produced by the terror group isis. while the white house is not confirming the identity of the man, a u.s. intelligence official has confirmed to nbc news that the suspect's nameç is mohammed emwazi. >> we are an islamic state. >> emwazi is believed to be the masked manage you see there that was heard in several videos showing the lead up and the aftermath of the beheading of hostages including americans james foley, stephen sotloff. peter king, who sits on the house homeland security committee, sat down with my colleague kristen welker alné.l discussed the difficulty of actually captures emwazi. >> as far as getting closer, i agree, saying we don't know exactly where he is and we don't have very much intelligence on the ground. so my belief would be if we get him right now, it's going to be by luck. ever since snowden made his disclosures, isis and others have changed their means of

communication. and we don't have many people on the ground at all, if any so it's hard to have the intelligence to know where he is. . >> nbc news foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin joins me now. we now have a name. presumably they know where he lives in london. we've seen pictures of the apartment in london where he and his family live. why is it there's so little chance of trying to zero in on this person? you what gives? >> we should be clear that it's only coming to light for journalists and the public. it's very possible that intelligence officials and by all indications intelligence officials did know who this individual was for several months. the trick has been trying to identify where he might be on a very complex battlefield where identity of individuals is obviously kept very, you know, tight. the movements are very restricted. communication is probably not that easy to tap into. so although the name is now coming out into the public there's no doubt that officials wanted the name early on to be able to identify close associates, networks.

was he receiving any kind of material support from abroad? was he trying to communicate with his family? was he trying to communicate with people in kuwait? which seems to be his original country of origin. there are a lot of questions the intelligence officials were probably trying to build and answer around making thise inging profile of him. >> all right. thanks very much, ayman mohyeldin. appreciate it. meanwhile in brooklyn, investigators are trying to piece together more information about the three men who appeared in court on wednesday accused of being lone wolf isis sympathizers who allegedly discussed plans to assassinate president obama and bomb coney island. msnbc's adam reince is in brooklyn. what's the latest on this case? >> what was most striking joy about these alleged want-to-be terrorists when they entered court yesterday was how young they looked. only 19 and 24 years old.

the judge read them their rights. the prosecutors said these are outrageous threats that they were making. police commissioner bratton said, this is real, this is exactly the lone-wolf type of terrorist they've been talking about. back here at their apartment everything seemed to be normal. nothing out of the ordinary. they paid their rent on time, and their next hearing is on march 11th. joy? >> all right. adam thanks very much. steve clemens is the washington editor at large for "the atlantic" and msnbc contributor. let's try to put these things together. you have these three supposedly lone-wolf suspects in brooklyn that were doing various plots. then you have now the unmasks of the man that we've seen in these videos who was nicknamed jihadi john. does it appear that maybe now, at least intelligence officials are starting to get a handle on how to unravel these various isis networks or are these just three lucky breaks? >> i think it's not necessarily

an unraveling package we have here. we have essentially good intelligence that the government is getting and highlighting, focusing on a certain type of person if you will, and looking at communications. i think we're beginning to get a sense of the pattern which is disconcerting. a couple of the guys picked up in brooklyn had jobs. emwazi grew up in a middle-class family in kuwait. they did not stand out in their time as being people who had a big ax to grind with the societies within which they lived. and so i'm impressed with the intelligence that these people are emerging. >> and that is interesting because you do have this kind of conceit that people who are involved are sort of downtrodden, on the margins of society. as you point out, emwazi comes from a middle-class family, a kuwaiti family. may have had issues in "the washington post" piece that he might have felt harassed by british authorities. again, you have this disparate

profile. you have someone from kazakhstan, one person from uzbekistan. there doesn't seem to be an emerge emerging, succinct profile. >> no, other than the fact you get moments of disillusionment, moments where they feel like their society is not delivering for them. despite the fact the resources they had in hand are far greater than some of the communities we've been covering in france, for example. we even had in the saudi hijacker case a number of people of means that were part of that in the 9/11 side. so i think we need to revisit some of our assumptions about what draws people into this terror track. the three young women that just left britain allegedly to join isis in syria as well. this is another one of these cases where our typical way of calculating all of this doesn't make much sense. >> absolutely. to say nothing of osama bin laden, a very wealthy individual, the;jw son of a very wealthy man.

so there isn't any sort of poverty element to it. going back just a moment to emwazi, what do you make of the fact that at least those who have escaped#ñ or managed to get out of isis captivity t@éked about these guys they called beatles beatles, these brits, including the guy they call jihadi john, as being particularly brutal and being the ones to taunt and really be in charge of quote/unquote the western hostages. that kind of hostility to the west from people who were raised in the west. >> well, i mean this does get down to another element of this. no matter what means these people had at their hands how well off their families were, there seems to be something of a deep disaffection with the societies they came from. i've noticed that over the last 10, 11 years as we've looked at the broad notion about terrorism within the u.k. and elsewhere that it doesn't surprise me that some of these young men who have come out feel very, very stridently that they've got to make a comment and actually compete with others to show how ferocious their antipathy for

britain and the west is.n"oerñindeed. steve is going to be back with us in a while. thank you for now steve. see you shortly. and as new terrorist threats crop up ¡.xabroad and at home, a manufactured crisis involving the funding of the department of homeland security rolls merrily along on capitol hill. right now homeland security secretary jeh johnson is urging house lawmakers to follow the senate's lead and pass a clean dhs funding bill before the deadline. but with all eyes one- house it's still unclear how long speaker john boehner will hold up a vote on a clean bill. so far, he isn't backing down on a bill that the house passed last month to fund homeland security and reverse president obama's executive action on immigration. secretary johnson says the country will be less safe if the department of homeland security shuts down. here's john boehner's response to that. >> if ands and buts were candy and nut, every day would be christmas. we passed a bill to fund the

department of homeland security six weeks ago. time for the senate to act. >> earlier today, democratic leaders called for an end to the tomfoolery. >> we've had this comedy of errors that has been going on, this major amateur hour and nonlegislation. >> i don't know if it's crazy it feels like eighth grade civics class. >> nbc's luke russert is on capitol hill. i'm hearing about hands and candy. it's very confusing. walk us toward the end game. how does this end? because it has to end with john boehner taking action, no? >> correct. the 5#?pwion is when will that happen. we still do not know how the senate's going to move procedurally. we had the vote yesterday. 98-2 to move forward to fund the department of homeland security. a senator like jeff sessions of alabama, ted cruz of texas, they haven't given any indication they're going to do this, but it's a possibility they could, should we say, gum up the works and make that chamber have to go all the way until sunday if they

wanted to. if that does not happen f the senate moves along as scheduled and can get this done as early as tomorrow, then john boehner has a decision to make. does he take that senate bill or does he say, you know what i'm going to fight about immigration right here while cpac is in town while all the outspoken conservatives are within roughly the same zip code, and we're going to make that fight and make the stand right now. or he could do perhaps, some temporary two-week funding of the department of homeland security, two-month funding bill. i asked nancy pelosi%whether she would give boehner cover because he would need democraticddur(lc% votes presumably to even pass a temporary funding of the department of homeland security that did not contain any immigration lp we expect john boehner to walk his members through the options, gauge their temperature, see where they want to go. he's playing his cards really close to the vest. there's no doubt that at some point, they're going to have to

pass a clean bill. that's what mitch mcconnell sort of made happen by agreeing to this. it's just a question of how much boehner allows his conservative faction within the house gop conference to beat their chests scream and yell, and get angry. i should also mention, this is an important point here, conservative media, they're calling for mitch mcconnell's head right now. so you can only imagine what will happen to john boehner, who's from the more conservative chamber if in fact, he does go along with this. a lot of balls up in the air. >> you know, luke if hands and buts were candy and nut, that would all make sense to me. it does seem the path has been laid out by mitch mcconnell. really curious why john boehner is not taking it. thank you for unraveling that. >> take care. be well. as congress continues to play hardball on dhs funding and immigration, i'll speak to the man who knows the d.c. game the best. msnbc's chris matthews will be here onset right after the break. plus, it's been aç bad few weeks for israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu, who's caught

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even after we pass bipartisan legislation in the senate, i gave the republicans a year and a half, a year and a half to just call the bill. we had the votes. they wouldn't do it. >> that was president obama last night explaining why he felt executive action on immigration was so critical because house republicans refused to take up a bipartisan senate bill. now we're in the middle of yet another government shutdown showdown with both democrats and republicans blaming each other, which is déjà vu all over again.

but this time there's one very big difference. republicans now control both houses of congress, and president obama is having none of the finger pointing in democrats' direction. chris matthews is the host of "hardball" on msnbc. first of all, thank you for being here >> it's a joy, joy. you are so great. >> thank you. thank you. as are you. >> can you stop there with that? >> i know. i'm so excited. but chris, please explain to me when a compromise has been handed to house speaker john boehner by mitch mcconnell, whatever you think of him he's a hell of a negotiator. he's created a split vote where his caucus can vote on immigration and vote on a clean dhs bill. why doesn't boehner take that up and go for it? >> probably because 50 or 100 of his caucus members don't want to go home to a primary fight. they don't want to face their people at home. you opened the door. they're here illegally. that's because of you.

you did that. why don't you enforce the law? how come you became the president what he wanted in the executive order?sz why didn't you stand up to the president? i'm giving you the mouth they're going to face at home. they say, i'd rather fight with john boehner than the people back home. just remember f you come from a rural district there are very few hispanic people in your district. they don't have nighminorities in them. this guy talking about cantaloupe caps he's making personal insults, and he knows it won't hurt him at home. it's peter king. it's not the eastern guys. rural people southern people. you know. they don't speak for every american. they speak for the whites basically. i think it's politics. i think the tea party is still very strong in the republican party. >> no, clearly. then you have peter king tweeting it's like being around crazy people. he thinks it's insane because you have republicans -- >> he is from new york, a regular suburban neighborhood of

working middle-class people. he's not from a bunch of crazy people who are obsessed -- they probably don't have that many hispanics moving into the neighborhood, to be blunt about it. it's not a big social issue with his people. but boehner, you know, i think mitch mcconnell, you don't have to like what he does, i don't most of the time, but he's really cagey. he figured out four days to go he won't get blamed. he'll push it right up to the fourth day. then harry reid gets called out there because he can't change his story fast enough. he plays his game. now they're back with three days to get it done. now two days to get it done. before we went on the air, you were saying they're going to go up to tomorrow night and jam boehner with the decision. i don't think boehner calls the shots in his caucus. he's hung up by this rule. you need 218 votes to pass the house. 110 to get a majority of your own caucus. democrats aren't going to help them much. he's going to have to get republicans.

in fact, they can't help. >> and he has to go to nancy pelosi. is that the sticking point? >> you were saying that before. that assumes logic. he doesn't need 218 votes. he needs a majority of republicans of that 218. >> so nobody has more experience on this than you, having worked on the hill. how does this end? i was asking luke about the end game. this has to come to an end, probably tomorrow night. how does it end? >> well, i think, you know i was saying people use words like infrastructure andkkp appropriations. they bore the hell out of people. but when we get attacked and don't have enough money going to tsa officials at the airport because the wrong person gets through, all the sudden you're in danger. so how many hours are the republicans willing to risk nothing bad happens starting midnight tomorrow might? that's saturday, sunday, monday. how many days will they let pass on the clock and calendar before they say our number is up, we're going to get hit with something bad, and we'll be blamed for it. i think we learned something

from bill clinton. republicans get blamed for=luit&c% government shutdowns. they just do. they deserve it in most of the cases, but they get the credit for being the guys who screwed it up because they don't like government. >> let'sc" turn for a moment to this issue of immigration. you have the president now saying don't look in this direction if you want to b out who's obstructing immigration. is there anything at this point -- it is a priority of this administration to ggt an immigration bill through. can it be done? >> i'd like to believe that. >> you'd like to believe it's a priority or that it can get done? >> that passing a bill is the priority. or is it just building up the hispanic vote for the democratic party? look, here's one thing. i know i'm a super good government guy. if obama really wanted the bill and not the issue he'd go to the republicans and say in a back room where nobody is listening, how can i help you sell the fact we're going to enforce this law? we're not going to pass all the goody stuff letting people get legalized. we're going to stop illegal hiring. we're going to get serious about

this, which is a magnet for people coming here. stop that. talk about deportation. that's all sloppy police business. stop illegal hiring. now, if he actually sat down with boehner and a bunch of these guys, kevin mccarthy and the rest, say said, this is going to work because we're committed. the problem he's gotten into is they don't trust him to enforce the law. how can you make a deal with a guy when he says i'm for comprehensive immigration reform, when you know he isn't really? a lot of the people -- and i understand what they have to do for a living. advocates for hispanic rights and latino rights in this &q=utry, they don't want to say they're for tough enforcement. if they don't why should the republicans buckle? maybe it's going to take a republican to do immigration reform like raikeagan did. somebody who's going to enforce the law. they really are americans in effect. but we're going to stop this sloppy border situation where the only country in the world where you can walk into because

somebody wants to hire you. the american people should decide who comes into america, whether people come in or not, not some businessman that wants to hire you for a cheap rate. >> i have too a mclaughlin group style exit question. if the president were to have that conversation with john boehner, could john boehner deliver that in the house? >> it would take absolute belief that it would be comprehensive, that it would be a chance to people who really are americans to become officially americans and> and i don't know if they can deliver, but you're theov÷ best. thank you so much. >> that's a nice thing joy reid. i think i found you. i think i went to harvard looking for you. >> i'll tell you, when i first

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it's time for we the tweeple. and today you're taking on terrorists and their useèv÷ of twitter. these are just a few of the known terrorist groups that have at least one twitter account. and isis just posted this video to twitter allegedly showing members of the groupeqou destroying priceless artifacts in the iraqi city of mosul. nbc news has not confirmed this, but it still raises the question yet again of whether twitter should ban isis and similar groups from using its platform. you're debating this fiercely

and france's interior minister has already met with google facebook and twitter this month about that very question. but just as our own justice department prepares to go to war with isis by possibly criminalizing the spread of its propaganda online, as the daily beast puts it this announcement raises questions about where the government should draw the line between support for a terrorist group and legally protected free speech. a line that's important to consider since just yesterday three brooklyn residents were arrested for conspireing on social media to support isis. on a much more positive note, first lady michelle obama is using social media to celebrate five years of her let's move campaign with the #gimmiefive, and she's resr.%q her hubby to take this explanation viral using that hashtag. >> i'm going to ask folks across the country to gimmie five. i want kids, parents, maybe a few celebrities to give me five ways to be healthy. for example, they can eat five new veggies or two five jumping

jacks or push-ups. >> the first lady goes on to list more ways to be healthy every day, and she tweeted this fabulous video of beyonce to get things rolling. and this fellow already has tweeted his five things. five squats, five push-ups, five sittups -- woo, that sounds like a great meanwhile, the brit awards are still trending. madonna tooku(e this spectacular tumble at ceremony yesterday. she got caught up in her cape, and you're creating crazy memes, poking fun at the 56-year-old. but while some debate if the material girl is too matronly for elaborate stage stunts some of you are channelling kanye west, who also had a buzzworthy performance last night. and you're sending stweets like this. i love janet but madonna had one of the best wardrobe malfunctions of all time. and you can join the conversation on twitter facebook, instagram, and msnbc.com.

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report." here's a look at what we're watching. the senate judiciary committee has voted 12-8 to approve loretta lynch's nomination for attorney general. it's unclear when a final vote on lynch's nomination will occur in the full senate. though, a senate aid says it could be considered as soon as next week. and less than two days after a jury found eddie ray routh guilty, a texas congressman has introduced the chris kyle medal of honor act. the bill would authorize and request the president to award the medal of honor to the former navy s.e.a.l. for acts of valor during operation iraqi freedom. and right now in national harbor, maryland conservatives are gathering for the annual woodstock of conservatism known as cpac. 2016 presidential hopefuls including ben carson and ted cruz, took the stage for the usual affair. >> the obamacare is a train wreck. and that's actually not fair to train wrecks. >> you're going to hear it directly from me and bluntly

because i care. if i didn't care, there's to reason to do this. >> but sit down and shut up? >> sometimes people need to be told to sit down and shut up. >> if you're black andyyy> opposed to progressive agenda and you're pro-life and you're pro-family, they don't even know what to call you. i mean you end up on some kind of watch list for extremists. >> msnbc's kasey hunt joins me live. is anyone whose name begins with "c" not particularly resonating well with the cpac audience? >> hey, joy. yeah, the whole gang is here for this gathering of conservative activists and the like. i will say i spent some time wandering around the halls just before coming here to talk to you. i will say that this is going to be a tough crowd for jeb bush. he's not the kind of candidate this the people who are attending this particular summit seem to be interested in. i would say scott walker on the other hand, is somebody who seems to be resonating pretty

well here. i think that's partially a reflection of the fact that he's gotten this bump in the polls lately between being very confrontational about those comments that rudy giuliani made about president combined with his well-received speech in iowa and bump in the polls here. i think the real question is going to be how bush manages to perform. you'll remember he was here in 2013. he gave a dinner speech that year. and that was sort of coming off all of the republican losses in 2012 when the party was sort of looking inward and trying to decide what they needed to do to win in 2016. the consensus was that they needed to reach out to more minorities, to sort of expand the party and that was a message that jeb bush came with then. and it wasn't particularly well received at the time. this isn't a crowd looking to hear that from him. i think it will be interesting to see how he approaches his q&a session tomorrow. >> yeah, that will be very interesting. we know you'll be watching it for us. thank you very much. and today house speaker john boehner defended israel's

benjamin netevp$u from a white house official who called the prime minister's speech before congress next week destructive. >> what is destruktsive, in my view, is making a bad deal that paves the way for a nuclear iran. that's destructive, and that's why it's so important for the american people to hear what prime minister netanyahu has to say about the grave threats that we're facing. >> white house national security adviser susan rice made the comment on tuesday, saying the invite from boehner and netanyahu's speech would interject partisan politics during ongoing nuclear talks with iran, which the israeli prime minister and many republicans oppose. and back: clemens, washington editor at large for "the atlantic" and msnbc contributor. so steve, you have now netanyahu in what does appear to be a mess. he has, in the view of what i've been reading in other outlet jeopardized in the minds of some of his own countrymen the strength of the israeli relationship with the u.s. at a time when president obama is still here for two years.

do you think this is a bigger problem for him inside israel than maybe americans realize?-l&óñ >> i absolutely think it is. i think it's been remarkable. a few years ago i wrote a piece about bibi netanyahu in which i said he was one of the most brilliant leaders in theworld in terms of inventing leverage out of thin air. he had a way of putting barack obama and joe biden and the u.s. government on edge making it do somersaults over and over and over again to prove how sack ro sangtspj and permanent u.s.-israel relations were. i now withdraw that. bibi netanyahu has taken actions that have not only backfired and made him look like an obnoxious pugnacious leader that many of his friends support but when susan rice said this is damaging the very fabric of the relationship, that's a real red flag. it's an extraordinary moment. i think that the israeli people are feeling that. and this was self-inflicted by their prime minister. >> yeah, and can you just explain for those who may notá

understand why it is so important and why the bipartisan really sort of almost lock-step support that american politicians in both parties have had for israel over the years, why does that matter? just very briefly explain what he may have jeopardized.ypk4ó >> i think, you know, israel is a vital ally of the united states, and traditionally in terms of american politics the american jewish community has been among the highest givers and donors to the u.s. political system. very civically engaged. a great majority of those have been democrats. what bibi netanyahu has done is put a wedge deeply between republican-american jews and democratic-american jews, both of whom have been very engaged in the american political process. but the calculation that netanyahu thought

and he's broken that apart in a remarkable way. >> indeed. well, steve, thanks for helping us understand that. really appreciate it. >> thank you, joy. three years after his death, there will be no federal charges stemming from the killing of unarmed teen trayvon martin. but that's not the only highly charged case that the department of justice has been considering. so what are the chances that the families of eric garner and michael brown will see action from the fed? we'll discuss that next. oh yea, that's coming down let's get some rocks, man. health can change in a minute. so cvs health is changing healthcare. making it more accessible and affordable with walk-in medical care, no appointments needed and most insurance accepted. minuteclinic. another innovation from cvs health. because health is everything. [ female announcer ] hands were made for talking. feet...tiptoeing.

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today marks three years to the day since trayvon martin was shot to death in sanford, florida. this year the occasion is marked by the news that the justice department has closed its civil rights investigation into the unarmed teen's death at the hands of george zimmerman. the doj concluded that there's not enough evidence to file charges against zimmerman who was acquitted of second-degree murder and manslaughter by a florida jury in 2013.

zimmerman says he acted in self-defense. martin's family has said they're disappointed but undeterred if their mission to empower others who demand justice and peace. indeed calls for justice are on the rise. right now the justice department is still working two separate investigations sparked by the fatal police shootings of unarmed ferguson teenager michael brown over the summer and there's a federal investigation into the apparent chokehold death of staten island man eric garner and that too, is ongoing. just this week the aclu has asked the doj to assist in the investigation of the fatal police shooting in washington earlier this month. the senior digital editor at ebony.com and michael denzel smith is a contributing writer at "the nation." thank you all for being here. i'm going to go to you first, tremaine. i think you and i got to know each other in sanford, florida. for a moment, it burned so hot in the national conversation. then the trayvon martin case was

sort of soupuperseded by other investigations. but this really sparked the movement. >> when we think in terms of the black lives movement they all began around the trayvon martin case. it became this kind of galvanizing force where everyone had to pay attention. it didn't burn as hot as ferguson later, of course, but this was really the foundation for all of these other movements to spring off of. for the first time they saw this young man who looked just like them. >> i'm wondering, michael, was there a palpable difference in the way the trayvon martin case resonated because he was killed by a civilian as opposed to the cases like michael brown's where law enforcement was then part of the picture, or is this just all of a piece in the minds of most young black men like yourself? >> oh, absolutely. it's a part of the whole criminalization of black youth. like the reason that trayvon martin is killed by george zimmerman is that because

zimmerman sees him as a criminal element. he sees him as a criminal threat in his neighborhood invading his space. he's sending a message, like you are not welcome here. and it's the same thing with michael brown. it just happens to be enforced by the legal system in which, you know, darren wilson is empowered by our laws to kill michael brown and then leave his body in the street for 4 1/2 hours. same thing with stanley jones, killed in detroit, and the police officers breaking into her home and getting the wrong house and shooting and killing her while she slept in the bed. all of these things have to do with the fact that we have a legal system set up whereby we criminalize the actions or behaviors of young black people and people whether vigilantes or police officers, are emboldened and empowered to take their lives. >> one of the things i think has happened is we've made this renewed fe kous on the lives of young black men, but there are

young back women finding themselves in the same positions. i'm wondering what you expect to hear today from the president. he did touch the third rail twice when it came to trayvon martin saying if he had a son, he would look like trayvon, which seemed self-evident enough, but it ignited this huge conflagration. now we come to this third anniversary. he's making remarks later today. what do you expect to hear and what would you like to hear? >> well i think that what i expect to hear and what i'd like to hear from our president are two different things, unfortunately. i don't think he's going to touch that hot rail a third time. i think that president obama is going to acknowledge the death of trayvon martin as a tragedy, as he has, on many occasions, but i don't think he's going to feel comfortable or empowered to talk to the real issue at hand, which is what michael said the criminalization of black bodies particularly young black bodies. this this case a young black

man by somebody who saw himself as an agent of the law despite the fact he had not been hired to be on any police force and had tried to do so. i don't think that our president is ready to have that really painful conversation with the nation. there was certainly a time in which he tried. the pushback was so loud and so profound and so immediate. you know i don't know that he's going to go there again and it's unfortunate. we're going to continue to see this sort of thing happening over and over again, and while i think that our president has taken the legal steps that he can in terms of putting attorney general holder in the position to at least investigate, you know, these cases, but to say as somebody who is so much a thought leader and so much an influencer we have to talk about the way in which this country treats black people. and i don't think we're going to get that from him today, unfortunately. >> i mean tremaine on what the president can do and what the administration can do there are these federal investigations that in the case of george

zimmerman has now been closed. but you still have these other open cases. you still have the eric garner chokehold death, and you still have the michael brown case. is there a sense when you talk with the activists who are still active in the black lives matter movement that there's anything new expected when those two cases are announced, that it'll be any different than it was in the zimmerman case? >> almost to a person, there's no hope that the federal investigation will yield anything at all. but it's important to remember just how high a bar we're talking here. that doesn't necessarily negate the fact that, you know maybe folks were talking because of their race or gender. but there's a willful intent and i stopped and killed you because of your race. that's a high bar to jump over. while the president sun likely to come out and touch that rail one more time the trayvon martin killing really did spark a major shift in the administration, the way they approached race. a lot of times attorney general eric holder will be the proxy for president obama. so of course folks in the

community pushing and fighting for black lives, it won't be enough. >> last word goes to michael. >> this is why we need the black lives matter movement. when the laws that have been passed to protect us don't protect us, what then are we asking? we need a whole new system whereby emmet, trayvon, oscar, all of those lives actually do matter. >> and three of the people that i most wanted to talk to about this issue because you guys are living it and doing some of the finest journalism around it. just three of my favorite people to talk to because you're actually keeping it real. when they say keeping it real this is what people want that to mean. thank you, all, for being here. >> thank you. >> thank you joy. >> coming up with a chicago wind in his sails, i will speak with the man who battled the

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progressive democrats are getting yet another chance to flex their muscles inside the party with chicago's mayoral runoff election. in just six weeks, my next guest will face incumbent and a friend of obama, mayor rahm emanuel. the former white house chief of staff swept into office four years ago with more than 55% of the vote but on tuesday, he couldn't avoid the city's first runoff election since it switched to a nonpartisan primary system in the 1990s. a win for cook county commissioner jesus chuy garcia potentially could represent another prominent progressive voice following wins by new york's bill de blasio and massachusetts' elizabeth warren. and we welcome commissioner garcia to the show.

so, wow, how did you pull this off against the nationally famous, well-known well-funded rahm emanuel? how did you get to the point where you're in a runoff? >> well we put a movement in the city of chicago together that brought neighborhood activists who were tired of being sick and tired, who wanted chicago to go in a different direction, and who stood up to the special interests that have been running the city, benefitting from it while the neighborhoods got school closures skyrocketing violence in their communities, 10,000 shootings, for example, over the past four years. people want something better. they want the city to work for ordinary people. thus the movement to challenge the entrenched interests at city hall and move the city in a new direction. >> yeah, and, you know, the city of chicago it is sort of an epic mayoralty. you have the great harold washington. really epic characters there. but you also have a city that's ethnically extremely diverse.

32.9% african-american 31.7 non-hispanic white. how are you politicking that piece of it to make yourself the candidate for all of those communities? >> well, i have a long history in chicago as a community organizer, as a community builder, someone involved in public policy issues across ethnicity, race, and faith. that's what gave me the ability to, in a three-month period bring together this coalition that registered the most signatures of any candidate, that opened nine field offices, that has the support of many grassroots unions in the chicagoland area. the chicago teachers union, of course, through its great leader karen lewis, taught us you can fight back that you can win when powerful mayors like rahm emanuel seek to privatize our school system to break the chicago teacher's union. as a result, it woke the city up

and really made us think, can chicago do better? can it fare better if we have a mayor in city hall and a city council who really embrace the neighborhoods and the quality of life issues of every day chicagoans. so the multiracial, multiethnic coalition got to work and fought back, and we denied the mayor, who spent $14 million this round to get re-elected pulled every string possible, begged for every favor that could be done and still came up short because chicagoans are disenchanted and want to go in a different direction. >> and i should note we did invite mayor rahm emanuel to come on the air today. he did not get back to us. but the school's piece is interesting to me. that has been an issue. is that really the crux of the anger against mayor emanuel, this idea of closing schools, particularly in neighborhoods where schools now have to travel further and sometimes in neighborhoods that aren't necessarily safe to get to school? >> it is an issue that has drawn deep passion and resentment from

parents, from student, from community leaders. it happened in some of chicago's most disinvested communities and as a consequence, these communities are now left with boarded up school buildings. it snuffed the life out of many of the neighborhoods, and children have to walk long distances to school. parents are worried. and it's really a disruption to what was already a fragile neighborhood in chicago. it happened also primarily in african-american and latino communities. so it's really struck a cord with people. people want something better, and they want a mayor who's going to fight for public education and for good neighborhood schools. they're not seeing that from rahm emanuel. instead, they're seeing powerful people, the rich and the famous and hollywood money, coming into chicago, hedge fund money coming into chicago, and they're asking, is there a direct relationship between those who give to the mayor and benefit because certainly the neighborhoods aren't experiencing the prosperity in the city center. >> yeah, indeed.

well, we will definitely be keeping an eye on this. you have some cool social media, too. thank you very much for being here. best of luck to you, sir. >> thank you. off to a runoff on april 7th. >> all right. sounds good. we'll definitely keep an eye on it. thank you, sir. that wraps things up for "the reid report." see you back here tomorrow at 2:00 p.m. eastern. be sure to visit us online at thereidreport .msnbc.com. "the cycle" is up next. where are my cyclists? what you guys got going on? >> a big show today. the man with that british accent we've seen in those isis videos we know who he is know his name. we're going to have senator joe manchin on to talk about that. and also the dhs fight. we have army's point person on terror talking about why terrorism keeps repeating itself. also, a segment on the olympics and why you should be concerned it might come to a city near you. >> oh wait a minute. concerned, olympics city near you? sounds fascinating. we'll keep an eye on that.

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jihadi john had a face, and now he has a name. the united states' commitment and the president's commitment to ensuring that we find and hold accountable the terrorists who are responsible for the murders of american citizens has never been stronger. >> good afternoon. i'm abby huntsman. as we come on the air today, the man known around the world for carrying out the bloody beheadings of at least three americans is no longer anonymous. the man is mohammed emwazi. he was born in kuwait but grew up in an affluent london neighborhood. he graduated with a degree in computer programming. he told a london rights group he ha