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>> good day, everyone i'm andrea mitchell in new york kayla mueller's family is speaking out for the first time. in an exclusive interview with savannah guthrie and hear how the family felt when trying to save their daughter they saw the administration trade five soldiers for bowe bergdahl. >> during this time while kayla was being held, the u.s. traded five taliban prisoners for bowe bergdahl. how did you feel about that? >> that made the whole situation worse because that's when the demands got greater. they got larger. they realized that they had something. they realized that if they are going to let five people go for one person why won't they do this or why won't they do that. >> they were very emboldened by that move. they let us know. >> did you personally feel why

is that trade okay but something similar is not okay for kayla? >> i actually asked the president that question when we were in the white house. and he explained it to me as they were pulling out of afghanistan and traditionally when wars start to conclude you trade prisoners. and that's what he told the press and told us. yeah, that was pretty hard you know, to take. and then even in some of our communications they just said they just traded five for one. we want one for one, which was the trade for -- >> you did ask the white house to consider that? >> yeah of course we did. who wouldn't? we knew they wouldn't do it but of course we would ask. >> this is indeed heartbreaking.

joining me now in the studio savannah guthrie, anchor of "today." you had so much news let's try to unpack it. first of all, that they had talked to the president. >> yeah, as i understand it they met with him at least once maybe twice at the white house. i mean this is heartbreaking, this family was incredibly careful and thoughtful about what they said about washington's response. they wanted to make clear that they understand the u.s. policy not to pay ransoms and understand it intellectually and very, very clear, we didn't want to give them money. kayla would never have wanted us to give them money. but they spoke as parents, who wouldn't try to do everything they could to get their daughter back. isis was asking for $6.2 million. so yes, at one point you just reported and this is news you're making right here they asked for this prisoner trade for sadiki

somebody in a u.s. prison and the white house didn't do that trade. but they were desperate to try anything to get their daughter back. >> in your conversation, you asked them again about the negotiations about what kind of negotiation could have taken place. i wanted to play a little bit more of that. >> we understand the policy about not paying ransom but on the other hand any parents out there would understand that you would want anything and everything done to bring your child home. and we tried and we asked, but they put policy in front of american citizens lives. and it didn't get changed. so that's something they are going to work on i'm sure that's in the works. >> do you feel like our government did enough to help

you? >>. >> i think they wanted to but i think again, it's the policy and i don't think anyone had any idea this group would be as powerful as they were. >> they should have done something three years ago with the situation over there. >> which is what kayla said when she was home in may. >> you know this -- i feel a lot of people who have been covering this story and keeping this secret for so long felt that they had gotten to know kayla but through this you really get to know just how special this family was. >> absolutely. >> and even pick this up from watching the memorial service last week when the community came together i think it was thursday night, and the candlelit ceremony and how religious and her service mission was. >> these are people of deep deep faith who of course having

to rely on that faith in this moment. in the interview they talk about of course knowing that kayla was in captivity, held by isis and then remember there came a time when isis started executing the other hostages who they knew at one point or another had been being held with kayla. so they've gone through this unthinkable nightmare, helpless not knowing if she was alive or dead getting a couple of letters different times, smuggled out of prison by detain detainees from other countries. they've just been through so much and through it all what you do learn, the more you learn about kayla, she was someone who just had a burning desire to help others and profound and deep conscious about the suffering of others. the way her family says maybe it was naive or idealistic for her to go but she had no choice she had to. she would work odd jobs and save money and buy a ticket to go somewhere overseas to help.

she wasn't a kid who got money from her parents and vanity project. she felt it deeply. she went overseas to help. she did the best she could. >> her mom talked to you about kayla's passion. let's watch. >> saw such joy in her in helping and it was something that she was called to do, so i -- for a long time ago i accepted that i can't control my kids, i can't control any of this i've just got to put her in god's hands and let him take care of her -- >> it was her passion and there wasn't anybody that was going to stop it whether it was us her friends, her close friends, it didn't matter. >> but she knew what a dangerous place this was. >> oh, yeah. >> even told you that kayla kept a list of her goals at her bedside. >> we walked into kayla's room which was as she left it. this was a piece of paper they found in her room not sure when

she wrote it obviously before she left and it's a list it sounds like life goals but not the kind of goals i had when i was 20. they are very deep very profound and she just seemed to have this real consciousness for her fellow human being in wanting to help and have a life that was rich in service and deeds. >> savannah thank you so much for sharing this with us and our viewers, it means so much to people to know more about in young woman. she did represent the best of america and thank you for doing it. >> absolutely. >> you'll have more on nbc nightly news tonight. >> we've got a lot more on "nightly" and i hope people tune in. >> meanwhile, a frantic search is under way for three young british girls who left home left london without telling their families last week. they may have run away to join isis in syria. the teenagers were last seen tuesday at gadwick airport boarding a plane to istanbul. turkish officials say they may have already crossed the border

since they were not on a watch list. over the weekend family members appealed for their return. >> we just want her to come home, if you watch this baby please come home mom needs you more than anything in the world, you're our baby we're holding on to hope that she hasn't gone to do anything stupid. >> and nbc's chief foreign correspondent richard engel joins me from istanbul. >> here you have 15 and 16-year-olds and passports gave their ages. why would they have been passed through to the syrian border? >> reporter: well you wouldn't go through the syrian border. what would happen is you would land at the istanbul international airport and plenty of people who are 15 and 16 arrive at the international airport. that's not that unusual. the istanbul airport is one of the busiest airports in the world. it is drk you should see the

lines at the check-in counter every day. so once you arrive in istanbul which is not an unusual thing, tourists come here all the time. it's a popular tourist destination and people come here for business. once you're on the ground generally the route is you either get a car if you want to go to the syrian border and join isis, you take a bus. they used to fly on the domestic routes but those are under so more scrutiny these days. then once you get to the border getting on a bus, then you're smuggled across through a hole in the fence, smuggling networks it's not like they would have walked up to the syrian border checkpoint in turkey and presented their passports and been waved in. that may have happened but i haven't heard that has happened and generally the route in for people who want to join isis is that they cross illegally? >> what is the suspicion or feeling by turkish officials that they've already crossed?

>> there are british authorities here, police who are trying to look for these young girls. hoping that they haven't crossed in. and turkey hasn't made any definitive statements so it sounds like there's an ongoing investigation. but privately turkish officials think that they don't see any reasons why these girls would have stuck around especially after all of this publicity. generally, once people arrive here on their way to go join isis they move pretty quickly. you remember the woman linked to the french attacks, boum me deane. >> this latest video shows children being trained by isis what they call cub fighters. is this part of their, their attempt to appeal to young people?

>> reporter: i think it's part of their appeal. i think it's part of their appeal that -- their campaign to show they are doing everything they can. they are putting our videos and they are incredibly prolific showing that the kids are going to school and getting military cadet training, that they are engaged in kind of fun activities. the group is really trying to put out an impression that there is a new world to be discovered a new land of opportunity in the caliphate. and that is the message that some people in the islamic world are starting now to try and to address. you're hearing more and more comments from one of the most senior sunni officials trying to denounce isis' message but they are putting out almost what it thinks ofs a ministry of tourism

kind ofmessage. come join the caliphate, things are good here military training for your boys. >> horrifying indeed. meanwhile an al qaeda affiliate has threatened the mall of america by the terrorist group halfway around the world. are they credible? >> i think when it's a threat like that everybody is extra on guard. >> i don't really like to live my life based on those guys. it's unfair to us to have to live in fear for them. >> more next on what is being done to keep shoppers safe with congressman keith ellison of minnesota. i wish... please, please, please, please, please. [ male announcer ] the wish we wish above all...is health. so we quit selling cigarettes in our cvs pharmacies. expanded minuteclinic for walk-in medical care. and created programs that encourage people to take their medications regularly. introducing cvs health. a new purpose. a new promise... to help all those wishes come true. cvs health.

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homeland security and fbi and others have put shopping centers on alert of a terror

propaganda group said they are targeting the minnesota mall of america. keith ellison joins me now. how seriously do we take this threat? what are local and federal officials telling you? >> it's important to take it seriously but not to panic. the fact is you don't need a large scale operation to create terror. so it's very important to be very vigilant. if you hear of anyone or know anyone who is paying more atejs than they need to weird websites that might be al shabab affiliated tell somebody and be on the alert and let's not forget we live in a country where you have a right to your own opinion and things like that. >> do you think this propaganda is at all appealing to the somali americans or others who have come to this country and many of them are in minnesota in your constituency? >> i would say no it's not

appealing but then that would only apply to the overwhelming majority. there could be some limited few handful of people who might find it appealing. we still got to be vigilant. i can assure you, somali americans in my district are starting businesses going to school. we have a somali city council member elected mostly by nonsomali and school member. this is a community that is making important contributions to life in minneapolis but only takes three or four. it should be noted, one of the people who went over to get killed fighting for isis was not somali. this guy douglas mccarthy was not somali. i don't want people to think there should be undue scrutiny on this community because they are good folks doing good things. >> as a muslim-american how do you feel about the krilt six launched by rudy giuliani and others about the way the

characterizing the extreme threat, as extremist terrorists or whatever and trying deliberateryly not to label muslim americans. >> i think the president is right. why should we confirm the legitimacy of religion on these homicidal maniacs. they want to be known as the voice of islam. they are not. so why should we -- >> what do you think giuliani was up to? he backed it up a bit today in the wall street journal. as recently as yesterday on talk radio with the same appeal. >> who knows. i know it's not helpful and the president is a very patriotic man who loves his country deeply and done great things for our country. at the end of the day, conferring the legitimacy of religion on these murderers is a bad idea. what if we said timothy mcveigh

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and i will keep on urging congress to move paest some of the habits of manufactured crises and self-inflicted wounds that have often bogged us down over the past five years. they all work in your states. these are folks who if they don't have a paycheck are not going to be able to spend that money in your states. their hard work helps to keep us safe. and as governors, you know we can't afford to play politics with our national security. >> president obama just a few moments ago making a case to the nation's governors against

congressional republicans holding up the homeland security budget. joining me now for our daily fix is chris cillizza managing editor of post politics.com and new york times features writer cheryl stral burg. >> homeland security just sent out a notice to the workforce saying they are going to be hearing from their managers and division chiefs because they now have to plan for a shutdown of all but the essentials and there are 100,000 people that will have to work without a paycheck. >> honestly i think this is kind of like a bad movie. i'm kind of surprised because republicans saw the fallout the last time they shut down the government over the dispute over funding of obamacare. it was really not very good news for their party, although they did recover in the midterm elections. so we seem to be in a little bit

of a groundhog day here. >> and in fact there are some rpz especially in the senate who say this is not good for the party. what about scott walker and some of his recent answers and how the republican 2016 possible candidates likely candidates are shaping up out on the early campaign trail? scott walker was talking to dan balz and "washington post" this weekend and this was a question is the president a christian. what do you think? the answer with a, i don't know. i never talked about it or read about that. this is a classic example of why people hate washington and dislike the press. the things they care about don't remotely come close to what you're asking about. this was dan balz the most senior political correspondent at the post asking a question following up on the rudy giuliani train. >> right, look, first of all,

dan is my colleague and known him for a long time. anyone who knows him and that's not everyone watching but this is not a gotcha guy. he's the exact opposite of a gotcha guy. the other thing is scott walker i get what he's saying he doesn't like the question and thinks these sort of questions. just say i haven't talked to barack obama personally about his faith, i take him at his word which he said many times he's a christian and move on. trying to litigate out the question and his press people called them back and said the governor was trying to say -- that means they think the governor made a mistake. just answer the way the press secretary answered the first time around you're not going to love every question asked of you when you're running for president. you're probably not going to love most of the questions when you're running for president. what it shows is we've seen this this is a relatively green candidate at the national level, andrea. he's not done this before. these are the sorts of mistakes

you've make. i think it's part and parcel of that. >> of course, also reporting that he's trying to alter what he previously said about abortion and abortion rights in an appeal to the evangelicals in iowa. part of this may be tactical. i want to ask about your profile on sunday because it gave a lot of details about we've known in the past she had an aversion to politics but you really dug into the interesting profile of this woman who is clearly now okay with at least everyone says she's okay with her husband running for president. she didn't like the family business when she got into it. >> you know i think frankly it has been the great struggle of her life. she married into a american political dynasty, always been a private person she's a prayerful catholic a bit of a

loner and loves the arts. and this has been the conflict throughout her marriage to jeb bush, she fell in love with this man and married him but he's in the family business and the business is politics and very public. she's gotten some pretty bad press along the way. she went on a european shopping spree when jeb bush was governor spent $19,000 and didn't declare it all to cost om and got whacked around for it and our colleagues at the "washington post" flushed that out a little bit and said she spent a fair amount of money on jewelry as well. her daughter had a drug addiction and this was very painful for the bush family and also caused mrs. bush to want to withdraw further and not be so exposed to the press. so this run by jeb bush was not an easy thing for her. it's a question that had hung over her really for 20 years knowing that he might seek the presidency one day. and she was forced to wrestle with it and ultimately came to

the conclusion that she could back a run but she's not an eager campaigner and i wonder how enthusiastic she will be on trail for her husband. >> although she could be a huge asset given the fact that she is from mexico and has all sorts of interest that could be a real asset to a republican in the national campaign fascinating profile. >> absolutely, republicans are looking to expand their tent and looking to embrace the hispanic vote. many hispanics are up in arms over the hard line stance some republicans take on immigration. mrs. bush would be the first latina first lady she could be a very powerful draw for her husband in those communities. >> cheryl thank you very much and chris as well. speaking of immigration policy join us on wednesday at 8:00 for msnbc and telemundo's exclusive town hall with president obama. using your questions, so you can

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so why am i still thinking about this? how are you? aleve, proven better on pain. we're turning back to the terror threat made by al sha bab on the mall of america. the doors are open to shoppers seeking a normal shopping day while the shadow loomz over a very cold minnesota day. it makes me wonder why you aren't inside the mall but you've been inside periodically to talk to people. how do people feel about this? you can't get more middle american and central to our country than the mall of america? >> reporter: it does seem like a pretty normal day in there. i talked to store managers who said they didn't see any dropoff

in business over the weekend. and said today looks to be again like a normal day. there are signs urging people if you see something, say something. security is visible although i have to tell you, it's not overbearing or overwhelming. my colleague producer nick did talk to one family who had been here for shopping weekend from kansas a lot of people do do that here. and he's interestingly enough a former -- an army veteran served in guantanamo and he thinks americans are tired of this and want to get on with their lives and they are tired of these things. he did acknowledge he didn't tell his wife before -- about the there had been this threat and she did acknowledge she was a little concerned once she did find out. but it seems like a normal day,

andrea. >> okay, a normal cold day in minnesota, thank you very much for being there. >> and nbc news contributor michael sheehan served as deputy commissioner of counterterrorism after 9/11 and joins me now. how seriously do we take these threats? they may not be operational but could be inspirational. >> regarding the somali community, good news and bad news we've known for seven or eight years a lot of somalis have gone over to join the fight over there and serious jihadis who have gone over there. they've never seen any cell activity when we've returned or be active when they return or haven't seen many returnees, pretty much a one way ticket. three of those somalis have become suicide bombers in somalia when they got over there. the threat is a lone wolf inspired by this call for an attack to pick up a weapon that they could get at any gun show and go in the mall and start

firing it up like alal sha bab did in kenya. >> they did manage in kenya, which is closer to their home base right across the border that the westlake mall was horrific, 67 people died in that and went on for days. so they have operational ability but never so far across the ocean here in the homeland. >> exactly right, andrea that was the 9/11 for kenya, horrific attack as you said murderous people killing women and children at gun point. really shows the hatred in these people's souls. we would hope that the somalis here wouldn't be so radicalized. they got further radicalized when they went into somalia and hung out with those people. the great majority of the somali community in the united states are great citizens and to see if

someone is acting strangely and maybe motivated by this call and may be motivated by this warped interpretation of the islamic jihad and try to pick up a weapon. weapons dealers also need to be on alert and not to sell guns like they do to so many folks that are just completely irresponsible. so a lot of people have to be on a little on alert. hopefully as we see in minneapolis, the rest of the people are going about business as usual. >> thank you so very much thank you, michael sheehan sfl autism speaks, a major milestone. stay with us. we operate just like a city and that takes a lot of energy. we use natural gas throughout the airport - for heating the entire terminal generating electricity on-site and fueling hundreds of vehicles. we're very focused on reducing our environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment.

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people with children and children's ages and that's incredible it's outside the united states now, or at least we've tried to. on the science side, we have raised over $3 billion through congressional acts, three congressional pieces of legislation, two have been spent, billion, most of it goes to the nih and on our own, we've raised 550 -- almost 50 million, most of that in terms of programs the largest program we have is research. we're undertaking the biggest thing we could have ever thought of which is this whole general sequencing program with google doing so much creating a scientific portal to allow scientists from all over the world see this material, which they would never be able to have access too otherwise. it's the first time they'll have seen these things. >> which is extraordinary, this

partnership with google. suzanne, one of the big advances has been learning that early intervention helps helps to mitigate the effects. so by spreading the word you are alerting families all over the world. >> all over the world, yes, we're really truly a grass roots organization not only nationally but global. it is so imperative that the early signs that they are receiving all over the world now, if you have a doubt, if you have a sign go to your doctor and check it out because it is true and you get early intervention, 50% of those children will be mainstreamed. it's just a wonderful thing has happening. the news are going up but with early intervention these numbers will start to decline. >> now i hear from my friends, from co-workers and others who have children on the spectrum that they still can't get the help they need from local school districts. there's a federal mandate but there are school districts, including the district of columbia that i know of

directly who aren't reaching -- who aren't meeting that mandate. they base beingally tell parents, go into the private school system we can't help your child. what are families to do? >> you know they have power now. we created insurance bills in 38 states we've had all of this legislation. we've demonstrated to them that they have power. they have to take that power and use it and when we're saying this year for all of our walk people, which is an awful lot of people over 100,000 that are directly and another 300,000 will walk in d.c. the message is that that organization down there, our organization, they have to be convinced that they have the power to get that done. they have to go into the school district. they have to go and meet with the superintendents and they have to be pressed that case whether it's fire, police, he is

especially true with doctors and services maximize the amount of service but people have to do that. they are armed and ready. this is -- they are ready to go and they have to get out there and do that. >> we have a response center they can call we would be happy to help. >> it has to be -- the grass roots is strong. they are able and have to go in and -- >> yeah, it's amazing because we have this light it up blue campaign across the country. >> and now you have a big new addition to that campaign. >> we certainly do the freedom tower. on top of that yesterday i heard from the sanitation department here in new york we have 5,000 sanitation trucks that will be having our logo all through the month of april. i'm asking every sanitation department in the country to join us. >> really extraordinary. >> 135 countries. >> this started with your grandson. >> it did, with christian. he's changing the world, my little guy. >> how is he doing? >> he's doing fine. he's 13 years old, we have a teenager this year but i felt so sorry for those people that were

diagnosed when we were because they had no place to go. now at least autism speaks provides a place you can go for a tool kit which we love, 140,000 downloads to the tool kit. >> just the one. >> we have 38. how you deal -- where do you go? how do you get help? we're there for all of these families if they need a dentist, a doctor ado less sent care we are there for them. >> it's just extraordinary and the latest advocate that you recruited was none other than the holy father pope francis, that was a mazing a three-day autism conference at the vatican. >> at the vatican. >> they sponsored. it was only -- the rooms we were in were right next door to where the pope lives. and the third day he spent five hours down there. he came down and he hugged and met with -- i mean it was unbelievable. this man is just -- he can't wait to wade right into the

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yesterday on "meet the press." >> i'm not telling people to not go to the mall. i think there needs to be an awareness. needs to be vigilance. >> joining me from the mall of america, john yang. this is near a big somali-american community. is there a fear of home grown terrorist attacks there? >> reporter: ronan, i think that's why there is this sort of increased concern about the mall of america, even though as you say, secretary jeh johnson said there is no credible specific threat against the mall. also, al shabaab has not shown ability to do things outside of america. some think the video may be trying to inspire homegrown lone wolves as you say. minneapolis is the home to a large somali immigrant population. and experts say that in the past