fired from their jobs for being gay. anybody still confused as to the question of what is the matter with kansas now has a definitive answer. sam brownback. good evening americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. >> i will not allow these terrorists to have a safe haven. >> tonight authorizing against isis. >> the president's point is he wants to dismantle and destroy isis. >> i believe this resolution can grow stronger with the thoughtful and dignified debate that this moment demands. this resolution strikes the necessary balance by giving us the flexibility we need for unforeseen circumstances. >> later, interrupting your regularly scheduled programming. >> brian williams has been

suspended without pay for six months. >> brian told us it's clear that he has become too much a part of the news. >> i am a terrible employee. >> stewart announced he will step down later this year. >> it is time for someone else to have that opportunity. >> plus fly me to the moon. >> we started thinking about living somewhere else. >> our next destination on this journey is the moon. >> you extend the commercial to the moon. >> a new era of space travel sets imaginations and big business soaring. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. president obama is officially asking congress to authorize military force against isis. if approved it will be the first time in 13 years congress has authorized military use of force. just moments ago, president obama laid out the details of his proposal. >> today my administration

submitted a draft resolution to congress to authorize the use of force against isil. this resolution reflects our core onbjective to destroy isil. a systemic campaign of air strikes in syria and support and training for local forces on the ground, including the moderate syrian opposition, preventing isil attacks in the region and beyond. >> the authorization also strengthens the iraqi government and provides humanitarian assistance to the region. the president's legislation would repeal the 2002 iraq war authorization. it would leave in place the 2001 war authorization to fight al qaeda and its affiliates. the draft specifically mentioned

mueller and three other americans killed by isis. the 2002 authorization was broad, open-ended and never expired. the main measure of the new authorization is to limit the use of ground troops against isis. president obama made this clear earlier today. >> the resolution we have submitted today does not call for the deployment of u.s. ground combat forces to iraq or syria. it is not the authorization of another ground war like afghanistan or iraq. the 2600 american troops in iraq today largely serve on bases. yes, they face the risk of service that comes in any environment, but they do not have a combat mission. the united states should not be dragged into another prolonged ground war in the middle east.

>> the authorization specifically says ground troops cannot be used in enduring offensive ground combat operations. it is carefully worded ground troops can still be used in other operations like rescue missions, intelligence collection, and special ops forces can be used against isis leaders. the authorization to fight isis will run out in three years. the president will be required to give an update to congress every six months. this will limit the next president's ability to engage a ground war against isis. meanwhile, republicans are already crying foul. john boehner speak of the house said this about the defense authorization earlier today. >> i believe that if we're going to authorize the use of military force, the president should have all the tools necessary to win the fight that we're in.

and so as you have heard me say over the last number of months i'm not sure if it is a strategy that's been outlined and if it will accomplish the mission that the president says he wants accomplished. >> on tuesday, senator john mccain said he would support a new authorization if it places no restrictions on troop movements. at this hour senators corker of tennessee and mccain are leading a discussion with lawmakers on the president's proposal. there's actually some conversation in republican circles that some won't support this. this is rather ironic. back in 2002 if the democratics had not supported the president, they would have been called not american. the president needs to support it until there is another commander and chief or let the

debate begin. the righties want more war, more troops. what's their plan other than to criticize the president. it closes any political loophole that might be out there to make sure this country is focused and on the same page going after isis. get your cell phones out. tonight's question -- is president obama doing the right thing by asking congress for a force authorization? text "a" for yes. text "b" for no. we'll bring you the results of the poll later on in the show. for more on this discussion tonight, let's go to a senior fellow at the center for american progress. good to have you with us tonight. >> nice to be with you. >> is this a strategy -- is this clearly focused? >> i think it is. that's why it is interesting as you mentioned speaker boehner doesn't like it because he doesn't like a strategy. he wants a different one.

the one thing i wish he would have done is repeal the 2001 authorization of military force because that's open-ended. he can use it or his successors can use it to really broaden the conflict and pretty much do anything they want. >> so the deployment of troops do i understand this that the president would have to go back to congress if he wants to deploy troops in a combat mission in iraq and syria against isis? >> according to this he would. in other words, if he wants to send like 150,000 troops to iraq like we did back in 2003 yes, he would. but there again, if the republicans get their way, he wouldn't because that would place no limits on what he could do. both speaker boehner and senator mccain don't want to place any limits. >> what's different? what makes yesterday's operation different from tomorrow's? >> well i think basically what the president is trying to say

is yes, he wants to fights isil but it is going to be a limited engagement. if you want to have massive ground forces, they're not going to come from the united states. they're going to have to come from the countries in the region. it is really their struggle. >> your impressions of what we're hearing from conservatives that this doesn't go far enough and they don't want to limit any ground troops or any kind of movement. >> they want a different strategy. but the fact of the matter is they are not the commander and chief. they don't control the white house. they can approve or disapprove. but if they put in the language that they want basically we're back to where we were with the 2001 aumf. there's boehner who is always complaining about obama overstepping being an imperial

president. he doesn't want to put any restrictions on. we said you should have had more authority rather than voting on this president's strategy. >> why do you think the president is doing this now, and is it important to get the republicans on record here? >> i think it is because when we go to war, which we are, i think it is important for the american people to be involved through their elected representatives. it would be great if we had a great debate about this. what can the president do how many forces do we have? i looked at the thing the president said. i wish there was some geographic limits on it. where do we stop? then back to this language about associated groups. where does that start? you and i could say we're going to start our own version of isil. i hope that those come out in the debates. >> do you think the executions of american hostages have had anything to do with this or

would this have happened anyway? >> i think the execution has gotten the american people to support it because back in august when we first went in there to rescue the american people said not iraq again. we don't want to do that. when they saw how horrible these people are by beheading the two americans and however they killed this poor young lady from arizona, i think they're going to want military action but not a big ground war. >> we really don't know if we're making a lot of progress, do we? we don't hear a whole lot of chest pounding on what we're doing to isis. these strikes continue but they don't seem to be hindsered too much in the way they're moving or acting. >> i disagree with the president where he says to degrade and defeat.

to defeat them you have to undermine their narrative. what they did to that jordanian pilot by burning him alive is going to send a message to that part of the world that this is not the message of islam. >> does the president believe this is the way to go to defeat isis or is he just making sure we don't make another mistake and put ground troops? obviously, conventional wisdom is we would be more successful than we're doing right now. am i wrong on that? it is an opinion point, but that's the argument that's going to come from conservatives. we'd get the job faster if we had troops on the ground getting after these folks. the question is is the president doing this because he really believes this is the proper strategy or is he doing it because americans don't have

an appetite for ground troops? >> number one, the iraqis don't want us to send ground troops again. been there, done that. at some point, you have to leave. if those countries are not willing to fight and die for their own, it will happen again. i think it is so important. we have to get the iraqi military ready because eventually we're going to leave. the same way in syria. you're going to have to have an army in there against assad and isis if you want to bring this to a conclusion, but it is not going to happen overnight because this is an ideology that keeps attracting people from around the world to go through. >> great to have you on "the ed show." appreciate your time tonight. remember to answer tonight's question there at the bottom of the screen. like us on facebook. thanks for that. coming up the changing media landscape.

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suspension, nbc news says it is internal review is ongoing. lester holt will continue to substitute anchor the nbc "nightly news." after 16 years, jon stewart announced he will be stepping down. >> it's been an absolute privilege. it's been the honor of my professional life and i thank you for watching it for hate watching it. whatever reason you were tuning in for, you get in this business with the idea that maybe you have a point of view and something to express and to receive feedback from that is the greatest feeling i can ask for and i thank you. >> he will remain at the helm of "the daily show" until later this year. quote, he will always been a part of the comedy central family. joining me tonight bill carter

and comedian and cocreator of "the daily show" liz winstead. what was your reaction when you heard this? >> i wasn't totally shocked. i think jon has been laying out the possibility for quite awhile. late night is usually like the end of someone's career. they start and finish doing that because there's nothing else you can do after late night. the format brilliantly create here by our guest is really a brilliant format. >> liz, did you have any idea that stewart would be as impactful as he has been? >> you know you never -- if i were to say yes, you should throw me off the show. i think knowing jon and knowing that he has been a voracious

consumer of news since 1990 he would be able to take the framework that i set up and make it his own. the thing that he did that is astoundingly wonderful for the franchise is he worked as hard on his own material as he did on shaping the correspondents and the material so that he was preparing the show for a legacy as much as he was preparing himself to leave. >> will there be another jon stewart? i used to watch johnny carson thinking nobody will ever do late night again. >> i don't think you want another jon stewart. what you want to do is he gave us john oliver. we watch john oliver sit in that chair and see him do a john oliver version. >> and he created stephen

colbert. >> did you ever expect bill carter that people would view jon stewart as a news guy? well he's not a bser at all. i'm going to get it straight from him. >> especially young viewers, they turn to him. he gave them information along with the comedy but he also had a point of view. he was the best editorial page cartoonist that we have right now. >> do you think he was surprised by that the way it evolved and the way he was viewed by people as a news course? >> i think jon is not being dishonest in saying we're a comedy show first. he really believes that. the things people put on him, that's not of his making. he does what he does. he brilliantly exposes hypocrisy through humor. if they're putting that much

pressure on him to be a newsman, it says more about the news. >> he said said i'm a comedian. he would do interviews that were truly news making. if you got on the wrong side of him, you didn't want to be skewered. >> was that part of the genre that he would do things that other people couldn't do and he could come through with the hard question and make you look stupid at times? >> absolutely. i think jon brought an absolutely unique take on this whole idea of what you can do with news on television. i do. but i think it was also real information. i found out things on that show all the time. they were fantastic at research. they would find a clip of

somebody saying something that you wouldn't believe. they were great at that. that's a form of real journalism. >> what you want to do with your new host is make sure that you have somebody who has such a voracious curiosity for information. when you're in a room and you're looking for that kernel it is important that every single person has a bit of look there. i remember that guy. i remember that story. you really want that. >> in creating this liz, did you think that there would be a real appetite for this? did you think that it would evolve into the machine that it is? i mean how did you envision this show when it started and when you were creating it and to where it is today? >> in the creating of it part of it was i had been really watching the media with the

first gulf war. you forget it was a different media landscape back then. there was only one cable channel. i think there was like 20 news magazines that were doing all that kind of scary, your mattress what you don't know might kill you and local if it leads, it bleeds stories. our format was based on the existing media that was. so we really satirized the format that way. i don't think i ever thought that there would be three cable channels in the course of the same year that we launched and that we would be looking at so much horrible ways to fill time. going on the poop cruise for 24 hours. that stuff was the bread and butter. you put jon at the helm and then he followed the trajectory of the media so brilliantly and

then added his spin. i just literally don't know how you find that person who is so dedicated, so spot on, and also has the confidence to make the right choices to get the show up every night. it is not just a funny person. it is a person who has a whole bunch of character traits that you need to have in place. >> a real leader. >> bill where do you think it goes from here? >> i think they're going to work very hard to find a replacement. i think jon has timed this in a way that whoever comes in will get full crack at the next presidential election which is a smart move. there is also news to satirize in that format. this is the franchise for the comedy central network now. "south park" is a great show and was actually on before your show before, wasn't it? >> huh-uh. >> that's on one night a week. this is four nights a week with

a signature star. >> do you think he just got tired of doing it? >> i don't think he got tired, because you could see he was brilliant. but he is a got with a lot of imagination. he said he was restless. that's what it came down to. he was restless. >> i can interpret that as he thinks he has probably done everything he can do on that show and it is time to move on. >> i think he would like to switch up his hours. you get on a show like that and if you're not a relationship when you get on the show you're never going to have sex again. you're never going to eat at a normal hour. you're going to be drinking booze at 8:00 in the morning. >> great to have both of you with us tonight. thanks so much. kuncoming up the keystone xl pipeline bill is on its way to the president's desk. the kwie-- plus, the guys from the

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welcome back to "the ed show." one of the most popular shows on television is "wicked tuna." these guys are living their dream. they ain't working. >> that's right. >> i have to tell you blue fin tuna is some of the most beautiful fish in the world, very powerful. they can reach up to 13 feet in length and weigh over 2,000 pounds. these fish put up a fabulous

fight and they can dive 14,000 feet. the blue fin tuna is really prized for its high quality meat. it is mainly used in sushi and 80% of the blue fin is consumed in japan. they are so popular they demand really a high price at the market. in january, the first blue fin of the year sold for $37,000. the 380-pound fish went for $98 a pound. demand has caused tuna populations around the world to plummet somewhat. last year noaa said the pacific blue fin population was estimated at just 40,000 adult worldwide. it is just 4% of the fish's historic average. in the atlantic strict fishing quotas has caused populations to rise in recent years. in 1998 the blue fin population

was 1/5 of the 1970s level. today it is 1/2 of the 1970s level. our next guests follow the rules and they know how to do what has to be done on deck to land that big fish. >> kick the boat kick the boat. keep going, keep going. one more. >> get ready. >> it's right there. >> how did that feel? >> yeah. he's a round one. that is a round fish. i don't have him yet. you have to get a tail strap on him. >> get it on there. good job, jay. >> oh yeah. nice hook. >> it's a 500-pound fish. >> that is what "the ed show" should look like. let me bring in captain dave

marciano and the other captain. you are the stewards of the resource. tell me about tuna fishing, dave, on the east coast. is it coming back? >> absolutely it is coming back. the trickery with fisheries management, a lot of it is trial and error. scientists try to create rules that will allow the stock to rebuild while we can make a living fishing too, because it is important to do both. what's good for fishermen and the fish. it has taken some time just like it took time to deplete the resource but over the past 20 years we have seen some great rebuilding. especially the last decade or so we have seen greater numbers every season. that's because u.s. fishermen have been the leaders in the world in implementing sustainable fishing practices.

>> this year we saw more fish than we have seen in ten years. >> did you think this show would ever be this popular? >> no. >> we didn't know. >> you have to be giggling every time you see it. >> they had no idea when they approached us with it. what are we going to do with these guys? >> we are living the dream. we're just riding the wave while it lasts. it is something we have never planned on. we have been able to put a face on fishermen. a lot of times there's opinions about fishing. sometimes they are not very kind the way they portray fishermen. at least with this part of what we're doing, working with national geographic we feel great about putting a face on the fishing industry. >> you say tuna fishing, people

think of nets. we catch our fish one hook at a time. >> the last fish that you caught is just as exciting as the first one you ever caught. >> exactly. i'm sure you remember the first one too, right? >> that's the hook. >> my knees were knocking when we hooked the first one. >> you never forget. never, ever forget. >> there is no rush in the world like that. >> it is the biggest adrenaline rush. plus the money is not bad either. >> it is a little slow today. we're up against the clock. what is that like sfl? >> we have had good years. we have had bad years. this is our living. we have to hang in there. we have gone a month without a fish without a hook up. we have all gone through it. >> that's tough. that's pressure. >> it's either feast or famine.

you always have to remember when fishing is good you put some away for when the fishing isn't good, right? we have all had to live with that especially with a family and bills to pay. it is inherent in the fishing industry. >> if regulations were not in place, what would have happened? >> i think the stock would have collapsed. the definition of a stock collapsing is they no longer become commercially viable to target. they're not extinct. they are not gone forever, but there is not enough fish for guys to target and make money. in my opinion, successful fisheries management and as a fisherman being part of the solution, not part of the problem is what i like to think of myself as. how do we rebuild the stock

while allowing fishermen like me to make a living even in a reduced manner? no we're not fishing as freely as we could 25 years ago, but at least we're fishing somewhat. now we're seeing the benefits of that result. we're seeing the stock increase. hopefully, in the future we'll be able to fish more as the stock gets healthier and healthier. the u.s. portion of the quota has increased by 20% overall for the united states. >> what does that tell you? that tells you the stock, scientifically scientifically, is getting better. >> is it water temperature? is it moon phases? is it bait fishing? >> it is bait. it is the moon. >> everything has a factor in this fishery. everything. >> i have figured out that with

these blue fin tuna in particular as soon as i think i know what they're doing, that's when i'm going to stop catching fish. >> every time you figure something out, that's out the window. >> what's the biggest fish you guys have got? >> 1287. >> mine was about 1200. >> lake manitoba i can do a 25-pound northern pike but i can't do anything 1200 pounds guys. i can't do that. >> i have never caught a 25-pound northern pike. i would be happy to do so. >> you have the invitation. i can tell you exactly where those fish are going to be depending on the conditions, time of year water temperature. >> we also have that set up. we know where we fish. we know where they're going to be. what time they're going to be coming by. >> to a point. unlike the lake these fish are

highly migratory species. these giant blue fin with travel 800 miles in a 24-hour period if they are inclined to do so. >> what's the biggest threat to them? >> killer whales. actually -- >> overall? it was overfishing, even in this country. in 20 years, we have demonstrated that proper management techniques will take care of that. it is good business. where's the profit for me if we catch all the fish today? >> when everyone abides by the rules -- it is on every sunday night. the show is on every sunday night. >> on the national geographic channel.

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just moments away from the spacex launch from cape canaveral. it's been delayed three times. the fourth attempt is scheduled at 6:03 p.m. this evening. newt gingrich may have been on to something. >> by the end of my second term. [ applause ] we will have the first permanent base on the moon and it will be american. [cheers and applause ] >> well, a moon base could be a reality, far more than beginning rich being president. they requested turf on the moon. the company wants to develop inflatable habitats suitable for your needs. in a response the f achl a says

they want to ensure commercial activities can be conducted on a noninterference basis. they are open to getting the ball rolling but activities on the moon are still regulated by the outer space treaty of 1967. space projects could get cheaper, though. the u.s. military is developing a plan to launch small grade rockets from f-15 fighter jets. the loss of program could slash millions from launching costs. and finally, space projects could get smaller. the european space agency launched an experimental wingless shuttle this morning. the car-sized spacecraft already returned to earth as planned. joining me tonight is a doctor professor of physics at the city university of new york and author of the future of the mind. great to have you with us tonight. >> great to be on. >> why should we go to the moon? >> well it sounds like utter

lunacy right? however, in 2025 we'll put the chinese flag on the moon. there could be not exactly a gold rush but renewed interest and in fact rivalries to see who could get lunar real estate. and there were squatter rights to squat on a chunk of lunar real estate, not ownership. but they have exclusive rights to develop balloons on the moon that could then be used for modules for a potential lunar base. >> you know if our pioneers two centuries ago had inflatable modules, we wouldn't have log cabins. you'd push a button the balloon inflates and there's your moon base. >> we really don't know where this is going, do we? there's endless possibilities and imagination here. >> well i think people are clueless when it comes to the bottom line. what is your business plan? the moon is one gigantic rock.

it's similar to the earth. the moon came from the earth originally and why not simply mine the earth? do you have to go to the moon to mine these minerals? maybe some exotic chemicals are found on the moon but you really have to scratch your head and find a commercial reason for going to the moon. >> but do you think we'll find a business race to be on the cutting edge and to be there? >> well i think there will be a motion to repeal the outer space motion of 1967 that bans claiming chunks of lunar real estate and i think there could be in fact a traffic jam around the moon around 2025 as the chinese and don't forget the indians are not too far behind and the russians and the united states begin to reclaim lunar real estate. >> the military is finding cheaper ways to launch

satellites. what does that mean? >> why not have a mini-satellite capability, that is an airplane or jet, for $1 million, just $1 million, that can send 100 pounds into orbit overnight. so you wouldn't have to have all of the paperwork, all of the launch problems just this sent up by f-15 fighter jets into outer space. >> and the esa shuttle is reusable. how beneficial is that? >> well, reuseability is the holy grail. the countdown has begun. in about 30 minutes we'll know whether space history is being made with the falcon 9. >> are you confident that this is going to help us forecast storms and severity and do what it is supposed to do when it comes to measuring the moisture in the ground? >> well it was al gore who first envisioned the deep space climate observatory to sit

between the sun and the earth. they have a continuous 24-hour surveillance of the planet earth and so we are now beginning to say, look global warming and the effects of the entire earth with regards to it heating up and also it's supposed to monitor solar flares from the sun. it could really ruin your day. it could paralyze our electric grid in a worst-case scenario and set us back 100 years in a worst-case scenario. >> thanks for coming in. >> thank you. >> you bet. that is "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. breaking news tonight, destroying isis without dragging us into another endless war. that's the strategy from president oembama who officially

asked congress for permission to launch military force against isis. >> the resolution we submitted today does not call for the deployment of u.s. ground combat forces to iraq or syria. this resolution repeals the 2002 authorize of force for the invasion of iraq and limits this new authorization to three years. i do not believe america's interests are served by endless war. >> the president doesn't want ground troops he doesn't want endless war but he is putting forward a strategy to stop isis and he does want congress to go on the record about t