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eleventh hour. congress funds the department of homeland security just before the deadline but there's a huge catch. why it's not nearly over. a cold spell again to grip parts of the country. where exactly it will hit and how long it will last ahead. the passing of a television icon. leonard nimoy and the role that changed his life >> cheers and jeers. we'll tell you who got the best reception and the worst.
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good morning, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt". it went down to the wire on capitol hill last night. but congress passed a bill to keep the department of homeland security funded. but it's for one week which sets up another similar battle. house minority leader nancy pelosi spoke shortly after the vote. >> we certainly want to protect the american people every minute of every day, 24/7 and that includes today. and we believe in the next seven days hopefully five that we will have a bill that takes us to the end of the year. >> well the measure passed 357-60. and president obama signed it a short time before midnight. nbc's kristen welker is at the white house with the details. good morning, kristen. >> reporter: alex good morning. late last night president obama signed the bill to fund dhs. but it was a political nail biter with less than two hours before the department of homeland security was scheduled
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to shut down. congress passed a one-week extension to keep the agency open. that short-term resolution came after an embarrassing defeat for house speaker john boehner. early in the evening boehner brought to a vote a bill that would have funded the agency for three weeks. but he failed to get members of his own party. so ultimately that proposal failed. conservative republicans want any legislation that funds dhs to also block the president's immigration action which would provide relief to millions of immigrants. they argue the president has overstepped his constitutional authority. the president has defended his action on immigration and vowed to veto any bill that would block him. the rationale is that the extra time will give this sharply divided congress some room to try to reach a longer term deal. this all comes just as republicans have taken control of congress and mitch mcconnell
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vowed to never shut down the government again. this is the first true test of that pledge. alex this morning some republican lawmakers are even privately wondering if the latest incident could threaten to unravel boehner's speakership. back to you. >> thank you so much. we'll talk to kristen again in 10 minutes, more politics. now to weather. here's what it looked like in northern new mexico last night. there were so many accidents in albuquerque, police stopped responding to noninjury classes. then in texas, sudden whiteout conditions led to hundreds of accident including a 20-car pileup outside of dallas. >> a lot of people scattered. >> i'm stuck on the side of the road. this is not what i thought texas was going to do. >> y'all have more snow than we do in north carolina. >> a 20-minute trip took drivers
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two hours. what's ahead for this weekend? reynolds wolf has more from chicago. good morning reynolds. >> reporter: that's right, alex. we are coming to you from chicago. it is brutal. temperatures right at zero earlier, which broke an all-time record setback in 1804. staggering. the sights are night. chicago tribune building the realtor building michigan avenue, and the trump building over to my right. but the thing that encapsulates every bit of it is the cold air locked in place. not only do we have the cold air here but in the suburbs, some of the temperatures were minus 14. it is staggering. what we can expect later on is an uptick in terms of temperatures going from the teens, to 20s, tomorrow in the 30s. get this we have another round of snow moving later in tonight, sticking around tomorrow. light activity in terms of snowfall in chicago. heavier farther to the south, maybe four or five.
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it is the winter that will not let go for much of the region. one other note too, alex that is interesting, tomorrow morning they will have the polar plunge here. people getting out in lake michigan swimming around in the cold water. on hopefully it will help bring spring a little bit faster. drying up and probably questioning their sanity. but it is for a wonderful cause. all proceeds benefit special olympics. we'll send it back to you. >> that is kind of weird. appreciate that, though. other news mourners are gathered in russia. he served as department of prime minister in the 1990s was a sharp critic of the putin administration highlighting its in efficiency and corruption. president obama issued a statement condemning the murder and called on russia's
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government to start a prompt and efficient investigation. the dzhokhar tsarnaev trial is going to stay in boston. they say it has not jeopardized his right to a fair trial, as his attorneys claim. it will start next week as scheduled. the attack killed three and injured hundreds. authorities have released the name of a man who went on a shooting rampage in missouri early friday morning. joseph jessie aldridge became unhinged after learning about the death of his mother causing him to go house to house, killing seven people. four are believed to be relatives of aldridge. a british activist group shedding more light on the transformation of middle class londoner muhammad 'em weighs into is gee he'dy john.
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yesterday david cameron vowed to bring him to justice. >> we will do everything we can with the police with the security services with all that we have at our disposal to find these people. >> joining me from london is senior writer for nbcnews.com. what are you seeing in these e-mails? >> reporter: we're seeing a catalog of how this young man became increasingly frustrated over getting stopped and interrogated by british authorities. he said in the e-mails distributed by an advocacy group that the time he was interrogated on a trip to tanzania is a deal that completely changed his life. it is important to note though the e-mails are just one side of events. we don't know what he was doing in tanzania. he said he was there on a safari trip. intelligence services suggested maybe he was trying to link up with a somali terror group. unfortunately, they are just one side but show how he became more
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and more frustrated over getting questioned and interrogated by british authorities. unfortunately the intelligence isn't talking and we don't know their side. >> we do know both sides seem to be pointing fingers at the british security services. cage says emwazi's radicalization is m i5's fault for harassing him. others say the agency dropped the ball and let emwazi get away. what are you hearing? >> security services are definitely coming under a lot of pressure at the moment. front pages are filled with allegations how many more may have slipped through the net. security services flagged tactics. how a man who is known to authorities dating back to 2009 could have slipped through and made it to syria. at the same time the british government is pushing back very hard on any suggestion that the security services might have
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messed up here. and they were incredible, beyond sat tire and amounts to nothing less than an apology for terror. >> i understand he wanted to live in kuwait. he planned to take his life to kuwait. he had a fiancee. reports as far as i can see even two women at different points in his life that he was trying to build a life with. it didn't happen. he would constantly be stopped at the borders interrogated. is that an accurate assessment of what's being reported? >> it's definitely what we are seeing released by this advocacy group. he said in one of the e-mails he said, i feel like a prisoner not in a cage but in london and all he was trying to do is get
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back to kuwait and start a life. >> he's educated right? didn't he graduate from a university? >> yeah. he's kuwaity born. but went to school in london. he went to the university of westminster to study computer programming. so he was educated. that's raising a lot of questions about the theory here that a lot of these young man who are going to wage jihad are coming from impoverished backgrounds. >> all right. cassandra, thank you very much jeb bush did plenty of conservatives walk out as promised? we'll have that as a preview of today's straw poll >> the queen of soul paying tribute to eric holder at the department of justice yesterday.
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would meet william shatner and deforest kelly. >> i always felt i would be with tons of people. and i enjoyed that. then along came spock. >> reporter: 1965 leonard nimoy was cast as the roll in mr. spock in a pilot called "star trek". which initially failed. but when a new pilot and show was rewritten and recast only nimoy as spock remained as a cast member. the new more diverse "star trek" would run for just three years. nimoy became so remembered for this role and little else that he went on to write an auto biography called "i am not spock." he didn't like being typecast and taken less seriously as an actor. >> logical. flawlessly logical >> reporter: however, nimoy would go on playing spock in five more original "star trek"
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movies, two television spin-offs and relaunch in 2009 as an older, wiser spock mentoring his younger self. >> there are so few vulcans left we cannot afford to ignore each other. >> reporter: after 250 roles and a career that spanned more than six decades it will be the logical pointy-eared alien spock that leonard nimoy will be most remembered. >> live long and prosper. >> reporter: chris clackum, nbc news. the skyci-fi channel will honor him tomorrow. cpac is wrapping up in maryland. it is a chance for presidential hopefuls to test the waters including jeb bush who wandered
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into some unfriendly territory. >> the simple fact is there is no plan to deport 11 million people. >> liberal policies have failed our inner cities. >> well as promised joining me once again, kristen welker at the white house. kristen, this was a big test for jeb bush, right? >> reporter: oh, it really was. as the race for the white house heats up the conservative conference was the first big test for florida governor jeb bush. he seemed by many in the republican party as the establishment candidate. but bush defended his conservative credentials. take a look. >> god bless you. >> reporter: he's often thought of as one of the more moderate candidates. but friday jeb bush pushed back against his skeptics describing himself this way. >> practice reform-minded conservative. >> reporter: one of the thorniest issues for bush immigration. he has wrangled republicans by
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calling for comprehensive reforms, stressing the need for better border security and dealing with undocumented immigrants. >> we should give them a path to legal status where they work where they don't receive government benefits where they don't break the law. >> reporter: bush also stood by his record on education, supporting the common core standards which many republicans oppose. >> the federal government has no role in the creation of standards, either directly or indirectly. the federal government has no role in the creation of curriculum and content. >> we don't need a bush. a few people booed and walked out, mostly he got a warm reception. >> he wanted to do no harm. he knew there would be some boos. he wanted to say here are my views. you can like them or lump them but this is who i am. >> reporter: scott walker, ted
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cruz and rand paul bumped up the base. >> it's time for hillary clinton to permanently retire. >> reporter: his mother once said she didn't want to see any more bushes run for president. she is now on board. tonight they will hold the cpac straw poll. senator rand paul has won that the past two years. >> he has. i think the stats are for the last eight years hasn't it been either a romney or a paul >> reporter: that is right. his dad was very popular there as well. look this is something that we watch closely. and really alex it's one of the first indicators about where the base stands. but of course a long way to go before the first votes are cast. >> oh, yes it is. we'll be covering it with you as well kristen welker at the white house. ody of proof. proof of less joint pain.
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in today's three big money headlines, slowdown welcome back and hey cookie. regina lewis, with a good morning to you. let's get to the first headline. a slowdown. why is that not a good economic sign? >> well it's the biggest macro determinant of where it is headed. it went down from 2.6 to 2.4. to put that in perspective, alex. in the '90s, it was 3.4. cap x spending spending on behalf of companies, which is expected to create a virtuous cycle. i spend more as a company, wages go up and ultimately consumers spend that money since 70% of gdp is consumer spending. >> that makes sense. what about welcome back? because that is a good economic sign. >> retailers, a lot of them reporting. we saw a lot of up arrows.
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so in terms of traffic to the stores and spending per person, in fact, the jc penney ceo went so far as to say we're back. kohl's reporting credit card and cash sales were up. the cash piece is particularly intriguing. it suggests that a lower income consumer is coming back. they're the ones that benefit most on a proportional basis. also inherently cash customers more profitable because there is no credit card transaction fee. what they have to watch moving forward is margins. their stop didn't reflect the good news because analysts don't want to resort to deep discount to go get the traffic and sales. >> final headline here lay cookie. why will millions of merges going to be indulging into this treat. >> girl scouts were deemed one of the most innovative because they have gone digital.
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they have their own hashtag called cookie boss. the young girls are making their own youtube videos creating their own web sites. all done safely and securely. it's teaching them much needed skills. i think it's fantastic. take a look. >> yeah. let's play it. >> guess what time it is? girl scout cookie time. >> guess what time it is? it's cookie time. i sell girl scout cookies. >> i thought we told you we were not interested. oh, i'll take 10 boxes. 10 boxes, little girl. >> those are cute. you can tell the little girls probably thought 'em up and just put them out there. >> i agree. it's the next generation of advertising executives in the works. >> thank you so much. good to see you as always
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the roll doesn't disappear and that's a good deal. bounty. the long lasting picker upper. welcome back to week ends with alex witt. it is time for your fast five headlines. in chile, a 14-year-old girl with cystic fibrosis wants to be euthanized and is asking that country for help. in accordance with the law, it would not help the girl end her life. she said she is tired of living with the disease that already claimed the life of her brother u.s. customs pulled off the second biggest drug bust ever at the u.s. border. it went down in san diego where 15 tons of marijuana was found in a tractor trailer that was supposed to be hauling mattresses. estimated value, $19 million
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an explosion as an exxon mobil is fueling prices in that state. one station yesterday raised prices 20 cents alone. the los angeles county sheriff believes it has recovered the $150,000 pearl-covered dress lupita nyongo wore. a sheriff's spokesperson said the thief abandoned the dress when they discovered the pearls were fake >> and the two-tone dress sales have soared. they shot up 347% yesterday. it is indeed black and blue. those are your fast five headlines. well his name is known and his face revealed. jihadi john is muhammadohammed emwazi. joining me from scotland yard in london is keir simmons.
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with a good day to you, what's the latest from there? >> reporter: well alex the british prime minister has been forced to defend the security agency over suggestions that it didn't do enough to stop jihadi john as he was known from heading to syria and joining isis. he said the british prime minister has done to stop the attacks. but could more be done for the man who has become known as jihadi john. >> unmasked. his network of extremists uncovered. the prime minister vowed to pursue. >> when there are people anywhere in the world who commit appalling and heinous crimes against british citizens we will do everything we can with the police with the security service, with all that we have at our disposal to find these
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people and put them out of action. >> reporter: mohammed emwazi was a computer student at the university of westminster. at the time it's alleged extremist groups met a campus. >> we have evidence of jihadist videos being showed at the islamic society at the university. >> this is emwazi as a grade schooler in 1998 who wrote on his yearbook he liked the simpsons and playing playstation. his favorite video game duke nukem, time to kill. emwazi's home is just over a mile away from the scene of a dramatic terrorism arrest a decade ago. emwazi was then 18. but the british security agency believes the men who were arrested here of were linked to
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an associate of mohammed emwazi. he spent time in somalia. they were involved in equipment to somalia to under take terrorism activity. it is emerged a former rapper grew up close to emwazi. last year his father pleaded guilty to charges related to al qaeda's bombings of u.s. embassys in africa. they often questioned emwazi but failed to stop him leaving. many are now asking why. >> meanwhile, a former teacher at emwazi's school told the bbc that he underwent anger management therapy, alex whilst he was at high school. but she says that was a success. she said he did not come from a troubled background and that when he left he was expected to be a success. it still leaves the question of how that young man turned into
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the man we saw in the brutal isis videos. >> it sure does. i want to pick up on the last point you made in your report. have they responded at all, keir? >> reporter: well they can't respond. that's the problem. because they are a secret service, if you'd like. although they are now more public than they used to be here in the uk. so in a way their hands are tied. in a way that is unfair. that's why you see others come out. you see the british intelligence service saying look at all the work they have done to protect this country. you see the prime minister saying the same thing. and here's the problem, alex. when the reality is that the people i speak to will tell you that there are a lot of young men usually of concern running around this country. some of them are showing that they are extreme. but the question the security
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officials have to figure out each time is does being extreme mean you're likely to commit a terrorist act or are you just another hot-headed young man. that is a difficult assessment to make in some cases. particularly when you are potentially talking about hundreds of people. and in the end these security agencies have limited resources. >> yeah. absolutely. we make for a good point. keir simmons, thank you for that. an unusual legal case in massachusetts involving the suicide of a teenager last summer. now one of his trends has been charged with involuntary manslaughter accused of encouraging the young man to go through with his suicide even after he told her he was having second thoughts. nbc's ron mott has the story. >> reporter: 18-year-old killed himself in a pickup truck outside this kmart in fair haven, massachusetts, a small coastal town near cape cod.
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it's what they discovered later, that led to involuntary manslaughter against 18-year-old michelle carter, who was indicted in juvenile court as she was 17 at the time of conrad's death. >> ms. carter is alleged to have strongly influenced his decision to take his own, encouraged him to commit suicide, and guided him in his engagement of activities which led to his death. >> reporter: authorities say michelle encouraged conrad to get back in his vehicle and complete the act after he sent a text message after expressing doubts about going through the suicide. >> this is a young woman who really has led a double life. on the one hand strongly encouraging him to kill himself. on the other hand, really seeming to grieve his death. michelle posted condolences, even organized a softball fund fund-raiser in honor of his life.
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all the while police say texting him about finishing his suicide. >> i'm angry but it's just bringing things back again and it's really hard. >> reporter: michelle carter's attorney said he expects the charges to be dismissed, saying they are trying to claim there is manslaughter when they freely admit the boy took his own life. you can't have it both ways. for more on the legal issues surrounding this case let's bring in karen desoto. okay. we don't even have to debate whether or not this is a creepy story. absolutely is. you heard my carter's attorney. basically he did commit suicide. yet she is being charged with involuntary manslaughter. can you have it both ways? >> it is unusual. it is difficult to separate the disgust over the ethical and moral issues. we define involuntary man
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shrault slaughter as reckless disregard for human life. it's a gray area. if you look at some of the examples it's dui, russian roulette speeding on the highway and kill somebody during a chicken chase. those are the kind of examples. but this is unusual because you're using words as the vehicle to say that this is involuntary manslaughter. that's why it is so unusual. >> but unusual also because these thousands or so texts between these two, although it wasn't specifically on this day. nonetheless, he apparently is in his car, in the parking lot, he got out of the car. >> yes. >> and allegedly she said no no, no. get back in. finish. >> right. it's like a horrible lifetime movie at this point. what was going through this girl's head. she's talking about mental
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illness for him. but obviously somebody who is encouraging them to no help. but did she have a lawful only tkpaeugz to obligation to talk him down and say stop. >> can you take her actions afterwards. she said i'm so worried. i'm wondering where he is and all that. she may have actually known where he was and then goes on to have these facebook pages and a fund-raiser in which she got $2,300 to help those suffering from mental health. >> that's a key piece of evidence. even afterwards she never said oh, during this period of time i was talking to him and this is what happened. so that kind of guilt or hiding or omitting that information tells you volumes about her mental state at that point. >> that's a whole other discussion. >> yeah. >> but, look you have played both sides here. and you're never going to shy
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away from a controversy. as a prosecutor would this be a very difficult case? >> oh, it's an extremely difficult case. i'm sure they probably struggled. this happened in june or july february for the indictment. i think they probably struggled whether or not to charge her. i think the ethical and moral issues and the fact that you had the text messages during the time of the suicide made the prosecutor say, listen even if we get something, this kind of behavior rises to criminal. let's put it out to the public and let's see. put knit a court of law and see what everybody thinks. but you have to be careful when you start using words as the vehicle for criminal actions. so you know there's a weighing of rights and moral and ethical obligation. and here we are talk building it. >> we will i think further. karen desoto thank you so much. it was a stop gap deal on capitol hill that could put john boehner's job in jeopardy and it's next.
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well inside that building it took congress almost to the deadline. it passed a one-week extension to fund the department of homeland security. funding was due to run out at midnight. the president signed the deal shortly before the cut-off. it was contentious. >> it is outrageous senate democrats are using homeland security funding for blackmail to protect the actions of the president. >> let's bring in reporter for the "washington post". with a good morning to you, phillip. speaker boehner was not happy with this measure. however, from the other side of the aisle, nancy pelosi lauded the deal. let's listen to that. >> i'm very proud of our members, the meeting that we had showed the commitment to full funding within the next seven days. hopefully five. that we will have a bill that takes us to the end of the year.
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>> when you look at it politically, who won? >> there's no question that the democrats won if only because the republicans lost so badly. speaker boehner had been pushing his senate colleagues to try to force them to somewhat get the democrats, which were filibustering this bill which would have stripped president obama's immigration actions. he was pushing hard. but by the end of the day what they tried to do is pass the three-week measure to give more time to rile up the base that he thought would make a difference. but his own conservative flank turned i'm. that bill failed. they put forward this week-long measure. it was fair remarkable by the standards of congress always being a mess. this was a pretty remarkable mess. >> it's a clean bill with just homeland security funding. where does that leave funding for the executive order on immigration if of course you put aside the texas the judge who
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pulled a hold on the order. >> it was basically just saying let's keep it alive for the next week while we debate this. the republicans are still pushing for a dhs funding bill which strips out the immigration actions. all along that has been an uphill climb. this is going to end the way it was always going to end. a clean bill will pass. then the question is simply what happens with the immigration actions to your point. if it is actually the case it is blocked from being moved forward by the judiciary. that is a separate issue than the ending of dhs as well. >> you and i have talked about the tenuous nature about the john boehner's speakership. allies are concerned that his critics inside the republican conference may try to oust him as speaker if as expected he puts a long-term dhs funding bill on the house floor next week. so do you think the speaker holds the gop caucus together? >> i think it's worth wondering
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who might be able to do so. john boehner has been very charitiable to the people on the far right in the fact that he is not simply -- he could very easily put forward a bill right now which is a clean bill and have it pass. that's what was demonstrated last night. he had enough support from democrats to get that done. it's not clear that anyone would be able to do a better job of putting the center right and far right components together. does this put his speakership in jeopardy? i don't really think so. there are people who don't like john boehner as speaker. with cpac this week john boehner receives as many bars as hillary clinton practically. i don't know if there is enough support to get him out of that position because in part who else is going to do it. >> we're going to look ahead to the race for the white house. it is meeting in maryland. it is at the conservative political action conference. former secretary of state hillary clinton. let's take a listen. >> we could have had hillary here.
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but we couldn't find a foreign nation to foot the bill. hillary clinton embodies the corruption of washington. >> she tweets about women's rights in this country and takes money from governments that deny women the most basic human rights. >> do you think they just decided mrs. clinton is the defacto nominee? >> justifiably. there are somewhat amazingly, there's no other real contender that could step in. elizabeth warren has a strong base of activists who support her said repeatedly she's not going to run. there's no indication she's going to do so. the people running against hillary are not strong candidates, again, to be charitable charitable. everyone assumes it is going to be hillary. the republicans will spend 12 to 14 months continuously hammering
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clinton. certainly there will be in fighting as they try to figure out who the nominees will be. it will be all republican politics all the time which puts hillary at a disadvantage. >> do you want to give a prediction the straw poll? >> rand paul. i am happy to put money on that. >> there you go. thank you very much. we'll see if you're right. the threat of home-grown terrorists in an interview, eric holder reveals how many people the government is keeping an eye on, the answer to that. next. (vo) after 50 years of designing cars for crash survival, subaru has developed our most revolutionary feature yet. a car that can see trouble... ...and stop itself to avoid it. when the insurance institute for highway safety tested front crash prevention nobody beat subaru models with eyesight. not honda. not ford or any other brand. subaru eyesight. an extra set of eyes, every time you drive.
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with his days left in office numbered, this week eric holder sat down with nbc's pete williams to discuss the threat of home-grown terrorism. >> the number of people is small. over the last 18 months or so we have convicted 25 people or so. we probably have hundreds you know, under some kind of surveillance. this is a nation of 320 million,
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315 million people. it's a relatively small number. we have to understand, it only takes one or two people to wreak great amounts of damage. that's why we are as vigilant as we are. as strong as we are in the efforts to monitor these people. >> joining me now is a msnbc analyst. good morning to you, in another interview, holder said that shopping malls in particular need to step up their security. this, of course, comes on the heels of last week's threat to the u.s. malls from al shabaab. these threats that come in which ones worry you most? >> it's the inspired actor. groups like al shabaab. they don't have the reach or the actors active members likely dispatched into the continental united states. you know i had many agents in the joint terrorism task force over the years. i was on the executive kmaets. we looked at all this, just like
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the attorney general is saying. in every city we had people who were sympathetic to these groups, al qaeda, al shabaab, now it's isis. most of them were involved in talk maybe material support and not direct terrorist violence. that's what the attorney general is talking about. you know who is going to attack a public place like a mall. whenever there's a direct threat you have to pay close attention. >> you would also expect you'd have to beef up security. i'm curious what your long term advice would be. when you see places people are gathered, airports train stations, there's a definite security presence there. you don't see that at malls. yet, there are a large number of people who go and cong reigate there. >> right. you're right. we got to live our lives. they'll threaten anyplace where there's a mass gathering. the police are doing things visibly and some things not seen. mall securities beef up their cameras and security presence.
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here's the other thing, what can we do as citizens? we can do a lot of things ourselves. we can also plan like the killer's plan not only terrorists but spree shooters. have a plan. i call it page make your plan three or four of you go to the mall. if you hear the shots, accept the reality. deal with it. it's not fire crackers. you've got to have your own plan. >> i want to play something, the fbi director spoke at the national attorney general's meeting in washington. quickly play this. >> isil in particular is putting out a siren song through their slick propaganda through social media that goes like this. troubled soul come to the caliphate. you will live a life of glory. these are the apocalyptic end times. if you can't come kill somebody where you are. >> i need a quick answer as to how you counter that message. >> it's a cult.
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it's death cult recruitment. you have to counter it by saying it's a lie. you have to show it's false, that there's no paradise at the caliphate caliphate. it will be prison or death. that's how you have to do it. >> thanks so much. that's a wrap at this hour. i'll be back at noon today with another edition of the show. right now stay tuned to up with steve kornacki. good job! still running in the morning? yeah. getting your vegetables every day? when i can. [ bop ] [ male announcer ] could've had a v8. two full servings of vegetables
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did john boehner agree to cave? all right. good morning. it is the final day of february the federal government is still completely open this morning because a shutdown of the department of homeland security was averted late last night. just 120 minutes before funding was going to run out and workers were going to be told to start staying home. but it deal that was reached last night is temporary and fragile. it was another down to the wire vote on capitol hill. this one, to provide just a one