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♪ the oscar goes to -- who gave this son of [ bleep ] his green card? "birdman." >> they want me to talk because i'm the worst-speaking english guy here? maybe next year the government will inflict some immigration rules to academy? >> this has been a tremendous experience. this guy is as bold as bold can be and it was just a tremendous

honor for me to -- look it's great to be here. who am i kidding? this is just a great time. >> that is good stuff. 6:00 on the east coast. mark halperin john heilemann. willie is back. >> good morning, team. >> welcome back man. >> where have you been? >> over there, over here up here down there, doing a little this or that. >> crazy, man. we're back? center. >> i agree with that. >> back with a wealth of experience now. >> even better willie geist. >> you need to come home willie. >> here i am. >> you came back. did you watch last night in? >> a lot of it. >> not a lot. i was kind of falling off once i heard everything is awesome. that's all i wanted to hear anyway. >> that was cute. >> it was great. >> it kind of went as predicted. i don't think there were any huge surprises. >> have you seen "birdman"? >> yes. i thought "boyhood." had such a blast watching it but the had that "birdman" was shot

as a single cut movie and the "boyhood" shot over 12 years, cool making. >> mika your highlight, patricia arquette? >> i'm usually like stay out of politics when they are winning ans a kor oscar and go off in a different direction but this was timely and applicable to things we have heard out of hollywood lately. i thought her speech was amazing. >> it really was. let's get to the news. we'll have much more on the oscars later including lewis' perspective. >> he was there. he instagramed himself. >> i was thinking all night, why watch this show. i wonder what lewis thinks. >> he was thinking hard. i think it hurt. >> we can only get him to weigh in on isis next. let's get to that. we start this morning over sea where's the search is under way for three british schoolgirls who may be attempting to join isis. two are 15 years old. one is 16 the they left their

home on tuesday and flew to turkey. at this hour that is where british police are search for them. surveillance footage released by scotland yard shows the three girls traveling to the at the airport. their families are pleading with them to return home. >> she didn't take anything with her. clinging on to the bits that we have and we just want them to come home. if you watch this baby please come home. mom needs you. you're a baby. >> and this really comes right along wall street's lead story this morning talking about any jihadists are slipping the european net. >> it's a mystery to an extent. i know people can point to why young people are drawn, but i still think there's a bigger mystery behind the recruiting. my brother was talking about that at the chamber of commerce the other day. people are still trying to figure out how this evil empire can draw in young people. >> they're doing it.

>> it comes amid a new propaganda video that appears to show the militants training young children. isis calls them quote, cub fighters." criticism to launch recapture mosul. a kurdish commander says he doubts the u.s. will be able to train 25,000 iraqi forces in two months. and iraq's defense minister is stunned the pentagon is showing its hand to the enemy by announcing the timeline. but a senior military official tells "the washington post" the u.s. hopes many isis fighters will leave iraq's second largest city before the offensive begins. >> let's bring in nbc news chief foreign correspondent richard engel live from istanbul and bill neely. richard, let's start with you. what's the latest in the proposed mosul offensive that seems to be shocking everybody from generals in baghdad, the announcement of it at least, to

john mccain in washington, d.c.? >> i think we're seeing a lot of confusion, frankly. centcom had a series of leaks telling reporters that this offensive was going to come that it could come in april, maybe even before april. that it would involve 25,000 troops and that kurdish peshmerga fighters were going to work hand in glove with the iraqi army and that maybe some american ground troops would be involved and think would dislodge isis from the city of mosul, which is the sighsisis capitol. when i've been speaking to many military official, retired and current, they're expressing a lot of doubts. how are you going to do this why are you announcing it ahead of time what happens to the city of mosul? it's very likely they say that isis will keep the people in the city as human shields and that there could be an enormous number of casualties. there are doubts the iraqi army is ready, doubts the kurdish

forces are willing to work with the iraqi army. i'm hearing a lot of skepticism about this. can the u.s. military force the iraqi military to get in their jeeps and go to mosul? yes. but then what and what happens to the city? >> bill neely, it almost sounds like variation of the shock and awe approach except shock and awe by words and not bombs. isis does not seem to be the type of fighting outfit that would dissolve in the night. may we see perhaps a long-running siege through the summer? >> yes. i mean the u.s. strategy the western strategy against isis really is a, far from clear and its success is far from clear. clearly kobani was a success. the last time i was there the kurdish fighters were telling me that all the air strikes were doing were effectively holding isis in check, in place. the idea of pushing them back

of actually achieving battlefield success is something entirely different. we see this as well in the story that you mentioned earlier about isis videos of the girls being lured to syria, possibly to become jihadi brides. we still see isis in a social media sense and in a propaganda sense on the offensive. and it seems that western politicians and either politicians on both sides of the atlantic have been saying this over the weekend that we seem to be failing both on the battlefield and in a social media sense to really push back against isis and stop their advance. >> willie? >> richard, it's willie. i think a big question a lot of people have, especially here in the united states is who exactly are these forces that are going to be fighting in mosul in april or may or whenever it comes? they said 25,000 troops. are they iraqi troops where do those troops come from are they prepared for this fight?

if not, how many u.s. troops are involved? i think a lot of people probably watching this show are wondering what this means for the united states engagement. >> it would probably be iraqi troops who are now deeply infiltrated by iranian forces. so there's complications there. there are also shiite militias in the mix. what the u.s. would likely try to do is use air power, to bomb mosul extensively, and then try and defeat isis to a point that the iraqi army wouldn't have to really do that much fighting. that they could walk into the city and plant their flags and claim victory. that's theoretically how it might go. but it's very hard to dislodge an enemy just with air strikes. there are concerns that mosul would be koob booby trapped. isis in mosul has been expecting an offensive now, certainly now that it's been telegraphed.

even beyond mosul, when i talk to sources in the u.s. military they say okay we've been focusing on kobani we've been talking about mosul now. but the isis problem is much more global than that. there are now around 2,000 isis militants in libya who are going around to all of the different hard-line religious leaders and saying, join us or we'll kill you. and most of them are joining up. why the u.s. is focusing on mosul and other tactical options in iraq the -- another state seems to be falling to isis. >> richard engel and bill neely, thank you very much. >> thank you guys. >> two more points. shoppers at malls across the country are at the center of a new terror threat this morning because of a new video released by the al shabaab terror group. they're calling for attacks at malls in the u.s. canada and britain. they specifically mentioned three malls, including the mall of america in minnesota.

it is largest mall in the united states with more than 500 stores and about 40 million visitors per year. mall officials say security has been increased and local police and the department of homeland security say there is no credible threat linked to the mall. store employees also reported typical customer traffic on sunday. on nbc's "meet the press" homeland security secretary jay johnson urged americans to be vigilant. >> i'm sure that security at this particular mall will be enhanced in ways visible and not visible. but it also involves public vigilance and public awareness. if you see something, say something. it has to be more than a slogan. >> at this point you're not telling people not to go to the mall? >> i'm not telling people to not go to the mall. i think there needs to be an awareness. there needs to be vigilance. you know, be careful obviously. it's a new phase. we're in a new phase right now. and that involves public

participation and our efforts. >> al shabaab is the same group that claimed responsibility for the 203 siege in a mall in nairobi, kenya. 67 people were killed in that attack. let's move on to politics now. expectations are high for wisconsin governor scott walker who is said to strayed cpac this week. his answer on a series of questions have some doubting whether he is sfbtly battle tested for a run for the white house. when asked over the weekend he told "washington post" reporters he doesn't know if president obama is a christian. he said quote, i've actually never talked about it or i haven't read about that. i never asked him that. you've asked me to make statements about people that i haven't had a conversation with about that. how could i say if i know either of you are a christian, walker went on to say. to me this is a classic example of why people hate washington and increasingly they dislike the press. the things they care about don't even remotely come close to what you're asking about.

but later a spokesperson told the paper, of course the governor thinks the president is a christian. he thinks he's kinds of gotcha questions distract from what he is doing as governor of wisconsin to make the state better and to make leaf bitter for people in his state. >> what do you think about that question? >> i think that you have a great blog in politico talking about how these questions need to be answered, but i am curious about the questions because they are a bit divisive. i mean does "the washington post" looking to scrum up a headline. >> you think it is a gotcha question? >> well, look -- >> why would you ask, is barack obama a christian? >> reporters' job is to ask questions. i guess a question like that could shed light on how someone thinks. at this sage of the game you just -- >> why -- i'm just curious why you ask that question. >> randomly to get a headline to hope that they fail. >> scott walker -- so there's been a huge battle inside the

conservative movement this weekend on whether scott walker should have answered the questions or not, whether he's being set up whether he should play by the rules in mainstream media. what do you think? >> i think he has to play by the rules because they are the rules that exist and you can do media criticism but there's been a period of time for the six years the president has been in office where a substantial chunk of the republican party has believed he's not american and a substantial chunk of the republican party who believes he's not a christian despite the fact that he has a birth certificate of the united states. >> it's fascinating. see that column yesterday where 41% of democrats say they don't know whether he's a christian or not. i thought that was fascinating that's become more ambiguous. >> i agree. >> it's not just republicans. >> it's not just republicanss. as you know there's been a train strain of this in the republican party and in 2012 that led to problems for an eventual nominee and other parties. so to ask the question in the light of the rudy giuliani thing --

>> which i'm much more concerned about. >> when we talked to giuliani on the show the other day i was almost going to ask him because these are dog whistles to some on the right and you want to ask the question is the party trying to moderate itself and get back to the center or stray off on the far right again like that. it's a reasonable question to ask and has a reasonable answer is the president says he's a christian, i take him at his word. >> rudy giuliani is apologizing a bit this morning in the "wall street journal." >> not really. >> kind of. >> no. >> scott walker is asked what rudy thinks he's seen his failing at cnbc there, the evolution question that was brought up before too. does this have any impact in the republican primaries? it won't be voters but what about with donors? >> scott walker is going for short-term gain. i think creating a problem for him. no other republican is answering the question the way he did. he's right the press has double standard for republicans on this kind of stuff. he's right the base really likes the position he's taking.

he sent out a fund-raising e-mail on it yesterday. and he's right that these are kind of not gotcha questions but questions that aren't about the economy or jobs or health care. what he's wrong about is you can't answer like that and expect donors and voters who care about general election electability to like that kind of answer. >> that's a bigger problem, willie, right now. he's made headlines. the base may feel good about it. the donors are going to start scratching their heads going, come on, these are softballs. the answer willie says he's a christian. don't you believe him? >> right. >> ask that of the reporter. >> then after the interview, the stairlt is of course he believes. of course the president loves america. why couldn't you say that in the moment. doesn't mean the question was a good one but there is an easy asp. let's bring in matt lewis, senior contributor columnist for "the week." you lit up twitter for the piece, "scott walker's terrible horrible, no good very bad answer." subtle headline there.

for a people who didn't get a chance to read it, why was it bad? >> it was bad for other reasons we mentioned earlier. softball question. the president is a christian. take him at his word. horrible president. i have heard from some folks who are donors attached to big donors who say, marco rubio had a question about rudy giuliani's comments and he knocked it out of the ballpark. he said that, of course, you know -- rubio basically said number one, why don't you ask democrats about all of the stupid things joe biden says but he says of course i believe that president obama loves this country. he just happens to be a bad president. that's how you answer that question. and right now you have people who are -- the hope was that scott walker could be the bridge between the grass roots conservative base and the establishment. he's beginning to erode that support from the establishment and they're saying maybe marco rubio has the better answers to these tough questions. >> hot air adds more said he

shouldn't answer the questions, and they think you're a left wing pinko for saying he should. >> these guys should call each other and say we're not going to go there. let's make a deal we're not going to go there. >> what do you say to conservatives who say don't play their game? >> look you know you can either win the argument and try to take down the liberal media. and let's be honest there is a double standard. there is a liberal media. or get ahead and win. by the way, let's look at -- i think this is consistent with conservative ethos. let's say you're a poor person. you have a choice. you can either complain about being a victim and you can rail against the machine and the man and say the game is rigged or you can work hard and get ahead. most conservatives would say you should work hard and get ahead. think of -- apply that logic to the liberal media. you can either complain and whine about the liberal media or work hard and get ahead. you can be a great communicator

like reagan. what i'm arguing is yeah it's great for all of us in the media, you know sort of center right media, watchdog groups to talk about the liberal media but if you're scott walker and you're trying to win the election, you can't be stupid. you have to answer these questions effectively. you know what, this is the big leagues. presidential candidates the not stumble that want to win, do not stumble over these questions. >> all right. >> i think that's a great point. and these elections are shaped whether we conservatives like it or not. matt on fox news and shows like "morning joe" are where you have other conservative hosts. they're shaped in the mainstream media and you should be smart enough to answer questions like this. >> much worse than scott walker former new york city mayor rudy giuliani was busy last week making a number of media appearances, doubling down on statements regarding president obama's upbringing even remarking the president doesn't love america. this morning in a new op-ed for the "wall street journal"

giuliani attempts again to clarify his controversial comments and he doesn't. >> he does. >> no, he calls it my blunt language. what is blunt language mean? if he would perhaps say, my inappropriate and untrue language. >> what does he say? >> then he would be backing off. suggesting the president doesn't love america notwithstanding i didn't intend to question president obama's motives or the content of his heart. my intended focus really was the effect of his words and his actions have on the morale of the country and how that may effect -- how that effect may damage his performance. still, the former gop presidential candidate went on to criticize obama for his, quote, inability or disinclination to emphasize what is right with america. on friday white house press secretary josh earnest responded to giuliani's earlier comments. >> i can tell you that it's sad to see when somebody who has attained a certain level of public stature and even

admiration tarnishes that legacy so thoroughly. and the truth is i don't take any joy or vindication or satisfaction from that. i think really the only thing that i feel is i feel sorry for rudy giuliani. >> you know willie i actually have been critical of rudy giuliani. i can't let a white house spokesman though say something like that when nancy pelosi and others have called republicans unpatriot for doing things that most people would not consider to be unoperatepatriotic. i'm surprised rudy giuliani went as far as he did and i couldn't figure out why he did it? >> he's always kind of walked the line but always stayed on the side of the line that maintained the way josh earnest put it his status. it felt like last week he went over the line. he said something wups and he went on with the two of you and sort of walked it back but then that very night went back in and double downed on it. >> he had a different audience

that night. >> fox news. >> the hypocrisy of it all. josh earnest was absolutely right. and quite frankly, i question the patriotism of someone who questions the president's patriotism without any policy that he's talking about behind there or any decision that he's made behind it just jeb winly lygenuinely questioning his patriotism. he doesn't own 9/11. he was great during 9/11 but, my god, his comments were off the hook. they were crazy. >> can i say i think they were off the hook too? but again, i just have to bring up, again, if democrats are going to meet their chess in self righteous indignation, i'm sorry. how many times have democrats called george w. bush or republican son patriotic over the past 10 1r5 years? >> huge double standard in the media. >> it happens all the time. >> every reporter has to look at this as a case and say this is a standard we're going to hold everybody to or a double standard? >> something didn't seem off and random about it?

>> yes, it seemed off and random but it seems off and random when nancy pelosi calls republicans unpatriotic but nobody in the mainstream media notices or cares. >> i did. >> i didn't hear you going on a tirade any time democrats call republicans unpatriotic. keith olbermann on this network said some of the most horrific things about the president of the united states. i didn't see people's hair going up in flames then. you were certainly here when keith olbermann would say things at night on this network that would make rudy giuliani look like he was at a tea party. >> i think that's a false parallel. >> no, it's not a false parallel. i heard nobody in the mainstream media's hair catching too irgoing crazy. he got away with it for years. >> what if dick cheney had newsled the hair for a woman at the white house for 23 seconds. what would the reaction of the press had been? >> i don't know. >> my god. what do you mean you don't

know. don't play dumb. >> i'm not playing dumb. >> charges brought against him. >> it's how you do it. it's all in the delivery. >> so anyway. let's just stop arguing with double standard thing. >> i actually agree. >> the sky is blue. rudy giuliani, what happened? >> look -- >> why can't he take it back? >> i find the whole thing to be evidence of incredibly incoher wrens. like when he was on our show i thought he was incoherent. i couldn't parse what he was saying. in the op-ed, he said although i call -- said the president den love his country i didn't mean to question his motive or what's in his heart. i don't really understand how those -- if i say, joe, you're evil but i don't want to comment on the character -- on your character. you're an evil person but i'm not commenting on the character as human being. it's like what are you saying? i don't understand. i just don't oh we. >> he's not helping his party. >> if you read what he says, it's literally incoherent. >> i don't understand it. matt lewis final words quickly?

giuliani, what do you think? >> first of all, joe, i think you're entirely right. there is a double standard. democrats have accused republicans of being unpatriotic. what i always argue, is should we be like the left? i think conservatives out to be number one, better. that's what i would urge them to their better and it's inappropriate and irresponsible to accuse somebody -- the president of the united states of not loving america. it's a bridge too far. rather than say, well, the other side does it too, two wrongs make a right, we ought to say, no consistently this is not appropriate rhetoric for either side. >> matt lewis, thank you very much. still ahead this hour, the secretary of labor tom for rez is our guest from the resolved ports dispute to walmart's wages decision. we have a lot to talk to him about. in our 8:30 half hour a look at how women have navigated their way into the middle class often becoming the breadwinner in the family. you're watching "morning joe." we'll be right back.

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out of the blue. incoherent and he tried like five times to take it back and just could not. now his attempt not wl journal"wall street journal" this morning. just say i'm sorry, i shouldn't have said it. turn the page and everybody run for president on the republican side, take note. it doesn't work. >> don't you agree also though it's bizarre those people run for president were asked about the comments of a guy who was mayor is a15 years ago. >> >> it's trying to see into the soul of the candidates or what their outlook is on these issues. i think these issues are a little tired, quite frankly. >> by the way, you had bush and a lot of others coming out being critical. >> check out joe's column in politico. the questions are not hard to answer. it's not hard to be human. >> we need to fly through these. >> the associated press notes, number of detainees from guantanamo bay after president obama took office.

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and robert gibbs. maureen dodd the "new york times," jeb bush's brainless trust. i've been keeping an open mind on jeb bush. i mean sure as florida governor, he helped his brother snatch the 2000 election and that led to two decade-long botched wars that cost tens of thousands of lives and trillions of dollars. >> it doesn't sound like he's keeping an open mind. >> for bushworld, jeb is the redeemer, the one who listens and takes in full sentences and makes sense. the one who will restore the luster of the bush name. but if you want to be your own person, you have to come up with your own people. his aide released a list of 21 advisers. 19 of whom had worked in the administrations of his father and his brother. if he wants to reclaim the bush honor, jeb should be holding accountable those who inflicted deep scars on america, not holding court with them. where's the shame? for some reason jeb doesn't see

it. bill kristol? >> to her question? >> yeah to her question the advisers were -- >> i'm my own man. >> when you talk privately to the bush people, this is what you do. you roll out a list of the great and the good in your own party and by definition most of them will have served in a previous administration. if clinton rolled out a list -- >> look. i'm a bush skeptic. i'd like to see scott walker or marco rubio or somebody else roll out a list of 48 or 35-year-old people who didn't serve in previous administrations. i like personally a lot of people on that list but some of them are not going to serve in a jeb bush administration. >> uh-huh. >> on the other hand -- someone like me bush skeptic, watching maureen dodd launch will an attack on jeb -- now i'm going to rally the rememberjeb. he's no rudy giuliani.

>> i think they sum up the issue you're dealing with when you're dealing with jeb bush. you're dealing with the bush family, the bush legacy. he cannot separate himself for it. he supported his father. he supported his brother. he helped his brother win. can he now separate himself from his brother's policies? no. >> i don't think he wants to. >> well, then that's what you get. >> he has to run for president on an agenda of what he's going to do for this country in 2017. no question about that. i think my republican friends slightly underestimate the difficulty of the bush legacy issue. they think, clinton is also -- that's, you know a dynasty. so bush is a dynasty to it evens out. but it's not true. hillary clinton is a pro eggs iffal woman in her own right. married to a former president. that was an advantage. she will run as her own person. she's not the daughter of a former president or a sister of a former president. >> the donors are sheep, rich sheep, very accomplished and intelligent sheep. i guess i should not be saying this now if i want to have any donor fund anything i want to do

in the future. you know their friends are for bush and bur called them. bush is impressive. i talked to several donors he's a bright guy, impressive guy. he comforts them. he doesn't have sharp edges. but i think -- i actually think he's probably maxed -- he's had a good run with the donors but i think it may be he's gotten the easy ones. i would say some are holding back. you talk privately to scott walker and ted cruz they think they will have enough money to compete. >> let's talk about scott walker robert gibbs. it's been rough week i suppose but these are the sort of things that you guys dealt with all the time. people saying oh, there's this crisis and barack obama may not get past it. there's that crisis. it all washes out in the end, doesn't it? >> a lot of it does. i do think he missed some opportunities to answer some very easy questions, the easy way, and have people pay attention to what else he was trying to do and what else he was trying to say.

and that's something that you have to learn as a presidential candidate. but i think the republican party for rudy giuliani is probably glad this is a squirmish that happened at the beginning of this cycle and not something that happened, you know in the summer of 2016 because i think this will -- this will fade away a bit just as i think in many ways mayor giuliani has faded away. >> so joe wrote in politico a very handy starter's guide for presidential candidate from the republican side if they ever find themselves confronted with these questions again. >> this joe? >> yeah. >> do you believe in evolution? >> i believe the media loves to always set up a false choice between god and science. i believe in them both. >> do you agree with giuliani on the president's patriotism. >> i'll let rudy speak for his but i think the president loves america. we he just had policies that hurt the country. >> do you believe the president is a christian? >> he says he is.

why don't you believe him? that's it. >> pretty good. >> scarborough 2016. >> it shouldn't be that hard. >> oh. >> it is frustrating. it shouldn't be that hard. >> what vp would you want? i'm trying to think. >> maybe jeb would be good to carry florida and connecticut. >> dick cheney. >> great vice president the first time. >> i will put cheney in charge of selecting my vice president. robert gibbs, you know what it's easy for us sitting around this table talking about hout easy it is to handle this. you come out a meeting. you have reporters coming at you. they shove a microphone in your face. it's not so easy, is it? you know it's -- when you're down on the tennis court at the u.s. open you see how fast those balls are coming at you. >> you definitely do. look, i think for each of these candidates they have to -- this isn't also rocket science. you start each day with what are the eight or ten things that you think or you know you're doing to get asked each day. somebody in an earlier segment

said they don't know why all the president candidates got asked the questions about rudy giuliani. well, rudy giuliani is sitting in a dinner with scott walk ir scott walker doesn't respond. they want to know what other people think. that's the way these questions are going to get asked to not just one but to a lot of these potential nominees. and you know it is up to the staff and the principle to have a discussion in the morning about what to say about these questions because it's not just going to get asked by the press it's going to get asked by voters in a town hall meeting. >> robert and bill stay with us. up next the topic of equal pay made its way into last night's oscars. the secretary of labor tom perez joins the conversation next. we'll be right back. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs.

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citizen of this nation we have fought for everybody else's equal rights. it's our time to have wage equality once a and for all and equal rights for women in the united states of america. >> yep, that was actress patricia arquette last night at the oscars using her platform, the acceptance speech to advocate for the closing of the wage gap in america. and joining us now from washington, secretary of the u.s. department of labor tom perez. very good mr. secretary, to have you on this morning. when do you think that day will woman? >> soon i hope. we keep fighting. it was a patty arquette moment last week when walmart announced they were going to lift wages of their workers. i spoke to their ceo on friday to say congratulations. we've been having an on-going dialogue about that so i was heartened and they not only were increasing wages but we talked a lot about their investments and training and building additional

career pathways. so we're going to keep moving. it's why we keep fighting for the minimum wage. it's why we're working on overtime regulation. it's why we're doing a wide range of things to make sure that people have a fair shake. that's what it's all about. >> do you agree that walmart's raising the minimum wage proves that the market is actually tightening, the job market is actually tightening and other employers will follow suit? >> well, i hope other employers follow suit. and, you know what walmart talked about when they did this, what doug talked about was the fact that when you raise wages, there's a return on investment. this was -- this was in their enlightened self interest. that is what motivated this. their investments in training and building career pathways. those are in their enlightened self interest. so i think this is an important step forward. i think we need a federal minimum wage. we need to raise the minimum wage because, you know you

shouldn't have to win the boss lottery to be able to live a better life. i talked to too many folks -- >> it's not about the boss lottery, is it? it's about the market actually tightening and isn't it more natural when the markets tighten up and the government pushes it on companies and possibly push some companies out of business? >> i disagree. the fair labor standards act was passed 70 years ago with the following premise, which is that nobody who works a full-time job should have to live in poverty. that was the basic premise of the fair labor standards act. every president since -- except for two since the passage of the minimum wage has increased the minimum wage, includeing george w. bush including george h.w. bush. and that reflected the fact that we should have that wage floor because there really is no dignity to work a 40-hour week and getting your food from the food pantry. we still see way too many people doing that. >> secretary perez, it's willie

geist. good to see you. i'm going to ask you about a different subject. you helped bridge the gap between ship owners and dock workers in this dispute, west coast ports, costing an awful lot of money not just here in the united states but around the world. what was the dispute here and how did you bridge it? >> well, the president sent me out there last week because the dispute was having a real i pact on the economy. we have the wind at our back right now and this was a potential headwind of significance. and when i got there the party as a result of some great work by federal mediator who had been out there since the first of the year had made tremendous progress in closing the gap on almost all the issues. but there was one basic issue remaining which was their arbitration system and how they adjudicate disputes that occur day to day at the ports. they were stuck on that. and so, you know it was basically first and goal at the 8 yard line but they reached

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has been doing since 1945. from up close and from a distance. and this is -- bill kristol wanted to talk about this one. >> he did not. he was being sarcastic, joe. >> daily news "sex slave, shock." apparently "the daily news" tells us this woman who is a -- using prince andrew of terrible terrible things, has made up the sex slave stories before. >> i just saw the headline. you actually read the story. impressive. you're a serious news person. >> i am. i usually don't read the news because in my business you don't have to. but here i mean how do you miss that in the "daily news," willie geist? >> i've not read in and prepared to comment. so jim halleilemann is with us and bill kristol and robert gibbs. the search is under way for three british schoolgirls who may be attempting to join isis.

two are 15 years old and one is 16. they left their homes on tuesday and flew to turkey. at this hour that is where british police are searching for them. surveillance footage released by scotland yard shows the three girls traveling together at the airport. it comes amid a new propaganda video from the islamic state that appears to show the militants training young children. isis refers to them as quote, cub fighters. meanwhile, criticism is emerging about the pentagon's plans to launch a spring offensive to recapture mosul. a kurdish commander says he doubts the u.s. will be able to train 25,000 iraqi forces in two months. iraq's defense minister says he is stunned that the pentagon is showing its hand to the enemy by announcing the timeline. but a senior military official tellings "the washington post" the u.s. hopes many isis fighters will now leave iraq's second largest city before the offensive begins. >> bill kristol, you're shaking

your head. >> i like the original story, bizarre. officials briefing show that the obama administration is serious about fighting the war, when we're going to launch an offense i. it's really ridiculous. it's an under use way to fight a war. >> it could be a shock and awe situation. >> if you want to scare -- this is a serious question that people who follow the military strategy wright want to answer. you see the videos. scores dozens hundreds sometimes of these isis fighters assembled. we can see them sometimes. why aren't we pulverizing them. in 240 isis fighters are just clobbered by a b-2 or another bomber or series of bombers or a-10s coming overhead and destroying pem. that might deter some of the recruitment and do more good than talking to a reporter about launching an offensive. i do think the orders of military are target the leaders, drone strikes, very specific. i don't know that we're really

trying to kill as many isis fighters as possible which i think would not be such a bad strategy. >> i asked the question last night, week are we not blowing up the pipeline cut off the flow of money so turkey can't buy their oil on the black-market. john heilemann, republicans and democrats, obviously john mccain is out being critical of the president almost every day in his strategy and it used to be that you had basically an alliance of three. john mccain, lindsey graham and kelly usually or another republican neocon. but now i get a sense that that's spreading and it's not just republicans. now democrats are starting to ask some pretty tough questions of the president as well. where does this go? where does the authorization fight go? >> the president is trying to chart a middle course right, to get enough votes where those on the far right who want a more expanseive authorization and those on the left who want a more limited authorization get

marginalized and the deference to the congress when the president asks for authorization, they get it. i agree with you. i think there's a large -- substantial and growing piece of the left and substantial and growing piece of the right who is objective and are growing but it's going to be a tough need to thread for the president. i think he probably will but it's going to be a lot trickier than other authorization of force and debates in the past. >> isn't it interesting when john mccain spoke in the past it used to be john mccain speaking for john mccain and, again, and a few others a war not only settled over the democrats and the american public but also most republicans. do you sense a change of that on capitol hill? >> well, they're divided in president obama has a target for them particularly as the economy gets better distracted the party from forming a real strategy and real coherent message to say what are we going to do now? the fight over the question of

whether the president gets authorization to expand and develop the war is going to be fascinating because republicans in the end should want to give the commander in chief what he wants. we're going to see lots of interesting voices including marco rubio on for rehneign relations committee saying this is what we face right now and challenging overseas. it's going to be fascinating. >> i don't think he is not asking for authorization. his asking for of authorization to limit what we can do. we're fighting the war. no republican has challenged his about to fight the war except for rand paul and a couple of these. this would limit, this would tell isis ahead of time three years and we're out unless it gets reauthorized. >> same old argument. >> it is but the republican position on this republicans always criticize we're being partisan. they want to give the president a blank check. to their credit. mr. president obama, do what it takes to destroy isis. the left wing of his party wants

to limit him. >> yeah. >> all right. another really really difficult issue here within all this the parents of kayla mueller are breaking their silence in an exclusive interview with nbc's savannah guthrie. isis claims the 26-year-old aide worker was killed in a jordanian air strike earlier this month. she was kidnapped in syria in august of 2013. her father says he has mixed feelings about the u.s. government's refusal to negotiate with terrorist groups. >> we understand the policy about not paying ransom but on the other hand any parent out there would understand that you would want anything and everything done to bring your child home. and we tried. and we asked. but they put policy in front of american citizens' lives. >> robert gibbs, a couple things strike you as you watch that

interview. number one, the more you hear about kayla mueller, the more impressive she is. incredible young woman. number two to her father's point there, everybody understands why we have the policy of not negotiating with terrorists but, my god, if it's your kid you want to do anything you can to get her out of there. >> there's no doubt you see and hear the pain that the family is going through. and understand quite honestly the real conundrum around the policy that as a father or a mother you want to have that ability to get your child back through the paying of something, you also understand that if that happens once it sort of starts a race in which any terrorist looks to take as many captives as they can in order to use that money to fuel whatever extremist activities they're involved? >> robert obviously the president takes a very hard line on this doesn't he? >> well, i think most presidents have. i mean i think you have -- this is a policy i think that's been

in place for quite some time. you know with the american government to ensure that -- i mean the negotiating with hostages is a line we've heard historically quite -- for quite a long time. >> all right. let's get to politics. we've got a lot to cover here. over the weekend, expectations are high for a wisconsin governor scott walker who is set to address cpac this week. yet in spite of winning three elections in four years his answers in a series of questions have some doubting whether he's sufficiently battle tested for a run for the white house. when asked over the weekend he told "washington post" reporters he doesn't know if president obama is a christian. he said quote, i've actually never talked at it or i haven't read about that. i never asked him that. you've asked me to make statements about people that i haven't had a conversation with about that. how could i say if i know either of you are a christian. walker went on to say, to me this is a classic example of why people hate washington and

increasingly they dislike like the press. the things they care about don't even remotely come close to what you're asking about. later a spokeswoman told the paper, of course the governor thinks the president is a christian. he thinks these kind of gotcha questions distract from what he's doing as governor of wisconsin to make the state better and make life better for people in his state. recently scott walker has struggled with other questions as well. two weeks ago while in london walker declined to answer a question from a moderator on evolution. >> are you comfortable with the idea of evolution? do you believe in it? do you accept it? >> for me i'm going to punt on that one as well. >> no. >> no. >> that's a question a politician shouldn't be involved in one way or the other so i'm going to leave that up to you. >> and last week at a private walker event rudy giuliani created a stir by saying he doesn't believe president obama loves america. and here is how walker responded on cnbc.

>> the mayor can speak for himself. i'm not going to comment on whether the -- what the president thinks or not. he can speak for himself as well. i love america. i think there are plenty of people, democrat republican independent, who love this country. >> bill, why do you think generally these answers have been so tortured? put aside whether or not he should be asked those questions. that's one side of it. why is it so difficult to answer these questions? >> i think he's done fine. watching this and i give you guys for credit for showing the extended clips. he's a reasonable guy. gets a question about evolution, what does it mean to quote, believe in evolution. there are many different aspects of evolution. is he implying he doesn't believe in the bible? he's reasonable to say i'm not going to give some eight-minute answer on that right now. and then the same with this other stuff. i think walk ircomes out fine from this. the media is having a frenzy as they are about rudy. i think -- i'd like to see a poll on this. i'm wondering, you know. >> what kind of poll? >> whether people think politicians should have to be answering idiotic questions like

this that are utterly irrelevant to their duties as president or governor. that's a reasonable question if walker said i'm changing the curriculum of wisconsin schools so they can't teach the theoryies or facts about evolution. zero evidence. it's just a gotcha question. if he misspeaks on something he hasn't thought deeply about. >> it's a gotcha question that's been asked for decades of republican candidates. shouldn't he be ready? >> if rudy giuliani pops off at some fund-raiser i'm not going to get into psycho analyzing barack obama or what does it mean is he a christian, do we know what barack obama is -- >> we can look at the three questions and you can parse them he should have answered this or maybe -- but doesn't speak to a larger question. how agile is he? when the question comes and he's not ready to answer to mozambique, if mozambique was

still a country. sorry to the folks in mozambique. when he's in a general election campaign in october doesn't it speak to his agility and political skills? >> we'll see. in six months he will have more of a pat answer. i somewhat respect him for not having his pat answer. >> you would have been able to answer it. come on bill. this is such bs. come on. just stop. >> he's not as smooth professional tv host like joe scarborough. he doesn't have decades of sitting here looking at idiotic questions from other reporters. >> just put up a mirror to yourself. you would have been able to answer the question. >> i'm sorry. we're having the wrong argument because what rudy giuliani said again and again and again and then couldn't back up from it to save his life is far worse than any of this stuff with scott walker which he just didn't

answer as gracefully. >> bill kristol, does the president love america? let's see your answer. >> no one said he's unpatriotic unlike the attacks on push and others. >> oh, come on. >> the president loves his vision of america but it's not in fact the vision of america that some of us live and he's much more struck by explaining america's faults and apologizing for america's faults than other americans have been. >> are you supporting what rudy giuliani said? >> semi supporting absolutely. >> deeply personal. how did rudy giuliani grow up? look at his background. are we going to compare? >> that's why i don't get into that kind of stuff. i think it was silly of rudy to go there. >> he's trying to answer the question. >> the question is is rudy giuliani patriotic? is america's mayor patriotic doing what he did over the past four days? >> rudy giuliani is entitled to pop off and say his mind. >> really? i guess that's the american way. the right to free speech. >> oi my god, it's insulting

the sovereign. we are not allowed to question anything about what president obama does? doctrine that americans rebelled against that you're not allowed to criticize presidents. >> i'm letting you after trying to pent me as an elitist, i don't go around giving -- let's go to robert gibbs. robert gibbs this must be all, all very enjoyable to you as a democrat. >> i'm stunned at like how many times do you have to watch the car accident before you like prevent the car accident. bill, does the president love the country? yes. just stop. just stop. just give the answer. you know? >> if i were running for office that's what i would do. >> well, but here's the thing. if scott walker wants to talk about what he wants to do for the country then answer the questions that are easy and "the washington post" never writes a story about what scott walker said to you know that really tough gotcha reporter dan balls, do you believe the president is a christian. if he says yes, they don't write that story. they might write on what he says. that's what you've got to learn

as a presidential candidate. get rid of all the shrilly we cans. >> bob costa of course no flaming left wing marxist. >> he made a mistake by not having robert gibbs as his communication adviser. robert would be excellent and not having his pat answer. he was being honest. he was so bewildered by the question, the idea you would ask one politician about the private religious beliefs of another politician is so bizarre that i don't blame walker for being a little stunned? >> that's bizarre? >> yes. >> we had a debate about whether the president was a christian, whether he was a muslim. >> got caught in that. >> we didn't have that debate. scott walker never has participated in such a debate. no theorist republican has. >> look at the answers that were given by haley barbara on "meet the press" yesterday. go watch that tape. that's an easy question and it should be answered. you don't have to have me as your communications adviser though i would say this. the you're rudy giuliani and starting a speech by saying i know this is a horrible thing to say, i would say the communications adviser stop

saying it. these are easy questions, bill. you're like getting into this twisted, tortured the media this. it's just like -- just answer the question and get out of it. it's just so easy. >> private citizen. people are allowed to volunteer their politician. >> he's supposedly america's mayor. >> yeah. >> really? >> this isn't hard. this isn't hard. it shouldn't be hard. and i will tell you this. there's a huge impact on our political and civil discourse as it relates to this. if you're a supporter of president obama -- hold on. if you're a supporter of president obama and the other side believes you don't love your country, isn't it hard to sit down and make compromises? if you're somebody who accuses the other side of not loving their country, how do you sit down and come to common ground? this is the impacts of what -- >> i have to say, i'm just looking at abc news headline from 2008 that mika pulled up. hillary clinton says obama muslim rumor not true.

quote, as far as i know. >> easy answer. just answer the question. >> and he's sayshe's saying that in her paid teach tomorrow too. >> as far as i know. >> it is's. >> i it is easy. as i said robert shs when they ask questions of christians, he says he is. why don't you believe him? what's wrong with you? why can't you take a man at his word about his christian faith. when he says jesus christ is his lord and savior why are you still asking me dan and bob? why don't you take the president at his own word? judge not the ye not be judged. this has been going on for a long time time. >> dog whistle stuff. >> you had one of the most priceless quotes about the clintons yesterday from this week, amy who follows the clintons. >> from the "new york times." she covers the clintons. i asked to ask her this week why is hillary clinton still giving these paid speeches and the

clinton foundation taking this money from foreign governments? it's a gratuitous kind of way to give your opponents legitimate foder. whatever you think about the john kerry nonsense but it is weird to be giving these paid speech necessary 2015. amy said what hilly world would say is it's expensive to be a clinton. that's a great sentence. that's a good justification. >> it is kind of curious. >> and it is kind of expensive to be a clinton. that's true. >> rudy giuliani owes the president and the republican party an apology. >> i think it's nuts. i think it's nuts. i think it's all nuts. i think the paid speeches that they've continued, the idea that they loosen the restrictions after she came out of the being secretary of state. you remember bill clinton stopped raising money for many foreign governments and companies that had dealings with the state department while she was secretary of state. the idea when they came out they loosened the restrictions again, totally insane. i think it does go to it's

joking to say it's expensive to be a clinton but they have throughout their political careers been obsessed and insecure about money, whether it's on the political side the thing they feared most is being underfinanced. on the philanthropic side their obsession with money leading them down to the lincoln bedroom and down every -- this has been a hallmark of their careers. and in some ways it served them really well because they have won a lot of elections by being well financed but in this case i think she is giving her opponents a huge amount of foder that could come back to haunt her later. >> if only we had a barack obama to challenge her in the democratic primary. i think she is so vulnerable now. >> nobody is going to step up though are they? >> apparently not. >> wow. bill kristol, thank you very much. robert gibbs, thank you as well. coming up david ignatius and paul reichhauf join us ahead. with his bare hands. that story is ahead. we're back in a moment.

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line rescue coordinators says all line has been cut away except a small fragment in the whale's tail which should fall out naturally as the wound heals. >> one of the three newspapers i read every day. >> we get it delivered. >> i think of sarah palin actually answered the question she would have said the anchorage, the "new york times," and "hawaii today." "usa today," michael phelps is engaged to long-time girlfriend nicolle johnson. 18-time olympic gold medalist announced his engagement to the former miss california in an instagram photo with a caption" she said yes. johnson posted her own picture saying i'm going to be an mrs. they've been dating since 2007. phelps finished up his six-month suspension from usa swimming following his second dui request. >> sarah palin newspapers, that's another question that a democrat would have never been

asked. they thought, oh, she's from alaska. remember that snl skit about manhattan types going up to alaska. there was such a huge -- that question would never have been asked of a liberal democrat. >> i'm not sure that's true. >> please. >> i can't think of one -- i don't know how to say this carefully. but the question was appropriate. >> because she was a republican that people were trying to -- >> no the question was appropriate because nobody knew anything about her and they wanted to understand more about her and was the answer not incredibly revealing? >> i think people on your twitter feed will find that you a being refreshingly liberal today. it will be very happy. >> actually tapping into journalism. that question was like a pivotal moment because it revealed a great deal about sarah palin. >> no i don't think so. >> and that's what questions are supposed to do. >> okay. >> but like these other questions you agree there's an easy answer right?

>> we're beyond that. >> there's an easy answer. but at the same time, the question would not have been asked of, say, john kerry, senator kerry. >> well, because -- okay. >> because, you're a liberal and because you were just about to say that you didn't think she was smart because she didn't go to an ivy league school willie and she's from alaska. still ahead, oscars. weren't they wonderful last might? >> fantastic. i loved graham moore. >> he's great. >> most people didn't know who he was before the oscars. remember when we had him on the show? we're going to show you that's changed now and why after his incredibly emotional and moving acceptance speech. >> how do you talk and sneeze at the same time? congresswoman tulsi gabbert of hawaii joins the table. ♪ edith piaf "no regrets" plays throughout♪

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to not go to the mall. i think there needs to be an awareness, there needs to be vigilance, and, you know be careful, obviously. it's a new phase. we're in a new phase right now. and that involves public participation and our efforts. >> homeland security secretary jay johnson responding to a new terror threat against american shopping malls. joining us now democratic congresswoman tulsi gabbert of hawaii. she served two combat tours in iraq and vice chair of the democratic national committee. >> you're one of the first two female combat veterans elected to congress and you've been critical at times of the president's response to isis. what should he do? >> i think it's important for us to look first and foremost on recognizing how we defeat this enemy. i go back to some of my training as a soldier and recognize that in order to defeat your enemy you first have to identify them understand them and then understand the tactics and the strategy necessary to defeat

them. >> so what's the president not doing? >> when we look at isis what i believe the president of the administration needs to do is really understand the ideological motivation behind groups like isis behind groups like al qaeda and the fact that when you look at the 40 plus groups around the world who are committing these atrocious actions the one common element is this islamic extremist ideology that not only motivates them but primary recruiting tool. we have to defeat them militarily and ideologically. >> you tweeted, barack obama and i greet each other with a hug, able to disagree without being disagreeable. does the president understand your concerns? >> i hope so. i think that he has good intentions but i think it's important for us to really look at all sides of this and understand at its core what's the root cause and motivation of these people who are conducting these things and how we stop their momentum and how we defeat them. >> do we understand the enemy

enough? >> no. >> what is it that we don't understand? >> understanding that this is not just people who are being motivated because they're poor or they are feeling alienated or they're looking for some kind of violence or excitement in their life. this goes to a much deeper theological motivation ideological motivation and unless we defeat that as well as a strong military defeat, we're going to continue to see more recruits popping up. >> what do we know about what's drawing these recruits in? i would agree with you, it's not just their economic situation or their feeling astrosized. there's something else. >> they're looking for some kind of purpose to their lives. when they look at what isis and al qaeda and these groups are offering them they're promising them, if you go and do these things, if you become a martyr you conduct this jihad, then you will go to heaven your family will be taken care of it's a spiritual ideology that's drawing them in which is what has to be defeated.

>> i'm curious what you think as someone who served a couple of tour someone who has been shot out unlike most of the people who in america who are on tv talking about sending troops in to defeat isis. what do you hear when you hear we will send a limited numb ore of troops in over in three years. it seems that there's no quick and easy way to defeat this enemy. >> that's absolutely true. there is no quick and easy way, but the question of whether or not to deploy large amounts of u.s. ground troops is directly tied to the need to understand the enemy's ideology because if that were to happen if we had large numbers of u.s. troops deploying it would play directly into their recruitment propaganda which is this is you know, the infidels in the west waging war against muslims and it would increase their ability and their strength to grow and the actions in their war that they are waging. which is why it's so important for us to empower and arm the kurds, empower these sunni tribes empower the egyptians,

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on the energy front we were forever going to be mired as second rate economic power down the road. it's amazing how quickly things have changed. energy evolution has come along. what's caused it and what's the impact on america? what's the impact on companies like yours? >> yes good morning, everyone. and nice to be with you. the impact is amazing. it's simply about technology. you know, the application of technology to energy problems in the united states and really around the world but certainly if our country the last 50 years are what's made this supply where it is today. of course, the fracking technology that's come out of nowhere although it's been around for many many years, it took off in the last 15 years, has really changed the supply game for the united states and we find ourselves now with lots of energy and obviously a lot lower price for energy which is in the long run really good news for the economy. >> so what does it mean for the economy? what does it mean for america moving forward? >> well, it seems to me that

with $2 to $2.50 gasoline $3 to $3.50 diesel fuel interest rates at 2% where they are, i can't imagine a bad scenario for the united states over the next 18 months or beyond. >> yeah. >> it's like a big stimulus program laid right in everyone's lap. now, the transition for a lot of companies, caterpillar being one, is going to be a little bit tough and rocky. but overall the economy should benefit from this down the road. i think we will all see that as it comes. when hasn't plentiful, inexpensive energy helped the economy of the united states? and lots of things manufacturing and doing all the things that really has made this country what it is over time. >> willie geist, come out of left field. i just woke up one morning, opened up the "wall street journal" and saw that the united states was going to be the number one energy producer by 2020. i mean i think we're already -- we're -- >> the game has changed a little bit. >> look how quickly. if you look just last summer oil hit $99.50 a barrel now it's

$52 a barrel. it happened in a matter of months. doug what's the most promising alternate energy you see out there? we hear people talking about wind, solar, natural gas, shale. what's the one you believe in most and will be best for this country? >> you've got to look across the gamut. we've got things like alternative gasses. everything from methane and landfills, solar, wind as you mentioned. and i think all of those are fairly minor players at the moment but growing quickly. i think we've got to find a way to use them all. i come back to what i sid, it's about technology. if w. the amount of investment we can put at this now with lots of forward motion and economic growth, i hope we should see a game-changing event coming up. we use energy in our factories. we put diesel engine in just about every product we make. we sell to these. we like locomotives. you can imagine a fuel burn in a locomotive in a year's time and rail companies ought to work its

way back to consumers. we're pretty optimistic what we see about energy burn and changing the dynamics of our economy. in the meantime it's going to be a little bit painful for those of us who supply products to the oil and gas business. >> if you could break washington gridlock on two issues that would help your company and the economy overall, what would they be? >> tax reform and infrastructure. i've got a long list but those two come quickly to mind. tax reform i think everybody knows both corporate and individuals are complicated thing. it takes up a lot of time. it's just way too complicated. infrastructure investments, it would help cat ererpillar because we make construction equipment that benefits from that but our country is falling behind competitively. i do worry about that long term when i go to other countries and see lots of infrastructure happening. we can do better than this. those 22two would help our company and the economy out as well. it's very difficult though around infrastructure to find out ways to pay for it. >> you're talking about tax reform.

obviously caterpillar has been in the news because of a dispute with the irs. if we have a dispute with the irs in our personal life may be talking about, you know thousands of dollars here thousand of dollars there. with caterpillar it's much bigger. how is that resolving itself? >> well, we're working very closely with the irs and a number of federal agencies through all of the situation. it's a tax situation we've been involved with for many many years. we're cooperating fully and we will prevail ultimately in the end. it gets back to the point if we can simplify the code broaden the base i think we can see economic growth take off as a result of that. we have every time it's happened in the past. it's just been too long since it's happened. >> there was a concern that caterpillar may move out of peoria. recently you gave the news that it's staying home. >> we did. we did that on friday. of course it was received very well here in peoria illinois. we've been looking at a study for a couple of years about a

new headquarters, building that we need. the current one we have is almost 60 years old and going to be needing replacement. we said on friday we'll stay in peoria. we have a big install base here about 16,000 people in peoria area and 23,000 in the state of illinois. i think that's been good for our company and will be good for our company in the futures well. >> doug oberhelman. this thursday our series continues, the struggles some families face every day in the coldest months of the year. their stories and the inventive entrepreneurs who are trying to find new ways to keep the lights on. still ahead, racism fundamentalism, and islam here in america. those are just some of the hot button issues that one broadway play is tackleing head on. the pullitzer prize winning playwright still ahead on "morning joe."

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offers himself up. >> what? to be searched? >> i know they're looking at me. i figure why not make it easier for everyone involved. >> those agents are working hard not to discriminate. here's a guy, walks right up to them and calls them out. >> pure unmitigated, passion aggression. >> if the world was so forth it coming coming, the world would be a different place. >> it's racial profiling. >> honey, i know what it is. >> a clip from the pulitzer prize winning play. very good to have you onboard this morning. this looks amazing, and it's art lifted from your life to an extent. i'll read a line. you're naive and well-meaning and on a collision course with history. a line actually said in your home part of the inspiration. rain in explain the background. >> it's always difficult to sort of account where something comes from as an artist. i've always thought a good

dramatic idea is the meeting point of three or four ideas, and one of the things that fed the inspiration for "disgraced" was a dinner party at my house in 2006 where a simple conversation about islam and the world sort of shifted people's relationships, in subtle ways and that plant added a seed. it becomes more seeded in the play but you have to stay engaged. >> in the play there's a dinner party, all goes downhill from there or whats? and who were the players and what are their backgrounds? >> the play is really about muslim-american corporate attorney by the name of ameer kapure. hiding his history from the jewish bosses. in the course of the play that comes out. one of his colleagues is there and his life unravels.

so that's the basic sort of story of the play, and you have two couples at this dinner party, ameer and his wife she's wife, an american an artist inspired by the islamic tradition, and then you have ameer's colleague from jory who you saw just say that joke. >> so addressing this through art. you've said, "for a lot of people to see or hear the worz muslim is not too dissimilar from hearing the word cancer." explain that. >> such a negative violence so much fear associated with islam, with muslims what have you, that it's a knee-jerk reaction. i mean i get it. when you're watching the news and the leading stories every day are about violence in the middle east, or the threat to your way of life here you don't want to hear about it anymore.

you want to hear about other stuff. so it's a challenge as an artist writing. i'm trying to write to the american experience, the human experience but doing it through a particular lens of muslim identity. >> and then the question is what do you learn? in the play and in life, about addressing these issues have have you been following the white house struggling to deal with islamic extremism versus different versions of the definition of the word and how has that helped or hurt? >> i mean they're getting paid a lot of money to figure those things out. i don't get paid enough to have any idea. >> mark halperin? >> what makes -- since 9/11 what is happening in the united states that makes you most optimistic that things will be better in terms of understanding islam? >> you know i mean i think there are a couple of different responses to that. i think some people feel that you know what muslims are going through now is not too dissimilar from the sort of things that catholic americans went through and jewish-americans have gone

through, italian-americans. they're important similarities and differences. at the end of the day, having an opinion is a liability for me as an artist in the sense that i spend a lot of time trying to identify with people who have very different opinions than my own. so that's really my my practice is making sure that i am open to what other people think. as far as whether i'm optimistic or not, i'm hoping that either way there will be good stories in it. >> that's what you work with. "disgraced" runs through march 1st. a week to get to this. great cast on bradway. congratulation grargs congratulations on your success. and nbc news chief global correspondent bill kneel hey new details on the search for three missing schoolgirls who may be attempting to join isis. also ahead, more for

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it out. on friday a new finance minister tried to reassure people in the greekest possible way. >> sometimes you need to tie yourself on a mast in order to get where you're going and avoid the syrons. we attempt to do this. >> okay. that's not that reassuring for two reasons. first, everybody in ulysses crew dies in that story and ithaca falls to absolute [ bleep ] in his absence. secondly is that a popped collar? because if you were trying to get an entire continent trust you, it's not a great idea to show up looking like pitbull's uncle. >> there you go. halperin is with us. >> quite a discussion so far. >> spirited. no holds barred. >> well you're so -- i've never seen you to be completely wrong, but today -- >> am i completely wrong today? >> yes, yes. it's all right. >> for the kids on twitter, you have been very very liberal,

and they have to really like the return of mika. it's like you've come back from the south of france refreshed and tan and rested and -- and you've actually -- >> more liberal than ever. >> more liberal than ever. >> vibrant. >> saying it like it is and you all are afraid to say it. >> newt would call you a mcgovern-ic, and yes you are. you should be proud. embrace that. >> i absolutely am. start with the news and then we'll get to that part, all right? if you still dare. >> sputter about your left wing ideology. >> okay. and you can paeg to the baseappeal tos base. training young children isis refers to them as "cub fighters." meanwhile criticism is emerging about the pentagon's plan to launch a spring offensive to recapture mosul. doubting the u.s. will be able to train 25,000 iraqi forces in

two months and iraq's defense minister says he is stunned that the pentagon is showing its hand to the enemy by announcing a timeline. a senior military official tells "the washington post" that the u.s. hopes many isis fighters will now leave iraq's second largest city before the offensive begins. this all comes amid a search under way for three british schoolgirls who may be attempting to join isis. two are 15 years old. one is 16. they left their homes tuesday and flew to turkey. at this hour thooshgs, that is where priten police are searching for them. surveillance foot sach shows the three girls traveling together at the airport. >> bring in nbc news chief foreign corners richard engel and bill neely. bill begin with you. what do we know about the search for these girls? >> well those three skillgirls should have been back at school this morning after a short break. instead, their friends are back

at school expressing shock that the three girls are certainly in turkey and may already be in syria. i say, "may" because we don't know. their distraught families and police don't know exactly where they are at this hour. in fact, there is hope that because of heavy snowfall along that border maybe their entry into syria has been somewhat delayed. we don't know who they are with and, indeed nobody is quite sure exactly why they are traveling there. are they going to be so-called jihadi brides? a phrase which has had a lot of kickback here in the uk because people saying isis has organized nothing short of a pedophilia ring. it's nothing to do with jihadi brides. these girls are 16 and 15. or have they gone to rescue a friend. a 15-year-old from their same school who went across to syria in december and hasn't really been heard of since. so a lot of things that are

unclear, and as you say, british police are in turkey liaising with turkish authorities, but it's simply not clear where these girls are. >> and, bill front page of the wmp "wall street journal" today. jihadis slip european net. a lot of people in the continent finding it harder to keep track of isis members and movement in and out of turkey and syria than they expected? >> yes. and today for the first time france has enacted legislation that it passed and has removed the passports of six men who were traveling, were planning to travel, from france to syria. it's the first time they've done this. of course france still reacting to those attacks in paris on the "charlie hebdo" magazine and the french say they are preparing to withdraw the passports of another 40 men who they believe are about to travel to syria. so the whole question is, yes, how do you stop adults going to

fight in syria? but also how do you stop young girls, like these three british girls, going to syria, maybe not to fight but maybe simply to join up because of some romantic notion that they were joining a new state or some indeed more obviously romantic notion they would become the brides of isis fighters? it is something authorities across europe and indeed in the u.s. and canada are really struggling with. >> richard engel, obviously a lot of concern about plans announced for an offensive against mosul, publicly announced. concerns from baghdad all the way to washington, d.c. what is the latest you can tell us about the proposed mosul offensive? >> reporter: well i can tell you there is a lot of concern about it. when you have the kurds saying that they don't think they're going to necessarily be ready, that they do not think at all that the iraqi army is going to be ready when you have the iraqi army expressing somewhat shock and horror that the united

states is setting a date for the mosul offensive, or at least a rough timeline it does raise questions as to whether this offensive is going to happen at all. i've been speaking to military officials, and they are very concerned. they think that if there is enough american bombing, that they can effectively force an offensive, that they can corral the iraqi army, no matter what kind of condition it is in force them to do some sort of offensive in mosul while the u.s. military is bombing with some advisors very close at hand calling in the air strikes, but there are questions whether the iraqi army can hold the city. how will the street-to-street fighting go? has isis boobytrapped the city of mosul, most people think it has. they're very -- a lot of skepticism i'm hearing isis is simply going abandon mosul in fear of an onslaught. isis has been calling the

americans to come. seems to want this battle. i think right now there's a lot of questions about the mosul offensive. not just the timing, but what it could achieve and at what cost. >> richard engel, thank you and bill neely, appreciate it. both of you being here. let's go to washington now. associate ed ter for "the washington post" david ignatius. also with us senior fellow for defense policy council on foreign reses dr. jeanine davidson. david, begin with you. you've just returned from the area. every time i hear about the iraqi army is the answer to the question i get concerned. we've talked about it before in 1991. heard concerns about the fourth largest army in the world that was going to cause u.s. troops so much trouble on the way to baghdad. that discovered overnight. same thing happened again in 2003. the same thing happened again last year. why should 2015 be any different? >> i don't yet see any reason to think it will be different. the iraqi army's history of underperforming is just what you

said, joe, and i think that there's been really a lot of concern about what was seen as a premature announcement of this plan by iraqi army units, primarily to take mosul. when i was talking with the kurdish intelligence chief just over a week ago, he said flatly that in his judgment the mosul attack should be delayed, that the iraqi army wasn't ready and that the kurds did not think it was appropriate for them to do this. the only coherent account i've heard about why the sudden announcement came is it's a kind of a psychological warfare. the idea was, make isis think we're coming right away, and accelerate what has been the demoralization of their forces in mosul from reports. get as many of them out of there as possible. as often happens with psy war

through our media backfired and that was part of the reason for the strange announcement i think. >> and worked in the obama administration deputy assistant secretary of defense as well as your expertise as a senior fellow on the council on foreign relations. has isis been diminished at all so far or merely emboldened? >> well i think they have been diminished in some respects. >> how? >> i mean well this is the beauty and the beast of air power. i do think when you think about last summer and they were on a lightning streak through iraq taking one town after another, they're not able to mask those kinds of forces anymore, because they will be bombed. i mean that's the beauty of the air power. so the air power has pushed them back into the cities. so now we're in another another phase. we recognize that we can't win this thing unilaterally. can't win it with only air power. you see isis literally governing

in and controlling territory in raqqa, in mosul, especially we keep talking about mosul. so that's the next phase of the fight. they are -- they're in those cities, and they're controlling that territory, but their ability to continue to be on the march, i think harks been diminished, and that is to a good extent because of the air power. >> david ignatius when president bush was talking about the surge in december of 2006 early 2007 talked about wanting to provide enough space for a political solution in iraq. here we are seven years later, eight years later, and you come back from a region that you say is still torn apart. we still haven't had that shakedown cruise to figure out the sunni's role the shia's role. i mean is the iraqi army and going back to the iraqi armiy, is the iraqi army a non-starter

as a solution until they finally resolve the political disputes inside that country? >> joe, you know the simple way to answer you is to say that we are on that shakedown cruise and whether the ship's going to make any headway this time around, we can't say yet. there certainly is a difference. every iraqi i talk to from every part of iraq says that the new prime minister abadi is a very different person from the old divisive polarizing prime minister maliki. that's a change. the new commanders put in by the new prime minister are better. u.s. officers who worked with them and know the individuals, general by general, say better generals are leading the iraqi army now. here's something new that's in today's news. the head of al akqsar today at a conference in mecca called for an entirely new system of teaching in religious schools

throughout the muslim world as a way of breaking through extremism. that's a new element. >> that is. >> so how all this stuff will come together i couldn't tell you. i just see that you know the ship is at least moving. >> dr. davidson not asking you to predict or embrace the worst case but what's the worst case the next six months boots on the ground for isis? >> a couple worst cases. one is maybe catastrophic success, where it's sort of like the dog catches the bus. we take mosul and then what? we still have the witches' brew of the sunni and shia problems that people are going to wonder who gets to govern? who gets to control this territory? but i want to go back to something you said before. which is you know what's different about today versus '91, 2003 and even when isis had all the iraqi army fleeing? the difference is, in '91 and 2003 they were fighting us. and in the summer they were

fighting isis without us. the difference, i'm open to being kwirns edconvinced, american support and coalition support of a new trained iraqi army could have a little more success, but i do think there's still a long way to go, but it is a very different fight. >> right. >> we'll see something very long and drawn out and urban. >> you're right. i would not want to go up against norman schwarzkopf and 150,000 angry american troops. and, david, that brings us to another point. i wonder whether the president dismissing isis as a j.v. team may be something we all look back on and say, well, perhaps they would have looked more like a j.v. team if we had responded earlier, as jeanine is saying starting to see supply routes supply routes being cut off. the bombing continues. it seems to me and this is just sort of a, a gut feeling i have and perhaps i'm wrong, but

sometimes i actually am right. mika will say at least one out of ten times. that perhaps we're seeing more videos coming out at faster clip, because this is actually a movement that's on the run and it's the old art of war adage that when you're weak look strong and when you're strong look weak? >> i think my friendjeanine had it right, air power stopped their advance. whether they're on the run is probably tooer to say that. i think that you are absolutely right in identifying the moment when president obama said this is the junior varsity, is really the low ebb, where, you know we just weren't taking this threat seriously. it was coming at us. if you talked to people in the region, they knew it was coming. we just didn't get it. we didn't see the danger. we weren't willing to take risks. the president wanted to get out

of that part of the world, and i think we look back with a sense -- i look back with a sense if we'd done some things differently, the problem would not be as bad as we found it over the last year and that's tough. i think that's going to be a big issue in the coming president's campaignants all right. david ignatius and jeanine davidson thank you both for being on the show. and still ahead on "morning joe," nearly a dozen college students are hospitalized after possibly overdosing on ecstasy. the latest on their conditions and the investigation. plus loved ones are searching for answers after the apparent suicide of an air force reservist. wall rykoff brings us her story ahead.

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on the radar. also happening with sony a new report shows since last november when in breakdown happened with the cyber attack a communication breakdown between the government and executives at the media electronics company really, really contributed to some of the fallout there. that's according to the "wall street journal." and, of course, watching what's happening with greece and the macro bigger picture ars well. things in greece are far from resolved. a shorter term fix agreed upon and that involves really greece for the most part sticking to the parameters of its current guidance. now, guys looking for new reform ideas and that's what he's got to sell for the government in europe and his own people. back to you. >> thank you. joining us here at the table deputy managing editor of "time" magazine, adeke kaw jones and ceo of iraq and afghanistan veterans of american wall rykoff. good to have you. congratulations on the oscar nod involvaled with. we'll get to that in a second. we've been looking and talking about this morning understanding

more comprehensively the recruiting techniques of isis. isis not only inflicts suffering on its enemies but also in some cases on the very people who make up its ranks. nbc's jamie novagrad reports from turkey. >> reporter: 16-year-old halid says he is lost and on the run. we found him in this turkish city near the border with syria. he agreed to an interview on the condition that we not show his face. >> translator: i'm not afraid here but afraid of isis. >> reporter: he was once part of isis. he didn't like it so he escaped. it all started, he says because he wanted revenge against the regime of bashar al assad. his neighborhood was under attack. isis offered food and medicine. >> they gave you a bit of hope? and you wanted to join them. >> translator: we hoped they would become strong and fight the regime. >> reporter: so at the age of 15, he joined the isis child

army. isis calls its child soldiers lion cubs of the caliphate. it celebrates them in propaganda videos like this one. children are trained to use a rifle, given classes in religion and taught to love isis and hate its enemies. then the children are sent into combat for halid, that day came sooner than expected. his camp attacked only two weeks after he first picked up a gun. four isis fighters were killed. halid was shot in the neck. he was terrified and missed home. his mother heard he had been wounded and fond him at the isis camp. >> what did she say to you? >> translator: she said take care of yourself. >> reporter: he can't continue telling his story without crying. two months later, halid managed to escape across the border to turkey. he now lives in hiding. sleeping in a cheap hotel.

>> reporter: what would you say to a young person who came up to you and said i'm thinking about joining isis? >> translator: i will tell him my whole story. i will tell him, don't do it. >> hmm. >> ah. frightening and fascinating to get his story and radhika, it really -- it's not just food and medicine or people who are lost and vulnerable and jobless. we've been talking a lot about how isis gives young people especially sort of the promise of a role in life or some sort of i guess, focus that they don't have? >> i think that's right and alarming. i've been speaking with editors in england where the big story is the three teenage girls who are suspected to be en route to isis now. one of the things they're talking about there, these girls are from a very promising area. you know they don't -- it's hard to profile them as -- >> stereotypes. >> girls in need. and that is hugely worrying to other parents who think somehow

isis found its way on to the smartphones of their children and with very little regulation or control, they're losing their children. >> yeah. >> paul, you've been on the ground. you've actually seen over there, when you were over there, that what pulls people into this fight isn't what we in the west sometimes think pulls you into a fight. >> sometimes a lack of opportunity and this underscores a need for economic and political solutions, for young people angry and feel disconnecteded they needs jobs a purpose, an avenue to go other than isis. we have to think holistically, especially for young people looking for a way to be a part of something. >> and on "hardball," talked about jobs to prevent the spread of isis and just heard david ignatius talking about education, being a real way of pushing back against the thinking and the ideology and it is true. there is a way. it's a long-term effort but it's not to be mocked. >> it is a -- it's a long-term effort. the long term and the short term.

>> but you can't kill off of them away. they will regenerate. you need to get to the core. >> and recur the hatred doing that. >> and increasingly you kneeneed programs to rehabilitate when they come home. the hope is more like this young man will get away but we have to understand it and be able too bring them back into the fold. >> the other side of this. paul this story, caught our eye. loved ones searches for answers after the apparent suicide of an air force reservists 30-year-old, jamie brunette found dead in her car earlier this month in florida. a friend says brunette was suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder and her sister suspected may have been sexually assaulted in afghanistan. paul, each day we are reminded how severe the issue of veterans suicide is. 22 a day is the number. somehow when her photograph scrolled by on twitter with that headline it seems almost unbelievable when you think about her story. >> right. >> and everybody, everyone

around her said she had everything going for her. >> we saw this with clay hunt. clay hunt just passed the save act a few weeks ago, he was in a similar position. actively involved well known in the community and this is a terrible tragedy and underscores the fact women are also at risk. that's an underreported -- >> sometimes tougher for women. >> especially care at the vrchlts a. and issue of military sexual trauma and assault. 30% of iab members are survivors of military sexual assault and harassment and most do not report it. at higher erer risk for a lot of issues. >> got to bring the stories. we'll look for them too, as awful as they are, they help demystify the stereotype that i think hangs over ptsd. am i right? >> you are. but we're getting there. breaking it down. the save act, a big deal. "american sniper" helped. last night amazing documentary. the crisis line veterans press one which we helped represent

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when i was 16 years old, i tried to kill myself. because i felt weird and i felt different and i felt like i did not belong. and now i'm standing here and so i would like for this moment to be for that kid out there who feels like she's weird or she's different or she doesn't fit in anywhere. yes, you do. i promise, you do. you do. stay weird. stay different and then when it's your turn and you are standing on this stage, please pass the same message to the next person that comes along. thank you so much! >> i felt like that was such a powerful moment last night in a message to kids feeling desperate. joining us now movie critic for "the washington post" ann hornaday. good to have you on. what stood out to you last night? mf the biggest, best speeches and best wins? >> well that was a galvanizing

moment. i think the first galvanizing moment was patricia arquette's acceptance speech where she tacked on that call for wage equality and the wonderful shot of meryl streep whooping from the audience. the speeches were good last night. really strong. even touching on social and political issues it felt very organic and i thought they were really moving. and the musical numbers were fantastic, and usually those are the things we're complaining about the next day. it's sort of a reversal this year. we liked the speeches and the music. the show maybe not so much. >> oh the show? not so much huh? >> you know not only that and we have these. we have years where there will actually be movies that a lot of americans will have gone out to see. so they're all rooting for them and then last night. two smaller films, "birdman" and "boyhood," of course, the press and a lot of people in

washington and new york and l.a. loved but a lot of people in middle america might have said i don't think i want to stay up to see which of these wins. >> that's true. it is that -- reminds me of the year 2010 when "the hurt locker" won. a lot were rooting for it. a lot never saw it and hollywood focused on making huge comic book movies which they poked fun at at that opens number last night, the ot cars and entire awards campaign which really gets under way in september has become a way to make these films viable in the marketplace, and give them sort of earned awareness. where they otherwise might not be able to afford a big tv campaign. so when a julianne moore walks the red carpet for a teeny movie like "still alice" that gives that movie a lot more public awareness than it ever would have. so even though they're relatively small films they've

managed to double budgets in large part because of oscar campaigns. >> so we have common and john legend, a clip of that. giving a moving speech after winning best song from "glory" -- for "glory" from "selma." >> the spirit of this bridge transcends race, gender religion sexual orientation, and social status. the spirit of this bridge connects the kid from the south side of chicago dreaming of a better life to those in france standing up for their freedom of expression to the people near hong kong protesting for democracy. >> that was nice. and the director of "birdman" took time to single out the issue of immigration while accepting the best picture oscar for his film. so a lot of issues ann, put out on the table last night. >> definitely and it was -- you know, even coming into the awards season when the nominations were announced, a lot of people took issue with this year's nominees as being

overwhelmingly white and male in terms of the nominations behind the camera. so heightened consciousness about race and gender diversity within the film industry consciousness was already heightened. i feel when patricia arquette or john legend makes those comments, they were striking a chord ready to be struck last night, and they clearly keshgt lyconnected and were really well done. they didn't sound strident as much as really impassioned and grounded. >> a beautiful night. ann hornaday thank you so much. good to have you o. thanks for having me. as we go to break, louis caught up with the stars on the "vanity fair" red carpet after the big show. take a look. ♪ ♪

>> reporter: it's hollywood's biggest night and i'm at the most coveted party in town the 2015 "vanity fair" oscars party. ♪ >> just having fun. i like seeing all the beautiful people. >> it's "the" party of the oscar season. >> you get to see friends you haven't seen in many years. ♪ my heart alone ♪ how that? >> what are you looking forward to when you get inside? >> one vodka and soda and going home. i'm exhausted. >> "vanity fair" and the oscars equals -- >> prestige. >> not just a hollywood party. it's a cross-section of all of the people that "vanity fair" gets involved with touches, collaborates with. >> you never know who you're going to be seated next to. >> if you hang out at this party you will see everybody that's nominated, everybody that's won,

lost. >> starving. get moo and in and out burger there? >> if i am sober enough to remember i will bring you one on the way out. >> reporter: appreciate that. >> lady gaga was wearing gig glove sbig gloves? >> right. >> reporter: what was the pressure to perform tonight and julie andrews such an icon. >> it was a lot of pressure but i work well under pressure and i was excited to take the challenge. i wanted to just truly make her feel special for how she made "the sound of music" what it is. >> reporter: i saw you crying tonight. very emotional. very visceral. just tell me about the culmination of that moment and what it meant to you? >> i think the word you used is key. culmination. i think that song in many ways is a culmination, is an epit maization of what the film meant. >> i won we all won. everybody sitting in the audience won. no such thing as 80% of losers

when it comes to an oscar. >> fantastic performance. happy to see that honor. >> reporter: was that purely a visceral reaction or a planned speech? >> no. very very very -- on the moment. >> "morning joe." >> yes. you watch? >> "morning joe." yeah. on with no socks, joe. >> what is it like to sit in that chair, be honored in the room? >> knew i was going to lose but it was okay. because the guy that won is very good. >> reporter: said something so poignant. you said to kids call your parents, love your parents. why was that such an important thing. you tell me first. did you call your dad? >> i did call my dad. >> good. mission accomplished. it's ban great ride from the beginning. >> reporter: can i hold you it. >> yes, you may. >> reporter: oh, my god. this is so cool. i can barely hold it from the base. awesome. congratulations.

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all right. this is fascinating. a piece in the "new york times" today. joining us economic writer for the "new york times" deion searcy. some of what you touch on in this article a look at middle class and women bread winners matches research i've been doing with msnbc for a book coming out in the spring. we look at growing numbers in different sectors of women bread

winners and the impact that has on the family dynamic, but you here report on the changing face of the middle class. who are they and what are the trends you're seeing? >> well what we're seeing what we looked at here is health care and in particular registered nurses. and it looks like nursing is kind of the new factory job. it used to be were you a guy, go out to work put on overalls, punch in come home and support your family on with a middle-class lifestyle. that's not the case anymore. those jobs are held by robots now. factory jobs are disappearing from our economy. what you have now nurses who found a way to make it work and wages are going up. >> so nursing is the new factory work pap whole story in itself. >> right. >> whether that should be the case. but what numbers are we seeing in terms of how women are doing compared to the male counterparts? and what trends did you find there? >> what we found is women seem to be making it work better. right? they're more educated and a lot of jobs in the new economy

require an education. >> what do you mean more educated? >> getting college degrees at faster rates than men are. able to seize on that education and making it work. >> why aren't men keeping up? >> boy i don't know. but i think that a lot of the jobs for men that have been historically male jobs are disappearing. factory, manufacturing. >> your article points out, look at two sectors of the economy. men, more manufacturing base. those jobs have gone away. men haven't kept up as you said. and health care. obviously it's exploded since 1980 and women have got more educated and statistic here. 4% of all workers right now in the middle class are registered nurses. >> that's right. i mean a lot of it has to do with an aging population. baby beerms that's a huge generation and therapy getting older, they're going to get sick. so i think that a lot of that has to do with just demographic issues but still, these --

there are just loads of health care jobs and they're paying better wages than they used to. like if you compare them to the '80s, what a registered 234urs was making in the '80s to now is really really different. >> did it strike new your piece how candid the woman, the role taken on? >> absolutely. i think they're proud of themselves. registered nursing is a really really hard job. they're really really excited that they've found a way to make it work can keep getting -- go up the ranks and up the ladder and keep getting more education and bigger raises. >> mika real societal changes, though as women step forward and become the primary bread winner is a tough transition? >> not something we're used to and it is happening. we are in it now. more on that to come on this show. thank you so much. great piece. in today's "new york times." up next what if anything, did we learn today?

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the united kingdom is having an election in may. both parties campaigning hard especially for women voters. the conservative party accused of ignoring women in the past so the labor party may have a chance to capitalize as long as they don't make ridiculous mistakes. >> the labor party has been defending the color its chosen

for a minibus used in a campaign to try to attract female voters. the deputy labor leader harriet harmon defended the decision to use the color on the vehicle already nicknamed the barbie bus. >> wow. it is a little insulting you're trying to appeal to adult women voters the same way mattel attempts to appeal to 8-year-olds. at least barbie's pink bus had the good sense to unfold into a party bus, hot tub. that thing is sick. >> you're wrong on giuliani right on walker and the man ces mancession is fully taking effect. >> and i found out you were wrong about walker half right an giuliani. >> half right. come on joe. >> giuliani still has not apologized.

read through the entire "wall street journal" article he still doesn't go there which is unfortunate. i believe rudy giuliani is an important voice to and have the way to stop terrorism at home and abroad and takes himself off the playing field when he goes too far like that. >> and a bigger picture for candidates to kibosh statements like that so they don't have to deal with kind of appealing to the low hanging fruit of the base? >> i think there is. mike pence criticized it yesterday. marco rubio, obviously, criticized the comments. also criticizeing the press for asking and jeb bush criticized the comments. haven't seen those, but i saw this morning most republican candidates have come out and apologized. regardless what people say on the air, there are a lot of people quietly behind the scenes asking the question this morning whether scott walker is ready for prime time or not. i don't think anything that's happened over the past couple of days will have an impact in

2016. but if this continues, you will see donors moving away from him. >> long road ahead. that does it for us. if the way too early joe, what time it is? >> time for "morning joe," or "morning mika," but stick around, because "the rundown" is coming up next. and good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. first on "the rundown," a new terror threat has the united states on alert. today we're focused on an al qaeda offshoot in somalia called al shabaab. the group released a video calling on muslim supporters to attack malls in london canada and here in the united states. specifically the mall of america in minnesota. al shabaab called for a westgate style attack referring to the one that left 67 people dead. and the fbi knows of no specific credible plot they are working to county the threat.