our foreign correspondent has more. >> egypt continues its operations. it's carried out two sets of airstrikes against targets in the eastern part of the country. we saw in the previous map in the isis stronghold. this is an area where a lot of countries including the u.s. believe isis has been building up its capacity over the last several months. libya is in an influx. no central government to control that territory. as a result we have seen isis emerge. egypt carried out strikes against weapons depots and training sites and it will continue its operations as long as it needs to revenge the killing of those 21 egyptian christianss. meanwhile the egyptian president is coming under a little criticism. questions are being asked whether the government could do everything it could have to save

those 21 egyptians but were confirmed to have been murdered. >> up to now, we know the reaction when the pilot was killed that the reaction was to get involved in a much bigger way in the coalition airstrikes taking place in a syria region against isis. has egypt been involved and any sign they might expand their participation with the coalition? >> egypt has been part of the political or diplomatic coalition. it's not been involved in any operations against isis targets inside syria or iraq. egypt has been deal inging with their campaign of terrorism where isis has set up shop saying they have a group affiliation there. isis has expanded its footprint beyond iraq and syria. it has different affiliations across the region, but the two most potent are in egypt.

so they have been batd ling within their own borders but now it is participating in the coalition strikes, if you will. not in iraq and syria but bilaterally in libya next door. that's more of an immediate concern. security vacuum, a lot of militant groups out of that country. egypt felt they needed to carry out strikes immediately. whether or not egypt kits other resources to the fight is going to be a question to be answered in the coming weeks and months ahead. >> thank you very much. we appreciate those insights. thank you. it being winter, it's snowing. particularly in the northeast. however, there are some things that unique about this year. we're in the middle of the snowiest february in boston's history. according to the mayor, 16 inches of snow were dumped on the city yesterday on top of more than 7.5 feet of snow on

the ground from january. beyond the snow, they are dealing with bitterly cold temperatures. with some areas seeing temperatures as low as 3 degrees below zero. the mayor talked about the situation this morning. >> i feel terrible for the people of boston getting hit. i feel terrible for our businesses that haven't been able to open up and are struggling. i feel terrible for city workers who are working around the clock and getting kritcriticized for the work they are doing in some case. i just feel bad for people. >> adam reese joins me from boston. i lived in that area for about four years. it does get really o cold and snow every year. does it feel unusually bad in boston this year and a has the response from the city been unusually crippled by it? >> reporter: joy, this is different by every stretch of the word.

16 more inches and we're going to get a record here. take a look, this is what it looks like. this is the record-breaking snow. february is the snowiest month. like i said, 11.9 more inches it will be the snowiest season ever. katie is here. she's a native bostonian. what do you make of all this? >> it's terrible. you try to walk out and can't see anything. i don't know what to do. >> have you been able to go to work or take care of all the things you need to do? >> good thing today is a holiday, but i have been walking to work which has been terrible. i don't know if it's better to take the t or walk. either way it's dangerous. >> reporter: joy you asked about the plows. we didn't see many and it's so cold i don't know what they can do. it snowed a little. there's a lot of wind whipping some of the snow across the yard here. but unless they come through and

doing? do something about this, we might have to wait until spring and more snow on the way tomorrow. >> and we had heard earlier that the public transportation situation was pretty bad. has that improved as of now? >> reporter: logan has improved a little bit. they are deicing the planes. they are picking up the schedule there and a couple of the subway lines here are working. but some are not. very sporadic service today. >> stay warm, thank you. now it's not just boston getting a taste of the unbearable weather. 50 million people are in the path of snow and ice. here's video out of philadelphia showing what it looked like this morning after firefighters battled a fire. the extra cold weather is also hitting places that aren't accustomed to it. north carolina has already declared a state of emergency ahead of a storm that could dump up to a foot of snow on louisville, kentucky making it one of the biggest snowstorms in the state's history. arkansas could see nine inches

of snow. meteorologist davis is tracking the storm for us. >> we are looking at the snow that's been coming down all morning skplong now through the afternoon through parts of kentucky. it's moving into west virginia and the leading edge now is starting to push into the mid-atlantic. we have already had well over five inches from louisville down through bowling green and nashville. ice warnings are in effect across the i-75 area. we could see up to a half inch of ice. this system is going to continue to push off to the east. with the cold temperatures that are in place, we have been looking at temperatures 20 to 30 degrees below normal. that means that we are looking at a snow event as this continues to move up the coast. here's a look at futurecast. as we go through the evening you can see for the evening commute, it will be through the mid-atlantic. then after midnight it starts to push up to the northeast in through the new york area and then eventually up through boston.

so tomorrow morning's commute is going to be a snowy one for a lot of folks up the i-95 corridor. here's what we're looking at for snow totals right now. it looks like most of the snow will come down through the beltway. we could see over seven inches there. phi inches in philly. only three inches expected in new york city. this is good news for boston. this storm is not going to dump a lot of snow. right now the models are showing one to two inches with this. so that is certainly good news for them. >> domenica thank you very much. why should we care that it is cold in the winter? for one thing the unusual nature of some of the temperatures should raise questions about climate change. join ing joining me is bill new york the science guy, one of my favorite people period. so bill, there's a helpful description in "time" magazine that teases the difference between climate change and

weather. cold snops do not change the planet. climate is how the atmosphere behaves over a long period of time. >> let's not confuse or interchange climate change with global warming. the world is getting warmer. more carbon monoxide. so some places get colder. the thing that's consistent with climate change models is this variance where it's cold it's warm, it's cold it's warm. so i was in wyoming last week and it was 50 degrees, very unusual. so what i would hope for, my dream, joy, is that you all you and the news business would say the word climate change just like it could be climate change. it's a possible connection to climate change. just toss that in now and then. >> i would like to toss that in every single time. i'm in the mind that i grew up

in denver, colorado. i went to school in massachusetts. i have lived places where it's cold all the time. but when you see extremes of cold when you're breaking records from little rock to flint, michigan, to redding, pennsylvania we're breaking 100-year-old records in cold. is there not enough attention that people are paying to the planet? >> there isn't enough attention being paid. but i'll go on to say if the ocean, this nor'easter, if the oceans just ever so slightly warmer, it snows more. there's more moisture in the atmosphere. yesterday so excited about thunder snow this is where you had atmospheric conditions the difference between the bottom of the top was so strong that it was lightning and thunder during a snowstorm. it's cold. the only thing i would say,

msnbc is a progressive station as opposed to a conservative station, news organization. i will say to the conservatives, we need you. this is to say we can't have everybody be a progressive liberal bleeding heart and so on. we need people on both sides. but if the conservatives are going to continue to deny what 90% of the scientists in the world are saying, we're not going to reach a consensus and make progress. i get a sense that if i can use the term "they" know this because they are saying i'm not a scientist so i can't have an opinion on this. but you're a human running around in boston or louisville and you can look at the graphs as much as anybody. the world's climate is changing. along with that, apparently, is this extraordinary winter event. i have to tell you the hot weather events like we had in

texas in 2012, those are now statistically connected to climate change. any one event is hard to do when you're talking about -- >> it's the cumulative effect. >> i bet you in coming years people will be able to tie events like this mathematically to the bigger picture. we need you. just say it could be climate change. just once in awhile. >> i think the bigger picture meaning we're not pursueing the policies. bill ney? >> just talk about climate change. if we were talking about it, we'd raise awareness and get to work and i as a guy born in the u.s. would like the u.s. to be leading this effort. it's president's day. let's lead. >> bill ney the science guy speaking truth to those who don't want to talk about it. let's go to denmark where

two suspected accomplices have been arrested in the country's first terrorist attack. this man here was identified as the gunman believed to be responsible for attacks at a freedom of speech event in copenhagen. they are mourning two people killed in the attacks including a film maker and jewish u security guard. the prime minister said today there were no signs of links to a wider terrorist network. >> this is a young man of 22. he's a danish citizen born in denmark. he was known by the police for several criminal acts including severe violence. he was also known to be linked to a criminal gang in copenhagen copenhagen. >> kelly joins me on the phone. what do we know about the gunman and this investigation so far? >> we don't know too much more about the gunman in terms of

where he came from whether or not he was radicalized outside of denmark. he was born in denmark. security services don't believe that he had traveled to syria. there are young people who have traveled there. but so far there's no indication that he was one of them. so those questions are still sort of out there. in terms of the investigation, we have two men in court today charged with some pretty serious charges charges. no terrorism ovb offenses, but they were charged with attempted murder, assistance o to murder and some weapons charges. they are accused of helping hide the gunman and helping get rid of a weapon. a lawyer told the associated press today that they deny those charges. that's what we know so far in terms of the investigation. right now in the center of copenhagen, there are literally

thousands upon thousands of people coming here to pay their respects at the cafe to listen in on presentations and music and speeches by various politicians in what's called a rally of solidarity. if there's any question how denmark has been affected by this all you need to do is look around at these people standing shoulder to shoulder for this rally of solidarity. >> we can hear that going on behind you. kelly, thank you. coming up, a deep dive on the issues that divide democrats and republicans at the voting booth and how those issues could shake up the 2016 presidential campaign. plus they don't call her the notorious rbg for nothing. sharing some of her exclusive interview with supreme court justice ginsberg and what she had to say on everything from race relations to sipping a fabulous glass of red.

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there's good news for hillary clinton and democrats on the whole in the latest batch of nbc news polls. hillary clinton leads jeb bush in a 2016 matchup among registered voters in iowa and new hampshire. she wins in a contest against every conservative's dark horse, scott walker of wisconsin. more importantly for hillary's party is how voters in these polls responded to key issues including the economy and same-sex marriage. the director of polling for the institute of public opinion, thank you for being here. >> my pleasure. >> let's start with the dichotomy between republican-leaning voters and democrats and everyone else.

a couple poll results. the most acceptable issues, you took seven issues and said the most acceptable and least acceptable. the most acceptable among registered voters was a candidate who wants to raise taxes on wealthy. the least acceptable is a candidate who opposes same-sex marriage. which is the bigger surprise? that democrats express this desire for tax raising or the same-sex marriage cropping up as the thing they would least find acceptable? >> i don't think either is particularly surprising. we're seeing in these numbers and you can hear the dialogue itself and how that's changed. the whole issue o of income inequality and people are sharing in the economic recovery. that's become so much more part of the dialogue even this early in the campaign expected o to be even more so and that's clearly a strong issue for democrats. there's a huge divide in these

numbers when you look at in a state like iowa for example. between what democrats want and what republicans want and that's where the polarization comes in in terms of health care, in terms of support for more troops against the fight against isis, really fundamental differences in opinion between democrats and republicans. you might say they are polls apart right now. >> absolutely true. when you look at the republican side of that ledger, you do find that -- and again republicans are living -- they don't have the full affordable care act, but the most acceptable was a candidate who wants to repeal the affordable care act and the least acceptable believing climate change is manmade. that is interesting to me in the sense that you have had repeated numbers of perspective republican candidates demere on the subject of climate change. we were just talking about how important it is that we get together policy wise.

it stands out that this idea that believing in climate change is so unacceptable to republican voters. >> you see that in iowa where the first caucus state is to be held. you see it also in south carolina. a pivotal primary state. in new hampshire, the attitude is more divided among republicans. so we do see not only on that issue where clearly so far it's removed from where democrats are, it's a night and day kind of difference. but we see in all these issues, the republicans have multiple constituencies and very much are divided in terms of there's great diversity of viewpoint from state to state that we polled. so from iowa to new hampshire to south carolina the onlyialty is they don't like obamacare and are more hawkish on fighting isis. all three states, all seven

issues, the democrats have a consensus. there's no divergence of opinion on the democratic side whereas on the republican side, they are all over the place on the seven issues in the three different states. >> i want to zero in on one of those issues which is educational standards. we're coming up on the time that's going to kick in in a major way and it's an important issue to jeb bush, who is one of the candidates who is doing pretty well in these polls. acceptability of common core educational standards. talk a little bit about how that is playing particularly among republican voters in these state states. >> you asked me earlier about any surprises. there's a surprise on this very issue. the issue of the common core, which is something that iowa republican potential electorate is more positive towards than one might have thought given the reputation. in the other states, new hampshire and in south carolina, we saw a division there on the issue of the common core. so the big question politically

is whether this is going to be a liability for jeb bush down the road in the iowa caucus. yes and no right now no but then we have the whole campaign to wage and the context of the campaign and the ads and the debates and the forums and all that's going to go on between now and roughly 11 months from now when the caucus goers actually meet. there's a lot that can still happen. it's very fluid in terms of the candidates, the constituencies that exist and how each is going to strategically try to head off another one who might be dipping into their potential base. so i think it's going to be a fascinating development on the republican side. democratic side maybe a little more boring. as i said, there's a commonty of viewpoints on all these issues in each of the three states we polled. >> that can be good and not good so we'll see how that

place out. fascinating on the issues on the republican end of the spectrum. thank you for being here. now let's get to three things for you to know on this monday. the man accused of killing chris kyle and his friend chad littlefield is back in court today. evidence in testimony has been focused on his mental health. five law enforcement witnesses took the stand today including the lead investigator who took his confession. ralph was in the grip of psychosis. he's pleaded not guilty by reason of insanity. during a preliminary hearing for the girls accused of stabbing a classmate, one girl's attorney says he will prove his client's case belongs in juvenile court. prosecutors charged the girls as adults with first degree attempted homicide, which left the victim with 19 stab wounds. and new york city was buzzing over the nba all-star weekend. russell westbrook took the title

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those attacks. the united nations secretary general has condemned the beheading of the christian hostages in libya. the security council demanded the immediate release of all hostages held by the terrorist group or anyone associated with al qaeda. the northeast woke up to historic low temperatures as the arctic blast settles in. many are seeing single digit temperatures, but it could feel as low as negative 30 in some areas. people down south were feeling it too with multiple states including oklahoma and north carolina whose governor declared a state of emergency under winter storm warnings. in the come lg months the supreme court is widely expected to deliver a landmark decision on same-sex marriage. it's the late nest a string of high profile cases the high court has tackled. regardless of how you feel about the decisions on the affordable care act, voting rights or hobby lob by there's no arguing that

justice ginsberg delivered a cult-like following. we recently sat down with the notorious rbg. i'm extremely jealous that you got to sit down with her because she has this great following. i am a huge admirer. what was the most surprising thing she told you. >> i found her to be amazingly vibrant. as the leader of the liberal one of the court she's found her voice. >> did she start to become more forthright, forward leading once she started hearing people chitchatting about her needing to retire? >> she's coming out there and showing she talked to me about how she pulls all-nighters writing decisions. in fact, she said that's one of the reasons she fell asleep at the state of the union. not just because she had a glass of wine but because her pen was

hot and stayed up all night. i actually can show you what she said about that. >> please, let's listen in. >> i've got to ask you, by the way, everybody is talking about the state of the union. they are saying you said yesterday that you were not 100% sober. >> what i meant that i had a glass of wine with dinner and that on top of having stayed up all night writing something. >> so you're a bit of a lightweight, as we call it it? >> i thought to myself, don't stay up all night, but then my pen was hot, so i couldn't stop what i was doing. and then i said just drink sparkling water and no wine, but the dinner was so good and. it needed to be complimented. >> i lo that the fact that she has that work ethic. she has a first class mind.

this is a sharp woman who has strong opinions. she seems to sometimes feel like she's not so impressed with some of the reasoning of her conservative counterparts. does that come through to you? >> one of the reasons she's found her voice, one of the reasons she's speaking out more is because the court has moved to the right. you can really see this as she's become the leader of the liberal wing of the court she's spoken up on all kinds of decision whether it's in her hobby lobby dissent and one of the presumptions of the roberts court that racism is a thing of the past. we're done we don't need the voting rights act. >> that wasn't fun. >> this kind of post racial mentality. i asked her about that. here's what she had to say. >> all right, let's listen. >> i'm wondering how you see the current state of race relations in our country. >> people who think you could

wave a magic wand and the the legacy of the past will be over are blind. >> should we be worried that all of those great achievements are being rolled back? >> some day we'll go back to having the kind of legislature that we should where members whatever party they belong to want to make the thing work. >> did you get the sense that one of the reasons she's sticking around is she's afraid that the roll back is going to continue and that she wants to be there to make sure it doesn't happen on her watch. >> first of all, she loves her job. as long as i can do this job full steam i'm not going anywhere. if president obama appointed someone in my place, he wouldn't find someone as good as me. so it seems very clear she's not going anywhere any time soon if she has anything to say. >> that's true. congratulations on a terrific interview. i want to let everyone know you'll be able to see much more of the interview with justice

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the fbi has begun a civil rights investigation in rhode island after a muslim school in west warwick was vandalismed. these pictures were given by the islamic school of rhode island. this defacement went beyond normal vandalism. and that the perpetrator wrote senseless, hateful comments. in texas arson investigators are trying to determine whether a fire that destroyed one of three buildings on friday was intentional ly intentionally set. no one was injured in the fire that started before morning prayers. now to developing news out of north carolina. a grand jury has just indicted 46-year-old craig hiks in connection with the killing of three muslim college students. he was indicted on three counts

of first-degree murder and one count of discharging a firearm. but as people count to mourn these deaths, a new design is serving a as symbol of the social media campaign. it's gone viral thanks to a 21-year-old design student. he came up with the design and thank you so much for being here. we really appreciate it. >> thanks for having me. >>. i first noticed your silhouette tweeted out on the facebook page of our foreign correspondent here who noticed it and noted the story behind it. tell us about your background as a designer and what encourages and inspired you to design this breathtaking silhouetted piece? >> yes, i mean, i have been creating -- i consider myself an artist since elementary school. i'm a junior design student at the university of cincinnati. as far as this drawing, it was something i came up with on the spot.

my family lives in raleigh where this happened, so we heard about the incident that same day. but we didn't even know much details about it. we didn't know the victim's names. the next morning is when everything came out and that's when i came up with the idea. i drew it up, and posted it on instagram before a class and thought nothing of it. as a design student i posted it for my personal and portfolio purr purposes. after class i checked my phone and i had no idea. >> the fact that you drew these three young people killed so horrifically in chapel hill you drew them in silhouette why silhouette rather than depict their faces? >> honestly it was instinctive design, a choice i made. it was basically just something in their memory and something that would be long lasting the

cool thing is that i've been getting a lot of response about it. i have so many people telling me different meanings. that's the beauty of the image. it's take it for whatever it you want it to be. my personal motive behind it was honoring the victims and everyone around the world take it for what it went. >> it universal liezed them in a way that you don't see that often unfortunately with muslim members of american society. the depiction of the hi job and a lot of people responded to it. i want to play you what the sister had to say to dorian warren this weekend about these killings and just their take on this parking dispute version of the story. >> this was premeditated murder. someone came into my brother's home when they were unarmed murdered them by shooting

bullets into their heads execution style. you don't do that over a parking dispute. >> and mohammed, do you feel -- there is a muslim lives matter movement on social media. have people failed to grasp the gravity of what happened to these young people for one reason or another? >> i think it's kind of split on this. as far as my image, i have seen so much support and solidarity for the family and the victims both from non-arab backgrounds. as far as the situation itself, i honestly think it's in a way disrespectful to call it a parking dispute. i really do think there's more to it. there were multiple incidents before the actual shooting where craig hicks was harassing the couple, he even flashed his gun at them. the day of the shooting, no one was even parked in his parking

spot. i think there's more to it. >> indeed, you certainly have made a huge contribution to people's understanding of what happened. don't let anybody say art doesn't make a difference. mohammed thank you very much for being here. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. next we will read between the lines on the judge fighting the ghosts of mississippi's past. that detergent was like half the price! and we'll have to use like double! maybe more! i'm going back to the store? yes you are. dish issues? get cascade complete. one pac cleans tough food better than 6 pacs of the bargain brand combined. cascade. now that's clean.

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holiday initially meant to celebrate the birthday of george washington and eventually expanded to encompass all presidents and move to the third monday in february when congress moved to consolidate the holidays on mondays to give more american workers time off. not in the news business. while george washington was alive and for more than 65 years after his death, this country and its founding fathers

sanctioned the enslavement of african-americans. for more than 100 years after the civil war, much of the country, particularly in the south, endured violent re resistance to african-americans asserting themselves as full citizens. several states have become notorious for that resistance. alabama home to the busboy bus boycotts. but one state mississippi has held a special place in that dark history. so when on february 12th only the second african-american to serve as a federal judge in mississippi handed down five 5 to 50-year sentences to three of ten defendants in the brutal 2011 murder of james craig anderson, a 46-year-old jackson auto worker beaten and run over by a gang of assailants who

yelled "white power" as they killed him. u.s. district court judge did so with a deep sense of history. his full remarks are long and eloquent and frank and you can link to them on our facebook page. here's an excerpt. a toxic mix of alcohol, foolishness and hatred caused these young people to resurrect the nightmarish speck tor of lynchings from the mississippi we long to forget. like the month radars of ages past, they coordinated a plan of attack for the soul purpose of harassing, terrorizing physical assaulting and causing bodily injury to black folk. they punched and kicked them, they prowled, they came ready to hurt they used dangerous weapons, they targeted the weak thae recruited others to join in the coordinated chaos and they boasted about their shameful

activity. but the judge also noted that mississippi is taking steps away from its tortured past and that each defendant was escort eded in by african-american u.s. marshals, prosecuted by an african-american assistant u.s. attorney from an office headed by an african-american u.s. attorney under an african-american attorney general. my final act, he said, will be to turn them over to the bureau of prisons, which is also led by an african-american. james craig anderson's partner says their son is afraid to sleep in their own bed because he doesn't want those men to get him. he can't be. called anderson's spouse because a decision overturning mississippi's same-sex marriage ban is still on appeal and the federal judge who issued the ruling declaring the marriage ban. unconstitutional judge reeves history is nothing if not ironic. i'll see you back here tomorrow.

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