>> that comment provoked a rebuke from senate armed services committee chairman john mccain who tweeted, "the notion that radical islam isn't at war with the west is an ugly lie." speaking earlier today, secretary of state john kerry commented on a separate controversy regarding remarks by a state department spokesperson who told msnbc's chris matthews on monday that the u.s. can't kill its way out of this conflict. >> there's been a silly debate in the media the last days about what you have to do. you have to do everything. you have to take the people off the battlefield who are there today, but you're kind of stupid if all you do is do that and don't prevent more people from going to the battlefield. >> msnbc -- i mean nbc's kristen welker joins me live from the white house. all right. this seems to have distracted a lot of attention away from that summit. how is the white house responding to all of the dustup over language? >> reporter: well, look i think it's significant that you have president obama responding to

this controversy now two days in a row, making his case against calling this fight a fight against islamic extremists. you heard him make the point that that just feeds into the terrorist arguments who are trying to say that this is a war against the west and islam. president obama saying that that only encourages more young people to sign up and join the fight with isis. so this is going to be a debate that will likely continue to play out, but president obama clearly trying to put that debate to rest to some extent today. now, critics are also claiming that this summit won't have any tangible results. white house officials acknowledge, look, there aren't going to be any major policy developments that have come out f of this three-day summit. having said that president obama used his remarks yesterday and today to previve the call within the international community to fight violent extremism, to fight isis. today he announced two new programs. one, a virtual exchange program. he said that would be aimed at getting a million young people

from the united states to interact with young people in the middle east. and he also announced a new information hub. a communications hub essentially between the united states and the uae, which would be aimed at countering some of the propaganda mess samgs sages from isis. they've been effective at reeling in young people to their cause. the white house, administration trying to counter that and, again, making the call this is a fight that has to happen in local communities and unless in cities and countries worldwide. joy? >> kristen, really quickly while we're talking about language and debates, any comment from the white house about the remarks by former new york mayor rudy giuliani that the president does not love his country? >> reporter: well deputy press secretary eric schultz was asked about this when he was gaggleingeing with reporters aboard air force one. he deferred reporters to the comments made by rick stengel of the state department who essentially said those comments

are just wrong in every way, don't represent president obama, and are really a sideshow to what is a much broader, more important debate that is going on. so the white house sort of trying to stay out of that but sending out other democratic operatives to respond, debbie wasserman-schultz also today criticized former mayor giuliani for making the comments against the president. joy? >> nbc's kristen welker, thanks very much. >> reporter: thanks. walmart said today it will raise wages for a half a million of its employees. the company said that all of its workers will earn at least $9 an hour by april. that would mean a raise for 40% of the retailer's workforce. that would put all walmart workers above the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. now, here's how it breaks down. in april, half a million walmart and sams club store employees will start making at least $9 an hour. by next february hourly employees will make at least $10 an hour after completing about six months of training. the move will cost walmart about $1 billion.

let's go to cnbc's courtney reagan for more on what all of this means. all right, courtney. so, first of all, what is the training required to get from $9 to $10 an hour? i guess that would be one obvious question. what does this mean overall for the retailer? >> reporter: walmart has always been one of the top retailers or companies in general that come up in points of discussion when talking about minimum wage. and what it costs to basically live and work in america today. as far as the training programs we're not exactly sure what those training programs will be to move from $9 to $10 an hour but we know that other training programs will be in place in order to help employees advance throughout their careers, managers, too, are getting a pay raise because actually before today, walmart has always said only about 6,000 of its 1.3 million u.s. employees make the federal minimum wage of $7.25 an hour. now they're saying 40% of folks are going to get a raise. that's above and beyond just those 6,000 that were making

that federal minimum wage. and walmart has come under a lot of criticism over the years by various groups, employees, or walmart supporters that say they need to pay their employees more. well, many of those groups are fairly satisfied today, though there have been previous calls for walmart to pay about $15 an hour, but it is a step in the right direction. we'll see if perhaps, fast food companies will follow walmart's lead as well. >> all right. let's see what happens. cnbc's courtny reagan. thank you. >> thank you. first it was the measles then the mumps and now the ucla medical center is notifying 179 people of possible exposure to a deadly superbug that's already been linked to two deaths. it's the latest in a serious of outbreaks across the country of bacterial infections that are very dangerous because they're incredibly resistant to antibiotic antibiotics. so what do you need to know? nbc's hallie jackson has more. >> reporter: it's been called a night mare bacteria by federal health officials.

a superbug that can kill up to half the people who become infected with it in their bloodstreams. now, about 170 patients at ucla are learning they may have been exposed to cre after having endoscopies between october and january. the hospital says seven people caught the bug from instruments that may have been contaminated and two died, possibly because they were infected. >> cre normally lives in the gut. if it gets into the bloodstream, it may kill 50% of the people it infects. >> reporter: similar outbreaks have happened in seattle, chicago, and pittsburgh and the cdc says at least one cre case has been reported in nearly every state. >> this is unprecedented. what we're watching now in terms of patients dying, patients getting infected. >> reporter: the infections are linked to a specialized procedure called ercp when gastrointo gastrointologists use a scope to go into the throat, the stomach, and beyond into the small intestine to get a closer look

at the patient's dieivegestive system. bacteria can get trapped at the tip of the endoscope. sometimes desterilization is not enough before it's used again. >> the instruments have been transmitting somewhat innocuous bacteria to patients and now that the bacteria is resistant, they're killing patients. >> reporter: a half million of the potentially life-saving procedures are given every year with a tiny fraction reporting problems from dirty scopes. any risk must be weighed against the consequences of not seeking necessary treatment. >> nbc's hallie jackson, thank you. weather forecasters, meanwhile, expected more than 100 record lows will be broken today and tomorrow. with temperatures 20 to 35 degrees below average. in chicago, officials closed schools for the day in anticipation of dangerous windchills of negative 30 degrees. in baltimore, a broken water main left cars literally frozen

in time as temperatures there are expected to drop to 1 degree above zero tonight. who better to discuss this weather madness than wnbc meteorologist janice huff? >> hi joy. we have a graphic here we've imported coming detectly from noaa tracking the cold air over the last couple of weeks. the first couple of cold waves came in from northern canada and the arctic circle down into the northeastern states and the great lakes. this area that's coming in today is coming in from siberia in russia. that's where the air is originateing from. from siberia straight through north america, the air mass is complete -- the landmass is completely covered with snow. we've got 47 million square kilometers of snow pack from siberia all the way to the northeastern state. so there's no warming at all with all these sub zero temperatures and all the snow cominge inging through. in the meantime on the other side of the jet stream it's warmer across the west coast. meanwhile, we're very cold in

the east. these are windchill alerts. warnings and advisories that stretch from michigan all the way down to florida. they're expecting freezing conditions there into south florida. that's 1,500 miles worth of cold air that's stretching across the eastern portion of the country. across south florida from tampa, to ft. pierce down to miami and ft. myers, all this entire area freeze alerts. there are warnings tonight for freezing temperatures across the area. you can see the temperatures right now, it's 2 in chicago, 25 in boston 24 in atlanta. very cold air. this is the snow pack across the united states. right now 41% of the united states is covered with snow. last month it was 27%. new england, 99.2% is covered with snow right now. >> wow, you know what janice come over here for a second. >> sure. >> come over here. we're doing these weather stories daily and talking about cold in the winter. part of me wants to say it's supposed to be cold in the winter. >> that's true. >> but then we get all of these record-breaking inging temperatures.

january this janice janice, is this unusual, the sigh breer yanberian express? you're a professional meteorologist. is this unusual this year? >> it's always unusual to get large bouts of cold air especially extreme cold. we always get -- it's winter. we get cold air. the siberian express has been here before. we've had that before. what we're seeing is these huge amplifications in the jet stream. they're huge. we're seeing the cold air not only make it across the great lakes but go really far south with this one. >> yeah. >> and we're stuck in this pattern of the jet stream. it's not changing. we get one wave of cold air after another. we get one snowstorm after another. that's why boston is seeing so much snow. it's not moving into its normal pattern. so, yes, a bit unusual for us. >> climate change. you cannot hate on florida. in the middle of winter, something is clearly wrong. we're supposed to be able to hate on them. one of the most famous faces and one of my girl crushes.

i appreciate you being here from wnbc. lawmakers in oklahoma are walking back a bill aimed at scrubbing away the ugly parts of american history. we'll tell you about that controversy. plus the debate over whether the terrorist group isis should be labeled as islamic. >> al qaeda and isil and groups like it are desperate for legitimacy. they try to portray themselves as religious leaders. holy warriors in defense of islam. they are not religious leaders. they're terrorists. denver international is one of the busiest airports in the country. we operate just like a city and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal generating electricity on-site and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment.

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terrorists traffic in lies and stereotypes about others. other religions. other ethnic groups. so let's share the truth of our faiths with each other. >> that's president obama this

morning talking about the threat of terrorism in his trademark ecumenical fashion. the president has been taking a lot of heat for his refusal when he makes comments like those to say isgy gyisis has any connection whatsoever to the religion of islam. while criticism of president obama is not surprising coming from republican opponents like senator john mccain who weighed in with more of the barbs today, criticism is now coming from voices who are typically more sympathetic to the president. for example, the news site vox published this article a few hours ago entitled "obama should stop pretending islamist terrorism has nothing to do with islam." the discussion of isis and islam kicked into full gear this week with the publication of this extensive article in the "atlanta." the author writes "muslims can say that slavery is not legitimate now and crucifixion is wrong at this historical juncture. many say precisely this they cannot condemn slavery or

crucifixion outright without contradicting the koran and the example of the prophet." and graham wood is a contributing writer, contributing editor, i should say, with "the atlantic" and joins me now. thanks for coming off my twitter feed and on to the show. >> thanks for having me. >> your piece is really fascinating for the way it sort of compared who isis is doing to what the david caresh and other, they consider themselves christian cults really did with the religion of christianity. do you believe it is wrong to not call isis islamic? >> well i think there are political reasons to avoid calling isis islamic, but there's also a fact of the matter, and that is that they derive from this diverse, often contradictly lyly lylyiry tradition called islam and motive of discourse and self-justification that reaches into the same texts many muslims, all muslims share. which are the koran and the hadif. they're very selective and almost all muslims reject their

interpretation. certainly, yes, they are an islamic movement, extremely unpopular one, brutal one. they're an islamic movement. like david caresh his movement was a christian movement extremely unpopular one, christian none necessary christian nonetheless. >> the ku klux klan calls themselves a christian organization. is it fair to label them a christian organization? would you say that would be fair to say? >> yes, absolutely. the kkk certainly emerged from a christian tradition. to deny for example, that stoning adultresses is part of the bible or part would also be false. these are things that don't have any part to the religions to almost anyone who adheres to them today. that does not mean they're not part of the tradition. same thing with islam. almost everybody who is ajects slavery,

has no interest in its reimplementation. to say it doesn't exist in the koran or islamic history, that's false. >> some of the criticism that your piece is getting. there's a piece in "think progress" which actually quotes a professor of islam union theological seminary in new york city as saying the following. "wood's position confirms what isis wants people to think about them, that they're the only legitimate voice echos that rhetoric 14urks00%. yes, that's what isis says about themselves. it's a different step to say yes that is true about the islamic tradition and all muslims." how do you respond? >> the professor should real the article more closely. there's a distinction i draw between what's legitimate in islam and part of this diverse contradictory tradition called islam. i take no position on whether they're correct. i'm not a muslim. that's now something that i am qualified to do or anyone cares

who my position is. i have no authority in that. as someone who can look objectively as anyone can have the ability to see these things are in the text and history. i think most muslims are able to do that. just as most christians are. most jews are. they can look unflinchingly at their own traditions and be modern people. that's what we see muslims doing. >> and one of the other things that's sort of fascinating about what you do in your piece is you talk about the apocalyptic nature of this cult. there have been apocalyptic cults before. there was jonestown, much of americans went down to guyana and had a apocalyptic cult experience. you describe isis similarly. you write "much of what the group does looks nonsensical, sincere careful movement to returning civilization to a 7th century legal environment and ultimately to bring about the apocalypse." if that is what isis is after creating a 7th century world are they a threat in terms of radiating that violence back to the countries where these isis adherents come from or a group

that's more about drawing adherents from countries like the united states into where they are in the middle east? >> definitely the latter. isis' efforts have overwhelmingly been to get muslims to migrate to the islamic state and to support it there. contrast that with al qaeda, for example, which was with the core group of al qaeda was emphasizing sending bombers overseas attack the infidels where they live. isis does not do that quite as aggressively. we see the lone wolf attacks. they often look much less like isis-sponsored attacks than lone wolves who decide they're going to act unilaterally in isis' name. the fact they're concentrating on syria and iraq, should be worrisome for those people in those regions. >> yeah. it's a fascinating discussion, graeme wood. i recommend people should read your article whether they agree

or not. it's interesting. graeme wood with "the atlantic." appreciate it. three things to know on this thursday. a federal appeals court heard arguments today to move the trial of boston marathon bombing suspect tsarnaev out of massachusetts. tsarnaev's attorneys argue 85% of potential jurors believe tsarnaev is guilty or have some connection to the bombing and its aftermath. the original judge already turned down three requests from defense attorneys to move the trial. in prescott arizona, hundreds of people came out last night to remember kayla mueller, the 26-year-old american aide worker who died in isis captivity. several of kayla's friends also posted a tribute video on youtube which includes this message from kayla. >> i hope i never forget that everything happens for a reason and that nothing should be a regret, and that you're always learning about yourself through other people and you're always

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in oklahoma, a pastor and lawmaker wants to change the way advanced placement mystery courses are taught in the state. representative dan fisher proposed a bill that would pull state funding from a.p. history that he and other lawmakers deem unpatriotic. under mr. fisher's bill "the following foundational and historical documents shall from the base level of forum academic content for all united states history courses offered in schools in the state. the ten commandments. the first inaugural address made by ronald reagan. the 40th anniversary of d-day speech made by ronald reagan. remarks at the brandenburg gate speech made by ronald reagan. and the address to the nation made by," wait for it "george w. bush, of course, on jeptseptember 11 th 2001. okay. representative stone, thank you for being here. can you explain to us how this

bill came about? where did to come from? was there some controversial with the a.p. courses as they were? >> well thank you if having me joy. where this bill came from was a fundamental lack of understanding for where a.p. history students should be. it came from a belief that a.p. is anti-american and that these students shouldn't already have a basic understanding of what's happening in american history. >> was there a lack of ronald reagan being represented in the american history books? there's an awful lot of reagan in the revision. >> yeah here in oklahoma we hear a lot of reagan and as you'll notice the bill mentioned president reagan. it didn't mention president clinton. it did mention president bush but did not mention president obama. >> let me play a little bit of your fellow member of the state legislature, state representative dan fisher explaining why he believed there needed to be changes and apparently has something to do with free enterprise. let's take a listen. >> american free enterprise is a positive force.

it's pretty much aomitted. and the oppression of the poor and the strong oppressing the weak is pretty much what it's about. in essence, what we're having here is a new emphasis on what is bad about america. >> representative stone, in your view, is teaching history as it actually happened somehow denigrating the country or is it just informing students about what actually happened? >> it's informing students about what actually happened and what this course does isn't -- it doesn't even get into the weeds. it simply takes concepts and says explain these with what you've learned in your first 11 years of school. >> so, your legislature as i see it is composed of 29 democrats and that's in the house. in the house, it's 40 republicans in the senate 7 democrats. is there any chance of stopping these changes from going forward? >> there is. and luckily i've had a lot of constituents reach out to me. i've gotten over 1,000 e-mails on this bill and i've heard from others that are getting the

same sort of response. and representative fisher said he wants to reword the bill. i do expect it to come back with many of the same teeth, just looking to kill a.p. u.s. history. >> and what has been the response from teachers and from parents and even students in your state to this desire to eradicate anything about american history that's either deemed negative or not about ronald reagan? >> well i can -- i can bring all those groups into one answer, and they're all very very upset. they're concerned that this will increase student debt because students won't be able to get college credit before college. they're concerned that it won't keep their kids or won't keep themselves or their students interactive in school and it won't keep them mentally stimulated. >> and there's -- i think progress notes in oklahoma is just the beginning, there are other states considering making these kinds of changes to u.s. history courses. are you afraid if this bill passes even if modified form that oklahoma will set a precedent that could essentially start to alter in very you

know not ahistoric ways, history courses outside of your state? >> absolutely. and in the state legislature, we often ask the question has there been a bill similar to this in oklahoma? so this could be a benchmark that kills a.p.altogether in oklahoma. if it hasn't happened in oklahoma, what other states has it happened in? it could be other states look to take out a.p. history in their own state. >> strange days indeed. representative shane stone. thank you for joining us. >> thank you very much. have a great day. >> thank you you, too. up next the debate between radical islam and the hisysterics gripping the right. but when i started having back pain my sister had to come help. i don't like asking for help. i took tylenol but i had to take six pills to get through the day. so my daughter brought over some aleve. it's just two pills, all day! and now, i'm back!

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been a rough business but at what point does sharp criticism get described more accurately as derangement? in 2003 during the george w.

bush administration fox news pundit charles krauthammer coined the term "bush derainment syndrome" to describe what he called "the acute on set of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies the presidency, the very existence of george w. bush." so what to make of the often over the top reactions to president barack obama? some might say we reached the point of obama derangement back when conservatives were demanding to see the president's long-form birth certificate. have we in fact reached peak derangement, or what jon stewart called barack-no-phobia here and now? a conservative and documentary filmmaker who is a convicted felon on campaign fraud charges who tweeted the following yesterday. "you can take the boy out of the ghetto watch this vulgar man show his stuff while america cowers in embarrassment."

that was in reaction to the president's satirical selfie video with buzzfeed promoting the affordable care act. when desuza received the anticipated backlash to referring to the african-american president from hawaii as a boy from the ghetto, he responded with yet another tweet explaining "i know obama wasn't actually raised in a ghetto. i'm using the term metaphorically to suggest his unpresidential conduct." well, that fixes it. exhibit "b," one rudy giuliani former presidential candidate and mayor of new york city whose current full-time occupation is to find ever more extravagant ways to slag barack obama. "i do not believe, and i know this is a horrible thing to say, but i do not believe that the president loves america. he doesn't love you. he doesn't love me. he wasn't brought up the way you were brought up and i was brought up through love of his

country." well, if you knew it was an awful thing to say. exhibit "c." the "new york post" offered this as its front page today with the apparent message being that the president is uncapable of seeing islamic terrorism because freedom fries. the question is, have we reached peak obama derangement on the right or is some of the recent criticism of obama as not willing to confront islamic extremism somehow justified? joining me carol lee white house reporter from the "wall street journal." and columnist dana milbank. rudy giuliani had more to say, revised his comments about the president on "fox & friends this morning." take a listen. >> first of all, i'm not questioning his patriotism. he's a peteatriot i'm sure. what i'm saying is in his rhetoric i very rarely hear him say the things i used to hear ronald reagan say, the things i used to say bill clinton say about how much he loves america. i do hear him criticize america much more often than other

american presidents. and when it's not in the context of overwhelming number of statements about the exceptionalism of america, it sounds like he's more of a critic than he is a supporter. >> uh-huh. >> and you can be a patriotic american and be a critic, but then you're not expressesing that kind of love that we're used to from a president. >> dana milbank, your witness? >> so he's not questioning his patriotism, he just doesn't support his country. the country that he's the commander in chief of. yeah, i'm not sure how well rudy giuliani climbed down with that. you know, i'm not sure joy, that this is really in the category of obama derangement syndrome because i think there is something very coldly calculating about this. sort of disqualify this president as a valid president of the united states has been going on for some period of time. but to basically suggest that he's consorting with the enemy,

in cahoots with the enemy, so i don't thing it's sort of just harmless birtherism here. i think it is trying to make him something other than an american. >> carol lee doing so after he's already won two elections, elected outright by the american people and if there is calculation here, i wonder what you think it might be because giuliani was at a dinner for scott walker. scott walker took some criticism for not immediately refeudpudiateing what was said. let's listen to what governor scott walker said on cnbc this northern in response to what rudy giuliani had to say. >> the mayor can speak for himself. i'm not going to comment on what the president thinks. he can speak for himself. i love america. >> do you agree with the comments? what was your reaction when you heard them? >> i'm in new york. i'm used to people saying things -- >> let me ask you again. >> carol lee, i live in new york. i don't hear people saying that every day. but what would be the calculation for scott walker in not running away from those comments and seeming to want to

do i'm not a scientist with them? >> it's all about 2016. as dana said this is the kind of rhetoric that we've heard for a long time about this president and now it's ramping back up as these folks try to appeal to a certain part of the republican base. that's clearly why you saw governor walker not walk back or distance himself and just to the extent of disagreeing with mayor giuliani. you're probably going to see even more of this. the problem for the republican party is that when you have this rhetoric out there, it drowns out the broader debate about, you know, even the president would say are legitimate differences of opinion about specific policy issues about leadership style, because instead of focusing on that which might appeal to a wider audience, you're focusing on this very narrow kind of criticism that appeals to a very small sliver of the republican base. >> and dana, i think that is a key point because you do have a republican party that keeps saying it wants to change wants

to grow in terms of its base. when you have you know prominent conservatives calling the president a boy with all of the ramifications that that has of calling an adult black man a boy and he's ghetto. he's from hawaii. then you add to it this sort of he's not patriotic after he's not running again. i wonder if there could possibly be political calculation because who is that meant to help republicans with? if not with people that are already on their side? >> yeah. if i were the democrats, i'd be sending giuliani and desuza roses, champagne, cupcakes, whatever, because this does -- it's not -- look, you can have people out on the right who aren't elected officials saying all kinds of things but it wasn't just walker. it's bobby jindal, it's oaththers who are if not refusing to condemn what giuliani said tiptoeing right up to supporting it. this is going to come back to bite them obviously when -- if and when one of them becomes the

republican nominee because this is not some sort of rhetoric that's tolerated in the broader society. >> yeah, indeed. debbie wasserman-schultz maybe not sending flowers and roses but came out with a pretty strong statement in rebuke of what was said. i can't imagine democrats won't try to use it to their advantage. >> dish infish in a barrel. >> wish we had more time. carol lee, dana milbank. thank you both. next the misadventures of awkward black girl esa ray and how we all can pretty much relate. most of the products we all buy are transported on container ships. before a truck delivers it to your store, a container ship delivered it to that truck. here in san diego, we're building the first one ever to run on natural gas. ships this big running this clean will be much better for the environment. we're proud to be a part of that.

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searing, necessarily and lovingly awkward. a few of the raves rolling in from the likes of mindy caling lena dunham, and williams for issa rae for her youtube series "the misaddtures of an awkward black girl." taking on what it's like to be a

black woman that's not in line with society's expectations. it landed issa rae on the radar of up and coming lists including "people" magazine's list of ones to watch. i sat down with issa and found out what makes her awkward adventures resonate with so many people. joining me now, issa rae, creator of the series "misadventures of awkward black girl" and author of the book by the same name. i have the book right here as a matter of fact. let me fish it out of my little thing here. issa, everybody in the whole world on earth is so proud of you. how did you come up with the "misadventures of awkward black girl" and how did you get it going? >> honestly, i realized i was awkward. i had an existential moment i was broke in new york trying to figure out what i was doing. it hit me i wrote it down in my journal, i'm awkward and black. those words changed my life. it was a revelation for me and it changed everything. >> so many of us are awkward. who among us are not?

who doi you suppose, stepping outside of yourself for a moment, it resonated with so many people especially young black women who saw themselves in you? >> i think it was twofold. everyone has, like you said felt awkward at some point in time, just especially socially. you're always overanalyzing social interactions. i think in that sense we explore explored a lot of that in the series. the awkward black sense, like me putting out the character just came from a sense of not feeling represented in a way and the depictions of black women at the time were just atrocious. and i think that the awkward blackness fit -- it didn't fit in the mold of it. my definition of blackness didn't fit that of mainstream media's. >> yeah. >> a lot of young women identify with that identity. >> yeah. indeed. let's play a little clip from season two. you did two seasons of the web series. let's do a clip from season two called "the sleep over." >> oh gosh. >> i'm going to see you tonight, right? it's our three-week-a-versary.

>> why do people celebrate everything? >> you look great today. so feminine. really really sexy. >> okay. so you got the interracial dating experience going on there. >> yes. >> i mean which of the experiences that you depicted in "awkward black girl" were the most awkward? is interracial dating -- is that the most awkward experience that you've experienced? >> in the series tackling that was a lot of fun because we had a lot of couples come up to us and say, oh my gosh i have a -- it's so funny to see the awkwardness of being out there and thinking about people's expectations of how we got together, who we are. i think that's one of the issues we tackled. just race in general. that's always such a touchy subject. we try to not be preachy and make people feel bad. it's just about makes them laugh about some of the absurd assumptions about race. >> so one of the things that's happening with you now is you're transitioning from this online media world to television.

to cable television. you have a serious coming up with hbo. you have a pilot that's already been green lit. tell us about that. >> it's called "insecure." it's close to my own life. it's about my best friend and i as we navigate life turning 30 and the awkward trials and tribulations. i'm going to come up with a better pitch soon. yes, my elevator pictures definitely need it. it's so exciting it make it. you know, it's something that's so close to me. hbo is so great with like gives their writers free rein and accommodating the voice. it's exciting. >> you definitely have shone thewn the power of web-based programming, how it can attract a following, grow and use social media to transition into the mainstream. congratulations. larry willmoore is involved, right is. >> i love him to death. such a great guy, such a talent. he's involved. he's executive producing. he wrote the pilot with me.

>> we'll look forward to zeeseeing everything you do, issa rae. we know you're going to go farther. come back and see us again. >> i'd be happy to. thank you, joy. >> thank you very much for being here. a quick reid alert. you're looking at live pictures from chicago where in just minutes president obama will announce his every kid in a park initiative. through the program, all fourth grade students and their families will enjoy free admission to national parks for one year. the president will also designate the pullman neighborhood in chicago's south side as a national monument. the designation is in honor of the pullman porters, a group primarily of black men employed by industrial magnate george pullman who escaped the jim crow south to begin the new black middle class. that wraps things up for "the reid report." see you back here tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern. visit us online at thereidreport.msnbc.com. "the cycle" is up next with the return of steve kornacki what sfw. >> we love steve so much we can't let him to. >> the entire hour we're lucky.

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