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of the most frequent targets. let's get to jim miklaszewski. it seems weird for the military to put something out this specific and public this early. what is the loblgic? >> no yes. and when reporters asked what is this about? there was push-back from the military and they said the intention is to set isis back on their heels and put them on a defensive crouch and take them out of their own battle rhythm but quite frankly after being hammered pretty much fairly or unfairly, however you want to look at it as to what many consider lack of progress in the u.s.-iraqi military effort against isis in iraq you have to guess somebody wanted to put out something that sounded like progress, steve. >> and this is the same iraqi army that laid down their
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weapons last year to sis so how can they make sure something like that doesn't happen again? >> u.s. military officials have claimed for some time they have stepped up the training of the iraqi forces who, quite frankly, basically are capable of conducting combat operations. but nobody has any qualms or any confidence really -- really little confidence that the iraqis will be able to invade enter mosul. iraq's second largest city to take on those isis fighters that are pretty much dug in. there is word they are digging trenches there in mosul in anticipation of any kind of attack. this would be door-to-door ferocious hand-to-hand urban combat and everybody is wondering if the iraqi military is up to that and frankly nobody in this building that we've
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talked to has much confidence they can do that as early as april or may sent out in the briefing from a cent com official and anything to take back over mosul will have any time soon. >> thank you mike. and we turn to the state department's representative farrah candy at the council or foreign relations. so let's pick up the question on the pending attempt to liberate mosul from isis. and when you look closely at the dynamics here this is a city that is a sunni city and this would be a u.s.-led heavily shia iraqi army trying to liberate it and maybe with help from iran that is also shiite. there will be resistance in the city to being liberated by
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people that are their enemies. >> you are requesting a question much -- asking a question much broader than iraq. it is the piece leading up to this interview. how do you think about moving forward a bunch of ideas that are pushing back against what the extremists are trying to move in on. so there is a ground component to this but the psychological component is who are the people that will win over the people of that city. so when you talk about the different sect of islam, the optics matter and that is a bigger point for the issue of extremism in general. >> farah you are working on a book aimed at young muslim millennials and when you are young, it is hard to figure out who you are and what you want to be and do with your life but to
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put that in perspective, 62% of the 1.6 billion muslims are under the age of 30. this is what isis wants. they are not going after people in their 40s and 50s, so what do you want the message the young millennials to hear? >> and they are digital natives. they look to google for answers and not for the cool answers from their parents and who can answer the questions that makes sense for them. and who makes sense is the peers. any teen-ager or a young person they are looking for people that can connect with them and speak in a way that makes them emotionally comfortable. so when we think about how to counter this crisis of identity what we have to be doing is scaling up broadly and in a massive way, all different types of answers of questions of what it means to be muslim on the planet today. so it is important to the
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generation today and having them understand the difference between culture and religion and how it manifests around the world, not absorbing what the extremists are saying and this is a monolith and this is how you become a muslim. they need to see different type of role models not small campaigns of role models but the integration of the diversity of islam so they can see themselves in other people. >> you mentioned not absorbing some of the extremism. and today in "the new york times" i'm sure you saw this quest. i want to read a quote from an imam working to help americans and other local folks avoid the radical islam and he said the recruiters won't leave him alone, talking about someone being recruited with isis. they were on social media with him at all hours and tweet him in the morning. any talk to him for an hour they undo him in two hours. what do you do about someone
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trying to undo the isis movement and he feels like he is losing. >> this is a challenge of our time looking at from the government and community perspective. how do you push back at the pace that the bad guys are able to said use youth from around the world. and we have to stand up to the idealogical forces to allow peers to get the answers to them online and offline. imams aren't the only solutions but other figures can make a difference and not just the wharped theology of the extremists and how they interpret religion for their nefarious ends but also helping the kids understand how they can be true to themselves. and for that to happen, we need to be able to stand up to the credible voices in the community we can do that and where we have failed since 9/11 is scaling up the ideas of community members to be able to do that. >> so that is the human side
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given your experience of the diplomacy. what do you think about the corporate side that the u.s. should put more pressure on the companies that are platforms, they are neutral, and if you run twitter there is potentially bad stuff on twitter and what do you make of the effort to cut off the contact on the corporate level. >> you are putting your finger on something very important and the white house just had a three-day summit on countering extremism and the opponents to this -- the components to this is how the private sector can help us on this great challenge to a generation. the reason the private sector is important not just because they have money that is nongovernment and credible but they have skill sets because they can gabe ground -- gain ground and scale up. they focus attention on the private sector by highlighting
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google and the gen next foundation and the strategic dialogue, nongovernment actors working in a space to scale up ideas and we need to see that massively moved into the mainstream so any company on earth or philanthropist on earth can take part in helping ideas bloom and build resilience within communities. >> you take about the wharped ideology the twisted nature of the islam that isis is talking about and in graham woods article in the atlantic we've been talking about all week great article, he talks about scholars commenting on the islamic myths of isis and one of the key scholars said the fighters of the islamic state are authentic throwbacks to islam and faithfully reproducing its norms of war. and they are saying that separating that is a mistake.
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you know what the administration is thinking in their thought process in terms of saying no it is not islamic. we are dealing with terrorism and extremism and he want to separate the islamic part out of this. do you think the white house is doing the right thing by taking that tact. >> this is not the only president to weigh the pros and cons to weigh this kind of threat. president reagan did this during the hostage crisis and president bush did it after 9/11. they have to weigh what they are talking about and the threat of the time. every president in american history starting with george washington up until today has talked with dignity about the religion of islam and presidents, whether you like it or not and whether you like the decisions or not, this president in the last couple of days have articulated the ideology of the extremists and to say violent and nonviolent ideologies are building the eco-system in which
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kids move in a particular direction and we need to eradicate anything in the eco-system that will move us in that way. so terminology and lexicon is right now such a radioactive issue, it is actually quite -- i don't think it is a fruitful a conversation as we could have. we have to take a historic look at how our presidents have talked about islam in america and islam in general and the importance of being dignified in how we talk about these things at the same time as being very precise and focused on the solutions that are needed to stop this ideology from spreading. >> and farah, 10% of the isis recruits are women and an all female group between isis they put together a hand book where they say you can be married as young as the age of nine. this is not aimed for american women but more women in the arabian peninsula. why would woman abandon their
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lifestyle and do this? >> this is a shift and frankly a blind spot for governments all over the world. we have the stereotypes of what it must be to be a muslim woman and it is problematic because it has allowed the bad guys to move on a front that we are catching up to which is the recruitment of women. there are profile events in the last year with austrian girls and three americans from denver and this goes back to a time a woman called jihad jane where people thought this was a one-off and they weren't taking the radicalism of women seriously and the bad guys knew you need to have women in your arms and make sure that mothers are part of this and that you are absolutely able to influence the home. and that is a very dangerous phenomenon that just happened and we need to do more to understand what the narratives are specifically atuned to woman so we understand what the
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counter-narratives will be for women and that is something i hope we do more of. >> farah, thank you. we appreciate that. and governors planning on running for president, here is advice for you. and can the pope bring peace between the ukraine and russia. and frozen -- and that is dylan drier making like ice. and the cycle rolls on from the coldest new york city in more than a decade. it is friday, february 20th. ring ring! progresso! i can't believe i'm eating bacon and rich creamy cheese before my sister's wedding well it's only 100 calories, so you'll be ready for that dress uh-huh... you don't love the dress? i love my sister... 40 flavors. 100 calories or less.
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on wednesday night, msnbc and telemundo are teaming up for a town hall with president obama. the special will air at 8:00 eastern and hosed by jose diaz bellart. and this morning top democrats got to hear from their leader at the dnc winter meeting in washington. >> are auto industries firing on all cylinders? none of this an accident. it is in the an accident that our manufacturers are creating jobs for the first time since the last time a democrat was president. >> and on sunday night, the president will host a dinner for the national governor's association at the white house, that is not an accident and at few of the attendees have their
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sights set on the white house. and to explain it former vermont governor howard dean and former chair of the dnc and fonder of democracy for america, good day to you, governor. >> thanks for having me on. >> great to have you here. and let me start with what people are saying about another governor chris christie. is that he's gotten caught in the bubble. he is more of a front-runner than he is and he can walk around and expect support from the party rather than asking for it. i don't think these are criticisms, governor that are unique to him. can you help us understand how these early pre-campaign periods work and whether you think people in both parties are sometimes susceptible to hearing their boosters or their inner circle so much they lose track of the wider race and reality? >> i would say all of the above. at this point of the campaign there are jockeying and behind the scenes to put the candidates
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at a disposition. and i've said this for many months about chris christie is that i don't think his act plays on the road. he's in a weakened condition. he has some legal problems and some attitude problems. forget about it is not a great campaign strategy in iowa and minnesota. and that is part of what we're seeing. >> governor, again from the experience of running for president, and people say we are in what they call the invisible primary season right now, though it is more visible than ever thanks to the technology out there. >> thanks to you. >> and this is when the candidates are out there trying to line up the donors and early big key endorsements and that is when christy hit stumbling blocks on big donors not going with him and going with jeb and tom cain going with jeb. and so going with this process, if it starts to not work for you like it seems to be with chris christie. what is your strategic thinking about do i want to go forward
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with this? >> the money part of the invisible primary is critical. that is what people will look at it. . and this was predictable. and we talked about this months ago. when jeb bush comes into the race they both think they are so-called moderate and if you were a donor and placing your bet on a guy who had two previous members of his family be president and knows how to raise money and has a national profile or a guy being investigated by the manhattan district attorney, who would you give your money to. >> that sounds like an ad for jeb bush. >> pardon? >> she said that sounds like an ad for jeb bush. that is a perfect way to say it. and i love the way you say so-called moderate. and when you are a governor and running for president how do you walk the line between doing your job and chasing that other job
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you want? does one have to suffer? do your constituents have to accept you are not focused on them or they have to roll with the lieutenant governor while you are chasing the top job in the country? >> no. it is a real problem. and fortunately for me i started running but thendy not run for -- but then i did not run for re-election. and my campaign didn't get going until i was out of the office. people do recent it in your home state when you run. they would like you to pay attention to them and they know you are not when you are running for president. and he has a rough row to hoe because he has until 2016. >> and some have a state to run and want to have another job. >> that is right. all of those guys will get in trouble in their home states and that will contribute to problems on the trail. >> and they will be together this weekend. the national governor's association is on sunday and the president will speak on sunday
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night. governor, you've been to these before and governors get to know each other better and talk about things in their state working. and we don't talk enough about governors and things they are getting right and because that is where interesting things are happening. when you look across the board, on both parties, who are doing things that are getting things done? >> i think it is what they are not getting things done. and a lot of them are the disposition of where someone in a executive job has been. that is what sets you apart. you are making decisions and saying things that are not popular and you can't please everybody. it is different than being in the senate. so i do think governors come to the campaigns with a different mindset than people who have not served in an executive position before. >> one of the best complyiments over the years is that you are not sennet oriole.
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works! works? works. works. welcome back. another winter storm is in the offing but the story this afternoon is the cold temperatures. all of us here at the table are familiar with these scenes from the streets of new york city. layers were the name of the game as temperatures lipped to the -- dipped to the lowest levels in decades. some homes are in feet of snow and some are encased in ice. this is from quincy massachusetts, south of boston. and in miami, tourists woke up there to temperatures in the 40s. that sounds wonderful if you ask
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me. and cycle chief and meteorologist raffi is here. and you say we are in for a more wild ride this week. >> there is a wild ride. and temperatures rebound back to 309s and 40s which is a big improvement over today. and this week we had the coldest morning in 11 years. >> no. >> you blocked it out. >> it happened again, toure this morning. # degrees in -- 2 degrees in central park. >> but with windchills it was below that. >> 15-20. >> and i went walking, it is so cold as you walk you can feel yourself getting colder each block and more than five blocks you are toast. and by toast i mean frozen toast. >> that sounds gross. frozen toast. >> this is why we don't banter with you during weather. >> and now i'm hungry for toast. >> but we are sick of cold weather. and you want a break. and you want to go outside.
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but there will be snow sometime. there is no win-win here. and temperatures will rise above freezing which is nice this winter in the northeast and into the 40s on sunday. but let's look at the arctic air forecast. i don't want to mislead you. the white here is the enemy, slighting in over the next few days. can you see sunday -- you can see sunday again, spilling into the midwest and then spilling around time and time again and the northeast back into a deep freeze on monday. enjoy the weekend despite the winter storm and tuesday into wednesday it looks like the pattern will repeat once again next week. so no major good news in nerms of ty -- in terms of a big warm-up. it is not coming any time soon. maybe in march it. feels like 3 lee low in -- below in boston. here it feels above zero. and working across the south into the ohio valley we have a ice storm warning and expect difficult travel along here into the ohio valley and even the
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northeast we have winter storm watches in effect in the new york metropolitan area. this is your setup for tomorrow afternoon into sunday morning. it is a snowstorm for the ohio valley. 3-6 inches around new york city. along the coast we'll see messy mix and freezing rain a possibility. not a good weekend to travel as you head from the ohio valley and especially into new england. so for tomorrow 32 for the high in central park. 30 in chicago. that is a break as well. and watch what happens. down into sunday high temperatures in the teens in chicago and i need to look ahead now. even though temperatures are in the 40s on sunday back to the teens. this is your new york city extended forecast and it looks like we're in for another round of the painful -- this is a great time to get away cold -- that is next week. teens and 20s. march is looking better. >> a weekend on the couch. isis may be stealing international headlines but it is not the only crisis engulfing
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the western world. the pope urges both sides of ukraine and russia for the cease-fire. and there are rumors that putin is moving in on more territory, including the white house. >> as we see russia fail to live up though the commitments and putin in particular fail to live up to the commitments, it does put them at risk of facing even higher costs. and the question has always been, and this is a question i've gotten in this rule before has always been at what point do the costs become sufficiently high that russia and president putin reevaluates his strategy for his country's actions in eastern ukraine. and that is something we'll continue to watch. >> another person who has been closely watching the developments in this region is clifford gatty, co-author on a book on putin updated in light
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of recent events. thank you for joining us. >> my pleasure. >> so you argue mr. putin is the biggest threat to national security and the only way to predict what he will do next is to understand his personality but the question is how do we do that? >> we have to spend time and effort trying to do that. that is what fiona hill my co-author and i have sought to do in a book we published in 2013 and have issued an expanded edition that just came out last week trying to give a picture of the way he thinks. and where those ideas come from. our thesis is that if we don't understand how he's thinking there is no way we can plan our own response and strategy to his actions. >> well clifford to that point, we have to understand what he understands and thinks about us and you write that putin does not understand the west which is bizarre to me.
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you write what we fail to appreciate, however, is how dangerously little putin understands about us our motive and our mentality and our values and of course being americans we have to make it all about us. but please explain how is it that putin after all of this time still doesn't understand us? >> well understand his background. his only professional background before he became deputy mayor of the city of st. petersburg as the soviet union collapsed in 1991-92, his only background was as a kgb agent operative of the intelligence services and his specialization was in germany. he was taught german and posted to east germany during the last years before the fall of communism and the fall of the soviet system. he does know some english now. we know that.
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but he's never been so -- so confident in his english language skills that he might engage with people from the united states or from english-speaking countries. to our knowledge he may have never met personally an american until 1990. did he have a great deal of interaction with american business people in st. petersburg in the 1990s. but he is a man who also has shown no interest in learning about the united states. and if we think back to soviet leaders, remember krustof, he wanted to go to iowa and visit the corn farmers and others have shown fascination with american life as the adversary but still an interest and fascination. putin has shown none of that and nor do we think he has around him people well informed of how the american system works which
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is complex and different and alien to the way he is operating his own system. so this is a prescription for misinterpretation and misunderstanding. the kind of mis-reads that can be disastrous in terms of international relations and geopolitics. >> and this is random but people are curious. there was reports that putin might have aspergers and what you might make of that report and if it were true would that explain his behavior and what are your indications of how to deal with him. >> we are familiar with that report and it was issued in 2008 so people who were studying russia are well aware of that. we didn't find -- true or not, because we're not medical experts doesn't contribute anything to trying to understand his ideas and the way he thinks. we did try to go back to his own personal background and experiences in his own past as
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he grew up even or experiences beyond his own lifetime experiences of his parents living through the siege of lennan grad in world war ii or his father that served in the military in world war ii or further back in russian history. we stress putin is not an anomaly and not an out-liar in russian politics and he embodies a mainstream of russian politics and mentality in way of thinking which he is well aware of and skilled of trying to appeal to the deep-seeded -- some of them maybe prejudices -- but they are a deep-seeded way of looking at themselves and the world. >> very interesting stuff. clifford gaddy, thank you for being with us. >> you're welcome. >> and up next good news on a friday, why it just got easier to see more of our beautiful country and for free.
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from the grand tetons to the grand canyon yellowstone to the everglades, obama wents americans to get out and appreciate our national parks. >> breathe in some fresh air and see this incredible bounty that has been given to us. no matter who you are and no matter where you live you are our parks and lands and waters these places are the birth right of all americans. >> you just have to get over the threat of wild bears and bugs and vultures, but i digress. >> what are you talking about? >> as we first reported here on the cycle, the president offered all fourth graders and their families a year of free admission to any national park next school year. it coincides with the 100 anniversary of the national park system and joining us with a guide to what the lucky fourth graders can see with the free
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passes is graceon schaefer. the senior editor -- and i said the grand tetons and it is the grand tetons. and it was the only urban national park. there might be a another -- another one. and i'm foreign. so the grand tetons why is it important to get a fourth grader interested in going to -- i'm going to keep saying it until i get it right -- the grand tetons. >> it is french. this is all about planting the seeds of shared appreciation for our great public spaces in the u.s. they are called the national parks, america's best idea. and if you are a fourth zbrader, you are -- grader you are among the generation that may have to deal with climate change. so this is all about getting kids off the phones and away from the screens and out into nature in a way where they can
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have some experiences that make them champions for the future. >> and there is no replacement for getting out there and seeing it. and this is a great idea. it goes back a long way. teddy roosevelt, a big conservationist said i believe the natural resources must be used for the benefit of all of our people and not monopolized for the few. and conservation is a great more -- morale issue for it involves the patriotic view for americans. >> and the only way to ensure the future is by popular demand and in recent years we've seen a real sort of resurgence of the movement where people now -- that the federal -- the federal
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lands -- the federal government has too much public land and states could do a better job of it and i think we're seeing the obama administration and congress now trying to counter-act that and trying to get 10 million young and urban kids into parks and public lands by the year 2017 and putting through seven new national park designations in the recent defense authorization bill. so they are taking a stand in a way that we haven't seen in recent years. >> thanks for the photographs we've been showing of our national parks and they are just gorgeous and they are selling me on wanting to go and get out in that great outdoors. >> the grand tetons. >> that is just gorgeous. i can't believe that is in america. and tell us i'm going to make you pick amongst your children which one are your favorites. what are the three must-see parks that every american should put on their bucket list? >> well i think -- first and foremost you have to see yellowstone. it is a vision of america and at
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its founding. if you are a patient-- a parent from new jersey, you can drive up and see what america looked like when lewis and clark were headed up that way. it has everything from geysers to bison to wolves and it is incredibly accessible and a living diagram of the living -- >> i would argue. and yellowstone is one of the developing and touristy parks and i've gone there and the glacier and the grand tetons and to washington state and i would push people to do the grand tetons or the glacier. >> pushing back. >> you can debate it. >> certainly the tetons and mt. rainier, places where you can test yourself. >> i climbed it with my dad. and he summited it for the second time in his early 60s
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which is impressive. but go ahead. >> great. go ahead. >> if you want to test yourself denali national park 21,000 foot peak. the crazy thing about denali it looks like you should be ineesha and it is still -- in asia and it is part of america. >> and abby huntsman who will ask your next question. and abby would bring you a few of your favorite continents. >> i do loveash auxt and i'm from utah and so the big open parks, i miss them being here in new york. and you talk about the grand canyon yellowstone and these are wonderful, but there are so many places that people don't know about. one of my favorites is lake powell on the border of utah and arizonaand surrounded by red rocks. one of my favorite places in the whole world. talk about the hidden gems
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people don't know about. >> utah is known for the national parks. you have zion and brice and the canyons and the arches. utah is one of the great desert states where you have amazing landscapes in every direction. >> i don't know about you, i'm going to adopt a fourth grader and take advantage of those grand tetons. is there an amusement park? >> watch out for the bears. >> thank you for joining us. that was a great explanation of the grand tetons and the surrounding national parks. >> and mt. lively where you climbed with your dad, whatever it was. >> the oscars on sunday night and up next we have your preview in pure cycle fashion. and ellen's selfie. >> not possible. uh-huh...
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right now at the doll by theater in los angeles an army of men and women are frantically putting together all of the trimmings that go with the oscars which will air on sunday. a nice party, neil patrick harris is hosting and performers include jack black and lady guy guy and the island guy singing everything is awesome. it will be a party. and birdman will win. and for some reason our next guest says not so fast toure. he is not sure about birdman and that is why they play the game.
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matt singer the editor of screen crush. and somehow he is doubting me on birtman. i don't know why. it has swept the guild awards and once again you see a picture that makes hollywood look good and turns the lens on actors and you saw that with the artists and argo and so why are you clinging to the hope that boyhood will win. >> it does make it look like long-suffering geniuses and actors are making them look like long-suffering geniuses won't hurt. >> and flattering won't work. people like it but some people hate it. >> and i don't know what the planned ending was. >> hold on to that. we could do a segment on that. by boyhood is polarizing. >> it is an achievement. it is 12 years in the making. >> oh, no. yawn. >> i was waiting for you to say it is 12 years in the watching.
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>> and voters will look at it and say how do i vote against it. and enough people will say, i can't vote against it. it might sneak out. >> if boyhood wins out. >> if "boyhood" wins do you realize the montage we're going to have of toure? >> i'm crossing all my fingers and toes. >> neil patrick harris is hosting this year for the first time. he's going to sing. he's going to dance. he says i know what's going to happen. i know four days out, three days out i'll think everything is wrong and it'll turn out okay. how do you top ellen? everyone remembers that selfie with the celebrities. >> he's going to have to do a vine. that's the only way to top it. >> or a snap chat. >> he said he kind of wants a
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scandal for himself. >> i think he'll be great. he has big award hosting experience, though. he has done the emmys. he's done the tonys like four times. it's a thankless job, though. because, what? he's 15 minutes out of a three hour show. everyone is hoping something goes wrong so they can all social media it. when he disappears they go where did he go? >> why do we do that? we're such haters. >> social media as a verb? >> yes. >> i'm with you on "the boyhood" one by the way. my problem with "bird man" is -- i haven't seen the movie, but i hate it. >> 50% of it is because of toure's fierce advocacy for it. but the title. >> do you not love poetry? is that the problem with the two of you? >> not only is it a bad
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subtitle but there's a pa parentheses parentheses. >> we have all had that moment running in our underwear. we have all been there. >> you don't know what happens in the ending. it is very confusing. >> i'm supposed to ask you about this. the best animated film there's controversy here. usually a very quiet category. maybe this year the most controversial because of the snub of "the lego movie." >> why did it get snubbed? >> did they just not get it? they look like plastic figures. it is herky-jerky animation. >> is there politics behind it?
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>> usually the biggest movie wins in this category. >> they might not have gotten it. it has this uplifting, fun set of songs and montages. also really cast doubt on a culture that commercially and otherwise tells kids they should be happy all the time when a lot of children don't feel happy all the time. there's nothing wrong with that but i don't know how they pick it. maybe they didn't get it or they didn't like it. what i wanted to ask you about are these films that are not so mainstream. are you okay? do you have a problem? do you want to shake your head more? >> no, i'm looking at abby. do you have a problem with that? >> you can tell i have a problem with it because i'm asking if you're okay. what i have a problem with is films that aren't right down the middle. "gone girl" an amazing book an amazing movie. is there an issue that it is so
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weird and dark means they don't want to give it the award? >> generally the stranger edgier stuff doesn't fair well at the oscars. subtly don't play well to voters there. the big poppy mainstream thing are what people can get behind. >> do they worry if we celebrate this movie too much we're celebrating something that is essentially bad viegtright? you have a protagonist that's doing some really bad stuff. there's not necessarily any punishment for it. >> i think "bird man" might win because of what it makes the voters feel. yes, art is important. hollywood is important. that's something they can get behind. the message of "gone girl" is little iffy.
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maybe they don't want to vote for it. >> a lot of people thought "gone girl" wasn't that great of a film, but when you have actors doing really hard things that they go for. >> the rule is the most acting not necessarily the best acting. if you can have some sort of potentially fatal illness, that's good. if you can play a real person and you have to become that person that doesn't hurt. that's the thing. she doesn't have any of those hooks that could give her campaign a little bit of a bump up. >> every year we have this debate. what is the worst movie to ever win best picture? >> you know it's funny because just this week i wrote a piece about a movie that is widely considered the worst. it is called "the greatest show on earth." it won best picture in 1952. >> what would you say in the last 20 years or so?
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>> i wasn't a huge crash"crash" fan. >> it was a good movie. >> are they going to hold up in 20 years? >> did kevin costner beat -- thanks for being here. that's a wrap for "the cycle." "now" with alex wagner is next. tomorrow morning bright and early at 8:00 a.m. eastern on "up." it is time for the "your business" entrepreneur of the week. when times got tough, chip found success by thinking small, allowing customers to place as many small printing orders as they like and actively pursuing more business to business relationships. for more watch "your business" sunday mornings at 7:30.
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