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and the guy is like sit down, i'm take care of it. thank you very much. that was fun going back in time to be on chris's show. thanks to you at home for staying with us for the next hour. okay. it has now been just over three days, a little more than 81 hours and there is still no clarity tonight on this story. we have some specific new information i want to convey to you right now. it started on friday afternoon. roughly noon eastern time. we heard on twitter and social media. we started to hear that a young learn woman had been killed while she was held as a hostage by a terrorist group. isis. it was known for some time. 26-year-old american aide worker kayla mueller was known to be being held, she was believed to be the last american being held by isis. they had her for about a year and a half. they kidnapped her in syria.

before friday not much was known about her fate. her parents and family wanted her name out of the news. they thought it would be a way to keep her safe. it was in part by decisions by isis. we had not heard much about her from them either. then on friday, isis made this announcement online that kayla mueller had been killed. the announcement that the last american hostage was dead came as a surprise for a few different reasons. for one thing, as weird and morbid as it is to say, isis has now killed so many of it's hostages that we have learned their basic routine for how they do things, last summer when they wanted it to be known they had hostages, they paraded them. they were made to appear in isis propaganda videos. they said we're going to kill

them unless you do x, y, and z. in each of those cases the american government refused to pay ransom or change policies when isis demanded it. and those american hostages were later executed by isis. last month they did the same thing with a pair of japanese hostages. they paraded the men in various propaganda videos. they gave the japanese government a deadline. they said if you don't do x, y, and z we will kill the hostages. and they did. this is a gruesome and barbaric stuff. but it's a well worn tactic. they have done it a lot now. in the case of kayla, there was no such routine. no propaganda video. there was no public deadlines or demands given. they just announced she was gone friday afternoon, that kayla was killed. they provided no evidence to prove it it beyond their own assertion.

they released her that i mean, said she was killed. they released a few still images of a building in syria where they said kayla mueller died. she said they died not at isis's hands but as a result of a u.s. coalition bombing raid. specifically conducted by jordanian pilots. so that is what they said, and that is what we were able to report as of friday. to be clear, then and still today, they have not offered any further evidence that this american young woman has been killed. and the claims that she was killed by a jordanian air strike don't square with what we know now about coalition air strikes in syria on friday which is when they say she died. isis says she was killed in an you are air strike friday in the syrian city of raqqa which is their base of operations in the country. jordan, today, says yeah, they have launched more than 50 combat operations in syria since last week, but they say they

have launched none near raqqa. it remains a mystery tonight as to whether this american aid worker was killed friday as isis says she was. her family in arizona is holding out hope kayla mueller is still alive. they say they have reached out to isis to try to confirm that. they're seeking a private communication from isis to kayla mueller's family. this is remarkable reporting tonight from andrea mitchell. >> reporter: her parents' vigil continues, waiting for her captors to also their last appeal. a fate that the family refuses to believe. >> the family right now is in a very fragile state as you can imagine. they're worried. >> reporter: her parents' desperate plea to the terrorists. you told us you treated her as your guest.

her safety and well-being is your responsibility. we ask you who are holding kayla to contact us privately, but they haven't. >> this time we ask you who are holding kayla to contact us privately. imagine what it takes for the family to do something like that. while kayla mueller's family and all of us await further word about her fate, we're getting new details about the u.s. mission that was attempted to rescue her and the other hostages last summer. u.s. special operations troops launched a rescue attempt inside syria last july. this was a risky helicopter led rescue mission to try to find the four american hostages that they were holding at that time. that mission, that raid, was unsuccessful, but we're learning there were certain clues the special opes clues found on the ground there that indicated the

hostages had recently been at that location. specifically they reportedly found strands of hair they believe to be from kayla mueller. they found those strands of hair where they believed it to be held and launched the raid looking for them. the hostages were moved before the special opes guys got there. details like that from that failed mission, those are now starting to leak. kayla mueller's fate is uncertain. isis meanwhile is moving ahead with their propaganda campaign today. they released a strange 12 minute propaganda video with another hostage, british photo journalist john cantley. they're using him as if he is an isis reporter. using him as a western journalism style mouthpiece in this case to show that life under isis rule is great. the latest video shows the hostage touring aleppo talking

about how great the isis fighters are there. how they don't fear the americans at all, just bizarre to hear this stuff being voiced under duress by john cantley. earlier today nbc's keir simmons offered this reporting from jordan jordan. they have been public about stepping up the air campaign after a jordanian pilot was burned alive by isis captors. today the commander of the jordan air force told nbc jordan has its sites set on the top leader of isis. abu bakkar al baghdadi. he doesn't appear often in public. his movements are well guardedment watch what the top commander said this morning. >> jordan's pilots preparing for a mission this time, still they

say the isis leader himself is in their sights. frightened? >> no doubt about it. >> we have assets always in the air for a target of opportunity. >> so that was this morning, and then -- this is interesting. who knows if these things are related. just a few hours after that video, new reports surfaced that he was wounded. seriously wounded in coalition air strikes in syria today. reports from reuters. they say he was wounded in air strikes in raqqa. they say they have no information to confirm that claim about whether or not he was hit today. of course there has been previous reports that he was wounded or killed. reports that turned out to be false.

still though, a girl can dream. here is a significant new wrinkle in this story. this u.s. led military campaign against isis has focused exclusively on syria and iraq. but today we learned that this war is apparently not contained to just syria and iraq. american military personnel launched about attack today in afghanistan. last month the washington post ran this story, meet the shadowy figure recruiting for the islamic state in afghanistan. he landed back in southern afghanistan, and he has been recruiting for isis. and that is weird, right? isis is in iraq and syria. afghanistan is not even contiguous with those countries, it's a long distance away.

but the "washington post" said that they were trying to make a go of it for isis in afghanistan. that report came out last month. january 13. today it is reported that guy, that commander was killed in afghanistan by an american drone. a one name guy who everyone said was key to isis's effort to get a foothold in a third country. key to the effort to gain a food hold in afghanistan. he was the one guy everyone was willing to say he is the out post of isis in afghanistan. he's recruiting heavily. apparently they got him. it was the afghan government that announced that today, but local officials in the area said the actual hit that killed the operative came from a drone. one tribal elder saying the isis commander and a few others had just returned from a livestock market where they had gone to preach and encourage

people to join isis and then he was shot down by a drone. it is known as the first military action taken against isis in afghanistan. more than 1,000 miles from the group's home territory in syria and iraq. so if you're keeping track at home, the u.s. is at war in iraq, syria, afghanistan as well. it is getting to be a big war, right? not to mention the special forces raids behind enemy lines. it is getting to be a big war,

this thing we're not calling a war, and without any input from the u.s. government that gets to declare when, where, and why. late last week we learned that congressional leaders were told by the white house to expect the white house to send over draft language for this war. for them to debate on and vote on authorizing this new war that we're uncomfortable calling a war. there is reporting that language could be heading to congress the day after tomorrow. obama to seek new authority for islamic state fight by wednesday we have not confirmed that it will be wednesday, but when it does happen, apparently that will mean that six months behind the news, congress will start to debate in a real way, in a binding way, what we're doing against isis. how that mission should be defined, constrained, and whether or not what we're doing for the last six months is working. joining us now is senator cane. great to have you here. thanks for your time.

>> great to be here. >> what is your understanding about what is about to happen on this subject, and is it what you have been advocating for? >> i started to talk in june of 2014 for congress to approve a mission against isil. we are in our seventh month of war, but i was hardened when the president and the state of the union said he would be seeking congressional authority. and i'm not sure of the day, but i think soon the white house will send a proposed mission statement for the war with and in the foreign relations committee in the senate we will be undertaking to question administration witnesses about the proposal, the limitations in the proposal, and we will add our own revisions.

and congress has not been doing what we're supposed to do, so i'm glad that day is arriving because there are many questions we need to ask. >> in terms of the scope of those questions, and what you think your committee and congress will be doing with the proposed language it seems clear to me as it does to you they were putting the cart before the horse to debate a war that's been under way for six months. >> absolutely. >> weirdly, is there a strategic upside for that? what we have been trying already. absolutely. you will see us doing that, and that question has many components. is there geographic limitations. should there be a sunset clause where the president would have to come back and seek a new thors after a certain period of time. is this just a mission against isil, or are the administrations

both wishing obama developed associated forces to enable ous to take the fight far beyond what congress initially intended. and then the most critical question is what does the white house say about the use of ground troops in this mission. our work thus far has been largely in waging a pretty significant air campaign to support troops from the region, and the president has said that we're not going to be using american ground troops in this particular war, but we need to dig into that. i suspect you will see that as a significant point of difference between members of congress who are overwhelmingly in support of military action against isil. but there are some differences on important details. >> when i imagine what these hearings are going to be like, and what this debate will be like, we know enough already to know that isis is not degraded

or under mined to a degree the u.s. will be comfortable in destabilizing the region. we know there already resistance in the face of the air strikes. i worry and wonder, and anticipate that because of that the debate is going to steer toward a bigger response than we have already got. it will steer toward ground troops that we have not thrown at the problem thus far. is that the inevitable course of this debate? >> it will certainly have people making that argument, rachel. i'm skeptical about it. i introduced a resolution. we ought to take military action isil. but do i think a weariness about ground troops makes sense. last week king abdullah of jordan was here sadly on the day when the jordanian pilot was burned. it was a very emotional meeting with him. he said look, this is not america's fight.

this is the region's fight against its own terrorism. we need your help but you have a right to expect that we will stand up against this regional terrorism, and if we do, you should help us. you can't carry the burden of the fight alonement we have been the party that's directed more than 80% of the air strikes. these medications in the region have a lot of weapons. i know because the u.s. sold them a lot of weapons. but other than jordan, can they're not really all in. the extremism is create ed in the region and it pose as more direct threat to them immediately than to the united states. we'll have a debate back and forth, but the point i'm making is this. the u.s. cannot police a region that does not want to police itself. we can help a region that will police itself, but how seriously are the countries in the region

taking this fight to isil. if they are not, that's going to be a significant question that we have to ask why and get good answers about. >> thank you, senator tim kaine, and thank you for being so loud about this issue. you were loud when other people weren't, and i think you gave other people courage to speak up on this subject. >> i'm going to keep being loud, rachel. >> well done. thank you. >> we have lots ahead tonight including total chaos in alabama today. also, we have bears and owls and ducks. seriously. moo. stay with us. then there's trusting your vehicle maintenance to ford service confidence. our expertise, technology, and high quality parts mean your peace of mind. now you can get the works, a multi-point inspection with a synthetic blend oil change tire rotation, brake inspection and more. $29.95 or less.

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moore said if alabama did that if alabama followed federal law and followed federal court orders on this matter, it would create confusion and disarray in the administration of the law. last night, judge roy moore acted to prevent that. he ordered the state's local family law judges to not perform same-sex marriages despite the federal ruling that said they had to. huh? thank you, judge moore in alabama. thanks to him, chaos rains. -- reigns. probate judges grappled with conflicting rulings. alabama live had a handy county by county map today showing what kind of marrying was happening in each county in alabama today. no confusion and disarray there. many judges decided not to issue any marriage licenses at all, gay or straight. marriage unavailable for anyone.

that is not confusing at all. for judges who did want to make their way through the conflicting rulings and instructions, alabama's attorney general issued this helpful statement. look at this. i advise probate judges to talk to their attorneys. that's right. so the judges should get lawyers. the judges should speak to their lawyers about with a they should do pt not confusing at all. it should be noted in the handful of green counties, there were a lot of very happy gay couples getting hitched in alabama. the reason they were able to get hitched is the u.s. supreme court denied the request to stay that ruling. everybody has been trying to read the tea leaves on the united states supreme court on the issue. they are set to rule this year on whether gay marriage is protected by the constitution. people are anticipating this could be a big national sweeping ruling within the next few months.

today with this decision in alabama, a lot of people saw the supreme court's decision to not block same-sex marriages from going forward. some people saw that as a sign that maybe the supreme court will rule favorably toward marriage equality. one of the people that seemed to think that today was justice clarence thomas. he doesn't like the idea but he thinks that will happen. joining me now is the author of the forth coming book "speak now: marriage equality on trial." great to see you. >> great to be here. >> clarence thomas did punditry this afternoon a. this was disdissent. he said alabama should have been granted their request to not implement marriage equality today. in so doing he basically said yeah, everybody is about to get gay married everywhere. >> he said this could be taken

as a sign, right? >> so is there reason to look at what happened between alabama and the supreme court today as something other than about alabama. about something that might happen nationally? >> i think there definitely is. the big difference is that the supreme court had granted review. so this is different from all of the other earlier cases because they have now granted review and arguments will be held in april. the decision will be made by june. so justice thomas has a point when he says this will be decided by june, so just wait awhile. >> leave the status quo in place because you know. >> exactly, and that is different from before it took place. >> obviously there is a lot of health care -- historical

resonance because it is alabama. we are not doing what the court says to do. we don't recognize your authority. what do you make of the legal chaos today with the chief justice of the supreme court, essentially directing lower court judges in the state to not follow federal law. making decisions, county by county, based on whatever they felt was the right thing to do, how do you explain that? >> i think it is extremely troubling. we saw it in california during the prop 8 litigation. they kicked it and said the california district rules is the law of the case. meaning the final and ultimate disposition of the case. there was squawking on the side about how only the parties in the court were bound. and this wouldn't bind california. they put a stop to that and the squawk died out. now that that squawking is someone like the justice of the supreme court, it has a

difference resonance, a troubling resonance with regard to the rule of law. i think what he's saying is it is perfectly fine to disobey a federal ruling by a district court judge so long as it doesn't comfort with his interpretation -- remember he's not a judge in the case -- with his interpretation of what the constitution requires. >> how do you think it will resolve in alabama? usually these things resolve when a federal court tells a state this is what you're allowed to do and not do today. but that chaos today, how does that get resolved? >> i think it will get resolved by suits against probate judges that refuse to issue the rulings. marriage for no one as opposed to marriage for everybody because they're trying to hedge themselves against claims that they are flouting the equal protection clause of the constitution. i think this will be -- those lawsuits will percolate.

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debunction junction. what's my function? first, true or false. today a was the day virginia governor bob macdonald was due for day one of his federal prison sentence. he was sentenced to two years. a judge later announced that governor mcdonald would be allowed to stay free on bond while he pursues his appeals to it didn't have to be day one in prison for him. it was also the day to learn the federal sentences recommendations for bob mcdonald's wife. today we got that news for mauren mcdonald about her recommended sentence. the news about her recommended sentence was fairly shocking. look. 18 years.

18 years. her husband governor bob mcdonald got two years. prosecutors are trying to lock her up for 18 years? that was the news today. is that true? or is that false? [ buzzer ] false, actually. prosecutors are not searching for a sentence of 18 years. that was literally just a typo i'm sure it was a terrifying typo for her. it originated in an a.p. case. because it was in a wire story that misinformation was replicateded the in politico salon and ap's story which shows up all around the internet. went rocketing around the news faster than a ferrari borrowed from a patron who wants a boost from the state. hello, governor. prosecutors are asking the court to sentence her to prison but not for 18 years. they're asking for 18 months.

it was literally a typo. she could be up for more time, but the governor's punishment turned out to be a fraction of what he could have gotten, and now the first lady looks to be on the same path to not much time in prison. that terrifying typo, one final gift from governor gifty in time for valentine's day. also, true or false. over the weekend, the website politico spent time poking fun at the current list of potential republican candidates for 2016. a line up of long shots crowds the republican field. it includes three politicians, george pataki who last won election when the flip phone was hot technology. is that true or is that false? is it true or false there are

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he just embarrassed himself. and chris christie tripped on his own tongue about whether kids should get their shots. he cancelled his media availability though he was in london and reporters followed him around while he snarled at them. london is like quick sand. step right up, sink right down. the next contender is wisconsin's governor scott walker. he will be in britain all week. maybe it will go great. maybe he will break the curse, but be on the lookout for how these things usually go. so scott walker in the u.k. today. chris christie off to iowa. rand paul still talking about vaccines, but jeb bush is rolling out his online jeb bush for president operation.

a bumpy start today. they made a big deal about hiring this guy as his new chief technology officer. shortly after making the announcement of that hire, andrew kaczynski noticed that guy's history disappear. new study confirms old belief. college art majors are sluts. or this one. most people don't know that halloween is german for night for girls with low self-esteem dress like sluts. or when i burp in the gym it's my way of saying i'm not gay. or there are 12 girls that will never amount to anything other than being some girl that slept with tiger woods. so he seems nice. where did you find him? that's who jeb bush just hired to be his chief technology officer after the big online rollout of the campaign.

he's law firming his running for -- launching his running for president website. we don't know exactly what kind of website it is, but we do know that it goes live tomorrow and will include the first chapter of his new e-book as well as e-mails from his time as florida governor. we also know that the new jeb bush for president website will not be at the web address jeb bush for president.com. not because he's shy about that at all. but because these gentlemen, this couple from oregon, they are the proud owners of jeb bush for president.com. and they have been since 2008. c.j. phillips and charlie rainwater are self-described high-tech bears. they've been together for 20 years. they're both in tech and disagree with bush's record and remarks on gay rights. and thanks to them, there is a handy place to talk about gay rights, which is jeb bush for president.com.

joining us now are the proud owners of that website. thank you for being here. i'm so happy to meet you. >> we're happy to be here. >> hi there. >> first of all, i feel like i've made a big deal out of the fact that you guys are bears and call yourselves high-tech bears. i mean it with as much affection as i can muster. i hope that hasn't bothered you at all. >> right back at you. >> all right are. >> not at all. >> very good. some day i will tell you about the gardening bears i met in texas. they said though lived where the gardens were so nice it was bear-sigh. >> we'd love to hear the story. >> bring it. >> so you guys were living in texas when you decided to buy this website in the first place. tell me about the decision. >> we were living in austin, which is an amazing city. and there was this weird convergence of the timing of the other bush getting out of office

and president obama coming back in. or coming in. and texas passing some really, pretty strict legislature that put us in a bind, right? and charlie and i were talking. and it's like, wouldn't it be funny if we could use jeb bush's name to educate people about lgbt issues. get on the internet. two minutes later we bought the domain for eight bucks. >> and have you been renewing it ever since? have you had the jeb bush folks try to buy it from you? or have they approached you at all? >> no, they haven't approached us. we haven't heard a word from them. every year it would come available. we were like, do we want to keep it? yeah, we need to do something about it. we would renew it and then we would procrastinate and not really do anything. >> i see that you've definitely started something already. it redirects to a page that's got discussions under way and explanation about why you bought it. do you have a bigger plan in mind? >> we'd really like to use it as a platform for letting people learn about this is what a real

lgbt couple faces, right? what we're really like. so many times in our past we've heard people ask us questions, because they don't know. they don't know another gay couple. they don't realize that two guys who look like us, big old bears, are a couple. this is a chance. this is what we want to use it for. >> since you guys have become known for owning this domain and this suddenly very, very relevant domain, have you had any notable reactions? what's happened since you guys have come out about this? >> we've had a lot of very nice, very supportive comments. some really good stuff. unfortunately, some of the worst negative comments were on an oregonian here in oregon. >> on the newspaper website. >> on the newspaper website. one comment was we look like two frail refugees from a nursing home. >> wow. that's some imagination. i can't even squint and come up with that.

anything but frail in every way. c.j. and charlie, you guys have been such good sports about this. your sort of genuine openness about what you're doing here and your feelings about it and everything have turned this into a story that i think you can keep it going as long as they can't pry this website away from you. i wish you guys the best of luck. >> well, even if they do eventually get it, we have a backup site. >> what's that? >> c.j. and charlie for president.com. >> naturally. i recommend an owl for a mascot, fellows. >> absolutely. swooping down on a jogger. >> good luck to you both. >> thank you, ma'am. >> i love my job. gave me an excuse to call these guys. i love this. i'll be right back. is computing to empower cancer researchers. it used to take two weeks to sequence and analyze a genome; with the microsoft cloud we can analyze 100 per day. whatever i can do to help compute a cure for cancer, that's what i'd like to do.

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one of them is that there's going to be a presidential veto, woo-hoo. we've only had two vetoes the whole obama presidency. both on technical matters nobody remembers. but the keystone bill is expected to pass. once this does this on wednesday, that heads to president obama's desk for his signature, which it will not get. veto coming. the white house has said for a long time that the president may or may not approve keystone once the reviews are done. they say it is his call not congress's. so he will do what they have never done. he will do a thing we have not been able to cover the whole time he's been president, veto on the way maybe this week. and almost as rare as a presidential veto is the blue moon of this congress actually making a new law. but that's about to happen too. iraq and afghanistan veterans of america and marine corporal clay hunt's family did the impossible. they moved mountains. they got congress to do something substantive. the clay hunt suicide prevention bill passed congress. it will be a law. the president will hold a

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