fact. where's the restitution? what's happening to the environment? people have lost businesses and they are wondering what is their futch jer it's the untold story. we'll have a three-part series next week here on "the ed show" starting on tuesday, wednesday and thursday. the real story of the gulf. that's "the ed show." "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts now. good evening. >> good evening, ed and thanks to you for tuning in. we start with breaking news. an isis claiming an american hostage was killed in syria. they're saying she died in a jordanian air strike buried underneath the rubble of a building. but the u.s. has not been able to confirm any of this information. there is zero proof. a jordanian official calling it "illogical and highly skeptical." earlier today the hostage's family released her name and these photos of her.

kayla mueller is a 26-year-old aid worker from arizona. she dedicates her life to others. isis kidnapped her in 2013 while she worked at a doctors without borders hospital in syria. one senior defense official telling nbc news the entire intelligence community is working to gather the facts. u.n. ambassador susan rice says the u.s. is obviously concerned. >> we do not at the present have any evidence to corroborate isil's claims but obviously will keep reviewing the information at hand. >> joining me now is michael sheehan, and -- joining me now is keyir simmons. let's go now to nbc news foreign

correspondent keir simmons in amman, jordan. keir, a jordanian official called this a p.r. stunt. and another called it illogical. we know they are masters of propaganda. what are you hearing? >> reporter: that's right. al, in fact, they call it criminal propaganda and they are saying, the basic thing they are saying, they don't know whether this isis claim is true or not. after all, we are talking about about iraqa. what the jordanians are saying why would you trust a group that beheads incident people on camera that execute a jordanian pilot by setting him on fire alive? why would you trust them when to claim that she had been killed seems very convenient for them to be able to claim that with no

one able to say whether it's true or not. >> now, this comes after a jordanian pilot was burned to death by isis as you mentioned. >> reporter: right. >> the jordanian sing said they will fight until they run out of fuel and bullets. how does that play into this situation? >> reporter: that's absolutely right. king abdullah saying they will go after isis wherever they are, and it is an incredible turn of events. before the news tonight. because what we saw today before that was thousands of jordanians on the streets supporting this offensive against isis, and that was just a few days since the father of that pilot had questioned why jordan was involved in this fight, saying it isn't this country's fight to have. so what happened with the pilot appears to have swung public opinion here in jordan at least for the time being, and in a

really important way and changed the dynamics. again, though isis with this announcement appears to be trying to shift public opinion once again, both in this region and perhaps even in the u.s. >> well great reporting. thank you so much keir simmons. thank you for your reporting this evening. >> reporter: you bet. joining me now are michael sheehan, former head of special operations at the pentagon and harden lane an isis expert from the center of american progress. thank you both for being here. >> good to be here. >> my pleasure. >> michael, there's no proof either way here. how do we verify this? i mean what can they do? >> well it's going to be difficult for us to verify it but the history of isis normally when they verify someone's dead they'll show the body or the killing, and i think this -- i'm very skeptical in this case that they've actually that this bombing run killed this woman.

she may be already dead as was the case with the jordanian pilot. negotiating when he was already dead or perhaps still holding her. i'm very very skeptical, this convenient claim this jordanian bombing raid killed this very innocent young aid work. >> why so skeptical? why? >> because it's convenient. they're trying to blame the jordanians for this young woman they had kidnapped over a year and a half an innocent aid worker trying to shift the blame to this jordanian bombing and it's not working. that type of prop gand sda not working and even if they did kill her by the bombing raid they're still responsible for holding her hostage, an innocent aid worker. i'm just got not buying it. >> what intelligence did she have about the hostage, harden? >> thin so far in terms of what kind of information is out there in the open source. the type of intelligence we've got about the hostage. so i think at this stage it's probably better not to speculate

on what intel we did or did not have, only to note that the u.s. and jordan would have been sharing whatever they did have up to the minute before during after the bombing raid. so i don't think that's the issue there. but i would like to underscore what mike just said. to me this feels very much like a mail harry on the part ihail mary by the isis to create tension between jordan and isis after burning the jordanian pilot alive and the credibility that's on the streets of jordan. they're stumbling. >> would other nations become defiant like abdullah has in your opinion? >> what they've done in jordan will no doubt reverberate beyond the borders of jordan. this pushes back against the narrative isis puts out there, they're fighting on the behalf of sunni, and burning a jordanian sunni arab pilot to death isn't playing well anywhere in the region.

>> what do you think, michael? will other nations become defiant like king about buelldullah has? >> we're seen a few back away fearing they may get some of their pilots captured. the u.s. air force will continue bombing, and 3w078bombing the crap out of isis. they cannot win with an air campaign. isis will suffer. they communicate, we'll hear them and bomb them. no we can't defeat them with arn air campaign but we can really damage them and make them pay. >> let me ask you this harden. how badly are these bombings hurting isis? >> well we've seen a pretty big impact on the iraqi side of the border. michael's right again here what this bomb hag maximum impact. when it's paired with patter ins

on the partners on the ground. we've seen a rollback on the iraqi side working with the kurdish per mergekurd ish peshmerga. the combination of air land in iraq has made a big difference. on the syrian side of the border, air power alone really -- it's disruptive and keeps them off balance but not changing the strategic or tactic tactical momentum. >> you mentioned the aid worker reportedly killed by isis. she started working for the border of turkey and syria in 2012. in august of 2013 taken captive in syria, leaving a doctors without borders hospital and may 2014 was the first time her family was contacted to prove kayla was alive. what kind of intelligence did we have about her before today? >> well at one point it seems

now we're hearing reporting we did think we knew where he location was reverend al and a special operations forces launched an attack to try to rescue her but it appears we arrived a little late and she'd been moved to another location. it's very difficult to find someone like this. they're probably moving her from place to place, and right now we're not even sure she's alive. although at the time we launched that attack a while back we did have evidence she was alive. hopefully she still is alive and we'll be able to bring her to safety but it's going to be very difficult. >> harden, the information that is unfolding, we have u.n. ambassador susan rice discuss the u.s. plan ton handling isis today. listen? >> to degrade and ultimately defeat isil we've assembled a broad, from training iraqi securitys fors and supporting moderate opposition to encourage political reforms in iraq that

foster greater inclusion. with the world united in condemnation of its horrific executions isil should know their bar shberism fortified the world's collective resolve. >> where is this fight going harden? i mean, are we getting closer to troops on the ground? >> i hope we're not. i think the sense is here and i think it pretty much cuts against the dna of this administration to look at putting troops into a combat role here. obviously that doesn't apply to special operators. we won't hear a lot about what they're doing or not doing, but the census here in iraq we're beginning to make some progress. i think the national security adviser made a really good point about needing to keep pace having the politics keep pace with what we're doing on the ground militarily. the sunni outreach in iraq needs to continue besides a new secretary of defense who's

sunni. >> michael sheehan and harden lane, thank you both for your time this evening. >> thank you. >> thank you. straight ahead, president obama on the road touting a big day for jobs and the economy. plus jurors in the aaron hernandez murder trial tour his home and hear a bizarre joke in court today. please, stay with us. if you're running a business legalzoom has your back. over the last 10 years we've helped

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now to developing economic news, and the immense pressure on republicans to finally abandon some tired talking points. today a strong new jobs report extending the historic record of success under president obama. we've now had 59 straight months of private sector job growth. the longest streak on record. 2014 was the best year for job growth in 15 years. the last three months have been the best run in 17 years, and the country has alded over 200,000 jobs in each of the last 12 months. the best run in 20 years. it's great news for american families, and bad news for

republicans stuck on false talking points. about how the president's policies are supposedly destroying jobs. >> -- and all of these job-killing regulations that have become prolific in this administration. >> the dodd-frank bill is the jobs and housing destruction act. >> the stimulus has only made our economy worse. >> why would you want to increase the cost energy and kill more american jobs? >> job-killing and expensive rules through the environmental protection agency. >> obamacare which has become such a job killer in our economy. >> they've been repeating these claims for year and it's time to retire them once and for all. today president obama was in indiana where he talked about the country's recovery from the devastating bush recession, and the need to move forward. >> the reason we've gotten out of this recession over the last six years, is in part i'm going

to brag a little bit. we made some good decisions. we played the decision to save the auto industry. we made the decision to stabilize the financial system. >> we made a bunch of decisions to do infrastructure spending. >> america is poised for another good year. indianapolis is poised for another good year, as long as washington works to keep this progress going. >> joining me now are jared burnstein and jonathan capehart. thank you both for being heenchts thank you, that rev. >> jared, on this specific idea the president is pushing right now that can continue and expand this economic progress. >> right. i was listening to your introduction, i was reminded of that old movie, someone said paraphrasing, that word "job killer" i don't think it means what you think it means. right? the president is recognizing that in part because of policies that he has his fingerprints all

over the federal reserve has been helpful, of course that we've achieved a steady gdp growth and that economic recovery has reliably and clearly reached the job market. over the past three moss over 300,000, not only creating jobs doing so at a faster pace. look at the recent policy agenda the president is talking about in his budget infrastructure help with child care expanding the earned income credit these are ideas designed to help more of that growth reach normore people. that's a critical piece of this whoa like to work on. important as he suggested that congress not screw up the momentum we have, but i also would like to see them aspire to do more on this reconnection front. >> well, and it's been done basically create jobs in the private sector not the public sector. the congress would pass public

sector legislation in terms of infrastructure or something, we would see even more jobs and in areas that still have double-digit unemployment, like african-americans and the like? >> yes. certainly. and i think that's again, you're thinking about it the same way the president is and i am, which is we definitely have a recovery that's reaching the job market. i think that's unquestionable at this point. now we have to look at outstanding problems. things that still need work. the inequality story. the fact certain groups still face high unemployment rates. wages aren't growing quickly. those kind of things. >> jonathan what's harder for the gop? concede the president was right on the economy or keep straight face while attack the economic record he has? >> it's harder for them to concede. look, no matter how good the news is there are certain folks in the republican caucus who are so irrational that they can't

conceivably give the president any kind of credit for what he's been able to accomplish and the good jobs numbers that came out today. you know i recall when president bush was president, every time there was a good jobs report, every time there was a good piece of economic news it was proof that president's policies were working. well if that's the case under president george w. bush it certainly should be the case under president obama, especially since when we came into office the economic hell he inherited and had to stave off to save the national economy, but the global economy at the same -- also. and now here we are six years later having the best economic recovery we've had in a very long time great jobs numbers. gas prices are still -- they're inching back up but still low. unemployment ticked back up. jared can correct me, more people are getting into the job

markets looking for jobs and they'll find them. >> in addition to that jared, one of the headlines from today's jobs report that i struck -- struck my eye was the average hourly wages are up a half a cent. a half a percent, rather. it's the biggest monthly gain for hourly wages in six years. how do we keep wages going that way? >> well i think the answer that that question is that we stay on this accelerated track in terms of improved job growth. people coming sbook theback into the labor market and finding more work. look year over year the way i measure the weight trends. wages are up 2.2%. kind of around where they've been. jonathan mentioned, inflation now because of this energy price spike, inflation has been growing at less than 1%. we now have achieved real hourly wage growth. in order for this recovery to reach some of the folks we talking about before who had

really it really hasn't reached enough yet, we have to remain steady at the helm. congress get into debt default deals, highway trust fund screw-ups. we've got to keep tightening the job market because we're not at full employment yet but moving in that direction. >>? that part of the story, jonathan? with all the obstruction, the president has been able to deliver every month over and over and over again to where now he's set a record and he's done this facing a head wind not a back wind? that is pushing it along? >> right. it speaks to the president's skill. i remember for the last six years we've been talking about, or at least here in the washington bubble all of this talk how the president is hapless. how the president can't seem to work with congress. how the president isn't getting anything done. how the president is being thwarted in every direction to do anything about the economy. why won't he focus on jobs? why won't he focus on the

financial health of the american people? well, we're now seeing that once again we have a pleepd is is a long-ball player and doesn't get distracted by the cacophony of the everyday news cycle. it focused on achieving the goal, and the goal is being achieved. >> jared bernstein and jonathan capehart, thank you for your time. have a good weekend. >> thanks, rev. you, too. still ahead a bizarre joke in the aaron hernandez murder trial. the judge was -- not amused. also our special interview with the president's former body man. reggie love. but first -- what do rand paul pete carroll and left shaw have in common? coming up in rev al's report card, next. good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male

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it's time now for reserved al's weekly report card. >> let's get to it. it was a huge controversy in the midst of a measle outbreak. senator rand paul questioned vaccines. >> i've heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. i'm not argues vaccines are a bad idea. i think they're a good thing. >> then the damage control, saying he's not sure if he's different from the president on vaccines, and tweeting a picture getting a booster shot. senator paul gets a double f for flip-flop for his double-talk on vaccines. next up, super bowl grades. i struggled how degrades coach

pete carroll thought would be a w.c.e. for worst call ever but then this happened. >> have you allowed yourself to have that one moment lying in bed where the tears flowed, where you're smiling at me but i mean it. has there been that moment? >> that happened at that 4:5 morning. >> tuesday morning? >> a break where i aloud all of the rush of it to hit. >> now he should have run the ball. but he gets an a for admirable for speaking up and admitting he cried. but the highest grade of the week, it goes to this guy. katy perry's dancing left shark. he may not have had the moves right at the super bowl but he sure danced into our hearts. the left shark gets an a-plus for a great performance. thanks to all of my schoolers

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time for the justice files. joining me now our legal analyst eric gusta and sima eyre. thank you both for being here. >> thanks for having us. >> we start with the aaron hernandez trial. pleaded not guilty to the death of odin lloyd. the defense was ordered to remove religious images and sports memorabilia. from the days that he was with the patriots, prosecutors say these were added after the crime. and what they claim was an attempt to sway the jury. sima would jurors really view hernandez better because they see football jerseys or

religious images? does that sort of thing work? >> rev wouldn't you? seeing him at the football hero he was. seeing pictures of jesus and mary just appropriately placed. that's going to give him more of an heir of likability and of course sway the jurors. the jurors need to see aaron hernandez as someone's son, someone's teammate someone they can fall in love with. >> and someone who wouldn't hurt anyone. that's why a lot of defendants carry bibles into the courtroom trying to influence the jury and judge. >> that's because the defense tells them to absolutely not. >> this week we also saw the judge warn the victim's mother not to try on the witness stand while looking at photos of her dead son. listen to this. >> contain control of your emotions and not to cry while you're looking at any photo that may be shown to you. do you understand that?

>> yes, ma'am. >> i mean telling a grieving mother, eric that she can't show emotion on the stand. is that a reasonable request? >> it's a tough request. because what the judge is trying to make sure make sure any emotional reference does not influence the jury. sometimes people get very emotional which this is an emotional case. her son is denchtsd you'read. >> you're looking at pictures of your son. >> and a very emotional case. that's why the judge is trying to make sure aaron hernandez gets a fair trial and no room for appeal. >> that infringes upon testimony nap is the judge telling a witness thousando you to testify. crying on the stand, rev, is a equivalent a certain type of testimony. in the transcript if a witness can't enunciate words the reporter would indicate krieg, or crying or sobbing.

>> the judge would tell them to elimb beate -- >> come on. and it works? >> yes. you cannot allow emotion to taint your verdict. >> now i see what all that screaming i was hearing in the makeup room. let me ask you something else sima. yesterday examining a witness hernandez' lawyer made a joke in court about the deflate-gate football scandal. watch this. >> one of the things you receive specialized training in 1 tire deflation, tire deflation devices? right? >> a certain kind of tire deflation device, yes. >> okay. >> did you ever receive training in football deflation devices? >> i mean the judge later reprimanded the lawyer and he apologized but what was he thinking? >> no, rev. i think it's completely appropriate to bring levity even in the most serious cases. i cannot stand judge whose don't let me make jokes.

rev, you know i like to make jokes, am very funny and like to do my schtick in front of the jury. >> ho told you you're funny? as a defense lawyer dealing with a murder trial you're trying to lighten the mood as much as you can because it's so somber. you have a mother krieg. >> so that's part of an attorney's strategy? >> absolutely. it's a very serious case. everyone knows that but you want to lighten the mood as much as can you, because the mat sir so serious about a man being killed and you want the jury to have a lighter sense of what's going on and to pay attention to the testimony, not all the emotion. >> let me switch gears here. the 15 minutes of fame for a left shark may be coming to a close. at least if katy perry's lawyers have flig to say about it. left shark rose to instant internet fame during the super bowl half time show for being out of sync and at times creating his own choreography

during the katy perry performance. now someone, not the guy inside the shark suit has made a 3d printable left shark figurine and katie's lawyers are not happy. they sent a letter to the sculptor demanding he cease and desist claiming they own the rights to left shark. now the sculptor launch add gofundme page to raise legal funds to fight the case. sima, can katy perry really claim the copyright to left shark? >> no. she cannot. and this is bullying. there's no other way to say it. the man who's making these 3d objects, he doesn't know or maybe doesn't have the money 20to hire a lawyer. he's not violating any copyright infringement laws? >> you agree, eric? >> totally. a big law firm picking on little

guy. shame on them. they didn't have is a copyright. how can you tell someone to cease and desist if you don't have the copyright to this left shark? >> because it's not part of the artist's work. the work is actually the -- >> the music and the -- the show that she put on. but it's like a costume. a costume is not able to be copyrighted. >> and certainly what the shark did, left shark did they didn't even know they were going to do. that wasn't choreographed. >> they're not copyrightable either. >> it became famous by mistake and now they're trying to katy perry and her folks trying to -- >> i think she's jealous. left shark and missy elliot. >> yeah. i have to leave it there. thank you both for your time and have a good weekend. be sure to watch sima on "the docket" by msnbc. coming up mike huckabee's footloose past. how he turned his old opposition to dancing into a new attack on the president. and the so-called chief of

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time now for "conversation nation." joining us alana menkowske. senior editor of mike.com liz plank and political editor for "roll call" sierra center. thank you all for being here toenchts thank you. >> first up mike huckabee is getting a lot of 2016 attention, and buzzfeed dug up this blast from the past in high school. huck aouiabee wrote in a newspaper column, "i strongly recommend that christian teens stay away from dancing." no dancing? where do i knee from? ♪ footloose, cut loose, kick off your sunday shoes ♪ >> so people thought it was a little corny, but not really a story. but huckabee responded by saying other candidates use

drugs as teenagers, and he couldn't resist throwing this in. i. mean i just had to say, is this really controversial? i'd much rather defend this than to say yes, i used to regularly be part of the chewing gang. just bizarre. >> the chun gang is what president obama and his friends called themselves in high school when they smoked marijuana subpoena this how they get traction? they go after the president? >> that is generally how republicans running for the primary are getting traction these days. it's clear mike huck asuiabee is not angling for a youth vote or anybody under 65. solely trying to get the white christian vote in the south and if that's his m.o. that's what he'll do. more power to him. >> well i think what this shows is that mike huckabee is i

mean, profoundly uncool, and you know, to your point, he's not going to be reaching the youth vote. he's not going to be reaching millennials. but millennials are profoundly important to the future of the republican party. they're going to be an important demographic to reach for the 2016 race. so this is not only not reaching reaching -- i think even donors who are looking at him talking about beyonce or bacon or dance parties, he'll have to talk about issue, policies. what is he going to be doing in 2016. it he's running other than banning everything that's like cool. >> and this is after the beyonce fiasco as well. >> right. i think mike huck aabee has a problem with his mouth. cussing, like it was making jews serve up bacon-wrapped shrimp. crear cleary tryly trying to deflect.

i don't think we need to focus on things people said, thought, wrote or believed in high school. we all gothrough phases change our minds. mike huck aouiabees opinions are much more damping today. >> i agree. now to harvard university. banning professors for having sexual or romantic relationships with undergraduates. several of the schools including yale and the university of connecticut are doing the same. liz, it's 2015. why are we only seeing this ban now? >> look, i think a lot of people thought this ban already existed. >> yes. >> i'm very glad it's being implemented. directly and officially. but as a person who has spent time in academia i can tell you -- i don't know a single woman who hasn't been or experienced some form of sexual harassment. some form of these romantic relationships are not always

consensual and a lot of power dynamics when you're working under a supervisor it's difficult to refuse these advances that make you uncomfortable. actually seven out of ten whim have worked in academia have experienced some form of it. and it's often coming from supervisors. often coming from people who are in position of power. so we really need to address this power dynamic, especially with undergraduate students. >> let me go to you. >> i disagree more just that a ban is the right way to go about things. kind of like putting an band-aid on an issue or sweep it under the rug. if the problem is sexual harassments and the way you have people trying to exploit their pow around use it over younger people, or those that are they are professor or two, then you should actually address the culture. talk about that instead of just banning it. not to mention, who knows what might happen on college campuses? these are also people who are adults. not everybody who's an undergraduate is 17 or 18 years old and they should be able to

make their own choices about consensual relationships. >> that bringing the question does it have to be a policy? >> does it have to be a policy? it probably should be written down at least for the university's open protectionwn protection? this is not something they condone or should be in any cases committed. if i remember correctly in undergraduate years, professors are one case but i think the ban also addresses relationships between teaching assistants and graduate assistants with students and those people work much more closely with students on the whole. that protection is probably more important in the end. >> yeah, but i think the point is that it's only now a policy and we've seen so much down through the years. all right. let me leave it there. thank you all for joininga conversation nation" tonight. have a great weekend. >> you, too. we'll be right back with president obama's former body man, reggie love.

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for only 50 delicious calories. they call him the body man, the person closest to the president. the president's personal aide is a history in the making and for five years reggie love had the privilege of being one of the closest people to the president. every single day. from senator obama's 2008 campaign to his first years in the white house. the self-described chief of stuff said he was the president's deejay travel agent, messenger, punching bag, alarm clock, vendsing machine and his surrogate son. >> there are times where i'm not so calm. reggie love knows. my wife knows. >> actually kind of like your

assistant, your right-hand man? >> he is the guy who makes sure i'm in the right place at the right time. hands me stuff right before i need it otherwise i lose it. all-around great guy. >> new memoir titled "power forward" my presidential education. giving us a glimpse what it's like to be one of the few to saev president so closely. joining me now is reggie love. reggie, thank you for being here. >> reverend sharpton, thank you for having me and for that very jeng generous introduction. i appreciate that. >> you've had quite an amazing journey. when you became his body man there was no training for the job. how did you keep up with the president in those early days? >> you know i've got to tell you, it was pretty tough, but it was also inspiring to see a guy who's more than half my age, work as tirelessly and as on as

few hours of sleep as he did, but i write in the book i definitely made a lot of mistakes. i tried not to make the same mistakes twice, and he -- he was was -- and he was good with me as i was sort of going through those learning curves. he would always say that you know, in 2007, we were -- we building the plane, while it was speeding down the runway. ready for takeoff. >> wow. >> now you and the president form add bond over basketball. how did that start? >> i remember the first time you know i got an e-mail from the senator, and it was about four months into the campaign and it was -- it was late at night. i look at it and it's -- it's tony parker's stat line. and i -- you know i have a huge grin and i kind of write back quickly you know that's pretty

good but i insert chris paul staten line which was a little better that night. it was the first interaction i was really kind of you know not related to sort of the daily grind of the campaign. and you know he's an avid basketball player. so we also played a little ball. >> when you play, do you let the president win? >> no man. you cannot -- i mean the guy, he talks so much trash. i mean if he does win, or when he does win, it is -- it's a long week. you've got -- you're itching to get back out there to try to to get another game in. >> wow. you know i obviously have seen you on many occasions, and in my visits to the president on my civil rights work. did you ever -- i'd see you in a lot of these things that were historic. did you ever pinch yourself to

say, am i really here? am i really a part of this? >> i mean every day. you know, i remember one day you know -- i got to meet like great people all the time. like yourself, reverend jesse jackson. you know i met kofi annan walking into the west wing. i really was just -- an endless amount of amazing experiences that were able to shape me and to grow me and to be totally honest, it's quite humbling fop see. to see all of these great men and all of the things they've been able to achieve and all the value they've been able to create for their communities. it made me and continues to make me want to stay engaged and active in the political process. >> wow. >> and to figure out how to continue to create value for as

many people as possible. >> reggie, let's do rapid fire questions. >> okay. >> best working at the white house? >> air force one. >> best food at the white house. >> the 44 burger and the waffle fries. >> ah. coolest place you went with the president? >> oh man. such a -- the pyramids in cairo. >> favorite celebrity you met. >> now that's a no-brainer. that's jay-z. >> finally -- the biggest lesson you learned from working with president obama? >> that's a hard one. i learned a lot of them but i think the thing that i will always take away from him is his ability to empathize with other people. you know i told -- i told the story about how he had given -- he'd written an anonymous check

to people down on their luck he'd met throughout the campaign and never made a story of it and there were points in times where it wasn't even sure he was going to be the nominee let alone president and even at that early stage in the game, you know, he was really focused on how he could you know make things a little better for people who have it a little worse off than he d. wow. reggie love thank you for your time this evening. again -- the book is called "power forward: my presidential education." >> well thank you for having me. you're a good man. and i appreciate all of your hard work and service, man. >> thank you, reggie. thank you so much. >> all right. take care. and i appreciate the humble as well as even spread of reggie love. it reminds me of the president himself and a lot of his team. not getting too hot. not getting too cold. good days don't make them too intoxicated with glory and bad

days does not make them too depressed. if you have people like reggie love by your side that can keep their head they can grow. take someone under your wing. help them grow like reggie love did under the president. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. have a good weekend. "hardball" starts right now. dying for humanity. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington. let me start tonight with news that the last known american captive of isis 26-year-old humanitarian work kayla mueller today isis said she was killed in an air strike. buried in the rubble of a building. the united states has not confirmed that claim at all. mule sir from