expecting the unemployment rate to hold study at 5 a.63%. a lawsuit filed on behalf of adrian peterson is upheld peterson's suspension. that's going to do it for "way too early." happy friday. what day is it? >> payday friday. >> "morning joe" starts right now. it is the top of the hour. and it is friday. thank god. >> it is friday. >> it's friday. mike barnicle is here. senior political editor for the huffington post. sam stein is here too. no school. >> hi. >> how is it going to. >> can't complain. >> long week. let's get to the news. jordan is not backing down its efforts to take the fight to islamic state militants. they unleashed a new round of air strikes in syria following the apparent burning death of

jordanian pilot. jordan's army says this is just the beginning. it was a moving scene as jordan's king abdullah met with the pilot's family and embrace his father. nbc's andrea mitchell has more. >> reporter: jordan struck back hard. dozens of f-16s hit isis weapons supply centers in syria. the gun camera video showed on jordan state tv and facebook page with patriotic music. the operation after the slain pilot. slogans on their jets reading, we are beating them. the targets chosen by the u.s. coalition but handed off to jordan's pilots in difference to their tragedy. 21 american aircraft flew escort. the returning f-16s flew over the pilot's village as king abdullah braced his father plemging his son's death would not be in vain. and state tv and social media

showed jordan's ground forces training and the king of veteran pilot dressed for action. >> they have a first rate military. no question about it. they've got an excellent intelligence service and lots of friends in the middle east. >> reporter: while in amman the pilot's brother was cheered by thousands. this student said it was the way he was killed being burned alive, considered antiislamic, that united the country. >> unbelievable. mike barnicle yesterday was talking about a former u.s. intelligence official who just sent me a quick e-mail saying they screwed with the wrong king. he used different words. but just said that this is you know, this is a guy who didn't believe last year that he might survive the year. now he -- he's leading the fight against isis. >> yeah. and as general mccaffrey pointed out. he has a first rate air force

and a very skilled intelligence apparatus. the question would be, i would think, is jordan's staying power and commitment to this given how volatile the middle east is and always has been over the last two or three years. >> i think it's highly symbolic but you talk about the isolation, the complete isolation of isis sam, and again, we talked about it this past week. enraging japan, getting the united states out of its post sort of more on an isolation post than we've been in in years of occupation. and now in jordan in the heart of the middle east. they are somehow managing to offend everybody on the planet. >> yeah. there's two questions that i have about all of this and neither of which i feel like i can answer because i don't have the expertise in it. but one is are they doing this on purpose? is isis doing this on purpose to draw a country into syria to make it easier for them to attack? i don't know. the second is, related question

is how effective are air strikes alone? at what point does jordan and other countries say, okay we need to commit more ground troops in there and can they? is that the type of theater in which they can operate. i don't know the answer to either of those but those seem like the two critical questions underlying all of this. >> it's hard to say. in the air strikes in bosnia it worked. >> yeah. >> sometimes it does work. here with this case you have again, you don't have a state. >> right. >> you just have a desperate agenters. >> yeah. >> and it's certainly should be able to if not defeat them and eradicate the threat it should at least be able to get them out of iraq and then we can decide what happens. >> we have another illustration of just how twisted the isis value system is. and this is extremely disturbing, what i'm about to say. we know that they've been slaved and beheaded children and now

female supporters of isis have reportedly written a length then manual detailing life inside the islamic state to debunk what they say is myths. the bbc says a document condones that girls be married as young as 9 years old but not much later than 16 or 17. they should be educated between the ages of 7 and 15 but after that age, women should accept their role in home and live life from behind a vail. by one count women make up 10% of the foreign recruits that have joined the terror groups. >> marriage marrying girls as young as 9. you sew i sawknow, i saw this document last month. i couldn't believe it. it popped up again last night on the bbc. it just shows the complete twisted mindset of these people. >> we've got our correspondents in the field to cover this story. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is

in irbil, iraq. how do we expect this to play out? >> that's right. he said there they screwed with the wrong king. in a sense they mess we'd the wrong country. there are extraordinary things here. thousands on the streets protesting against isis. we're hearing from sources here that the king has been lead that demonstration today. it is really important, guys because this country is almost entirely a sunni muslim country. so for it to be overwhelmingly turning against isis in this way is really really crucial. having said that it's important that we don't try and paint the picture as if this is just happening now. it's worth remembering that for example, isis attacked the iraqi jordanian border. that's not confirmed but that's what has been reported. just towards the end of last year. so this country has had a long

fight with extremism with sunni extremism. and this is the later stage of it. it does seem to be galvanizing opinion here galvanizing support behind those air raids. >> keir isn't it amazing just a year ago you had the king openly speculating about his own -- his own future in the country. i had many people -- we were talking about setting up an interview and somebody said well, if you're going to interview him you better get over there fast baz he may not be around by the end of the year. >> yeah. >> and then the -- he says this same thing. my how things have changed quickly. >> that's right. king abdullah have led huge stability to this country, primarily his father too, brought that to this country. of course, this is a place that doesn't have much in the way of democracy but it does have a lot in the way of safety.

it has a very powerful intelligence service that -- cause terrorist attacks. you lost me there, guys. >> we lost you. you froze up. thank you. we greatly appreciate it. let's go to richard engel. richard, give us an idea of the situation there on the ground in northern iraq. >> well, let me just start by continuing what keir was saying before he got cut off. this is a defining moment for. >> well -- >> good feed today guys. >> isis is on to iraq and jordan. we'll try to get richard back. it is striking though that this young king, mike barnicle who is not quite so young now, has stepped in and has been under fire for quite some time. it appears that isis -- you

talked about whether isis wants people to come into the region or not. i think one of the great ironies is that isis is actually unified a lot of muslims who are uneasy with the king and uneasy with other leaders in the region. and actually. strengthened their own position at home. >> the bar-- >> he's back. >> richard engel, we're back with you. you were saying one of the pivotal points -- >> i'm back. i was saying this is a -- this is a defining moment for the i think can. and here's just an an dote of how the king has been handling this. in jordan and across the arab world, when somebody dies his family will set -- >> all right. >> isis. >> it is. so anyway, hike finish what you were going to say. >> jordan obviously for the last year, year and a half everyone has been talking about i here on this program and other programs the weight of the refugee

problem they've had with spilling over the border from syria into jordan has been a real waiteight that jordan has carried. now we're going to find out how long the fever to crush isis is going to stay. >> they were effected more maybe them and turkey perhaps than any other country by the syria crisis because of the sheer amount of refugees crossing over the border. jordan was in this weird political situation which is how much do they get involved because it's affects them. keep in mind the weird tenet of the president of the policy isis is to recruit moderate muslims to go take the war to isis in syria. now, i don't know if that's going to consist of jordanians. i don't know if it's just going to be syrian moderates. they're supposed to be training in saudi arabia. but you can imagine or you can at least see a situation in which more of these barbaric acts in isis do the recruitment for the united states. let's go from overseas to

home in washington, d.c. >> a little bit of controversy in washington. the president stirred that up. but the national prayer breakfast in washington thursday speaking out about extremism. the president challenged christians to reflect on their own religious history. >> we also see things being twisted and distorted, used as a wedge, or worse, sometimes used as a weapon. we see isil brutal vicious, death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism. how do we as people of faith reconcile these realities. the profound good, the strength the tenacity the compassion and love that can flow from all of our faiths operating alongside those who seek to hijack religious for their own

murderous sense, the humanity has been grappling with these questions throughout human history history, unless we get on oirur high horse and think this is unique to some other place, remember that during the crusades people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. in our home country, slavery and jim crowe all too often was justified in the name of christ. >> i mean -- >> critics slammed the president. >> -- baffling to me. >> calling his comments a false moral comparison. among them former republican governor jim gilmore of virginia accused the president of offending all christians in remarks he framed as most quote the most offensive i've ever heard the president make. >> unbelievable. the president having to go back 700, 800, 900 years?

you see this when you have people that somehow want to paint a broad brush. yes, radical islam is bad but look what christianity does. really, you have to go back 800 years to a cruise said which, by the way, most historians say christians launched in response to years and years of muslims taking over their former land. this is -- this is -- >> i think the timing is bad. i think it's a bigger conversation as to whether or not it's okay to have you know -- >> why does he -- >> i'm not arguing this. >> -- feel the need to go back 800 years? the stupid left wing moral equivalency. sometimes you can just say -- sometimes you just say, hey, you know what there are some really really bad muslim extremists. you don't have to go to the other side oh, and christians are bad, too. there is such a desperate plea for some reason on the left to do that for some people on the

left. i saw a cnn documentary maybe five, six years ago and it was -- it was, you know extremism in the name of god. and they -- they were so desperate to find jewish examples of extremism and then this was right after 9/11. and then their example for christian examples of extremism was some schools -- some christian schools in america actually make women wear skirts below their knees. how ghastly. let's see. wear skirts below your knees on this side at fundamentalist schools, blow up the world trade center on this side. >> okay. >> no it's not okay. it's not okay for this president. you almost have to ask the question, where did he go to

church? where would he get such ideas from? >> he has -- he has certainly made better speeches. you would have to admit that. linking what is going on today with the inquisition and the crusades. i mean i think a lot of people are aware of -- >> could you put some vodka in here? >> thanks. >> okay. >> come on. it's so funny, sam stein, what's so funny is sam, is when liberals pseudo-intellectuals make these arguments they don't realize they make themselves look foolish. >> i think he was reverting to his post-presidency academic mode where he wanted to draw these his or ral moral equivalencies. the broader point that religion can be perverted. but you don't have to do that with the context with isis all around you. i need to find a my outraged dad because jim gilmore saying this is the most offensive thing. >> i know. >> let's just -- it's stupid.

it was dumb. it was ill timed. was it like am i going to remember it in a week? probably not. >> what was stupid, dumb and ill timed? >> the president's speech. >> just want toetd get that on the record. mika? >> i think there are -- there's a bigger conversation there. >> of course there is. that's the point. there is a bigger conversation. >> i'm not outraged by this. i just agree with sam. it's just stupid and dumb. somebody is trying i'm a pseudo-intellectual. people have died in the name of christianity, than anything. no actually over 100 million people were killed by communists. >> perversion of religion. don't do it while you're president. post-presidential life. >> if you want to talk about the perversion of religion don't pervert the facts. >> yeah. >> that's the irony here. again, how many of us -- >> jim gilmore now. >> i'm talking about the president. i'm talking about drunk ufrkncle sitting around the team saying people died in the name of jesus christ than anybody else while the communist killed over 100 million of their own people in the 20th century.

no it's not even close, actually, drunk uncle sal, okay? take your pseudo-intellectual b.s. and -- >> don't bring drunk uncle sal into this. >> who exactly is drunk? >> let's move into something more uplifting. what many would call a bad week for a new jersey governor possible 2016 candidate -- >> it's getting worse. >> -- has just gotten worse. bennett barland, a former assistant prosecutor confirms he met with two federal investigators about his civil suit against christie's administration. he claims he was fired because he would not drop an indictment against several allies of the governor including a county sheriff. he spoke to nbc's kelly o'donnell last year about the accusations which christie denies any involvement with. >> the attorney general basically swooped in and killed the case after these three individuals were indicted. that raised political flags, especially given the fact that one of the defendants, after

being indicted specifically said, and this was reported in the local papers governor christie is going to come in and kill the case. frankly, that's exactly what happened. >> and the citizens for ethics and responsibility in washington a democratic-leaning watchdog group is now calling for a state ethics investigation of christie. it is related to "new york times" story this week that the governor flew casino owner sheldon aidleson's private plane in 201 and jordan's king abdullah paid for a family weekend at the end of that trip. this comes after governor christie was criticized during a trip to the united kingdom for saying there should be a balance on the issue of mandatory vaccinations. now to the controversy surrounding the anchor of nbc nightly news brian williams. we're going to walk you through what has happened so far. so last week on "nightly news" williams recounted a moment from his time embedded with the u.s. army during the iraq invasion.

>> the story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of iraq when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an rpg. our traveling nbc news team was rescued surrounded and kept alive by an armored mechanized platoon from the u.s. army third infantry. >> it was a story that williams had told several times over the years. including in detail during one appearance on "late night with david letterman" in 2013. according to "variety" a person familiar with the situation said they counseled williams in the past to stop telling the story in public though this is disputed by someone familiar with current nbc news operations. after friday's recounting, one of the crew members of that helicopter challenged williams with this facebook post. sorry. i don't remember you being on my aircraft. i do remember you walking up about a hour after we had landed to ask me what had happened. other crew members confirmed

this discrepancy to the military magazine "stars and stripes." on wednesday williams addressed the issue. >> on this broadcast last week in an effort to honor and thank a veteran who protected me and so many others after a ground fire incident in the desert during the iraq war invasion, i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. it did not take long to hear from some brave men and women in the air crews who were also in that desert. i want to apologize. i said i was traveling in an aircraft that was hit by rpg fire. i was instead in a following aircraft. we all landed after the ground fire incident and spent two harrowing nights in a sandstorm in the iraq desert. this was a bungled at event the by me to thank one special veteran and, by extension, our brave military men and women, veterans everywhere those who have served while i did not.

i hope they know they have my greatest respect and also now my apology. >> williams also took to facebook writing to members of the crew in part i feel terrible about making this mistake, especially since i found my own writing about the incident from back in '08 and i was indeed on the chinook behind the bird that took the rpg in the tail housing just above the ramp. because i have no desire to fictionalize my experience, we all saw it happened the first time, and no need to dramatize events as they actually happened, i think the constant viewing of this video showing us inspecting the impact area and the fog of memory over 12 years, made me conflate the two, and i apologize. reaction online and by many media critics and veterans was swift and often harsh and mocking in tone. extensive coverage of the story includes pieces by the "new york times," "washington post," "baltimore sun" and "usa today"

for some calling for mr. williams to be fired. others came out in support of williams including paul the founder of iraq and afghanistan veterans of america who urged veterans to for give mr. williams. yesterday on cnn the pilot in the chinook in which williams was riding offered his version of the events. >> mr. williams was onboard my aircraft. we took small arms fire. all i know is one rpg was fired. it struck the lead aircraft which was about what we call six rotor disks in front of me. >> when he claimed last week that his helicopter had been hit by an rpg. that's obviously not true true. do you take issue with other parts of the story that he's been telling for years that the helicopter took small arms fire and that he was scares? >> well, no. we were all scared. that's the truth. you know there's minor details here and there.

once we landed we set up a perimeter of the three chinooks. he talked about the bradley third id guys coming in. they were a great help but they didn't show up until almost a day and a half later. you know they were just passing by and happened luckily to see us through the dust storm. you know there's just minor details but that's 12 years ago. but generic that he was there at the time of the attack. >> there is, of course this morning a dispute that krell even was the pilot of that helicopter. other crew members say he does not. in fact, the pilot who was, mika the guy who also claims he was the pilot of the helicopter actually says krell misremembers everything. so there's even a confusion there. >> his account does seem to differ from what crew members and the lead chopper told "stars and stripes" that williams was, quote, nowhere near that aircraft or two other chinooks flying in the formation that took fire.

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mika i just learned something interesting at thomas. >> what's that? >> i asked thomas what he was going to do this weekend because you look at thomas, he's dshing he's good looking. everybody likes thomas. he's going to have a crazy -- i said, what are you going to do this weekend. thomas said, i'm going to pay the mortgage. i said don't you have one of these automatic withdrawal things where you draw it and you said -- >> that will ripple effect me. i got to pay things -- i'm slow paying. >> you write it down? >> yeah. >> you just kind of let it float? >> 42-year-old me still pays things like 21-year-old me. >> time to look at the morning papers. let's start with the "new york times." radio shack has filed for chapter 11 bankruptcy after striking a deal to sell more than half of the stores to its two biggest shareholders sprint

and standard general. radio shack has been struggling financially for years and profits for the company plummeted in the face of rival tech stores and online competition. radio shack will continue to operate normally through the bankruptcy proceedings. >> this is a place that's -- they just had a terrible time. >> they have. technology has surpassed them. i remember being so excited as a teen to go to radio shack for the newest stuff. >> get all the robots. >> yeah. robotic cars. >> sony walkman. >> yeah. i got one of those at radio shack last night. >> still use mine. is that bad? >> no. >> they're great. >> "washington post," how pope francis is about to mick history once again. >> awesome. >> we've got to go to congress. >> i know. he's going to become the first pope to address a joint session of congress. the pope is also receiving attention for recent comments about disciplining children while speaking about the role of fathers. the pope said, quote, one time i heard a father in a meeting with married couples say i sometimes

have to spank my children a bit. but never in the face so as not to humiliate them. how beautiful. he knows the sense of dignity. he has to punish them but does it justly and moves on. >> he's okay with spanking. >> don't leave a mark. >> what about a hairbrush on the side of the highway. >> that's how your parents did it? >> yep. >> we got spanked a lot. >> you went to catholic school as kill. you know the nuns did. >> by the time i went to catholic school i was 6'4" and cool. i was also a baptist. unlike most of the catholics at this school -- >> you were well behaved. >> i was well behaved. i knew the bible. no, but my dad, it was all one motion. he would be driving. take off the belt and just blind swipe across the back to the three kids. going to beat hell out of you, i think was the word. he was gentle giant. >> all three with one lick? >> yeah. i mean it was more of a we of-- more of a wild pop. >> he never hit george.

>> we all learned to dive. >> my sister and me we would inflict i the most -- she was six years old we than me. >> george never got in trouble and you got in all the trouble. the pew research center survey of 671 investigative journalists found that 64% believe the u.s. government is monitoring their e-mail phone call and online searches. about 14% say concerns over federal spying have kept them from pursuing a story or made them consider leaving investigative journalism all together. although government surveillance is a top concern for journalist 88% of those surveyed cited decreasing resources in "newsroom"s as the biggest challenge they face today. >> wow. >> business loss. frustrating. we need investigative journalists. >> spouse investigating your phone. >> exactly. what do you -- >> how is that working for you? >> okay so far. >> you can do that.

if you do a -- rick asked for information, they will react everything. you will get nothing. >> a piece of paper but it will be blacked out. >> you're more concerned about your spouse investigating your phone than the government? >> most likely. "the washington post" not all new rules are meant to address a problem. some are just intended to make things clear. we have officials at harvard saying that is a case for a new policy formally banning sexual romantic relationships between professor and undergraduates. they changed the language suggesting it's okay to be involved as long as the student wasn't in the professor's class. yale and university of connecticut have similar policies. as bloomberg reports, most universities discourage such relationships however they don't out right ban them. a telegraph. a woman in the uk was shocked when the opened a can of princess tuna -- >> i don't like where this is going. >> eyes lurking in the --

>> no. come on, now. >> what the heck? >> lurking in the tuna fish. mysterious pair of beady black eyes staring back at her. according to scientists -- >> take that off. people are eating their breakfast. >> it looks like it might be a tongue-eating parasite. >> no. i don't want that in my tuna. >> it spread like wildfire with many social media users calling it tunagate. a spokesperson from prince's apologizes for the creature. >> it's kind of cute. >> and said the company is looking into the matter and is asking her to send them -- it's cute. put it in a little -- in like a cage. >> mayonnaise. >> oh, gosh. i'm going to throw up. >> did that really happen or did someone make it up? you have to worry about it. was it moving? >> kasie hunt joins us on the set fresh off of her reporting in london with new jersey governor chris christie. we also have the must read opinion pages and no more

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all right. 36 past the hour. join us now for the must read opinion pages nsnbc political correspondent kasie hunt just back from london and seniored for of the daily beast, will. >> a lot of people call him will the thrill for reasons we can't say on tv. will the thrill back with us. >> you're back from london. >> yes. >> what a week for chris christie. not his best week. >> it was quite a week. look, some people have been a little quick to make comparisons with this trip to what happened to mitt romney when he went abroad. i think that's going too far. he -- ultimately he didn't accomplish really anything in the foreign policy arena. he took no questions about foreign policy. i asked him what the role nato should play on the role stage. very straightforward. he said i don't want to talk about that right now. >> why wouldn't you want to talk about nato when you're in london? >> he also didn't want to talk about isis. he snapped, what do you not understand about no questions? they sort of went over there with -- >> i don't understand. so you get nothing out of -- i'm

not saying this about chris, up saying about about any candidate. he doesn't answer basic for roane policy questions? >> he did answer one question about a trade deal that's been pending for a long time between the eu and u.s. cameron, david cameron wants to accelerate the deal. the president supports it. it's been held up by labor concerns. he used it to go after president obama which there are some questions as a potential questions you want to go after a president on foreign soil does politics stop at the water's edge. >> mika, sam stein asked a question about what the purpose of isis does and what they were doing. mika? >> well we're looking at that in the "washington post." >> i'm saying and so that's something that -- >> why did they do it? what did the islamic state think it could possibly gain by burning alive a captured jordanian pilot. i wouldn't underestimate the absence of logic, sheer depraved thrill of a triumph cult.

but i wouldn't overestimate it either. you don't everrun much of syria and iraq without deploying key tactical reasoning. so what is the objective to destabilize jordan by drawing it deeply into the conflict. at first glance, this seems to make no sense. the savage execution has mobilized jordan against the islamic state and given it solidarity and unity of purpose. yes, for now, but what about six months hence? solidarity and purpose fade quickly. >> that is going back to 2003 where iraq seemed like a fairly simple thing for 70% of americans. now we, 12 years later, wish we weren't there. that is a question. what's the logic of isis? >> the big question about isis i think, is you don't know how much of this is just them rejoicing in their own barbarism and how much of this is logical, how much is strategic. it. >> seems like all of it is rejoicing in barbarism when negotiations turns out that someone has been dead for weeks

and there's no negotiation. >> so much of this also is a made for the internet. >> yeah. >> spec techle. >> it seems like so much of what they do is to try to get young recruits by having a slick online presence. >> yeah. now, the question is is there a method to this madness, is this as he thinks they're trying to bring jordan into this destabilize jordan. jordan right now seems like a cohesive state. you have very pro-western monarchy. a lot of good things going on there. but at the same time as sachl was pointing out earlier, you have this huge syrian refugee population there palestinians and the regular ground troops the special forces and all of that. so this is the question. six months from now, right now it looks like jordan is unified, taking the fight to isis. six months to now if they run into a quagmire and something bad happens. >> david ignatius from "the

washington post." think like a super power. you wouldn't know it by listening to gloomy commentators but the united states has been extremely lucky of late. its inherent economic strength has become more obvious will meanwhile, its adversaries have suffered reversals. the with the position the united states can afford to think like a super power. it shouldn't rush to maconke concessions for agreements. it shouldn't be shy about helping its friends or making its adversaries pay for their reckless behavior as in dealing with russia's aggression in ukraine. fortune blesses strong nations but only when they act with resolve. squandering america's real advantage to gain short-term diplomatic success would be a business mistake. >> amen amen again i say amen. what a remarkable column. we've been talking around the table about the fact that 2016 looks like it's doing to be a foreign policy year.

1980 and 2004 sometimes presidential elections are swayed by foreign policy. who gets that in the republican field? does any -- who has the credentials? who has the foreign policy credentials? >> i'm not sure we have anyone in this field that stands up. senator marco rubio is somebody who spent a lot of time trying to develop for of rehn policy credentials to set himself up but he's a first-term senator. >> just like barack obama was a first-term senator. we ain't doing that again any time soon. >> lindsey graham coming out into new hampshire and iowa now. i'm joking a little bit. >> stop sam. >> weird dynamic because in likelihood, hillary clinton running on the democratic side and then you will have republicans who have to con tend with both rand paul who they despise on for roane policy a lot of them do a lot of them don't obviously, and the lindsey graham wing of the party. i'm curious to see how this plays out.

not one of these candidates stands as a foreign policy voice. they're governors. primarily domestic policy focused senators. >> governors who can'tness basic questions about isis or nato. if you can't answer the question, yes, isis is a serious problem, with we have to push them back out of iraq. there are 1,000 things that you can say in one comment. a lot of these governors, seriously, they don't know what they're talking about in foreign policy so it looks like we've got governors and first-term senators. who is the for roane policyeign policy expert? >> rand paul. >> mitt romney would say he is. >> mitt romney. >> i forget about peter king. >> yes peter king. there you go. >> don't count out peter king. >> is pete running? >> we'll see. >> that would be great. >> good to see you. >> there's not enough candidates yet. >> kasie hunt thank you. >> he is so astute. >> he leans up well.

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the history of christianity when discussing religious extremism. >> doctor let's start with you. >> some found it insulting. >> trying to figure out the moral equivalency and christianity 800 years ago and islamic extremism today. what were your thoughts on what the president said at the prayer breakfast. >> a as someone who dedicated his life to islamic reform and dounter ercountering the groups like isis. isis is a symptom. for the president to do this equivalency to what's happening today without mentioning the word islam really without mentioning the islamic republic of iran or oic or saidudi arabia but saying isis is the comparison is absurd. had he given the vision of what's happening, islam needs to go through reform separate mochk and state, needs to go through an antitheeocracy, that's

fine. to do this with isis and the entire christian community and at the time of the crusades is absurd and not to mention, what is the relevance today? how does the president lead -- and this is what upsets me is that he's not engaging reformers. he met with muslims in the white house yesterday. he's not engaging feminists and day rights activists and liberals and of those who want to bring reform and counter theocracy against the saudi republic and iranian islamic republic. he mentioned the pastor but didn't call it the islamic republic. too much coddling and not enough frank language from the president. >> matt lewis, the president played into a lot of conservatives' worst fears, a lot of conserveative evangelicals' worst fears yesterday. >> that's right, joe. look, i think some of this is context, frankly. you know just a couple days ago

you had this jordanian pilot being burned alive. that's the context in which we live. and now we have this sort of intellectual moral equivalency argument being made. it's not the kind of thing you would expect to hear from a leader who beliefs that we're facing a serious threat. you know you can't imagine ronald reagan going up against the it a thinkisttheists soviets. >> this would be like fdr giving a speech to nazi germany, of course, what we did to the indians is really bad. we really you know m no room to talk about what hitler's doing. >> i don't think that's what he's saying. >> burned alive a pilot. burned him alive. they are beheading children. they are burying children alive. they are the face of evil. i don't understand the need for moral equivalence with

christians. there is no moral equivalence with the extremes that we're seeing here with isis. why does the president just have -- doctor why can't the president just come out and say, yeah, they're the face of evil. they're bad, without trying to create some half-baked moral equivalency? >> i have to tell you, i mean there were 25 offous that had an ad in the "new york times" on january 11th in which we said we want to beautify our religion. we want to counter the ideologies of political islam that's creating this monster. and we need leadership from the white house that's willing to engage us. if he doesn't engage the problem as being within the house of islam, he's going to allow the radicals to set the narrative. that's really what he's doing. and i can tell you that in today's trying time there's an opportunity in the arab awakening. unless we can engage reformists and say that islam is in that

time of change, we're not going to get anywhere in this conflict and continue to fight jihad. >> the book is "a battle for the soul of islam." thank you so much. matt lewis, thank you as well. coming up is the final play that cost the seahawks the super bowl, also to blame for a seattle man's death. how one family is turning heartache into humor. >> they put it in his obituary. they blamed -- they blamed the call on his heart attack. >> what? >> yeah. there comes a time in everyone's life when you want more. like a new meticulously engineered german sedan. finely crafted. exactingly precise. desire for such things often outpaces one's means. until now. hey matt, new jetta? yeah. introducing lots of new. the new volkswagen jetta. isn't it time for german engineering?

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we have a little news you can't use. a seattle man is getting one last laugh. >> this is awful. >> after his family took a dig at the seahawks in his obit. michael died on super bowl sunday according to his obituary in the spokesman review the family of the 53-year-old blames, quote, the seahawks' lousy play call for his untimely death. his family said he didn't actually see the game. he dvr'd it and went to bed because he he wasn't feeling well and passed away from a heart attack. the man's wife said he would have loved it. >> they said he would have loved

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can use. >> i don't know about that last one is funny. welcome back to "morning joe." mike barnicle and sam stein are still with us. >> good hair. >> he can read anything right? >> it was. it was. >> all right. let's get to the news. we have a lot to cover this hour. jordan topping the news here. not backing down in its efforts to take the fight to islamic state militants. the country unleashed a new round of air strikes in syria following the apparent burning death of jordanian pilot. jordan's army says this is just the beginning. it was a moving scene as jordan's king abdullah met with the pilot's family and embraced his father. nbc's andrea mitchell has more. nbc's andrea mitchell has more. >> reporter: jordan struck back hard. dozens of f-16s hit isis weapons supply centers in syria. the gun camera video showed on jordan state tv and facebook page with patriotic music. ♪ a mission named martyr moath

operation after the pilot's name, moath al kasasbeh. the operation after the slain pilot. slogans on their jets reading, we are beating them. the targets chosen by the u.s. coalition but handed off to jordan's pilots in difference to their tragedy. 21 american aircraft flew escort providing surveillance and refueling. the returning f-16s flew over the pilot's village as king abdullah braced his father, pledging his son's death would not be in vain. and state tv and social media showed jordan's ground forces training and the king of veteran pilot dressed for action. >> they have a first rate military. no question about it. broet ground both ground forces and air power. they've got an excellent intelligence service and lots of friends in the middle east. >> reporter: while in amman the pilot's brother was cheered by thousands. this student said it was the way mow@was killed being burned alive, considered antiislamic that united the country. >> you know again, we talked -- >> that was andrea mitchell

reporting. >> we talked last hour about how this is unified the country. there's a lot of questions about whether isis is trying to draw jordan in. but at some point you draw japan in for the first time in 70 years. you draw -- when you start drawing countries like jordan in and uae in you can no longer say this is the crusaders coming to the middle east. >> no. >> they have now surrounded themselves in the middle east with other arab states now turned against them. >> creating their own destruction. >> it's hard to find. the only states that are seemingly providing any aid or comfort in any way are turkey and quat tar. >> the syrian government is using cyber sex to mount digital attacks on rebels. the daily beast sites a company fire eye who says hackers loy yam to assad created profiles of women on a match making site during chats with rebels they

send photo which help them gain access to the insurgent's data. while the company has stopped short of saying who is behind the hacks they said the data would prove advantageous to assad loyalists. >> classic battle. >> is it not bizarre, this is in many ways the future of warfare? the battleground if you can actually get in to somebody's computer system. >> yep. >> you can get battle plans, you can get locations of you know troop movements. >> it's a digital trojan horse. >> yeah. >> that's all i have to say. >> it was incredible. >> we have republican congresswoman from arizona and retired air force colonel representative martha mcsally. first female fighter pilot in u.s. history to fly combat mission and command a fighter squadron. congresswoman, thank you for being with us. >> sure. >> we were having a debate last hour about the effectiveness of

just having an air campaign. at some point you may need boots on the ground. but bosnia was an example how an air campaign actually could win a war. could that happen here with isis if. >> look, air power is a very very potent weapon that we have in our inventory, to be able to meet our military objectives. what i will say is this administration has told our enemies what we're not going to do which then gives them an advantage. so i think using air power w. other asemymmetrical advantages we have in intelligence and special operations forces are inserting joint terminal attack controllers that are on the dwround grow those are the guys that we talked to when we showed up. i flew the a-10 warthog. where is the bad guys, where is the civilians. and control us in very precise strikes. and so there's a lot of tools that we have in order to use the

a symmetrical advantage that we have as a country and coalition. i think we need to bring them all to bearnd not tell our enemies what we're going to do and what we're not going to do. >> let's say in this hypothetical scenario we do concede we need troops on the ground. who runs the coalition? how do you lead it? what countries contribute troops to it? it seems if you have 10 12 different countries it's tough to organize. how would something like that work where we are leading a ground force coalition? >> again, we've had many experiences with coalitions with multiple countries in the 26 years that i was in the military. it's not that complicated. we have good command and control systems for inner operatibility. a lot of the aircraft and ground equipment being used by some of our allies are ones that came from america. many of our allies right now the are flying the f-16 for example over iraq and syria. it's a matter of just coming up with a command and control and ensuring that we have good information sharing. one of the difficult things is just the complexities of our

classified systems and then having ways that we can share intelligence with our allies that are not part of say, our nato systems. but these are all doable things. for crying out loud we're the super power. we can do this. >> congresswoman, martha mcsally i like it. i like your attitude. nice to have you on this morning. what many would call a bad week for a new jersey governor chris christie and possible 2016 candidate as well he is has just gotten worse. bennett barlyn confirms he met with two federal investigators about his civil suit against christie's administration. he claims he was fired because he would not drop an indictment against several allies of the governor including a county sheriff. barlyn spoke to nbc's kelly o'donnell last year about the accusations which christie denies any involvement with. >> the attorney general basically swooped in and killed the case after these three individuals were indicted.

that raised political flags, especially given the fact that one of the defendants, after being indicted specifically said, this was reported in the local papers governor christie is going to come in and kill the case. frankly, that's exactly what happened. >> and the citizens for ethics and responsibility in washington, a democratic leaning watchdog group is now calling for a state ethics investigation of christie. it is related to a "new york times" story this week that the governor flew casino owner sheldon adelson's private plane for a trip to israel in 2012. that jordan's king abdullah paid for a family weekend at the end of that trip. >> can i just say one thing on this? >> yeah. >> the times story about his travel was -- there was obviously some shady stuff there but there was an element that's been underplayed which is this doesn't excuse anything else adelson paid for the trip but then christie turned around and didn't do adelson's biddinging. that was buried in the times story but i thought it was an

important detail. he did get -- he did get some monetary benefits from it be it didn't prove to payoff. >> he ended up not doing -- >> he did not vote. >> what -- what adelson wanted. >> right. he did not push or sign a legislation that sheldon adelson wanted. >> why would they put that in? that's more of a hit and run. obviously with jerry jones you have a different issue because obviously he did things that aid jerry jones. so then you've got to be a lot more careful there. why would you put in the adelson comment? >> the story was about how susceptible you are toward the type of paid to play culture. own take the trips, stay at the five-star resorts and your bring your family along and costs are covered. but if you have one example in which it didn't result in a pay to play it's worth mentioning higher up i think. >> you're right. you're right about that. his issue in terms of his potential candidacy for president, this is what we call in the news business as you

know, the drip treatment. >> of course. >> every few days there's a story about chris christie which sort of i would think, freeze his potential donors big donors giving to him. the jury pool is getting smaller in the trial against the man accused of killing famed navy s.e.a.l. sniper chris kyle. more than 40 potential jurors were dismissed amid concerns of pretrial publicity surrounding what's now the number one war movie of all time. efrl is several were dismissed for legal reasons and others because they said they had already formed an opinion. former marine is accused of killing kyle and his friend chad littlefield at a texas gun range two years ago. defense lawyers are expected to argue that mental illness is to blame. opening statements are expected to begin on wednesday. and now this. a senior adviser to republican congressman aaron schock of illinois is stepping down after revelations of racially charged comments that the aide made on

facebook. the post from benjamin cole who served as senior adviser for policy and communications were first uncovered by the website think progress. they posted a string of his racial remarks including this one from from 2013 in which he compares two black people in a video he posted to zoo animals. in this post from 2010 he suggests a mosque should be built on the white house grounds for president obama. representative schock announced mr. cole's rest signatureignation saying he was extremely disappointed by his behavior. highly controversial story we told you about earlier this week. ♪ >> the bronx defenders, non-profit legal group, funded by the city of new york faced wide spread criticism for its tie to that video which called

for violence against police officers. we've learned that ryan napoli and rayo two attorneys who appeared in the video have resigned. they reportedly agreed to let the rappers film in their offices. the director of the organization which receives about $20 million each year in public funding, is also suspended without pay for 60 days. city comptroller scott stringer called for a similar outcome monday on "morning joe." >> it is simply outrageous. and whether you are democrat republican, liberal, conservative moderate everybody in new york city agrees that the conduct of these attorneys and this whole organization as relates to this video is absolutely out ramg jous. >> i think what we ought to do is simply extract the bad apples, the bad actors the people who think that this video in any way helps the positive dialogue we need to create in the city. i think we should be very tough on organizational hirk i cans.

people who may have covered this up, who knew about it. but let's not destroy an organization that has -- that does so much good work. >> to the controversy surrounding the anchor of nbc "nightly news" brian williams. we're going to walk you through what happened so far. last week williams recounted a moment from his time embedded with the u.s. army during the iraq invasion. >> the story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of iraq. when the helicopter we were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an rpg. our traveling nbc news team was rescued, surrounded, and kept alive by an armored mechanized platoon from the u.s. army third infantry. >> it was a story williams told several times over the years including in detail during one. experience on "late night with david letterman" in 2013. according to "variety" a person familiar with the situation says nbc news executives counseled williams in the past to stop telling the story in public.

though this is disputed by someone familiar with current nbc news operations. after friday's recounting one of the crew members of that helicopter challenged williams with the facebook post. sorry, i don't remember you being on my aircraft. i do remember you walking up about an hour after we landed to ask me what had happened. other crew members confirm this discrepancy to the military magazine "stars and stripes." on wednesday williams addressed the issue. >> on this broadcast last week in an effort to honor and thank a veteran who protected me and so many others after a ground fire incident in the desert during the iraq war invasion i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. it did not take long to hear from some brave men and women in the air crews who were also in that desert. i want to apologize. i said i was traveling in an aircraft that was hit by rpg fire.

i was instead in a following aircraft. we all landed after the ground fire incident and spent two harrowing nights in a sandstorm in the iraq desert. this was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran and by extension our brave military men and women, veterans every where, those who have served while i did not, i hope they know they have my greatest respect and also now my apology. >> williams also took to facebook writing to members of the crew. in part i feel terrible about making this mistake. especially since i found my own writing about the incident from back in '08, and i was indeed on the chinook behind the bird that took the rpg in the tail housing just above the ramp. because i have no desire to fictionalize my experience we all saw it happened and the first time and no need to dramatize events as they actually happened. i think the constant viewing of the video showing us inspecting the impact area, and the fog of memory over 12 years, made me

conflate the two and i apologize. reaction online and by many media critics and vet raps with swift and often harsh and mocking in tone. ebbs extensive coverage of the story include pieces by "the new york times" times", "washington post," and baltimore sun, some calling for mr. williams to be fired. others came out in support of williams including paul the founder of iraq and africa veterans of america who urged veterans to forgive williams in part because of his, quote, tremendous dedication to men and women in uniform. yesterday cnn interviewed rich krell who said he was the pilot of mr. williams' helicopter and they did take some small arms fire, just not an rpg. but another man said he was the pilot and n. command of mr. williams' chopper. this morning he tells the u.s. post that krell was manlg nate tive and piloting a different

chopper. williams did not readdress the controversy on "nightly news" last night. asked for further comment, a spokeswoman said the network stood by williams' apology and had nothing further to add. we'll be right back. how much money do you have in your pocket right now? i have $40 $21.

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all right. let's look at the morning papers. the "wall street journal," embattled sewn sni pictures cochair amy pascal is stepping down. embarrassing e-mails from pascal surfaced after the cyber attack of sony pictures. neither sony or pascal mentioned in thursday's announcement her removal has been speculated about since the move aking. has call who has led the studio for over a decade will step down in may and launch a new production company paid for by sony. she wrote in a statement, i have spent my -- almost my entire professional life at sony pictures and i am energized to be starting this new chapter based at the company i call home. >> you really knew from the moment you saw those e-mails where she made some racially tense jokes about president

obama and the type of movies that he might like to see. you knew that she was going to be gone. >> rough. >> isn't so much gone as a nice golden parachute over to another section of sony. >> she wouldn't be leaving. >> here's your go good-bye package. >> it's a deal. we get this from this chicago tribune. officials say five infants at a day care center had been diagnosed with the measles virus. as many as is a children could have been exposed. some of them too young to be vaccinated. the source has not been identified yet but health officials say there have been at least 102 other measles cases this year. 94 of which are related to that outbreak originally from disneyland. from our nbc station in washington the university of virginia is investigating a reported sexual assault on campus. the school's police department sent students a letter notifying them of the allegation or reminding them of ways to report unwanted sexual contact. so far there is no word on the

suspect. this incident follows rolling stones recent article about a sex assault at uva that was later retracted by the magazine. carefully. "wall street journal" has this. more information coming out now about anthem health insurance. the hack there which compromised the information of 80 million custer manies. this is really bad. sources say the insurer stored the data of its customers without encrypting the information. so anthem says it believes the hackers gained access to their system by stealing the password of one of its employees. as of now it does not appear the personal information is being used. that's the big term as of now. >> i know somebody who actually had their health records compromised. let's go to "the new york times" blog upshot. it's warning readers not to fall for a study -- >> hold a second. i think this article is anti-science because that study, thomas, it said jogging will kill you. >> uh-huh. >> that was a real study. >> no. >> a real scientist. >> real scientists.

now they've got some hup by at the upshot, right? >> i'm going to take you running today with me. let's do three miles to start. four tomorrow. >> you deny science. i'm a republican who loves science. okay? >> yes. >> i'm looking at these studies that say that jogging will kill you. >> follow her in the car. >> i'll get a scooter. you run around manhattan. >> a sparky. the study suggested that jogging may be better for your health than stren rouseuous running. it points out the study was conduct we'd a small sample of people over ten years. the author suggests readers may be too fast to believe medical studies as factnd do not look beyond the surface. >> okay. >> everything in nod rags. >> everything in moderation. >> except eating ribs. >> going running. right after the show i'm taking both of you. it's going to be fun. >> oh, please. do you run? >> no. >> come on thomas. we're going around the park. >> i'm hacking just thinking about it.

mashable.com has this new study suggest that treadmill desks make you smarter. >> i like this. >> according to researchers in montreal those using the working walk stations real reading for 40 minutes had a 40% higher chance of correctly answering questions about the material. >> yep. >> still the investment in increased productivity will set employers back get this, the treadmill desk will cost you more than 1200 bucks a desk. >> is that with or without an ashtray? >> no, no, no. i have conference calls.treadmill. there's no desk. >> optional. >> optional. >> you can really lose weight i hear if you run and smoke at the same time and you're on the phone. you're multitasking. >> like nothing. >> please. coming up is chris christie and rand paul on the road to the white house. one is the first it candidate of 2016. chuck todd and steve schmidt are going to be with us when we come back.

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them and i love them uncondition ali. >> no one is suggest that you stop loving your family members because they're bad at their jobs. and to be fair your dad wasn't even that bad. your dad was pretty good. nep retrospect. i mean i wouldn't call your dad the greatest man alive or anything. >> my dad is the greatest man alive. if anybody disagrees, we'll go outside unless you're 6'5" and 250 and much younger than me. >> i guess we can read all about it in jeb bush's campaign book "i only fight old, small people." >> with us now from washington nbc news political director and moderator, former mccain strategist steve schmidt. >> and john mccain. >> and mike barnicle turn that steady cam around. we can't get him off the set. he's kind of hanging out. let's go to washington, d.c. while mike gets his bearings.

we asked mike to stay here. >> that's not fair. you set him up. >> chuck todd rarely do you have weeks where winners and losers at least on -- in a presidential sweepstakes even a year out are so clear. chris christie had a really bad week. rand paul had a really bad week. jeb bush pretty good week. >> you know i think this is the way it's going to be now from here on out is that every week we'll feel this way, whether my guess is you and i are going to be sitting here every friday going, what just happened, what did we learn? i'm with you. i think we learned that rand paul and chris christie are thin skinned on the case of chris christie, still thin skinned. >> yeah. >> i think we learned -- it's interesting by jeb, the front-runner without the polls showing it. >> right. >> and the one thing i would say he still has oratoricle work to do. reading his speech is one thing. seeing him deliver it i argue

he still has work to do. >> steve schmidt, i actually campaigned with jeb in '94, '98 prks 2002 just kind of seeing him at this event, seeing him at that event at the same events. jeb is a really smart guy. i always said he was one of my favorite leaders of all time. he ain't an orator. he was never good in debates. he's just a really smart dpi. >> at the end of the day the ability to communicate in a presidential campaign is -- has prime primacy over every other skill. it's the most important thing the candidate has to do once they start in august. that being said good week for him, particularly in the context of chris christie beginning to collapse because christie now with romney out is the purpose who occupies that lane. >> what people are watching, people have a right to ask why is this so important? why would this week be important when this far out. right now i'll mean as far as money goes steve schmidt, this

is the do or die time for chris christie. >> yeah, absolutely. he's got to put together an establishment campaign. he has to raise a lot of money in order to be able to compete for the nomination with jeb bush. but if you look at chris christie on a range of issues from temperament issues to the state of the economy in new jersey, to the corruption issues to the -- >> like the house of commons here chuck todd. yeah, yeah yeah yeah. we looked at chris christie again this week. the temperament is an issue. i got to tell you i was really surprised by how thin skinned rand paul was. the guy that i like i guy i agree with a good bit, but somebody -- i remember the story of reagan blowing up in one of his early appearances in 1965 early 19 -- late '65, early '66.

his entire campaign team surrounded him after he blew up and said, if you do that again, we're all leaving. somebody needs to say that to rand paul. he can't afford too many more weeks like this or he becomes the ross perot of the republican party in 2016. >> yeah. >> look i -- we haven't even gotten to what i think is he's going to be his toughest week when it comes, which is when folks start litigating him versus his father. where if he's getting this defensive over vaccines just wait until -- i think wait until some of his dad's controversial positions becomes something he is forced to answer for or opponents go after him on. i always thought in that -- like i say, you think he was thin skinned this week wait until we see him then unless he as you say, figures out how not to be that way. >> yeah. let's go to mike barnicle who happens to be hanging at the table. i like this.

>> you feel badly for me and let me. >> yeah. i understand. >> but off of joe's observation about -- about rand paul being thin skinned is one thing. but what do you do if you're running the campaign and you've got a candidate who would. pear as the case with rand paul who the longer he talks, the more trouble he creates for himself. >> look, at the end of the day in this endeavor there are no bad questions. there are only bad answers. every question gives a presidential candidate an opportunity to show an aspect of their character, their grace, their humility how they react under pressure. and you see these candidates falling up short. they're revealing an aspect of the character. it's the genius of the long presidential primary process. >> yeah. >> i was going to say. >> did you say genius? >> she cordons off the press. doesn't want to talk to any of the media. it's like what do you expect in these campaign? two-year long processes at this point. you can't go to london if you're chris christie and not take

questions. >> chuck todd, i was surprised. kasie hunt was here and he asked a question of isis and he didn't answer. asked a question of nato and he didn't answer. if you can't give a one-sentence answer, if you are so bubble wrapped two years out that you can't give in a sentence or two what you think about isis ornate to that's a real problem. >> why do they publicize it? right? why was this an important trip. why did they want reporters on it? right? you would assume they must have had something say that they did want to brandish some -- he supposedly has been studying up on foreign policy. i think they just panicked. he did his one impromptu thing on vaccines me panicked. all of a sudden they wrapped him up. you know look that's not him. right? if he can't talk to the press authentically, then he's no longer chris christie. >> exactly. mika, i have always been surprised and we got to go but we'll talk to steve about this later. but steve schmidt learned and

other people learned very quickly some governors, they know little too nothing about foreign policy. always shocks me the blind spots that so many of these people have. >> what we learned the segment, looking at the republicans, good questions, bad answers, bad candidates. all of them. steve schmidt, thank you. >> all of them? so says the democrat. >> well, i'm not talking about the democrats right now but they're not looking that good either. >> steve schmidt, stay with us. chuck todd stay with us. >> it's almost boring. there's nobody that is standing out. >> we're going to watch "meet the press" this weekend. i think the candidates are so bad on the republican side, says mika, she may actually vote democratic this year. >> stop. chuck, thank you. actually, tuck, stick around. the u.s. is preparing to send more troops to ukraine. we have dr. brzezinski here to talk about it next.of mys elf as more of a control... enthusiast. mmm, a perfect 177-degrees. and that's why this road warrior rents from national.

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let's go to washington, d.c. right now and speak with former national security adviser for president carter dr. brzezinski. dr. brzezinski, thank you. a lot of talk about the united states arming ukraine, russia yesterday sending out a threat saying it would cause irreparable harm to the relationship. what's the best way forward? >> the best way forward is to do what is clearly necessary. russia is using force to destabilize ukraine, to prevent it from joining the european community and if it prevails in doing so the alliance the nato alliance will be proven to be empty and then of course the baltic states will be next on the line. so a lot is at stake. this doesn't mean that we have to plunge into some huge war but we certainly have to assert ourselves more clearly, more decisively, more convincingly particularly the russians. >> we have chuck todd "meet the

press" in washington. chuck has question. chuck? >> dr. brzezinski today susan rice making different decisions if simply they weren't always thinking about, wow, boy, if it wasn't for the iraq war, if it wasn't for iraq war fatigue we would do "x" but because of that we're doing "y". >> it's not a matter of iraq war fatigue. it's in sense that we undermine our credibility internationally by going into war under false pretenses and, at the same time we have aroused intense hostility towards the united states in the muslim world.

that, i think, rightly. and the intelligent person would so conclude. >> we've handcuffed ourselves because of that? >> that's the best way of putting it. >> dr. brzezinski, is the answer here to put -- to give lethal aid to the ukrainians or is the answer here to put american combat brigades in station into poland air combat wings into the baltics, into the nato countries that would be potentially under threat should the russians continue to assert their historical prerogatives in this area? >> i think to some extent it could be a combination of both because if ukraine falters, all of those countries will be at risk and, what's worse than the alliance will look weak and discredited. but bear in mind that when i first raised the idea of giving some weapons to the ukrainians, it was a year ago exactly, i also said we ought to reassure

the russians that our long-term objective or short-term objective is not ukraine and the membership in nato because that would be a dagger pointed right at the heart of russia namely moscow. geographically if you look at the map. i think we have to give them that assurance. now, if they still persist in spite of being given that assurance, to try to go undermine ukraine and set in motion all of these negative consequences, what choice do we have except withdraw from europe all together because if nato collapses the alliance is really empty. >> sam stein is with us. >> dr. brzezinski, i want to switch here but i was curious about what your thoughts were on benjamin netanyahu's planned speech before the house of representatives. it's obviously caused a lot of controversy domestically for the political ripples it will have. i'm curious about your thoughts on that. >> i think this and all the way for the speaker to proceed in a

country which has traditions, has, of course enormous respect for the congress because one in which the president is the ultimate decision maker when it comes to national security. and it is transparent effort to undermine the president, i think, in the country's being not serviced well. i hope the speaker has enough guts to pull the invitation back or i hope netanyahu has enough smarts to find some reason for not coming. >> interesting. >> all righty then. dr. brzezinski, thank you. thanks, dad. see you soon. still ahead, the bizarre and riveting story of robert d u.k. rsk, real estate mogle and alleged serial murder. tells his story in a six-part series. the director and producer of that series joins us next. [ hoof beats ] i wish... please, please, please, please, please. [ male announcer ] the wish we

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i can remember very clearly the telephone calls and bobby insisting that kathy come home and kathy being visibly shaken after the phone calls. she went out to the mercedes she came back in and she said i'm leaving now. we stood on the front porch, and she said to me promise me if

something happens you'll check it out. i'm afraid of bobby. i just said kathy, of course you can count on me. it didn't even register that she was telling me that for some dreadful reason. i just didn't get it. >> that was a clip from hbo's "the jinx, the lives, the deaths of robert durst." good to have you on the show. >> good morning. >> why don't you set the scene for us. tell us who he is and why you were contacted. >> well i had started making a film about robert durst. he's a very unusual guy. i thought he was fascinating guy. y he grew up in westchester. >> they're real estate royalty in new york. billionaires. >> this is a family that's built the conde nast building bank of america tower, just finished building the freedom tower. what's fascinating about him is he started such a luxurious life

and ended up 70 years later in a 300 a month rooming house. >> we're showing a picture of his brother who actually says he fears for his life and has to get security. he took over his father's fortune after his son -- after his brother was acting erratically, urinating in trash cans in the office. talk about the split between robert durst and his father. >> well you know naturally in this kind of a family the eldest son would take over the family business. in this family it was very different because robert had married this beautiful girl from a modest background kathy, and just a few years later she's -- disappeared. and so the family was very upset about it. people didn't know what to do about it. they didn't know whether to suspect robert but many people did. and so that and other things led them to pass over robert in favor of his younger brother who ended up becoming the head of the durst organization.

>> so you had certainly this taking over your life because you directed "all good things," kirsten dunst and ryan gosling. this is the documentary version. what are you trying to prove? you left us with suspenseful questions out of the film. so what does the documentary tell us about how these people died and whether he is guilty or not? >> the documentary version of this will answer those questions. when we originally made the narrative feature we made a beautiful film but it was impossible to answer those questions without doing another eight or ten years of research. but in the course of it bob durst reached out to us and saying that he was interested in seeing that film that we made about his life andy wanted to talk about it. >> what happened to bob durst? here is a guy who had everything. his father was heartbroken when he had to fire him, and what happened? >> he like most people he sort of had a complicated life.

he's been painted in the media i think as this kind of sort of maniac and you see lots of serial type stories about him. but the reality is he's pretty deep and bright guy. he experienced a lot of trauma i think at an early age. among other things he saw his mother commit suicide. but i think what we get into here is really the depth of this person and he willing to talk in this context about things that he's never spoken about before. >> this all reminds me a little bit of jake gyllenhaal's character in zodiac you do at least, tracing down the response for all these killings. what is it like on a personal level for to you spend ten years on such a clearly creepy subject matter? >> i'm a fairly cheerful person. i do spend time on this or other films that i've made. but it obviously interests me to try to get deeper into somebody that's been painted in such a burlesque fashion.

i'm interested in monster stories. >> did you ever fear for yourself or feel like personally vulnerable to this? >> i've never been afraid of bob durst. i feel vulnerable to the story. i want to get it right. doing the right work on the film. but i'm never worried about myself. >> what happened to his beautiful young wife? >> he marries this fantastic girl and ten years later violence enters the relationship and suddenly one night she disappears. she's in westchester. he said he put her on the train to go into the city and she never ends up reaching her destination. >> nobody knows what happened to her ever? >> nobody ever found out what happened to her. >> who else close to him disappear? didn't his girlfriend disappear? >> later, about 18 years after the disappearance of the wife the district attorney reopen the case focusing on bob durst as the possible suspect in his wife's disappearance and they identify a witness called susan berman who was bob's best friend. they go to talk to that witness who they'd never have spoken to

before and she's found murdered. >> "the jinx" the life and deaths of robert durst will debut on february 8th on hbo. looks incredible. >> congratulations for getting through this. take a shower. it's over. and move on with your life. >> thank you. >> i'm just saying being around bob durst is that way. oh, i'm in trouble now. why some say president obama crossed the line by comparing muslim extremism to christians during the crusades. we have a great set of co-hosts for the 8:30 hour. jackie reed cindy levy and designer michelle smith all join us. we'll be right back. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh...

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it is the top of the hour and it is friday. thank god it's friday. mike barnacle's here senior political editor for the huffington post. sam stein's here in the studio too. >> hi. >> can't complain. >> long week. should we get to the news? >> let's do it. >> jordan is not backing down its efforts to take the fight to islamic state militants. the country unleashed a new round of air strikes against isis targets in syria following the apparent burning death of a jordanian pilot. jordan's army says this is just

the beginning. and it was a moving scene as jordan's king abdullah met with the pilot's family and embraced his father. andrea mitchell has more. >> reporter: jordan struck back hard. dozens of f-16 hit weapons supply centers in syria. the gun camera video shown on jordan state tv and its facebook page with patriotic music a mission named martyr muath kasasbeh. handed off to jordan's pilots in deference to their tragedy. the returning f-16s flew over the pilot's village as king abdullah embraced the pilot's father. pledging his son's death would not be in vain.

as state tv and social media showed jordan's ground forces training. and the king, a veteran pilot, dressed for action. >> they have a first-rate military. there's no question about it. both ground forces and air power. they've got an excellent intelligence service and lots of friends in the middle east. >> reporter: while in amman, the pilot's brother was cheered by thousands. this student said it was the way he was killed being burned alive, considered anti-islamic that united the country. >> unbelievable. mike barnacle was talking about a former u.s. intelligence official who just sent me a quick e-mail saying they screwed with the wrong king. he used different words. but just said that this is you know, this is a guy who didn't believe last year that he might survive the year. now he's leading the fight against isis. >> yeah and general mccafferty pointed out jordan has a first rate army in that region of the world, first rate air force and a very skilled intelligence

apparatus. the question would be i would think, is jordan's staying power and commitment to this given how volatile the middle east is and always has been over the last two or three years. >> i think it's highly symbolic. but you talk about the complete isolation of isis sam, and again we talked about it this past week. enraging japan, getting the united states out of its pose sort of more of an isolationist pose that we've been in after 12 years of exhausting wars and option occupations. now with jordan in the middle east they're somehow managing to offend everybody on the planet. >> there's two questions i have about all this and neither of which i feel like i can answer because i don't have expertise in it. one is are they doing this on purpose? is isis doing this on purpose to draw our country into syria to make them easier to attack? i don't know. the second question is, how

effective are air strikes alone? at what point does jordan say we need to commit more ground troops in there? i don't know the answer to either of those. but those seem like the two critical questions underlying all this? >> it's hard to say on the air strikes obviously in bosnia it worked. sometimes it does work. here with this case you have -- you don't have a state. >> right. >> you just have disparate actors. it certainly should be able to if not defeat them and eradicate the threat it should at least be able to get them out of iraq and then we can decide what happens. >> just to add about who we're dealing with we have another illustration of just how twisted the isis value system is. and this is extremely disturbing what i'm about to say. we know that they've enslaved and beheaded children and now female supporters of isis have

reportedly written a manual detailing life inside the islamic state to debunk what they see as myths. the bbc reports the document from an all-female brigade condones that girls be married as young as 9 years old but not much later than 16 or 17. they should be educated between the ages of 7 and 15 but after that age women should accept their role in home and live life from behind a veil. by one count women make up 10% of the foreign recruits who have joined the terror group. >> marry girls as young as 9. i saw this document last month. and i just couldn't believe it. it popped up again last night of the bbc. it just shows the complete twisted mind-set of these people. >> we've got our correspondents in the field to cover this story. nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel is live in iraq and keir simmons is

in amman, jordan. the jordanian people are outraged. how do we expect this to play out? >> yeah that's right. you said there, he screwed with the wrong king. in a sense they messed with the wrong country. we're seeing extraordinary things here. thousands on the streets protesting against isis. we're hearing from some here that queen rania herself. this is an extremely muslim country. for it to be overwhelmingly turning against isis in this way is really really crucial. having said that it's important that we don't try to paint a picture as if this is just happening now. it's worth remembering, for example, isis attacked the iraqi/jordanian border. that's not confirmed, but that's what's been reported toward the end of last year. this country has had a long fight with extremism with sunni

extremism and this is the latest stage of it. but it does seem to be galvanizing opinion here and galvanizing support behind those air raids. >> it is striking though that this young king mike barnacle who is not quite so young now, has stepped in and has been under fire for quite some time but it appears that isis -- you talked about whether isis wants people to come to the region or not, i think one of the great ironies is that isis has unified a lot of muslims who were uneasy with the king and uneasy with other leaders in the region and actually strengthened their own position at home. >> jordan obviously for the last year, year and a half everyone has been talking about it here on this program and other programs, the weight of the refugee problem that they've had with spilling over the border from syria into jordan has been a real weight that jordan has

carried. now we're going to find out as we talked earlier, how long the fever to crush isis is going to stay. they were affected more them and turkey by any other turkey because of the sheer amount of refugees crossing the border. jordan is in this weird political situation which is how much do they get involved in this because it's affecting them. the weird tenant of the president's policy toward isis is to recruit moderate muslims to actually go take the war to isis in syria. now, i don't know if that's going to consist of jordanians or just be syrian moderates that are supposed to be training in saudi arabia but you can imagine or you can at least see a situation in which more of these barbaric acts from isis ends up doing that recruitment for the united states. >> let's go from overseas to home and washington, d.c. >> a little bit of controversy in washington. the president stirred that up at the national prayer breakfast in washington on thursday.

speaking out about extremism. the president challenged christians to reflect on their own religious history. >> we also see faith being twisted and distorted, used as a wedge or worse sometimes used as a weapon. we see isil a brutal vicious death cult that in the name of religion carries out unspeakable acts of barbarism. so how do we as people of faith reconcile these realities? the profound good the strength the tenacity the compassion and love that can flow from all of our faiths operating alongside those who seek to hijack religion for their own murderous ends humanity has been grappling with these questions throughout human history.

unless we get on our high horse and think this is unique to some other place remember that during the crusades and the inquisition people committed terrible deeds in the name of christ. and our home country slavery and jim crow all too often was justified in the name of christ. >> i mean -- >> critics slammed the president. >> baffling to me. >> calling his comments a false moral comparison among them former republican jim gilmore who accused the president of offending all christians in a remark the most offensive i've ever heard a president make. >> it's unbelievable. the moral equivalency of having to go back 700, 800, 900 years? you see this when you have people that somehow want to paint a broad brush, oh, yes, radical islam's bad but look

what christianity does. really, you have to go back 800 years to a crusade that most historians say christians launched in response to years and years of muslims taking over their former land. this is -- >> i think the timing's bad. i think it's a bigger conversation as to whether or not it's okay to have -- you know, i'm not arguing this. >> why feel the need to go back 800 years? this stupid left-wing -- >> okay. >> moral equivalency. sometimes you can just say -- sometimes you can just say, hey, you know what? there are some really really bad muslim extremists. you don't have to go to other side and go oh christians are bad, too. there's such a desperate plea for those on the left to do that. i saw a cnn documentary maybe five six years ago, and it was,

you know extremism in the name of god, and they were so desperate to find jewish examples of extremism and then -- this was right after 9/11. then their example for christian examples of extremism is some schools, some christian schools in america actually make women wear skirts below their knees. how ghastly. let's see, wear skirts below your knees on this side at fundamentalist schools, blow up the world trade center on this side. >> okay. >> no, it's not okay. it's not okay for this president. i mean, you almost have to ask the question where did he go to church? where would he get such ideas from? >> he has certainly made better speeches. you'd have to admit that.

linking what is going on today with the inquisition and the crusades. a lot of people are aware of what happened. >> jen can you put some vodka in here? >> come on. >> okay. okay. >> what's so funny is sam, when liberals pseudo intellectuals make these arguments, they actually aren't realizing make themselves look foolish. >> i think he was reverting to his post presidency academic mode where he wanted to draw these historical moral equivalencies. but the point that religion can be really well perverted, but you don't have to do that in this context with isis all around you. i need to find my outrage because jim gilmore saying this is the most offensive thing a president has said. >> why. >> come on. >> am i going to remember it in a week? probably not. >> what was stupid dumb and ill

timed? >> the president's speech. >> okay. just wanted to get that on record. >> there's a bigger conversation there. >> of course there is. that's the point. >> i'm not outraged by this. i just agree with sam. it's just stupid and dumb. somebody trying to oh i'm a pseudo intellectual. people have died in the name of christianity than anything. there's no actually over 100 million -- >> if you want to talk about the perversion of religion don't do it while your president. >> if you want to talk about the perversion of religion don't pervert the facts. that's the irony here. again -- >> jim gilmore now. >> i'm talking about the president, drunk uncle sitting around the table and people have died in the name of jesus christ. anybody else. well the communist killed over 100 million of their own people in the 20th century. it's not even close, actually drunk uncle sal. take your pseudo intellectual

bs -- >> don't bring drunk uncle sal into this. >> who actually is drunk? >> what many would call a bad week for new jersey governor chris christie has just gotten worse. bennett barland said he met with two federal investigators about his suit against christie's administration. he claims he was fired because he would not drop an indictment against several allies of the governor including a county sheriff. he spoke to kelly o'donnell last year about the accusations which christie denies any involvement with. >> the attorney general basically swooped in and killed the case after these three individuals were indicted. that raised political flags especially given the fact that one of the defendants, after being indicted specifically said and this was reported in the local papers governor christie is going to come in and kill the case.

and frankly, that's exactly what happened. >> and the citizens for ethics and responsibility in washington, a democratic leaning watchdog group is now calling for a state ethics investigation of christie. it's related to a "new york times" story this week that the governor flew sheldon edelson's private plane for a trip to israel in 2012 and jordan's king abdullah paid for a family vacation after that trip. he was criticized for a trip to the united kingdom for saying there should be a balance on the issue of mandatory vaccinations. now to the controversy surrounding the anchor of nbc "nightly news" brian williams. we'll walk you through what happened so far. last week williams recounted a moment from his time while embedded with the u.s. army during the iraq invasion. >> the story actually started with a terrible moment a dozen years back during the invasion of iraq where the helicopter we

were traveling in was forced down after being hit by an rpg. our traveling news team was rescued, surrounded and kept alived by an armored mechanized platoon from the 3rd infantry. >> it was a story that williams had told several times over the years including in detail during one appearance on "late night with david letterman" in 2014. according to "variety" a person familiar with the story had counseled williams to stop telling the story in public. this is disputed by someone familiar with current nbc news operations. after friday's recounting one of the crew members of that helicopter challenged williams with a facebook post. sorry, i don't remember you being on my aircraft. i do remember you walking up about an hour after we had landed to ask me what had happened. other crew members confirmed this discrepancy to the military magazine "stars and stripes." on wednesday, williams addressed the issue.

>> on this broadcast last week in an effort to honor and thank a veteran who protected me and so many others after a ground fire incident in the desert during the iraq war invasion i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. it did not take long to hear from some brave men and women and the air crews who were also in that desert. i want to apologize. i said i was traveling in an aircraft that was hit by rpg fire. i was instead in a following aircraft. we all landed after the ground fire incident and spent two harrowing nights in a sand storm in the iraq desert. this was a bungled attempt by me to thank one special veteran and by extension our brave military men and women, veterans everywhere, those who have served while i did not. i hope they know they have my greatest respect and also now my apology. >> williams also took to facebook writing to members of

the crew in part i feel terrible about making this mistake, especially since i found my own writing about the incident from back in '08 and i was indeed on the chinook behind the bird that took the rpg in the tail housing just above the ramp. because i have no desire to fictionalize my experience we all saw it happened the first time and no need to dramatize events as they actually happened, i think the constant viewing of the video showing us inspecting the impact area and the fog of memory over 12 years made me conflate the two and i apologize. reaction online and by many media critics and veterans was swift and often harsh and mocking in town. extensive coverage of a story includes piece business "the new york times," "washington post," baltimore sun and "usa today" with some calling for mr. williams to be fired. others came out in support of williams including paul rykoff founder of iraq and afghanistan

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financially for years and profits for the company plummeted in the face of rival tech stores and online competition. radioshack will continue to operate normally through the bankruptcy proceedings. >> this is a place that's -- they just had a terrible time. >> they have. technology has kind of surpassed them. i remember being so excited as a teen to go into radioshack. get all the newest stuff. >> the robots. >> sony walkman. >> i got one of those at radioshack last week. >> so did we. is that bad? >> have you heard this one from "the washington post," pope francis is about to make history once again. >> isn't this awesome? we have to go to congress. >> the pope is receiving attention for recent comments about disciplining children. speaking about the role of fatterfat fathers one time i heard a father say i sometimes have to smack my children a bit, but never in the face so as not to humiliate them. how beautiful.

he knows the sense of dignity, he has to punish them but does it justly and moves on. so the pope is okay with spanking. >> don't leave a mark. >> how about a hairbrush on the side of the highway? >> did your parents do that? >> yep. >> you went to catholic school as a kid. you know what the nuns do. the nuns were okay with me. by the time i went to catholic school i was 6'4" and they were school. >> well behaved? >> but no, but my dad, it was all one motion. he'd be driving, right, and he'd take off the belt and just a blind swipe across the back to the three kids. going to beat the hell out of you was the word. he was a gentle child. >> get all three with one lick? >> yeah it was more of a just like a wild ha. >> we all learned to duck. >> your sister and you. >> but my sister and me we would inflict the most -- she

was six years older. so when they weren't watching pow. >> george neff gotver got in trouble. the pew research survey say that 65% believe that the government is monitoring their phone calls and online searches. concerns over federal spying have kept them from pursuing a story or made them consider leaving investigative journalism altogether. although government surveillance is a top concern for journalists, 88% of those surveyed cited decreasing resources in newsrooms as the biggest challenge they face today. a big loss frustrating. >> you need your spouse investigating your phone. >> you do a -- >> how does that work. >> okay so far. >> if you do it and ask for information, they'll redact everything. you'll get nothing. >> you'll get a piece of paper,

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all right. let's get right to business at the bell with saraizen with the jobs numbers just out. >> coming in better than expect. looks like january 250,000 jobs were added. better than what economists were looking for, 234,000. we have a small tick up to 5.7% from 5.6%. still that's considered not such a bad thing because it means more people were coming in and looking for jobs. we did get more jobs than economists were looking for. just a reminder. last year a very steady year of job creation. the average monthly job created per month, 246 last year. so these are good numbers. anything above 200,000 signifies

that we're seeing an improving economy, we're seeing growth and on the plus side a tiny bit of wage growth. looks like wages were up 2.2% from last year. it's not enough really to get americans spending more and to get the kind of wages that we'd like to see keeping up with inflation in this economy, but still as long as that number's positive it's a pretty decent thing. it looks like stocks like the news, that better headline number on jobs. we'll see how they trade and react to it throughout the day. a good jobs report guys but they're still talking weakness in high level wage growth that we'd like to see in a booming economy. joining us the co-host of new york live jacque reid editor in chief of "glamour" magazine cindi leive. and founder of the milly collection designer michelle smith. there's a bowl. let's put them in. >> this is difficult.

>> no texting. jacqui, i saw you. michelle let's start with you. fashion week next week. >> fashion week is here. >> why should women care what will you have? >> statement coat bold colors. >> bold colors. >> yes, it will be a very vibrant, intense season. >> i love going. cindi, i've been your guest. >> yes you have. >> i've been to milly's shows, they're amazing, they're so hot. why should women look to it? what are they looking for? >> it's a bit of a crystal ball. fashion week 101. the shows that will be next week are being held in the swing but they're showing the fall 2015 collection. these clothes start rolling into stores mid-summer. what you see next week is a sneak peek at what everybody will be wearing in the fall or not depending on how much they love or don't the designer's collection. >> except for michelle's you don't feel like you can wear

them. >> runway is not meant to be worn head to toe. no one expects them to buy that look head to toe. >> i'm obsessed with it. i like everything on it. i think i overlike. can you overlike? because i see the beginnings of a lifestyle brand and i'm teasing out to something we're going to be doing together. more to come on that tba. but let's move on. because in "glamour" you have a really interesting story about the secrets of women who love their jobs. >> yes. >> tell me about it. because i have additions to this. some perspective is needed. >> you are a woman who loves her job. >> i do love my job. >> the truth is that everybody gets into a work slump sometimes. and it is especially common if you're between 25 and 40. they find that job satisfaction is actually lowest between those years because you have the least control over your work life. >> right. >> one thing when we talked to women who were genuinely happy

in their job, i try to pretend i'm new on the job. this is such a good trade. when you're first on the job you are walking around introducing yourself to everybody. after a while, you get into your rut, your head down at your desk. >> like a relationship. >> exactly. this is probably a good relationship tactic too, you need a new job. >> you need a new relationship. >> work smarter, not longer do something else you love create the job you want. learn the soft no. >> especially important for women. >> and ask yourself what's still missing. i want to add to it because for a lot of women we're unrealistic about balancing everything. we think if we don't love every bit of our job, something is wrong. you have to have a lot of unlovable jobs before you find the one you love. because all those experiences give you the perspective to appreciate a job that's really good for you. i had to give up bad hours. i thought i'd never work bad hours again when i worked

overnights for peter jennings that finally this one doesn't seem so bad. >> a bad job in the beginning is great. >> you have to have some bad jobs. >> the best thing my parents ever did for me was they made me work in a factory. >> you paid your dues. >> worked 12-hour shifts in a factory. every day to me now feels like hollywood. you have to work those bad jobs to unpleasant jobs to really -- >> to learn to love your job. >> and you also have to realize that not every day on the job is going to be a superhappy click your heels together day. >> if it worked the rich would keep it for themselves. >> instyle magazine is receiving criticism for a photo of actress kerrey washington on its cover. it erupted that her skin had been edited to be lighter. instyle addressed the concern

with a statement, while we did not digitally lighten kerry's skin tone our lighting has probably contributed to this concern. washington efrs tweeted beautiful statement. thank you for opening this convo. it's an important one that needs to be had. i don't know. i know lighting can affect -- we were playing with the lights here and washed our different skin tones out. it happened clearly in this picture. >> i don't know why magazines continue to make this mistake particularly with african-american women. it's a very sensitive issue. i'm glad that kerry washington tweeted out, this is a conversation that needs to be had. look no farther than viola davis speech. i'm so happy you chose to put a dark-skinned woman in a role like this and look at lupita nyong'o talking about as a child she saw no role models with her

hue, so she wanted to lighten her skin with cream and bleach. a really big issue. >> i love kerry washington. >> i do too. >> i think she's amazing. when she saw the picture to approve it she should have said -- >> yeah because before instyle made their statement she tweeted out the picture saying here's my cover. and you know i think she was proud of it. there might be some people and look at it and say because of lighting and things like that it's art. it's not necessarily an effort to look different. >> i think my phone's ringing. much more and we learn what the clooney effect is. excuse me? this is on dating? do you date? >> i do. at ally bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping.

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this is interesting. this study we're about to talk about. i actually have a book coming out in may that does a lot of polling on relationships and how women and men feel in their relationships when the women make more money. and now we're looking at dating which i now have to go to match.com which has a trend they're looking at here. and they're calling it the clooney effect. and it's a comprehensive national study on american singles. the study finds that 89% of single men want a partner with a sense of independence and 86% want a partner with the same level of intelligence. meanwhile, 74% of men think it's okay to date more than one person at a time. >> of course they do. >> mm-hmm. >> and 55% are not willing to support a partner financially. i actually find this fascinating

and a little bit disturbing in some ways but in some ways equalizing. you're the only person at the table dating. >> if you're married and it's not working, you're thinking about ending things don't do it. hold on to your man, ladies because it's crazy out there. >> there's no clooneys out there? >> amal got the last one. there are a lot of men out there -- i put it this way, men that are 35 and older that are still single are there for a reason. because they're undateable or they're not interested. >> what's so bad about them? >> it's bad. everybody's rejects. >> cindi? >> i actually thought this was a great and heartening study, that men want a woman who is their equal. i don't see it as the clooney effect. i see it as a working mother effect. because these are men that grew up with their moms working. they can be a contributor to the household and hold their own. >> you think this is helpful to

young girls, this message. >> this is what we worked so hard for, to be desired for our accomplishments. >> i'm dead serious in terms of the polls i'm looking at in the book i'm working on is that women are finding like they're doing everything instead of sharing. >> right. >> so that's the problem. >> my friends that are married, if it's equal, they're going to work maybe one or two jobs but they're also mainly the ones maintaining the household as far as taking care of the kids cooking, cleaning all of those things. when i get married, i don't necessarily want a husband, i want a wife. i have three jobs to help me out with all the things i want to do because the wife is a helpmate. >> that's a whole segment in itself. >> it is. >> but it's true. >> lewis, he's getting married, but make sure it's an equal partnership at home. >> you got it. it is equal. she's superior to me in every way. i'm okay with it.

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it is okay to say that i love taylor swift? >> yeah. >> it's okay? >> yeah. >> the trends expert for spot ta fi shannon cook. big year for taylor swift. how could it not be? >> "shake it off" has a good chance to take record of the year. great song. my 4-year-old daughter absolutes it. >> everyone, all girls all ages. >> i think she'll have a better

year. because her album isn't eligible for this year's grammys because it came out too late in the year. the nominations for "shake it off." >> beck beyonce, ed sheeran and sam smith. big year for sam smith even though he was sued by tom petty. >> even though it sounded like it ended amicably because tom petty got what he wanted i think sam smith will clean up. we predict that he'll take best new artist. when he performed on snl about a year ago america just fell in love with him. great singer very solid songwriter and a sweet guy. he'll have a great night. >> i like iggy azalea for best new artist. but that's because i have a 12-year-old daughter. >> i haven't heard of one of them, but sam smith is on there. explain these contenders here. sorry, i'm old. >> bastille is a band from the

uk who had a massive hit last year "pompeii." they shared their music in high numbers and when an artist or a song gets shared a lot, that's a big sign of buzz and hype. so you never know with this category. they can rise up. >> spotify looks at trends but if voters were voting who would they pick? >> we're going with sam smith. >> i highly agree. >> because in that category he got the most. >> record of the year. what are the options here? fancy, chandelier, stay with me shake it off, all about that bass? >> bass. >> it's a body love song. >> she's from nantucket, little known fact. meghan trainor's been nantucket. and apparently they have a big bass population. so it's all about that bass.

she's really big into fishing. >> i love meghan trainor, but i do think it's got to be taylor swift in that category? >> again? >> difference between record of the year and song of the year. record goes to the whole production. >> i love chandelier. >> thank you. i'm all for chandelier by sia. and our listeners loved this song the most from this category. i'm betting on sia. >> is spotify killing the record industry? >> look at the smile on her face. >> is there any alcohol in here? >> no, spotify is helping the music industry. >> joe is just asking. >> joe was at spotify recently performing on stage. he did a great time. >> i think spotify is tremendous for is many reasons. what are you doing to the record industry? you're killing it aren't you?

>> the record industry is in a huge state. streaming music is the delivery manner of choice. >> this is so politically well played. >> taylor swift is not on spotify. >> no. she pull her music late last year from our service, which is unfortunate. we hope she'll come back one day. we understand that when there's big change some artists are going to be resistant to the new hot model. >> is kanye west on spotify? >> yes, he's hugely popular. >> he retired from the grammys. >> thanks so much for coming on. what did we learn today?

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