science. >> so the ayes have it. >> reporter: moving to allow three-parent babies to eliminate certain might oh con treeal diseases. they're the cells power source when they're defective they don't fuel healthy development. this new treatment solves the problem by taking the parents' dna and combining it with the healthy mitocondria of a third party a donor woman. >> the third party is only gishing healthy mito condrial. >> absolutely correct. >> reporter: it seems like a small step beyond in vitro fertilization but experts say a big step in our ability to manipulate life. >> today's step means we can take diseases that are 100% lethal and alter the course so that a husband and wife can have a healthy baby. >> reporter: detractors say this
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new step is a slippery slope that could lead to designer babies but for parents like vicki holliday. >> what they want us to go through, no words. absolutely incredible. >> reporter: it's a new chance for a healthy child. >> mike this is not the first time obviously great britain has been on the forefront in this area. "oui all remembered test tube baby, first coming out of britain? >> yeah. but the specter raised in that piece by katy tur is are we that far away from designer babies? >> no. i think designer babies are on their way. >> it's bolt technology with the medical advance, we can actually do that but we get to the slippery slope, parental lineage and what are you trying to craft in a child? >> exactly. >> it's ricksky. >> could have used a better you know, nose. better eyes. you know? i was born way too early.
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>> that's what beverly hills is for. >> oh is it really? so, you can do that. okay. very good. time for business before the bell. cnbc's sara eisen. what's going on? >> well, just got word private sector that is most companies, added 213,000 jobs last month. that was actually a little worse than expected. economists looking for a number like 223, but still on trend, more than 200,000. it signals that -- >> good. >> -- yeah the labor market on track. friday biggy. government jobs reports including both the private and public sector. economists looking for about 230,000 jobs added in the month of january. >> let's hope so and staples and office depot tried it before. trying it again? >> trying again. tried in 1997. trying again. staples buying office depot for the transaction of about $6 billion and the reason it wasn't approved back then is that there
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were all sorts of regulatory derns would be a monopoly. the two together almost $40 billion, raise prices on consumers but a new argument. can argue, hey, the competitive land shape changed. competing with amazon walmart, it's not just the big guys. it's online. think when you shop for school supplies. >> oil is back above $50. analysts don't expect it to stay that way but it lifted the market yesterday. what do you think? >> still, $50 a barrel higher than it's been. it's been in the $40s. last year average price for a barrel of oil was $93. >> goodness gracious. >> way off the high. analysts say, look this is where we're going to be for a while as long as saudi arabia indicates it's not going to cut production. >> right. >> and it's going to compete with the united states for market share. the question now is how much is that impacting some of the oil production in the u.s.?
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are they going to have to cut back, stop drilling and will that raise the price of oil even higher, just because these guys are getting hurt with these low prices? >> we shall see and obviously talk about isis but saudi arabia has a lot of reasons to continue to flood the markets, not only to hurt isis to hurt iran and a lot of geopolitical decisions based around these decisions. >> and russia. >> russia also right now helping the american consumer. sara eisen, thank you so much. coming up next think of it as a problem of problem-solving on steroids. how robotics and artificial intelligence are changing the world. the founder of the x prize coming up next and i'm going to ask about those creepy cars without drivers in it and why i would ever ever want to step -- would you do that barnicle? >> yes, i would. >> you would? okay. brave new world. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason?
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with us now chairman and ceo of the x prize foundation. out way new book "bold." you guys have so many big ideas, bold ideas, but talk about these exponential entrepreneurs? like yourself like others. talk about not only the wealth that they create, but also the big ideas they create that were change the world? >> sure. this book is specifically how to manual for not just the billionaires today but entrepreneurs in college coming out who have a dream. the realization is, today you've got access to extraordinary technologies. stuff that only the governments and largest corporations had 20 years ago. >> right. >> and -- >> which is one of the reasons, trying to figure out why you have so many gazillionaires now? so much exponential is the word. exponential entrepreneurs can
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mean exponential failure or suction. when you hit it you hit it really big. >> 1,000 years ago, only the kings and queen koss do anything on a national or regional level. 100 years ago, industrialist, now any of us really and truly passionate can access the world's information on google. infinite computing on a cloud. amazing. >> mike? >> your advice to someone sitting in a doctoral program at m.i.t. cal tech or anyplace actually. they read in the newspapers worldwide that there's a tremendous lack of pure water like say, in africa. >> yeah. >> how do you be bold enough to put together an enterprise to -- >> great question. one of the organizations i run is called single latery university and we source thousands of grad students around the world and come to silicon valley and teach them about exponential technologies mind-sets, access to crowd funding, crowd tools and say, the world's biggest problems clean water, food energy, are
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the world's biggest business opportunities, and it's truly this alignment in that if you want to become a billionaire, become a billion people. a small problem, you're capped. a problem that affecting a billion people you have the ability to truly impact the world in an extraordinary fashion, make a difference and create great wealth. >> how do people react to artificial intelligences take ago way from middle class jobs? google driverless cars and google wants to fund the taxi drivers against uber in their campaign. what do you say to people concerned about taking away regular good old jobs? >> take away the good old jobs forget that 150 years ago two-thirds of americans were farmers. how many of us go and actually raise our food and milk our cows today? are have very few. because we've moved up the job curve, and the ability for -- gallup poll that occurred a year and a half ago, 70% of americans
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don't enjoy their jobs. it's okay if ai and robots take that that and make it something you enjoy. making it cheaper and cheaper to live. heading toward artificial intelligence giving us health care that's free. diagnostic, much bitter than your physician. the billionaire in manhattan and poorest child in mumbai have equal health care the best education in the world. this is where technology is taking us and amazing opportunities entrepreneurs are building. >> fantastic. thank you so much. mike barnicle on this set we like the idea of your idea to extend longevity. 30 40 years of healthy living. >> good idea. we'll get you there. >> thank you. love having you here. the book fascinating and it is "bold: how to go billg, kraebtct
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hey, welcome back, kids. time to talk about what we learned today. we learned so much. what did you learn, mike? >> i learned that john mccain came off as a, pretty sensible today in his proposals of what he thinks what's going on in the middle east. no infusion of thousands of ground troops. >> yeah. balanced approach. thomas what did you learn? >> from peter, interesting how he put in context of farmers to
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artificial intelligence. obviously we don't grow our own food. things change. we tloern adapt. you have your own -- >> a rough transition from the age, the agriculture age to the industrial age and a lot of abuses a transition leaving a lot of people behind. >> scary to think about how just in the simple fact of a driverless car. that takes away good paying jobs and changes society for the course -- of the future. >> nice when we see more of those effects he was talking about. somebody in mumbai gets the same medical treatment as a billionaire in new york city. >> we shall see. if it's way too early, it's "morning joe." we've got "the rundown" straight ahead. see you tomorrow. thanks. good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. is a very busy morning here on "the rundown." breaking developments and a pair of deadly public transportation crashes. one on the rails north of new york city one in the air in taiwan caught in a dramatic
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dashcam video. in valhalla new york six killed after a commuter train leaving grand central station at the height of rush hour smashed into an suv caught between the crossing gates last night. more than a dozen others injured. and overnight in taiwan. jaw-dropping footage. take a look at this. transasia airways plane turning on its side in mid-air clipping a taxi and an eleva