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cycle." the u.s. and israel are practically family dysfunctional family. it's monday march 2nd and this is now. >> this is high drama in washington. >> prime minister benjamin netanyahu just finishing addressing apac. >> my speech is not intended to show any disrespect to president obama or the esteemed office that he holds. >> this is no doubt this is highly political. >> the negotiations that we and our partners have entered into with iran have generated reasonable debate. >> israel and the united states agree that iran should not have nuclear weapons.
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we disagree on the best way to prevent iran from developing those weapons. >> it is in israel's security interests that we get a diplomatic agreement with iran. >> the relationship is poisonous. >> america and israel are more than friends. we're like a family. >> ahead of his upcoming address to congress tomorrow benjamin netanyahu says he means no disrespect offering a preview of those remarks. netanyahu spoke among a crowd at aipac. >> my speech is not intended to show any disrespect to president obama or the esteemed office that he holds. i have great respect for both. the last thing that i would want is for israel to become a
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partisan issue. israel has always been a bipartisan issue. israel should always remain a bipartisan issue. >> netanyahu said the u.s./israel relationship is stronger than ever and will only get stronger. those talks are ongoing in switzerland today where john kerry visited. >> we are concerned by reports that suggest selective details of the ongoing negotiations will be discussed publicly in the coming days. doing so would make it more difficult to reach the goal that israel and others say they share in order to get a good deal. >> meanwhile the white house deployed a u.s. ambassador to
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address aipac to reaffirm that we have israel's back. >> you may have heard lately of tension in the relationship between the united states and israel. we believe firmly that israel's security and the u.s.-israel relationship transcends politics and always will. >> susan rice will also deliver remarks later this evening. after she said last week that netanyahu's acceptance without consultation of the white house reflected a degree of partisanship. joining me now are my guests. air quotes around the word
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tension, what can and what should susan rice say this evening when she addresses aipac.aipac aipac? >> i think the relationship has two facets to it. the one is the underlying support that united states provides for israel and its security and we do have israel's back in the threats it faces from enemies, but there is a dispute and it can't be denied. it's a matter of policy. it's a matter of world view about whether or not the best way to approach some of these threats that both recognize is through diplomacy or force. the deal they're trying to get a good deal is far better than no deal. >> can they make that argument at this point?
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there is so much fraught analysis of this visit. there was an article that pulls no punches. susan rice has a blind side, both the jewish world's and rwanda's. can they make the case? >> they can and they should. an ad like is pretty reprehensible. there is a core issue here and the core issue is what is good policy. what is good policy for the united states? what is good policy for israel? in israel its there is a heated debate over what netanyahu is doing and what is the best approach in dealing with iran. a lot of people in israel don't want the all or nothing approach that netanyahu wants or
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essentially there's another war in the middle east. here we have a debate between the democrats and the republicans. sometimes between the white house and democrats. in years past i think american policymakers have often been cowarded by the israeli right. if you didn't do exactly what they said, you would look like you're anti-israel. i think obama is trying to show that his vision of security in the middle east is good for israel and good for us, has some risks, but it is better than the other alternative, which is the war. >> there are a lot of democrats that will not be attending the speech tomorrow. do you think it has become a partisan issue? it is now -- politics has been injected into it in a more bold
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fashion than perhaps before. >> republicans have not tired of trying to turn this into a political football in trying to gain some level of partisan advantage. certainly the way in which this speech came together between the ambassador, the prime minister and the speaker of the house, it was around inthe back of president obama. it was two weeks before president netanyahu's election. partisanship has been injected and that's a bad thing. for those of us who care deeply about the u.s.-israel relationship, we hope these kinds of things won't happen again. >> the republican invitation is coming at a unique time for the republican party in congress
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which is facing outward revolt. boldfaced insurrection among the party's own rankin file. does this change national perception at all? is this a smoke screen for what's happening on dhs? >> it was a way to poke a finger in the president's eye politically speaking after he took the executive action on immigration that the republicans didn't like and the party has been in disarray. i think this will be the story for the next couple days. by friday republican disarray on the dhs bill will be back at the top of the headlines, so i think this is going to lead to this long-run notion that what republicans are really about is sticking it to obama rather than having reasonable policy discussions about some rather vexing issues that face us at home and abroad. >> we have a lot of ideas about
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what various factions of congress want to get out of netanyahu's address tomorrow. what does he get in your eyes? >> he's polling a little under 20% of his own population. where he's going to get his votes at home is from the right of him, so he wants to look tough, standing toupup to the president, standing up to democrats. his number one agenda is going to be a partisan agenda back home. he wants to make the case that any deal leaves iran with the capacity to enrich is a bad deal. he'll say this is 1938 all over again. the president is like neville chamber. it hasn't been particularly
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convincing to the democratic side of the aisle, but those will be the point hess he makes. >> thank you for joining me. we are expecting a procedural vote in the senate this evening the beginning of perhaps a full week of -- minor detail keeping the department of homeland security fully operational. with me now is luke russert. luke? >> let me clear my throat. >> that's just my long winded drop the mic intro. what's going to happen? >> good question alex. we're going to move toward on that procedural bill that you were speaking about. we're back to square one of how this in fact moves forward. there is speculation that house democrats could bring up something called a privileged
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resolution and put it on the floor. that is something that is possible to do although now house conservatives are angry about that. the one advantage of that tactic is it gives the gop leadership a way to say we couldn't stop it. overall, john boehner, i have seen him in his weakest moments. there's a realizization that he cannot have a repeat of what happened last friday happen this week. he's going to have to move forward on that yearlong funding of the department of homeland security and then throw something else to republicans to stand up to the president regarding the issue of immigration, whether that is joining a lawsuit or something of that realm. it's difficult to see. when you have "the wall street journal" calling out your
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leadership and you're not able to get to 218 on a plan that you came up with that you were very confident about, it is extremely problematic. this has filled a vacuum of coverage up through the middle of march. they want to get back to focusing on what they feel are better issues for them specifically things like taxes and going after the administration for scandals. every time they worry about the department of homeland security they expose themselves. >> the new american congress looking suspiciously like the old dysfunctional american congress. always good to see you. after the break, backlash over a controversial sketch on "snl." we'll look at the dangers of
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whether the parody of the super bowl ad was appropriate. >> this is satire. it's making fun of these idiot 18-year-olds who are leaving europe to go fight for isis. >> i don't think it's funny. >> it's hard to watch. how insensitive can you get? right now? >> where's the line between too soon or topical? three girls seen here at a bus station who ran away trying to get to syria. 180 americans have been involved in various stages of trying to travel to the region to join the ranks of isis. in the meantime, isis supporters took to social media last night to publicly threaten twitter
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employees for deleting isis-related accounts. joining me now is eric bates and dean obaadala. too soon topical, on point? >> i don't think anything is too soon in political satire. i think it can be an effective tool. in the middle east the comedians there are mocking isis in iraq. talk about a hard comedy room to play. they are going to kill you. i wrote an article in "the daily beast" about it. we're showing people we're opposed to isis. secondly, it's to show they have nothing to do with islam. third, it is a cathartic release for people. we should be seeing more of it in american tv.
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>> one of the snl actors tweeted out proud of this, meaning the sketch freedom to mock is our greatest weapon. you read the full tweet to me before this segment again. >> he tipped his hat to the writers, who refused to be named. >> is freedom to mock one of our greatest weapons? >> absolutely. laughter a great way to take anybody down. you can debate funny, not funny. that's a matter of taste. for me though the real issue is who's the target here. you see something you didn't see before and you get that thee target. i'm not quite sure what the point is here. i might laugh at it, but i don't
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know how deep or insightful it was as political satire. >> part of this seems generational. isis isis isis' recruitment of young people has been difficult for the state department. there's something to be said about getting at those teens and young adults who are targeted. it is poses a line of convincing we haven't yet explored in society. >> comedy will reach people who will not listen to a speech on the recruitment of isis. perhaps they could be someone that isis is trying to recruit. i was at the white house summit on countering violent extremism. there were people there who says isis first weapon is to use social media to reach people and then use peer pressure to get
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them to recruit. it's been picked up in the media a lot of. my fiancee speaks arabic so she was able to translate for me. >> their departure from islamic ideas is flagrant as the departure in the slogan from what it originally said, there is no god but allah to we love cats. >> the dad looks at the guy and says take care of my daughter and the guy from isis says death to america. >> it is a very stupid bad idea. it should have been more pointed and that would have made the object of the skewering that
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much more pronounced. did the "snl" isis sketch go too far? 46% said it went too far. i feel "charlie hebdo" has informed the boundaries of what we think is accept or acceptably provocative. do you think that informs the way we are talking about this at all? >> i don't know how much weight we should place on "the today show" poll. >> to not malign it is a sampling of 13,000 people. >> they sampled people. okay in that case it's fine. it's real. >> i will have to get clarity on the exact format but regardless you have a split that i think most folks would think would be further towards the its gone too
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far. >> i think the problem with the first amendment is it's very contextual. is it something you care about? are they okay with christ in a jar of urine? not so much. it depends on how afraid you are. after 9/11 we saw support for the first amendment go right at the window. at a moment like this when a lot of terror is being drummed up by isis that really affects people's opinions as well. >> let's talk about twitter because that seems to be the next level of absurdity and terror. i guess some part of me thought
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there's a spoof that someone should do. it's outrageous isis would say death to jack dorsey for deleting twitter accounts. >> social media is vitally important to them. i'm not saying for them to discount the story or take it very seriously, but this is a vitally important link to the outside world. >> of course, social media is important but once you start targeting people for deleting isis accounts, who doesn't qualify for the death list? >> it's about submit to isis or die. it's not submit to islam or die. you better do what we want or we're going to threaten to kill you. that's a lifeline for them. the counter narrative we're not doing on the west side is horrible. twitter, social media, facebook,
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we have to be out there blocking them and creating another narrative so young people don't fall for their rancid receipt meat of a sales pitch. >> one would think mark zuckerberg would be next. it means basically isis is at war with everyone everywhere. i just wonder if you cast that wide a net at some point does that undermine your theology or your ideology even among those people who might be willing to give you the benefit of the doubt? >> this is a case where isis is self-contradictory. death to america, death to everything we stand for. here they are hands off my twitter. it is kind of backwards. give me my twitter and keep the coke coming. they're being very selective
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about the parts of their culture that they want to attack and they're going to defend. >> it is a different kind of world that we are talking about. it's good to see you guys. thanks for your time. coming up it is a really big week at the supreme court as justices hear arguments in the case that could pull the plug on obamacare. that's one of the things they're doing. more details coming up next. building aircraft, the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do. ♪ that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. you think you take off all your make-up before bed. but do you really? [ female announcer ] neutrogena® makeup remover erases 99% of your most
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this afternoon los angeles police are investigating a deadly police shooting in a skid row neighborhood of los angeles. the video you're about to see a graphic. the man was shot and killed by officers. the video was shared over 6 million times on facebook before it was taken down just hours ago. according to police, the man who's known locally by the name africa he was a robbery suspect and not carrying a firearm. the l.a. police chief says the evidence points a struggle over one of the officer's guns. >> during the altercation, officers used tasers in an attempt to subdue the man. however the tasers appeared to have little effect and he continued to violently resist. while on the ground the man
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forcibly grabbed one of the officer's holstered pistols resulting in an officer-involved shooting. >> today "the new york times" reports that the justice department is expected to release a, quote, highly critical report accusing the police department in ferguson, missouri of racial bias in traffic stops. michael brown was shot and killed in ferguson nearly six months ago. >> we have a great opportunity coming out of some great conflict and tragedy to really transform how we think about community law enforcement relations so that everybody feels safer and our law enforcement officers feel,
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rather than being embattled, fully supported. we need to seize that opportunity. >> joining me now is eugene o'donnell and staff writer for "slate," bowie. does it seem justified? are there questions in your mind? what else do you want to know? >> you want to know the whole picture. inevitably first conclusions may be off a bit. it's very critical to get the accounts of people at the scene to hear what they have to say, but this is the top of the violence scale in terms of what police officers anticipate. somebody is trying to take a weapon away underscoring there is always deadly force when the police are present. >> one of the things bystanders say in the video is there are a lot of cops.
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there is one guy on the ground. there is obviously some kind of struggle. deadly force in this case could be appropriate in your mind? >> they tried to use a taser. again, what happens is there's a fractured factual issue. you show up there. it's happening in realtime. we know the ending. they don't. there was some conversation about a gun. i don't know where that came from. you have this attack on officers. they're in uniform, so there's no doubt who they are in a difficult area. this is a homeless encampment. i don't know if this guy is associated with that. this would certainly be on the high end of what police would expect as a violent encounter where they would be thinking of a legal potential outcome here. >> one of the other things -- and you can't hear it from the video that we played. if you watch the full video when it was still up the screams, the indignation, the anger of
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what's happening from the folks who are watching this unfold this is a community that is on edge that is eninfuriated and just angry. that's the feeling that you get immediately as you watch the video. how high is the climb here for increasing the sort of amicus between police and communities as the white house is trying to lead the effort? it seems like it has gotten worse since the shooting of michael brown and trayvon martin. >> i think it has because we are just aware. one of the effects of the shooting of michael brown and the killing of trayvon martin is greater public awareness of these kinds of shootings. there are videos. we more frequently see examples of them. at the same time while there are many law enforcement agencies that have done a very good job
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of responding to community concerns, of trying to find ways to work with the community to reduce tensions it is also the case that there are police departments that have not done that at all. those stories go into the media either, so everyone is absorbing a lot of different stories. some of them very upsetting, some of them very angering. when you have something like this happening, in addition to the actual event, it feeds tension. the police department needs to be as forthright and as transparent as possible with their investigation. >> to that end, there's the widespread investigation of increased use of body cameras. i understand the benefits of that. it increases the sort of feeling of indignation. i'm not advocating against the use of them but in terms of mitigating some of these problems we have do you think
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that body cams are the way to go? >> well the root of the problem here is this is a situation where the homeless people and mentally ill people who take over the streets of downtown l.a. that's a whole other issue the police has to get dragged into and the policy stuff should be ironed out. in terms of cameras, the cameras will mostly vindicate the police. it is somewhat intimidating to citizens and could be a discouragement to police officers to be fully involved in issues where they are criticized. they'll give us some insight here. as usual, even at the best we're only getting some part of the story. we need to hear from who was on the scene there and dispatch tapes. >> this forthcoming report
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accusing the ferguson pd of racial bias in traffic stops, something folks have said this has been going on in communities across this country for a long time. james knowles iii is pushing back on this. how come they haven't told us there's something that needs to be changed as they found it? why have they allowed it to continue happening for six months if that's the case? those six months during which the department was getting investigated. is perhaps this initial pushback does that belie perhaps some kind of reform in ferguson, if you had to assess from outside eyes? >> i think it does. i'll say the man may not understand how investigations work. you have to collect proof of something before you can act on it. >> yes. >> but i think it does in part because the issue here -- these
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traffic stops are a key source of revenue. even if you could imagine people being sympathetic in trying to solve the problem, it's also the case they're worried about that revenue. they don't want to lose their revenue to pay for city services. that fact alone will make it difficult to get reform. given the arch pak pa lay goe of municipalities -- >> it's a sign that maybe you guys need to do something different in terms of municipal funding. russians rally in memory of a putin critic who was murdered.
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oh to be a fly on the wall. u.s. secretary of state john kerry met with his russian counterpart today and they have a lot to talk about from the war in the ukraine to the murder of boris nemtsov. we'll talk about dark days in putin's russia coming up next. here's a look at how your stocks stand heading into tomorrow. the dow jumping 156 points. the s&p up by almost 13. and the nasdaq gaining 3 inging 44 points. that's it from cnbc, first in business worldwide. hey, girl. is it crazy that your soccer trophy is talking to you right now? it kinda is. it's as crazy as you not rolling over your old 401k. cue the horns... just harness the confidence it took you to win me and call td ameritrade's rollover consultants. they'll help with the hassle by guiding you through the whole process step by step. and they'll even call your old provider. it's easy. even she
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of boris nemtsov. he wasassassinated just two days before he was expected to lead a protest on the ukraine. a spokesman for putin is calling the murder a provocation. although the area is one of the most secure areas in moscow with over a dozen cameras in the immediate vicinity. it's not clear whether the incident does captured by close circuit cameras. during putin's 15 year rule it is hardly the only one. to be a critic in putin's russia is dangerous. in 2006 a journalist was killed in her apartment building.
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in 2009 a human rights lawyer and a journalist were shot dead as they walked down a street in moscow. months later, a human rights activist and journalist was abducted and later killed. julia, you go through that list of people who have been killed and disappeared, if you will -- this one is different, though. you quote one of the putin -- i think he's a consultant. in this kind of atmosphere everything is possible. there are no longer any limits. that is terrifying. what does he mean by that? >> i think what he means is these people, people -- these were shocking killings but they were ten years ago.
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they were slightly more marginal. boris was one of the potential successors to boris yeltsin. he was still a very bright leading loud voice. the fact that he was killed within steps of the kremlin where there are so many cameras. it's a sign saying we can do whatever we want and there's nothing that can stop us. >> in some of the cases that i mentioned at the end of that intro, perpetrators have been caught. although there's a general sense that the people responsible for these deaths have escaped justice. there is now a movement in the united states congress led by ron johnson and another calling for strong action after the
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murder of boris nemtsov. they're calling for a swift and transparent investigation, further aid to russian activists. but the likelihood of anything transparent going on in putin's russia is very pie in the sky. >> chrysler was charged with a violation back in 2001 when i moved to russia. they charged them with being involved with corruption. russian authorities said this is a legal document only in your country. >> that's amazing. >> the impunity is brazen, although impunity always is by virtue of its definition.
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what is the fifth column? >> what we have heard in the last year since vladimir putin said it himself, he was the first one to issue that message. it is all about signaling. it is the way the society and the security apparatus picks it up. vladimir vladimir putin said there are traitors among us. now what you're seeing a lot of my friends are saying i'm the fifth column. i'm a national traitor and the police used to listen to my
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telephone. people are terrified. >> this has a distressingly chilling effect on anybody who is trying to offer an independent analysis of what's going on. >> the main leader of the opposition, an anti-corruption blogger, when he was given a suspended sentence but his brother was put in jail for three and a half years. then they killed boris nemtsov, who was in effect the number two. >> it is terrifying. it is enough to send chills down spines across the globe. just ahead, a fair deal for seattle public transit riders. that is next on "now." king to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage.
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good evening americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. tonight, putting the brakes on fast track. >> the last thing we need, mr. president, is another nafta. >> we were unanimous that we have to stop fast track. >> we're waiting on a vote. later, what would ronald reagan do? >> i think a lot of people admire what we did in wisconsin. >> i remember my wedding anniversary because it is ronald reagan's birthday. >> the basic right of people to form free trade unions and to strike. >> what would happen if ronald reagan had shown up at this conference with that record? he
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