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england. it's all they've been talking about on the news. check out the local news story on the snow. >> shattering records across the state. the snow just keeps oncoming. mayor marty walsh said this is a nightmare. i haven't slept in 48 hours. school superintendent richard king said we've had to cancel school for several days and there's no end in sight. fifth grader billy doyle says, this is the greatette etteettest f.ing

week in my life. >> i wanted to cry when i saw the beautiful snowflakes outside my window this morning. i just wanted to cry. >> you had to drive in on it. >> i want to talk about it all while you were sleeping last night. a federal judge actually blocked barack obama's immigration executive order. we're going to talk about that a little bit. the "wall street journal" headline leads with egypt really getting involved. the egyptian leader now asking the united nations to get involved. mika, you see this story. lies still haunting lance armstrong. it cost him $10 million. >> sounds like he's still pushing back. >> cost him more. still wants to do drugs. ike and i talked about this on "way too early." "snl," funny except when it

wasn't it wasn't. but, mike there was some magic moments. >> it was addictive. 3 1/2 hours of addictive television. >> even when it wasn't funny, you kept waiting for the funny parts to come and they always came. >> they always came. i loved jerry seinfeld's q and a with the audience. larry david was funny what i forgot was how many people went through there and didn't necessarily succeed on snl but went on to be mega stars in comedy. >> it was fun. >> in this ellis stanley article there is a link to some of the auditions of the stars who didn't make it. jim carrey post apocalyptic elvis, hilarious. financial times leading with athens ejecting the eu demands. they have every right to be as irresponsible and reckless with their money as they want to knowing that europe will always bail them out. hopefully europe will kick them out sometime soon.

this important for mike barn anythingkl and me for many reasons. the "new york times." up to 14 years of hot flashes found in study. yes, that's correct. hot flashes can last for 14 years. i suppose i owe my father an apology. >> really? >> because he always blamed hot flashes on fights inside the house. we said dad, you've been blaming hot flashes for 25 years. it's time to get passion itt it. this study suggests he may have been right for two-thirds of the time. >> oh, my god. >> the new york post the pope coming out really strong and calling this these terrible murders, what they were murders against christians targeted at christians. i'm not being ideological. the president though embarrassing himself by continuing -- continuing to

focus when muslims are killed in america, he brings up faith. when christians are specifically targeted, he won't say it. and we get some language that is really striking. it's ciarazy. anyway, they have -- they have a plan in mind i suppose. i just don't know what ths. i'm not exactly sure why he's trying to escape the reality of what this group is. we're also going to get a follow-up on copenhagen and the american sniper trial update which is incredible story. but we begin this morning with the fight against isis. after the release of a new video purportedly showing the beheadings of 21 egyptian christians. egypt's military retaliated on monday with a series of air strikes against isis targets in libya. now egypt's president is calling

for a u.n. resolution mandating international intervention against the terror group in libya, asked of his own military would act again, he said quote, we need to do it again. and all of us together. pope francis is also speaking out, condemning the killings and calling the 21 egyptians who were executed, quote, martyrs who belong to all christians. meanwhile, the leader of hezbollah in lebanon said for the first time monday the group sent fighters to iraq to combat isis. he urged america's allies in the region to instead align with hezbollah in fighting the islamic state. new polls show americans are growing more skeptical of president obama's leadership in the fight against isis. 57% disapprove of the way he is handling the terror group. that is an 8 eight-point jump since late september. six in ten believe the military action is going badly. 41% say it's going well. nearly 80% think congress should

give president obama the authority to fight isis. and the poll points to the growing support for sending american ground troops into the battle zone. 47% support the idea of putting u.s. boots on the ground. that's up from four points from november while the percentage of those opposed to it tick down by five. >> i want to follow up. first of all, what do you think of the poll numbers? >> i think it makes sense. the videos certainly are a big part of those poll numbers. >> right. >> but i also -- i actually think that it's good that the nation is really getting around something that needs to be done. >> i think part of the problem, mike and i'd love pushback if you think i'm wrong, a lot of americans, especially in the middle are -- conservatives will be critical of the president. liberals are going to defend the president, the ones ss on the extremes reflectively. this guy won't call this what it

is. and he -- you know calls isis a jv team. >> that's old. i know. but you keep bringing it up like he said it yesterday. >> you say it's old but he continues to -- >> do you want me to bring up axis of evil? do you want me to start bringening up words that's not productive. i totally disagree with the use of those words but he said it a long time ago. what is he saying lately? >> what he's saying lately. yoo do you remember do you remember the shooting of jews gunned down many paris? the president said to the paris shootings, he said they were -- they randomly shoot a bunch of people in a deli in paris. >> after the socialist leader of france called it radical islamic extremism. >> it's radical islamic extremism. it was antisemitism. they went to a kosher deli. they gunned down jews. and the president calls that a random shooting. we're not just picking this out of thin sar. when christians are targeted the pope can call it what it is.

it's an assassination of christians because they're christians and they vow killing more christians. we had graham wood on yesterday who said you got to call this what it is. american leaders are making a mistake because it's like -- it's like saying that the nazis weren't radical nationalists. >> right. >> i don't understand, mike what's he trying to get at? what's he trying to avoid? >> roger cohen has a good piece on this in the "new york times" op-ed page and it deals with the fact that vagueness undermines what's going on in the middle east. >> why search warrantis he being vague? i'm not saying this as a republican. i'm not saying this as conservative. why won't he call this who it is? by the way, arabs in the middle east call this radical islam. >> i understand that. >> why won't the president? >> i don't know why. i strongly suspect that there must be some sort of a strain of psychological counseling coming

from the cia, the state department having do to do with the language employed in reacting to all of these things. but i don't know. i don't know. the poll numbers -- >> i have a theory. it wouldn't be the cia. i think, listen the public will support a war they believe you can win. i don't think the president thinks that he can defeat an ideology. i think that's why he refuses to call it -- and, you know among the politically correct of which i know about half of one person you know there is a debate about whether you call it radical islamic extremism. >> but that debate is only happening in america. it's not happening in the middle east. >> it's not a the socialist leaders of europe. "the new york times" calls it -- we have a president more politically left than "the new york times." i never thought i would see it. >> yeah. >> this is an important question. why is he doing it? what is the purpose of it? >> what's the purpose of your questioning every word he said about them because it's not like

he's asking congress to play parcheesi with them. >> he's having a summit on extremism this week. >> is that not important? >> shouldn't you call it what it is? >> beneath the surface of all this, it's -- i don't think you can measure. we can't measure certainly the amount of hatred there is and misunderstanding of the united states in that section of the country. what happened yesterday with the coptic christians being executed is the only way we're going to thwart isis. you need the point people in the this fight against isis has to be the big three, egypt, saudi arabia, and jordan. they are going to have to put a face on the opposition. >> here's the deal. people out there that think we're just pickier or i'm picking, i'm not. i want the president to succeed in this area more than any area because it's absolutely critical. it could be a generational war. what do we always hear?

what do generals always say? you've got to know the enemy. who is the enemy? who are you fighting against? who does this? why do they do this? they don't do this as the atlantic cover story says because they're just a bunch of sociopaths. they do this because they are islamists, radical islamists at the rouest most base form going back to the mohammed and the examples that they glean from mohammed and they are seeking, show this picture, they are seeking to provoke the world into armageddon end of times. they believe they areal la's agent for end times. now, does it help us to understand why they are carving off the heads of 21 christians? why they are burning alive jordanian pilots or do we want to continue like we're having a humanities class like boston college or having a seminar on

radicalism? know the enemy. call out the enemy. and guess what if you do that mike barnicle i don't give a damn about what right wringer erwinger or left winger or marxist professors. we need sunni arabs on ur side. we need to call out that radicalism and they will be with us. >> and there is no doubt, joe, that you were just talking about it what they seek what isis speaks is a evil apocalypse. the atlantic monthly piece about they want to have the final -- >> apocalypse based on their reading of the koran. >> i mean they see -- >> let's take it back to religion. >> that's what it is. they're reading the koran. >> question for joe. >> but they are seeking literally an apocalyptic end of world battle. >> i get that. >> they now control territory occupied by over 8 million

people. >> question for joe. >> yes? >> what do you think he should be saying? you do understand that words have a massive impact as they reverberate around the world and there have been times, difficult times, where president has misstepped because of the wrong words used. what should he be saying? >> this is radical islam. we're fighting radical islam. we're fighting a group of people that have the most fundamentalist base reading of the text of the koran and they are seeking a religious end to the world. their vision of arm bed sdpln with in what context should he be saying that? should he be surrounded by certain members -- >> when 21 christians have their heads carved off say they were killed because they were christians. when jews were shot up in synagogue synagogues, say antisemitism is sweeping across europe. when islamic radicalism account for the majority of terror attacks over the past 15 years, say that. not because you're hammering

islam but because -- because muslims are saying the same thing. i guess, mika the more important question is why is he not saying this? why is he trying to put a smoke screen over the truth? what is he afraid of? >> let me ask you. off of that do you think at one level of the discussion about what the president is going to say when he appears in public and says something, do you think there is the discussion about language in terms of the we say this we have the saudis and we have the egyptians and we have the jordanians sort of coming our way. so don't say this because we don't want to put them in a tough position. >> no because they all agree. they call it islamic radicalism. they call it islamic extremism. >> they can do that. we can't. we're the crusaders. >> we can, actually because it's what it is. and listen i'm from pensacola, florida. when a long time ago, when christians blew up i think it was an abortion clinic on

christmas day, they said they were giving a gift to baby jesus. do you think the news media stayed away from that? oh. no they identified them as christians. >> news media isn't staying away from this. he's the only person not calling it radical islamic extremism. "the new york times" calls it radical islamic extremism. they all call it what it is. i think it's becoming embarrassing. when you stand at prayer breakfast and talk about the horrors of the crusades -- >> that was a mistake. >> that was a mistake, i'll say. sounds ridiculous. >> he does. anyway. why don't we move on. we've discussed -- we've discussed this enough. but you do need to know your enemy. the president and everybody in the white house should read the cover story of "the atlantic monthly." this is not about bashing islam. the only way we win, the only way we beat isis is by having

sunni muslims beat isis. we can't do it. we shouldn't do it. we will help them to that end, but you need to understand this is about radical islam and we need to have the billion plus muslims that don't want their religion interpreted and viewed this way to step up and they are. read what the ambassador from the uae wrote today in politico. >> we have a lot of areas in the show we can talk about this more in must read. i think it's a fascinating conversation. moving on now we turn to the attacks in copenhagen. new this morning danish media, a friend of the suspect reports he created a facebook page that carried a pledge of allegiance to isis prior to the attack. joining us now from copenhagen nbc news correspondent kelly. what else are we learning about the shooter at this point? >> well, he was born to palestinian parents who were born in denmark, 22 years old.

described by friends who knew him through thai boxing as a nice guy, a normal guy with a good heart and loyal to his friends. these friends say they just can't see in the man they knew someone who would carry out these kinds of attacks. but there's yet another picture emerging. a picture of a hardened violent criminal. he served 15 months reportedly in prison for a stabbing on a commuter train. one of his court appearances, a reporter who we spoke to said that he watched him and he saw a man who appeared to be very hardened shaved head pockmarked with scars. but in no way religious. in fact, he almost seemed the opposite. the question becomes, when was he radicalized. and there is a report in local media that at one point during his stay in prison prison officials noticed a change in him, a change so dramatic that

they felt it necessary to talk to intelligence services about it. they made that report to intelligence services approximately intelligence hearsay they were aware of him when he was released but no reason to believe that he was planning any sort of attack. mika? >> kelly, thank you very much. still ahead on "morning joe" we're going to talk about lance armstrong back in the news. i don't get him. i don't get him. chris christie may be going to new hampshire. we'll get a live report on that west virginia train crash that sparked a massive fireball. plus, the mayor of chapel hill joins us to talk about the deadly shooting of three muslim-american students in that city. do officials still believe it stemmed from parking dispute? also ahead, one group narrows down the list of applicants for a trip to mars. the only catch, it's a one-way ticket? >> oh, no. >> do you want to go to mars? >> let's go. >> you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.

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barnicle said braveness undermines the jihadists. more than 13 years after al qaeda attacked the u.s., trains have blown up in madrid london beheaded "charlie hebdo," we july and now denmark. this is not the work of, quote, a dark ideology. this is the work of jihadi terror. the "wall street journal" weighing in this morning. i think from the left and the right. i don't think there this is a left/right issue. there are people high up in the president's administration who disagree as well. this is not a democratic or republican issue. this is a barack obama issue that confounds a lot of people very high up in his own administration. >> i would like to hear more from backing up his point of view on it because i think it's a fascinating conversation as we're trying to move forward on this. 27 million americans are waking up to winter storm warnings this morning. a total of 60 million have been

affected by snow and ice. massive amounts. and now the winter storm that pounded the south is stretching to the northeast. >> and driving in i know your commute in had snow. i had snow. >> i wanted to cry. i'm so tired of it. areas from missouri to virginia have already been hit with more than six inches of snow. roads are covered with ice. and governor of tennessee has declared a state of emergency to allow the national guard to help stranded drivers. we've got video from virginia that gives you a sense of how slippery the roads are. >> this is rough. >> a news crew was rolling. >> oh! get out of the way. >> okay. too close for comfort. >> move the camera. >> oh, come on. move the camera. >> move the camera. >> when an suv careens out of control and crashes into a car, stopping just inches oi way eses away from a live camera sitting alone on the road. they do that. okay. the storm is now sweeping through the mid atlantic closing schools and federal offices in washington, d.c.

forecasters say it's headed to the northeast where boston is already being pushed to its limits. nbc's myiguel almaguer has the latest. >> reporter: a region buried in snow is crippled in ice. >> it's unbearable right now. >> reporter: the windchill dipping double digits below zero across much of the northeast. the arctic blast setting record lows from maine to new york. in boston where it felt like negative 26 -- >> it's incredibly cold. you can barely see over the mountains of snow. >> reporter: insult to injury. nearly 100 inches of snow in just three weeks. residents digging out any way they can as fast as they can. >> digging a tunnel to get the snowblower out and work our way out. >> reporter: mass transit is crippled. trains running on limited service. what isn't moving is frozen solid. >> as boston digs out i ask everyone please still remain

patient and calm. >> mike look at this tweet from jim cantore. he went to fenway. the snow is higher than the right field wall. >> yeah. >> oh. >> this stuff we're getting today, this is baby stuff. one to three inches bring it on. this is like springtime. >> you stop. >> stop it. pole particular vortex. >> i was talking to mike on the phone yesterday. why is it this cold? because it's february. you said back to me the worst you've ever seen. other than -- other than the year leading up to the revolutionary war. >> this broke a lot of the -- >> joe, i was at valley forge. it was colder than today. the snow in the last three weeks in boston is something i've ever seen before. the back-to-back-to-back blizzards. >> the amounts. with where do they put it? >> you match that with just frigid temperatures. it is just absolutely miserable. less take a look at the morning papers.

the "los angeles times," dozens of passengers at l.a.'s lax airport ran from the terminal on to the tarmac on monday after an unidentified person publicly announced there was a man with a gun. the incident happened after officers responded to reports of a suicide attempt outside one of the terminals calling screened passengers to run through emergency exits on to the airfield. those passengers were then monitored by police and moved back into the terminal. >> not fun. >> no. "dallas morning news," lance armstrong lost a $10 million lawsuit, fallout from his doping scandal continues. arbitration panel says armstrong has to pay a dallas-based sports promotion company bonuses he got when he won three tour de frances between 2002 and 2004. a few weeks back lance armstrong, mr. wonderful, admitted to the bbc if he had a chance he would use drugs again. okay. two more stories to get to because we've got to get to the

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let's bring in "time" magazine joe kline from must reads. you wrote a fascinating column about this article about this some time ago after being in the middle east about the vagueness that roger cohen criticizes. you also very critical and say that are deeper problems here. >> yeah there are deeper problems. there have been problems from the start. george w. bush in 2011 said that our enemies were those who funded terrorism and those who

harbored terrorists. well who are they? the saudis funded terrorism and the pakistanis harbored terrorists and those were our allies? they're still our allies? and more -- more recently the president, especially in his dealings with egypt, he is slow walking aid to the cc government and those guys are actually fighting isis. >> bombing isis and fighting isis. >> they're fighting them in the sign sinai. and the cc announced that hamas was going to be considered as terrorist organization. i mean, the guy is on our side. he also gave a major speech on january 2 nnd which he called for an islamic reformation against radical islam. >> in your last column you were talking about the intentional vagueness that roger cohen criticizes in the "new york times," wall street jerusalem is criticizing but you say it causes bigger problems and up sets you because this is actually a war of civilizations

but the civilizations are within islam. >> yeah. i mean it's time -- look christianity went through 1,000 year dark age. islam has been going through a long dark age since the brilliant period of about 1,000 years ago. and it's time. cc and a lot of other moderate muslims are saying for us to cast out the bad guys who are misinterpreting the prophet. >> your piece, then continues this conversation perfectly, joe. with friends like these in "time" magazine, the saudi royal family is a source of stability in the region and under the late king abdullah it was a mild force for reform especially in education. but the saudi elites have funded not just al qaeda but also radical madrasahs throughout the islamic world. the impact has been enormous. in the 1990s i asked schiutto in pakistan how her country has

changed in the past 25 years. i used to be able to go out on the street wearing jeans and without a headscarf, she said. i asked her why she couldn't do that now. the saudi, rereplied, immediately. a preference to the saudi-funded madrasahs. the taliban came out of those madrasahs just as a great many of the isis criminal s do now. >> and they got her. they killed her. >> they killed her. mike? >> joe where does this reluctance, do you think, comes from where that the president of the united states seemingly will not call this what it is what islamic radicalism, what leaders around the world are doing? does it have anything to do with -- this is not coming from the state department. my understanding is the state department internally is much stronger against this than is the white house. where does it come from within the white house? >> well, i think it comes from the nsc which is pretty weak and also there are a group of people, both at the state department and at the nsc who are -- who are humanitarians and

human rights advocates. >> why wouldn't they be the most mad? >> they're mad at general cc because he staged a couple and got rid of the muslim brotherhood and the muslim brotherhood is a milder form of the same kind of philosophy that isis has. >> but -- so are you telling me that we have egypt bombing isis fighting isis going to the u.n. against isis fighting -- >> we're not supporting him. >> -- fighting hamas and we're not supporting him because we don't like how he got in power? >> uh-huh. >> okay. george w. bush -- by the way, george w. bush didn't like the way saddam hussein held power. have we learned nothing from the last ten years, 11 years, have we learned nothing? >> what we should have learned is to be realistic about what these countries are and not

idealistic about what they might be. >> isn't president obama neither? >> well, he is -- >> nor is he -- i like when people go back to george w. bush. under this president the islamic state now controls territory inhabited by over 8 million people. iraq was stable. this president bragged about the stability of iraq when he assumed office. so to say that you know i like it when people lay this at george w. bush's feet. >> wait a second. wait a second. >> hold on a second. there's a ideology in both cases. in george w. bush's ideology he was woodrow wilson on speed. he wanted to take freedom to all four corners of the globe. he was going to end tyranny he said in his second inaugural address. that was outrageously idea ol call. barack obama got elected by being ideological to the other extreme. i'm going to bring troops home. i don't give a damn what others tell me. i'm going to brag about it. i'm going to say isis doesn't

count. i'm going to call them a jv team even after they're killing people and beheading americans. i i'm going to say they're a jv team wearing a kobe bryant jersey. minimize, mine mize minimize. >> last week in an interview with vox he said that petty crime represents a graver threat to americans than terrorism. >> he didn't say petty crime. >> he talked about how there were lots of other threats to america. >> there are lots of other -- >> heart attacks. i'm sorry, not petty crime. heart disease. >> this is a significant threat. but you've got to go back to first sources here. and the original sin was george w. bush's decision to -- >> the original sin was saddam hussein decision -- >> we're not going to fight the beginning of the iraq war here. >> it is part of it because -- >> it's a huge part of it. but -- >> but obama did the same thing in libya and coming home to roost now. >> in libya but also to understand this, republicans like myself have to take blame.

democrats like barack obama supporters need to take blame because we had dexter here and he said he had never seen anything like it. the transformation was radical. i'm talking about formerly great "new york times" war county now with the new yorker. now dexter is in argentina. do you know why? because he can't go back to iraq because it's gotten worse. >> dexter's in orargentina? you've i've got to go down and see him. >> fabulous story. >> incredible. >> here's the point though joe. i saw it this weekend on "meet the press" where a republican senator was blaming obama for what he did in 2011. a democratic senator was blaming bush for what he did in 2002. bush, ormal sin, but we all own this. >> yes we do. and actually let's lay it on the brits. it's almost 100 years -- it's

almost 100 years since those straight line borders appeared in the middle east. >> there we go. churchill. >> straight line border in the middle east. you know the people who live there didn't draw them. they're in the process of redrawing them now. it's going to be bloody and last for 30 years. and our role is going to be very difficult. >> that's an important point, joe. this is a clash of civilizations but it's a clash back in the middle east. and this is sort of a shakedown cruise where you're going to see the kurds assert themselves to the north, you're going to see the shia assert themselves to the east. and you're going the see the sunnis assert themselves to the west. >> i'm not sure there's such a place as iraq. >> there's not. >> i'm pretty sure there's such a place as kurdistan. >> joe biden was right in 2003, was it? 2004? >> always turns out to be right. >> what's that? >> do we do it -- >> no, he doesn't always turn out to be right. i love him. joe, i love you, but, no you don't always turn out to be

right. >> yes, he does. >> she really loves you. >> do we do dave ignatius. perfect storm in the middle east. i don't know if you're going to like this. mistrust between the obama administration and bejamin netanyahu has widened even further in recent days because of u.s. suspicion that the israeli prime minister has authorized leaks of details about the u.s. nuclear talks with iran. the decision to reduce the exchange of sensitive information about the iran talks was prompted by concerns that netanyahu netanyahu's office had given israeli journalists sensitive details of the u.s. position including a u.s. offer to allow iran to enrich uranium with 6500 or more century funlgs as part of the final deal. iran policy isn't the only short-circuit between washington and jerusalem. the administration also fears that netanyahu is ignoring a potential new blowup with the palestinians. >> joe back and forth between the administration and netanyahu. netanyahu

netanyahu's people saying they were blocked from the talks, not being update fpd white house calling that a flatout lie. what's the truce? >> it's a flatout lie. the israelis have been very much -- >> you're saying netanyahu's people are lying. >> yeah. especially their security forces. you know i was there in december. i talked to a number of people. >> they're being updated. just to be clear. >> yeah. entirely. and, in fact the kind of hard line israeli strategy has been part of the greater strategy to kind of rush the iranians along. it's a vbl part of it. >> let's not assign blame because i probably know how this is going to go down. let me ask you, can you remember a time when u.s./israeli relations were worse? mike? >> no. bejamin netanyahu is the wild card in terms of our policy in the middle east. the ultimate wild card. >> nicolle? >> no. and i mean there are countries in the middle east standing closer to israel than we are which i'm not sure anyone

thought they would see. >> joe? >> the relations between george h.w. bush and the israelis was b very good. the bush administration -- >> james baker's quote. >> the bush administration was withholding money from the israelis to protest their settlement policy which is something that the obama administration has never done. i believe the bush administration was correct. >> we've got to go but let's get this up quickly. nicolle just brought up something about arab countries. one of the most fascinating developments have been arab countries, actually aligning more with israel. not afraid to cross hamas. not afraid to cross arab extremists. >> that was the piece i wrote two weeks ago. >> yeah. >> i did a lot of reporting out there. >> you did. we are seeing such a shake-up here. a lot of bad news a lot of headlines, a lot of beheadings. but there's a coming together in the middle east the likes of which we haven't seen. >> that's right. and the israeli, both the israelis and palestinians hope that the sunni states like saudi

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former new york yankees jason giambi is retiring. five-time all-star. one of only 20 players with 400 home runs 1400 rbis 1200 runs 100 walks. that legacy was tarnished by the investigation. one of the roids guys. i remember seeing giambi the year after he got off the roids. he was a little guy compared to the big guy. how is his legacy sorted out? >> he's never going to make the hall of fame because of the numbers. but he goes down within the baseball culture as one of the all-time great team guys. >> great guy. >> supposedly so. supposedly one of the all-time great team guys. >> that's good to know. "washington post" is out with new rampgings of top presidents. i love these lists. i don't know about you guys. i'm a list guy. i mean i get those rolling stone lists with the top songs. i always devoured them. abraham lincoln takes the top spot. the man who brought the country

back together. barack obama ranks 18th. john f. kennedy rated the most overrated presidential. >> come on. >> a ranking that surprises me. bill clinton comes in eighth. i don't know that that will be the case -- i'm not being snide. just wasn't a lot going on over those eight years, which some people -- a lot of political mess but not huge wars or great depressions. ronald reagan -- >> balanced the budget. >> yes. republicans did balance the budget. after he shut down the government. >> takes two to tango, joe. >> george h.w. bush number 17. scholars consider george w. bush the most polarizing president in history followed by barack obama. the post compiled the list from 160 members of the american political science association. you don't think much of this? >> no, i at's a faculty lounge list. you're funny. >> who is your top president?

>> roosevelt, franklin. >> yeah. >> literally, i think saved the country i really do. in this atmosphere he would have been i'm beached. he died to the country on manners in war and peace. >> if people had found out about xwlit the the string of girlfriends. and -- >> nobody cares about that. >> i don't care about it at all. i think he was a -- >> the press ruined the presidents. >> fdr -- >> feisty group. >> lincoln. they got that right. >> joe, is that what you think? >> lincoln number one? >> roosevelt, fdr number two, washington has to be up there. >> john adams. five? >> lincoln, fdr, and with no apologies i put reagan up there. yeah. i mean, you look back at the roosevelts and you see what fdr did. breathtaking. >> can you imagine what twitter would have done to fdr from december 7th through the end of

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21st century. >> is that the guy from "dukes of hazard"? >> something like that. >> we're going to go to heavy news now. >> i did watch "dukes of hazard." >> good. >> boston globe, it's snowing. the new york post is very interesting. the pope's rage over what happened. the christians. the "wall street journal" talk -- the "wall street journal" talking about -- here give me the ""new york times"." "wall street journal" talking about egypt stepping forward as the real leader calling overnight for the united nations to get involved. most importantly for mike barn barnicle and a lot of people here this news story that mika found interesting. that a new long study shows, mika, that hot flashes can last up to 14 years. >> are you kid meg? >> 14 years? >> yeah, i loifd it.

>> really? we all are. >> i'm not afraid to talk about it. >> you know i think there's a whole thing about male menopause we need to talk about. okay? do you want to talk about hot flashes, at least we get it out of our system and express yourself. >> i could use some hot flashes. >> really? >> 14 years, that's a big story. >> like a lifetime. >> we need to do a health segment on that. i'm serious, as we laugh, it's not funny. >> let's talk about obviously a lot of serious news out there, especially again as i said last night, egypt, of course after the bombing now asking the united nations to get involved in libya. all right. after the release of the new video purportedly showing the beheadings of 21 egyptian christians, egypt's military is retaliating with a series of air strikes against isis targets in libya. now egypt's president is calling

for a u.n. resolution mandating international intervention against the terror group in libya, asked of his own military would act again. he said, quote, we need to do it again and all of us together. pope francis is also speaking out condemning the killings and calling the 21 egyptians who were executed quote, martyrs who belong to all christians. meanwhile, the leader of hezbollah in lebanon said for the first time monday the group sent fighters to iraq to combat isis. he urged america's allies in the region to instead of aligning with hezbollah in fighting the islamic state. and new polls show americans are growing more skeptical of president obama's leadership in the fight against isis. 57% disapprove of the way he is handling the terror group. that's an eight-point jump from late september. >> joe kline, what do these numbers say to you, anything? >> people are get impatient with a difficult, complicated situation.

i mean i'd like to mow what more we could actually do. >> call it radical islamic -- >> and we could do that. >> what do we do next? >> we could do that bull then what next? these guys have to -- you know, the nations in the region, the sunnis in the region have to provide the ground troops. and we can provide logistics, air power. >> who can do that? egypt? >> egypt is doing it right now in in sinai on the ground. >> right. >> who could do it in iraq? we can obviously prop up the kurds. who else can help us? >> iran. >> iran is helping us. >> yes. he says with a sly smile. >> no one wants to admit it but iran is helping us. i think it's probably maybe i'm wrong but i would just guess from before that one of the reasons isis isn't in baghdad right now is because of iran. >> i would say that that's probably true. i think that iraq has to help

itself. i mean. >> iraq has never helped itself. joe, you've covered so much. you saw the first goal forward. what do we hear in the first gulf war? look at the iraqi army they're the fourth largest army in the world. they are going to kill and wipe our gliuys out. blah, blah blah. they dissolved. like sugar in the hot water. we heard about the chemical weapon. they dissolved. what happened in 2013? they dissolved. 2014, they dissolved. there is no iraqi army. there never has been an iraqi army that's stable and there never will be, right? >> yeah. but the problem is that every time we go in and talk an action including libya, we screw it up. there's tremendous resentment against western imperialism, western intervention there, and it's a lost cause. >> mike? >> well, i don't know that it's a lost cause.

the frame of reference, the polls that just -- that mika just alluded to they're understandable but really they're meaningless because they're fed by pictures like this that we've been displaying that are on tv all day long and people are fearful. so, no i don't like the way the president is handling this. for more on how it's being handled, especially from our side let's go to the pentagon let's hear from nbc news jim miklaszewski, chief correspondent. jim, the sources are saying about the president's handling of isis, the crisis involved and his handling of isis his opposition of his handling of isis. within the pentagon what's your sense, who does pentagon think their allies in terms of fighting this are on the ground in the middle east? >> okay. first of all, the strongest ally in the region and you guys mentioned it earlier, are the person pesh, the kurds, fiercist fighters on the ground in the region.

unfortunately they don't have the kind of numbers that could overrun and defeat isis. the second ally there in iraq you would think would be the sunni tribe. if you remember the iraq war turned around when in the sunni awakening. when the sunni tribes decided to join forces with the u.s. let's get to this issue on iran. i don't think you're going to see the sunni tribes joining forces as long as iran. continues to conduct military operations inside iraq. not just ground operations withly mishwith ly militias but air strikes. the u.s. is flying air strikes while iran is flying air strike not in the same airspace but in the same country. the sunnis are never going to trust any kind of military operation that involves the iranians. that is the one issue that deeply concerns many in the pentagon right now. >> several years ago you told me you spoke to a high-ranking u.s.

intelligence official that predicted three years ago what is now happening in libya. >> everybody seems surprised and agas that isis is now operating in libya. it was about three years ago that a senior u.s. official and i sat down and we talked about the emerging terrorist threat in the region. now, this was about a year after moammar gadhafi had died. at that time al qaeda in the madgrav, five countries in north africa that includes libya at the center. this official said look al qaeda and the madgrav were licking their lips. they couldn't believe this opportunity had been laid at their feet. and so it was about a year later, of course that benghazi occurred. if you ask anybody who has been in libya recently particularly on the egyptian/libyan border they will tell you that as you

stand at the border you see isis wannabes rebels, coming into the country where they get training and isis-trained rebels heading back into the fight particularly in iraq and syria all at the same time. so there were indeed warning bells about isis in the region. >> quickly, i want to say something that mike is going to jump in. i want you to talk about the other prediction of the caliphate that osama bin laden could only dream about. >> that's right. at that time aqim was so strong in that five countries. now, they weren't taking over capital but they were taking over large swaths of ground that everybody thought, well, that's worthless but it concerned u.s. military and intel officials. and this official told me today, three years ago, al qaeda has the caliphate in the madgrav

that osama bin laden could only dream of. of course, there was a fear that the caliphate would spread and isis was no mistake either given the connection with aqim terrorists in iraq by the name of abu zarqawi and now baghdadi. there was a chain over the last five to six years that led to this. >> mik, for purposes of clarification, according to many reports that rou you read in the american mediation you would be easily confused into think that isis was a reincarnation of the ones invading poland. for purposes of clarification, how strong is isis in terms of numbers? >> in numbers, now the estimate -- it start oweded out at 10 to 15,000 now it's 20 and 30. no not all of those are seasoned fighters. they ended up as fodder really for u.s. air strikes. we should get into that too.

isis itself military lyily ask s. not that strong. they're just so wide spread. here's the issue about ground troops that have many people in the pentagon frustrated. you cannot take out isis without cutting off the head taking out the leadership. after the first series of u.s. air strikes, isis retreated into the cities. they've embedded in populated urban areas that air strikes cannot if reach because of the potential for collateral damage. military officials have argued you're never going to get at the leadership unless you put in ground troops. >> mik, thank you for being with us. appreciate you fighting the snow to get? >> spiking of the snow -- >> i'm the only one at the pentagon. seriously. ash carter his first day at work. the door is locked. >> don't tell on him. all right. he gets a snow day. >> all right. >> thank you. the winter storm that we're

talking about that pounded the south is now stretching to the mid atlantic and north east. 27 million americans are waking up to winter storm warnings this morning. a total of 60 million have been effected. this video from virginia gives you a sense of how slippery the roads are. an suv careens out of control and crash sbees a car and stopping right there by the camera. >> that was joe going to work this morning. >> exactly. exactly. joining us from washington nbc news meteorologist dylan dreyer. you are all over the place and everywhere you go, it is so cold. that's the story. >> reporter: i am so sick of snow. but i'm happy there are not four feet of snow surrounding me right now. we've got four inches. kind of just barely covering my boot. as you mentioned, it is enough to shut down federal office schools are closed today. i'm surprised the road has yet to be plowed. we're not really seeing a lot of

crews. it's a good thing everything is closed because eventually the crews will get out and clear the streets without people on them. here's the problem. once this snow completely exits we have a few flurries right now, brutally cold temperatures will start working in. we haven't been below zero in washington, d.c. since january 19th 1994. so we're talking 21 years since temperatures have been below zero. we are going to make a run at it friday morning. brutally cold temperatures. record breaking temperatures from the north down south are expected by the end of the week. as soon as i shake the snow i'm going right back into the cold i can guarantee you that. >> all right. be careful. >> dylan, thank you so much. greatly appreciate it. dylan talks about '94 and '95. there's the talk about debate on whether washington is a northern city or a southern city. after you get two inches of snow on the ground you get the answer. southern city. coming back to '94 '95, that's when marion barry said god

brought the snow he can take it away. let's go to texas where prosecutors are i trying to convince a jury of the man accused of murdering american sniper chris kyle and his friend is not insane and knew what he was doing. yesterday things became intense when the state pled the defendant's videotaped confession. here's nbc's jacob rascone. >> reporter: for several minutes eddie ray routh doesn't move. the jury hours the hour long recording the media ordered not to broadcast audio. when the questioning begins routh doesn't answer directly rambling about flying pigs and people feeding on his soul. but then he confesses he shot chris kyle first saying, quote, i knew if i did not take out his soul, he was coming to take mine next. routh describes the guns he used admits to stealing kyle's struck and try to escape. at least three times the investigators asked routh if he understands that what he did was wrong.

right, routh answers, yes, sir, he says later. at one point routh interrupts the interview to ask about his parents saying quote, i'd like to see them at least hug my mom one last time you know. and finally, routh apologizes saying, quote, i'm just sorry for what i've done, you know and we can work this out. and, quote, i guess i need to be doing more thinking in this town than hurting people. >> during cross-examination the defense established that the texas ranger who conducted the interview did not know routh had been diagnosed as psychotic and had left a va medical center only eight days before the killings. we expect to hear from medical experts later this week as we cover the trial. still ahead on "morning joe," live update on the situation in wetst vinlg vinlg where witnesses say a train crash explosion sounded more like a huge bomb going off.

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governor of west virginia has declared a state of emergency after a train carrying more than 100 tankers of crude oil derailed during a snowstorm with t least 14 of them igniting. nbc's tom costello joins us live from washington with the latest on this. tom, what happened? >> they've got a real mess. north of bentley, west virginia and fayette county. only one person suffered inhalation but thousands of people thought to be without water this morning. it was a massive explosion that rocked the west virmg virginia countryside monday afternoon. a single train car carrying oil had slid off the tracks and into the nearby river. soon fire consumed if the train, the nearby house, and an oil slick on the water. >> we saw a train explode, a car explode. it shot up the mushroom cloud

about as high as those -- where it is now, like that. >> fayette county west virginia. >> we did hear from the police. >> reporter: the breaking news quickly dominated the local headlines. 109-car train was carrying oil from north dakota to virginia. it went off the tracks near mt. carbon west virginia. >> some of the cars carrying crude oil spilled into the river. >> reporter: with oil in the river water treatment facilities downstream shut off intake valves and warned residents not to drink their water. people evacuated from the fire zone. many taken to a near blsby high school. >> we're able to operate our kitchen. we were able to store water before the intakes were off so we have enough that we can actually prepare and clean with. however, after this meal here that's going to cause a little bit of concern on the water situation. >> the fire itself intense, feeding off oil and giving off

tremendous heat in the middle of a west virmg virginia snowstorm. the challenge now, stopping the leak and assessing how much oil leaked into the river. >> it's a real mess. state and federal environmental teams are on the scene near mt. carbon. cxs railroad are working with the government to try to determine what caused the train to derail. it's possible heavy snow in the area played a role. back to you. >> tom costello thank you very much. all right. on to other news. back to isis. one day after egypt launched air strikes against the militant group in egypt, joining us now from washington nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent and host of "andrea mitchell reports," andrea mitchell. egypt is responding with military. what else at this point can anybody do? >> two days of air strikes by each jipt and these are the first military action taken by egypt against isis. so they are clearly feeling

threatened by this. but according to every expert that i talk to air alone will not deal with this. and this egypt doesn't even have that much air power. they have the f-16s, american-made f-16s obviously but this kind of strike will not deal with the civil war. once you have a civil war on the ground as we see, you know for four years now in syria, this is not going to get at the root cause. you've now got militias competing militias dividing up libya. 5 1/2 years since gadhafi's overthrow and nato left. we've seen the u.s. administration ignore as well as the rest of the world ignore what's happening in libya. the americans pulled out, evacuated the embassy in july in tripoli. the italians left yesterday. they were the last western power to leave. now it's up in warfare. it's wild west. >> it is the wild west andrea. and right now it seems the only country that wants to get into the fray is egypt.

joe kline said earlier this morning, though that the white house is deeply suspicious of sisi because of the way he got to power, but they're actually bombing egypt. they're calling for the united nations to get involved. what's the chance of a thawing of relations for the president to become a realist and line up with egypt against libya? >> well, you know they say that they're suspicious of sisi. that's certainly what you get from the pentagon. john kerry goes and sees sisi and deals with the foreign minister who is coming here to the state department. >> right. the state department is working on a good relationship there but what about the president and -- >> they are slow walking the spare parts that the egyptians need. by the way, and they are also -- it isn't just the air strikes in libya. the egyptians have been very much involved with ground troops on the ground in sinai where there is a raging isis-related

rebellion. >> that's absolutely true. sinai is you know, a major problem. look, they've lost the ability to counter those terrorists since the gaza war. that was what mubarak kept sinai relatively peaceful because sinai was such an important part of his legacy. and since then it has been -- since joining the muslim brotherhood, egypt lost traction in sinai and after what happened in gaza it became even worse. but, look the sisi government cannot on its own dooil deal with this libyan problem. they've had an ally quietry with the uae against isis. there was an uae strike never acknowledged previously in libya. but air alone is my point is not going to solve the problem. these militias are embedded. look at benghazi, look at all the warnings we've had over the years in libya. since the nato air strikes they

have not been in there and we have permitted isis to take hold. and i think it was really the shock of seeing 21 coptic christians lined up there. what is little known in the west is that there are 100,000 egyptians there. migrant workers. they have no work at home. they've gone to libya which has oil wealth untapped at this point because of the civil war that continues. and these egyptians are now being threatened by isis and the other militias to go after them as they did these 21. >> andrea, thank you very much. see you later on your show. >> you know i think mike earlier said there's no such thing as iraq. there's no such thing as libya, either, or syria or yemen. historically there's always been a syria but we don't know what the actual borders are. coming up last week the sister of one of the chapel hill students gunned down called it insulting and outrageous. that officials quickly blamed a parking dispute for her loved

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and now would you feel if you find out suddenly that your brother, his wife his sister were shot in the back of the head unarmed in their own home. yesterday we buried them three of them at the same time into the very cold ground. i don't think there are words to explain how that feels. >> that was dr. suzanne barakat last week on "morning joe." now to the latest in that shooting deaths of the three young muslim-american from chapel hill north carolina. the suspect is craig hicks. he's charged with three counts of first degree murder and one count of discharging a firearm in an occupied area. local police say that primary motive for the crime was a feud over a parking space. but questions still remain as to

whether the victims were targeted because of their religion. the fbi has opened an inquiry into the case to determine whether any federal laws were broken. joining us by phone is the mayor of chap pill hill north carolina mayor mark kleinschmidt. >> thank you for being with us. i wanted to ask you, to respond right after the killings, the morning after the police immediately said it was over a parking space. around this table we were saying it was premature and thought they should have at least considered the religion before coming to that conclusion. have thingsing changed over the last week or is it still being considered a parking space dispute? >> well, the reports early wednesday morning were what we knew at the time. i think it's unfair to say that we had actually reached a conclusion. it was as curious to us and concerning to us in our police

department as anyone as to the motives why mr. hicks would commit such a vial rent act. the information we provided was an effort to be as trans partparent as possible and that was all the information we had. the none the less we were not satisfied with that as a point of conclusion. and that's why immediately the fbi and other law enforcement officials were brought in to help explore what the true motive could be. >> i'm curious because when we had dr. barakat on the show several days after the shooting about 36 to 48 hour ss and she said the police had not talked to anybody that her family. i don't understand how there's an investigation into what could have been behind this without talking to the family. has the police talked to the family now? >> oh, they certainly have. we have spent a great deal of

time working with the family. in fact, just the other day our police chief sat down and spent hours with them, with just the family. and today the investigation continues. the fbi in their pursuit of evidence that could classify ultimately classify this as federal hate crime are investigating parallel literally at the same table, evaluating the same types of evidence as our local law enforcement. one of the challenges we have is that under state law in north carolina mr. hicks has been charge with three counts of first degree murder. a crime that isn't elevated in regards to -- in regards to hate crime status. hate crime question comes into effect whether or not a shepherd bird or federal hate crime violation has occurred and that's why the assistance of the federal government is so important.

and they were with us working with us within hours of the crime being committed on tuesday night. >> mr. mayor, what if any, is the background relationship between mr. hicks and three deceased people? did they know each other? did they confront each other in the past? >> the information i have about that is the same as the same information you have which is information coming from neighbors and family members who apparently ard very clearly knew of mr. hicks and his odd behavior in the neighborhood. and again, that is the source of the investigation that's going on now. there are police department along with the fbi, we covered a great deal of materials of which i believe ultimately will help us understand his motive. i don't want to get ahead of the fbi conclusions but i think we're going to be -- we're going

to be getting answers to that very soon. >> all right. mayor mark kleinschmidt thank you for being with us. greatly appreciate it. certainly it is good to see the outpouring of support for this family and their time. >> beautiful family. >> tragedy. beautiful family. >> great american family. >> a great american family. and you listen to what one of the young women said i think it was on npr prayer -- prior to the death talking about that and so inspiring. >> we should really keep them in our minds when we, you know, look at what's happening in europe between the islamic population there that hasn't assimilated and the islamic population here that truly has. up next from sea turtles and sharks to the rare giant panda. we'll talk to one of the ecologists to truly stunning wildlife footage. "morning joe" will be right back.

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movement. but now it's time for you to start your own. it's time to hit the road and take the conversation to the next level. >> we want to do that. we're going. to find women in america and to teach them to know their value and communicate effectively. so here's a look at what's to come. >> i think mika for helping moderate today and proving that on your show every morning that women really are the better half. joe is not denying it. >> it's an issue we have tackled in washington. >> do you think there will be a day in our lifetime where women are paid equally? >> i think government with can can help. >> a new poll shows that equal pay is the top issue facing women in the workplace. >> women have come a long way, but we still have a long way to go. >> it's hard to breakthrough when you have attitudes of elected officials that equal pay

for equal work is something they can't bother with. >> it's a 20% gap in what we feel we deserve. >> there's a shortage everywhere. >> in the pages of my book. the e growing number of working women, many at a high level, whose struggle to understand their value and communicate it effectively. >> when i was over the presidency presidency, they offered me a salary and i went home overnight and started to get really angry. so i came back to the board the next day before i accepted the offer, and i said would you have offered me that if i were a man? >> were you tapped for the job or did you step up to ask for it? >> it's a challenge that impacts the bottom line in every relationship, but especially at work where even today women still struggle for equal pay. >> even though it's against the law to discriminate based on gender, it happens all the time. >> they are paid far less than 77 cents for every dollar. i'm talking half. if you think that way, it will be that way. >> we live that way. >> know your value.

>> across nbc platforms we're starting the know your value movement joining forces with a diverse group of companies and hitting the road. >> as advocates for our spouses, as advocates for our bosses, our business partners, how about our friends? how about our kids? we are so fierce but when we make the case for our own value, we start to self-dep ri indicate, we depreciate and it's time for that to stop. >> helping women realize the value of what they do a pilot event in hartford connecticut, was a huge success. >> my value does not come in the form of a dollar sign, but my worth is better measured in the value i can bring to others. >> nothing could stand in my way u. i knew i had to be right here with you today. >> the the tour will kick off in april in philadelphia. these multimedia events will offer hands on tangible advice and women will be awarded the

opportunity in realtime to jump start their value. >>. so more on that to come. we're going to have announcements coming up. it's going to be fun. that was really great in hartford. you can follow the entire journey starting april 10th in philadelphia and moves to washington, d.c. in may. also on the website you can follow everything. we'll be linking them all together and tracking stories of really cool women. it's miss nbc.com -- msnbc.com. >> you are doing this sort of in your spare time helping women. >> you called her. >> when they asked me if i wanted to be r considered i called mika on a friday and you were negotiating three other

people's deals. you were doing a book deal for yourself. you run an employment center for women lucky enough to get your advice in your spare time. i don't think i would be paid to work here. i know i wouldn't have gotten the job at "the view" without your advice. >> what specifically did she tell you? >> i was appearing on this show and others because i enjoyed it and i didn't think i needed to get paid for something that i liked. mika of the first one that said you should have a contract. so i started to get paid here. >> know your value. >> because a guy wouldn't do it because he just liked it. >> i have learned from the best. >> we give them some coupons. we get free heat inside the building. >> and bagels. >> free newspapers. >> but it is incredible. and i have seen this time and time again. one woman after another will come -- >> she'll say hang on she's calling someone and negotiating

the contract. >> r for women without asking for anything in return it's incredible. >> thank you. i say no more. we're going to do five cities though. >> what are you look for? >> i'm coming on tour with her. we're going to do role-playing. there's body language to fashion to being able to communicate effectively working with your own intellectual confidence. five cities let's see if i can do it. philadelphia, washington boston chicago, orlando, so it's going to be fun. >> can i go? >> i need celebrity judges so why don't you come along. coming up next we're going to go to the scene of -- congratulations on that. more ahead. we're going to go to the scene of europe's latest terror attacks. keir simmons has new details on the gunman that broke overnight.

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welcome back to "morning joe." a snowy looking washington, d.c. they got. about four inches of snow last night. the snow is coming our way again. but you're not going to get slammed as much this time. >> it's terrible what's happening. >> you can handle that. it's absolutely terrible. a lot to talk about this morning. overnight while everybody was sleeping, a federal judge struck down or temporary halt to the executive order on immigration. he basically said 26 other states can go ahead and put the brakes on enforcing that. that obviously is going to be a appealed and we'll see what happens. also egypt's president wants to go to the u.n., wants the united nations to help out with what's going on in libya. that's going to obviously cause a debate. we have had two hours of really

good conversation debate over isis and the president's handling of it and what to do next. but we start this morning in copenhagen. >> we'll start there where the city is still mourning after a weekend of violence. a police spokesman estimated some 30,000 people turned out around denmark last night to commemorate the victims of last weekend's attacks. many held torches and candles during the gathering. dutch royalty and the country's prime minister were among them. the shooter who carried out the attacks is believed to be this man, omar abdel hamid el hussein. he was a a 22-year-old dane who the associated press reports was released from prison just two weeks ago. he was reportedly arrested for a knife attack on a train passenger 15 months ago and sources close to the investigation say he may have been radicalized while in prison. and as new details emerge about the suspected shooter, we're also learning more about the attack itself. here is amateur audio recording

of the moment he opened fire on the free speech seminar. >> yes, the turning point is -- why do we still say but when we -- [ gunshots ] >> an eyewitness says he was seen in this kick boxing video shouted al during the attack. two others are in custody. they are accused of helping him evade authorities. >> let's bring in correspondentkeir

simmons. we have been talking about what we learned about the gunman. please get us up to date and tell us about the emotional rally last night. >> reporter: yeah, it happened right here and i guess here what we have seen the last 24 hours is both the fear and the hope of people in denmark. just in the last few hours, there was a security scare that cleared the area here in front of the cafe, where you can still see the bullet marks. that's where the audio was recorded. here too, last night there was this extraordinary rally. the kind of thing that we have seen in the aftermath of paris, people coming together saying we need to stay united. then there are those questions about the suspect himself. there are reports in the media here that a facebook page created by him pledged allegiance to isis and there are

also reports from the danish intelligence service. it is confirming that it was sent information by the prison where he was being held that they were concerned about radicalization though the intelligence service here is saying they didn't get any indication that he was likely to carry out an attack like this. >> i wanted to ask you really quickly. obviously, after the paris shootings, you had the french government moving very quickly. not only taking some new anti-terror measures but also moving quickly to protect jews living in paris. i'm curious what the reaction is in denmark. this is a country that only has 3, 4, 5% immigrant population there, may not feel quite the necessity that the french do. what is the sense you're picking up there? do they understand that terror has not only come to them but may have to change some of their

policies? >> you know they have been kind of waiting for this i guess, in a sense, because they have their own cartoons their own cartoons that have caused unhappiness in the muslim world because of the way that those cartoons have depicted mohammed. so there have been those same debates about free speech here. in the cafe there, there was a discussion about free speech happening before the attack. so there are the same worries here and have been. by the way, joe, i was talking to the chief rabbi earlier today and he's extraordinary. what he has to say is that this is not just -- he says it wasn't an attack on the jewish people that happened. it was an attack on everybody and the jewish people. he says that if jewish people here in denmark change what they are doing, decide to leave the country and they are letting the terrorists win and are encouraging future terrorists.

so there is this two sides to it really. the one is that they are really still are frightened and are concerned for more attacks. but on the other hand the hope and the solidarity expressed at the rally last night. >> keir simmons, thank you for being with us, we greatly appreciate it. we move from that story to isis. >> all connected to an extent. after the release of a new video showing the beheadings of 21 egyptian christians. egypt's military is retaliating with a series of airstrikes against targets in libya. now egypt's. president is calling for a u.n. resolution mandating international intervention against the terror group. asked if they would act again, we need to do it again and all of us together. pope francis is also speaking out condemning the killings and calling the 21 egyptians who

were executed edd martyrs who belong to all christians. the group has sent fighters to iraq to combat isis. he urged america's allies in the region to instead align with hezbollah in fighting the islamic state. >> let's bring in chief pentagon correspondent jim mick la chef ski. egypt's leader is talking about going to the united nations. what is the latest there? >> well the obama administration does not a appear willing to embrace the current egyptian government and military because they feel that the current president took that job in what they think was a coup. if you talk to military leaders here, that between the u.s. and egyptian military has served the u.s. and the region there very well for decades. >> we understand from joe cline

that now the relations between the egyptian military and israeli military is closer than ever. >> that's remarkable, but quite frankly, the egyptians for years have kept the flow of weapons to hezbollah from going through. that was the stop point, the stopgap when muslim brotherhood took over that flow of weapons resumed and quite frankly provide ued some of the weaponry that was used in those most recent clashes there between them and israel. >>. jim, in reference to the pentagon's thoughts on egypt and the white house's thoughts on egypt, what would you consider to be the level of tension that exists at a policy level between policymakers in the military in the pentagon and the white house, the national security council? >> i don't detect tension because as military they know that the commander-in-chief, the

white house gives the orders and we just carry them out. i can tell you there's a higher level of frustration, certainly, that the u.s. military realizes. they can be providing the egyptians with more ammunitions and quite frankly, help them in their fight now against isis. >> how is the snow there? are you the only man at the pentagon? >> actually, the front door was locked earlier and people were afraid that ashton carter on his first day on the job would be able to get into the pentagon. this it place was deserted. but the door was open. there was a little bit of incident we're told and we hope that mrs. carter is all right because as she was walking around her husband's vehicle she took a 180, boom on the ground. people rushed to her aid, she got up some think she may have hurt her elbow. but what a way to start your new

job. >> oh my gosh i totally sympathize with that. >> that phone ringing was ash carter asking you to let him in. >> maybe it was. >> thank you, we'll be in touch. a federal judge in texas has issued a preliminary injunction halting president obama's executive action on immigration reform from moving forward. he sided with the texas coalition of 26 states that filed the lawsuit opposing the president's initiate i-s. the this morning in a statement the white house affirmed its belief the actions are lawful and said the department of justice will appeal the decision. president obama's immigration plan would offer protection from deportation and work permits to as many as 5 million undocumented immigrants. the first of the programs were scheduled to start receiving applications on wednesday. >> this is the issue that is

stopping right now, mike barnacle, the republican-led congress. an issue that's causing concern with many republicans in the senate and there is a battle now between senate democrats, house republicans, house democrats, over the funding of dhs based on this issue. i wonder if this judge's order might give a little bit of space so we can actually fund dhs at a time that isis is on the rise. >> you'd hope so but the justice department will -- the person who is in the most difficult position would be john boehner. what does he do? he has to get the funding through. >> you have to get. the dhs funding through. i don't care what the issues are. i understand the issues, but americans are not going to understand a head line

republicans block funding for homeland security. they are seeing headlines like this on "the new york post" and they are seeing what's happening in copenhagen and they understand the next terror attack might be in the united states of america. there's another way to handle it. this is very bad politically for republicans right now if they allow this to continue. maybe the judge gives them a breather. >> on to politic, chris christie is expected to hold a series of town hall meetings this year in new hampshire. raising speculation of a potential 2016 presidential run, speculation, come on. christie is no stranger to the town hall format holding more than 100 similar events in new jersey as governor. aids to the governor anticipate his direct style will play well. we did one with him. according to a survey christie trails jeb bush scott walker and rand paul in the key presidential battleground state.

walker is taking heat for a budget that slashes 13% across the university system. that's roughly $300 million over the next two years. >> i don't know if if you saw it but "the new york times" had to issue a correction about scott walker. blaming him for teacher pay cuts. it happened actually before he became governor of wisconsin. mike, i want to ask you about new hampshire. you know new hampshire very well. obviously, you grew up right next to it. spent a lot of time covering those primaries. chris christie, you get a national view of chris christie the bridge telling the guy to sit down and shut up, politico reporting that atlantic city may cause him problems. we have done a town hall meeting with chris christie we have been around him in crowds in princeton, very good in the crowds. i'm wondering if you think like

i think in these town hall meetings that chris christie may play well up there or do you think his style may not work? >> new hampshire is made for chris christie. >> yeah. >> more so than jeb bush isn't it? because george w. bush, absolutely pummelled in new hampshire in 2000 against mccain. new hampshire is more chris christie territory than jeb bush. >> it's made for him. because new hampshire is the ultimate retail shopping state. small groups house parties -- >> interaction, one-on-one. >> you're wearing a winter coat, you put it down there's a fire going and people start asking questions back and forth. it's perfect for him. >> and they are tough in the right way. it ain't iowa nice. people talk about how he's going

o to play in iowa but in new hampshire, they don't like bs in new hampshire. they want to get to know the candidates. they don't care a whole lot about ideology up there. there's a reason why live free or die is their slogan. they are no nonsense. >> you can encapsulate what new hampshire is in terms of the primaries in the words of the late great who ran for president in 1976 in the new hampshire primary and he once said he was in a barbershop and someone asked whether they would vote for him for president. the guy. said u i don't know i have only known him twice. >> all right. still ahead things aren't getting better for lance armstrong. why the disgraced cyclist is facing the largest personal sanction in american judicial history. plus an australian man

admits to drunk driving. >> he sawed off his arm and tried to stitch it back up. i mean come on. we'll see if that injury if you get a chain saw, hack off your arm -- >> it's actually true. that's next in morning papers.

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mike barnacle pointed out a column in "the new york times" and he says vagueness undermines brave muslims fighting the jihadi scourge. staff slaughtered, this is not the work of a dark ideology.

this is the work of jihadi terror. "the wall street journal" also weighing in this morning. from the left and right, i don't think this is a left jsh right issue. there are people high up in the president's administration very high up who disagree as well. this isn't a republican or democratic issue. this is a barack obama issue that actually con founds a lot in his administration. >> i would like to hear more backing up his point of view. it's a fascinating conversation. 27 million americans are waking up to winter storm warnings this morning in a total of 60 million have been affected by snow and ice. massive amounts. now the winter storm that pounded the south is stretching to the northeast. >> and driving in your commute had snow. i had snow. >> i wanted to cry. i'm so tired of it. areas from missouri to virginia have already been hit with more than six inches of snow. roads are covered with ice and the governor of tennessee has declared a state of emergency to

allow the national guard to help stranded drivers. we have video from virginia that gives you a sense of how slippery the roads are. a news crew an suv crashes into a car stopping just inches away from a live camera. sitting alone on the road the storm is now sweeping through the mid-atlantic closing schools and federal offices in washington, d.c. forecasters say it's headed to the northeast where boston is already being pushed to its limits. miguel almaguer has the latest. >> reporter: millions woke up across new england, the view wasn't pretty. a region buried in snow is now cripple ed crippled in ice.

the windchill dipping double digits below zero across much of the northeast. the arkctic blast setting record lows from maine to new york. in boston where it felt like negative 26. >> it's incredibly cold. you can barely see over the mountains of snow. >> insult to injury. nearly 100 inches of snow in just three weeks. residents digging out any way they can, as fast as they can. >>. they get. the snow blower out. >> mass transit is crippled. trains running on limited service. what isn't moving is frozen solid. >> i ask everyone o to continue to remain patient and calm. >> mike barnacle look at this tweet from jim cantore. he went to to fenway. the snow is higher than the right field wall. >> this is like springtime. i was talking to you yesterday

on the phone. he's like why is it this cold? because it's february. you said back to me the worst you have ever seen. other than in the year leading up to the revolutionary war. >> i was at valueley forge. it was colder than it is today. but the snow in the last three weeks in boston is something i have never seen before. the back to back to back blizzards, incredible. >> unbelievable. you match that with just frigid temperatures. it is just absolutely miserable. >> let's look at the morning papers. "los angeles times," dozens of passengers at lax ran from the terminal on to the tarmac on monday after an unidentified person publicly announced there was a man with a gun. the incident happened after officers responded to reports of a suicide attempt outside one of the terminals causing screened passengers to run through emergency kpiltexits on to the

airfield. those were moved back into the terminal. >> not fun. the dallas morning news, lance armstrong lost a $10 million lawsuit, it's the fallout from his doping scandal continues. armstrong has to pay a dallas promotion company bonuses he got when he won three tour de frances between 2003 and 2004. lance armstrong admitted to the bbc that if he had a chance he would use drugs again. two more stories to get to. we have to get to the drunk driving story. but first, "the washington post," 100 lucky finalists are in the running for an exclusive one-way trip. a dutch nonprofit has those looking to venture to mars. 100 people from 200,000 who originally applied. the finalists are broken down into 50 men and 50 women, 38 who reside in the u.s. the final four will take the

trip which costs about $6 billion and will require them to die on mars. >> they are not coming back. you're in a lottery for this? >> what if you're with the one you love. >> i would rather stay in a condo in boca than go to mars. >> let's see if you can handle this one. >> is this about hot flashes lasting 14 years? >> i'll handle that one. >> the australian man wasn't able to convince a judge that he had a good reason to drive drunk after cutting his hand with a chain saw. he called the e.r. and told he wouldn't be treated for ten hours so he sewed it up with a fishing line using gin as a pain reliever. he drove himself to the hospital where he was busted by police along the way. the judge said, quote, while i admire his tolerance for pain i do not his admire his judgment.

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welcome back. it's time for business before the bell. let's go to dominic chu. still no progress on the greece bailout? you have the greeks fighting the germans and the rest of the eu. how is this going to resolve itself? >> it's not right now, joe. that's the big deal here. investors are monitoring that. still no deal the finance ministers maintain no further talks unless greek leaders ask for an extension. that aid package is expected to expire. they could run out of cash by the end of march. so greece certainly a focus. international trade in and out of the west coast ports are in a standstill. a labor dispute have shut down over the weekend. the labor secretary is in san francisco to meet with dock workers and port owners and operators. the labor stoppages have affected 30 ports up and down the western sea board is and

billions of dollars of international trade volume. >> this is a story that's flown under the radar. i had somebody come up to me three weeks ago and said you have to start talking about what's going on with the west coast ports. the union contracts are coming up there's a stalemate, it's hurt ing hurting american trade. as soon as that get. s resolved, then we may have a dispute with east coast ports over the next year or so. >> this is a big deal because for right now if it does spread to both sides and both coasts it's a huge trade disruption. you're talking about trade right now in and out of all those ports, about 30 of them from seattle through l.a. think about all the imports that have happened. that's going to be a huge deal. that's the reason why everybody is following this so closely and why the administration is sending them out there to make sure everything is going well. >> we buy a lot of apple products. now might they be driving an apple car? tell us about it. >> so let's not throw fuel on

that fire just yet, but there are rumors and gaining traction after multiple reports say the company is work on an electric car initiative called project titan. this is a group of employees working on this concept car that's going to be like a tesla motors or something like that. we'll see that if that gain. s traction. >> dominic, thank you so much. we'll talk to you tomorrow. mika is taking her best selling book to a new level. last hour we announced a big five-city tour she's launching in partnership with nbc universal. she's now going to be talking about it not only across the country, but also she's going to be on the "today" show. she's simulcasting there talking about today's big announcement. do we have that? not yet? i know it's going to be really good. >> i'm eagerly awaiting it.

i'm on the edge of my chair. >> she's very good with my negotiations. >> she's been helpful to you? >> she has been helpful to me. she's been helpful to a lot of people. i don't know that phil griffin appreciates it but she has a lot to say. >> she's the author of the best-selling book called "knowing your value." it's a look at how women can get ahead with work. she's partnering with nbc universal and taking that on the road. >> good morning. >> this is kind of your mission in life know your value. it comes from a personal place. >> two places i draw from in writing the book and now spreading the message and going on the road and going around the country to get to women firsthand, being unemployed. i was fired and out of work for a year. i had had no voice. i had no way to put it into words. it was so difficult getting back in. women need the tools and the words to use. even when their stock is down. but then i had a pay issue.

i was found out i was paid a lot less than my male counterpart. i made every mistake in the book. 40-year-old woman apologizing for asking for the right thing. 40-year-old woman literally self-dep indicating herself into a conversation. feeling guilty about talking about money for herself. these are the mistakes we make. in these events around the country, waer going to go to philly, d.c., orlando, boston, chicago and do hands-on workshops with women giving them tangible advice as to how to communicate your value effectively. >> we don't have the vocabulary. >> we don't have the whole picture in mind. we're going to address that along with our partners. how you present yourself, body language, confidence, but also the intellectual part of this shs the data you bring to the table. how do you communicate what your value is? you start by knowing it. if you don't go in there, you don't know what could happen. >> the conferences are

accessible. sometimes you hear about women empowerment conferences and they are real big ticket items. >> these are different. those have tremendous value, but these are interactive workshops. the audience is going to be involved. we're going to have a competition where we're going to watch women on stage learn their value in realtime and be rewarded for it. we're going to jump start their lives. you can follow all these stories from city to city on our website that we're setting up. and we're going to really create an area online and around the country where women can get tangible advice and use it right away. >> what do you think is the biggest mistake that women make in the workplace? >> we apologize for everything. we al poi jazz. we work into a room and we apologize. you're lying. you're not sorry. second of all, you're undermining the begin.ning of a conversation. we don't feel it's okay to be aggressive. i'll tell you our bosses like it when we're aggressive about

something and we get the job done and we bring in a great client or tell a great story. why can't we be aggressive for ourselves? we have to find our own voice and do that in a way that works. that's what we'll be teaching women. >> it's a good point. often times woor paid to be aggressive except for when it comes to salary negotiations. >> i know it's a bad time. no it's not. >> you're always inspiring. i'm going to go ask for a raise. if you want more information on o the tour head to today.com. thank you. >> thank you so much. >> one of the favorite things -- i've always been following mika around as she's been doing these conferences. and the book tour hearing what women say to her, but one of my favorite studies that talks about the differences between men and women. a man always thinks he's worth more than he's really worth. women usually, as mika has found out, don't push enough like men do. there was a study out that

talked to third, fourth grade boys and girls. boys always overexaggerated their math skills and girls always underestimated their skills. women in nature sometimes aren't as assertive. there are, of course exceptions but this is something that mika is trying to fix. >> as you move along in age, you realize or you should realize, a lot of guys are just blow hards. women have much better judgment on so many other issues than guys do. >> i always said i ran a pretty efficient office. in congress i had five or six or seven people running the office. most congressman have 20 or 22. i had a lot less people we

worked harder, got more done and some people would ask when i went out and gave speeches. what's the secret? i said i usually let women run things. if you want people to sit around and talk about getting things done, hire a man. if you want to get things done hire a woman. >> how many guys do you know sitting there talking to them and suddenly it goes through your mind is this guy still talking? shut up. >> are you still talking? no, that's what we do. we talk way too much starting with this guy. andrea mitchell joins us straight ahead. she's talking about the crisis with isis with egypt, with libya and she's going to break it down with her latest reporting when we return on "morning joe."

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d.c., chief foreign affairs correspondent is andrea mitchell. egypt has responded by hitting isis targets in libya. what else can they do? >> they have talked to the u.n. the foreign minister has been in new york at the u.n. and is now coming to washington for this three-day counterterrorist summit. but really it's been air power that they have used two nights in a row egypt has been bombing the isis targets again overnight. and the terror group started this by beheading 21 christians on that beach in tripoli. a brutal attack that brought a rebuke from pope francis himself. >> reporter: on isis's latest beach head they paraded 21 prisoners from egypt, then beheaded them. this savage attack escalates the isis war into europe's backyard.

from the shores of tripoli, libya is a former italian colony just across the mediterranean from italy and it earned a rebuke from rome's most famous resident. their only words were "jesus help me." the martyrs belong to all christians. italy has called for nato troops to join the fight against isis. egypt didn't wait to be asked. revenge is coming, read this cairo newspaper, and it did. planes took out isis targets in libya. >> to work together and to ensure that such violent acts will not be repeated. >> reporter: libya further destabilized after gadhafi four

years ago and has a hot bed of terrorism. isis is filling the vacuum. >> this imogen lloyd webber'll the question is where is isis headed next. >> the threat is to the west from isis is not a small threat we will not see the end of the attacks. >> the obama administration has abandoned making them question whether this attack will shock the conscious of the west. >> andrea mitchell, thank you so much. what do you have coming up today? >> we are going to talk about this. reports from denmark and the horrors there. steve simon, who used to work at the nsc to talk about the middle east. we'll be talking about weather because it affects us here. looking at what happened in boston. and the pope the vatican has

opened comfort stations for the homeless. so ann thompson will tell us about all that. >> can i be on? >> mika of course. >> i just booked myself. >> the movement begins right here. >> thank you, see you then. coming up next, what do one of the best known fashion photographers, a supermodel and the head of a native american tribe have to do with each other? the answer coming after this video. ♪ ♪ ♪ we're on a mission, a mission for underwareness, a cause to support the over 65 million people who may need the trusted protection of depend underwear.

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exhibition that shows a forward projection. so many i have collaborated with i stopped for different reasons. >> how did you get connected on this project? >> i have known russell for so long. he told me about the story and the amazing seminole tribe and what he was thinking to do with this project. and i just really thought it was an amazing thing to be a part of and a different thing to be a part of. >> so you went in there and were photographed by james and tell us about some of these photos and what you did to really set the scene for them. >> we were on seminole land in florida, which was really cool. >> this is definitely not the swim suit edition. >> we wanted this to be a real

togetherness of two worlds coming together. so we wanted to keep the pictures true to nature and very no fashion, no nothing, just kind of see the beautiful land. >> so what did the seminole tribe get involved? >> in the pictures? i didn't try to get involve edd. he got involved with us. it's a good story since 1830s we got reduced down to 200 people. we have survived of about 4,000 now from 1830s until now. and hard rock has become one of our businesses. so we're surviving well and i u think you caught that spirit. we didn't give up. hanging in it there. >> did you trust him at first? >> he's got a trustable australian face. >> he wears flip-flops in the winter. >> we're not canables. he's too skinny.

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