problem. i think that certainly is a conversation that hasn't been held enough. dr. ronnie whitfield, thank you for being with us. >> thank you, so much ed. >> you bet. great work always. appreciate your work so much. thank you. that's "the ed show." "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening. thanks to you for tuning in. breaking news tonight, the feds arrest three men accused of plotting to join isis. and who allegedly also talked about killing u.s. soldiers bombing at an amusement park and shooting the president of the united states president obama. the suspects are residents of brooklyn new york. two of them are from pakistan and one from kazakhstan. they are accused of going to

syria to fight for isis while the third suspect allegedly gave their money and helped with planning. one of the men bought a plane ticket at this travel agency in brooklyn. they had a backup plan if they couldn't join isis. >> the idea that it was quite planned, that if they were not able to go they would seek to acquire weapons here handguns machine gun and seek to attack very specifically police officers. >> the fbi questioned one of the men back in august. they say he told agents quote, if isis ordered him to kill president obama, he would do so. and, quote he would also plant

a bomb on coney island if he were ordered by isil. now, cone kneey island is visited by millions of people every year. the men face sa15 years in prison. but are there more of these plots? how do we track them and what's behind them? fbi director james comey talked about those issues today. >> isil in particular is putting out a siren song through their slick propaganda through social media that goes like this. trouble soul come to the life of caliphate. you will find a life of meaning here fighting for our so-called caliphate. and if you can't come kill somebody where you are. >> joining me now are congressman brian higgins, democrat of new york serving on

the homeland security committee and michael sheehan, head of operations at the pentagon. thank you for being here. >> good to be here. >> congressman, how concerned are you about the people in the u.s. and the people in the u.s. going to fight for isis? >> well we are very concerned. obviously the isis propaganda machine is working. it's drawing people to syria, to iraq. but they are being told explicitly if they can't make that trip to undertake home-grown terrorism. this is a real problem. the good thing is our counterterrorism officials are working diligently and in counterterrorism you never get credit for what didn't happen. >> congressman, we just heard the fbi director say, and you repeat, they are told if they can't get to the states to kill people where you are? >> that's what you're hearing. and that's a meaj juror problem.

i think the good thing is in this case and in others, local law enforcement agencies are able to thwart terrorist activity before it's actually executed. terrorism is a strategy of the weak. they seek to instill fear in provoke and overreaction. >> meekichael, how do these people pose a threat? >> clearly they were intent to go overseas at least one of them that we know of to join isis and it's a brutal, hasn'teinous organization murdered this young aid worker. what they could have done back here it's hard to say. we may laugh about what they would try to do to the president, it would be hard to get to president obama but to do something at coney island in new york wouldn't take much to wreak

havoc down there. so we have to take these things very seriously. >> now some of the details, congressman, in the criminal complaint are just downright scary. it states that in a recorded conversation, one of the defendants said he could, quote, always open fire on american soldiers and kill as many of them as possible. and, quote, i will just go and buy a machine gun, ak-47, go out and shoot all police. i mean how serious of a threat was this? >> it's a very very serious threat and that's -- you know it's good that our law enforcement agencies are monitoring these individuals and tracking their activity as well to ensure that whatever plot they are contemplating is not executed at a time when we are dealing here in congress with the homeland security budget that's being held hostage for external issues this is

inexcusable. the department of homeland security was created in the aftermath of 9/11 to prepare the nation for these kinds of things and to be agile so that we can address the evolution of terrorist activity. now we're seeing that not only is there terrorist activity in other countries, but the leaders of those groups isis in particular, are encouraging their followers to execute terrorist activity home-grown terrorist activities. so getting that funding to law enforcement agencies as they continue to monitor the activities of these individuals is very very important to the nation security. so it is incomprehensible that you have any question three days out from the ex pir expiration of a budget that you're not going to have homeland security funding. >> now, it's my understanding that these were not criminal

master minds. the 19-year-old defendant told a criminal informant, quote, he had wanted to travel to syria to wage jihad but that his mother had feared that he would do so and took his passport. so his mother suspected? i mean what does that say to you? that they weren't hiding this plan very well? >> yeah clearly, reverend al these weren't clever master minds but that's not necessarily that important. i wrote a book about al qaeda and terrorisms. i've been following these people for 15 years. one of my chapters was called killers and bunglers. i've studied a history of their attacks where they can be vicious killers and kill dozens of persons and be idiots at the same time. so even though some of these people don't look like people that you might suspect that have all types of capabilities as a

terrorist, they can still be very, very dangerous because it doesn't take much to pick up a gun and go into a crowd and start blasting people if you're committed to do so. so we have to attack each one of these people very very seriously. >> you know a top spokesman for isis has repeatedly called for attacks on westerners congressman. in september he said in a video that isis supporters should target americans or europeans and in january he said quote, target the crusaders in their own lands. who are they trying to reach with these kinds of messages congressman? >> they are trying to reach the people that they have radicalized through their propaganda machines and they are reaching people who five years ago could not be reached. these are people that are disaffected, people that as the fbi director said have no real life you know worth living here and they are promised after

afterlife if they join in the islamic jihad. so this is a major component, a relatively knew component that local law enforcement agencies have to work with to get. a lot of the tips that you mentioned, family members pulling passports, a lot of the tips that are most valuable in thwarting these terrorist activities come from the communities within which these people live. they come from family members that understand that their family members are disaffected and becoming radicalized and they tip off law enforcement agencies. so i think, you know this network of law enforcement, community engagement is he have very important toward the goal of stopping home-grown terrorism. >> michael, how do they reach out with twitter and social media to people that are with them or sympathetic to them? >> well these organizations have often used different types

of communication. al qaeda used the magazine "inspire" and for years they have called for home-growns to take attack. what isis has done is taken it to another level. by taking advantage of twitter and facebook which al qaeda never did. so they have some very sophisticated folks over there that are right on the cutting edge of anything that any of our teenagers that we know can do. and so they have used those social media to reach out to more and more people around the world, looking for the disaffected, pushing their narrative to come join their crusade to create the caliphate to join their effort and if you die, you'll be god. it's a powerful narrative for those wandering around aimlessly and they are using sophisticated methods of communication of social media in a very effective way. >> congressman brian higgins and michael sheehan, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you.

>> thanks very much for having me. still ahead, president obama calls out the gop for playing politics with the national security at a special msnbc town hall. you'll want to hear what he says about the gop and immigration. also do chicago police have a secret warehouse where they take suspects for off the books interrogations? we'll talk to this man's lawyer. >> we were never booked. we were never processed. that's essentially what this place, home square is. it's a domestic black site. also hillary clinton's new plan for a historic presidential run in 2016. >> and new calls to push isis off twitter. "conversation nation" is ahead.

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tonight, president obama is calling out republicans for holding homeland security funding hostage. it came during a special msnbc ton hall event on immigration with the president hosted by my colleague jose diaz-balart. >> instead of holding hostage funding for homeland security which is so important for our homeland security fund that and let's get on to passing immigration reform. >> we're now just two days away from a homeland security shutdown. and today, senate republicans

showed they know it's a political loser for the gop. holding a vote on a funding bill that doesn't assault the president's executive actions. now all that is needed is leadership from the house republicans. so what kind of bold action will we see from speaker boehner? >> i'm waiting for the senate to act. until the senate does something, we're in a wait and see mode. i'm waiting for the senate to pass a bill. we're waiting for the senate to act. i'm waiting for the senate to pass a bill. >> is congress going to avoid a shutdown? >> i'm waiting for the senate to act. >> he's waiting. instead of standing up to the far right driving this frenzy one right-wing congressman, said, the base would be

extremely angry if house republicans voted." he wasn't alone. >> how can you fund something you know is unconstitutional? >> i'm going to support any effort to fund it. >> will conservatives really shut down the agency charged with protecting the homeland so they can mount a political attack on immigrants? joining me now is congressman emanuel cleaver and maria tchl teresa kumar. >> how far are they willing to push this? >> there is a great divide. i was speaking with a republican who said to me that he would like to vote on a clean bill but he said that there was one section of the party -- and i

think we know the second -- that is under no circumstance willing to vote on a clean bill. they believe that they have to be faithful and true to their constituency which says that at all costs, fight the president. and at all costs, make sure that you don't receive any ground on the issue of emigration. so we have 48 hours to go and it looks like unless the speaker brings a clean bill to the floor, we're going to end up with a shutdown and that's 2,266 jobs in missouri that will go away at least until something is done. >> that's in mess sourissouri. >> just in missouri. >> maria, what did you hear from him? >> that this whole idea of defunding or stopping dhs was a political football and putting lives in danger and he also was very clear that this is only a

temporary stay that in reality, the judge that decided to rule against putting a halt on his executive action is very much an activist judge. and he also talked about things that he's going to continue to do with his executive action. while it doesn't provide relief right now, it provides relief for dhs with the executive action, he changes the immigration policy going after felons and true criminals and not tearing up families. >> congressman, house republicans stuck to their ugly rhetoric on the president's immigration actions. it came at a house hearing today. watch this. >> president obama, a clear violation of his constitutional

responsibility to faithfully execute the laws. >> as a true monarch would do the president spoke the law into existence. >> i mean, congressman, we are facing three arrests in new york today, all kinds of threats and we're hearing this kind of partisan anti-president anti-immigration kind of rhetoric while we are two days away from a shutdown on homeland security. i mean at what point do this hurt them in their own party standing with their own constituents when security is at stake here, congressman? >> i think there's a small group of people who would like to have the department of homeland security shut down. i think they understand what isis is doing and isis is

recruiting people out of europe and the united states to come into the middle east and work with isis. but one of the things that i want to say to the people listening to the show all those people with the blue uniforms on them at the uniform. >> right. >> by friday those people will not be able to work. and keep in mind those are not federal employees. these are private people working under a contract with the united states government. so we're expecting these private employees to go to work without getting paid and those jobs are dangerous jobs because they are. >> as in the airport maria, an airport where someone as arrested suspected of tearrrorism. what i'm trying to say is while they are arguing about the president's immigration action it's at a time of heightened concern and we're talking about home land security. >> that's exactly right. congress is hijacking the

american people's safety by making sure that they are strapping homeland security and not funding them fully because, at the end of the day, what they don't seem to like is the idea that the president has extended a reprieve. and this is a temporary reprieve. this is not a law but a reprieve on millions of immigrant families and saying until congress does its job, until then we're going to give millions of people a reprieve so they can breathe, come out of the shadows and actually be able to do their -- lead their daily lives. they are deciding that they are going to hijack the american people's safety over petty politics and that's not acceptable. >> congressman, it's just a reprieve but we're talking about homeland security. we're talking about funding homeland security people who work at airports and vital places. i get that they don't like the president. i got that. but i mean do we love america? >> well i think a lot of this has to do i think -- americans

are beginning to see, is irrational and some of it is based exclusively on the president. under normal circumstances, nobody would do something this dumb. this is not the parks and recreations department that we're playing around with. this is the homeland security department at a time when terror is on the minds of people in every spot on this globe. and we are over here playing around with ideology and jeopardizing the american security. >> maria, do you see in any way that mr. boehner, the speaker, may back down? he backed down. is there any hope that maybe he would see the impact of this and back down and attack a clean bill to the floor? >> boehner is an old-school politician. he sees the writing on the wall. he understands basically what is at stake. his difficulty is he has such a split party and it's reconciling those differences but at the end of the day, the american people

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by the police. some of the alleged practices that took place there include keeping arrestees from being officially booked beating by police shackling for long periods, holding people without legal counsel for 12 to 24 hours. at least one man was found unresponsive and later pronounced dead. one victim is speaking out. brian jacob church was taken to homing square after protesting a nato summit in 2012. here's what he told "the guardian." >> when they first arrested us they took us to this building. we were never booked. we were never processed. i was in -- i was in homing square for about 17 hours and

happened handcuffed to the bench. it's a domestic black site. >> nbc news can't confirm "the guardian" report. the police department strongly refuted telling us in part, "the allegation that physical violence is a part of interviews with suspects is unequivocally false, it is offensive and it is not supported by any facts whatsoever." joining me now is noted civil rights attorney from chicago flint taylor whose firm represents brian jacob church. thank you for being here tonight. >> it's a pleasure to be with you, reverend al. >> first of all, do you believe this "guardian" report is accurate? >> it seems that the reporter

did a very thorough job in talking to various jobs here in chicago, to talking to other people that had knowledge of the place and talking to our client brian church. brian church of course was the person you just had on the air through the videotape. and it's anecdotal that we're putting together and he's starting to put together all of these pieces that have been sitting out there over the years. and reverend as someone who has been working the civil rights cases for 45 years and have spent many many days looking for clients back in the old days when they would ship them to one place and then ship them to another and keep them from their family and their lawyers and then we ultimately learned that some of them were tortured by john burge here in chicago. >> you are certainly at the forefront of the berge case and

others that economy aware of but what can you tell us about homing square where these alleged abuses are said to have occurred? >> well, it seems to me what they have done is centralize more in terms of what they used to do and attack people to other places than where they were take telling the family that they were taking them without lawyers and family present. we have to look at all of them. what has come out already is one person claims he was beaten. another person ended up dead. our client ended up shackled. >> someone told "the guardian" that it's an open secret among attorneys that regularly make police station visits this place, if you can't find a client in the system odds are they are there. have you experienced this in your own experience as an

attorney? >> i hadn't experienced that myself but my law partners did and the people who go there regularly, this organization called first defense legal aid in chicago, they supply volunteer attorneys to go and look for and to represent people who are witnesses and suspects and defendants in cases and they are the ones who we are finding out that this happened to and they are the ones saying it was an open secret and they are not being listened to locally when they tried to talk about it. >> so you've heard the denial that i've read from the police. how do you respond to that flint taylor as a well-respected civil rights attorney? >> well, the first thing i would say is you have to take what the chicago police department says and has said in the past very very suspiciously. they denied for many years that john berge was torturing people

they always denied that people were wrongfully shot here. this is chicago and chicago is a place where violence by the police has always run rampant, that unconstitutional actions, technically when it specifically when it comes to the criminal justice system and defendants, that's a regular run of the mill thing that has happened and i believe it's still happening to some degree here and i don't attack their denials at face value and i think there has to be much more investigation as to what has been happening and is happening at this site. >> all right. well we will certainly stay on top of this and we're going to be watching this. flint taylor thank you so much for your time tonight. >> my pleasure. and a full statement from the chicago police department is on our website, msnbc.com/politicsnation.

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it's time for "conversation nation." joining me tonight, host stephanie miller democratic strategist jimmy williams and tara. thank you all for being here tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks for having me.

>> we start with hillary clinton. after her big speech in the silicon valley headlines are popping up across the country and many say clinton is ready to run with an overt call to women. >> when women's participation is limited, our country's prosperity is limited, too. there is a special spot in hell for women who don't help other women. so -- [ applause ] -- what you do does not have to be big and dramatic. you don't have to run for office. [ applause ] although, if you do more power to you. >> stephanie, it may seem obvious, but a lot of people are talking about the strong pitch hillary made directly to women

last night. smart strategy? >> yeah. i mean i think absolutely. i think -- you know and by the way, i will be one of the women helping other women like hillary clinton get elected. i think we are ready and i think the republicans are helping in their own special way. there was a republican legislator who asked a doctor at a hearing why women can't swallow a camera to have a gynecological exam. their understanding of lady and their lady bits can only help hillary. >> when she used the madeleine albright statement or quote, there's a special place in hell i mean she seems more aggressively going after women this time. >> and i think that is a smart strategy and she's absolutely right. there is a special place in hell. i understand that as a woman business owner. people want to see hillary be more progressive.

particularly progressives. so anything she does to emphasize her progressive bona fides as well as not just talk about it but back it up with policy proposals, i think that is going to help her. what she does need to do though, is draw a better parallel which i think the democratic party has not done as well, draw a stronger parallel between economic issues and women's issues. tieing them together in a better way because they are connected. that's another piece of the puzzle that has to come with her boulder strategy. >> galvanizing the base and allies might be strong jimmy because once she announces, if in fact she does the republicans are going to come after her beg-time. >> and that's the inherent problem, is it, the flaw. if they in fact go after her, it's going to be hard of not attacking a woman, of not going

after at the dinner table or at the business lunch hillary clinton and then a woman at that table, a business woman or mother or their spouse saying, whoa what's up with you? where is all of this hate coming from? that's a vein they have to be very careful of. they will trip over this i promise you they will. >> does she have to be careful, though stephanie, in terms of her own allies that you have some progressives that are questioning her? i talked to senator elizabeth warren on this show about that last night. and you have some in the minority communities, particularly blacks that still have some memories of 2008. doesn't she also have to deal with her allies without stumbling? >> well, i agree, reverend. those are good points that you raised. we know that she just met with

elizabeth warren and -- >> she didn't seem that enthusiastic last night on "politicsnation." >> and you always have the breaking news rev. but i think hillary is smart enough to know that she needs that constituency certainly needs the minority community. but in terms of bipartisanship and all of that i think the country is beyond ready for that right now. >> tara? >> well i think one area where she can unite her allies again, when i get back to these economic issues when you look at black women in particular, we have difficulty accessing capital through banks, financing and stuff like that. that's become a big issue. and that's an year where she can attack up the mantel and that will help with the unemployment numbers in our community. so areas like that finding ways to bridge the gaps between all women is where she needs to be

focusing because there are particular issues that i think will be popular with everyone but she needs to drill down and say it call it out. these are issues that affect black women. up next could family members with a political liability? ron paul the father of potential candidate senator rand paul is raising eyebrows for this recent interview. >> i was always annoyed with it in congress because we had an anti-war unofficial group, the few libertarian republicans and generally the black caucus and others did not -- they are really against war because they want all of that money to go to food stamps for people here." >> now, ron paul is not running for his office but his comments are offensive and could potentially damage his son's ambitions. jimmy, we know family members can be a political liability.

>> sure. >> but should they be? >> we seem to have another uncle cray cray. and this one is ron paul. every republican running for president is going to have to answer this question. set aside the dinosaurs, set aside evolution, set aside all of that. ron paul has a massive following, especially among libertarians. and by the way, rand paul his son, has a big following amongst millennials. he's going to have to have an answer for this tech thing. and by the way, i would like to see democrats take on ron paul for saying this because not only is it offensive, this isn't even dog whistling. this is kicking the dog. it is beyond offensive. in fact what he said is immoral and unchristian. >> does senator rand paul have to answer for his father's words? >> well i've never been of the rule of thought that people need

to be held accountable for things that they didn't say themselves. but the issue for rand paul is rand paul himself. he has very dubious and highly suspect ties to white organizations that now are calling themselves libertarian groups. he's also said things himself on the record that was racial. >> stephanie, do we hold family members responsibility for what they say? >> he has a guy named southern avenger and said to rachel he's not so sure about the 1964 civil rights act. he has his own problems and his dad's genetic trait to say, that makes sense. wait. what? that was crazy. he will have to answer for him. everybody stay with me. when we come back how to deal with isis on twitter. and marc anthony's surprising

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we're back with our panel, stephanie, jimmy and tara. should isis be banned from twitter? the fbi director spoke about how isis is recruiting members through social media. now on republican congressmen

say isis shouldn't be banned from social media. tara should twitter ban anyone supporting isis? >> well this is a very interesting question. some terrorists have given away their locations by using social media. so this is a tricky one. at the same time the other dynamic is i have friends who work in humanitarian missions across the world. a lot of times they follow these groups to find out where and where not to go when they are doing humanitarian missions. so this is a tricky one. i don't think we should jump to any conclusions too quickly on this front. >> jimmy? >> i have to agree. the first amendment -- it doesn't apply, obviously, to terrorists and isis but at the end of the day, our intelligence community should have the ability to go after them. if you ban them they find out ways to find another loophole

find another way to recruit and that's what they do. we just follow them. >> stephanie, should we ban isis or people relating to isis from twitter? >> it is a tough question. it's a little close to -- you know, yelling fire in a crowded theater but i do agree, i think the president's strategy of trying to win hearts and minds and not giving them religious legitimacy by, you know using certain words, because as your other guests say, they are going to find other ways. i call it anti-social media because i hate technology. so i'm against -- we have to shut the whole thing down. all right. finally, can parents be too honest with their kids? singer marc anthony says his father offered him some tough love as a child that always stuck with him. >> my dad told me early on he said son, we're both ugly. >> he did not. >> i swear. he says it to this day.

>> he said you work on your personality. >> it builds character. >> didn't that hurt your feelings? >> absolutely not. because i was born looking at his face and he was right. >> stephanie, too honest? >> i feel his pain because my 9 92-year-old republican mom said i was ugly as a child and i've had a lot of work done. and i don't know if you know but my dad ran with barry goldwater in 1964 and i think she thinks he wouldn't have lost had i been a wee bit more attractive. so i feel his pain on that. >> tara? >> i'm a big believer in leveling with your kids. i don't know that i'd do that kind of leveling with my kids but i remember being told myself as a kid that i was way too skinny and a big head. there's something to be said -- i work really hard as a result. >> jimmy? >> just love your child and honestly it will all work out in

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and aleve is proven to work better on pain than tylenol arthritis. so why am i still thinking about this? how are you? aleve, proven better on pain. today we learned that former president george w. bush will join president obama and thousands more in selma to mark auto years since bloody sunday. it was a turning point in the civil rights movement. as they crossed the edmond bridge, the outrage over these images helped build support for the voting rights act of 1965. that act was signed by president johnson. but since then it's been repeatedly renewed by gop

presidents nixon in 1970 ford in 1975 reagan in 198 it2 and president bush in 2006 after passing in the senate 98-0. >> it's been four decades since the voting rights was first passed, we've made progress. toward equality you have to work for a more perfect union is never ending. i am proud to sign the voting rights act reauthorization and amendments act of 2006. >> voting should not be a partisan each and right now in congress it's time for lawmakers to put politics aside and restore the voting rights act which was gutted by the supreme court in 2013. i will also be watching as i join others that day in selma

next month to see if republican leaders will come and make that commitment as president bush comes. i was there when president bush resigned renewed the act in 2006. we were against his war but stood with him as he signed that act. i hope republicans do the same this year. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. terrorist arrest in the united states and a nasty fight with netanyahu. let's play "hardball." ♪ good evening. i'm chris matthews up in boston. we'll get to those fbi arrests today and what they say about the islamics in this country. even to the point of threatening to kill president obama. but we start with