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moment. >> jordan started to take revenge. >> all isis has done is put the king in a better position to use his power. >> jordanian war planes have become bombing isis targets. >> there's a lot of symbolism in the air strikes today. >> this is definitely a show of strength against isis. >> it can't just be a military response. it's got to be regional. >> this will have tremendous impact in the region. >> there's no question there's massive revolting. >> voices throughout the arab world says this is not islam. >> this is a group of murderous thugs. >> the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts. two days after isis released a video showing a jordanian pilot being burned alive, jordan is stepping up in the fight against isis. u.s. officials tell nbc news as many as 20 jordanian f-16s launched air strikes in syria today. jordan's vow for revenge and, quote, relentless war against isis comes as much of the arab
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world has erupted in outrage and rare concert against the group's brutality. with one breathtakingly vicious murder, the "the new york times" reports, the islamic state has united most of the region against it. but even in the face of widespread condemnation, news of brutality continues. the new video by isis urges attacks in france. they report some are speculating the fighter second from the right in that image could be a woman. perhaps the widow of french terrorist coulibaly. nbc news has not been able to confirm the fighter's identity or if she is in fact a woman. in the meantime isis continues the bloody cam tan. today a u.n. watchdog says isis militants are selling abducted iraqi children at markets as sex slaves and crucifying them or burying them alive. it is a savagery president obama condemned during the national prayer breakfast this morning.
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>> we see faith driving us to do right. but we also see faith being twisted. and distorted. used as a wedge, or sometimes worse, used as a weapon. we see isis the brutal vicious death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism. terrorizing religious minorities subjecting women rape and claiming religious authority as such actions. >> joining me now is to founder for women for women international. and nbc news foreign correspondent. aman, first to the idea that "the new york times" is reporting on. the execution of the jordanian pilot may have actually sort of
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turned the general opinion in the middle east against isis or built a stronger coalition than even existed before. how accurate do you think that is? >> it's really hard to kind of measure from a factual point of voi. i can tell you for the the past several months and i've traveled across the region. there's an open rejection of isis as an organization in the middle east. i don't think as a group isis had support or sympathy anywhere in the arab world. now i think this is a tipping point for more action. can this be a point where you have the the people in the middle east demanding that the governments not just carry out air strikes, but perhaps consider other options to really tackle the problems, whether sending in forces or doing more. not just standing in the back and condemning it as purely rhetorical and on the airways. >> i know you came back from the
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region. not from syria or iraq. give us a sense of the mood on the ground as this continues. >> this is an outrage. everyone is shocked and angry but i'm not sure if this is the tipping point from the discussion we need in islam. the response is to crucify and kill them. >> and your response -- you're speaking specifically of a prominent sunni institution in egypt that has suggested the proper retaliation is crucifix crucifixion. >> right. the school office. and so now thises for me is problematic. we need -- what we need to do is have a discussion within the religion that yes, we need a forceful response to isis. yes, with a military response. but the religion itself need to evolve in its discussion. to more about the goodness of
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the religion rather than killing and killing. >> and the headline that al azar is calling for crucifixion is deeply distressing. >> absolutely. so what i see is that fear is triggering another fear. we need a wider door for discussing islam values. who are we? what is the religion? this has not yet happened. we are dealing with military force with military force. i understand it's not my forte and expertise. i think there's another way to go to involve the the religious discussion right now. t. >> to that end, i want to bring in the former executive director of the white house office of faith based and neighborhood partnerships. joshua, the president's words this morning, i think surprised a lot of people. this is not the first time he's talked about isis but in the context of faith. i thought it was really important and provocative set of
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comments he made. what did you make about the fact that he brought this up at the national prayer breakfast? which is seen as a largely christian gathering? >> a conservative audience. i thought it was a really important statement. you no e, the president did a great job, i think, of drawing a distinction between those who misuse religion in the name of evil, and the religion the faith itself. and he said listen all faiths have experience with those who twist and manipulate the words of the profit for their own evil ins. whether in the crewusades or folks who participated in slavery or jim crow. now we have isis doing the same thing. the president was basically saying, this is not islam. isis represents american muslims, no more than the crusaders or slave holders represent christianity. particularly because a lot of americans don't know their muslim neighbors, who haven't spent a lot of time with the muslim-american folks in the community. and the president, i think,
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wanted to make clear that what we're seeing with isis does not at all reflect on muslims around the the world. >> and the it's also worth noting that he said the bloodshed in the name of sort of religious extremism is not foreign to many other religions in the world and brought up the subject of the crusade. something we were talking about before this segment began. and i agree with you. i think it was probably controversial. the idea that there would have been a bloodiness in the christian past that is in any way seen as kin to or parallel to the contemporary muslim world. >> he certainly made the point clearly at the prayer breakfast this morning. saying lest we forget being on the high horse in this having this discussion also in the name of christianity these things have happened in the past. there's also the evolution of liberalism within it. that hasn't happened yet in the muslim world. that has to do with societal problems. these are not free societies to engage in political debates,
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religious debates, socio economic debates. so there's a stagnation in this. >> and we have a chart of the trend towards extremism in the muslim world. it's increasing. so you talk about this intramuslim conversation needs to happen. and all signs are pointing to more extreme rhetoric. there you go. where is that? it's on five different countries. i can't read them. >> lebanon, egypt, jordan. >> your eyes are better than mine. >> and you know that's again disconcerting as we look for the response. >> absolutely. >> absolutely. and part of what was happening is that the governments are competing for the religious conservatism. in other words, they have succeeded in tilting the religion towards more conservative and more fundamental religiouses. but the religion itself has become much more conservative than it was 30 years ago.
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so it's creating an identity crisis. >> that's a really important point. 30 years is not a long time. >> not at all. >> in the name of the religion of islam. for it to have gone through such dramatic and rapid change considering how much centuries old this is. >> we have seen that before. i'm not going do draw parallels between the right and the fundamentalists fundamentalists. but christianity was defined by a conservative fundamentalist group of leaders, tell advantagist lists, and now you have other voices emerging. things are trending in a direction that is more thoughtful, more inclusive. seeks to engage a broader range of issues. and so these ebbs and flows happen in waves. unfortunately we're seeing a conservative flow in the islamic tradition. >> it is important.
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the evangelical christianity and the extremism within that circle is in no way related to what is happening in the muslim world. and i would say, i mean i would actually ask you, setting isis aside. isis is something else. even in mainstream practice of islam, you have seen an extremism. within the sort of center of the religion. >> yes, a more conservative values. so the values i grew up with everyone grew up with 30 years ago, 40 years ago are no longer the same values of that happening now. and so the most common statement is what is the religion? the one i grew up with as a child or they're telling me it is what it is right now. and these values are simple? i grew up in a religion that most women were not covering and right now most women are covering themselves ls. i grew up in a religion where most women are working in the the tvs and the movies. these are symbolic things.
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but the religion has indeed tilted towards more conservative values. the problem is -- >> well, you're a muslim woman. you're not at all what the contemporary sort of global perception of a muslim woman looks like. >> but a lot of women -- >> very much like that. i'm a normal muslim woman. not an exception. the problem is we have to have more space for liberal values and discussion within islam to emerge. right now the values cannot exist. these voices cannot exist in the middle east. they also got prosecuted. and we also are getting killed and lashed and all of these things by their own governments. that's a problem. we need to open the ventilator for those providing an alternative and talking about the religion in new terminology. in terminologies of love and forgiveness and kindness. these people are not allowed to talk right now. >> aman let me ask you practically in theerms of what is happening in the campaign against isis. if you look at the number of air strikes and who is leading them. in syria, 943 u.s.-led air
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strikes and 79 nonu.s.-led air strikes. 352 non u.s. not exactly the same. but the overwhelm pg majoritying majority is conducted by u.s. air forces. do you think that ratio changes in the the next few months. obviously you don't have a crystal ball. >> i don't. the simple reason is the united states is going to be picking up the bulk of the military operations. the bottom line is no coalition without the united states. that's why the united states needed the coalition to have the, unni arab countries. i don't think -- certainly maybe not publicly. but militarily the numbers speak for themselves ls the lion's share of air strikes and the big part of the operation, it's certainly because of the united states and the technical and military capabilities. so i don't see that changing. we need to ask how long this will continue. if nst not achieving the stated
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objectives, right. and the pentagon said this is not going to be a military solution alone. how they are going to be implemented on the ground. zblf let me ask you before we go. the president has criticism from folks in the right wing for not denouncing isis as a radical islamic terrorism. what did you think about his comments today as far as neutralizing that criticism? >> well i think it was a full throated denouncement of isis. in some way he was defending all religion. he said religion is not what these people's twist and skew and make it out to be. whether it's isis skewing the islamic tradition or folk who is have skewed christianity in the past. and so i think he was very vehement in pointing out how evil isis is.
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making the distinct. >> thank you. that was a very awesome and enlightening conversation in the face of a very, very dark chapter. coming up, there is one thing jeb bush will not tolerate. he will ask you to step outside and fight if if we bring it up. we'll tell you what it is after the break. there's new clues as to why the plane went down in taiwan just after takeoff. and later, a pentagon study from 2008 just made public today suggests vladimir putin could have a form of autism. all of that is ahead on "now." ♪ (playful growl) vo: because every moment matters, so does your network. verizon. this valentine's day get $100 off a swarovski crystal battery cover or the samsung gear s. perfect with a new samsung galaxy note 4 for $0 down with edge. plus, get a $100 bill credit for each
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my dad is the greatest man alive. anyone who disagrees, we'll go outside. unless you're like 6'5" and 250 then we'll negotiate. i'm still not going to change my mind. and i love my brother. he has been a great president. >> jeb is owning the bush family name, and apparently he's willing to fight for it. but the former florida governor and likely 2016 hopeful is not exactly embracing all his predecessors. especially the guy who won the republican nomination last time around. >> tens of millions of americans longer see a clear path to rise above their challenges. something is holding them back. not a lack of of ambition. not a lack of hope. no because they're lazy or see themselves as victims. something else. something as an artificial weight on their shoulders. >> if that terminology sounds familiar, it's the exact inverse of mitt romney's infamous 47%
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comments in the last presidential election. he criticized the 47% of americans who, quote, believe they are victims. just how much the 2016 front-runners embrace their successors is an issue on the front and the left. they have tapped current white house communications director for a similar role in her presidential bid. she will join the outgoing white house counselor and a slew of former obama digital staffers on clinton's likely 2016 campaign. joining me now is former governor of vermont and chair of the dnc, howard dean. governor dean let me start with jeb bush owning. >> very smart. >> i think it's the right strategy. >> if the democrats owned obama, we may not have lost the senate. you cannot run from who you are.
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he is going to be a bush no matter what he says about it. the bush family has a motto. i think it's a motto. never complain. never explain. i keep saying when are you going to get it? stop running from who you are. bill clinton always said people will vote for someone strong and wrong before they vote for somebody weak and right. we have to listen to that. >> take your cues for the bush family. >> obviously i don't want jeb. as much as i think he's a decent guy, i don't want him to be president. you have to be straight ahead and stand up for who you are or people won't respect you. >> i want to know what you thought of jeb's rhetoric around policy is very different than mitt romney. that seems to be a conscious decision. at the same point, there's a point where there needs to be policy prescriptions. and the climate, it feels like
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if you listen to scott walker on this, it's still very much in the far right end of the spectrum. >> he can't move them very much. he's responding to it with aen interesting three-part strategy. this is a campaign strategy not a government strategy. so part one is he's super accessible to the media. not since john mccain in 2000 -- maybe governor dean have we had a serious candidate for president be so available to so many people. i've been watching hours of his you tube videos. that creates impression that he's relatable. he's approachable. you can connect with him. second, he is focusing on micro problems. he did that today. the people said the president can't do anything about taxing
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regulation. he is showing, i'm a problemsoever. >> using the example of uber. >> right. i get things done. i'm not worried about these abstract things. and last he's totally differentiating himself from the poor and the middle class that hurt the republicans so much in 2012. he's doing that on tone. there's a limit to how far the party will let him go on substance substance. >> when you hear him outline that, there's a lot of concern and speculation about what hillary clinton's message is going to be in 2016. the fact she brought in former obama staffers. given the strengths they have managing a very different candidate and president. >> well let's remember thermoformer clinton staffers before obama staffers. i see them coming home to the
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people who gave them their start, which is smart to do. john padesta is a real grown-up. he's the smartest in washington on how things need to work. he's done it a lot. he has an incredible career. for him to be the chair of the campaign, i'm sure that's where she's coming over. he has an enormous amount of self restraint. >> and for sure i feel like he's more of a clinton person than an obama person. >> right. far greater than his time inside the obama white house. in terms of hillary's message, i would like to get both of your thoughts on this. do you have a since of what that is? >> yeah do you have a sense that she knows why she's running? >> i certainly do know that. i wouldn't leave it to her.
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i think se deserves that courtesy. and i assume her strategy is to wait until jal. and i think that makes a great deal of sense. >> what do you think about the obstacles that exist or maybe they don't, in advance of an outstanding seat. >> well i understand why she's delaying it. she wants to remain a figure above politics as long as possible. but here's the problem if she delays. she has, as the governor was careful not to say, she has two messages. the message she's trying to broadcast and the one she's in danger of really broadcasting. she wants to broadcast i have a middle class agenda. i have your pre-k here. i'm going to continue initiatives by the president about community college. the risk is the inner message,
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which is it's my turn damn it. i want this job. bill owes me. the party owes me. the nation owes me. me me, me. >> i don't know david, me me me is harsh. i don't see hillary like that. but to your point about this feeling like a coronation and something she's due. that will be the media. the reason she is not in the race is she doesn't want to be. let me let you finish. she needs to have her policy message out i would say sooner not later. she thinks she's staying above politics. she's rat iing if "it's my turn story. >> and that's in the absence of saying what it is you're running for. >> i totally disagree. >> why is that? >> there will be so much noise
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and fury. can you imagine rand paul tweeting every day? >> i feel like there's some worrying and criticism on the left side of the spectrum too? >> yeah but it's not serious be to be honest with you. i know people are trying to recruit elizabeth warren. i also know the polling showed on the left elizabeth warren is a huge favorite. they really like hillary clinton too. they would be happy to vote for her if p hiz beth warren doesn't run. this is a unified party. i this think what hillary is doing is really smart. i know people would like to say this is a coronation. she's being smart. i don't think jeb bush is a shoe in for the nomination at all. hay may well be scott walker. i think he's been an awful governor. but he's a very good politician. if he's the right they coalesce
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secretary of state john kerry is in kiev as the u.s. weighs whether to provide defensive lethal aid to ukraine in the fight against prorussian separatists. he expressed deep concern ha the violence in ukraine is escalating and criticized russia for the aggression. >> far from meeting the commitments, russia and the separatists are seizing more territory, terrorizing more citizens, and refusing to participate in serious negotiations. let there will be no doubt about who is blocking the prospect of peace here. >> secretary kerry said russian president vladimir putin can make choices to end the war. but how to convince putin to make the choices is a mart of debate. that comes with an interesting twist. usa today obtained a 2008 study
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from a pentagon think tank that theorizes he may have a version of autism. while it remains unproven, researchers base the theory on movement pattern analysis of his behavior and facial expressions. the report concludes his primary form of compensation is extreme control, reflected in his decision style and how he governs. it is not known whether the research was acted upon by the pentagon or the obama administration. but it does prevent fascinate questions about how an analysis of putin's behavior may influence the strategy. joining me now is the contributing writer for "new york times" magazine and dr. frank, let me start with you first. the idea of motion -- sorry, movement pattern analysis. can you give us a sense of what it is and how much it can tell
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us about the neurological profile? >> well it started in the '40s and 50s. it was originally learned to help people move and dance and assess their movement. now they've been applied to understanding politicians by looking at facial expression posture, hand movement. the question is will i punch you or get a glass of water? they try to analyze little differences. and make assess ms on how people make decisions about, say, whether they are going to punch you or are going to get a glass of water. i find it very interesting. but not necessarily useful. >> julia, the other shocking part of this is this is a study funded by the d.o.d. by the
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pentagon. >> yes. presumably to help inform the foreign strategy. how surprising did you find this? >> at first i thought this was something that had gone -- had gone from the russia state press and through some weird filter. >> it feels the same. >> like the exploding cigar. and i'm also amazed that we're spending this taxpayer dollars for something that is so inaccurate. i mean the report said that some kind of early childhood brain trauma of which we have no evidence caused putin's alleged asperger's which he clearly does not have. but also brain trauma does not cause asts as per --
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>> and in terms o f the conclusion here, and it's not a full-time conclusion. and the doctors say in their reports they don't diagnose him, but how accurate do you think that could be given the evidence in the study they've done thus far? >> well given the evidence thus far, i don't think it's accurate. there's no way to have it accurate. i agree with the other speaker. lots of people have traits of asperger's syndrome. as many as 10% of boys have some aspect of that. so it is a serious thing. and what's interesting to me as a psycho analyst is that we normally think about motive and meaning, and people who have full-fledged asperger's think about doing the right thing. they're not concerned about
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empathy or the impact of other people. they have a confident and steady view of how the world is chaotic and they are clear and direct. i don't know it's true of putin. i don't think that's putin either, from what i know of him. that's the typical person. i treat them in my practice. a lot. >> in terms of how we think of vladimir putin and the character you know him to be or his character, how does that dove take or not with the conclusions of this report? >> he actually does think a lot about other people's reactions. he's a careful collaborator. he's very good i don't know perhaps paranoid but middle east very close -- i don't know
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scholar of other people's reactions around him. that doesn't sound like asperger's to me. the other dags in the russian press, there was a story about the ukrainian president having links to the the devil. this is to me on the same level. >> the conclusion that julia mentioned at the beginning of the segment. there was some sort of traumatic brain injury that vladimir putin may have sustained in his early developmental stages. i mean how can -- from the medical perspective, can one gather that kind of information without having examined someone? >> no, they cannot. one has to examine them. hopefully with their permission and study their brain and all kinds of things. there's no way to draw that conclusion. it's highly speculative. i think they have hired
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psychiatrists to try to analyze foreign leaders, which is something that has been started since roosevelt wanted to analyze hitler. and they have thoughtful analyses in a lot of ways. but this is very different. they do very extensive research. it is interesting to watch how people move and act and behave. if someone going to ask me for a diagnosis was, i would say my diagnosis is vladimir putin. that's it. >> he's on the speck truck of vladimir putin. >> yes. there the foreign policy here. if you need to do things with putin, you don't want to be in a big state affair but more of a one-on-one situation somewhere else. you don't generally want to do that? not doing it in the big room.
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do you think that's a strategy we pursue regardless of the conclusions of this report? >> yeah. yeah. i mean you took the words out of my mouth. i don't know what leaders take it to discuss fine points of policy. no i don't think we do. vladimir putin likes being sur round surrounded by people. think about the olympics a year ago. he loves that stuff. in terms of discussing sensitive matters of foreign policy, i don't think there's any leader in the world you would talk to in a loud crowded space. >> he also sang on blueberry hill. do you remember that? >> not exactly the behavior of someone who does not like big crowds. but then i don't know. go ahead dr. frank. >> can i say? >> go ahead.
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everybody does have -- a lot of people have certain traits interesting to watch. like, for instance, r putin is at times impulsive. like when he got off the stage and kissed the little boy, or girl i guess, in the tummy. it was so cute. he didn't justify it. he said it was a cute child, and i felt like it. he justifies impulses a lot of times after the fact and closes the book. he does not think about things after they're done. that could aly to a lot of people. >> the instructions given in the example about him not being in a large group. that could apply to anybody with adhd. they get distracted all the time. >> it is a provocative study to say the very least. julia and dr. dustin frank. thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up cochair amy pascal will step down in the wake of one of the worst cyber
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some 80 million anthem health insurance customers are getting word today they've been hacked. an e-mail from the company informed customers that hackers gained access to their names, birthdays, social security numbers, addresses and employment data. it could be the largest health
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care data breach to date. mane while, fresh fallout from the scandal from sony pictures after it suffered one of the worst cyber attacks in history. there were reports congress is preparing more sanctions against north california for the hack. and amy pascal, the co-chairman who green lighted a movie called "the interview" is said to be stepping down. join pg me now is senior reporter at the hollywood reporter rebecca sun. amy pascal seems to be putting on a happy face about the change. how much is this fallout from the hack? >> i think it's definitely directly related to the hack. she's always been for better or for worse, the public image of studio and the one who took the biggest hit to her public image.
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there had been speculation last month someone was going to take the fall and most likely it would be her. >> you look at -- according to sony, the hack cost 15$15 million. it complicated the release of a major motion pictures. it sounds like the dollars were made up in the promotion. in terms of the ultimate goals, they seemed successful in derailing a major american motion picture and the studio that produced it. >> right. certainly they disrupted the operations of the major corporation to a stunning degree. and a really crippled the studio. in a way that they're still going to try to recover from you know the fire bomb of their systems. you know, they still have to rebuild the computer systems, rebuild a lot of relationships.
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both with hollywood as well as beyond, as you can see, you know. some of the leaked e-mails concerning politics and things like that. and a huge financial loss. it's really amazing the amount of damage they were able to do. they are making money because of the digital release. they are making a lot more money than they would have made in theaters. and i wonder from the hollywood perspective, how much of this is maybe a new path forward for how motion pictures are released? >> absolutely. you know. i think this idea of movies getting a simultaneous theatrical release has been something they were talking about. i don't think this is the way anybody would have anticipated the pioneer, you know the pioneering film to take place. but it does show you know it's
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possible to make that much money from the v.o.d. release. you know. this film was, you know, it was budgeted as a major studio release. and so certainly that title was already more prominent going in with more well named stars. big name stars as well as bigger budget. but, you know it's still going to be tricky because the theater owners were always against, you know, a movie coming out on the platform simultaneously. that will still be an ongoing negotiation. studios will have to somehow be able to please the theater owners at the same time as trying to sort of navigate this new path. >> and certainly that v.o.d. release benefitted from a global conversation about "the interview" and viewings being seen as patriotic duty. not every movie will have that discussion around it. >> exactly. >> rebecca, thank you very much. good to see you. >> good to see you. coming up scandal in the
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what started out as a story about strange office decor has given rise to stories about the office itself. the communications director and senior policy adviser to aaron shock resigned over allegeded comments he made on his personal facebook page. this morning, benjamin cole the staffer who we reported on this program, tried to prevent those office photos those downtown abbey photos from being published. one post from 2013 compared african-americans to zoo animals conducting mating rituals. another referred to the hood rat
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on his street. in a 2010 post cole wrote he's all too worrieded about the deportables. he wrote i am extremely disappointed. with that member of my team. mr. cole offered his resignation, which i have accepted. he did not respond to nbc news request for comment. that's all for now. "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening, americans. welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. we have a lot of work to do. let's get to work. >> trade agreements set the rule to the global economy. >> trade balance at minus 46.6 billion. >> that is definitely a bigger
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much bigger deficit than we were looking for. >> there will be a giant sucking sound going south. >> a picture of u.s. job loss resulting from our trade. >> precisely the same middle class manufacturing and technology jobs that made that american dream. >> it's the law of the jungle. >> good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we start this evening with a very important issue that absolutely no one is talking about, trade. tonight the progressive caucus the democrats are going to get together