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isis two main problems an one potential answer. as we come on the air, president obama looked for support on two fronts. >> two issues this morning, russia's and ukraine and isil. germany and the united states remain determined in our purpose to destroy this barbaric organization. >> the president hosted angela merkel at the white house and a big focus was on building the plan to end the fighting in ukraine between we've and prorussian prorussians. and the u.s. may send humvees
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and tanks to ukraine. congress approved 350$350 million of aid but they fear our involvement could encourage a full-scale russian response. putin blames the west for sending supplies to help the rebels. they claim 50,000 are dead in ukraine and that is ten times of other estimates. they will try to broker a peace deal. and washington is trying to estimate the next move for isis after the death of kayla mueller. and jordan is not backing down from the bombing and they are determined to wipe them from the face of the earth. they expect a major iraqi ground invasion to try to take another iraqi sois.
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casey hunt is at the white house. and they say the only thing they understand is force. and so what about the president's meeting today with merkel. >> reporter: well the germans and the united states want to present a united front and the president emphasized that the president, quote, cannot stand idle and let the borders be drawn at the barrel of a gun. and where they do disagree is the defensive weapons and the president will send the defensive to the ukraine ifand merkel is reluctant to take that step. and if you remember, the german economy is tied to the russian economy and there were sanctions and whether the germans were willing to get on board there and they did. but the question going forward is whether or not the diplomatic efforts can succeed. and european leaders are set to
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meet this week to potentially broker a peace deal. but the russians there was a truce negotiated back in september. the president said bluntly today that the russians have ignored the deal and they have sent tanks and artillery and while he today would not draw a red line as to exactly what would trigger him to send in those weapons, he did say that the u.s. is going to be consistently re-evaluating the situation and potentially upping their military aassistance to the ukraine. >> kasie hunt at the white house for that. and to the front line of our battle against isis. jordan. keir simmons is at an air base outside of amman, jordan. >> this is one of the f-16s using to target isis. this is a 2,000 bomb they have been dropping on the isis targets that the secretary of state was talking about there. targeting fuel depots ammo depots targeting the isis
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fighters themselves. one military leader said here that he believes that these f-16s have managed to kill 7,000 isis fighters. so they do think here in jordan they are having an effect. we have been here for two days and seen many many flights take off, both jordanian and u.s. f-16s, also usf-22s coming in to land here and uae planes gathering. so this does appear to be increasingly incentive for the air battle against isis, if you like. while that is said, as i mentioned, in the end it may come down to ground forces. and that may well be down to the iraqis. it was the iraqi army that withdrew when isis pushed into mosul and into that part of iraq. so we are looking at potentially
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relying on that same army to take that territory back. >> keir simmons thank you for that. for more, daniel benjamin from the state department and director of the johns sloan dickey center for international understanding at the great dartmouth college. so the head of jordan's air force said they are out there making a difference they have run 56 bombing raids and they have isis leaders running scared scared, do you believe that? >> well i haven't seen bomb damage assessments but i'm sure they are making a difference and it is certainly a very positive thing that we have the jordanians going hard after the target and showing real regional leadership for this fight and that is critically important and with any luck that will have a big impact on the other countries involved in the coalition. >> and it overlaps with something kerry said on "meet the press," the command control functions of the u.s. -- of isis
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are being degraded. >> we have taken out a significant portion of the top leadership of isis. their command and control facilities have been attacked interrupting their command and control. they can no longer communicate the way they were as openly and no longer travel in convoys the way they were as openly. they said since the beginning, this is a long-term operation not a short-term one. >> you just spoke to analyzing the results. what is the diplomatic strategy in the u.s. trying to say they have made the strides even as we see the terrible videos and other reports and claims of these murders from isis? >> the diplomatic strategy is to continue to boost coalition in the region and to continue to work especially with iraq to get their troops trained up and back in the field.
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some peshmerga are already fighting isis on a regular basis but it is really an iraqi army that needs to go in and do this. and of course the ultimate disposition of the battle will be on the ground. that is where the coalition has to win. >> mr. benjamin ironically a by product of the growth of isis seems to be a closer relationship between israel and egypt and jordan. there is a quote in the israeli newspaper that said the egyptian and jordanian moves implicitly strength the unit of the threatened between those two countries and israel. you basically now have a coalition of sunni countries have who gone forward in the bombing with jordan and you have shiite countries like iran uncomfortable with isis. is there a chance that unified opposition against isis could be something that strengthens israeli relations within the
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middle east with their arab neighbors? >> well israel has had very close relations with jordan for many years now. since the peace treaty in the late '90s and its relationship with egypt has been good sometimes up and down, since the camp david peace accords in 1979. it is also true that israel's relationship with the current egyptian government is probably the best it has ever had and that predated the takeover in mosul. there is a lot of common cause there, the israeli and egyptian military have been building bridges for many many years. so this is all headed in the same direction from those historical developments and no doubt the isis threat has accelerated that trend. certainly israel has a huge stake in the stability and security of jordan that is israel's eastern approach and so the israelis will do anything
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they can to help out their jordanian partners in this situation. >> and on a lot of people's minds is kayla mueller the 26-year-old aid worker held by isis. no confirmation on whether she is dead or alive but no one believes she was killed in east jordanian air-strikes. from your expertise and what we do know what is going through your mind about where she could be? do you still think she's alive? >> you know i think this is not a time to speculate. i think it is time for the u.s. and other coalition intelligence agencies to be doing their best to locate her and if possible to rescue her. and there is not much point in just coming up with a lot of scenarios otherwise. this is obviously not a place any one wants to be right now and it is a very serious situation but i think the appropriate thing to do is to focus our resources on ascertaining the truth. >> daniel benjamin of dartmouth college, thank you for your time. straight ahead the highest
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welcome back. the storm cycle has been a visual cycle for new england this year. here is a look at boston today, which will pick up two feet before this storm is over. and beantown has set a 30-day snowfall record, more than five feet since january 10th and it is still falling this afternoon. and national reporter adam riese is traveling through boston right now. and adam, where are they going to put all of the snow? >> reporter: abby, that is the big challenge today. where are they going to put all of this? because it is not going anywhere soon. they will start melting it and they are bringing in melters from out of state. they are trucking it to so-called snow farms. some of them 40 feet high and beginning to dump it on the beach as long the coastline. now this is the fourth storm in less than two weeks for boston. the governor declared a state of emergency yesterday. schools are closed today. schools closed tomorrow. the airport here, logan airport is operating on a limited basis.
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some 500 flights were canceled today. people are being asked to stay home, if you can. take a look at these snow banks aloss the side of this road. snow piling up, five and six feet high. add to that 12 inches of snow today and it is impossible to figure out how they will get out of this any time soon. roads are very difficult to navigate and narrow and slippery. and more than four inches of snow has fallen and he said you could take 90 of these and put them in gillette stadium 90 times an that is how much snow they had. maybe she should have bid for the winter olympics instead of the summer olympics. >> adam riese well said. stay safe in boston. and cycle chief meteorologist, i have to say, taking my dog out this morning, it was so slippery. i was sliding all over the place. >> the poor dogs are slipping all over the place.
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and of course, boston the snow is incredible. and what is more incredible is there are two more storms coming in the next seven days. this is storm four and we are looking at storm five and six. >> why are you doing that to boston? >> i don't know. they love their snow. but let's look at the maps. this is a winter they'll talk about generations in boston. breaking all sorts of records. and thursday another storm coming. and saturday into sunday there could be a strong nor'easter. an active weather pattern. let's look at the radar. nowhere near done in boston. the snow extending back toward western new york. here in new york city we are mainly over with the preems-- the precipitation right now. the snow continues along the mass pike and it will continue into the evening and a portion of the overnight. but it will wind down slowly. winter warnings through tomorrow and tomorrow night and in philadelphia with temperatures below freezing. here is the seven-day forecast.
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no break. you get to catch your breath tomorrow in boston with a high of 29 degrees. wednesday is a dry day and then the next snow moves in on thursday followed by a bitter blast of arctic air on friday with temperatures down to the single-digits at night. so a brutal winter pattern for new england. and here in new york we escape the snow this time. it looks like thursday that could be our chance for several inches of snow and getting ready for the coldest weather of the season so far here in new york city and along the northeast. overnight low temperatures near zero in midtown. could be well below zero in the suburbs. those are actual temperatures. windchills definitely below zero in the long haul. an this is the arctic air forecast. here earlier in the week in canada. follow this core of white, an arctic blast swinging in on thursday and friday right into the valentine's day weekend and then another one coming and we are tracking the potential for a nor'easter on saturday into sunday. we have several days to track that forecast, but we are in for
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a rough patch over the next few days. sorry for the bad news. >> raffi, you'll have to snuggle up for valentine's day. thank you for that report. and now to luke russert in d.c. for some politics. what is going on. >> in buffalo we call it boston gets labor day, they can stop whining there and the resilience that new yorkers deploy on a regular day. i hope those patriots fans phrase. >> whoa! >> the focus of the supreme court in same saex marriage. the justices refused a request from a conservative alabama chief justice to deny request and that includes alabama the 37th state to allow same-sex marriage. and let's bring in perry bacon for more. and neal young was singing about alabama years ago, what are you doing alabama, you got the rest of the union to help you along. what is going wrong?
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alabama seems to be joining the rest of the union and a majority of them allowing gay marriage to move forward. same-sex marriage going forward. so i pose a question to you. 7-2 ruling regarding alabama, scalia and clarence thomas oppose this. what was the legal basis for the decent and does this mean for the june decision that we assume will come from the supreme court. >> justice thomas decenting said the court is trying to create national gay marriage without doing some. he and scalia have been talking about this, but the court needs to do this and not just issue orders -- and not just issue orders the way they are doing now. but by june, there is not much of a question, we will have national gay marriage authorized by the supreme court in the next few months. that is clearly where things are headed. and so it is not a surprise it is happening in alabama and
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everywhere. and we are having a fight in alabama, with some counties saying we are going to issue licenses and some are saying they are not. and roy moore is saying they should not issue licensed to same-sex couples. >> i want to start with a comment. what is interesting about the decent is the supreme court isn't supposed to issue national rules. that is not its job, that is congress's job. supreme court decides the cases in controversy presented to it. but the day may come when the right case is presented. but the question is what you just mentioned, judge moore has a history of using high-profile standoffs and he is elected and that is how they do it down there but is there something by him using this like he did the ten commandments seemingly in defiance of what we are, a nation of laws where you have to follow federal orders? >> yeah, ari, the point on moore
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is really important. when you hear chief judge of a state, you think of someone in a robe and a legal scholar and a lawyer. roy moore is more of a political activist. he ran for governor and thought of running for president. he got tossed from this job before because he pushed so far to have a monument of the ten commanders in a building in alabama. so that is where the context comes in. i think this is an inappropriate rule of his power but i'm not surprised because he views himself as the vanguard in alabama and not necessarily a judge in the way we think of as a judge. >> there was an article in the times that was titled was do gays unsettle you. and he writes about being gay and he still looks around when he holds his partners hand and said he read polls that people want to support it but still
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feel unsettled about it. take a look at this poll from glad about a year ago it. said 80% believe more work is needed to change attitudes toward lbgt issues and 34% would be uncomfortable attending a wedding or some feel uncomfortable if a couple were holding hands and some are accepting of this but for some folks they haven't really accepted it internally yet. is this just part of the process as we try to evolve over time? >> i think you have to look at how fast this shift has happened. ten years ago we had a bunch of states say gay marriage was not legal and the majority of the voters in the states affirmed it and said we don't want gay marriage. so we've had this ten-year shift and when you look at the polling, people over 65 tend to be either not supportive or kind of uncomfortable with it still. so among people in the elderly part of the population, i'm not
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surprised with the poll. there is a chance that changes happen and they weren't ready for it. and to come back to alabama, we have not had a lot of polling in alabama, if you had a poll today you would see gay marriage support was not the majority in alabama, which is why you see some judges in that state not necessarily jumping on board to be supportive of gay marriage. >> perry macon thank you, as always. we have to presume the republicans will be happy with this because it removes this as an issue for the primary. that goes to the national same-sex marriage. thank you for sharing this news. take care. >> thanks, guys. if you thought forecasting the weather here was tough. try doing it in the deepest regions of the war on terror. we'll meet a team of elite army members doing that. special forces weathermen. you don't want to miss it. kellogg's frosted flakes. they're gr-r-reat!
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also in the news psych thl afternoon, reality star bruce jenner is devastated by the deadly crash that his suv was involved in over the weekend. two days later investigators still have a lot of questions. what caused the crash and who is to blame and will anyone ultimately face charges. >> well hallie jackson is in magibu with the latest. >> here in magibu the sheriff's department is looking for video and witnesses and for cell phone records of the drivers involved in the crash, including bruce jenner. he is out with a statement saying he will cooperate in every way possible with the police investigation. he calls what happened here a devastating tragedy and praying for the family of the victims. one woman was killed in this four-car pile-up and several others hospitalized on saturday. at this point police are asking questions which is why the first car had stopped here on the pacific coast highway in malibu.
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people say paparazzi were following jenner and tracking his moves for weeks now amid reports that he is transitioning into life as a woman. but police say they don't believe that the paparazzi triggered the crash involving mr. jenner. at this point, they are doing everything they can to pinpoint the cause and legal analysts say it is possible nobody could be charged in the crash if in fact, police find this was simply an accident. back to you guys. >> hallie jackson in malibu. and turning back to the fight against isis. while the u.s. was targeting the terrorists initially, it turns out they faced another enemy. mother nature. heavy storms stopped the initial strikes against the isis but since then better weather is leading to better intel. and special operations weathermen are more in demand than ever before. new shift web show greenhouse was provided within precedented access spending a year with one of the newest most elite elements of the special ops
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commandos who can also track cold fronts. >> we flew over the compound, opened up the back with an eight foot jump and threw out the backpacks and i had limited stuff to forecast with and i had ground forces going in and out to do the ground patrols and it was up to me to tell the general if he could get his patrols in or not. >> and i don't know if al qaeda or whoever has a weather officer, but a lot of the folks they use are fighting on their home soil so they know how to use the haze and the sunset to their advantage. they are not forecasters but they have a keen advantage of playing hide and seek to their advantage and they are using it. >> and here for the investigative unit thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> why are the weather units important to special ops? >> the weather matters always in
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the military but now the military is full of tiny technology robots and helicopters flying low to the earth an these things are extremely weather-sensitive. and you would think we live in an era where you just have a laser beam that scans the globe and tells you in an instant what the weather is. satellites can't do all of what we have to do and we have to train the guys to be dropped behind enemy lines and do an out-cast. what is the weather right this second and can we get a helicopter or a drone in and will it be safe. >> and talk about that training. how competitive is it to become a weather training. and we talk about a seal and hell week and doúa#rpuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuñáq=wc
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higher on the military equivalent of the s.a.t. than other people in special operations. it is on the same level as a code breaker. >> and i was curious after reading your piece and you spent time with them and are they mocked behind closed doors because they are just weather men or do they command the respect that seals would command amongst their colleagues? >> it is changing and the respect is coming. but right now they don't all of the time. if you join -- these guys attach to sale.e.a.l. units and special forces and they may wake up and they have a weather balloon and what does it look like over my girlfriend's house right now and they are mocked on that level.
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and it gets like that. do people ask them what the weather is going to be? >> always. in a joking kind of way. >> rain or shine tomorrow? >> and they have their iphones. >> i think they do it differently. let's show a bit of a guy talking about how he does his job. >> you are moving around in the mountains and these things start forming up and you look and say, hey, this is a potential impact and you start having to measure that out. is this going to hit us or not and if it does what are the things that i need to tell the boss. so hey, sir, it is going to rain, we shouldn't be in this gully. the boss isn't think that. he is thinking where is the enemy, how are we getting there and i look around and say there has been a lot of rain in the mountains up here and i'm concerned about a potential flash flood event. >> tony this is fascinating. how much power do they have to say don't go or you have to go right now. >> they are all of the power. the first missions brief is how is the weather. and that guy is we dropped into
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afghanistan ahead of everyone else and climbed on to a ledge on a mountain and did the weather. there was no satellite reading that works, the taliban had executed forecasters and we didn't know what was there and he dropped in and was called and what does it look like and he says conditions favorable and that is the war on terror right there. >> thank you for this report. >> so fascinating. >> i love it. it is interesting to see what the brave men and women are doing in uniform and this is a part of what we don't see. tony thank you for your time. >> thank you. up next a bully child span search. and meet a prominent mormon fighting for equality and it may very well cost him a place in the church.
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private school in switzerland where wh his roommate bullied him, the torture we've heard before but this bully is a remorseless manipulator and our guest has deeply bothered by it. and when he gets married, he said what happened to your bully and that sends him off on a year's long bully and he finds his child tormenter and the guy has grown up to become a con man and a convicted crimea. so our guest writes a book about the whole thing and a gripping narrative, a roller coaster journey that leads to an epic con frontation. it is called whippy boy, the 40 year search for my 12-year-old bully and i could not put it down. welcome and congratulations alan, it is a very interesting book. what did you want to get out of chasing down and finding your childhood bully? >> well the search changed and evolved. at first i wanted to kind of
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vengeance. that was the kid. but as i grew up i wanted to know why he was manipulative and i wanted to know if he had a sense of remorse. and i didn't know at the time i was looking for him if i would even find him. >> what happened to you as a young boy? what did they do? >> the laundry list is wrong, caesar, had an incredible name caesar aaugustus, he tied me up sand whipped me to the soundtrack of jesus christ the super star. you guys are -- you guys are too young to remember this -- >> slow down. they seize me about this. >> so in 1971 we were at this incredible boarding school and he tied me up and whipped me to this broadway musical and
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saturated broad with hot sauce and force med to eat them and the most atrocious thing was he swiped my father's swiss watch. and it was a boarding school and the divide between kids and adults was never crossed. when a friend of mine saw lord of the flies, he thought it was a documentary about our life at the school. >> can we ask, when you see this attention on what we call sensitivity training and getting more aware that bullying is a big problem and discriminatory bullying and what we see and pop stars weighing in on it and katy perry and taylor swift have songing about it and what do you think about that decades ago it was the way things are. >> it was boys will be boys. no longer. and i'm relieved that movie stars and pop singers and people with high-profiles are getting involved.
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what i find unexpected is that this torment of childhood, this sense of injustice carries with us long after we leave the playground. so people who have read whipping boy, these are people in their 30s, 40s, 50s, 60s, are resurrecting the childhood hurts and pains that are still with them. >> so you meet the guy, you talk to him you confront him on your memories and feelings and how much it hurts you. do you think that you adequately defended the 10-year-old you? >> not initially. the hardest thing i did, the hardest thing to do when i confronted caesar was to say you did a number on me. i could talk to him about his criminal activities the guy went away for 37 months for this outrageous swindle that puts dirty rotten scoundrels to shame. they rented out suites at the astoria and i could challenge him about the mafia loan shark he was dealing with but to look
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him in the eye and res you areect that 10-year-old kid, the scrawny jewish kid from new york that was punched and tormented, it was hard to do and i shouldn't have been surprised and i wasn't at the point he received this -- this confrontation, he said not me. >> right. and you are scared in these moments, right? >> i had to plug into my smartphone a little alert that said defend the 10-year-old. >> and all of this time it has changed your life forever and he could barely remember it? sadly, that is often the case. >> abby that is exactly right. the boy i could not forget couldn't remember me. and i should point out, that when whipping boy came out, among the many e-mails i received two were unbelievably poignant. guys in their 50s recalling the torment, the abuse, the merciful bullying from caesar.
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they had gotten in touch -- i thought i was alone. other folks on the receiving end of his abuse. >> caesar will never forget you now. allen, thank you for your time. it is a great book. straight ahead, face fairness and fireworks in the mormon church. omputing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do. sunday dinners at my house... it's a full day for me, and i love it. but when i started having back pain my sister had to come help. i don't like asking for help. i took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. so my daughter brought over some aleve. it's just two pills, all day! and now, i'm back! aleve. two pills. all day strong, all day long.
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mormon church and founder of the podcast mormon story left a career in broadcasting to education mormon church members. >> i became listening, learning and loving and i learned something more beautiful in that process. i started out thinking i would be of service to them. what i learned was that the benefit from the blessings of being an ally gave me far more than i could ever give them. >> and for that john could pay the ultimate price. last night in utah church leaders met to decide whether he should be ex communicated from the church in part for speaking out in favor of equality. and he's not alone in his evolution. a recent poll found residents of utah are split on marriage equality. and the numbers are still below the national average but they market a shift where more than the state of half of the people identify themselves as mormon and the question is now will
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outspoken mormons like john have to decide between religion and what they think is right. john is with us in the guest box. thank you for being with us. this is an emotional time for you. this is played out so publicly and for people who don't understand. if you are ex communicated, you are no longer a part of the church and can you not be with your family in heaven. and the biggest deal you can have as a church member. how do you feel today? >> i feel mixed. it is a shaming and a sad process to be put on trial by your church. my wife and i and my extended family weathered it very well. on the other hand i think we feel proud we are standing up for our convictions and standing up for the lbgt community and for women and also for the right of mormons to be able to speak freely and share their views. so in the end, we feel very very good and a little bit of
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relief because now the disciplinary council is over and we have to wait for the verdict. >> after all that you've been through, john do you still want to be mormon? >> mormonism is bigger than just the lds church. orthodox doesn't define judaism and there is nothing i can do to escape my mormonism, it will always be with me. and whether they want to keep people like me as a member that is a decision that the church is going to have to make. but as far as i'm concerned, i'm more mon through and through. >> john this emerges from things that you said on your mormon stories podcast. talk about why you wanted to do that podcast and what it was all about for you and what exactly are you being punished for here? >> so when i worked for microsoft about 15 years ago, i went through a faith crisis myself. during that time i was very depressed, i was alone, i felt like there was no support.
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so i started mormon stories as a way to facilitate a dialogue within the mormon community to allow people to share their feelings, their doubts and concerns and to support each other and ten years later i can just say that we have tens of thousands of listeners and people feel like mormon stories have helped save marriages and suicide and prevent divorce. so what was the second question? >> what exactly are you being punished for here? >> i believe if we go to the core for over a century the church has been able to control information to its members and control the conversation. and with the advent of the internet mormons are having conversations that they were uncomfortable having and learning things they weren't able to learn before and now the church leadership is nervous that conversations are having they are not comfortable with
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such as supporting lbgt mormons and feminism and the historical issues that the church faces. >> and it is interesting, because that about authority as it does about philosophy. do you feel you are being punished in that same way that you ought to be able to have a view about marriage that is distinct from the church? >> i feel i am being punished for speaking my conscious and for supporting others in speaking their conscious. i think excommunication is a 15th century solution to a 20th century problem. i don't think the church will be served when he will by seeking to censor their members.
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we're going to speak our conscious clearly and our doubts freely. utah leads the nation in suicides of men between ages 18 and 24. we have to speak out. it is just a matter of conscious to do so. >> john i'm a catholic. the catholic faith has its social and political differences play out publicly. that being said there's a tolerance within the catholic faith amongst different parishes parishes. i could find a liberal parish. how come that doesn't exist within the mormon culture?
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it seems like you have a large scale viewership that agrees what you have to say. >> yeah. it's a fantastic question. the answer to your question is mormonism is really in its adolescence. we've only been around for less than two centuries. a lot of the lessons that judaism and catholicism have learned took some time. how do we grow up and become strong and resilient enough to tolerate open discussion of doubts and disagreement and criticism? i have catholic friends and they can practice birth control and say they don't believe what the pope says in some cases. there is no priest calling them to an excommunication court. i think the lds church needs to
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there's a pack of lies you have been told about drugs. lies that led you to believe that drugs are the problem. that chemicals are so devilish that if you touch them your life will be ruined forever. in america, we have been on that plan since the 1930s. perhaps the reason why it hasn't
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worked is because drugs are not the central problem. in a fascinating new book called "chasing the screen," we're reminded that every day people in hospitals are given morphine are not addicts. 95% of those addicted in vietnam just stopped using. what separates the people who don't become addicts from those problem users? harvard writes a study on rats. rats were put into a large environment with wheels and balls and food and other rats and morphine. those rats used very little morphine. if they have full lives they want to be involved in they don't become addicts. what addicts have in common is horribly disturbed childhoods marked by horrible sexual
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assault or both. child abuse is as likely to cause drug addiction as obesity is to cause heart dszisease. what this means to me is that what addicts need is support to cure the pain isolation, and disaffection that led to them using. addiction is a disease of loneliness. most addicts have suffered a car crash of the soul and are trying to deal. if your environment is like the rat environment with lots of bonds and pleasurable things to do you will not be especially vulnerable to addiction. if you feel lonely and
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powerless, you likely will be. >> i think what there needs to be is love and compassion for everybody involved. addicts that get cleaned one day at a time generally speaking stop committing crimes. that's better for victims. it's better for addicts. it is better for society. >> drugs can be dangerous, but drug prohibition is more destructive. check out the new book "chasing the scream," one of the best books i have read about the war on drugs. that's it for "the cycle." a major civil rights showdown in the heart of the south. it is monday february 9th and this is "now." today the battle for equality returns to the confederacy. alabama became the 37th state in the union to allow same-sex marriages after the u.s. supreme
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court declined to block the state from issuing marriage licenses to gay couples. >> it is unbelievable. i think it is just now hitting us this is really going to happen. it's amazing. i'm really proud of alabama today. >> but marriage equality isn't coming to the heart of dixie without a fight. judges in small towns backed by local officials are openly defy defying a federal judge's ruling. roy moore ordered local judges not to issue marriage licenses to gay couples in the state. in 2003 he was removed from office for refusing to remove a monument of the