el maddow starts now. thank you for joining us. tonight is the night of our supreme court justice ruth baeder-ginsburg interview tonight. of our supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg interview. very excited about that. that is coming up. very excited. it's been making for a very happy monday around here all day. although here today i should tell you as in most of the country, today has been very very, very cold cold to the point of uncomfortable, record breaking cold. the city of boston is now buried in more than eight feet of snow with yet more on the way. places like kentucky and virginia and even little rock arkansas, got walloped today. ice and snow. i went ice fishing in new hampshire this weekend. it was really really really, really, really cold ice fishing. that's sort of the point of ice fishing. but even in the middle of a frozen lake in new england, ice fishing on saturday it was still not as cold where i caught

that fish as it was in downtown madison, wisconsin, where a large number of people were out in the cold not fishing, but rather protesting against wisconsin governor scott walker. it was minus 13 or something with the windchill when this big protest happened against scott walker this weekend in madison, specifically about what he is proposing to do against public university necessary wisconsin. the governor's budget proposal for that state this year includes a $ 300 million cut from the university of wisconsin's system. $300 million. it sort of sounds like a big, round number that doesn't necessarily mean anything on its face. to put it in perspective, the chancellor of the university of wisconsin at madison, which is the flagship campus for that system, and also i should say one of the finest public universities anywhere in the country or in the world, the chancellor of the madison campus says that if she just outright eliminates the school of nursing and the law school and the business school and the pharmacy

school and the school of veterinary medicine if she outright eliminates all of those schools from the madison campus that still would not be enough to make up for what scott walker wants to cut from that campus. wow. at the university of wisconsin in milwaukee which is an urban campus in that system their share of the scott walker cuts they say would be equivalent to totally eliminating the school of public health and the school of information studies and the school of social welfare and the whole engineering school. that would get you close to what scott walker wants to cut from that campus. the university of wisconsin is a bikon for that whole part of the country in terms of higher education. one of the things wisconsin is known for nationwide is the outstanding quality of their public higher education. it's their claim to fame nationwide. and their governor is proposing essentially to dismantle that which is an amazing thing in that state and which got a lot of people out on valentine's day on a saturday at minus 13

degrees windchill to not ice fish, but instead, to go protest what he wants to do. but you know what? come on let's be realistic. scott walker is running for president. and so this is the kind of thing he's going to be doing for the next year or so. he is, in fact increasingly seen as a top tier presidential candidate on the republican side. i think that is in part because conservatives nationwide, they may love the idea of destroying the university of wisconsin. i don't know. i think it's probably driven more by the fact that a lot of the other would-be top tier candidates who are supposed to be competing with scott walker right now, those other would-be top tier candidates are having trouble right out of the gate, new jersey governor chris christie has had a bad few weeks, including a bad overseas trip to london that got him a lot of bad headlines. former supporters in new jersey, including the campaign manager from the first time he ran for governor seem to be siding more with jeb bush than with him.

chris christie's poll numbers at home in new jersey have absolutely tanked. conservative media buzz used to have chris christie at the top of the list of connected republicans, best positioned to win the republican presidential nomination, but not right now. now he's basically considered to be more in the marching order of guys like mike huckabee or rand paul. rand paul is now past the phase where he got to enjoy being the object of beltway media fascination. he's now in the part where he is trying to present himself as a credible candidate for president. it's not going great both because he doesn't seem to have any major donor support, which is important at this stage, but also because he keeps making a lot of unforced errors. like, for example, senator paul saying multiple times at a recent appearance that he has a degree in biology. rand paul does not have a degree in the biology. the amazing thing about this is nobody said to him at this

event, senator paul do you have a degree in biology? he just volunteered that. i have a degree in biology. and it's not true. now, of course he's very angry that what he's pointing out is no true. nobody would have brought it up had he not said it. rand paul what are you doing? why would you volunteer that if it's not true about yourself? you are under no pressure to prove your biology days. so a lot of the people who look like they might be top tier candidates are fizzling already. so the man to beat might very well be scott walker. it's kind of hard to believe, but honestly the conservative media loves him right now. one of the things they love him for is his proposal to absolutely gut the flagship university system that his state is known for. but beyond scott walker, you know, if you do look at the stuff that makes it possible to put together a winning bid for the nomination if you look at connections and big donor money and early commitments and who has the real establishment on their side the closest thing the republican party has this

year to an inevitable candidate, to an inevitable nominee is of course, jeb bush. and now, faced with the age-old dilemma, pets or meat, which is it, pets or meat? we now know thanks to a brand new scoop in the "new york times," that jeb bush, the closest thing the republican party has to an inevitable candidate this year, jeb bush when it comes to pets or meat, he's a meat man. hi. i saw the sign down on the street that said you were selling rabbits and bunnies here. >> yeah. >> for sale? >> you want pets or meat? >> pets or meat meaning i can buy the bunnies to -- to have as a pet or i can buy them for --

and meat. they're already dressed and clean. i butcher the babies when the babies reach four or five months old. >> well that's good. >> because, you see, if you butcher the older ones they're stewers, they're fought fryers. and a lot of poem like fryers better than they do the stewers. >> that makes sense. >> so i keep my own personal stock. when think babies get 4 or 5 months old, and i have 15 20 babies, you have to get rid of them as some way. if you don't sell them as pets you have to get rid of them as meat. >> pets or meat. that's from roger and me obviously, michael moore being amazing. but we now now thanks to a brand new scoop in today's "new york times," that on that age old question of pets or meat when it comes to rabbit jeb bush is a meat man. and we know that because of this the letter on bright yellow paper that was given to jeb bush in 1985 by the vice president of marketing for the american commercial rabbit association, quote, i am developing a

business plan for the marketing of domestic rabbit meat. i would value your assistance in establishing contact with a potential usda liaison. this prn apparently met jeb bush at a bush family political fund-raiser in 1985. hand delivered this letter to him saying hey, help me out with my rabbit meat plan. thank to the "new york times" digging that letter out of the george h.w. bush presidential archives we now know that jeb bush hooked the rabbit meat lady up. look. look at what he said. dear senior adviser to the vice president of the united states, who happens to be my dad, tom, can you get me a name at usda to help out the rabbit meat lady? sends the note. and, you know when the son of the vice president of the united states wants a rabbit meat contact in the federal government, well that's what he gets. within less than a week. look, this is the letter from the office of the vice president on ooufs of the vice president stationary.

seeking a federal reseveral for the rabbit meat lady. good thing she went to a fund-raiser, right inspect here is a follow-up log. see the handwritten notation on the right? the notation there says rabbit meat usda. that was the subject of the conversation. and here is the response a representative from the federal government calling the rabbit meat lady directly to make sure she has the contact she needs and to make sure she knows jeb bush took care of her. so the "new york times" did this deep dive into obviously not just the rabbit meat thing, but all the other evidence there is of how jep jeb bush over the course of his lifetime, over the course of his political career has made very good use of his family corrections. and it is remarkable, the things large and small you can get done when you are the grandson of a senator, the son of a vice president, the son of a president, the brother of another president. it's one thing to have sort of an amorphous idea of what that privilege and power must mean for a person.

it's another thing to see the granular thank you note details of it. and to see that he really thanks to his family connections, is used to having a ton of pull thanks to his brother and grandfather and his dad and all the other bushes and their political power and contacts. one of the weirder political losses of the george h.w. bush administration, so jeb's dad anticipates presidential administration. one of the weirder political knocks they took when i was president was the u.s. senate deciding not once but twice, to reject someone who bush supported to be the u.s. attorney in the state of florida. the nominee is a guy who got admonished by the justice department for the way he ran his office. the attorney general of the united states had to wade into this guy's office and take him personally off a high profile prosecution because he was not seen as being experienced enough or temperamentally suited enough

to handle a high profile prosecution. so the attorney general of the united states had to step in and take him off it. the fbi background on this guy recounted a whole bunch of previous allegations of domestic violence against him. for all of those reasons and others besides, the senate rejected this nomination for this guy to be u.s. attorney. rejected it once. but still, for some reason poppy bush nominated him again and did him the insult of rejecting his nominee for the second straight time. what was behind the commitment for this guy? jeb bush in florida had been advocating for that guy's nomination forcibly. advocating to his father when he was vice president advocating to his father when he was president, including letters to the top staffers about this fom nation. jeb bush went so far when his father was president also went

so far at one point to make a recommendation to his father as to who should get the next open seat on the supreme court of the united states. he writes a letter to his dad, encloses the guy's resume says quote, many people know him in miami, in case that's an important qualification for the supreme court. but jeb bush is writing at this point with this recommendation as the president's son, writing to his dad's top advisers about who ought to be on the supreme court. should the opportunity arise, i would hope you would give consideration to peter t. faye's promotion to the u.s. supreme court. peter t. faye did not get nominated by poppy bush to the supreme court despite his son's request to the can tear. since then every president has two. president clinton chose ruth bader ginsburg.

president obama so far has chosen sonia sotomayor and alaina kagan. supreme court nominations are among the most important things that any president does ever. and not every iteration of the supreme court hears brown versus board of education or bush v. gore for that matter or roev. wade. not every iteration of the court hears cases that become household names and that change the world drastically and forever. but the scattered showers of the united states has breath taking power. on a mereadeyrad of issues. we're awaiting cases that might elimination the whole of obamacare in one fell swoop. millions of people losing their health insurance at once they could do that. we're awaiting another case that

could legalize same-sex marriage nationwide or not. we're waiting another case that could ban the way that states kill their prisoners now by lethal injection. that's all in the next few months. the supreme court is really important. and a president's choices around who they would put on the supreme court are among the most important criteria we have when it comes to choosing a president. for example, webb that jeb bush would have liked a guy named peter t. faye for the supreme court. okay. but our supreme court right now has on its plate an unusually large number of really really confidential cases all of which are going to get heard in the next few weeks and decided in the next few months. and because of that, the opportunity to hear from one of the justices of the supreme court, the opportunity to talk with one of the justices about that work and how they are approaching it and how they feel about politics right now, the opportunity to do that that is a big deal and a very rare opportunity. and so without further ado i

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switch to comcast business today and get 50 megabits per second for $89.95. comcast business. built for business. okay. jae just ahead, our exclusive interview with ruth bader ginsburg the 81-year-old justice on her health her legacy on women's rights on abortion rights, on president obama and her relationship with him and ruth bader ginsburg on tattoos. turns out she has strong opinions on tattoos. our interview with justice ginsburg is next, not to bybe missed.

april 2009 president obama had been in office for a little more than three months. he was just starting to get his feet wet as a brand new president when all of a sudden it became red alert time inside the white house. news leaked to npr reporter nina totemberg that security justice david constitutore or suitor was about to retire. he was only 69 years old. but npr got this scoop that he was leaving the court and barack obama, just three months into being president barack obama, he's faced with one of those "this is not a drill" moments. think about that for a second. you're president, you've only been president for three months but you alone get to nominate the next member of the united states supreme court who will then serve for life. a few weeks after that the brand new president, barack obama, announced his choice would be season na sewonia sotomayor.

she described getting that call i had my cell phone in my right hand and i had my left hand over my chest trying to calm my beating heart, literally. the president got on the phone and said to me judge, i would like to announce you as me selection to be the next associate justice of the supreme court. i caught my breath and started to cry and said thank you, mr. president. sonia sotomayor was president obama's first supreme court appointment. but not his last. about a year later when supreme court justice john paul stevens announced his retirement president obama nominated former solicitor general alain na kagan. some presidents don't get one supreme court appointment during their time in office. president obama has so far had two and one big sometimes awkward question that has lingered over the final two years of his presidency is whether he's going to get another pick as well. the oldest serving member of the u.s. supreme court right now is ruth bader ginsburg. she is 81 years old.

she was appointed by bill clinton in 1993 after a career that included founding the weapon's rights project at the ac will you. she was the second woman ever to serve on the supreme court after sandra day o'connor. and all of the speculation, all of the time now when it comes to ruth bader ginsburg is how much longer does she intend to serve? and when you look at ruth bader ginsburg in that way, as 81 years old, somebody who survived a number of health scarce over the years, it seems like a logical question to ask. but then you hear her speak. and then you look at her opinions on the latest cases decide by the court, and you realize, yeah, 81 years of age, but ruth bader ginsburg is not only on top of her game she might be at the height of her game right now. my msnbc colleague sat down with ruth bader ginsburg at the supreme court and what she got from her was a wide rienging

fascinating interview that included that magic question, how much longer do you plan to keep doing this. watch. >> i know that you have no intention of retiring correct me if i am wrong, anytime soon. but i'm wondering what you want your successor to look like. >> my successor will be the choice of whatever president is sitting at that time. i'm concerned about doing the job and many times once i sense that i am slipping i will step down because this is a very intense job. it is, by far, the best and the hardest job i've ever had. and it takes a lot of energy. and staying power to do it right. i will step down when i feel i can no longer do the job. >> lots of people worry about your health. they want to know are you cancer free? how is your health? >> i had my first chance about

in 1999. that was colorectal cancer. and it was a challenge. it was massive surgery, chemotherapy, radiation, the whole works. then i was fine for ten years. and then in 2009 a tiny tumor iniy pancreas was detected. i had surgery for that. that was 2009. now it's 2015. the most recent episode occurred when i was with my personal trainer and suddenly my chest felt so constricted and i broke out in a sweat and it was overwhelmingly nauseous. so i said well i stayed up all night last night writing an opinion, so i'm just exhausted. i'll rest for a while. i was very stubborn. it was a blocked right coronary

artery artery. as soon as they put this stent in i was awake during the procedure. groggy, but still awake. as soon as the stent was in place, i was fine. no more constriction in my chest. >> other than that? your health is okay? >> other than that it's fine. >> when you were fighting for women's rights in the '70s, what did you think 2015 would look like? what's the unfinished business that we have when it comes to againer equality? >> our goal in the '70s was to end the coldest era. there were so many things that were -- policing fire fighting mining piloting planes all those barriers are gone. and the stereo typical view of people, of the world divided between home and child caring

women and men as bread winners, men representing the family outside the home those stereotypes are gone. so we speak to a parent rather than mother. and wage earner rather than male bread winner. that job was an important first step. what's left what's still with us and harder to deal with is what i call unconscious bias. >> you've been a champion of reproductive freedom. how does it feel when you look across the country and you see states passing restrictions that make it inaccessible if not technically illegal? >> inaccessible to poor women. it's not true that it's inaccessible to women of means. and that's the crying shame. we will never see a day when women of means are not able to get a safe abortion in this country. there are states -- take the worst case.

supposed roev. wade is overruled. there will still be a number of states that will not go back to old ways. >> well, there's now lots of legislative activity and now in the direction of shutting down clinics and creating barriers. >> who does that hurt? it hurts women who lack the means to go some place else. the situation with abortion right now, by all the restrictions, they operate against the woman who doesn't have freedom to move to go where she is able to get safely what she wants. >> you mentioned if roe v. wade is overturned. how close are we to that inspect. >> this court is highly precedent bound. it could happen but i think it's not a likely scenario. the court had an opportunity to do that some years ago. and it said in an opinion known

as casey that they would not depart from the precedent they had set. they did more than that. they gave a reason a rationale that was absent in roe v. wade itself. roe v. wade was as much about a doctor's right to practice his profession as he sees fit. and the image was the doctor and the little woman standing together. you never saw the woman alone. but the casey decision recognized that this is not as much about a doctor's right to practice his profession but about a woman's right to control her life's destiny. i don't want to make any predictions. but precedent is important. in this court. >> we'll have more of this exclusive interview with justice ginsburg next stay with us.

hey matt, what's up? i'm just looking over the company bills. is that what we pay for internet? yup. dsl is about 90 bucks a month. that's funny, for that price with comcast business, i think you get like 50 megabits.

wow, that's fast. personally, i prefer a slow internet. there is something about the sweet meditative glow of a loading website. don't listen to the naysayer. switch to comcast business today and get 50 megabits per second for $89.95. comcast business. built for business. we're back now with more from our big sit-down interview with justice beginsburg. justice ginsburg does not do many interviews, but she spoke with erin carmone about a wide range of issues. she spoke about women's rights and abortion rights. she had a stinging critique of the dysfunction of our current congress, which you'll hear in just a moment. but she also entertained a lightning round. watch this. >> i wonder justice, if you could give me one word just one word that comes to mind when i say a few things.

just a fun little game. president obama. >> let's see. [ speaking foreign language ]. >> it means more than sympathetic. it means someone who cares about other people. >> citizens united? >> wrong. >> chief justice roberts. >> most able chief. >> hobby lobby. >> wrong again. >> you've been dismayed by the court's rulings on women's rights. >> not altogether. think of the case of the girl who was strip searched. she's in the eighth grade. and if you saw the difference between the oral argument and what some of my colleagues thought, oh, the boys in the gym, they undress is and nobody thinks anything of it. >> that was a case in which you changed their minds is what it looks like. >> yes. yes. so as we live we can learn. it's important to listen. so i am very glad that case came

out as it did. >> so i'm looking at something that you wrote in 2003. you said the stain of generations of racial oppression is still visible in our society. i'm wondering how you see the current state of race relations in our country. >> people who think you could wave a magic wand and the legacy of the past will be over are blind. think of neighborhood living patterns. we still have many neighborhoods that are racially identified. we still have many schools. even though the days of state enforce segregation are gone segregation because of geographical boundaries remains. >> the court has taken a look at some major civil rights laws in the past. you've dissented on the voting rights case. there's been several title vii cases that seem to be chipping

away a lot of the legislation that was passed during the civil rights era. should we be worried that all of those great achievements of the civil rights movement are being rolled back? >> the congress in 1991 took a look at some of this court's restrictive interpretations of title vii. they passed a bill that changed all of those. at the moment our congress is not functioning very well. >> yeah. >> for example, the voting rights act was renewed by overwhelming majorities on both sides of the aisle. but the current congress is not equipped, really to do anything. some day, we will go back to having the kind of legislature that we should. where members, whatever party they belong to want to make the thing work and cooperate with each other to see that that will happen. i mean it was that way in 1993 when i was nominated for this good job. there were only three negative

votes. and my hope and expectation is that we will get back to that kind of bipartisan spirit. >> and when the time comes, what would you like to be remembered for? >> someone who used whatever talent she had to do her work to do the very best of her ability, and to help repair tears in her society. to do something, as my colleague, david souter, would say, outside myself. because i've gotten much more satisfaction with the things that i've done for which i was not paid. >> someone who used whatever talent she had to do her work to the very best of her ability and to help repair tears in her society. supreme court justice ruth bader ginsburg. i want to show you one more exchange from this interview. as you may be aware, ruth bader ginsburg has achieved sort of a cult following on line. there's a tumblr dededicated to

her with notorious r.b.g. themed internet means. there are even ruth bader ginsburg i kid you not, tattoos that have cropped up across the country. erin, god bless her, asked ruth bader ginsburg about people getting ruth bader ginsburg tattoos. watch this. >> i wanted to -- i wondered, have you -- >> i saw that and i thought it was -- i thought it was a joke. i thought it was something you pasted on to your arm. but i'm a little distressed that people are really doing that. >> distressed why? >> because why would you make something that can't be removed on yourself? it's one thing to make holes. and that you can use or not. my granddaughter, for a while, was wearing a nose ring. now she's not any more. but a tattoo you can't remove.

>> well i think it's because they admire you. that's why. this is the second tattoo i'm aware of. the other one has a picture of you and it says respect the bench. >> oh that's a nice sentiment. >> so my face that's very distressing. respect the bench? yeah, that's a nice sentiment. amazing. a huge thanks and huge huge congratulations to erin carmone for getting this great interview and for letting us debut it here. erin is going to be on the last word with lawrence o'donnell with more on the interview and is we are going to post the whole unedited thing online. great get by erin. great interview. all right. we've got lots of other news tonight, including this. which is the kind of thing that is never good news but at least today it did happen in the middle of a giant snowstorm. that made it better in terms of the huge fireball, but worse in terms of first responders getting there. that's ahead, stay with us.

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the country. in one corner of america, this is the day for snow ice and fire, flames reaching hundreds of feet into the air. a great royaling column of fire. reporters coming into this area trying to find eyewitnesss to tell them what was going on. reporters said they could hear the flames roaring over own the phone while people tried to describe to them what they were seeing. we'll be talking with an eyewitness right after this. stay with us.

so early this afternoon, about 1:30 local time 109-car freight train carried crude oil from north dakota went off the rails near mt. carbon west virginia. it's about 30 miles out of west virginia's capital city charleston. following the derailment there were multiple large explosions. we have reports that one home was destroyed, other homes may have also caught fire. the railroad csx, said one person suffered an inhalation injury from the fire. they've evacuated hundreds of

people so far, everybody within a half mile of the derailment and the subsequent explosion. we have reports that at least one train car ended up in the canawah river and some of the crude oil ended up in this river. these local towns drink that water from the river. now, where this crash happened today, it isn't in the middle of a big city or anything but it's also not in the middle of nowhere. there were a lot of people who witnessed what happened, a lot of people who took videos and photos of the aftermath, the flames, people who talked to reporters about what they saw. i want you to watch this from a local news crew from wsaz the local nbc affiliate there. their crews are interviewing a man about what he saw happening. watch what happens as they talk to him. this is incredible. >> we're standing down on the riverbank when we saw the train explode.

well, a car explode. and it showed up a mushroom cloud about as high as those plume is now, like that. >> continue this in a second. did you get a picture of that? man, that's high. >> incredible footage from wsaz in west virginia. reuters is reporting tonight that nine of ten of the oil cars on the train exploded one after another, at intervals of about half an hour. 24 is not is in the middle of nowhere, right? people live quite near the railroad tracks. one local resident named ruthy willis collins took this video from the vantage of the catholic

church in west virginia. you can see people live all along these tracks. a reporter pointed out this explosion happened on the same train line as the crash of another train last year over the state line in virginia. same line same route, same track, some kind of trains. that train that blew up in lynchburg, virginia last year was carrying bakken crude oil heading for the same storage facility. that was april last year when that train exploded and sent those rail cars into that river in virginia. now it's west virginia. we've seen a long and lengthening string of these derailing, exploding oil trains. just in recent history, right? there's the run away oil train that crashed and exploded and killed 47 people in canada in 2013. a few months later, most of castleton, north dakota fled the explosion when an oil train crashed and exploded there. there was that crash in lynchburg lynchburg, virginia, last year.

there was a crash today along the same line in west virginia. the federal government has been considering new standards for older tanker cars to try to make them safer. even if those new standards get approved, the rollout is expected to take 20 years. meanwhile, in places like west virginia reporters have been asking for information about the oil trains that have been moving through their communities. you know what? every once in a while, it gets hard to keep that information under wraps. every once in a while, an oil train goes off like a giant bomb in the middle of places where people live and that is something that everybody can see. joining us now is randy fits fitswater. this is the view from his house today in boomer. mr. fitswater, thank you for joining us. >> thank you for calling. >> what did you hear and see earlier today when they train derailed? >> well my wife and i were

sitting in the living room talking and we heard a sound that sounded like a commercial jet airliner engine just roaring above our house. that lasted for just a few seconds. then we heard a giant explosion. and i got up and went to the window and i could see this fireball across the river. you're looking right across my front yard there at that video. and i thought it was an airliner that crashed. so i told my wife to call 911. she tried to call 911, but got a busy signal the first call. then she called back and said my husband thinks there's been an airline crash and the 911 attend i can't answerant says no, it's been a train derailment. we've had some other calls. >> how close is your house to where this happened? >> just across the river. we're on one side and the fire is directly across from us probably maybe a quarter of a mile. >> do you see these types of oil trains go through that area and

down that line frequently? >> frequently yes. there are some chemical cars that travel it, as well. >> were you evacuated at all today or have you been given any advice on what you should do because you are so close to where this happened today? >> there was an evacuation put forth, but my wife is disabled and it's hard for us to get out. and we're in the middle of one of the biggest snowfalls that we've had in quite some time. i just -- i just made a decision that i didn't think it was necessary to leave. so we stayed here at the house and, luckily, we're okay. >> randy fits water in boomer west virginia good luck to you and your wife and thank you for helping us understand what this was like for you. >>. >> thank you. mr. constantino, thanks for joining us. >> here at the scene, i'm about

500 feet away from the train. it's still burning into the night. you can see flames still shooting out from a couple of the oil train cars across the river. first responders firefighters arrive on the scene about an hour ago. the flames have been too intense for them to do anything up until recently. so they're looking at the train right now and there's no indication on when this fire could be out or how much of that crude oil has seemed into the canawah river. >> two questions that i have been looking for answers to tonight that you may know but i haven't been able to find one, do they know how many of the tanker cars have blown up or burns or do they know what caused the derailment? >> i'm not sure actually how many burned up. looking at the scene, it looks like maybe 10 to 12 tankers are just sitting in a burning heap on the other side of the canawah

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we are posting the whole thing online and we are excited to debut it tonight. there was one part of the interview that was so good that we had to save it for best new thing in the world. it started with a question from erin about falling asleep. asking justice ginsburg about falling asleep during the state of the union this year. and her recent admission that a glass of wine that she had ahead of that speech must have been the culprit for why she nodded off. >> i've got to ask you, by the way, everybody is talking about the state of the union. >> yes. >> they are saying you said yesterday that you were not 100% sober. >> oh, what i meant was that i had a glass of wine with dinner. and that on top of having stayed up all night, i was writing something, and -- >> so you're a bit of a lightweight, as we call it? >> i said i thought to myself don't stay up all night. but then my pen was hot and so i

couldn't -- couldn't stop what i was doing. and then i said just drink sparkling water, no wine. but the dinner was so good. and it needed to be complemented. >> what's more amazing here? first of all, the main reason justice ginsburg fell asleep at the state of union is because she had been up all night writing the night before. she said my pen was hot, so i can't stop. i can't stop and won't stop when the pen catches fire. so one, she was up all night burning up the pages. two, she was going to stick to sparkling water at her prestate of the union dinner. that was her plan. but the food was so good at dinner, it deserved no it demanded to be commitmentplemented with some fine wine. and when a deal demands to be complemented, justice ginsburg honored that demand. that was all before we found out who was to blame for not keeping her awake during the president's speech. >> that's a tradition that we --

we have dinner together before the state of the union. and it's usually justice kennedy who brings in a good california wine. david souter when he was on the court, he sat next to me. we do everything in seniority order, so -- and he was sensitive to my -- he could sense when i was beginning -- my head was beginning to lower. so he would give me a pinch. now, my colleagues i'm -- i think they're more reluctant. >> who was sitting next to you? >> justice kennedy on one side ask they gave me a little jab, but it wasn't enough. >> so little known fact david souter, best known for being a supreme court justice for decades, we now also know that

he was justice ginsburg's official puncher when she started to fall asleep at speeches. and learning that come on, that's the best new thing in the world. may we all good morning, everyone. right now on "first look," breaking news overnight a texas judge blocks president obama's executive order on immigration. 5 million people are now in deportation limbo. an absolute mess as an ice storm from oak tok to the carolinas heads northeast, even shutting down the federal government. and an incredible scene in west virginia where an oil train derailed and explodes causing an environmental nightmare. plus this cyclist, lance armstrong, ordered to pay $10 million. a dicey situation in the parking lot of a piggly wiggly and