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flunkys of the coke brothers and survive. >> as the old saying goes, every snowball journey begins with a single snowflake. that may not be the saying but that is the end of our show today. that is the end of "the cycle." prime minister netanyahu is received with standing ovations from congress but not from the white house. it is tuesday, march 3rd and this is "now." after weeks of political hand wringing on capitol hill prime minister netanyahu has spoken. he spoke before congress for almost an hour this morning. as 50 congressional democrats skipped his address, netanyahu insisted that his unorthodox visit wasn't about american politics or the president. >> i regret that my being here
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is political. it's always been above politics. it must always remain above politics. israel is grateful for the support of america's people and of america's presidents from harry truman to barack obama. [ applause ] we appreciate all that president obama has done for israel. >> that concession, however, was followed by a pretty forceful argument against the american president's current nuclear negotiations with iran. >> to defeat isis and let iran get nuclear weapons would be to win the battle but lose the war. we can't let that happen. but that my friends, is exactly what could happen if the deal
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now being negotiated is accepted by iran. that deal will not prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons. it would all by guarantee it. it doesn't block iran's path to the bomb. it paves iran's path to the bomb. this is a bad deal. it's a very bad deal. we're better off without it. >> speaking from the white house this afternoon, president obama offered a strong defense to prime minister netanyahu's criticisms. >> the alternative that the prime minister offers is no deal in which case iran will immediately begin once again pursuing its nuclear program, accelerate its nuclear program without us having any insight into what they're doing and without constraint. the bottom line is this -- we don't yet have a deal but if we're successful in negotiating, this will be the best deal
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possible to prevent iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon. nothing else comes close. >> but that was not the only news on capitol hill today. just hours after prime minister netanyahu's speech the house passed a clean bill to fund the department of homeland security through september. the final vote was 257-167. all of the 167 no votes came from republicans. the bill now goes to the desk of the president. he is expected to sign it. joining me now is congressman joakim castro. why does it keep taking speaker boehner so long to realize that this is the only playbook that keeps the country running? >> right. you see on a lot of these big votes where the right wing of the republican party, the tea party wing forces a speaker to
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choose between -- basically placating them with what they want or being responsible. fortunately at the end of the day on most issues, the speaker is finally forced to move over to the middle to work with democrats and in this case pass a bipartisan bill to fund the department of homeland security so that's a good thing. i hope that that will be a lesson for everybody in the congress, but most especially for the folks in the republican conference that they shouldn't do that again over the next few years, but somehow i don't think if they're going to take that advice. >> i wonder from inside the halls of congress last friday it felt like there were a lot of rebukes to john boehner's speakership. but that one on friday felt like a stinging rebuke. >> i think that he finally was able to stand up to his right
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wing a bit, it looks like, but he was able to do that with the cooperation of democrats but also because this is one of the worst issues that they could fight about, not funding the department of homeland security. as he mentioned to his conference, to his republican members, imagine if you have a terrorist event or something horrible happens when we're debating all this and holding up funding. that's basically going to sink republicans at that point, but on health care for example, i think that the worst thing that could happen to republicans right now is for the supreme court to essentially rule in their favor on that health care law and take away subsidyies for americans. the republicans right now in congress are completely unprepared to come up with a solution. not only do they not have a solution in mind even if they did have a solution i don't think they could get broad support among their party members to pass something.
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they're really at a kind of paralysis right now, the speaker is, unless they are willing to work with democrats. >> it is paralysis driven by fear of legislating. i have to ask you, congressman -- i don't know there's republican disarray on the issue of legislation, but there was a lot of unity on the right when prime minister netanyahu came to congress. you were not in attendance. did you watch his speech and if you did, did you have reaction to it? i watched his speech. i respectfully declined to attend. i think a head of state should invite a head of state to address the body of congress. i think at the end of the day we have got to realize there are two ways that we can keep iran
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from developing nuclear weapons. the first one is diplomacy and the second one is war. nobody has explicitly said they are advocating going to war with iran. so unless they're making that second statement that they're ready to go to war and they are advocating for it then our other option is to sit down at the table and negotiate. we don't know exactly what the deal going to look like yet, so i have got to disagree with the part where he's just completely saying it's a bad deal. we don't know what the details of the deal are right now because there's nothing finally on the table yet, but i thought it was a strong restatement of his position. >> thank you as always for your time. >> thank you. with me now is columnist and associate editor david ignacius and sam stein. it's not clear what the
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alternative path is. did you hear one? do you see an alternative path? >> he didn't talk about alternatives. the one thing i thought was new and i thought it was a very well crafted speech is when he said if president obama is determined to negotiate this bad deal at least let's make sure that it doesn't have a sunset clause doesn't expire and allow iran the freedom to pursue nuclear weapons again unless iran agrees to stop its aggression in the region stop terrorism, accept israel's right to exist. i thought that was new. the white house is hoping all those things happen over the next ten years during the lifetime of the deal and in effect netanyahu is saying put it in writing. >> sam, there were duelling responses and i think our own
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andrea mitchell tried to get a response. susan rice made some kbhentcomments about the prime minister's trip being destructive. i thought his remarks were very angry and frustrated and offering a sharp rebuttal to the notions that were laid out in the halls of congress today. >> i have to admit i was a little confused at why he did that. if you step back and look at what prime minister netanyahu was doing here the way i look at it is he actually was doing the administration a little bit of a negotiation favor. he described the deal incredibly bad terms. if it turns out the deal is constructed on more favorable
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terms for the united states and for israel, all president obama has to do is say, look we have moved well beyond what b.b. said would be a bad deal. it is, in fact a good deal. i actually thought there was sort of an interesting good cop/bad cop routine going on here. that said the relations between the two heads of state has been pretty bad in recent days weeks, months, everyonen years. >> there is essential a personality clash. he writes it is in american interests to find some way to end iran's exclusive status and it is israel's interest that this not occur. how do you grade the veracity of that assessment? >> i think jim fellows has it
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basically right. the point i'd make about the speech is that after all of the concern, the back and forth, i thought the speech was very smartly put together. he began with the part that you included in your introduction praising president obama trying very hard not to sound like a partisan divisive visitor and made what were very partisan and divisive comments aimed at the president and his negotiating plan. i think it does put obama in a difficult position. i think it makes it harder. i think it raises the bar for obama and secretary of state kerry. >> to that point, sam, netanyahu coming in to thunderous applause an expression of
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concurrence perhaps with what he was saying that the president himself does not get when he goes to congress sometimes. >> the president would love that, yes. >> a lot of people who watched that speech thought what is going on here. the consensus around what he was saying, i think, to david's point, does that complicate things? this was an indictment of obama's foreign policy as much as it was his iran policy. >> i have decades of reporting this and you have nothing, so let's go with me okay? secondly as for the applause lines, you know this was one of these things if you attended the speech you wanted to be seen attending the speech. we had old members of congress coming back here to be seen along the aisles greeting netanyahu walking down. we had prospective presidential candidates.
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you wanted to be there to applaud the speech and you probably agreed with what the prime minister was going to say. it was not an unpredictable speech that he gave so i'm not surprised by the amount of applause that he got. you know he could have said what he had for breakfast that morning and he probably would have gotten a standing applause. that's just the nature of israeli politics at this time. he acknowledged it upfront by saying it was interpreted as a partisan issue. i think house speaker john boehner deserves some of that blame, but that's the hand that was dealt. >> indeed it was. thank you both for your time. after the break, remember the hillary meme that broke the internet? whatever she was texting, it was not on a state department e-mail account and that could be a very big problem. taxpayers are not going to pay for private planes to nfl
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clinton e-mail dot-com. according to the washington post, that's the name of the e-mail domain that hillary registered the day of her first confirmation hearing to become secretary of state. clinton used that personal e-mail account to conduct official business and never had a government address during her state department tenure. how secure is clinton e-mail
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dot-com? the national journal points out it is irresponsible to use a private e-mail account when you are the head of an agency that is going to be targeted by foreign intelligence services. in fact in march of 2013 a hacker hacked into hillary's state department e-mail and posted the contents of her inbox online. clinton's aids took no action to have her personal e-mails preserved until two months ago when the state department launched a new effort to come apply with federal recordkeeping laws. josh ernst offered a tepid defense of the former secretary of state. >> they should use their official e-mail account when they're conducting official government business. on those instances in which official business is conducted on personal e-mail accounts it is important for those records, those personal e-mails, to be forwarded to the agency so they can be properly maintained.
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it is as simple as just forwarding it to your official government account so those e-mails can be properly maintained and preserved. >> joining me now a ed randell and glen thrush. let's talk about the security issue. hillary clinton is e-mailing heads of state over sensitive matters of state and is using an e-mail address that was hacked into once that was not on government servers at a time when cybersecurity is a major priority for the white house and the american government. did she do the wrong thing here? >> i think your premise, alex is not correct. i think your premise is government e-mail is more secure. >> they have people monitoring them. they get hacked into.
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her e-mail account was also hacked into. at least you have a dedicated web team that is trying to deal with the threat. we have no assurances from the clinton campaign that they were doing anything of the sort. >> first of all, understand that john kerry is the first secretary of state, alex, to use exclusively government e-mail. colin powell had a personal e-mail account, never used government accounts. secretary clinton did the same thing. 18 months after she left office all secretary of states were sent a request to produce formal records and e-mails. she complyied and sent back 55 pages of e-mails that she sent out. when she used her personal
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e-mail to do government business, she sent those e-mails to government accounts with the total expectation they would be retained. this is a lot of fury about nothing. >> the government is focused on the recordkeeping and transparency aspect of this. your thoughts on how much of an issue this is for hillary clinton moving forward and her ability to shed the veneer of controversy relating to records? >> i got to say first and foremost, i had a clinton staffer in 2008 tell me that ed randle was their best surrogate. this is much ado about a lot. i think one of the main things that the state department said
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yesterday, i think it was, was that secretary clinton did not use any of the private e-mails for public korcorrespondence or for official correspondence. that's impossible. i can't keep my e-mails apart. while that number 55,000 seems impressive as a raw number how many other tens of thousands of e-mails predated that two-month period? even if this turns out to be less than meets the eye, there is a tremendous number of unanswered questions here. this is going to drag on for months and months and months. this is really going to be a cloud over her announcement in a couple weeks. >> governor what do you think about that in terms of casting a shadow over a possible announcement maybe as early as next month? there are outlets that are revisit
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revisiting clinton scandals of past, once that pertain to this in the shroud of secrecy. it dredges up a chapter in the clinton history that she does not enjoy revisiting. >> i am a great admirer of "politico." we spend too much time talking to ourselves and not the american people. that's number one. number two, if there's any issue in the past that was about transparency here there was complete transparency every time she e-mailed a government official. she did it on their government account. >> but does that count? she's the secretary of state for the united states. >> so colin powell was. >> that seems like government 101. you check in you get the pass you get the e-mail address. >> address that question to colin powell. >> colin powell was secretary of
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state from 2001 to 2005. part of the reason he used e-mail, period was to encourage younger staffers to adopt 21st century technology. >> he didn't use the government e-mail. you're ignoring very salient facts here. >> but you're ignoring the reality of the internet age and e-mail as a form of correspondence correspondence. >> it seemed edward snowden hacked into government e-mail up kazoo. >> that's the official term, up to the kazoo, governor. >> i don't understand the issue here. >> i think the issue is two-fold. >> can anybody cite a case where something happened because secretary clinton didn't use her e-mail? >> that's the issue. we don't know. >> don't you think you would know? >> you do not think this is an
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issue for her if she's running in 2016? >> not with ordinary americans. maybe with you and me and glen because we have to discuss something. >> extraordinary americans. >> we have to discuss something. we can't discuss anything real because the congress won't do anything. >> i would disagree that this is not real. the clinton e-mails -- the christie bridgegate stuff goes back to e-mails. there are a lot of politicians and there are a lot of ways people skirt transparency by not using their government e-mails. >> journalism awards were won for covering fundamentally and nonexistent white water scandal. this particular incident opens up an enormous number of questions. what i think it does ed is it
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raises these questions again about her trustworthiness and her willingness to play by the same rules as other people. going into a campaign in 2016 where she's going to have to prove she's in touch with folks, she plays by the same rules, and understands their predicament, not playing by the rules of this law is a real problem for her. >> she played by the rules of every prior secretary of state did. colin powell didn't do it on his government e-mail. case closed. >> it is worth noting hillary clinton came in and took office of secretary of state in 2009 amid swirling discontent about the bush administration not being transparent over government e-mails. the saga continues.
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thank you both for joining me to talk about nothing or maybe everything. it's good to see you guys. >> we'll see. coming up culminating a scandal worthy of a television drama, daniel petraeus will plead guilty to criminal activity with his mistress. we'll tell you what it was coming up next. ♪ [ piano background music begins ] ♪ when i was on wall street i felt trapped in that i was investing in a health care industry that i didn't believe in. for years i really struggled with this idea that people were making money off my illness and i wanted to do something different
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janelle ross and my other guest. things that the internet agrees upon? what are those things? >> if you think back to when google launched around the year 2000 it was this amazing thing. yahoo had a search method that was based on how often a term appeared on the page. you would enter the term and you would get some page that said it 50 times. google had an algorithm that figured out what you were looking for and it was amazing. i don't know when technology is going to get to this point where artificial intelligence is good enough to figure out in a meaningful way what's true and what's false. but there are a lot of jobs that seem like they couldn't have been automated. you had lawyers who were doing document review that's now
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automated. it's plausible to me that this could work sometime in the future. i just don't know how far in the future. >> everything is up for debate. it would be great if we actually agreed upon the facts. >> they are all tinkering with the algorithm and make it more than popularity. i don't think we're ever going to get to the ultimate arbitor of truth. >> it is important to remember that google itself is not a neutral arbitor of truth. >> people are freaking out at the mere suggestion of this because we have outsourced so much of what we know to google. we're at fault there, right? google is a company. it is not actually the
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knowledge. >> right. moving on to other contentious topics aaron schockschock is now reimbursing taxpayers for a private plane he took to a bear's game last year. if he had just not used $40,000 of taxpayer funds to pay for those pheasant feathers we wouldn't have known about this. >> there are so many ways he has botched all of this. at the bottom of it there is a pattern of relying on donors and the taxpayer that doesn't go well in any district. >> does not go well is someone whose website says i will continue to be a leader to take
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on our unsustainable debt. >> i feel this is a scandal aaron schock has been trying to get trapped in for years. it's not like his lifestyle has been a secret. he's instagraming his zip lining. he was shirtless on the cover of "men's health" or one of those magazines. aaron schock wants you to know how fabulous his life is. >> and you're paying for it. >> and we're paying inging for it. >> he used geotags on instagram posts. this was inevitable. some other very public thing aaron schock did that was expensive would have gotten noticed. >> he's leaning out of the limousine throwing the bread crumbs to the reporter. here's another one. a forthcoming review by the justice department finds a
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pattern of racial bias among ferguson police. he told his son dante to be careful around police. >> a young man of color in america today needs to have that conversation in his family. it's something that everyone knows, and it's not a comment that's disrespectful to the police. we deeply respect our police. we need our police to protect us but it is something that refers to our history and things we still haven't worked out. >> the doj this afternoon found ferguson police continually violated constitutional rights of americans. >> given that finding, but also the reality that i think most every person of color knows what it means to be a person of color living your life moving about in the world, it would be
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utterly irresponsible for a parent to send a child into the world with no knowledge or forewarning of these possibilities. it would be akin to not asking your children to wear a seat belt or use a helmet when they ride a bike. it is asinine. >> this is a safety issue. >> it is so outrageous that pat link, the head of the poa, made this an issue that this man can't tell the truth to his son. even commissioner bratton said this is what i hear from all african-americans. i have never heard someone who didn't do this. is he not supposed to tell his son or tell the truth about what he tells his son? when the president says look i know what it is like to have car doors locked when i pass by -- people don't want to acknowledge the two americas. some people especially and police officers see this as an
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indictment of policing and a certain part of america. >> some police officers do anyway. >> that's definitely true. >> we have seen the overheated reaction from the police unions here in new york backfired on them because what the mayor said was so anodine. i think the mayor was lucky, in a sense, politically there. if his opponents were more measured, he would have been in more trouble over all the discord regarding the policing. >> they brought it up time and again this was the main thing. no policy change. this was the main thing that had them all really pissed off. >> the day i got my learner's permit i got a talk from my father on how to handle stops from police. i don't know anyone who is over the age of 15 who is a person of color in this country who hasn't had a talk. >> there need to be more people
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democrats tell us they understand the world, but then they call climate change not radical islamic terrorism, the greatest threat to national security. >> ladies and gentlemen, we don't need a weather man in chief, chief. we need a commander and chief for this country. >> a new report shows just how myopic that mockery is making an explicit link between climate
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change and war. climate change exacerbated the worst drought ever in modern syria helping to push it over the brink into civil war. it led to crop failures. climate changed pushed up food prices aggravated poverty. while it was not the only factor in a web of complex social and geopolitical pressures, the syrian drought worsened by climate change was a key contributor in the ensuing four years of conflict. conflict that has led to 210,000 being killed. human influences on the climate system are implicated. a drought of the severity and duration of the recent syrian
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drought has become more than twice as likely a consequence of human interference. thank you so much for joining me. the conclusions here are stunning and yet many people have been writing on this including you. how can the connection is not made between global security and climate change? >> we are now beginning to make that connection. there's been a lot of debate in the past about the science of climate change. in the scientific community that debate is over. we know the climate is changing. we know that humans are responsible, and some of the most interesting research now are what are the implications and impacts. some of those impacts are going to be increasingly on things like national security and conflict through exactly the mechanisms that you describe. changes in water availability changes in access to food changes in political and economic situations that
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ultimately contribute, not cause, but influence the kinds of conflicts we see around the world and that's what this paper suggests for syria. >> the pentagon issued a report concluding that climate change poses an immediate risk to national security. in this report they focus specifically on the middle east to being particularly vulnerable to this time of climate change influenced conflict. can you tell us why that region is particularly susceptible? >> the military has understood this risk and had written about this risk for a long time. that's their job. their job is to understand tlets. -- threats. it is extremely water short. it is already political for religious reasons and ideological reasons. it is a volatile place. when you place those on top of
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the economic stresses and political stresses you get a greater risk of conflict. we saw the impacts on hurricane sandy and the california drought. it is beginning to influence extreme events around the world. >> indeed parts of central america, including mexico are also on that list are they not? >> i would be worried about any place where climate change effects economics, water availability and political tensions. it's that combination of the resource issues and the political and ideological problems that we better look at more carefully if we're interested in protecting our security. >> it is a terrifying reality and it is upon us. thank you for your time. >> thank you. coming up next come home. all is forgiven.
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edward snowden is ready to return to the u.s. the news today comes by way of snowden's lawyer in russia. he told reports today, quote, snowden is ready to return to the states but on the condition that he is given a guarantee of a legal and impartial trial. the u.s. wants snowden to return and stand trial for leaking extensive secrets of the nsa's security programs. he is also the subject of a brand new bi brand-new bioptic. perhaps snowden the man will be back in time for the premiere.
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good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. >> this capitol dome helped build our iron dome. >> tonight benjamin netanyahu addresses congress. >> we must stop iran's subrogation of terror. later, it's personal. >> you do not need a law degree to understand how troubling this is. >> hillary clinton is under attack for use of her personal e-mail in the state department. >>she trying