welcome back. let's get a check on the day ahead. president obama and german today. the crisis in ukraine and relations with russia are expected to dominate that meeting. jury selection continues for the man accuse of killing famed navy s.e.a.l. sniper kiss kyle and his friend. 27-year-old eddie is expected to plead not guilty by reasons of insanity. that's going to do it for "way too early." stick around. "morning joe" starts right now. you know, mika,ic it's time. >> it's ting for what? >> i think it's time. >> tell me. >> i think it's time for your hero. >> what? >> i think it's time for the moment you have posters all over your room. >> what are you talking about? >> and the named your cat after and you have the stickers on all

of your cars and your buick and your vw. >> i think i know what you're getting at. but you're starting with this? >> i think it's time for elizabeth warren to run. >> i do too. okay. good. >> no, but you were just talking about before i think it's time for her to run. >> i think a lot of other people think it's time for her to run, too. >> boy, we've got a lot to talk about today. awful lot to talk about. obviously what's going on with isis. what's going on with jordan actually stepping up and vowing revenge, saying they're going to destroy isis. it's a leadership that we haven't seen in quite some time. new polls are out in iowa. we, of course, have, to for us the very sad brian williams saga we're going to get to. i am just curious what you think about elizabeth warren really quickly because there's just more talk about her being ready to go and hillary still sitting around with this remarkable war machine. and they can't figure out -- they're trying to figure out what hillary clinton stands for.

they're having meetings to figure out what hillary clinton stands for. they're paying tons of money to figure out what she believes. >> i think the problem is like picking issues. what will work what's going to get in the pocket of winning an election. you feel like that's what these meetings are for. >> yeah. they're trying to figure at what hillary clinton believes. >> right. >> which is remarkable because elizabeth warren knows what she believes. >> that's right. >> you look at the fact that the rich are getting richer. the poor are getting poorer. you look at the fact that income disparity is bigger than it's ever been. you look at the fact that woking class americans are falling behind on wages. more believe their children will not do as well as they are doing for the first time ever in these pollings. billionaires are paying 14% tax rates. their secretaries are paying 28% tax rates. this is the time in what you need to understand is that these times don't come along very often. you know john high manhigh man and

i could tell you. you hung out in chicago for a while, right? >> sure did. >> chicago cubs won the world series in 1907 and 1908. you know they're thinking hey, we're going to win in 1909 too. >> come on. >> it's the last time the chicago cubs won the world series, 1908. get a friend he had a ring, he was going to give it to his girlfriend who he loved madly. he goes to dinner decides, you know time is not right. basically says i'm going to get back to you, honey. she goes out crying. leaves him. 25 years later the guy is still walking around like a zombie. >> what? >> he said his time passed. he had his time. the moment passed. the moment also could pass for elizabeth warren. >> i see the parallel. >> in politics jfk said -- >> i thought he was hillary. >> you run to it.

>> right? >> no, he wasn't hillary. he was elizabeth. and cubs are hillary? >> no -- >> they're elizabeth. >> they're both elizabeth. >> i'm sorry. >> this is hard for me. >> they're all elizabeth. >> i got it. >> stay with me. stay with me. you think that you're going the get another chance. you any that everything is okay. >> elizabeth. >> you think, you know what tomorrow is another day but sometimes tomorrow never comes. in presidential politics you know this better than anybody else, sometimes tomorrow doesn't come. >> right. >> and this is her chance. the sky will never be bluer. jfk said when there's blue sky in politics you run to it. she can't wait four years. if she's going to run, she needs to run now. are you with me now? >> i'm with you. i thought the guy was hillary and the cubs were -- >> that was our -- the aardvark. >> got it. >> the walrus will you tell her who the walrus was? >> i'm the walrus. >> the walrus was paul. >> the walrus freaks me out. >> here's another clue for you

all. >> all right. >> the walrus was paul. >> i thought you were the walrus. >> what? >> this is strange. >> all right. we're going to start with jordan's onslaught against islamic state militants. they carried out five dozen air strikes since the jordanian pilot was burned alive. >> many include logistic sites and training camps. the leader of jordan's air force is promising to quote, wipe them from the face of the earth. it comes as u.s. military advisers are training iraqi security forces for an offensive to proclaim mosul and fallujah. the efforts will likely involve risky urban warfare. but in an exclusive interview on nbc's "meet the press" secretary of state john kerry said he is confident the u.s. led coalition has the upper hand against isis. >> are we actually winning and our goal of do min anybodying and eventually destroying isis? >> well, i believe we are on the

road to yes. i absolutely do. and i think the evidence is not in my saying it but it's in the facts of what is happening. we have taken out a significant proportion of the top leadership of isis. their command and control facilities have been attacked interrupting their command and control. they no longer can communicate the way they were as openly. they no longer travel in convoys the way they were as openly. we have said since the beginning this is a long-term operation, not a short-term one. but we believe everything including the governing process in iraq itself, is moving in the right direction. >> meanwhile, the parents of an american female aide worker who was kidnapped by isis militants are holding out hope that she's still alive. islamic state militants on friday said that kayla mueller was killed during one of jordan's air strikes in syria but u.s. officials say there's no evidence to support the claims. and jordan says the air strikes

were miles away from where kayla was being held. she was kidnapped 18 months ago when she left a hospital run by doctors without borders. that's the aide group. until friday her family asked news organizations not to report her name citing safety concerns. kayla's family was opposed to a risky military mission to rescue her, preferring negotiation talks inside. that led to u.s. officials rejecting proposals before they reached president obama. >> wonderful, wonderful young lady from everything that we've read about her. >> we're going to have more here live coming up. nbc news correspondent joins us live from a jordanian air base not far from the syrian border. what is the latest on the ground there? >> mika i'm standing in front of the aircraft. when secretary of state says they're destroying isis depots when they talk about wiping isis

from the face of the earth. this is what they're talking about using. this is 2,000 pounds mk-84 bomb that they are dropping from these f-16s. >> i think we lost kier's shot. we're going to work on bringing that back because clearly jordan is stepping up the pressure as well. let's go to the latest on the dangerous and wintry conditions along several northeastern states. you know what every sunday night is? >> what? >> celebration. kids at my house every sunday night have a celebration because they find out they don't have to go to school on monday. that's happened three weeks in a row. >> fourth winter storm in two weeks. threatening -- >> who would have ever guessed that when we moved to nova scotia scotia. long commute. >> including boston for the mayor warned they are, quote, running out of space to put it.

>> the storms that we're getting is unprecedented. we've never seen this type of snow in the city of boston in the history of our city. there are discussions there could be more snow at the end of the week. we are focusing on one storm at a time and working to make sure we can clear this storm up as we're removing some snow from the past. >> you would never guess i came from boston. >> the weather channel's jim cantore. jim? >> reporter: yeah he's right. i mean, if you look at the five day, seven day, ten day, and closing in now on the one-inch of the 30-day snowfall record this is more snow than we've ever had in boston. removing but melting 400 tons an hour, they still have no room at the snow yards to put the snow. so i mean this is getting into one of those i guess so ises where, you know everybody is going to have to get back to the traditional snowshoes, maybe some horse, buggy. because it's just not going to be able -- we just can't clear the streets and get the snow off the roads p this is the eighth day that boston ski city schools

have canceled classes. eighth day. most they've ever had in the last 20 years. so the most they've had in the last 20 years for boston city schools. once we get into the nine ten, they canceled for tomorrow, now we have to startic taking away days from spring breaks because they're already going to go to june 30th. they cannot go into july because of the contract with teachers. >> come on. >> can you imagine going to school through june 30th? >> no. >> that's unbelievable. >> you can't do that to the kids. >> come on. >> we're outraged. shocked and stunned. >> jim, thank you. >> thank you. >> that's what i don't understand. yankees do school because, you know, we lived in upstate new york when i was like -- lived in upstate new york and you go to school at 7:30 get out at 3:30. and then we would get out of -- for summer vacation like june 27th. i went down to florida, man, catholic high school pensacola, florida. you go in at 8:30. you're out at 1:45.

>> 1:45? >> yeah everybody is going to the beach. >> wow. >> and then school ends like may 10th. and you're just like this until after labor day. >> no. you went back early august. they make up for it. you go back too early. >> they do now. not when i was there. >> maybe school started but you weren't there. >> and then lunch, we had the longest lunch. but then again, that's because i would go off campus every day. i would go to morrison's and have lunch. >> am i super ignorant or does everybody at the table know there are snow yards. >> so much snow. >> i'm in california so i presume this is just stuff that everyone else knows and i don't know. >> normal thing, like there are snow yards in big cities? >> carry it across the city and put tlit? no wonder it takes so long. >> let's ask the expert. >> i think it's time to rely on the great wiz, the late, great, marion barry and what he said about snow removal. do you remember this? >> no. >> god brung it.

god can take it away. i think he was in jamaica at the time. >> let's bring in meteorologist bill karins now with the late sdples not only do they have snow yards but in the snow yards they have snow melters now, too. they have machines that will be melting snow. why they just can't dump it in the harbor i have yet to figure out. let's talk about what's going to happen in the next period of time through valentine's. this is going to be a brutal stretch. this will be the worse in new england we've seen yet. it may make this storm look like nothing. first off, obviously it's snowing. we know that. we can deal with the snow. the other issue we have is the ice. be careful around the new york city area especially in northern new jersey southern connecticut. we've got freezing rain. there was no snow before that either. so the pavement just has a coating of ice on it. untreated roads, your sidewalk and front step. be careful when you walk out this morning. it may catch you off guard. we're only going to pick up five six inches on top of the three or four feet we have on the ground around boston and new

england. there's no melting. we're in the 20s all week long. there's another snowstorm in boston thursday, cold blast friday. another snowstorm in the weekend. here's what i was talking about with the temperatures. the arctic blast comes down from the northern plains. friday will be the brutal morning in the northeast. windchills in new york are expected to be down around negative ten to negative 20. that's much colder than we've had any time this winter. then on sunday it could be worse than that. so there's really no hope in sight right through the next ten days we're in the thick of it. >> bill karins, thanks very much. now, to the latest details on the situation involving nbc's brian williams. there were a lot of developments over the weekend. here's where things stand now. >> i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. >> reporter: brian williams will not be in the anchor chair this evening after a self-imposed suspension from nbc "nightly

news" following his admission he misled the public about his experiences covering the iraq war back in 2003. in a statement to staffers posted online saturday, williams writes, quote, in the midst of a career spent covering and consuming news it has become painfully apparent to me they am presently too much a part of the news. due to my actions. as managing editor of "nbc nightly news," i have decided to take myself off my daily broadcast for the next several days. and lester holt has kindly agreed to sit in for me to allow us to adequately deal with this issue. upon my return i will continue my career-long effort to be worthy of the trust of those who place their trust in us. the hiatus follows a whirlwind six days for williams whose story of riding in a helicopter that was hit with rpg fire was exposed as fiction by the pilots who actually were on the damaged aircraft. williams' initial apology is also facing scrutiny by those

who say it glossed over the fact that he repeated the story numerous times. >> i don't know where that unbridled confidence came from. i've done some ridiculously stupid things under that banner like being in a helicopter i had no business being in in iraq with rounds coming into the airframe airframe. but i -- >> did you think you would die? >> briefly, sure there have been probably handful of us. >> yeah. >> but -- >> do you tell yourself that's the job? >> oh, absolutely. >> we were going to drop some bridge portions across the euphrates so the third infantry could cross on them. two of our four helicopters were hit by ground fire including the one i was in. >> >> no kidding. >> rpg and ak-47. >> reporter: they informed the news division she has a team checking facts about williams' actions during his stay in iraq. but "the washington post" and

other news outlets are also raising questions about stories told recovering his time covering hurricane katrina. maureen dowd use her column yesterday to quote sources claiming that williams has a long history of inflating his resume. and late last night news broke the david letterman appearance scheduled for later this week has now been canceled. and there is no word on when the most watched broadcast news anchor will return to his nightly news post. >> all right. what do you think? >> well, it's really tough for us as a friend of ours who is also in this business. very well known anchor said he would rather eat dirt than have to talk about this. i mean brian -- just so our viewers know when i say there are politicians that i know and i'm personal friends with i say it. brian is not only a colleague, brian is a friend. he's a friend of our family.

brian is not only a friend of our family he is also our neighbor. we literally live just around the corner from each other. and when we moved to town he showed -- and his family showed extraordinarilyrd narlordinary kindness to our son and daughter. and they have been nothing but extraordinarily remarkable, kind giving people to us in a way i know it will shock you, not everybody in this industry is especially when you reach the level and the height that brian did. i'm -- i'm just hopeful because i can't be objective here. i'm hopeful that when all madness on twitter and all the madness online and all the madness that's going on right now, the investigations that need to be going on we're not

saying they don't need to be going on but when the fury dies down and when we get through this storm and the decision is made to judge what brian williams' future should be that that decision will be based on the entirety of his career and not only one or two or three mistakes. bad mistakes yes. they were bad mistakes. and guess what -- >> he would say that. >> guess what he says that. we all make bad mistakes. i just -- you know one of the things -- one of the versus in the bible that always -- always makes me a little nervous before i start judging other people is the one that says that you will be judged and you will be given the mercy that you show others. i think we should all step back and ask whether we are so perfect that we want to be the ones to cast that first stone.

let ye who is without sin cast the first stone. i'm in no position to cast the first stone. and quite frankly, in over a decade in this news business it is fair to say looking straight in the camera, i've seen a lot, i know a lot, and i know that there are very few people in this industry or in politics that could live by the standard of perfection. cast the first stone, i would be careful. i think -- i think right now the entirety of everything that brian has done including the peabody awards that he won for his remarkable katrina coverage should be taken into effect and people should consider again, the totality of a man's life and not one or two mistakes. >> well, i've been thinking about it all weekend and talking about it with people and kind of horrified by the pile-on that i'm seeing out there. i guess it's part of the game and brian would know that too.

but it's hard. and while, as you point out, while these errors are very human and none of us are above them, i'm also well aware that brian williams is one of the few people in the face of the earth who is held to a different standard and he knows that. i think this is hard to know if we can even be objective because we know brian, we like him, we respect him. this is in our house and it's very painful. something we were talking about last night on the phone, willie. >> yeah. for all the reasons you said and we should start as joe did by saying i can't account for and i certainly don't excuse any of the mistakes were made. mistakes brian himself admitted to. all i can tell you is how he's treated me how he's viewed inside this building. ten years ago when i was a producer on an msnbc show that nobody knew brian took an interest in me encouraged me, he's been a mentor in some ways,

he's a guy i've looked up to quite a bit. so again he did what he did. he said what he did. and i think when the facts come out people can judge him the way they want to judge him. they have every right if they don't want to watch him anymore, that's their right. i agree that i think we should look at the totality of the man, how he treats other people what kind of family man he is, what he's done by in the way in the veterans community. again, not excusing what he said, to a lot of veterans he's actually a hero in some ways. it's difficult. it's a hard time for all of us. and no one feels worse right now than brian williams. >> i think you have to put it in perspective, too. >> if he exaggerated, if he sort of puffed his chest out a little bit, news people do that. politicians do that. guy s do that. we've all done that at times. you have to ask the question where was it done.

done on "david letterman" or made it a habit when he was reporting the news. obviously when he was reporting the news would make it much worse. you know, i saw -- i saw somebody write yesterday saying a misstatement or an exaggeration about a helicopter is far less damning to the future of this country than the reams of misinformation that were reported leading up to the iraq war that got us into a decade-long war when a lot of reporters should have asked a lot tougher questions and, you know i put myself right there because i was -- that's when i first got into this business right at the top of the list. so again, i think we all have done things that we regret and i would dare say some people have done things in front of a camera reporting making mistakes not following the story the way they should have followed the story that probably led to a lot more

pain and misery and suffering than a misstatement or even a lie about where you were in iraq when you were there. anyway -- >> but to be clear, our business is predicated on integrity and telling the truth and being completely transparent. no one here is excusing what brian has done and some have alleged he's done. we're just talking about the man right now. >> we're talking about the man. we're talking about the man and nobody has excue kussed it. >> there are about five debates we can have out of this but i don't think we can have it. >> it's also tougher for brian and it's tougher for any host any broadcast news anchor. because, you know they -- they read four or five minutes of news and toss to packages and so much of what they're judged on is intangible. do you trust them? we're here for three hours. we can screw up 12 times in the

first hour hour two, hour three, make up for it. but it is much much tougher. and you're exactly right, willie. nobody here is excusing what brian's done. we're just talking about as friends we just can't be as objective. still ahead on "morning joe," we remember dean smith, a college basketball coaching legend and the man michael jordan calls a second father. and speaking of basketball, sure, the knicks are bad but wait until you hear what owner james dolan has to say who changed allegiance to the nets. and later, a deadly crash involving bruce jenner. what his publicist is saying about the accident. also why miss universe may be key to peace in colombia. >> you know we talked to her about that willie and i. >> yes. >> and it ends up she supposed fors world peace. >> i thought it was a gutsy, gutsy move.

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time now to take a look at the morning papers. the "new york times," president obama is set to host xin that's president at the white house for an official state visit later this year. safer to do it at the white house. >> yeah. >> it would be the first for china's leader who visited the u.s. as vice president four years ago and who studied in iowa during the 1980s. the obama administration also extended invitations to leaders of japan, south korea, and indonesia. the white house has not yet announced when the chinese president will arrive. from the "los angeles times," a publicist for bruce jenner says the star was not texting while driving during a fatal car crash in malibu on saturday. the former olympian issues a

statement offering sympathy to the family of the victim saying quote, it is a devastating tragedy and i can 23409not pretend to imagine what this family is going through that the time. police say a prius slowed down or stopped and was hit bay white lexus which was then rear-ended by jenner's cadillac escalade. the driver of the lech xusxus, 9-year-old died. her lexus was hit again by a hummer. officials tell nbc los angeles that while paparazzi were following jenner it does not a appear jenner was trying to evade the toing tophotographers. from the bbc, appealing to the new miss universe to help in peace talks with the government. paulina vega who was on our show she won the crown last month. she had spoken in interviews ability hoping to end the violence in her home country. well now the group phone as

farc is asking the pageant winner to fly to cuba for the negotiations. so far there is no response from miss universe about the invitation. >> willie told us because she was asking us this where do you think the leverage is in these negotiations and willie and i both, we were talking about farc right? >> because we do. >> as we always do. we -- we have a consulting business on the side. a lot has to do with consulting beauty queens. >> pageant winners and runners-up. >> runners-up,ia we. yeah. sometimes runners-up. >> oh, my lord. >> anyway how to bring peace to the globe. and i think we got a chance with this one. >> important work that we're doing. >> i think it is important. >> okay. let's go to espn.com. sad news for the world of college basketball losing the icon of. passing of former north carolina head coach, dean smith. the hall of famer won two national titles in his 36

seasons at carol careina and led the u.s. men's team to olympic gold medal in 1976. smith had only one losing season. he played a major role also in shaping the careers of michael jordan who in a statement said other than my parents, no one had a bigger influence on my life than coach smith. he was more than a coach. he was my mentor my teacher, my second father. coach was always there for me whenever i needed him bd we and i loved him for it. >> i'm a kentucky fan because both my parents went to kentucky. drive me crazy because four corners. >> four corners. >> just run around. it was a brilliant move but also the reason why we have a shot clock. >> dean smith over his 36 seasons with carolina 95% graduation rate and one of the first coaches in the 1960s to integrate the acc. >> winningest coach in all time right, ncaa. >> he was when he retired. >> when he retired. what about the new york

knicks owner james dolan showing an ugly side after a critical e-mail became public. the fan claimed to be a knicks supporter for 60 years criticized dolan for some of his decisions made as team owner. a few grammatical errors. dolan fired back quote, i'm just guessing but i'll bet your life is a mess and you are a hateful mess. in fact, i'll bet you are a negative force in everyone who comes in contact with you. you most likely have made your family miserable. dolan went on the write to the knicks fan, in the meanwhile, start rooting for the nets because the knicks don't want you. >> well, that is a good way to win back somebody. >> okay. coming up the new way president obama may have found -- found to bond with members of congress. well that's hopeful. also ahead, how one banking giant helped conceal the identities of weapons dealer tax evaders, dictators, and celebrities, helping them avoid

paying billions in taxes. we'll be right back.

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profits and businesses can be doing so well but the workers don't share in that prosperity? >> this has been a three decade long trend. some has to do with technology and into irsetters being him eliminated eliminated. travel agent, bank teller, middle management. a lot has to do with globalization. the rest of the world catching up. post world war ii we had enormous structural advantages because our competitors had been devastated by war. we also made investments that put us ahead of the curb whether education or infrastructure. those vans went away vamt workers increasingly had less leverage because of changes in labor laws. combine all that stuff and it's put workers in tougher positions. >> with us now from washington editor in chief of vox.com and policy analyst ezra klein.

ezra, you were talking to him about the issues i think most that look at all the issues from isis to taxes to the budget deficit. you tackle really the toughest question for a politician to answer. the president seemed to give a multi-layered response. talk about it. >> he's a very very smart guy. that was what we wanted to try to draw out of him, actually. i think one of the things that obama sometimes gets criticized for is sounding like a professor. but what we wanted to do and i did the interview along with my colleague, was to go in and get him to speak like a professor because something that has struck me about his presidency is that it's very theory driven. when you talk to folks behind the scenes and talk with him, there is sort of deep set of ideas about how the world is working, whether they're wrong or whether they're right. animated to policies. >> don't you think the president doesn't think he has an opportunity to actually play

professor or to actually explain things in full. he's constantly frustrate bid the sound bite culture we live in and say yes, we had higher wages in the '50s and '60s and '70s because there were fewer workers in the '50s, '60s, and 'swept' sents. we had a labor shortage. it's a generational challenge and generational issue. he seems frustrated that he doesn't have the time or doesn't feel like the americans have the attention span to having real conversation about this. >> i don't think he thinks that complicated answers about these topics are treated well by the media culture we have which isn't to say i think it's about any -- it's just hard to get these kind of long answers out. it's one reason we wanted to try to if you look at the full interview, it's an no tated. a lot of background information around it for people who want to figure out what it is that he's talking about because sometimes he gets shorthanded.

if you look at that clip we did a fair amount of animation on the video as well. the stuff is tricky if you're coming to it cold. i think one way that if we can kind of focus on the more evergreen, big issues we can make it a little bit more digestible to folks is to offer that information that we offer to it when we're doing it all day but a lot of folks who have jobs and lives and into politics a little bit less intensely can't. >> let's keep ezra here and bring in mike allen from washington, chief white house correspondent for politico. good morning. >> good morning. >> you've got a piece up this morning reporting president obama is looking for an effective way to bond with members of congress. something of course he's been criticized for over the last six years. what's he going to do? >> president obama is doing in year seven something that joe and others would have advised him to do in year one, and that is he's using this tremendous asset he has air force one. not only is it a place where he can spend hours at a time with members but they get a thrill out of it.

everybody gets a thrill out of air force one. the president who went the entire year of 2012 without having a single republican fly with him, partly they're doing, partly his doing, but now he's become a frequent flier with members of congress. both republicans and democrats. he's taken republicans to tennessee for his early -- for his community college an announcement. he took some out to nevada. he took some out to his state visit to india and saudi arabia. and is finding that it's a time that he can spend a lot of time with them. they say that he comes back to the cabin very frequentlynd we're told by a white house official this travel initiative comes from the president himself and his legislative liaison is in charge of it and they're going to keep it up. >> all right mike allen. thank you very much. i guess that's time well spent. you can watch ezra's full interview with president obama at vox.com. ezra thanks. still ahead, the growing

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around the world. but criticism is growing about the speech which takes place two weeks before israeli elections. vice president joe biden is among the latest democrats who will not attend the speech. his office says he will be out of the country. others skipping the address include president obama, secretary of state john kerry, and congressman james clyburn, the number three democrat in the house. >> what do you think? political impact of this what do you think? sglng i there's a chance it won't happen. >> you think netanyahu may not come? >> i think there's a chance he will look for a way to get out of it now. >> why? >> i think he's starting to get blowback at home. you saw michael orrin, the former u.s. ambassador from israel suggest he had to try to find of way to get out of it. no matter what people in israel think about president obama and relationship, everyone in israel realizes having a good relationship with the united states is crucial to security in israel. now in israel criticism of prime minister netanyahu for

jeopardizing the relationship and that is what was seen for a little while as a political play to look good is now having blowback for him. there's a lot of pressure for oim on all sides to pull out. >> i'm going to ask you a second what you think about netanyahu coming but the first thing i want to ask is what would you have thought if in january of 2007 nancy pelosi newly sworn in with a democratic majority had invited vladimir putin over to united states to speak to the house of representatives without talking to president bush? >> well, nancy pelosi did a lot of things without talking to president bush. you know she -- she was a vocal advocate against the war in iraq. she didn't support funding for the troops. she was a public adversary and she didn't ask bush's approval or permission or give him a heads up on many. important step on for roaneeign policy. this invitation was extend it to the wake of terrorist attack in

paris. and this moment he's coming over, i think what you read in the introduction was that he said he's not just coming as the leader of israel but as the spokesperson for all people. in a moment when our president can't even utter the word radical islamic extremism. it's an important moment for the leader of israel to address not just congress but the american public public. >> so you support bejamin netanyahu coming in. >> yes. we sat around the table every morning this summer and talked about how staunchly egypt and the ua and other countries stood with israel. this is a low point in u.s./israeli relations. >> of course it's an important event to hear from him and have him come here. that's not the question. the question is the politics of inviting him and who invited him and was it the right thing to do? >> i think sometimes the substance and the moment of what's going on in the world truchs the politics. i think this is one of them. >> i'm asking you, though do you think it was a smart thing

on boehner's part to invite him? >> absolutely. i think the politics of the white house and the secretary of state and democrats now snubbing the prime minister of israel are terrible for them. i think hillary clinton will have to answer for them if she's the democratic nominee. >> i personally -- i wish it could have happened a bit more smoothly. but if you're bejamin netanyahu and you are running a country and basically spokesman for jews worldwide that are getting slaughtered in the streets of paris, that are facing unprecedented antisemetic attacks in recent memory across not only paris but also in great britain, all across the world and you've got iran a country that has promised to get a nuclear weapon and then has promised to use the nuclear weapon to annihilate israel then i don't think anybody, the united states of america is in a position to judge a prime

minister of that country or people in that country for coming to the united states and explaining to the world, you have a president that is allowing the iranians to roll over him and run over him in negotiations. >> you guys are good at what you do. >> no. >> you and you. >> i believe it. >> i'm not trying to be good at what i do. >> joe, come on. a couple days ago you said it was a bad call on boehner's part to invite him. you know it was. >> when the leader walks arm in arm in the streets of paris with the israeli prime minister and america is not there you tell me we're not at low point? >> we are at a lack of leadership in the white house sglts i embarrassing. >> nicolle said the president can't even call radical islamic terrorism radical islamic terrorism. he doesn't show up in paris. he says isis is a jv team. time and time again -- >> he's talking about the crusades. we need them. >> instead of talking about how isis is evil he has to bring up

the crusades and go back 800 years. if i'm israel -- and by the way, i said this when republican presidents were in the white house and when democrats presidents were in the white house. i went listen to presidents constantly looking for noble peace prizes when their very existence is at stake and on the line. i wouldn't be quite so smug about mocking somebody as jews are being gunned down in the streets of paris and being attacked across europe. >> i wouldn't use that to evade the question. and the question is do you think it was a good call on boehner's part to invite him? >> the more this president shows his hand on what he thinks about middle east politics and the more chaos that we have in the world, the more i think yes, it was. that bejamin netanyahu, the people of israel and jews across the globe need to know that there's at least one country, one country that understands what they're going through, the antisemitism they

face every day and the fact that there is a country that has promised to get a nuclear bomb and wipe israel off the face of the eartha right now is negotiating with the united states to get that nuclear weapon that would allow them to wipe israel off the face of the earth. there are a lot of people out there that hate jews. tweet me. i know you're antisemitic. >> that's just low hanging fruit. >> no, it's not low hanging fruit. if you can't go to a kosher deli in paris, france, without being gunned down if you don't face antisemetic attacks in england, if you can't send your kids in france to a nursery school without them being shot dead but go ahead, be smug about it. >> i'm not being smug. i can't talk. >> you don't understand what jews are going through. you go ahead an be smug. >> i'm not. i think that you're evading the question. and it was a question that you answered last week. >> i couldn't have been any more blunt about it. >> okay. i think there should be a boycott on the part of

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i owe you an apology. >> you do. >> i said you were smug. i'm the one -- >> you said i was smug when i couldn't even get a word in edgewise. >> i'm apologizing to you. you weren't smug. you were just wrong. and so i apologize for saying that. you were sitting there though kind of with that look on your face and rolling your eyes like hi, i'm better than you because i was born to an important family and you were born a poor sharecropper's son. you did have that look. >> no i didn't. >> it was straight out of steve martin. >> like old times. >> you guys are just good at what you do with that political spin. >> you mean loving the state of

israel and not apologizing for being against antisemitism. maybe i'm looking at what barack obama is doing and it is just so -- so concerning to me. >> it's okay. i take your apology. thank you. >> thank you. coming up at the top of the hour, we have a lot of ground to cover. >> jordan is mad. 56 air strikes in three days. you know what? my source said don't screw with this king. and, man, they're proving it. the military is going absolutely crazy. plus, another massive winter storm under way making this a historic year for new england snowfalls. we'll go live to boston. and the memorable performances from last night's grammy awards including can jay west and rihanna and paul mccartney on stage today. >> kanyic what another bad joke? what did he do on the stage? >> he jumped up again. >> it was a joke. it was a joke. he was mocking himself.

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jumped on stage when a young taylor swift. explain to people what he did. >> so at the vmas taylor swift is getting up there, accepting her award. kanye west said i'm going to let you finish but -- >> beyonce. >> argue that beyonce should have won the award. >> oh, my goodness. >> rather than taylor swift. >> people still say i'm going to let you finish. >> last night. heilman, it's a great adam. >> he's had a little bit of a lull in his career and this record is really strong. >> i'm surprised. i'll excited. >> he won best rock album. okay, beck, got his award. con kanye did a bit for half a second. >> twefs not actually doing it. >> it's like a kindler, gentler kanye. >> did you see the grammys? >> yes. >> the kanye, rihanna, paul

mccartney, the first time they ever performed it live. >> let's so that at 8:30. >> fantastic. can we do it? >> kanye and rihanna, seeing her, she sounded fantastic on this song. incredible. >> so the song that won for best dance, do we have it? profess dance, what's the category? best dance song? do you know ratherby? >> i'm not a 13 years old. >> mika is stumping us on grammy trivia. >> anybody who has a girl under the age of 13 or 14. >> you know your kids' music. >> i couldn't have told you a single song five years ago and now every single song i know them all. >> you watch the grammys now because it's so pop heavy you watch it and go wow -- >> that's what makes beck win so great. there was like someone we all listened to. >> yes.

all right. let's start with news. jordan's onslaught against islamic state militants. the king said he was going get even, and he's working it. >> the country says it has carried out nearly five dozen air strikes since jordanian pilot was apparently burned alive. many of the targets include isis logistics sites and training camps. the leader of jordan's air force is promising to, quote, wipe them from the face of the earth. it comes as u.s. military advisers are training iraqi security forces for an offensive to reclaim mosul and fallujah. those efforts will likely involve risky urban airfare. nbc's kier simmons has the latest from jordan. >> reporter: jordan's air force says its bombing campaign is inflicting heavy isis. a massive fireball suggests an isis fuel ammunition 2ke7 pot was hit. he says he saw smoke as high as

his hairaircraft. the air force commander told me -- >> so far as we exceeded 20% damage of all -- overall objectives. >> reporter: they are flying 20 missions a day, he says but he rejects isis claims that a bomb from these jordan yan f-16s killed american hostage kayla mueller. >> we did not actually target any target within the vicinity where they claim kayla was held hostage. we were miles and miles away from where kayla was. >> reporter: u.s. forces including these two american f-22 fighters are providing support. and in beirut $25 million of american equipment including artillery and humvees were delivered today for the lebanese army. >> it's what our soldiers use. i know within a matter of days it's going to be what your brave soldiers are using in the battle to defeat terrorism and

extremism. >> reporter: jordan's leaders say their intensified campaign is the revenge of the execution of their pilot burned alive. >> it is clearly hurting them but it's not going to be enough to drive them out of the territory that they've taken. that is going to require complimentary ground forces. >> reporter: jet the jordanian air force commander vowed to wipe isis from the face of the earth. >> now to the latest details on the situation involving nbc's brian williams. there were a lot of developments over the weekend, so here is where things stand now. >> i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. >> reporter: brian williams will not be in the anchor chair this evening after a self-imposed suspension from nbc "nightly news" following his admission that he misled the public about his experiences covering the iraq war back in 2003. in a statement to staffers post weed online saturday williams

write, quote, in the midst of a career spent covering and consuming news it has become painfully a part to me that i am presently too much a part of the news, due to my actions. as managing editor of "nbc nightly news," i have decided to take myself off my daily broadcast for the next several days and lester holt has kindly agreed to sit in for me to allow us to adequately deal with this issue. upon my return i will continue my career-long effort to be worthy of the trust of those who place their trust in us. the hiatus follows a whirlwind six days for williams whose story of riding in a helicopter that was hit with rpg fire was exposed as fiction by the pilots who actually were on the damaged aircraft. williams' initial apology is also facing scrutiny by those who say it glossed over the fact that he repeated the story numerous times. >> i don't know that unbridled confidence came from. i've done some ridiculously

stupid things under that banner like being in a helicopter i had no business being in in iraq with rounds coming into the airframe. but i -- >> did you think you would die? >> briefly. sure, there have been probably a handful. yeah. but -- >> do you tell yourself that's the job? >> oh, absolutely. we were going to drop some bridge portions across the euphrates so the third infantry could cross on them. two of our four helicopters were hit, by ground fire including the one i was? >> no kidding. >> rpg and ak-47. >> reporter: nbc news president has informed the news division she has a team checking facts about williams' actions during his stay in iraq. but "the washington post," another news outlets, are also raising questions about stories told regarding his time covering hurricane katrina. maureen dowd used "the new york times" column yesterday to quote sources claiming that williams has a long history of inflating

his resume. and late last night, news broke that the "david letterman" appearance scheduled for later this week has now been canceled. and there is no word on when the most watched broadcast news anchor will return to his nightly news post. >> talk a little bit about this last hour. i don't think there's anything more to add at this point. >> no. let's turn now presidential politics and fresh polling out of new hampshire. a new bloomberg politics college poll of the potential gop field has jeb bush leading the way in new hampshire with 16% of likely voters. rand paul, scott walker chris christie trailed closely behind with in other candidates cracking double digits. when it comes to favorability in new hampshire rand paul jumps into the top spot with 63% rating. meanwhile, in iowa the"the washington post" costa reports like in other polls setting up

what he says is likely to be one of the most competitive campaigns there in recent memory. on the democratic side hillary clinton continues to show an overwhelming lead in new hampshire with 56% support. elizabeth warren is a distant second with 15%. she's not running as far as she says. clinton has been looking to hone her economic message for the middle class without alienating wealthy contributors. new york's working family's party is throwing its way behind senator warren though formally urging her to enter the presidential race. >> it's just so fascinating. you look at hillary clinton planning her presidential campaign, and they are. they are sitting, going, okay,how do we appeal to the middle class without offending other really really rich people that we know like and want to contribute to our campaign. it seems to me that is a terrible place to begin a campaign. >> i'm not sure that's whaktexactly what they're doing. she served as secretary of

state. awkward to be in the position defending hillary clinton, but i'm curious, mika, if your enthusiasm about elizabeth warren is because you're for her or against hillary? >> not against hillary. i do -- i am -- i have been asking repeatedly over the past year what her message is. even after her book came out you really -- i still don't feel something instifrktive inside of her moving her to do this because she really thinks she can do this better for the american people than anybody. and then you look at someone like elizabeth warren who i have admired from the get-go since she started putting together the white house consumer protection bureau and then got kicked out and ran for senate herself to try and have an impact. this is a woman whose story and really backs up what her message is and her body of work is in sync with what her message is. >> it seems, john to me, at least, that hillary clinton has this mass save campaign

operation that's being put together and they are this massive machine in saefshearch of a purpose. they don't know exactly where they're going to go. but if there are good economic rating on friday on friday afternoon she will say i support barack obama's policies. >> no doubt hillary clinton needs to find her way towards a compelling ration nalt for candidacy. there's no doubt that there is a huge universe of clinton accolades potential advisers who are all trying to get in on the action. having said all that i'll give you a number from this bloomberg politics poll that we just did in new hampshire. among likely democratic primary voter, hillary clinton fave, unfave. favorable, 89 unfavorable 9. she is whatever else you want to say about her, she is extraordinarily popular among the people who pick who the democratic nominee is going to be. right now whatever flaws she's had, stumbles on the book store scheming is going on that seems unappealing to people in the

democratic nominating electorate she is popular. you would kill to have 89/9 fave/unfave in new hampshire. >> i think jeb bush is going through this a. when you are not a sitting governor, when you are not a sitting senator, when you have not voted on -- elizabeth warren is in the senate. she was on the front lines of the bailout debates. scott walker is a sitting governor. i think these have more to do with the challenges will of being out of the day-to-day legislating game. >> right. >> you know she didn't vote on all these things that will be an issue. not not primary but in the general. she's going through that too. laid out his economic policies that the detroit economic club last week because he wasn't in the senate he wasn't a sitting governor. >> jeb's been out of the arena for a decade now. >> out of the governing and legislative arena. he's been focusing on education and nbc universal. he's been active in policy debates the same way hillary as sitting of secretary of state. >> he's not been that act i. he's been making money and show

up here and there. but jeb's been really under the radar for a decade now. >> these are the meeting you have to have because these are the questions you want to know when they sit here. >> on dodd fringe what would you position frb onhave been on dodd frank. >> not what do you believe. >> look at the contrast though between those two polls. first the republicans, you have this crowded field. it's going to be a bare knuckle brawl in iowa new hampshire, down to south carolina. then you look at the democratic side. joe biden if hillary runs is not going to run. senator warren has given an indication she's not going to run. bernie sanders, jim webb martin o'malley. does hillary clinton just sit there on a debate stage by herself or with one or two other people who are not serious contenders and wait for a republican nominee until august? >> there's such a kind of disconnect and, i don't know i don't want to overstate certainly we are very low on the

totem pole in terms of importance but when you look at mitt romney or scott walker or elizabeth warren or rand paul i know over the past six months any number of those people have reached out to you or me or both of us or come up to us and tried to talk to us about what they believe in have made an attempt to reach out to us. i've made a lot of attempts to reach hillary clinton and i can't get over the moat. it just seems -- >> very republican posture with the media. maybe that's why i feel her. she's very republican -- her organization, it's like watching a republican campaign right? opaque. they're distrutful of the media. maybe that's why i feel her. but, yes -- >> they've always been that way. >> they've always been that way. but i'm just saying that's fine that's your thing and, as your right to heilman, i think people will go crazy when she declares her candidacy, which she's going to do. but i'm just naming other

candidates on both sides of the aisle who believe in things and want to talk about these things because they believe in them. >> if you're hillary clinton you've got to ask the question -- >> it makes me wonder. >> -- i've got an 89% approval rating among the democrats, why do i want to talk to anybody? why do i want to go on a show like this one where you have to -- where you have to actually talk about the issues demwits that read a teleprompter and ask three questions they were told to ask last night. there are candidates intelligent enough to handle that and not say stupid things. there are a lot of candidates on the republican side as well that are just scared to be in this sort of setting. so why would she come to -- it's just like out of the debates, why would hillary clinton debate jim webb let's say jim webb ends up being the other person. why would she do it? i don't think she will. >> i think she's going to be -- she will be very hard pressed, i think, to -- if there are democratic candidates rupping

against her they're announced candidates martin o'malley jib webb bernie sanders, hard for her to say she's will not debate. she will have to debate a couple of times. i think she needs to because the last thing you're going the want, in addition to that she will have to i think she wants to because the last thing you h want is not to debate. if she didn't have any debates, april of 2008 to the general election of 2016 between the last time she was on the debate stage. she's got to get out there. >> come on and talk about an issue. if we called elizabeth warren and said do you want to talk about the rise in cost in college and what should be done she would do it because she cares about it. >> lu elizabeth warren doesn't have 89% approval rating and isn't on her way to being the democratic nominee. >> i think that precludes you from caring. >> no it has people around you saying, be safe be insulated, keep people away until you need them. >> she has a big enough megaphone. she put out tweet last week

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jacob. >> reporter: the only thing more popular than "american sniper" is the real life sequel now playing out at the courthouse. >> i just want to see all three families finally get the answers they deserve. >> reporter: navy s.e.a.l. chris kyle became america's deadliest sniper while serving in iraq. the movie days based on his auto biography is now the top grossing war movie of all time. in 2012 kyle talked to lester holt about his mission at home helping struggling veterans. >> some people are definitely coming back with ptsd and i want to try to figure out everything i can do possibly to help those guys. >> reporter: one of those guys was former marine eddie ray routh. two years ago kyle and friend took him shooting at the gun range. only routh returned home. routh's sister called 911. >> he says he killed two guys. they went out to the shooting range. like he's all crazy. he's psychotic. >> reporter: defense attorneys for routh declined to comment

but said he will plead not guilty by reason of insanity. in december kyle's widow told nbc news she doesn't believe post traumatic stress explains what happened. >> the guys i know that have ptsd still love their families and they struggle with other things. they don't turn around and kill somebody else. >> what the jury is going to have to decide after the judge instructs them on the law is if this person has post traumatic stress disorder is it of such an egregious nature that it caused this person to be insane at the time of the offense? >> reporter: routh's attorney tried to move in delay the trial arguing kyle is simply too popular in the small county. defense attorney not involved in the case says the movie is problematic for the defense. >> i think the publicity and particularly the portrayal of chris kyle as an american hero makes it especially hard for the defence to get a fair jury. >> reporter: the debate heating

up here in stephenville. >> people in this town are good people and i think they will give him justice. >> you don't think he will get a fair trial? >> i really don't, but who knows. >> that was nbc's jacob rascone reporting. terrible end to chris kyle's story. survives four tours in iraq only to come home and be shot dead allegedly by a guy who he was trying to help. >> and the question is can he get a fair trial. the answer is -- no. there's just no way he can get a fair trial right now. i don't know what they do. i don't know where they go but they certainly -- i think they're going to have to delay the trial. i just -- i mean how do you put a trial out of a guy that is an american hero and it's the biggest war movie of all time more popular than "saving private ryan" and then say this is the guy that killed him while it is still in the midst of its run that makes it the most

popular american war movie of all time. you just can't do it. >> you have to be able to do it to find a jury where no one heard of chris kyle. that seems unlikely, especially in this town. moving on in 2013 democratic senator elizabeth warren harshly criticized a nearly $2 billion settlement with hsbc for money laundering. >> if you're caught with an ounce of cocaine, the chances are good you're going to go to jail. if it happens repeatedly you may go to jail for the rest of your life. but evidently if you launder nearly a billion dollars for drug cartels and violate our international sanctions, your company pays a fine and you go home and sleep in your own bed at night every single individual associated with this. i just -- i think that's fundamentally wrong. >> now the u.s. is sure to face more questions this week about its response to wrong doing at hsbc. that's because a massive trove of leaked bank files shows

hsbc's swiss banking unit helped criminals, businessmen, and other clients dodge taxes and hide millions of dollars in assets. the guardian reports that the u.s. had the leaked data in 2010. two years before its controversial settlement with hsbc. joining us now washington correspondent for "the guardian" paul lewis. i take it this sort of backs up what elizabeth warren was trying to say. >> i think it does. it raises more questions. elizabeth warren there, she was talking about hsbc doing business with mexican drug cartels and people who were breaching u.s. sanctions in places like cuba and. iran. now, what this leak shows and it's the biggest leak in banking history is the way in which hsbc's bank in switzerland was kol luting with some clients to help them hide assets overseas. i think what it says in the u.s. is the serious questions the department of justice, the irs, because we established they've had the data since 2010 and they

need to explain exactly what they've done and how much money they've recouped in back taxes and penalties. >> when you look at now there's being questions for the government in terms of what actions it took after it got all this information and leaked data that revealed all this. who are we talking about? are there certain members of the justice department or what other departments? who is going to be followed up with and questioned about this? >> i think it's a great question. if you look at what elizabeth warren was talking about in 2013 that was a huge settlement in which hsbc had to pay $2 billion. that was negotiated by loretta lynch, she's now obama's nominee to be attorney general. so i think there will be questions for her. why wasn't this data this evidence, this trail of evidence of tax evasion, both by clients but possibly knowledge as well by the bank itself why didn't that form part of the 2010 settlement? if the justice department, if loretta lynch, if the irs had

evidence of hsbc being involved in really quite serious tax evasion, then why not prosecute them? >> what would be the motive the not do anything about it if you had it in front of you, if loretta lynch had access to this information? >> that raises a larger question. kids found with, you know some pot and he goes to jail. and yet you have banks committing crimes or helping other people commit crimes and here we are, you know five six, seven years after the great collapse and nobody goes to jail for many of these massive wall street banks. why? why? >> i think it's a fair question. it's a question they've got to answer. what they said in the past is they're worried to some degree about clat call damage. you take down some of these big wall street iinstitutions. what does it do for the wider economy? what we would say is what is the collateral damage to allow them to do business in this way? republicans and democrats are always arguing about level of

tax people should be paying but what they all agree on is that people should pay the tax they owe. that's the law. if people break the law the question is should they be prosecuted. when they're not prosecuted i think lor rhett too lynch, the dodge doj to explain why. >> they put out a statement that reads, in the past, the swiss private banking industry operated very differently to the way it does today. this resulted in private banks, including hsbc's swiss private bank, having a number of clients that may not have been fully compliant with their applicable tax obligations. we acknowledge and are accountable for past compliance and control failures. how concerned is this bank with this story, paul? >> i think the bank is very concerned. you can see in that statement they're basically confessing, they're saying yeah you found the evidence and we admit, you know, this happened this tax evasion happened. and again, you know hsbc is in a difficult position. according to the justice department a sort of -- i'm going to be watching and i'm sure you are as well what

happens on capitol hill this week. are people called to the hill? are they asked the tough questions? do they answer those questions? >> paul lewis, thank you very much for being on your reporting. >> we have an important update. >> willie and i need to offer an apology and a correction. >> thanks to our eagle eyed viewers. >> kanye was not voccing. in fact, he went on -- >> last night? >> he went on the rant backstage last night. i just know the grammys. if they want real artists to keep coming back they need to stop playing with us. beck needs to respect artistry he should have given his award to beyonce. >> so in fact -- >> just to be clear, it wasn't a joke. he was jumping on the stage about to repeat the thing he had done with taylor swift a couple years ago. willie and i assumed the best. >> he's a tool. >> he is a total -- >> who is he? >> -- idiot. >> tool. married to -- >> who is kanye? >> kimye is the married couple.

>> kim kardashian? >> they're married. >> oh, god. >> i'm sorry. if you don't know who -- >> i know now. >> kanye west is an extraordinary artist. mind blowing artist. extraordinarily talented. i remember the first time i saw him i -- the only grammys i ever went to was in 2001 grammys. he came out. i had no idea who he was. he did "jesus walks" i called my son joey, okay, i don't know much about this dude holy cow, he's a mind blower. kind of like what i'm saying about taylor swift right now. he was a mind blower. >> musical genius. >> that said somebody needs to tell him to sit down and shut up when he's not singing. he just keeps making fun -- he keeps making a fool of himself. he keeps making a fool of himself. >> i love kanye west music. i have since his first album. i have since he was producing jay-z's music. >> extraordinary. >> but this -- >> this performance was

incredible but he's a tool. >> that was -- >> it is possible apparently to be both a genius musically and a tool personally. >> i can't wait to see more of that. >> the idea that beck -- >> oh, my god. >> that -- that beck is not an artist, that doesn't show his understanding of music. >> do you think he had been drinking or something? >> listen to beck'sed a bum and put it on after that and come talk to us. >> and beyonce is great and kanye is great. let's respects everybody. coming up richard haass, you're going love this. richard haass and i think he figured this out in the -- in 30 rock rest room. he has drawn up a plan to defeat isis. we're going to ask him about that plan and why he couldn't have just done it at the council in foreign relations when he's president when he comes -- richard doesn't handle these jokes. >> he's going to get very bent out of shape. now he's mad at you.

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want to fix a crisis in the middle east you need green pants like this. >> or red ones. >> or a really good piece in the "wall street journal." >> solve peace. >> if you're sitting there in your closet you're thinking mika, do i wear the green pants to solve this isis crisis or do i draft an op-ed for the "wall street journal," just go with the green pants. >> i have peggy noonan's "wall street journal." >> peg any noonangy writes, right now, what's important, mr. haass says, is to break their momentum, the region and the world see them as gaining ground both literally and figuratively. this draws support from those around them. it's important to break that to allow those who are waivering to see that isis is not inevitable if they are seen as inevitable it is self fulfilling. what to do? attacking isis from the air is necessary but not sufficient.

you need ground forces to seize areas isis holds. you need a ground pathologicaler in. that partner should be a multinational arab-led expen dictionary force, a force on the ground to take territory, it needs to be arab and it needs to be sunni, because you need to fight fire with fire. it's crucial. >> that is happens with king abdullah and jordan with the euae. let's face reality. if year going to see isis beaten back and driven out you're going to have partners with iran, you're going to have sadr and some of the worst element ngs shia in baghdad pushing back now, you're going to need help from the kurds as well. sunnis are probably only going to hand the western part of the country, aren't they? >> in iraq it's one dynamic. we have to try to find a way to reduce the role of the shia militias because that's part of the problem and the kurds are going to have to carry a lot of

the water. in syria -- >> but are we going to be fighting this shia militias who actually are pushing isis back right now but are we going to really be fighting the shia militia there as well as isis? >> i'm not suggesting we are. even thee they're making progress on the ground they're exacerbating the brit call problem. what they do is flight diffused that leads to the break up of iraq because the sunnis will never be comfortable there. real world is the -- right now the biggest issue is syria and that's where we need the eau and jordan and others not simply to provide aircraft which is well. you can't win this from the air. >> go intosyria, i richard, are they going in to help assad maintain power? >> no but for the time being he's going to remain in charge of what you might call the alawi

portion of syria. >> you talk to turkey and you obviously talk to other countries. assad is the problem and they don't want to help anybody in -- in syria so long as that helps keep assad in power. let me ask you to start -- >> one of the ways you avoid that joe, is you have a ground force other than assad who would benefit from the gains making from the air. at the moment if we push isis back, only assad is in a position to benefit. why would we want to do that? >> let me ask you this question. barack obama said assad must go a long long time ago. i'm going to make a statement. you say true or false. assad must go true or false? >> in the long run. it is not the priority now. we never should have said it when we said it. or if you are going to say it you've got the mean it and follow it up which we didn't do. but it is not our short-term priority. >> is it all safer with assad in place? >> no because he's one of the things that drives the dynamic.

but the goal is not simply to get him out. the goal has got to be to put something better in his place. one of the problems in the middle east. we keep trying to get people out, whether it's the assads or the gadhafis. we learned that bad situations get worse. >> we're not going to get assad out. assad is going nowhere. what do we do? do we push for a divided syria? >> absolutely. we accept the fact that he runs his chunk of syria and what we're doing is fighting for the larger sunni part of syria. >> all right. nicolle? >> i think isis now control or operates in enough mass 8 million people are living in territory controlled by isis. what is the central -- the single central flaw of the obama strategy and what is the one thing you would do to fix it? >> single biggest -- the biggest thing we would have is a ground partner. you can't win this -- >> who? >> that's why i si an arab expeditionary expeditionary. >> who? >> jordan, saudi arabia,

possibly turkey. >> start flying their missions. >> we would have to say to them what would it take to get you in, what is it we would have to provide in the way of intel, logistics, multinational. that has got to be the answer. plus, with turkey -- >> are any of them likely to do it though? >> that's why i said in the article that peggy wrote, i'm not saying this is easy. this is a long shot. i can't think of anything better. this isn't working what we're doing now. >> richard haass, thank you so much. >> if you will stay with us richard haass, coming up we want to talk to you about kanye west and long-term peace. >> that's not long shot. coming up "the new york times" has launched a major investigation into the dark money buying up new york city's most desirable reales state. you've got these people these foreigners with tons of money and you can't drive down a major street in new york city where they don't own it all! i told you they were coming to take over!

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i was warned about them foreigners. they're going to come over and take our country over. >> foreigners or ferners. >> the japanese bought pebble beach. when that happened people freaked out. 1989 it's going to be the end of the world. >> real estate in new york. >> here with us right now we've got "new york times" reporter louise story, great name for a reporter. she's looking for foreign buyers hiding money by purchasing real estate in new york city. in the first part of the series louise focus on one particular iconic building hiding behind the park of the time warner. the whatter jo i the of owners have taken steps to keep identity hidden registering condos in trusts limited liability companies or other

entities that shield their names by piercing the secrecy of more than 200 shell companies. man, you can go on talking about this. so many other buildings. you have a graphic of all the buildings. i remember driving past the plaza and somebody telling me you know they were talking about the lights were always dark there because nobody lives there because they're all russian or chinese that have bought this property in new york as an investment. >> i know a lot of people in real estate say that condos have sort of become safe deposit boxes. you know not places that all these owners actually live. and that raises a lot of questions about what's happening. >> like what kind of questions? >> one of the things we focused on was the secrecy here. you know when you think of secrecy you normally think of the cayman islands or british virgin islands but it's gotten

secret in new york and it's the same thing in l.a. and other high end markets like miami. so you don't know who the buyers are in many, many cases. >> why is it just starting to happen now? obviously why do we care? we care because it makes living in new york which is already too expensive, even more -- even more difficult and now impossible. so when did this start, why did this start? >> well, by looking at this one complex, the time warner complex, we were able to see that a change over time. this is a building that came on to the market after september 11th attacks and it's or iconic building on central park. >> extraordinary. >> we were able to see that in the beginning only about a third of the purchasers used corporate entities that masked their identities. and now it's gone up significantly. last year it was over 80% of them. >> wow. >> so you have countries where people nicolle, where people aren't sure how their economy is going. so they go ahead and pay $100 million for a piece of property here, even if they only make $75

million back they get that money out and think get it in america outside of their country, as richard haass told me before. it's -- it is a money laundering before it is a money laundering story. >> i got the alert from my phone this weekend. opened it. started reading it. my husband said what is it? i said we will never own anything in new york city unless i can find a shell company to buy me one. yeah, it is that and then you just look at a two-income family in new york. >> they can't live here. >> to have a place that they own. >> can't live here. can't own. totally daunting. >> are they doing anything illegal? >> yes. >> there's lots of different reasons people use shell companies. for inheritances but it effect it's really secretive. s hard to even check out where the money comes from. this is a real challenge with the real estate industry. >> fascinating. >> i think the story is totally

fascinating as a new yorker but still ask the question why do we care about the secrecy? in the sense they're paying taxes. the taxes are getting paid and there's rich people all over the world who would come here especially new york real estate -- >> what are the bad questions? >> new york real estate is a great investment. why do we care about the secrecy? what's hiding that we should care about? >> it goes back to jeffersonian united states always had public property records. that's going away. they were there so people were accountable about who owns what. it's just a big, big change in our country. >> and raises questions. read the story. louise' story. great have you on the show. still ahead on "morning joe," the story of the 26-year-old woman who traveled to one of the most dangerous parts of the world putting her life on the line to help those in need and until last week no one knew that kayla mueller has been held hostage by isis since

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you know mika i think it's time. >> listen, it's time for what. >> i think it's time. >> tell me. >> i think it's time for your hero. >> what? >> i think it's time for the woman that you have posters all over your room. >> what are you talking about? >> and you named your cat after -- and that you -- you have the stickers on all of your cars and on your buick and your vw. >> i think i know what you're getting at but i don't know why you're starting with this. >> no. i think it's time for elizabeth warren to run. >> i do too. okay. good. >> no. you were just talking about it before. i think it's time for her to run. >> i think a lot of other people think it's time for her to run too. >> we have a lot to talk about today. obviously what's going on with isis jordan stepping up vowing revenge, saying they're going to destroy isis. a sort of leadership that we haven't seen in quite some time. new polls are out in iowa. >> uh-huh. >> we of course for us the

very sad brian williams saga we'll get to but i am curious, what you think about, about elizabeth warren quickly? because there's just more talk about her being ready to go and hillary still sitting around with this remarkable war machine. >> yeah. >> and they can't figure out -- they're trying to figure out what hillary clinton stands for. they're having meetings to figure out what hillary clinton stands for. they're paying tons and tons of money to figure out what she believes. >> well, i think the problem is like picking issues. what will work. what's going to get in the pocket of winning an election and you feel that's what these meeting are for. >> trying to figure out what hillary clinton believes which is remarkable, because elizabeth warren knows what she believes. >> right. >> you look at the fact that the rich are getting richer. the poor are getting poorer. you look at the fact that income disparity is bigger than its ever been. working class americans are falling behind on wages. more believe their children will not do as well as they are doing. >> uh-huh. >> for the first time ever in

these pollings billionaires are paying 14% tax rates. >> uh-huh. >> their secretaries are paying 28% tax rates. this is a time. you need to understand, that these times don't come along very often. you know? john heilemann and i could tell you, baseball fan that he is and -- i mean, you hung out in chicago for a while. right? >> sure did. >> the chicago cubs win the world series in 1907 and 1908 and you know they're thinking we're going to anyone 1909 too. it's the last time the chicago cubs won the world series. 1908? got a friend? he had a ring? he was going give it to his girlfriend who he loved madly. he goes to dinner decides -- you know time's not right. basically says, i'm going to get back to you, honey. she goes out crying. leaves him. 25 years later, the guy still is

walking around like a zombie. >> what? >> he's sad. his time passed. he had his time. >> moment passed. >> the moment passed. the moment also could -- i'm serious -- could pass for elizabeth warren. >> ah. i see the parallel. took me a while. >> you see blue skies you run to it. no, he wasn't hillary. >> he was elizabeth and the cubs are hillary? they're elizabeth. >> they're all elizabeth. >> i'm sorry. baseball is hard for me they're all elizabeth. i got it. >> stay with me. >> one more. >> you think -- >> yeah? >> you're going to get another chance. >> right. >> you think everything's okay. >> elizabeth. right. >> you think sometimes that tomorrow's another day but tomorrow never comes. politics, you know as well as everybody else tomorrow sometimes doesn't come and this is her chance. the sky will never be bluer. jfk said when there's blue sky in politics you run to it. she can't wait four years. hey, if she's going to run, she needs to run now.

are you with me now? >> i got you. >> i'm with you. >> i thought the guy was hillary and the cubs were -- >> i got it. >> that was the aardvark. by the way the walrus. tell us who the walrus was? >> i'm the walrus. >> the walrus was paul. >> walruseses freak me out. >> here's another clue for y'all. the walrus was paul i. thought you were the walrus? >> what? >> this is strange. we're going to start with jordan's onslaught against islamic state militants. the country carried out nearly five dozen air strikes since the jordanian pilot was burned alive. >> many targets include isis logistic sites and training camps. the leader of jordan the air force promising to "wipe them from the face of the earth." it comes as u.s. military advisers are training u.s. iraqi forces for an offensive to reclaim mosul and fallujah likely involving risky urban

warfare. inexclusive interview on "meet the press," john kerry is confident the u.s. has the upper hand against isis. >> are we actually winning and our goal of diminishing vaenchd inging eventually destroys isis? >> i think we are. and my evidence is in the facts of what is happening. we have taken out a significant proportion of the top leadership of isis. their command and control facilities have been attacked. interrupting their command and control. they no longer can communicate the way they as openly. they no longer travel in convoys the way they as openly. we have said since the beginning, this is a long-term operation, not a short-term one, but we believe everything including the governing process in iraq itself is moving in the right direction. >> meanwhile the parents of an

american female aid worker who was kidnapped by isis militants are holding out hope that she's still alive. islamic state militants on friday said that kayla mueller was killed during one of jordan's air strikes in syria, but u.s. officials say there's no evidence to support those claims. and jordan says the air strikes were miles away from where kayla was being held. she was kidnapped 18 months ago when she left a hospital run by doctors without borders. that's the aid group. until friday her family asked news organizations not to report her name citing safety concerns. foreign policy reports that kayla's family was opposed to a ricky military mission to rescue her, preferring negotiation talks instead leading to the u.s. rejecting proposals before they reached president obama. >> let's go now to very latest on the dangers and wintry conditions along several northeastern states, and this happens in myself how every monday. every sunday night is a

celebration. >> why? >> kids in my house every sunday night have a celebration because they find out they don't have to go to school. on monday that's happened three weeks in a row. >> the fourth winter storm in three weeks. >> who would have ever guessed that when we moved to nova scotia two years ago? >> one to two feet of snow in areas including boston where the mayor warned they are "running out of space to put it." >> these storms we're getting, it's unprecedented. we've never seen this type of snow here in boston any other time in the history of our city and there are discussion there's could be more snow at the end of the week. we're focused on one storm at a time and working to make sure we can clear the snow out. >> joining us from boston the weather channel's jim cantore. jim? >> he's right. look at the five day seven day, and closing in on 309-day

snowfall record more snow in boston than ever. removing 400 tons an hour they still have no room at the snow yards to put the snow. this is getting into one of those situations where you know everybody's going have to get back to the old traditional snow shoes. maybe some horse, buggy -- it's just -- we can't clear the streets and get the snow off the roads. this is the eighth day boston city schools cancelled classes. eighth day. notice in the last most in the last 20 years. once we get into the nine-ten range, already cancelled for tomorrow. we have to take away days from spring breaks because they're already going to june 30th and cannot go into july because of a contract with teachers. >> come on. >> that's not worth it. >> going to school through june 30th? >> no. >> that's unbelievable. >> the kids! all right. we're outraged shocked and stunned. stay warm out there jim, thank

you. >> i don't understand like yeah yankees do school because, you know -- we live in upstate new york. you go to school like 7:30. get out at like 3:30, and then we would get out of -- for summer vacation like june the 27th. i went down to florida, man. catholic high school pensacola high school. go in at 8:30 out at 1:45. everybody's going to the peemplgts out at 1:45? >> wow. >> and then school ends like may 10th. you're just like this until after labor day. >> no. you went back early august. they make up for it. they go back too early. >> they do now. not when i was there. >> school started but you weren't there. >> the longest lunch. again, because i would go off-campus. go to morrison's. >> does everybody know there's such thing as snowyard? am i just ignorant? did you flow were snow yards?

place where is they -- snow yards? >> i'm from california. i presume this is just stuff everyone else knows and i don't know. >> sounds like a normal thing. there are snow yards in big cities? >> across the city? if you live there? >> i guess in boston they do. now to the latest details on the situation involving nbc's brian williams. there were a lot of developments over the weekend. here's where things stand now. >> i made a mistake in recalling the events of 12 years ago. >> brian williams will not be in the anchor chair this evening after a self-imposed suspension from "nbc nightly news" following his admission he misled the public about his experiences covering the iraq war back in 2003. in a statement to staffers posted online saturday williams writes, "in the midst of a career spent covering and consuming news it has become painfully apparent to me that i am presently too much a part of the news due to my actions. as managing editor of "nbc

nightly news" i have decided to take myself off my daily broadcast for the next several days and lester holt has kindly agreed to sit in for me to allow us to adequately deal with this issue. upon my return i will continue my career-long effort to be worthy of the trust of those who place their trust in us." the hiatus follows a whirlwind six days for williams whose story of riding in a helicopter that was hit with rpg fire was exposed as fiction by the pilots who actually were on the damaged aircraft. williams initial apology is also facing scrutiny by those who say it glossed over the fact he repeated the story numerous times. >> and i don't know where that unbridled confidence came from and i've done some ridiculously stupid things under that banner like being in a helicopter i had no business being in in iraq with rounds coming into the airframe, but i -- i also -- >> did you think you would die? >> briefly. sure.

there have been -- probably more than -- >> a handful of times? >> yeah. >> do you tell yourself that's the job? >> oh absolutely. >> we were going to drop some bridge portions across the euphrates so the third infantry could cross on them. two of our healths hit by ground fire including the one i was in. >> no kidding? >> nbc news president informed the news division she has a team checking facts about williams' actions during his stay in iraq. but "the washington post," another news outlets, and others, are raising questions about stories told regarding his time coving hurricane katrina. maureen doud quoted sources that williams has a long history of inflating his resume and last last night news broke the david letterman appearance scheduled for later this week is now cancelled. and there is no word on when the most watched broadcast news anchor will return to his

"nightly news" post. all right. what do you think? >> well it's -- it's really tough for us, as a friend of ours who is also in this business. very well known anchor says he would rather eat dirt than have to talk about this. i mean brian -- just -- just so viewers know when i say when there are politicians that i know and i'm personal friends whip i say it. brian's not only a colleague, brian's a friend. he's a friend of our family. brian is not only a friend of our family, he is also our neighbor. we literally live just around the corner from each other, and when we moved to town he showed and his family showed extraordinarily -- extraordinary kindness to our son and daughter, and there is been

nothing but extraordinarily remarkable, kind giving people to us in a way that i know will shock you, not everybody in this industry is, especially when you reach the level and the height that brian did. i'm just hopeful because i can't be objective here, i'm hopeful that when all of the madness on twitter and all of the madness online and all of the madness that's going on on investigations that need to be going on, we're not saying they don't need to be going on but when the fury dies down and when we get through the storm and the decision is made to judge whats brian williams future should be that that decision will be based on the entirety of his career and not on one or two or three mistakes. bad mistakes yes. they were bad mistakes and

guess what? >> he would say that. >> guess what? he says that. we all make bad mistakes. i just -- you know one of the things -- one of the verses in the bible that always always makes me a little nervous before i start judging other people is the one that says that you will be judged and you will be given the mercy that you show others. i think we should all step back and ask whether we are so perfect that we want to be the ones to cast that first stone. let he who is without sin cast the first stone. i'm in no position to cast the first stone and quite frankly, in over a decade in this news business it is fair to say, looking straight into the camera i've seen a lot. i know a lot, and i know that there are very few people in this industry or in politics that could live by the standard of perfection.

cast the first stone? i would be careful. i think -- i think right now the entirety of everything that brian has done including the peabody awards that he won for his remarkable katrina coverage should be taken into affect and people should consider again, the totality of a man's life and not one or two mistakes. >> well i've been thinking about it all weekend, and talking about it with people, and kind of horrified by the pile-on i'm seeing out there. i guess it's part of the game and brian would know that too, but it's hard. and while -- as you point out, while these errors are very human, and none of us are above them i'm also well aware that brian williams is one of the few people on the face of the earth who is held to a different standard. and he knows that. i think this is hard to know if we can even be objective,

because we know brian, we like him and we respect him, and this is in our house, and it's very painful. something we were talking about last night on the phone, willie. >> yeah. and for all the reasons you said, and we should start as joe did by saying i can't account for and i certainly don't excuse any of the mistakes made the mistakes brian himself admitted to. all i can tell you is how he's treated me. how he's viewed inside this building. ten years ago when i was a producer on an msnbc show that nobody knew, brian took an interest in me encouraged me been a meanter in ways. a guy i've looked up to quite a bit. so again, he did what they he said what he did and i think when the facts come out people can judge him the way they want to judge him and have every right if he don't want to watch him any more, that's their right, but i agree we should look at the totality of the man, how he treats other people what kind of family man he is what he's done in the veteran

community. to a lot of veterans he's a hero in some ways. so it's difficult. it's a hard time for all of us, and no one feels worse right now than brian williams. >> and i think you have to put it in perspective, too. >> i know that. >> if he exaggerated, if he sort of puffed his chest out a little bit, news people do that. politicians do that. guys do that. we've all done that at times, and you have to ask the question, where was it done? was it done on "david letterman" or did he make a habit of doing it when reporting the news? obviously when he was reporting the news would make it much worse. and, you know i saw -- i saw somebody write yesterday, saying, a misstatement or an exaggeration about a helicopter is far less damning to the future of this country than the

reams of misinformation that were reported leading up to the iraq war. that got us into a decade-long war when a lot of reporters should have asked a lot tougher questions. >> yeah. >> and you know, i put myself right there, because i was -- that's when i first got into this business right at the top of the list. again, i think we all have done things that we regret. and i would dare say some people have done things in front of a camera, reporting, making mistakes, not following the story the way they should have followed the story, that probably led to a lot more pain and misery and suffering. than a misstatement or even a lie about where you were in iraq when were you there. anyway -- >> but to be clear, our business is predicated on integrity and telling the truth and completely trans transno one here is excusing what brian has done and alleged he's done we're just talking about the man right now. >> we're talking about the man, talking about the man, and

nobody has excused it. >> about five debates we could have out of this but i just don't think we can have them. no feel -- >> along that line, it's also tougher for brian and for any host, any broadcast news anchor, because you know they -- they read four, five minutes of news and toss to packages, and so much of what they're judged on is intangible. do you trust them? we're here three hours. we could screw up 12 times in the first hour and make up for it in hour two, hour three, and then -- but it is much, much tougher and you're exactly right, willie. nobody here is excusing what brian's done. we're just talking about as friends, that we just can't be as objective. >> still ahead on "morning joe" -- sam smith cleans up. >> man, he cleaned up. did you see that? >> he even said, i'm having a good night. yes. at the grammys, winning most of

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all right. it's 28 past the hour. time now to take a look at morning papers. the "new york times," president obama set to host china's president at the white house for an official state visit later this year. safer to do at the white house. >> yeah. it is. >> it would be the first for china's leader who visited the

u.s. as vice president four years ago and studied in iowa during the 1980s. the obama administration extended invitations to leaders of japan, indonesia and the white house has not announced when the chinese president will arrive arrive. from the bbc, militant fighters in colombia are appealing to the new miss universe to help in peace talks with the government. paulina vega on our show right? >> right. >> won the crown last month. had spoken in interviews about hoping to end the violence in her country. now the group known at s.p.a.r.k. is asking the pageant winner to fly to cuba for the negotiations. so far no response from miss universe about the invitation. >> willie told us because she was asking us this. where do you think the leverage is in these negotiations and willie and i both -- talking about it. right? >> right. as we do. >> as we always do. we have a consulting business on

the side. >> yea. uh-huh uh-huh. >> a lot of it had to do with consulting beauty queens. >> and the four runners up. >> well yeah. sometimes runners up. they got to be really pretty. but, anyway how to bring peace to the globe, and i think we got a chance with this one. >> it's important work that we're doing. >> i think it is important. >> okay. go to espn.com. sad news in the world of college basketball losing an icon passing of former north carolina head coach dean smith on saturday. he was 83 years old. the hall of famer won two national titles in his 36 seasons at carolina and led the u.s. men's team to olympic gold medal in 1976. smith only had one losing season. that was his first during tenure with the tar heels and played a major role in shaping the careers of michael jordan other than my parents no one had a bigger influence on my life than coach smith. more than a coach. he was my mentor teacher, my second father. coach was always there for me

whenever i needed him and i loved him for. >> you know i'm a kentucky fan. both of my parents went to kentucky and his team wom always drive me crazy, because -- four corners. just run around. it was -- brilliant move but butt also the reason now we have a shot clock. >> made the shot clock. and dean smith over his 36 seasons in carolina 95% graduation rate and one of the first coaches in the 1960s to integrate the acc. >> winningest coach in all-time. right? ncaa? >> he was when he retired. >> okay. up next a 26-year-old girl travels to one of the most dangerous parts of the world putting her life on the line to help those in need, and yet until last week no one knew that she's been held hostage by isis since august of 2013. her story is next.

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welcome back. isis claimed last week that a young, american woman held hostage bip the terrorist group was killed in an air raid by jordanian forces. with those reports came the identity of the young aid worker whose story has been kept secret by the u.s. government and media

outlets. her name kayla mueller. >> i am in solidarity with the syrian people. i reject the brutality and killing that the syrian authorities are committing against the syrian people. >> reporter: at just 26 years old, kayla mule her already devoted many years of her life providing confer to those afflicted by war and famine. comfort. she left her home in prescott arizona, after graduating from college, not just to see the world, but to change it. >> what put her over there in syria was not some whimsical, you know save the whales, bottom of the ninth inning gut. this was part of a life plan for her. >> reporter: already helped less fortunate in india and israel even becoming an au pair to learn french to do humanitarian work in africa. in august of 2013 leaving a doctors without borders hospital in syria headed for turkey but before she made it to the bus station, she was abducted.

it would be nearly a year before her parents received proof that their daughter was still alive. >> we've been praying and talking about isis but, you know doing it in very careful ways in regards to kayla's situation. >> reporter: her parents stayed silent pleading with the international press and the prescott community to keep their daughter's name out of the newspapers, and keep her alive. her father reportedly sold his auto repair business to focus on her safe return. there was even an attempt to rescue kayla, but when u.s. special forces arrived, she and three other captives were gone and on friday, the world finally learned who kayla mueller was. >> u.s. and jordanian officials are cautioning tonight against those isis claims that the only american woman held by the terror group has been killed in syria. >> obviously, we're learning as much as we can as quickly as we can about ms. mueller's

situation. >> reporter: kayla's parents still hope she somehow alive and for those she inspired from arizona to aleppo her legacy of bringing hope to the hopeless lives on. so many choose to remember her not for what was done to her but for what she did for others. >> just a delightful young lady and fun, easy to be with. soft spoken. we just pray for her family and pray for her soffity and we realize that there's at least a little bit of hope in terms of her, you know surviving. >> joining us now from phoenix, reporter for the associated press, brian scoloff following the family here in the u.s. how have that kept this a secret for so long? >> you can imagine how to you cherrous that's been. family friends say it was just -- at the demand of their captors. her captors. so they followed every order that they received from them and one of which was not to discuss it publicly and somehow

the family convinced media around the world to keep her name quiet. in fact the newspaper, the student newspaper at northern arizona university had got on to the story a few weeks ago and realized this was, who this was, and they held back the story as well. >> incredible in this day in age, actually. i'm wondering two questions. first of all, do they feel at all let down by the government and why, on what grounds are they still hopeful? >> you know i mean i think at this point according to family friends and those who know them they're still hopeful, just like any parent would be hopeful. without confirmation or proof of death, they're just clinging to nip hope that -- any hope she may still be alive and this group released lies in the past a lot of propaganda. without any proof, nothing other than the things we've seen pictures of the burned-out building released her phone number and home address as sort of proof of death. at this point, u.s. officials and the family have received no

confirmation. again, as their daughter i believe they just want to pray and hope that she'll come home to them. >> do they feel let down by the government? i'd heard reports earlier they felt like the government could have done more? >> you know i can't answer that question at this point. they're not speaking out publicly. obviously some of the other forkes that have been involved in hostage situations have said remarks to that effect. this family at themoment has not said anything like that. we'll see if there's confirmation at some point what they have to say. >> brian, thank you very much. joining us now army veteran and founder and ceo of iraq and afghanistan veterans of america, paul ryecough. good to have you. >> good morning. >> couple of things. i'm wondering big picture of this issue, i know she's not working in the military, but does it raise kind of the questions again surrounding women in the military as it pertains especially to hostagetaking and the risk there? >> it's a reality our women in the military have faced over a

decade now. on the front lines, wounded and killed and on the front lines. maybe shocking to the american public but not the women who serve and serve heroically. >> a different risk for a woman than a man. joe, you served on the armed services committee. was there talk in congress and what can you share about the discussions about women in combat? >> that debate paul knows, has been raging for quite some time and debates time and time again. one of the greatest fears given when you get beyond the argument that maybe women might show men down on the front lines, or all of these more -- let's just say controversial arguments, had to do with the fact that there was a concern, if you put women on the front lines, there was a risk of them being captured a risk of horrific things being done to them, like iciss doinge isis is doing right now. just like this young women, a lot of young women decided to go

into the military and said thanks, you don't have to be patronizeing to me i want to serve my country and do what's right and in this case obviously her need to serve other people trumped any fear she might have about her personal safety. >> paul big picture the rise of isis what is the contention among veterans and those still serving in terms of this is still so many years later now it almost seems like a complete setback? after all this loss? >> 4,500 lives, countless casualties you take care of and follow every day. obviously suicide and yet looks like the situation's worse than in early march? >> it's heartbreaking and very emotional. lost friends there, bled died. and actually we're still in combat right now. i think that's -- it's important for our community to remind us. there are folks in iraq right now. folks conducting air strikes this weekend. our american troops are actively engaged in combat despite what the rhetoric says out of

washington, they are actively involved in combat and at risk every single day. >> talk about something positive that's happening. a silver lining. there's going to be a signing ceremony, finally, on a bill that's very important to you. >> the clay hunt supds prevention act passed unanimously and word the president will have a signing ceremony at the white house thursday. clay's mother will be there. it's a real sign of what grass roots activism the veterans community and real people pow ker do. this was driven by the community. washington supported us a ton so did the president in the end but this was about the veterans community driving one our number one priority fighty suicide. >> pushing hard for a very long time. we've been talking to you, and have been really struck by your commitment to this. and thank god republicans and democrats decided to come together on something. >> this is the first public bill the president's going to sign and clay's mother deserves all the credit, susan. the hero that led the fight and she'll be up there with the president.

>> paul, thank you so much. >> thank you for your work. we love you. now to business brian sullivan. treasury secretary jack lew spoke. what's he saying about the economy? hearing an seeing good headlines. >> yeah. jack lew saying the u.s. economy indeed turned a corner. good news. to take the next step guys what we need to see a wage growth. wages for many people have not risen in more than a decade. we've recovered as much as we can maybe, but to take that next step we sort of do that next leg up we're going to have to see wages grow across the spectrum here. we did get a little bit of wage growth in the last data we had. 12 cents an hour. again, we need to rise that more and so jack le swchltw is saying to take that next step wages up across the board pretty much for

everybody. how we do that is going to be the question. also guys keep an eye on the stock market today. looks shaky on a monday morning. again i know we've talked about greece and its hard to connect the dots but, guys alan greenspan this weekend thinks greece will leave the eurozone. talking tough. will germany back down? frill and economic game of chicken of the likes we've not seen in generations. >> brian, thank you. i saw you tweeted joe over the weekend the "wall street journal" headline. positive sign for the economy, talking about wages going up. more people jumping back in. >> i did. >> of course the jobs number friday. >> a couple great things. the one from the "wall street journal." certainly not a bastion of liberalism and not a supporter of barack obama's policy saying actually the economy is turning around and a lot of experts are believing over the next 12 months working-class americans that have just had the hell beaten out of them with this economy, they may get a little bit of hope. you may be getting more people into the work force. that's going to of course supply demand.

more people in the workforce, that drives up slowly but surely wages. that's good news. you also had "new york times" also reporting about this this weekend. cross our fingers. a lot of people would have snippy tweets back going, ah well the president this republicans that. you know what? there are millions of us that are just glad when there's good news about jobs and wages for working-class americans who are struggling, count me in that group. i'm telling you tell you what they need a break. they need some help and let's hope in 2015 the experts are right. it's coming. still ahead, the best moments and biggest surprises from last night's grammy awards. spotify, a representative our guest next. and getting a cup of coffee. do you need a cup of coffee? >> doesn't happen here. >> i'm not giving you one. >> you asked to polish your louboutins. >> that's different. why they're likely do it and why they shouldn't. we'll be right back. >> i feel so good.

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joining us now to break down the grammys, the trends expert for spotify shannon cook. first, joe wants to interrupt me i. do. so i read this article, mika i thought you'd really this weekend, in the "new york times." madam ceo get me a coffee. >> yes. >> sheryl sandberg and adam grant wrote this on women doing office housework. i want to read. harvard professor observed women do the lion's share of "office house work." someone has to take note. someone has to find the -- find professional women, business law and science, still expected to bring cupcakes answer phones, take notes. these activities are harmful and in part one of the professors said, the person taking diligent notes in the meeting almost never marks the killer point, and that takes up 12 on average, 12% of women's time in

the workforce. >> first of all, shannon, do you see that happening? i do. >> i don't bring cupcakes. >> i don't bring cupcakes. well, i brought brownies. but i actually think women -- i think this puts us in a really uncomfortable position when you talk about knowing your value. trying to sort of establish what your valley is at a job. a lot of things can help you get to know people and are nice things to do why is it just naturally, having an office party, hey -- >> that's the problem. >> why don't they go to the dude? >> women are asked to do things more. >> could you bring the cupcakes more? sal, can you find the place where we'll go? >> here are the awkward position we're put in. if we point out the guys in the room aren't asked to do the same things it's seen as complaining. >> a troublemaker. >> at the same time if you don't and just -- i think it is an issue. >> sometimes, though -- >> do you know the dude it would be least likely to be asked to do anything around the office? >> who? >> kanye west.

>> that's true. >> sorry i interrupted you. believe that? what were you going to say? >> let's just move right on to kanye. did you like that segue? >> clever. >> let's go to the night of kanye west at the grammys. take a look. [ applause ] >> i need some help. come back. >> at the grammys, if they want real air forces to keep coming back they need to stop playing with us. we ain't going to play with them no more. beyonce video a "flawless" beck needs to respect industry and have given his award to beyonce i. thought he was joking. >> yeah. i know. >> people like the fact he was being playful. wend up there. looked like he was joking and then came out, said that later. i wasn't joking. i'm annoyed beck won this award. >> sorry, if you're talking

about artists go back to odelay and take it through this album. when it comes to alt rock, indy rock, there aren't a lot of artists in a -- beck not like he's doing disco. he's a bon aphiifided artist. >> and we found a lot of listeners gravitated to spotify after the show to check him out. streams increased 500%. some people were remembering him, hadn't seen him for a while. going back and listening to older tracks. >> sam smith, huge. >> sam smith. yeah. had a great night. i think everybody predicted he'd have a great night. won four off the six awards nominated for. >> amazing. >> happy for him. >> like him.

>> and let's see. some of the best performances of night, which i think i know what my favorite is probably match joe's. there were others too. what did you like? >> i lie cia's performance. it was just so strange. we expected it would be strange. she faces the wall. you don't see her when she sings and kristen wiig rung around in a leotard making crazy facial expressions. i was fascinated. couldn't look away. that was great. >> and how about madonna? >> i thought she was good. her performance wasn't perfect. the choreography wasn't perfect. >> it wasn't. >> but she was having a good time and i liked seeing her have a good time rather than pos terring. >> i liked the clean bandit one. >> you're a fan of that song. work out to that song. >> i'm obsessed to that song. there's madonna. my daughter was horrified. like, make her stop mommy. make her stop please. >> i kind of feel that way. why was she saying that?

>> age-appropriate thing. she had more -- vivid things to say about it. but -- she didn't like it. and she's kind of the music aficionado of the house. >> what about -- >> see it going to break? sure we are. shannon cook. thank you so much. a lot of people streaming some of the artists they hadn't heard of before. >> absolutely. annie lennox saw a big spot. >> she's great. >> much much more ahead including what, if anything did we learn today? you pay your auto insurance premium every month on the dot. you're like the poster child for paying on time. and then one day you tap the bumper of a station wagon. no big deal... until your insurance company jacks up your rates. you freak out. what good is having insurance if you get punished for using it?

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welcome back to "morning joe." tyke time to talk about what we learned. >> i love this song. i run to it. >> do you, really? >> six miles of "rather be." >> you're down from nine miles to six miles? >> just six a couple time as week. >> do you really? that's not good. >> take as long time. >> sweating last night, reading jogging kills you. >> no it does not. >> so i learned today, we actually have a leader against the fight of isis it is king abdullah of jordan deciding

he'll step into the role and i think he'll have a lot of people following him. >> absolutely. i learned we agreed to disagree on netanyahu's trip and the invitation to bring him to address congress. >> will you go to that? >> no. and i think more democrats should boycott it and i think that i agree with you. that it was inappropriate of an invitation by boehner. glad you said that. last week. >> i don't remember saying that last week. >> i know. >> don't roll the tape. i may have done that. i've actually changed my mind. >> you've changed your mind? >> believe it or not, when the facts change i change my mind. >> sleaze. >> okay. tomorrow on the show -- the great eugene levy, kathkathleen. >> dog show. >> "the rundown" picks up after a quick break.

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