rity fund that and let's get on with actually passing comprehensive immigration reform. >> plus the south, snowed under, historic snowfall has led to major roads closed across several states and hundreds and thousands without power. old man winter isn't done with us yet. ♪ >> very good day to you, i'm kristen welker in washington in for andrea mitchell. we're monitoring new developments on isis tletd overseas and here at home. jihadi john the man responsible for beheadings of americans jail foley and sotloff is former resident mohammed emwazi. we're hearing more about the three in custody, one of those

telling federal agents in 2014 that he was willing to plant a bomb on new york's coney island to prove his allegiance to that terror organization. joining me now, "washington post" adam goldman who broke details on jihadi john's identity and richard engel live in istanbul and msnbc's adam reece. what more can you tell us about jihadi john his background and how he got to where he is? >> well what i can tell you primarily what's in the story jihadi john appears to have radicalized at some point either before or after 2009 and he came under suspicion of mi5 and wasn't allowed to leave the country. then we believe in early january of 2012 he might have -- he left for syria. we know that he played a larger

role in the organization of the islamic state. he wasn't just a guard and possibly it was involved in recruiting europeans to join the group. >> one of the things so striking in your reporting is that you suggest he was raised in the middle class. doesn't that sort of counter the profile of who we think about when we think about who might join isis the disaffected young person who might be encouraged to go and join that group, that radical group? >> well yeah but let's not look at the islamic state. you can look at al qaeda, you can look at other groups. there's a spectrum of people who join these groups. you don't have to be down and out. we have seen people of his ilk and education try to join terrorist groups before. >> going to you, what are you hearing, richard and do we think jihadi john is still in syria? is there an effort to try to find him. >> first of all, excellent

reporting from the "washington post." this was a story a lot of people are looking into for a very long time. great job to them. we do believe that jihadi john is still in syria, that he is still a key player in the group. there are efforts to find him. there are efforts to try to attack isis targets whenever they are available. the problem is right now we're -- the war on isis is an air campaign and it's being done by drones and fighter jets. it is not a very precise war where specific individuals are generally being located and picked up. i think if he were to be killed it would probably be by an accident that there was an air strike at a compound where he happened to be. but what we have learned so far is that he is -- he went there, was involved in other extremist groups and linked to the smally group al shabab that britt

intelligence were looking into him or investigating him. and that's something that's really important in the story, perhaps more important than the fact that he was from a middle class background. in every case it seems, in paris, in australia, the authorities are aware of these militants. they know their names and know their movements and yet they keep slipping through the cracks. when i've been talking to some security officials they are saying are we collecting too much intelligence. what's the point of listening to every person's phone call around the world and gathering data when these militants who are already known continue to slip through the system something in the system isn't working and it seems collecting more data is not helping. >> let me ask you about the potential fallout. it it possible in the wake of identifying jihadi john could this elevate his status within isis?

>> reporter: i think it -- unclear if it's going to elevate him or not. it was probably unlikely he would ever return to the u.k. or leave the islamic caliphate. now his chances of ever leaving there and trying to assimilate back into society are pretty much zero. it's possible he could become more of an important figure now that he's getting more media attention but already he was getting lots of attention. he was put forward as the group as a spokesman, the one who was involved in detaining monitoring detainees, particularly western hostages and torturing the western hostages including waterboarding and then of course with his commando knife personally beheading american and other hostages. >> and adam i want to shift to you and these three men who were arrested in new york suspected of collaborating with isis what's the latest on that investigation? is it possible we could see more arrests in the coming days.

>> reporter: kristen, good afternoon, all three men are in federal custody today. two of them lived here behind me in brooklyn the other one in florida. 19-year-old was pulled off a jet at jfk yesterday as he was boarding on his way to syria via turkey, his roommate 24 years old woz going to join him sometime in march. if they were not able to get to syria, they were going to wage jihad here in america, bomb coney island according to court documents, kill police officers and kill fbi agents and actually ultimately they planned on attempting to kill president obama. now, their plan was found out about six months ago in august. fbi agents saw some of their writings on a jihadi website and came here to this apartment to interview them. they admitted a lot of what was on the website but they continued to plan the operation even talking to a confidential informant. now, officials say it never got beyond the operational stage. it was a lot of talk. they didn't find any weapons or

explosives. kristen. >> adam and richard, great reporting from all three of you. we want to shift to peter king who chairs the house subcommittee on counterterrorism and intelligence. thank you for being here this afternoon. we appreciate it. >> thank you, kristen. >> congressman, let me start first with the identification of jihadi john. what more are you hearing about that and does that get authorities any closer to finding him? >> i think basically what you've been reporting is what i've been told and as far as getting closer, i agree with richard engel saying that we don't know exactly where he is and we don't have very much intelligence on the ground. so my belief would be that we get him right now it's going to be by luck because ever since snowden made his disclosures isis and others have changed means of communication. we don't have many people on ground at all, if any, hard to

know where he is. >> let's shift to the three arrests in new york it was said similar people quote exist in every state. how concerned are you that there are a lot of other people like the three arrested yesterday in new york and in cities all across the country, congressman? >> i'm actually very concerned and i've been for some time. i know for instance, in new york my understanding is from talking to people involved that investigations are still ongoing. that there's others who could well be planning similar plots to what these three were. to those who think it was a game or these guys didn't know what they were doing, i was talking to one of the detectives involved in the case and he said that one of the 19-year-olds was one of the most vicious people he's ever encountered. they would cut your heart out and not let him bother him at all. these were vicious, determined people. what skills they had, we don't know. it doesn't take a lot of skill to blow up a lot of people in a

confined area. >> congressman, do you think they were collaborating with anyone else? do you anticipate there will be other arrests in the coming days? >> i've been told arrests are ongoing -- investigations are ongoing. whether or not there will be arrests, i don't know. but this is being monitored and the investigations are far from over. >> the fbi had contacted one of the suspects twice before arresting him. do you have any concerns about the fact that these suspects weren't arrested sooner and does this sort of give terrorists -- potential terrorists and people collaborating with isis does it give them a way to get out of being arrested in the future? do they look at this example and say now we know how to evade authorities. >> this is a dilemma that they face but i think they did the right thing here. you identify someone then put them under massive surveillance and hope by following them that will lead to others and rather than just being able to arrest one or two, it could lead to a

wider list of conspirators the danger is if the person sneaks away and able to carry out a operation. that's why it was so important they stopped him at the airport. good police work involves letting the persons go as far as they can without carrying out a crime or carrying out their plot. and then hopefully snares the others along the way. >> congressman, i want to turn to the fight in capitol hill whether to fund dhs, the senate planning to pass a clean funding bill. here's what house speaker john boehner had to say about that moments ago. take a listen. >> i don't know what the senate can produce or what they can't produce. if they produce something, we'll decide what we're going to do after we see it. the house has done its work. and when the senate does its work, we'll let you know how we're going to proceed. >> congressman, your reaction? has the house done its work all that the house has passed is something that the president would veto because it blocks its

immigration action? >> kristen, sometimes i think the republicans live in an unreal world. this is a 22nd anniversary of the first world trade center bombing, a neighbor of mine was killed that day. yesterday we saw three arrested in brooklyn. we know that investigation is ongoing, isis is killing people all over the world. it's absolute insanity if we don't vote on the clean bill. if the senate sends us a clean bill we have an absolute obligation, not just a political obligation but moral obligation to vote on that and to be defunding the department of homeland security at the time when the terror threats are greater now than any time since 9/11 to me it's just -- fantasy world and delusional world. maybe if some of the people who talk about how we have to hold this up if their states were bombed they would feel differently. it's easy when you're 1,000, 2,000 miles from the trade center not to fully appreciate how horrifying that attack was. maybe if their state was attacked they would knock it off. >> congressman, nancy pelosi

actually referenced some of your comments because i know you've been fire d up about this. take a listen and then i want your reaction on the other side. >> peter king will probably be the most quoted man in america in the next few hours. he said we cannot allow dhs not to be funded. people think we're crazy. there are terrorist attacks all over the world and we're talking about closing down homeland security. this is like living in the world of the crazy people. i associate myself with the remarks of the gentleman from new york. >> so congressman, your reaction to the fact that nancy pelosi is using you to pressure your own party. it underscores the extent the party is divided. >> i don't agree with nancy on many issues ats all and ironically enough it's the republican party for the last 40 50 years that has been strong security, homeland security -- >> do you have a problem with her using your tweet in that way to put pressure on republicans

to get this done? >> whatever it takes to get it done and shows how off the rails are, we're allowing nancy pelosi to be the spokesperson for homeland security. that should be our issue. that's why people who say they are conservatives and republicans, they are the ones really will ruin the republican party and the speaker has to bring this to a vote. >> congressman, do you think this will get done before midnight tomorrow night? what's your prediction? >> i think it has to but if you're living in a crazy world, you don't know what crazy people will do. >> this has been a real leadership test for john boehner. do you think he's shown leadership on this issue? >> i think john boehner is doing the best he can. he's a friend of mine and strong leader. he is a strong leader but has to deal with people in the republican party who are putting whatever idealogical crusade ahead of the homeland security of the united states and john is trying to balance that. a time has come for a decision to be made.

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if mr. mcconnell the leader of the senate and the speaker of the house, john boehner, want to

have a vote on whether what i'm doing is rel or not. they can have that vote. i'll veto that vote because i'm confident -- [ applause ] >> what we're doing is the right thing to do. >> president obama yesterday's town hall meeting on immigration challenging republican leadership to put his executive action legislation to a vote. joining me now for the daily fix, chris cillizza and managing editor of postpolitics.com and ruth marcus and alan gomez, immigration reporter for "usa today." i want your reaction to the town hall. president obama trying to put the pressure on republicans to get this passed. chris, does this strategy work? we're not seeing a whole lot of outreach from the white house. we're seeing them put the pressure in terms of the president going on the road and taking his message to the public. >> i don't think it's surprising. i don't know if it will work kristen. i think what he's trying to do

is say, look republicans, the ball is in your court. we can do this the hard way or easy way. his message in some ways i don't think is all that different probably than what mitch mcconnell and john boehner are telling their people privately. even if we try to do this thing of linking dhs funding in immigration orders he's still going to veto. it's not going to work out as well as everybody thinks. let's not cut off our nose to spite our face. >> ruth what do you think the president accomplished if anything last night? >> he both reassured his base and his party, whether he accomplished anything congressional republicans, that's really debatable. to me this is a process of accepting reality and it's like the stages of grief when you have a terminal illness. the point the president is making you can have your little vote but i'm going to veto it is just something that the republicans in congress are

going to have to adjust themselves to but that's a process that takes time and realization that doesn't come overnight. >> alan some moments got heated last night. the president was asked about the political pingponging between democrats and republicans. i want to play a clip and get your reaction on the other side. >> owen from houston, why do democrats and gop play political ping pong when millions of american families suffer as a result? >> you know jose -- wait wait i appreciate the applause. that's just not true. the notion that democrats and republicans play political ping pong. democrats have consistently stood on the side of comprehensive immigration reform. let's not be confused about why we don't have comprehensive immigration reform right now. it's simple the republican speaker of the house, john boehner refused to call the bill. had he called the bill the

overwhelming majority of democrats and a handful of republican would have provided the majority in order to get that done. >> mr. president, i want to -- >> what do you think, was his answer enough to satisfy latinos who were frustrated and feel the president has been in office six years and hasn't gotten done jet? >> a lot of hispanics in atepdance yesterday have come back to the president after he did what he did by trying to protect up to 5 million undocumented immigrants. whether what he did yesterday will influence republicans in any way, probably not. i think one of the other things that it did accomplish is get that message across to these undocumented immigrants that he's going to continue fighting for this program and that his administration is not -- they say are not going to deport the people who would otherwise qualify for this program. i think that's one of the things they've been waiting to hear. there's been a lot of confusion among undocumented immigrants whether the program was dead or they should give up.

that's one of the messages that did get out that really resonated. >> i want to shift to the fight on capitol hill over immigration and of course dhs funding. house speaker john boehner just held his weekly news conference and asked if he was going to bring the senate bill to at the time house floor. let's look and then i'm going to get your reaction after we hear it. >> mitch mcconnell has said exactly what he's going to do. you know exactly what you're going to get. it's going to be a clean dhs funding bill. are you going to put it on the floor, kill it let him vote on it. have you had this discussion? >> when i make decisions i'll let you know. >> what does that mean? >> is a continuing resolution -- >> that was just a kiss several. >> it was a memorable moment i'm not sure what it meant. what did it mean? what happened there? >> first of all, let's be thankful he didn't start to cry. and second of all, i think he's

run out of things to say at this stage. yesterday it was i'm waiting for the senate to act, i'm waiting for the senate to act. everybody understands the min youette happening here. he can't say what he's going to do and how it's going to proceed until it happens. so reporters are asking him questions that they know put him in a difficult situation and that was his -- that was today's response. i can't wait to what tomorrow's is. >> chris cillizza this was deja vu all over again, he's boxed in again. >> i was just going to say, golly, feels like we've seen this storyline before and that's right. the reality here is they have a 247 seats they control right now, maybe 246. 25 people voted against john boehner for speaker, 25 republicans. so that basically means that those people will vote against john boehner almost no matter what. if john boehner says we're doing yellow they are going green.

so now you're down to the low 220s and you lose anybody in there, any republican in there and it's very hard to do. i actually think he's probably saying i'll tell you one i know because he doesn't know the reality. this is a numbers game and he doesn't know if the numbers are there or not. we've seen this before boehner and mcconnell boehner tries to come up with a plan that will put pressure back on the white house in one way shape or form on an issue. conservatives revolt and he's forced to go with a less good solution than the solution he proposed and move on. that's the nature of the conference he's leading at the moment. >> and alan just finally quickly to you, the potential impact on 2016 obviously president obama won the last latino vote by a large margin. is this afight that continues to resonate into 2015? >> absolutely you talk to undocumented immigrants and they are well versed what's going on

in washington and what's going on between congress and the president. hispanics around the country, this is something they are seeing every day on spanish language media. they know about this funding fight and why it's happening. so the president made the point yesterday every republican candidate for 2016 will be forced to answer these questions. there's no question there's a giant political implication to what he's trying to do and kind of force that question on the gop primary to see if he can turn into what happened the last time around to see who can be toughest on undocumented immigrants. >> all right, alan ruth and chris, thanks to all three for a great conversation. really appreciate it. loretta lynch is one vote from becoming the country's next attorney general, voted 12-8 to elevate her nomination to the senate floor. lynch was picked by president obama to replace outgoing attorney general eric holder. the vote could come as early as

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is senator jeff sessions going to do? the alabama republican has been a vocal critic, frequent critic on the action on immigration. there are questions whether he might raise his hand to object to slow down the process. we heard from ted cruz saying he won't try to run -- hurry up the clock at all or get in the way of the process. he'll wait for the actual voting. part of what's unfolding now is a taking of the temperature. we don't know when the next step in the voting will happen on the senate side but we do know there are some members who remain concerns about doing this two-part process, a bill that would effectively fund the department without dealing with immigration issues and then a second one, that vote scheduled tomorrow which would give senators an opportunity to weigh in on just that most recent piece of the november executive order of the president. we don't know how it's going to play out. in theory the senate should be

able to pass a clean bill. it's a matter of when. we'll be watching that closely and any senator can raise a hand and gum up the works. we're just not sure yet if they are all in line and in agreement with how to proceed. >> we'll watch for those key senators, luke now to you. we just heard from house speaker john boehner but he didn't give us a real sense of what he's thinking. what are you hearing? does he have a strategy if this does pass through the senate which kelly suggested it might do ultimately. does he have a strategy? >> his strategy aside from blowing kisses to reporters, kristen, seems to be he's holding his cards closest to the vest. and john boehner is going the marshawn lynch mode repeating the same thing over and over again. we have to see what the senate does and house has acted. the question now becomes at what point does john boehner ka pit

late and realize the department of homeland security has to be funded. is it going to be this weekend? is it going to be as soon as the senate sends over a bill or will he try to do a temporary perhaps two-week to two-month funding bill which would try to give him time for the republican party to stand up to president obama on immigration? i asked nancy pelosi if she would give him cover and she said no. i asked john boehner if he thought the department of homeland security running out of money was detrimental -- john boehner is not giving away his strategy because he's basically going to wait until the last second until he has to jump off the plank in the deep end. conservatives will be angry but eventually he'll have to do it. >> quick predictions, do you think congress can get this resolved by midnight tomorrow night? kelly, it's going to be close it looks like. >> it will be close but they have some ways to patch it and make it work. we just don't know the final end

game. it might not be pretty but it's possible it can get done. >> luke your thoughts? >> cautiously not optimistic, put it that way. >> either way, we're all going to have a long 48 hours ahead of us at the very least. >> where else would you rather be? >> indeed. thanks to both of you, appreciate it. >> take care. a new round of winter weather is wreaking havoc on the south today, a mix of snow and sleet and freezing rain fell from the gulf coast here in washington causing power outages, dangerous driving conditions and closing schools across the region. some residents in norfolk awoke to up to 8 inches of snow outside. so is there any relief in sight? how is it looking out there rnlgs sara? >> reporter: the snow has slowed and we have light moisture in the air. we're dealing with a lot of sleet and snow and slush here on the ground which crews are working to clean up. you can see one of the snow removal machines working there

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going to go back to new york city for more on three men accused and the terrorist concerns highlighted by these arrests and details about jihadi john's life before joining isis. >> jonathan deens the and ayman mohyeldin and michael sheehan, served as deputy commissioner of counterterrorism after the 9/11 attacks. thanks for being here. jonathan, what is the latest you are hering from investigators there in new york about the arrests of these three men suspected of wanting to join isis? >> what we've heard from prosecutors, two of the three men confessed, admitted they were indeed intent on wanting to travel overseas to join isis and bought plane tickets and one was trying to board a flight to kennedy and other the had the flight book and they were involved. that according to prosecutors.

we're also hearing, the fbi and immigration agents are running around speaking with others who are associated with these men to see if anyone else might have been connected to this plot. right now it appears there are three core actors one a money man and two men who allegedly wanted to travel overseas and join. but again, they are looking to see if any others were involved. most concerning is not just the fact they wanted to travel overseas but some of the statements that were made we heard about how they talked about wanting to bomb coney island shoot at police officers perhaps if they ever had the chance to go after the president of the united states. so the rhetoric is there, no evidence they have obtained weapons but according to prosecutors and fbi, they certainly obtained cash and plane tickets and they say they were intent on traveling overseas to join the terror group. >> i want to go to ayman. let's talk about the broader threat from isis just this week. we learned they abducted

potentially 200 christians maybe more in syria, is that number growing and what does this say about the strength of isis right now? >> well that's correct, the number is growing from what it was first reported. now keep in mind this is coming from human rights organizations outside of syria but they have vast and very credible networks inside the country who have been proiting updates on syrian community and christian communities affected by this rampage. what we've learned is isis fighters over the course of the last several days going as far back as monday began to go through some of these villages in the northeastern province in northeast syria and started to go through villages and began abducting the men and women and children, including elderly. according to the human rights organization, they believe they have as many as 250 christians in isis captivity. what we've seen in the past given isis' treatment of

minorities including what they did with egyptian christians in libya, we know that isis has been extremely brutal in the way it has o pressed and sometimes killed min orts. we don't know the fate of these individuals yet. there are some indications from these organizations that there's an effort to try to secure their release, but given isis' past that does not seem to be in the cards, kristen. >> michael, i want to shift to you, what's the motivation here? ayman talked about the fact they targeted minority groups. is this also about trying to get more hostages? >> not really i think they have plenty of hostages, they are trying to intimidate the population through sheer brutal terror. they don't want anyone in the area they control to think about becoming an informant from the operations being directed against them. >> let's talk about this threat of lone wolf actors that we were reminded of yet again after the arrests in new york. dni chief james clapper said the

home grown violent extremists continue to pose the most likely threat to the homeland. what do you make of that? are we on top of this problem? do we have a grasp of it? >> i think he's right and the good news is it's difficult for a foreign fighter to travel to the u.s. they have to go through a lot of hurdles, so it is the domestic person that is the primary threat. there's no question about it they've been there a long time many many years, i've seen them when i was at nypd working with the fbi. the problem is they've been motivated by isis and social media and expertise. so that's why he's coming out and saying that. >> you talk about social media, there are actually some calls in some communities, including in france, to have a ban on isis related groups or enthusiasts from being able to go online going on twitter. have you heard any discussion about that here? is that something we need to look into? >> in the united states it is illegal for someone to have -- to conspire with a terrorist

group. but in order to ban them from getting on that it's very difficult. we have tried to shut down isis and al qaeda websites in the past and we continue to do that but it's very difficult. they continue to adapt and are able to reach their audience. >> ayman, back to you finally, one of the key concerns is the border between turkey and syria. it is porous it is not well monitored. what is being done to try to crack down and improve security along that border? >> well the turkish government has stepped up patrols and tried to keep a close eye on individuals arriving into various airports in southeast turkey but you're right, it's 500 miles of very difficult terrain. it's almost impossible for the turkish authorities to maintain a complete 24-hour 7 day a week vigilant watch on who is crossing in and out. thousands of foreign fighters managed to cross that border but it is an indication of how much of a challenge is for the

turkish authorities for them to keep an eye on everyone going in and out. >> thank you so much for your insights this afternoon. we really appreciate it. coming up holding colleges and universities accountable for the way they address sexual assault on campus. this is msnbc. stay with us.

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new york senator kirstin gillibrand. thank you both for being here. senator gillibrand i want to start with you, how confident are you that if passed this bill would do what it aims to do to improve accountable and transparency? >> i think this bill will effectively flip the incentives because right now schools have no incentive to actually follow the law, to make sure their campuses are safe under title nine and make sure they report incidents of rape under the cleary act. when they do report these things it becoming publicly known and they don't want the bad press. because we've done so much to flip incentives to increase fines and increase responsibility and also increase transparency through a survey that will be confidential and across every school on the climate of these schools, i think that level of transparency will show a very different landscape and colleges have a reason now to comply. >> senator blumenthat willl, this bill was introduced over the summer

why do you have any expectation it might pass now when it didn't when it was first introduced. >> we introduced it at the end of the last session. what we have now is a much stronger bipartisan coalition. i want to start bipartisan some of the members who have already co-sponsored this bill are probably in the further right reaches of our republican friends and colleagues. so we have -- colleges and universities have made some progress but not nearly enough. the need is as great now as it was before. it's a need for leadership for funding, for confidential advisers and access to the criminal justice system and also a set of standards for the internal disciplinary process. and a culture of safety that has to be changed and there's a felt need among officials. >> what kind of reaction are you getting from the schools?

>> in new york state, the largest student body in the country, 500,000 students endorsed the provisions of this bill and think it is smart and will help them secure their campuses. this issue is coming straight from the grass roots. this entire reform effort started by men and women who were brutally raped on campuses and not only did not receive justice but blamed or retaliated against. they have brought their stories forward. and we are carrying these stories and telling these stories, when anyone hears them they are not only enraged but demand justice for the students. our students should not have to have a greater risk of getting raped because they are in school. they should be able to go to college, have a safe campus and not have to endure these horrible crimes. we need justice and transparency and this bill will be able to do both. >> i want to quickly switch over to the fight right now on capitol hill over dhs funding. both of you, i'm going to get both of your reaction to this

do you think you're going to get this resolved by midnight tomorrow night? senator blumenthal first to you? >> i think the senate will act, i hope certainly it will act by midnight tomorrow night. i don't know whether the house will do so. but i think that going back to the campus sexual assault bill there's an example of bipartisan cooperation and listening to people. that is what congress needs to do, people want dhs to be funded and want a clean bill. they know it's a matter of our security and safety as a nation. world is more dangerous than ever before. >> senator gillibrand he doesn't sound that optimistic, do you think it's going to get done by tomorrow midnight? >> i do. these threats are serious. we just had three people arrested in brooklyn who were intent on joining isil if they weren't able to join we thwarted over a dozen terror attempts since 9/11 because of

our law enforcement. we need a clean dhs bill and if we don't, it puts us at greater risk. i believe the senate will come together asenator blumenthal said. i think common sense will prevail. >> thanks to both of you so much for joining us this afternoon. >> thank you. >> we will have much more ahead. stay with us. good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male

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it's 1:00 p.m. on the east coast and 10:00 a.m. on the west. the unmasking the public face of isis' assassinations mohammed emwazi. the revelation has prompted disbelief from those who new emwazi, including the director of one british hul an rights group, cage. >> you might be surprised to know that the man that i knew was extremely kind, and extremely gentle and soft spoken, was the most humble young person that i knew. >> following developments there in london where emwazi lived, chief global correspondent bill neely, what do we know about

emwazi and how he might have been radicalized. >> the man who had this nickname we know he was a young man from west london. you just heard the director of an advocacy group called cage saying he didn't just live in britain but radicalized by britain by the treatment he reefd in 2009 after he graduated from computer sciences from westminster he went to tanzania he was picked up and questioned and deported to the netherlands where he was questioned again by british security officials about was he going to somalia to join the al shabab terror network there. once again in 2010 he was picked up by mi5, fingerprinted and searched and questioned again. and of course through the time line eventually in 2013 probably, he ends up i