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♪ welcome, everybody. >> do you believe that? do you believe this hillary stuff? >> there's a couple of things i don't believe but we can start there. how does she serve as secretary of state for how many years and nobody notices her e-mails are not coming from government

address? what is going on? >> i know. then they decide what they're doing to release? oh we've released 55,000 e-mails. >> no, now all of her e-mails have to go public. >> she made the choice. this is staggering. you know this is what happens every time she starts to run, it brings up memories of eight years that people look back and have glossed over a lot of things. but every day in washington, d.c. when the clintons were there there was another example of how they just didn't play by the same rules as everybody else in washington, d.c. and then they lawyered themselves up. >> i don't think we're overstating it. this is kind of -- >> foreign country, they know no boundaries. this is shocking. >> i think it is. i think it's going one step beyond biting the hand that

feeds you. just absolutely giving it the you know what. it's ridiculous. >> richard, you live in this world. a secretary of state ignores federal guidelines and has her own private e-mail conducting business as secretary of state and then says, oh, i'll release these e-mails. >> when you work for the government in the sense you give up the luxury of private e-mail. >> i thought you did. >> unless you're a clinton. >> the question is who it belongs to. edit overlay of the content, anything that went out on an open system, quote, unquote, that was effectively classified because then you run into that added set of problems. not simply who owns the material but the actual content of the material. >> we're going to talk to the reporter who broke this story coming up richard haass obviously is with us. sam stein is with us from capitol hill as well. actually that's where we're going later because we are houring away from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's address to congress this morning. yesterday he addressed apac the

powerful pro israel lobby. at the outset struck a conciliatory tone. >> now, i also bring to you news that you may not have heard. i will be speaking in congress tomorrow. my speech is not intended to show any disrespect to president obama or the esteemed office that he holds. i have great respect for both. the last thing that i would want is for israel to become a partisan issue. and i regret that some people have misper received my visit here this week as doing that. israel has always been a bipartisan issue. israel should always remain a bipartisan issue. >> all right. but from there he made his point plain, showing a map of claims of iran sponsored acts of terror the four most sponsor of state terror. he called it a moral obligation to bring attention to the u.s.' deal with iran highlighting two

allies' key differences. >> israel and united states agree that iran should not have nuclear weapons, but we disagree on the best way to prevent iran from developing those weapons. the united states of america is a large country, one of the largest. israel is a small country, one of the smallest. america lives in one of the world's safest neighborhoods. israel lives in the world's most dangerous neighborhood. american leaders worry about the security of their country. israeli leaders worry about the survival of their country. >> okay. 40 lawmakers have said they're not going to come. democrats as a protest to the way that all happened. richard haass, if benjamin netanyahu wasn't so busy toying with his own election process and american politics what good

could he do with this speech? >> the debate needs to pivot today to whether he ought to be giving the speech to what he actually says. the real question is how absolute a position does he stake out. one centrifuge is one century funlg too many and in which case i think he puts himself outside the debate. the more interesting question, we're willing to accept some capacity but it depends upon the nature of the inspections, all depends upon the duration of the agreement and he gets inside the issues that have a lot of people like me and others troubled. to me what i'm looking for is how pure is he today, how absolute, how how much is he willing to show at least a little bit of willingness to engage the issues. >> by the way, senator elizabeth warren said late yesterday she will not attend the speech. >> good for her. >> the president is not expected to watch much of the speech. >> whatever. >> well. susan rice also defended the push for a nuclear deal with iran at apac.

she said netanyahu's position was not viable for negotiations. rice received a handful of standing ovations for position she actually opposes. >> for the wrong things. >> listen to this. >> we must also understand what will happen if these negotiations collapse. i know some would argue that we should just impose sanctions and walk away but let's remember -- [ applause ] -- let's remember -- my friends, let's remember that sanctions unfortunately have never stopped iran from advancing its program. >> all right. >> certainly got them to the table. >> i thought she did a good job kind of letting them -- let that breathe and then trying to make a point right back as if she was dealing with the audience as

someone she was talking to. >> she had to end up criticizing the principle tool of american foreign policy here which is sanctions. >> got iran in a position where they were ready to negotiate and we took our foot off the gas. richard, the president yesterday also seemed to be backing off the 20-year delay and there was a leak it was going to be ten years and then yesterday the president said well, at least a decade, at least a decade. now we've moved from 20 years to 10 years. i've heard from diplomats and leaders across the middle east for the past week. they say iran not republicans, not democrats, but middle east government leaders and observers say iran is just using john kerry and barack obama in these negotiations and getting everything they want on their terms. because as one diplomat said barack obama is so desperate to get any deal he can. >> well, what's happened in the last couple of weeks is it's possible you just highlighted,

the duration agreement, may emerge as the single most con tro verse shul and potentially indefensible part of this agreement. all along there's been a tradeoff on how much capacity iran has left and how much material and what's the nature of inspections. basically the more they want to keep the more we've got to intrude and monitor. people get that. sanctions relief is part of all that. it's one thing to say this is open ended. what the administration hasn't been able to do and i don't think they can do is say why do we care less after seven years or ten years? why do we basically then go never mind. the nonproliferation treaty is open ended. it's meant to be permanent. we never want iran to get nuclear weapons that close to them so i don't understand why there is a duration to this agreement. >> it's a good question. all right. let's move on. >> hillary clinton back to this headline here used exclusively pry sat e-mail during her time as secretary of state. according to a new report from the "new york times" the paper reports she did not have a

government address, raising questions about the security risk and whether she may have violated federal requirements. the federal records act requires e-mails like hers to be preserved but the paper reports her staff took little action to do so. two months ago aides sifted through the account and decided to hand over 55,000 pages. >> why are they making the decision. >> i don't understand. >> why are they making the decision. it's not their decision to make. >> a clinton spokesman told "the times" secretary clinton complied with the spirit and the letter of the law. >> richard haass, is that true or not? >> well, again, the material when you work for the u.s. government is -- it's theirs. >> whether you send someone on emoji -- >> she did not apply by the spirit of the law, she did not apply by the letter of the law. this is not a close law. willie, this is staggering. >> it is. it doesn't have much of a press sent. i know we're going to talk to mr. schmidt about this. archivists who worked for more than a doz slen years inside

this agency say they've seen no precedent for this. >> state department spokesperson said in part quote, in response to our request, secretary clinton provided the department with e-mails spanning her time at the department. after the state department reviewed those e-mails last month, the state department produced about 300 e-mails responsive to recent requests from the select committee. joining us now from washington to explain how this could be even remotely possible or appropriate "the new york times" reporter who broke the story, michael schmidt. what are we missing here and why did no one notice that she was using a private e-mail account during her time as secretary of state state? is it just that anything hillary clinton or bill clinton does is just accepted as okay of no what they do? >> by the way, that's not a leading question. go ahead. >> it's pretty staggering isn't it? >> well, they had to know that she was using this account because they saw where the e-mails were coming from. they saw her account. >> right.

>> they knew where they were kor spoending with. she did not even have a state department account. there was no hillary clinton state department account. it was only this personal account. >> are you sure? >> no they say. >> i'm serious. >> the state department said there was no state account. john kerry is the first secretary of state in the history of the united states to have a government e-mail account. that is what the state department said. colin powell used personal e-mail. and that is part of the argument that hillary clinton's side made they said well, colin powell did this. it was sort of common practice. we did it. and you know a lot of our e-mails that she was sending were being sent to state department people so we thought they were getting caught in the state department web. >> wait a minute. wait a minute. it's not like she broke protocol. there are other department secretaries who had personal e-mail? >> well, condoleezza rice didn't

do e-mail, according to my reporting. colin powell did. and -- but the rationale that hillary said, well, we didn't have to have a state account because the e-mail she was sending to the state department and those people's accounts were catching me. >> hold on a second. talk about the difference between colin powell and hillary clinton. how is it different between what colin powell did from 2001 to -- there is a difference. 2001 to 2005 and what hillary clinton did in her four years as secretary of state. >> colin powell is not run for president. >> what else? did colin powell release the e-mails? >> no colin powell did not release the e-mails. hillary clinton is the only former secretary of state to go back and give the state department her e-mails. what you have to understand here. it's not like when hillary clinton left office she said here are my erk mail-mails. 22 months after she left office

the state department went to her and said hey, do you have any e-mails from when you were secretary of state on your personal account that could be government records. she came back and said yes. i have 55,000 pages of eks mail-mails. >> i believe i read it in your story this morning. you broke it. the difference was when colin powell was secretary of state there weren't the laws in place because we obviously moved into a new era. and so once we move into an era where most communication was through e-mails, the federal government decided that they needed to have these accounts. is that correct? >> that's true. >> so there is a difference between colin powell and hillary clinton. colin powell was not required by law to do this. hillary clinton was required by law to do this. true or not. >> explicit regulations were in place when hillary clinton was secretary of state that said they had to be retaining her irgs mails on governmenter is er isservers

in on active sense. >> did that happen? >> that was not the case when colin powell was secretary of state, correct? >> i don't believe so. archivists will go back and say there were different regulationing. he probably shouldn't have been doing this whatever. they were more explicit under hillary clinton. >> specifically what is that again? what was she ordered to do according to these regulations. >> they were supposed to be retaining her e-mails on government servers in an active fashion so they could have all of them to -- on their computers. now, the argument that hillary clinton side makes is, well, we were sending -- she was sending a lot of e-mails to the state department so they were being caught. but what they didn't address was the e-mails that she may have sent to other government departments, foreign leaders, friends, other americans. those people didn't have state department e-mail accounts. and the e-mails were not being caught in the state department's web because they were elsewhere. so it doesn't really answer the question. >> there may be some supporters of hillary clinton watching this michael, who say, okay so

we didn't get all of her e-mail e-mails. why are people viewing this as such an offense this morning. >> i think the clintons -- there's been questions about this clintons over the years about their transparency and secrecy and this feeds into narrative. people wonder why it was she didn't even hand over the e-mails until she was asked. it's not like she just left and said, okay, here are the e-mails. here's my account. the other thing is you pointed out earlier is that these are e-mails that she said were related to her time at the state department. we don't know what we don't know were in those e-mails. >> totaleally inappropriate. >> michael schmidt, great reporting. we hope to see you back here. >> thanks. sam tyne you let me bring you back here. this does play into a narrative about the clintons lack of

transparency. she is required by this new regulation that is put into place to save all e-mails. she doesn't do that. she doesn't have a state department account. now she's deciding to release which ones she wants to release. do you suspect that this is -- this story is going to continue until we see all of those e-mails? >> i do expect that the story will go on. i don't know how long it will go on for. colin powell was required to keep records as the bush white house was. but it doesn't matter. if you violate this act, it doesn't matter what party you're from. you're not being transparent. the obama white house was that it claimed to be the most trans part in all of presidencies and it's problematic. for hillary clinton it feeds a narrative. whereas mitt romney's refusal to release his tax records fed the narrative that he was wealthy and hide his money. for hillary clinton, the use of a private e-mail account, she's

secretive and political. there's a real problem if we allow our public officials to determine which communications from them that we get to see. michael's point, the key point that michael made was that the clinton people state, and obama administration will come back and say she sent them to public accounts and caught up in the drag mail. no that's their statement. we need to know if they sent them to private people diplomats. we need to see the e-mail. >> let's take it out of the clinton narrative and let's not go there and pile on. if samantha power it was discovered this or john kerry, we would say that's not how you operate. >> in 2015 it's a terrible breach of public trust. it's a terrible breach of and lack of transparency and it does feed into a narrative. and richard haass, the fact again, that very clear -- you wonder how this happened where she knew. and the obama administration

knew. not everybody in the state department knew there was this requirement and yet for four or five years she didn't use it and the only way this was discovered was a select committee, i guess in the house, investigating benghazi asked for eks mails. and so now they're deciding which e-mails to release and which ones to keep. >> this has got to be a conversation with the i.t. people at the state department. >> what are you doing. >> people doing security. it's impossible, i would think, that g-mail like systems have the same protections as the .gov like systems. the issue is what kind of content went out. i think that could be part of the story. >> somebody needs to be fired. in fact, quite a few people need to be fired. we got to go overseas now where new details are emerging about the man known as jihadi john. according to the bbc mohammed emwazi denies being an extimist in a 2009er sb view with the

cage advocacy group. he k4r5i78sclaims that british spies would be keeping a close eye on him. this is the first film of jihadi john. it purports to show the militant delivering a speech in syria. security analysts say there are similarities between the two men but nbc cannot confirm the man's identity. nbc news foreign correspondent keir simmons is live in london. keir, what else do we know about this video? >> i think the video, as you say, whether that really is him, but the tapes that you described i have heard those for myself and those are a recording of mohammed emwazi who then goes on to be known as jihadi john talking to this campaign grow up here in london. and talking about in this recording his interview by a member of the british security

services. it is stunning because what you are listening to is the voice that then became infamous as jihadi john but you're listening to him before he joins isis. and you're also hearing in his own words recorded him describing himself as outraged at the way that he thinks he is being oversurveyed, too much surveillance is being put on him by the security by the british security forces. take a listen to what he says in this recording. >> he looked at me and said i still believe that you're going to somalia to train. i said after what i just told you after i told you what is happening is extremism and you're still suggesting that i'm an extremist. cannot put words into my mouth, no, you're doing this this this. we're going to keep a close eye on your mohammed. we're going to keep a close outeye on you. >> what i am reporting, mika and joe, is that while he is talking

there he already has connections to a criminal street gang and even friends of his are connected to a terrorist cell that attempted to carry out a suicide bombing in london. so the question is how far down the road radicalization was he when he was talking there and denying that he held such views and how does he then get to be jihadi john? one of the piece of reporting, by the way, guys that we've established is a couple of his friends with him in syria, one, a high school friend they were both killed and the question there is whether that kind of experience led towards him taking the kind of aggressive and, you know approach that we see in those isis videos. >> nbc's keir simmons, thank you very much. still ahead, lot to talk about here on "morning joe." a third richest man in the world -- >> you like this. >> -- is calling elizabeth

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here. strip club -- exactly. >> what is this? i don't know. >> i'll have to read in on that and get back to you. >> strip club jab, war over champagne. >> are we ready to sit down and focus? >> yeah. >> thank you. >> let's start with the morning papers. 26 past the hour. "the washington post," new report suggests national air traffic control systems are vulnerable to attacks from hackers who could potentially make changes in flight, to planes in night. while the government accountability office acknowledged the faa has taken steps to protect its systems, additional improvements are needed in the report that gao -- the gao recommended 14 changes which the faa says it will implement to protect its computers from potential threats. >> from the associated press. google confirmed monday it plans to launch a mobile data network. the new network is attempting to

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warren buffett who was recently listed as the third richest person on earth is taking exception with how senator elizabeth warren approaches economic issues. here's what the billionaire investor said yesterday on cnbc. >> what do you make of elizabeth warren and especially her views of wall street? >> well, i think that she would do better if she was less angry and demonized less. i believe in hate the sin, love the sinners. their styles are not 100% my style. i do think it's a mistake to get

angry with your -- with people that disagree with you. >> yeah. what do you think, mika? >> i think that's sexist. i think it's-- i think her message is angry was the middle class is angry. she's tapping into something they feel and extremely nice when she was talking to people about this as well. >> sexist? >> the third richest man in the world and men can sit there and say don't be angry to women and, quite frankly, they're allowed to be as angry and they want and slam table it is they need to to it get their point across effectively. elizabeth warren whenever she gets a little bit upset and talks about how people in america at this -- in this day and age when we've already seen the effects of too big to fail they're not getting a fair shot and she gets heated about it and passionate about it and every time happens she gets a standing ovation. so i i thinkthink warren buffett is

the only person with a problem with her anger. men are allowed to be angry and it's considered strong. >> you attack me for being angry. >> no i don't. i attack you sometimes for interrupting and being a little bit of a, you know that's a whole different story. >> a bit of a what? >> you can be a little hand fisted sometimes. but you mean well. >> give him the whole jnold jon stewart move. >> from must read op-eds in washington columnist and editor of the "washington post," eugene robinson. eugene, so great to have you here. let's talk about hillary. what do you think about this "new york times" story about hillary clinton question thedeciding to ignore federal law? >> that's a good story. >> wow. >> that's going to be the narrative for the next little while. >> does it concern you? >> well, look it's news. so you know. >> but does it concern you

secretary of state ignoring federal law and deciding she's going to keep her own private eks mail? >> if that's what the law says and that's what she did and then if when asked or at the end of her term or whatever she only turns over the e-mails that she says are pertinent without anyone else having a chance to decide that all that sounds like it needs a little more looking into. that's going to be -- the narrative on hillary clinton at this point has been inevitability, inevitability, inevitability, which is boring. now there's a story here that everybody is going to pursue. >> all right, gene your piece today in the "washington post" which i'm told is a love letter to john boehner. >> so sweet. >> it's called -- >> the boehner kiss by. love that. >> we need split screen. >> that was different. boehner's was kind of you know. >> creepier. gene writes what he calls boehner's pointless leadership.

house spoker john boehner needs to decide whether he wants to be remembered as an effective leader or a befuddled hack. so far i'm afraid it's the latter. boehner's performance last week was aer isry of comic prattfalls culminating friday in a stinging rebuke from the house republicans he leads. by any standard the whole situation is beyond ridiculous. the government of the world's leading military and economic power cannot be funded on a week-to-week basis. there's no earthly excuse for this sorry spectacle and no one to blame but boehner. there were people, gene as you know talking the other day after we couldn't get a real vote on extending dhs funding, asking whether he should keep his job. >> uh-huh yeah. well look if you or i were john boehner we would be asking if we wanted to keep that job, right, because you do have to deal with a fractious majority. he's not the first speaker of the house to have to deal with rebellious members who want to do something other than what

needs to be done. and among others nancy pelosi had to deal with that same thing on the iraq war and she managed to find a way to get a congress who didn't want to do it to approve funding for the iraq war and everybody came out a little bruised and a little unhappy but everyone went on. so, you know sit down with nancy. she'll explain it speaker boehner. >> richard? >> gene do you think this is a one off? for example, does this mean it might not be impossible to pass a trade bill, because you're going to need 3/4 of the republican support and only going to get a quarter democratic support at most. does this say the pacific trade deal and get a trade promotion authority which could be critical, this is in trouble? >> that's a very good question. it's a very good question. i mean you know we have to get back i think, to the principle that if you've got the votes there, that you can put together some kind of way in the house to

get something through, then you can use the votes. and it doesn't have to be thought of as suicidal to do that. otherwise otherwise, i don't know how you get a trade through. i don't know how you get -- how do we get -- next year's a aappropriate's package through. his state is among those suing the president over immigration. congressman tom cole of oklahoma joins the discussion next on "morning joe." >> it's going to be a clean dhs funding bill. have you had this discussion?

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years of tradition and go to conference? >> well, i don't think they're going to g it to go to conference. i think the senate democrats have made it clear they're simply not going to do that. >> why not, tom? because that's -- why is harry reid so afraid of actually following 200 years of precedent? >> well, look i think he's trying to bait us into a fight we can't win. and it's a skillful political trap, but it's a disappointment. there's no nothing with the conference. that's how we traditionally work out our dichbss. that's all we've asked for. and frachingly senate democrats haven't been willing to do that. having said that look i think the clean bill is coming back from the senate. probably arrives tomorrow. no later than the next day. it will pass the house. it will go on for and there will be a significant bipartisan majority in favor of funding homeland security. >> is that a problem for john boehner inside a republican congress? >> it shouldn't be. john boehner has fought the good fight every step of the way. it's no mystery. you know the president started this fight by doing something

that both speaker boehner and majority leader mcconnell warned him not to do. and he said it would poison the well and it has. now, along the way, people seem to forget republicans in particular hey, we've picked up a lot of friends in this fight. 26 state attorney generals. they've won the opening round of a legal battle. the president cannot do what he planned to do anyway. there's an injunction out there. that injunction will probably be confirmed this week. so whenoff won, every now and then it's time to pull your chips off the table and walk away from the game. some of our colleagues are having a hard time understanding that. i think the house as a whole does and will. >> sam stein? >> congressman, to piggyback on what you just said. do you have an explicit promise from leadership that they will put a clean dhs funding bill on the floor? >> i have not. i'm just speaking for myself. the process here is pretty obvious. the speaker made it clear he's not going to shut down the

department of homeland security given we're giving back from the senate a clean bill. again, remember that what we tried to achieve, stop the president what we think of is over reach, we've succeeded and we got it in an arena where we can win. we're never going to win in congress. >> broader question which is there are other cliffs so to speak, coming down the horizon. the dock fix, highway trust bill that needs to be funded. we'll have the return of sequestration. is this the pattern that we should expect going forward whereby the two chambers just can't get on the same page we kind of tip toed the line or can we see a more cooperative congress? >> i think there are three things and i think you will see a mixture of them. sometimes you're going to see things like see seen where we cooperate across the line get it to the president's desk and he vetoes it. other times, trade, which i think you will see this quarter, where we cooperate with the president and his own party

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welcome back to "morning joe." top of the hour. richard haass and eugene robinson still with us. joining the conversation president and founder of you're asia group and editor at large for "time" magazine, ian bremer and from washington ari fleischer. and senior foreign affairs correspondent for politico michael crowley. a really good group this hour. where do we begin? >> a lot of people online are talking about our conversation last hour. it's interesting. it seemed that i had to debate the actual journalist that broke this story to ask what the difference -- to ask what the difference was between hillary clinton and past secretary of states. let's read the story, then willie and i have been looking through his own article. >> i want to rehear part of that

interview and make sure we got that right. it seems like we actually had to argue his own story. >> we had to pull facts from him. anyway, very interesting. one of the most fascinating interviews we've had here in a while. >> hillary clinton exclusively used private e-mail during her time as secretary of state. according to a new report from the "new york times." why is this interesting the paper reports she did not have a government address. raising questions about the security risk and whether she may have violated federal requirements. the federal records act requires e-mails like hers be preserve bd you the paper reports her staff took little action to do so. two months ago aides sifted through the account and decided to hand over some 55,000 pages. a clinton spokesman told the "times" secretary clinton complied with the spirit and the letter of the law and a state department spokesperson said in part, quote, in response to our requests, secretary clinton provided the department with

e-mails spanning her time at the department after the state department reviewed those e-mails, last month the state department produced about 300 e-mails responsive to recent requests from the select committee. here is a key portion from "the new york times" piece. this is important. >> this is the part that we were trying to pull out. >> mrs. clinton is not the first government official or the first secretary of state to use personal e-mail account on which to conduct official business. but, her exclusive use of her private e-mail for all of her work appears unusual, mr. barren said. the use of the private e-mail accounts is supposed to be limited to emergencies, experts said, such as when the computer server is not working. quote, i can recall no instance in my time at the national archives when a high-ranking official at an executive branch agency solely used a personal e-mail account for the transaction of government business. mr. baron who has worked at the

agency said, this he's worked at the agency from 2000 to 2013. >> what you're saying clinton sure supporters spend online, on twitter, everybody does it. that's what actually in a strange way the reporter seems -- everybody does it. but then you go back and read his own story and you find willie, that again, this is -- on the front page he quotes somebody saying it is very difficult to conceive of a scenario short of nuclear winter where an agency would be justified in allows its cabinet level head officer to solely use a private e-mail communications channel for the conduct of government business. that's on the front page of this article. short of nuclear winter. then you go to the next page willie, and the article says this is unprecedented. >> michael schmidt who authored the piece says -- writes later, colin powell from 2001 to 200058

as secretary of state did, in fact, use personal e-mail. this difference they say is that hillary clinton used exclusively personal e-mail which means she can control what people saw. the question i would have is once she was asked more recently to turn over these e-mails and she turned over 55,000 pams which is a lot, what didn't she turn over? and why did she and her aides have the power to decide what goes back to the government? >> yeah. she's deciding this now. the only reason this came up in the first place is of course select committee asked for e-mails. so they're deciding on their own which e-mails they're doing to produce? i don't know how the federal government does not require them to release every single e-mail. >> i'm not sure how this happened. >> how did this happen? >> usually you get an e-mail address. >> somebody has to be fired at the state department in i.t. there is no way, if this is unprecedented and somebody is saying it's very difficult to imagine a scenario short of a

nukeclear winter where an agency would allow this to happen? there are a lot of people that screwed up terribly. >> someone will be blamed that isn't hillary in terms of the legality of this. if literally a law was broken then i don't think she's going to be the one that ultimately falls on the sword. the reason this is such a big story because it fits so neatly into the narrative of those who want to go after hillary that she's everythings that planned and calculated and she certainly wanted to have control over -- sgln i've people who don't want to go of hillary shouldn't they be concerned that this woman just decided to ignore federal law and federal regulations? >> they should be. my point is that i think that on the strict legal piece i'm sure that she had some form of legal advice that gave her an out and someone else's scalp is doing to be taken for that. >> richard hastz, you live in this world, how unusual is this? >> what will be interesting today is the briefing at the state department if there is one. obviously you're going to want to know is exactly what were the

regulations, then were they set, when were they changed? what was do you knowcommunicated to various people? we don't know what the law, if you will or the rules once hillary clinton became secretary of state and what was she advised. you're going to want to know that. >> those were the rules. the question is why wasn't she issued an e-mail account on the proper server and told to use it? let's go around. we've got michael crowley, we've got gene i believe, and ari fleischer, let's start with you. what questions does this raise? >> i think the obvious question is how is this allowed to happen in the first mace. one thing for person to have two e-mail accounts one business and one personal. most do have a personal one. everybody had to have a government account. the fact you didn't have one at all, it does strike me as very odd. the question is did secretary clinton request to do it that way? these things don't just happen by accident. >> if she's -- if the national

archivist, whether she requested it or not, if we have a quote this is the first time that there's no precedent of this michael crowley, it seems to me that it's not her decision to make is it? >> no and that's the problem here because it seems like the clintons are always kind of creating their own rules or carve-outs to the rules that creates some kind of gray area where they can barely get away with it. i want to stipulate joe, i sort of hate the way we require everybody in government to put their e-mails in the public record for perpetuity. we all say things in the heat of the moment that don't look good in retrospect. the laws are what they are and the rules are what they are. one is that, you know another angle here is that we all kind of -- i think a lot of people roll our eyes at this benghazi investigation like enough already, we're flogging a horse

that is not only dead but buried. look, we're finding secret private e-mail account and what's in it. that's terrible news for her. also, i noticed that jeb bush scored a nice little victory against clinton in this because he released so many of the e-mails that he wrote when he was governor. some were pretty revealing of what was happening in her head. >> something doesn't make sense about this story. the clintons are, you know they're pretty smart. why would she put herself in this position? >> you say the clintons are very smart. >> they are. >> gene, you know, i made a rule when i left congress, people want to debate about bill clinton, want to debate about -- i say, you know what just like right now i don't debate the lead up to the iraq war. i don't debate impeachment. but stories like this come back up and you just reminded what ifd david geffen said in 2007 that

the clintons are incredibly good liars. it sounds harsh but i can tell you i sat in congress day in and day out and i thought the biggest tragedy of monica lewinsky was that it actually koved up all the other things that they had been lying to congress lying to the american people about the transfer of military technology to china. every single day they would spripg spring another lawyer up who knew he wasn't telling the truth, the clintons knew he wasn't telling the truth. after a while you just sat there and said this is you know what, who was it who wrote the book "no one left to lie to"? christopher hitchens. you just sit there and you're like my god. and we see it again now with hillary with raising foreign money when they don't have to raise foreign money. they can get enough money. and getting $250,000 for speeches? when they're already worth over $100 million.

there are no guardrails on these people. and when stories like this comes up it's like a flashback to the 1990s. it's like -- >> okay. >> no. >> all right. i think we get it. >> ladies and gentlemen, you have the potential political impact or one potential political impact of this story. in these revelations. and, you knowing ingyou, know, i think the issue is not when was the regulation written. that will be adjudicated and if a law is broken i also share the opinion that it's probably not goning to hillary clinton that gets snared in it. she will probably find some way not to. but the question of transparency and that larger question of candor is going to be raised. and the specific question what's in those 55,000 or however many pages of e-mails not all of which are certain

nent to the select committee, not all of which are particularly interesting, unless you want to read her draft remarks on chad's national day, you know what was she drafting to say all that on that occasion. >> at the same time, when you have the chinese, richard haass, and you have the russians going after the top banking institutions in america and figuring out how to hack into some of the most -- sony pictures. we really want a secretary of state going, you know what because i want to be able to disclose what i want to disclose, i think i'm going to just use my g-mail account. it's a threat to national security. >> again, people find that there's classified stuff in this i think it changes the nature of -- >> clearly there's always shul use stuff because it's -- unless it's simply about pick up the laundry or something like that. >> no no stop.

>> when it is classified or not is different. that's a different threshold. >> hillary's inevitability means she clearly doesn't need to play by the same rules as all the other candidates politically. the only question is how big that gap is and is this issue going to actually bridge it. i suspect the answer is no because our attention span is too limited. unless we actually are able to find that there are true smoking guns that somehow now get cut out and weren't deleted. >> fascinating thing, michael, this came up because of an investigation that everybody seems to have utter the contempt for they asked for hillary's e-mails. seemed like a simple request. nobody in washington, d.c. knew until this investigation that the secretary of state in the words of this archivist did something that he can't remember anybody ever doing. >> well, joe i anotherest sbring thing here is that someone in washington knew. a lot of people in washington knew because they were e-mailing her at this address and at

system point the folks in the west wick said -- >> it's weird she has a hot mail account. >> or aol.com. she is of the aol generation i think. >> ooh. >> who kind of looks at this and, by the way, who else was using private accounts. >> i wouldn't even say that. >> two other issues that are going to happen today. one is people are going to ask the state department former chief of staff and others and hillary's immediate circle do they have personal e-mail accounts. that's coming. the second is every cabinet secretary today is going to be asked do you have personal e-mail accounts. the typal point is the republican often is critical of the "new york times." kudos to the "new york times" for breaking the tough news story, putting it on the fronts page. >> i'm telling you. i think you're absolutely right. i'm just watching a massive onslaught of hatred from what i've been following on twitter as hillary supporters. it's hard. there is a big wall around her of a lot of people who work very

hard to protect her. >> i wonder because they are absolutely brutal mika. i wonder if the "new york times" reporter himself was getting abuse through the night because his interview with us was a strange interview. >> it was -- i think -- we have it but we have another story to get to. i think we have to be careful how we say it but there was something else happening in this interview. and you wonder about that. if you get -- if the fear of retribution or something gets into your head. that's a very strong thing to say but we all were taken aback during this interview. should we do a segment on that and save it or should we do it now? >> we'll move on. >> okay. we're going to -- we'll make that a tease for coming up later but we're going to have a conversation about covering this. right now we're just hours away from israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu's address to congress this morning. yesterday he addressed aipac, the powerful pro israel lobby

and at the outset struck a conciliatory tone but later in the day came condoleezza rice. she had applause lines but it was all at the wrong time. take a look. >> we must also understand what will happen if these negotiations collapse. i know some would argue that we should just impose sanctions and walk away but let's remember -- let's remember -- [ applause ] my friends, let's remember that sanctions unfortunately have never stopped iran from advancing its program. >> just got iran to be so desperate they would actually come to the table and talk about it. >> joining us now from capitol hill republican congressman from

arizona, member of the foreign affairs committee, representative matt salmon. >> are you going to the speech today? >> absolutely joe. wouldn't miss it. >> why is that? >> i think it's a very very important speech. i've always been a big fan of bb dating back to the time you and i got to hear him in a joint sessions speech -- '96? >> why is it important that he's coming now? >> i think that it's important that he's coming now because we're on the cusp of doing a deal with iran and there isn't anybody that's more adversely impacted be i a bad deal than israel. so i think it's a good thing as a strong ally of the united states and somebody that will be very adversely effected by a bad deal that he is able to get up and speak his mind before the american people. i think it's incredibly important. i do not believe that there is any good reason that iran should be able to enrich uranium. there's no good reason. i think that -- >> that's not rally the issue of

the speech. don't you think it would be better if we waited a couple of weeks until after the elections and maybe do it on a more bipartisan approach. you know what's going on here right? we're not going to pretend it's not. >> i think that the timing is the timing and i think -- i'm glad that he's coming. and i'm proud to be going today. >> oh. okay. >> congressman salmon willie geist. you talked about a good deal for israel, a good deal for the united states with iran. what does that look like to you? heard the president talk again yesterday about a, quote, verifiable freeze on development of nuclear material for ten years. does that sound like a good deal to you? >> i think that the deal should say basically zero enrichment of uranium. there's tons of countries that have peaceful nuclear programs that do not enrich uranium. i don't believe they should be enriching uranium. >> matt richard haass, do you have a question? >> congressman, it seems to me zero chance that you can negotiate a deal where iran would have zero uranium.

that horse left p barn. we'recentrifuges, what kind of inspections for what duration. >> richard, let me interrupt you. how has there been such slippage through the years? how do we get to this point where they have all the centrifuge, enrich uranium. george w. bush drew one line after another. barack obama drew the line. iran crossed the lines and now we find b ourselves in this position. why wouldn't we say to them united arab emirates has a nuclear program that they're developing that can't ever be weaponized. what's wrong with that? >> nothing wrong with it in principle but in practice we can't get others to insist on it. >> basically what you're saying -- >> if we're going to have a credible backdrop if with we ever did have to use military force, we can't lose control of the narrative. insisting on zero we'll lose control of the narrative. >> what you're saying is a bad deal is better than no deal and i don't agree with you. >> acceptable deal is better than potentially the alternatives.

the real question is can we negotiate an acceptable deal. >> matt salmon thank you so much. see you in a couple of hours. >> see you in washington. >> ian? >> if americans were the only relevant player here if we were the ones to determine whether they were isolated or not we could demand a very different deal. that is not the case. that's not been the case with russia sanctions or iran sanctions. as consequence we're going to accept things that frankly certainly will be out of the pale for many israelis and one reason netanyahu is going to be here giving a speech in a couple of hours and not acceptable to many colleague on the hill. the fact is working towards that deal which still is frankly from my her expectative less likely than not and also an obama, rice, everyone has been talking it down because they didn't think it's going to happen. if this deal falls apart, do you really believe the continuation of sanctions over the next ten years is going to get you a better outcome? are you not going to see further slippage?

>> michael crowley, what's your take on that? >> i think ian has it right. and you know first of all, the zero enrichment horse has left the barn and i don't think it's worth spending time talking about trying to get them back to zero because that's not going to happen. beyond that it's not the deal that we're going to settle for something less than we wanted. for instance this ten year duration of a deal which will sunset after a decade. initially administration officials were talking about 20 clears sometimes you even heard 30 years. our initial proposal was 20 years. yeah, we are coming down. but that's how compromise works. to some degree people think it looks worse than it is because we naturally set high benchmarks and rowing them in. but it's absolutely true that the sanctions coalition is fragile and, you know if we -- and that if there's no reason to think we're not going to crank up sanctions if a deal fails. that's one thing i don't understand about the desire to have sanctions in legislation

now that wouldn't be triggered unless the deal fell apart. you know we're going to jack up the sanctions if the deal falls apart and iran knows it. >> ari, should netanyahu be speaking today? >> absolutely, he should. this is the last gas of a democracy fear for survival and that's why the prime minister is addressing the congress, institution capable of avoiding this iran deal that's going through. you don't let a convicted armed robber on the path of buying guns. you don't let iran on the path to nuclear weapons. i don't care if that path is one day or ten years. we don't have the means to verify honk iran is from getting it. they have covert programs. they're not cooperating with the united nations nuclear inspectors. iran is hiding what they're doing. we should have learned a lesson from north korea. we entered an agreement with the north korea and as soon as the ink was dry they went behind america's back and developed them. that's the precedent from these rogue states and iran is the worst of the rogue states. >> all right.

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25 past the hour. police officers in los angeles say a homeless man was reaching for a gun during an altercation sunday before they opened fire killing him. the dramatic and violent struggle was captured on cellphone video. the question now is whether the use of force was appropriate. nbc's gubabe gutierrez reports. >> reporter: this morning lap dks investigators are pouring over not just this viral cellphone video but surveillance footage and two body cameras warn by officers as they try to determine whether sunday's deadly shooting on skid row was justified. >> this is an extreme tragedy. we feel great compassion in the

lapd for people who live in conditions of homelessness and often mental illness with no treatment. >> reporter: displaying enhanced still pictures police are stressing the man reached for an officer's weapon. law enforcement sources tell nbc news audio from the body cameras may be more telling than the video from the devices. >> you were standing right here. >> right here. >> reporter: shortly before the shooting dennis says he captured these last images of the man known on the streetsically as africa. overhead sure vial lance video appears to show africa who police considered a robbery suspect talking to officers then entering his tent. that's when police drew their weapons. >> of all the tragedies that have happened here on skid row in my time here this is probably number one both in tragedy and in harming this already difficult environment. >> of all the camera shots i've

seen i don't see the guy reaching for the gun. i hear the lapd saying we have all of these body cameras, the cellphone cameras. but if you listen to the audio, no. no. audio is not going -- might have a cop saying don't reach for your gun but noits not being shown inimages. he shot five times? >> i agree. i'm not understanding what happened here. it's interesting. the audio, they say reveals something different. a lot of different camera angles. it can be very confusing so we do have to give this time. having aid that, even the response to the shooting was like, you could tell people did not get what had happened. that they were absolutely -- >> willie he's surrounded. again -- >> more of them. >> i don't see any images showing him reaching for the gun. >> wait to hear the audio and see what the cameras say. radical on cable news and wait until i have all the facts before i pass judgment on what happened here. >> this is not unprecedented.

>> as we watch the video, which is very helpful ultimately. all right. this is another situation in which we all can sort of make our own conclusions here and see if we figure out what's going on in this interview with "new york times" reporter michael schmidt. we were talking about the revelations in his story on the front page of "the new york times" this morning about hillary clinton using personal e-mail only throughout the entire course of her service as secretary of state. and. even being able to bring back when she was asked to release e-mails she was able to release only the e-mails that she felt like releasing or maybe not. we don't know because it was all in her personal account. and we started to ask him about that, about precedent, and where that stood, whether or not what she was wrong or not. and here's that interview. what do you think is happening? >> condoleezza rice didn't do e-mail according to my reporting. colin powell did.

but the rationale that hillary side said, well, we didn't have to have a state account because the e-mails she was sending were to the state department and those people's accounts were catching me. >> hold on. >> hold a second. talk about the difference between colin powell and hillary clinton. how is it different between what colin powell did from 2001 to -- >> if there's not a difference. >> this is a difference. 2001 to 2005 and what hillary clinton did in her four years as secretary of state. >> colin powell is not run for president. >> what else? did colin powell release the e-mails? >> no, colin powell did not release the e-mails and hillary clinton is the only former secretary of state to going ba and give the state department her e-mails. it's not like when hillary clinton left office she said here are my e-mails. what happened -- what happened was that 22 months after she left office the state department went to her and said hey, do you have any e-mails from when you were secretary of

state on your personal account that could be government records. she came back and said yes, i have 55,000 pages of e-mails. >> so the difference according to i believe i read it in your story this morning, it must have been your story because you broke it. the difference was when colin powell was secretary of state, there weren't the laws in place because we obviously moved into a new era. and so once we -- once we moved into an era where most communication was through e-mails, the federal government decided that they needed to have these accounts. is that correct? >> that's true. >> so there is a difference between colin powell and hillary clinton. colin powell was not required by law to do this. hillary clinton was required by law to do this. true or not? >> there were explicit regulations in place that said they had to retain her e-mails through government servers in an active sense. >> right. >> did that happen? >> that was not the case when colin powell was secretary of

state state, correct? >> i don't believe so. archivists will go back and say there were different regulations, he probably shouldn't have been doing this whatever. they were more explicit under hillary clinton. >> i just -- we were. shakeing our heads here. the lead story, he says hear, he quotes an expert saying it's very difficult to conceive of a sten scenario where an agency would be allowing cabinet head officer solely to use private e-mail communication. and you go back to page 20 and again, this is the same reporter that writes this that says mrs. clinton is not the first government official to use a personal e-mail account but her exclusive use of private account. appears to be unusual, quote. i can recall no instance where a high ranking official solely used a personal e-mail account for transaction of business. you read this article and it is

willie unprecedented, what she has done according to the "new york times" article though i'm not sure exactly what was going on. >> the article says colin powell did use personal e-mail from 2001 to 2005 but in that same piece earlier this archivist says there's no precedent for someone using exclusively e-mail which would imply that colin powell did have a government e-mail address. >> he did. >> wouldn't you be surprised that hillary clinton didn't at least set up one to korcover herself? >> released a statement saying in part quote this like secretaries of state before her, she used her own e-mail account when engaging with any department officials. for government business she e-mailed them on their department accounts. >> what she went to their -- i don't understand. she went to their cubicles and then -- what? >> no she e-mails them -- >> i'm being sarcastic. this is stupid. >> with every expectation --

>> you're insulting us again, clintons. >> -- they would be retained -- i guess sent item or the trash. >> when the department asked former secretaries last year for help ensuring their e-mails were in fact retained we immediately said yes. >> that raises more questions. >> it does raise more questions. >> two things. one is the guy that you just interviewed is clearly not the same person as one that wrote the article. they are different people. i know they're the same person but different people. >> it's the same person. >> i know. >> that's his evil twin brother. we'll be right back. ♪ okay, you ready to go? i gotta go dad! okay! let's go go, go, go... woah! go right, go left, go left stop! now go... (shouting) let's go!! i gotta go! can i go? yup! you can go.

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welcome back to "morning joe." before we get to our next two guests standing by in washington, i am getting an onslaught on my twitterer account that i'm unfair o to hillary clinton. i don't want to hear what she

has to say. i do. i would love to hear what she has to say. and on this e-mail issue, do you think we're missing the story here? do you think it's not a big. story? do you think it should not be on the front page of "the new york times"? >> there's no question it should be on the front page. there are a lot of unknown questions. my biggest one is did she use that private e-mail to send notes to foreign officials where she could not have expected that they would keep it. which is what the clinton response thus far has been. there's no real response yet. they haven't form mate lathed how they want to deal with it. it has to be covered. let's go to washington. we'll talk about issue others now. joining us former senator judd greg. good to have you on board this morning. first of all, evan if i may,

what do you make of the controversy over benjamin netanyahu's address to congress? >> it's unfortunate this has become so politicized. our relationship with israel is more important than that. e we need to hear what the prime minister has to say, but most importantly, focus on what the final agreement is going to be. and make sure that we do everything possible to keep iran from getting a nuclear weapons capability because not only would that be damaging to our security interests and israel's but it's going to set off a chain reaction where the saudis will want nuclear capabilities, egyptians, so let's put this in context and focus on the sub tans rather than just the theater and hopefully after the speech we can do that. >> but is this controversy and is this address and the fighting over it tampering with the

substance o of these very important international issues that really threaten the security of the future of the world. we have benjamin netden ya netanyahu coming here before the election playing dirty politics at home and undermining president obama. what do you think? >> i think the issue is how do you stop iran from getting a nuclear weapon. if you're not willing to listen to your most important ally in the region the whole real democracy in the region, and a nation which has been at our side through numerous crises if you're not willing to listen to the leadership as to why they think it threatens your security, then you're foolish. we have to listen to him. it's his kouncountry at risk and we're supposed to be standing up for them. if they think they are not being treated fairly in these

negotiations, then we need to hear about it. >> ian bremer. >> we heard about the role of congress in foreign policy whether there would be a vote on the use of military force in syria. now there's a question of how much influence congress should be having while negotiations are going on between americans and iranians. i'm wondering, do you believe that congress's role has been inadequate thus far on the iran negotiations? do they need to be more proactive given what they are see seeing out of the white house? >> congress has attempted to play a role through possible additional sanctions, but wisely held back to see what the administration could negotiate, to see what the agreement was going to be. . i do think at the end of the day congress needs to step up and play the role that previous

congresss under democrats and republicans have played in nuclear arms negotiations and pass judgment on the final deal. when we speak with a single voice we are stronger, so i hope the congress will choose to vote up or down on whatever the agreement is. that puts nus a better position going forward. >> it's an important point that we need to wait to see what the deal is. the question is by having netanyahu coming and cherry picking information is going to be provided, it is aligned with that of the united states but it's not completely overlapping. is that the appropriate way for pieces of this it deal to be brought to the american legislation legislature and the american people? >> i'm going to take that one. i would say no. i'm not sure you would agree with me. but these gentlemen are waiting to talk about what you're here to talk about. you're working together on an issue with the economy and the debt. tell us about it. >> mika we both believe strongly that the future of america in part depends on whether we're financially strong. our ability to fund education and health care and other things

we care about will be undermined if, as we predict in two or three years, the national deficit and debt start going up again. when interest rates begin to rise, what we're concerned about is all the additional revenue the country will be bringing in will all go to pay interest on the national debt. that's not good for us and particularly bad for. our children and grandchildren. no generation of americans has passed on this level of debt to future generations. we shouldn't be the first, so that's what we are attempting to do something about. >> what should be done? >> well basically this initiative that we are pursuing along with the coalition is going to ask those folks running for president in this next round to tell us what their first budget will be. just give us some specifics as to how they are going to get the deficit and debt ushd control. as evan points out, we're headed towards a train wreck and the effect is we're going to pass on

to our kids a less prosperous lifestyle if we continue to run up the debt. we're headed towards a bad situation. we'd like to hear from the people running for president what their budgets are going to be. how are they going to address entitlement spending? how are they going to address tax reform? and put it out there. put it forward during their campaign. it's called first budget. we're going to ask folks to put forward their first budget as they campaign on both sides of the aisle. hillary clinton will be the nominee on democratic side. it looks like she's going to run. and all the candidates running on the republican side. >> send her an e-mail and ask for that budget. thank you very much. great to have you on. still ahead, we'll talk to you about what was going on in your head. i'm listening to him telepathically. i think you had some opinions.

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there's a couple things i don't believe but we can start there. how does she serve as secretary of state for all those years and nobody notices that her e-mails are not coming from a government address? hrc@hot mail.com. >>. then they decide what they are going to release. every single e-mail she made the choice. this is staggering. this is what happens every time she starts to run. it brings up memories of eight years that people look back and have glossed over a lot of things. but every day in washington, d.c. there was another example of how they just didn't play by the same rules as everybody else in washington, d.c. and then they lawyered

themselves up. >> i don't think we're overstating it. >> it's taking money from foreign country its, they know no boundaries. this is shocking. >> i think it is. i think it's going one step beyond biting the hand that feeds you. giving it the you know what. it's ridiculous. >> richard you live in this world. how stunning is it that a secretary of state ignores federal guidelines and has her own private e-mail conducting business as secretary of state and then says i'll release these e-mails. >> when you work for the government, you give up the luxury of private e-mail. >> i thought you did. >> unless you're a clinton. >> the question is who it belongs to. there's the content in terms of anything went out on an open system that was effectively classified. then you run into that added set of not owns the material but the actual content of the material.

>> we'll be talking to the reporter who broke this story coming up. sam stein is with us from capitol hill as well. and actually that's where we're going later because we are just hours away from the israeli prime minister's address to congress this morning. yesterday he addressed the powerful pro-israel lobby. at the outset struck a conciliatory tone. >> i also bring to you news that you may not have heard. i'll be speaking in congress tomorrow. my speech is not intended to show any disrespect to president obama or the esteemed office that he holds. i have great respect for both. the last thing that i would want is for israel to become a partisan issue. and i regret that some people have misperceived my visit here this week as doing that. israel has been a bipartisan issue, israel should always

remain a bipartisan issue. >> he showed a map of claims of iran-sponsored acts of terror he called it a moral obligation to bring attention to the deal with iran highlighting two key differences. >> israel and the united states agree that iran should not have nuclear weapons. but we disagree on the best way to prevent iran from developing those weapons. the united states of america is a large country, one of the largest. israel is a small kouncountry, one of the smallest. . america lives in one of the world's safest neighborhoods. israel lives in the world's most dangerous neighborhood. american leaders worry about the security of their country. israeli leaders worry about the

survival of their country. lz plz. >> 40 lawmakers have said they are not going to come. democrats as a protest to the way this all happened. richard haas, if benjamin netanyahu wasn't so busy toying what good could he do with this speech? >> the debate needs to pivot to whether he ought to be give. ing the speech to really the substance. and how much of a position does he stake out? one centrifuge is one too many. he will countenance nothing. he puts himself outside the debate. the more interesting question is is he prepared to say we're willing to accept some capacity buzz it depends upon the nature of the inspections and the duration of the agreement. he really gets inside of the issues to have a lot of people troubled. to me what i'm looking for is

how pure is he today. how absolute or how much is he willing to show willingness to engage the issues. >> senator elizabeth warren said late yesterday she will not attend the speech. josh ernest said the president is not expected to watch much of the speech. susan rice defended the push for a deal. benjamin netanyahu's position was not viable for negotiations. rice received a handful of stand og vagss for positions she actually opposes. >> for the wrong things. >> listen to this. >> we must also understand what will happen if these negotiations collapse. i know some would argue we should just impose sanctions and walk away but let's remember -- let's remember -- my friends,

let's remember that sanctions unfortunately have never stopped iran from advancing its program. >> it certainly got them to the table. >> i thought she did a good job kind of letting that breathe and then trying to make a point right back as if she was dealing with the audience as someone she was talking to. >> she had to end up criticizing the foreign policy which is sanctions. >> which actually got iran in position where they were ready to negotiate and we took our foot off the gas. richard, the president yesterday also seemed to be backing off the 20-year delay and there's a leak that it was going to be ten years and the president said at least a decade. so now we have moved from 20 years to 10 years and i have heard this from diplomats and leaders across the middle east for the past week. they say iran not republicans, not democrats, but middle east

government leaders and observers say iran is just using john kerry and barack obama and getting everything they want on their terms because as one diplomat said barack obama is so desperate to get any deal he can can. >> i have to say what's happened the last couple weeks is it's possible the issue he's highlighted which is the duration agreement may emerge as the single most controversial part of this agreement. all along there's been a trade off on how much capacity iran has left and how much centrifuges and material. basically the more they want to keep, the more we have to intrude and monitor. people get that. sanctions relief is part of all that. but it's one thing to say this is open-ended. i don't think they can say why do we care less after ten years? why do we then go never mind. the nonproliferation treaty is

open-ended. we do not want to iran ever to get nuclear weapons, so i don't understand why there is a duration to this agreement. >> it's a good question. hillary clinton, back to this headline here used exclusively private e-mail during her time as secretary of state. according to a new report from "the new york times," the paper reports she did not have a government address raising questions about the security risk and whether she may have violated federal requirements. the federal records act requires e-mails like hers to be preserved, but the paper reports her staff took little action to do so. two months ago aids sifted through the account and decided to hand over some 55,000 pages -- >> why are they making the decision? >> i don't understand. >> why are they making the decision? it's not their decision to make. >> a clinton spokesman told the "new york times" clinton pli complied with the spirit. >> the material when you work

with the government is theirs. >> so she didn't apply by the spirit of the law, she did not apply by the letter of the law. this is not a close call. this is pretty staggering. >> it is and it doesn't have much of a press sent. we're going to talk more about this in a minute but an archivist who worked for a dozen years inside this agency said they have seen no precedent for this. >> a spokesperson said in response to our request, hillary clinton provided the department with e-mails spanning her time at the department after the state department reviewed e-mails last month, the state department produced 300 e-mails responsive to recent requests from the select committee. joining us from washington to explain how this could be remotely possible or appropriate, "the new york times" reporter who broke the story michael schmidt.

anything that hillary clinton does is just accepted as okay no matter what they do? or am i missing something? >> that's not a leading question go ahead and answer. it's pretty staggering. >> they had to know that she was using this account because they saw where the e-mails were coming from. they saw her account. so they knew who they were corresponding with. there was no hillary clinton state department account. it was only this personal account. >> are you sure? i'm serious, there isn't -- >> the state department said that there was no state account. john kerry is the first secretary of state in the history of the united states to have a government e-mail account. that is what the state department said. colin powell used personal e-mail. that's part of the argument that hillary clinton's side made. they said colin powell did this

it was common practice. we did it. a lot of our e-mails that she was sending were being sent to state department people. so we thought they were getting caught in the state department web. >> wait a minute. it's not like she broke protocol. there are other department secretaries who had personal e-mail? >> condoleeza rice didn't do e-mail, according to my reporting. colin powell did, but the rational that hillary's side said, well, we didn't have to have a state account because the e-mail she was sending were to the state department and those people's accounts were catching it. >> hold on a second. talk about the difference between colin powell and hillary clinton. how is it different between what colin powell did from 2001 to 2005 and what hillary clinton did in her four years as secretary of state. >> colin powell is not running for president. >> what else?

did colin powell release the e-mails? >> no, colin powell didn't release e-mails and hillary clinton is the only former secretary of state to actually go back and give the state department her e-mails. it's not like when hillary clinton left office she said here are my e-mails. what happened was that 22 months after she left office, the state department went to her and said, hey, do you have any e-mails from when you were secretary of state on your personal account that could be government records. she came back and said yes, i have 55,000 pages of e-mails. >> so the difference i believe i read it in your story this morning because you broke it the difference was when colin powell was secretary of state there weren't the laws in place because we obviously had moved into a new era. so once we moved into an era where most communication was through e-mails, the federal government decided that they needed to have these accounts. is that correct?

>> that's true. >> so there is a difference between colin powell and hillary clinton. colin powell was not required by law to do this. hillary clinton was required by law to do this. true or not? >> there were explicit regulations when hillary clinton was secretary of state that said they had had to be retaining her e-mails on government servers sort in an active sense. >> that was not the case when colin powell was secretary of state. >> i don't believe so. some archivists will say there were different regulations that he shouldn't have been doing this. they were more explicit under hillary clinton. >> what was she ordered to do according to these regulations? >> they were supposed to be retaining her e-mails on government servers so they could have all of them on their computers. the argument that hillary clinton's side makes was she was sending a lot of e-mails to the

state department. but what they didn't address was e-mails she may have sent to other government departments, the white house, foreign leaders, friends, other americans, those people didn't have state department e-mail accounts and the e-mails weren't being caught in the web because they were elsewhere. it doesn't really answer the question. >> there may be some supporters of hillary clinton watching this who say, okay so we didn't get all her e-mails. why is this so important? why are people viewing this as such an offense this morning? >> there's been questions about the clintons from critics over the years about their transparency and secrecy and that feeds into that narrative. people wonder why it was that she didn't even hand over the e-mails until she was asked. it's not like she just left and said, okay here are the e-mails, here's my account. and the other thing as you pointed out earlier, these are e-mails that she said were related to her time at the state department. it's not like she said here are all the e-mails, take what you

would like. these are the 55,000 pages of e-mails related to work. we don't know what were in those e-mails e-mails. >> that's totally inappropriate. >> thank you so much. greatly appreciated. great reporting. we hope to see you back here. sam stein, let me bring you back here. this plays into a narrative about the clintons and a welcome of transparency. she's required by a new regulation to save all e-mails. she doesn't do that. she doesn't have a state department account and now she's deciding to release which ones she wants to release. do you suspect that this story is going to continue until we see all of thoefz e-mails? >> i do expect the story will go on. i don't know how long for. colin powell was required to keep some records, as the bush white house was, but it doesn't matter. if you violate this act, it doesn't matter what party you're from. the problem for both the obama white house here is that it

claimed to be the most transparent in the history of all transparencies and that's problematic. and for hillary clinton it it feeds a narrative. where mitt romney's refusal to release tax records fed the narrative he was wealthy. with hillary clinton the private e-mail account is that she's secret and political. there's a real problem in terms of transparency in government if we allow public officials to determine which communications that we get to see. the key point that michael made was that the clinton people state and the obama administration will come back and say, well she sent them to public accounts and therefore will be caught up in the dragnet. we need to know if she sent them to private people or diplomats or people outside the government and need to see the e-mails. >> let's take it out of the clinton narrative. let's not go there and pile on. if samantha power did this or john kerry, we would say that's

not how you operate. >> it's a terrible breach of public trust. and a lack of transparency and does feed into a narrative. you wonder how this happened where she knew and the obama administration knew. everybody in the state department knew that there was this requirement. yet for four or five years she didn't use it and the only way it was discovered is a select committee in the house investigating benghazi asked for e-mails and so now they are deciding which e-mails to release and which ones to keep. >> it has to be a conversation with the i.t. people and the people doing security. it's impossible i would think, that gmail systems have the same protections as the government systems. so the issue is what sort of content went out on these

things? that could be part of the story. >> still ahead on "morning joe," valerie jarrett gives us the rebuttal to benjamin netanyahu's address. plus live from beijing, it's saturday night. the new plans for the legendary comedy show. >> i hear it's actually funnier in mandarin. first, here's bill karins. >> some of the years it just doesn't translate to english audiences. it's like i heard he spoke more passionately in the original spanish. >> do you know what my name is in chinese? >> that's what he got very depressed and read books about swedish land use on vacations. >> from these idiots to bill karins with a check on the forecast. bill? >> no one wants to hear this.

we are watching 134 million people under some sort of winter weather advisory watches, even blizzard warnings this morning. the storm right now the worst of it is moving through areas of illinois and ohio with some freezing rain, treacherous morning commute and moving quickly into west virginia. when this storm is all said and done it's in two pieces. a big one tomorrow. look at the stripe of snow. louisville averages two inches of snow every march. you could have six to eight inches. this is historic snow for areas of kentucky and tennessee and even into new england like new york city with a total of around four to eight inches possible. a winter storm, be prepared from philadelphia, new york city and even southern new england for a quick two inches tonight and a bigger storm thursday morning. then this is it, i hope. things are looking better. more "morning joe" when we come back.

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wall street is coming off another record-breaking day.

the dow and s&p hit new highs and the nasdaq closed above 5,000 for the first time since 2000 and the bubble. we're joined by brian sullivan and finance anchor bianna goldrega. why is this happening? >> it's been 15 years. we're seeing a lot of positive signs in the economy compared to 15 years ago. most of these companies, the amazons, the googles, the apples you have talked about the incredible growth this company and stock has had over an expanded number of years. and going back 15 years ago, we had pet.com, remember these inflated companies that were here one day and gone the next. >> i was at the nast dak when nasdaq and some of the names behind me, most of them don't exist anymore. there's some concern. i'm not going to throw water on it.

inflation adjusted it's 7,000 if we want to do the inflation thing. some concern is apple is too powerful in the nasdaq. that's the one concern. >> so at yahoo! you have been busy. you sat down with a russian activist who is also a close friend who had strong words for president obama about vladimir putin. take a look. >> do you think that putin who has nukes is more of a danger to the western world than iran would be with nukes? >> putin is an ultimate danger for everybody because iran even with the nukes is not a military threat to the united states. iran cannot be a threat for america or western europe. >> what else did he say? >> in gary's mind, putin comes out one of the winners when we're talking about benjamin netanyahu giving the speech here. he's about the eighth activist in anti-putin politician who has

been killed. so we're seeing terrible luck or a repeated pattern and he said we should be arming ukrainians and sanctions aren't just working. >> you can find more of that interview on yahoo!. you have a prediction about russia. >> one of the ones we make i think russia is going to default on its debt. it's close to a failed economic state. oil down, russia down. >> stay with us. valerie jarrett will be here to talk about let girls learn, a new initiative. we'll also play what warren buffett said about elizabeth warren. talking about her being angry. and what former baseball great kurt schilling did to get back at cyber bullies. they were targeting his daughter. it doesn't go well for them. we'll be right back.

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what do you make of elizabeth warren and especially her views of wall street? >> well i think that she would do better if she was less angry and demonize less. there's a lot of candidates where styles aren't my style, but i do think it's a mistake to get. angry with people that disagree with you. >> that was warren buffett and one thing that we apparently disagree on. we're going to get to that in a moment. joining us is my friend cindy levy. i think that was sexist. i think she's tapping into an

american sentiment that appeals to the middle class and what they are not getting from politicians and he's calling her angry. >> yes, there is a pattern of men calling women who speak their minds angry and that can be a sexist thing. that having been said are we going to say no man ever can call a woman angry without being an act of sexism? >> she has to be really angry but i would call her impassioned and that's the problem. >> without get ingting into the meat of whether he's right, he likes to give advice to a lot of different people. >> i have another story for you all. former boston red sox pitcher kurt schilling is putting twitter trolls in their place. schilling's announcement that his daughter will play college softball was met with vulgarity from some of his followers.

instead of ignoring them, schilling publicly singled out some of the worst offenders. >> curt schilling was a legend for pitching through a severe ankle injury leading boston to the world series. but it pales in comparison to his toughness as a father. he sent out a tweet last week congratulating his daughter on being accepted to college and re recruited to play softball at the school. it didn't take long for some twitter followers to have obscenity obscenities prompting him to post a detailed essay on hz blog. tweets with rape, bloody underwear and every other vulgar and defiling word you could likely fathom began to follow. i have to ask, is this even remotely okay in any world at any time? schilling included several of the explicit tweets about his daughter drawing parallels to cases of online harassment that have resulted in suicide. he posted the user names

connected to the tweets note inging he was able to quickly identify the account holders while ameanting a lack of accountability in this social media age. i knew every name and school of every one of them in less than an hour. these aren't thugs, tough guys these aren't kids who had it rough. these are pretty much all white affluent college-attending children and i mean children. adding these boys have yet to understand one of life's most important lessons. in the real world you get held accountable for the things you say. >> parents, this is something that's part of them. so they are going to fight for and defend their children's honor. >> schilling's daughter responded with a tweet of her own writing don't know what i would do without you. i love you so much. >> that is awesome. brian, can you imagine if someone went after your daughter? >> she's 11 years old. she's getting to that phone

time. i'm holding out because people say why do you get your kid a phone? i said for safety. in my mind the phone may be the most dangerous thing they own. >> it's a door to a violent world out there. >> i fear for this as a father. i'm sure fathers with daughters and son, you don't want to deal with this stuff. in our age you had to bully someone to a face. >> it comes down to accountability and responsibility. adults have lost their jobs because of things they have tweeted. parents need to have conversations with their kids. >> i love what curt schilling did. he said call out. >> twitter announced new proposals to try to cut down on this and identify people. >> there's other areas we have problems. cindy is looking at a new study about how much progress women have actually made in the world of chief executives.

you guys found out some really interesting numbers. >> of all the companies, 4% of the ceos were female. that's an incredibly low number. 16% of corporate board members are female. the corporate boards are often in charge of appointing the next ceo or doing that search committee, so that's a direct line there. but here's my favorite tid bit. the number of men on corporate boards named james, john robert or william, those four names alone is greater than the number of all women on all the boards. >> james is becoming a popular name with girls. >> that's wishful thinking. >> we're talking more about that. you have to go train. cindy is running in paris this sunday in a half marathon for women's day. you're amazing. stay with us. we go live to the white house with senior adviser to the president valerie jarrett. we'll be right back.

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welcome back. joining us from the white house is senior adviser to president obama valerie jarrett. good to have you on board this morning. >> thank you good morning to you and everyone onset. >> you have a lot of exciting stuff to announce. first, want to talk about the headlines of the day and the speech this morning at 11:00 on capitol hill. what's the word inside the white house about how this address to

congress came about? >> well as the president said yesterday, the speech has become a bit of a distraction. what's important to keep in mind is the fundamental fact that the united states is israel's stauchest ally. the president is committed to the safety and security of israel. we share a common goal of ensuring that iran does not develop nuclear weapons. we may disagree about the tactics o of how to get there, but the important thing is that that's our goal. that's where we keep our focus. >> it's not going to happen, and i hear that in your voice, but is the attempt to invite him by the republicans and to bring him there despite the concern and right before the election sort of trying to undermine that relationship? >> it can't be undermined because this isn't about one particular leader. this is about the country and our commitment to the country. so the president's not going to let anything undermine his commitment and as long as he is

president of the united states he's going to honor that commitment and work vigilantly to ensure israel's safety and security. >> why won't the president watch the speech? >> well, he's got a full day today and i hope we're going to get to our announcement for today. he and the first lady are so excited about the new initiative that we're going to launch. when you're ready, i'd love to talk about that. >> valerie, this is a cause near and dear to my heart. the education of girls. i'm hoping you can tell us a little bit about what specifically the president hopes to accomplish with the new initiative. >> our new initiative is called "let girls learn." half of those are adolescents. we all know the best way to economic security, the best way to pursue your dreams is if you can have an education. what the president and first lady want to do today is put a spotlight on a whole of government approach to ensuring that all the world's girls have

the opportunity to pursue school and finish school because that is the pathway to success. and so for example the peace corps is going to devote thousands of volunteer who is are going to work around the world with community-based organizations to help ensure the girls stay in school and complete school. and the girl scouts are going to have patches "let girls learn" to make sure american girls are educated about the ways we want tone sure girl. s all over the world have the same opportunities that they have here in the united states. >> congratulations on the initiative. i wanted to ask you about job creation and the jobs of the future and the jobs in demand because those tend to be math and science oriented. what are you doing as far as the programs to get girls more involved in math and science programs and technology in silicon valley? >> yes, it is. it's a very good point to make. what the president has done

since day one through a variety of initiatives under the white house council that i chair is to create incentives for young girls to go into math and science and pursue those careers. it can be everything from encouraging school districts to adopt curriculum that is attractive to them. there are colleges and universityings around the country that are changing their curriculum to make sure it's one that will bring girls in and keep their interest. we also have to make sure when they finish school that they stay in those fields. so in computer science, we know that after three years, women tend to drop out of the field. what can we do to create a work environment that is making sure we have equal pay, making sure we're providing childcare, workplace flexibility. what are the things we have to do to make sure women stay in the workplace. they now comprise half the workforce, but we still are only earning 78 cents on the dollar. there's lots we can do providing role models for women.

we got into stem because she had an internship. now she's a ceo. so there are lots of things we can do. >> that's why you are going to be a featured speaker at o our chicago event. we announced this week the bonus competition. we have five events across the country starting in philadelphia on april 10th. washington and then chicago is our third stop. we're so pleased you'll be with us there to talk about these issues. thank you for coming on this morning. >> there's no place like home, so it's easy to get me to go to chicago to talk about this important issue. thank you for your leadership. >> thank you very much. what did we learn today?

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something on air, you actually have to make it come true. so i have now told msnbc audience i will be running the paris half marryathon to benefit the girl project and now i really have to. >> i want pictures. tell us all about it. >> i learned brian and my mother-in-law live in the same city of princeton, new jersey. >> hi, mom. >> i like you too. >> i learned that it's in kilometers, so it will be shorter. >> what a relief. >> and curt schilling, whatever you think of the sox, is a great dad. good for him. >> that does it for us here on "morning joe." "the rundown" is up next. have a great day, bye. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. on "the rundown," a rare congressional address is stir