right now, terror summit, the president speaks out against the isis threat as the state department launches an online campaign to counteract isis propaganda. >> as we speak isil is terrorizing people of syria and iraq and engaging in unspeakable

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track for one of the coldest februarys on record. ♪ good day, i'm andrea mitchell in washington. president obama told participants at the summit today that the world has to unite to defight terror groups like isis or isil. >> it's not a christian of jews or muslims, we're in the same boat and have to help each other to get out of this crisis. >> i'm joined by rick stangle, direct from the summit. thank you very much for being with us today. first of all, you're heading an office that is going to try to counteract the isis propaganda. there have been other state department attempts before you over the decades tonteract propaganda but isis is the most

adept shall we say of any of these terror groups at using online media. how can you counteract this? >> well andrea we are trying to counteract them and one of the things we say, they are not invincible on the battle field or information battle field. i think we were a little surprised about how adaptive they were and sophisticated they were in online media. we estimate that they do 60 to 90,000 pieces of social media a day, which is much larger than what we do. we're trying to increase volume by aggregating content starting this creating this new entity which the president mentioned today and its new head who we put in who represents a different face of the world for messaging. what i also tell people, while they are doing 90,000 pieces of social media a day justin bieber tweets a million a day.

>> the full force of military from the air, how do they have the space to work this effectively online? >> it's a very good question. we don't know all of the answers. the intelligence community, and we're finding out all the time how they operate. some part of the anti-isil messaging is the stricter more rigid part which is denial of service and platform. we're doing that as well as actually reaching out to the people as the president said today who are susceptible to the message and not involved. young men in particular who they are trying to isolate. we're trying to reach them as well with a different kind of message that says they are not what they are cracked up to be. the caliphate doesn't exist. they can't manage the land they are gaining and you shouldn't go there. >> well, at the same time, we see them now in libya, having enough territorial space and

co-opting the militias since the overthrow of gadhafi and enough space to execute 21 christians and see them now, they are spreading out and they were five miles from a base in northern iraq where there are hundreds of marines advising iraqi troops and five miles away they've taken over al bag ddhdadi and burned to death, 48 people. >> what i would say about that i'm not a general or military person -- >> understood. >> one of the differences between isil or dash then al qaeda, al qaeda was a nonstate actor. they weren't trying to accumulate land or territory. the fact that isil is trying to conquer land and manage it is an opportunity as a military force, it's easier to combat people holding land and trying to government it than it is to

combat people who are nonstate actors. i think that's an opportunity. >> do we know anything more about the english speaking executioner of the christians in libya who seem to have a north american accent? >> i don't know the answer to that. i would refer you to the state department or defense department or white house on that. >> and i wanted to ask you about the controversy critics saying that the president is being politically correct, parsing words and not calling the muslim extremism what it is and not calling it out. how do you respond to that? >> well i would say all members of isil are violent extremists but not all extremists are members of isil. the summit is about more than isil even though i isil is the most acute problems. the president and secretary talked about combatting violent

extremism as this generation's greatest challenge and of course the biggest part of that is isil. >> and i know you don't do politics, you're in the diplomatic sphere now, but i have to ask you about a prominent critic seizing on this criticism of this summit rudy giuliani last night at a republican gathering said i do not believe and i know this is a horrible thing to say, but i do not believe the president loves america. he doesn't love you and doesn't love me. he wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and i was brought up through love of this country. >> what do you say to that? >> i'm just sorry to hear that. i find it wrong in every possible way that could be wrong. i think the president loves the country in an extraordinary way. he's an american exceptionalist but with a slightly different attitude. what he said this morning, our job is not to tell you what to do. our job is to be your partner. that's a different division of power in the world and that is the vision for american power in

the 21st century. >> thank you very much rick stengel from the state department and summit. i'm joined by robert ford, the former ambassador to syria, now a senior fellow at the middle east institute. you left -- retired from the state department frustrated i think it's fair to say by the policy by the policy that led to a civil war where we were not being engaged as aggressively as you felt we should be. >> yes, we could see the extremism rising in syria in 2012 and 2013. and it's reached the point, i was just in turkey two weeks ago and met with some people from the syrian opposition there and they told me a story that i think is indicative of the problem in syria. one of the goal tenders of a major syrian soccer team joined the uprising in syria in 2011

it was peaceful then as fighting took off when the syrian government began to shoot and kill people and protesters responded to defend themselves this scorekeeper, goalkeeper then joined and became a commander among the fighting men. for two years in the city of homs they are surrounded by the syrian government and starved children starved to death. women starved to death. men starved to death. finally the united nations after two years of this siege by the syrian government negotiated a ceasefire and the people were able to leave. that goalie from the soccer team, has joined the islamic state. now the islamic state just killed children in iraq for playing soccer. why would he join islamic state? one of the people i just talked to just talked to the syrian goalie a couple of weeks ago. and the goalie said the world watched for two years while we

were bombed, while we were starved and nobody lifted a finger. nobody has any business now giving us lessons in civics and democracy. and that kind of repression has added to the extremism problem that we have in the middle east. >> that example is exactly what rick stengel and his new unit at the state department is going to be up against. how do you reach out to these people when they have seen -- these are people who are joining the islamic state from the opposite side. you in 2011 were pelted with tomatoes and had to escape as you were still ambassador before we closed the embassy. we have pictures ever your car escaping from the crowd, the apgry crowd there. >> it was a syrian government inspired mob, syrian secret police organized a mob to ambush us. >> and at the time people were stunned frankly by your personal

courage in staying as long as you stayed. but you finally left the diplomatic service because this administration in your view did not move and take a stand when it could have. >> i don't -- first of all i wouldn't diminish how difficult the problem in syria is. >> understood. >> but at the same time, inaction or too little action is a policy decision. and in the end, what we have seen is the rise of extremists. had we helped moderates who were in competition with extremists and had we helped moderates back in 2012 and 2013 not saying we would have had no extremism but we would have had much less extremism. at the same time watching the syrian regime pound civilians just as watching shia militia murder sunni arabs in iraq these things aggravate an extremism problem. so again, inaction itself can

cause additional problems. >> when you topple gadhafi in 2011 and then let the militias take over leave the embassy last july the americans evacuate, it's not surprising that the islamic state or whatever you want to call them isis or is il move in. >> in all of these places you have states who have ultimately weak because they are o oppressive they become quite brittle. the response to these sorts of situations is to bolster people who believe in politics and b, believe in reaching out to other communities and finding compromise solutions instead of trying to impose extremist ideologies. and that we needed to do in libya. that we have needed to do in syria. that we still are trying i think making a good faith effort in iraq in syria and libya, it's

much more difficult to be optimistic right now. >> and to counteract their online propaganda? >> with all due respect to undersecretary stengel and he's got a great team i know some of them, hard working people a lot of them are regional experts, but they are going to be fighting with an arm tied behind their backs because when a lot of young people in the middle east today in the arab world think of the united states they think of the prison abuse in iraq ten years ago. they think the guan tam mow, it's not an accident that the islamic state dresses up its prisoners in orange uniforms they are specifically reminding people about the americans and guantanamo experience. so it's much more useful to have im imams and those with street cred.

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today a federal appeals court heard arguments from accused boston marathon bomber dzhokhar tsarnaev's attorneys. nbc justice correspondent pete

williams joins me now. what is their argument for the change of venue. they've already done jury selection so -- >> jury selection is in process now, chosen about 51 of the 70 jurors according to the latest reports from the court. andrea three times the trial judge has said no to a change of venue. the defense argues that there's been such saturation coverage that the entire city was victimized and that they say based on what the potential jurors are saying in questionnaires, there seems to be a majority who think he's guilty and nearly half who can't set that aside and make an impartial judgment. it didn't appear today they were going to get the change of venue. the court seemed to be 2-1 against it and there's nothing that happened today during the oral argument that would indicate it's anything but a 2-1 against. nonetheless, this is the furthest the defense lawyers have gotten in the previous times the trial judge and appeals court has turned them down solely based on written

motions. at least today they got to make their argument in person orally. >> pete williams thank you very much on the tsarnaev trial. speaking of boston everyone in boston knows and so does more than half of the country. it is really cold. and the weather forecasters tell us there's no sign of any relief until the end of the month. sometimes though there's some beauty if all of this pain. for a look at that we turn to nbc meteorologist dylan dreyer at niagara falls. >> reporter: andrea it is extremely cold. we started off the day at 3 degrees below zero and this entire february in the niagara falls area we have not gotten above freezing. that's why we're seeing this absolutely gorgeous sight behind us this is the partially frozen niagara falls. the river itself freezes but the falls will never freeze because there's too much water rushing way too fast. you see the mist and water that splashed up from the rushing

falls, that creates these incredible ice formations and that's what we're seeing on the canadian side and american side as well. that is all part of the extremely cold blast of air that is originating in siberia and pouring down and affecting the eastern half of the united states. record low temperatures were seen in nashville, pa duke ka kentucky and ashville, we'll see colder temperatures by friday morning. 1899 was one of the coldest periods in united states history, we're going to crush some of those records by as much as 5 degrees. we're in an exceptionally cold period but i guess without the cold you wouldn't really have this pretty sight here at niagara falls. >> it's very beautiful from at least inside the warm studio. i don't know about poor dylan dreyer's location though. up next, politics. rudy giuliani's controversial comments about president obama. this is "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc.

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on wednesday night, former new york city mayor rudey julian giuliani criticized president obama, said in part i do not believe and know this is a horrible thing but i do not believe the president loves america. he doesn't love you and he doesn't love me. he wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and i was brought up through love of this country. joining me now for our daily fix, jeanne cummings and chris cillizza. managing editor of postpolitics.com. jeanne rudy giuliani was responding to all of the criticism of the way the president framed the isis debate. and that's where he took off at the 21 club in new york. >> it really -- it's a

remarkable set of comments although it seems like a continuation of the questions about obama's birth, certificate, et cetera. that one strain of the republican party has you know been quite stubborn about these kinds of issues. the thing i thought was really odd was he wasn't raised like you and me. what's the american way of raising a child to love its country? we're all raised differently by our own families that part was peculiar. and of course scott walker's silence in failure to say at minimum, i don't agree with him was also really striking. >> let me play rudy giuliani today on fox responding. >> he's a patriot, i'm sure. what i'm saying is in his rhetoric i very rarely hear him say the things i used to hear ronald reagan say and bill

clinton say about how much he loves america. i do hear him criticize america much more often than other american presidents. >> this goes back to the prayer breakfast i think. >> right, conservatives were upset comparisons -- they are broadly upset president obama won't say it is the work of radical islam, that he refuses to tie islam with what isis -- >> in fact president obama's language on this is almost identical to george w. bush after 9/11. there is an imperative not to give the radicals, the terrorists, the extremists out there, muslim or otherwise, the isis people, something to play with on fwittwitter. >> in president obama's remarks yesterday, that giuliani was in part reacting to we don't want to legitimize this group by saying they are acting under

religion. this is someone who at least for much of 2007 was seen as a very serious republican presidential candidate. he has become much more radicalized in his views. he made comments last fall about how young african-american men are murdered that were proven to be false. i don't know what he's got at. my guess is scott walker was probably relatively blind sided by this. but this is the sort of thing, why it's very difficult to run for president. because these things happen and you have to react well to them. i'm not sure he scott walker is there yet. >> he could have done what john mccain did in the campaign when a woman said that the president was a muslim and wasn't born in america at a rally at a mccain rally. excuse me ma'am, that's wrong. it was one of those moments where john mccain said you're wrong, he's an american he's not a muslim. he was born here. >> you have to be able to stand up to your own people own

supporters and say that's wrong. i want to play what the dnc chair debbie wasserman shultz had to say about rudy. >> a leader of the republican party said that the president doesn't love us, and doesn't love the country. in fairness, the mayor did clarify his remarks this morning on fox news naturally. what he said was i'm not questioning his patriotism. i'm just saying he doesn't love america like we do. i'm glad we got that cleared up. >> you know i appreciate the fact that walker could in all likelihood i agree with chris, never saw this coming. but the mccain experience shows if you know who you are and know what your bedrock messaging beliefs are, i mean mccain had heard people say it so he was a better prepared than walker. but he also knew what he

believed and was willing to at least express himself. it was very authentic moment for mccain. now, walker had an opportunity this morning to sleep on it and prepare for a follow-up question and his cnbc appearance this morning, he just said again, they are his views not mine and made no further judgment. >> quickly, rudy giuliani given his profile, can't be out saying these sorts of things if the republican party, from reince preeber to rand paul talking about we need to grow the party and expand the party, it is not helpful. forget scott walker particularly it's not helpful for the brand. >> it's the doneald trump part of the party. enough said. what they think the administration's approach you're watching msnbc.

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there's been a silly debate in the media in the last days about what you have to do. you have to do everything. you have to take the people off the battle field who are there today but you're kind of stupid if all you do is do that and don't prevent more people from going to the battlefield. >> secretary of state kerry today rebutting critics who say the administration is both sugar coating terrorism at today's counterterrorist summit to avoid offending muslims and paying too much attention to the community outreach. joining me from the state department is one of the participants president of the muslim public affairs council and in the studios, a senior policy analyst for the city los angeles who attend the summit this week as well. let me ask you first about

today's sessions. what you think is being accomplished and what about the criticism that this community outreach is too much soft power and not enough hard power against the terrorism we're seeing from isis or isil? >> i think the idea is hard power has been used for the last 20 years if not more and it can only get us so far. now it's a battle of ideas and narratives. and to do that we have to recruit people in our mosques and schools and institutions and let them feel they can carry this battle in terms of the ideas to show that the theology of life will prevail over the cult of death to show that islam is about constructive engagement and ininclusion whereas isis is about cruelty and exclusion to show muslims can be part of the solution because they are the ones that have the authentic voice to prevent young people

from getting lured into the trap of violent extremism. >> i want to follow up with you and ask you first about the pilot program being discussed to work with young people in schools in l.a. and minneapolis. what about suspicions in the community that this is a way for the government to do surveillance? do you think the government has enough credibility with the community? >> i think the government understands that there is distrust and that they have to make some changes to win the trust of the people. but at the same time the government is being very forthcoming about promoting a partnership program. if we want to push profiling out, we have to replace it with something. so for example, we have this safe spaces initiative which is a community-led program that is about prevention and intervention. and to intervene when we find troubled youth and that is the jurisdiction of the community. when it involves criminal activity we report it to law enforcement if we object people from our mosques who are

thinking about criminal behavior and doing criminal behavior it is the job of law enforcement. there needs to be a division of labor and that is how we will build trust within the communities. i find it interesting that we have conspiracy theories on both the right and left. the right says that islam is taking over america and the left now is saying that the government is taking over islam. we have to have that middle of the road approach and say let's work together. let's do away with these extremist conspiracy theories and come up with solutions. >> the government, administration has been criticized and president criticized for putting out a statement in the muslim students in north carolina were murdered before the police had decided whether it was a hate crime or what the facts of the case were but not putting out a statement right away about the christians killed in egypt. he almost can't seem to get it right on this tonal stuff. what do you think is going on here? >> first thank you for having

me here today. one thing i want to recognize, we're dealing with a very complex issue. there isn't a one solution. there isn't a golden answer unfortunately. it's certainly a balance and it's certainly a way that we can find the space for us to work across communities, to the earlier notion this is a soft approach the idea is this isn't the only approach. the reality we're dealing with is that we live in a pluralistic society and we as a collective society, whether it's government, private sector at the community level, we need to work together to confront hate to confront extremism. that is really the message of the terrorist. that is the message of people like isil it is promote sectarianism where we're trying to close these gaps. so the -- whether it's calling it the islamic or whether it's recognizing that it was the christians that were victimized the reality is everybody is

victimized and there certainly is a space for all of us to collectively stand together in all religions and to collectively say it for what it is. >> i do want to ask you about what happened after 9/11 when you were quoted by the l.a. times on a radio station as suggesting that israel should be one of the suspects for 9/11 if we're going to look at suspects with you should look at the groups that benefit the most and put the state of israel on the suspect list because this diverts attention from what's happening in the palestinian territories to go on with their aggression and apartheid policies. do you regret that statement? >> i did regret it and wasn't reported by the l.a. times but bloggers but in any case i've already made that very clear that that was an unfortunate erroneous statement and apologized to my colleagues in the jewish community in los angeles. we're working together. it was 15 years ago. this effort right now in terms of countering violent extremism

is not about israel it's not about any particular group. it's about all of us working together jews and christians and muslims against violent extremists. what i did was a hypothetical rejoinder when somebody said islam was the subject and 9/11 was committed by al qaeda. there were people who ugsed islam to commit the worst terrorist attack on our shores in the united states and we've been working since then and even before then in terms of countering that toxic narrative of violent extremism by showing that islam a religion of human dignity and terrorism has no faith or humanity. that's the message we have to work together on and move forward on and now move beyond what political statements were stated 15 years ago. >> and do you think the state department will be able with this new online office which is being expanded it's existed before, to counteract the isis

propaganda which has been so effective? >> the point is it's not about the state department. it's not about the government it's about civil society. civil society needs to be empowered to move with that message forward. we need authentic voices in communities. and those are the recruits that we will bring forward and we will amplify to counter the toxic narrative of violent extremism by isis. >> thank you both so very much. thanks for being with us. two people now are dead 179 people could be at risk from a possible exposure to a superbug at a leading hospital in southern california. i'll ask the secretary of health and human services about that and about enrollment in the president's health care plan coming up next.

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will you take a political hit sometime after april 15th when people realize that they do owe that money? >> so i think with regard to the issue of taxes, it's important to note 3/4 of all filers just check a box. then another large group of filers are the people who have had the opportunity to receive financial assistance and they'll be reconciling that like they do with taxes. those that are subject to the fee, for anyone who can't afford health care, they will be exempt from that fee. there are other exemptions that includes hardships if you've had a natural disaster in the year or if you've been homeless during the year. but for those folks who have not taken the personal responsibility and can't afford it, they are waiting for the chance when they have something happen then use indij ent care and that cost is spread to the rest of us. for those folks, there will be a fee. that is part of what will make the system work. >> now, of course you've got the supreme court challenge, the argument is going to be march

4th sometime in june we'll have a decision, the main challenge is that the subsidies should only be available to people on the state exchanges not the federal exchanges. why does the administration contend that subsidies should be available to people no matter where they buy their insurance? >> well the idea that the united states congress would pass a law that would say folks in texas should get federal -- should not get federal subsidies and folks in new york should doesn't seem to be the way any piece of legislation in the u.s. would be passed. these are federal subsidies available to all. and we're confident in our position that the congress passed a law that was intended to benefit all americans, not just those in select states. >> is that clear -- is it clear to you that's what congress intended. the opponents say it meant only that states have subsidies and if you lose that case does that gut obamacare? >> so with regard to to what the

law passed i think we've seen those that voted on laws have filed briefs in terms of what the intention was. we believe that that was the intention, that there wouldn't -- someone wouldn't pass the law with the idea that some americans get a benefit. having met those americans across the country and having met people in texas for the first time getting health care in 16 17 years and being able to do things like treat their ms the idea they wouldn't be able eligible and people in new york would, i think it's something that we don't think makes sense. with regard to the ramifications as you appropriately reflect, many people are on the exchange and getting that health care because of the subsidy. what we know as of january 30th our most recent numbers, 87% of the folks that are coming through the marketplace qualify for that financial assistance to make this care affordable. on average, it's $268 per person per month. and so the affordability issue is one that is making a huge difference. we saw a historic drop in 2013 to 2014 in the number of

uninsured and that affordability, when i talked to consumers out there is making a very big difference. >> finally, there's a big story breaking about a superbug linked to two deaths already at ucla hospital 179 people potentially exposed, we're talking about endo scopepy equipment not sister i'llized properly. what is the risk for people who get illnesses and infections and superbug when they are in the hospital what should be routine procedures? >> the issue of anti-microbe beeial resistance is something we're focused on. tlsz important efforts we'd like to fund to stay on top of these things. the center for disease control will be -- has been in touch with california and will be in touch with california state health department there to offer any of our support. i think the issue that's being raised here is one that is both a short term issue of how we take care of and look at this

incident specifically but over the long term. we need to do the research and put in plates the practices that prevent this kind of resistance. >> is it just the resistance or also that we have to do more about the way equipment is handled and the cleanliness, the sanitation at hospitals? >> with regard to this specific example, i think we want cdc and california to be able to have a chance to look at the situation before we comment further on that. >> okay. thank you so much, secretary burwell, thanks for being with us today. >> thank you so much for having me. we'll have more. we'll be right back.

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