tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC March 4, 2015 1:00am-2:01am PST
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thank you guys. that is "all in" for this evening, but hang tight because hillary clinton will be speaking later. good evening, rachel. we have an eye on that. we think it is in the next few minutes. thanks to you at home for staying with us for the next hour. what we're keeping an eye on is this emily's list 30th anniversary gala. for those who are supporters of emily's list, that is enough that you would want it covered live on cable news. the reason this event will be partially covered live is hillary clinton is expected to speak this hour at that event. and that, at this point, is a rare occasion. this is a rare public speech for
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hillary clinton at all at this point. she is not giving many public speeches even though everybody expect her to be a presidential candidate soon. also, as chris was just mentioning, this will be hillary clinton's first speech since these very pointed questions were raised last night at the "new york times." we do not know if secretary clinton will specifically be addressing that story about the e-mails tonight, but we will keep an eye on her speech and this event depending on when it gets started. we will try to bring it to you live. stay tuned for that. we begin tonight in the middle of the country. we begin in kansas city. kansas city spans two states, right? kansas city, kansas and kansas city, missouri. in a suburb of the kansas side overland park, last april, this
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guy, this neo-nazi, founder of branchs of the klu klux klan. who thought he was probably dieing of something, he went to a jewish community center in this suburb and he opened fired. he killed two people at the jewish community center and one person at a near by retirement moment. yesterday, you can see that same guy there, frazier glenn cross. he did his best to give a hitler salute. police officers that responded testified yesterday in the case
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that frazier glenn cross was praising hitler when taking limb into custody. they asked him in the process of apprehending him, he asked how many jews he succeeded in killing. one officer says he tried to recruit him right then and there at the scene of the murders. tried to recruit him to the white power cause. he asked if the cop was german. he wanted to make a nazi case. he is an ex-con. a known neo-nazi. he is charged now with capital murder, he is facing the death penalty if he is convicted. he also ran for office in the great state of missouri.
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in 2006 and in 2010 he ran for congress and then he ran for u.s. senate on a platform of white power and hating the jews. and, i'm happy to say, nobody voted for him. he got less than 50 votes in both elections combined. he was just a candidate, crank protest campaign. then within four years of his last crank u.s. senate run, he had killed all of those people in kansas city. how many jews did i kill? when missouri republican candidate for governor tom schweich killed himself, it was shocking enough that he had died. he was just reelected in november with more than 70% of the vote. a missouri state auditor is a pretty high profile job in that state.
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it was shocking enough to learn that tom schweich killed himself. a candidate for governor, just reelected. it was strange enough to learn that he died in suicide. then the shock of that was compounded. when two reporters who tom schweich called minutes before taking his life, those reporters went public about what he was talking to them about. what was on his mind. what was troubling him. what he asked to speak to them about before he took his life. on the left side of the screen there is the other top tier republican nominee. on the right side is the newly elected chairman, his name is john hancock. and john hancock was working as a political consultant for katherine hanoway.
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that is what tom schweich was up against. a uphill climb, right? what he called to talk to those reporters about last week minutes before he killed himself is the fact that john hancock had been telling republican donors and republican party activists in missouri that tom schweich was a jew. he was not a jew. his grandfather was. he believed that the republican party of missouri institutionally and in support of his campaign for governor, he believed that the chair of the party was spreading this false rumor that he was jewish as a way of trying to hurt tom schweich's chances of becoming governor.
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as those headlines started to bloom. an anti-semetic whisper campaign, they e-mailed out to members of the party saying yeah, he might have told people that he was jewish. he said i would like to set the record straight. until now i believed he was jewish. it is possible they mentioned tom's faith in passing during one of the many conversations i have each day. there was absolutely nothing malicious about my intent. the chairman later told reporters that if he told people in missouri republican politics that tom schweich was a jew, he just meant it as a description. similar to saying somebody else is catholic.
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when tom schweich killed himself, and the back story of his upset was the spreading of this, and his belief that might affect his ability to win the nomination for governor. when that emerged, the reporter that received that last message, he got a message about seven minutes before tom schweich killed himself. he said he didn't know why he killed himself, but that he was about to go public with his accusation about the whisper campaign about him being secretly jewish. when he told that story he evoked in his first article the recent history of frazier glenn cross. the raging racist who last year killed three people at a jewish community center in kansas city. he was saying look, it's not
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completely nuts to think that it could have a politically salient affect here. so this was already just a stunning and intense story out of missouri and it's republican politics. it was already stunning and super intense before today's funeral for tom schweich which attracted a thousand people, and the man who tom schweich worked for, jack danforth, he delivered the euology today and it scorched the political earth of that state. >> i spoke with tom this past tuesday afternoon and he was indignant. he was upset about a radio
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social and a whisper campaign he said was running against him. he said the commercial made fun of his physical appearance and wondered if he should respond with his own ad. while the commercial hurt his feelings, the biggest complaint was about a whispering campaign that he was jewish. and that took up about 90% of a long phone call. this was more than an expression of personal hurt from the radio ad. this was righteous indignation as what he saw as a terrible wrong. and what he saw was wrong was anti-semtism.
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the only reason for going around saying someone is jewish is to form religious bigotry. someone said there is no difference that someone is a another religion. when is the last time someone whispered in your ear such and such a person is a presbyterian. after learning of tom's death, which has been overwhelming anger that politics could to so hideously wrong. and that the death of tom schweich is the natural
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consequence of what it has become. tom should have been less sensitive or tougher is what some have said. he should have been tougher or been able to take it. well, that is accepting politics in it's present state and that we cannot do. it amounts to blaming the victim and it creates a new normal where politics is only for the tough and callused. former missouri senator jack danforth today speaking in front of the governor of the state, the state's u.s. senators, the rest of the political great and good in the state of missouri. but he was not speaking in front of the chairman of the state's republican party who senator
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danforth basically called out as a antisemitic bigot. john hancock did not show up for the funeral today. remarkable days in that state right now. it seems like there will probably be more news to come. the fallout from this cannot be over yet. 100% real milk just without the lactose. so you can drink all you want... ...with no discomfort? exactly. here, try some... mmm, it is real milk. see? delicious. hoof bump! oh. right here girl, boom! lactaid®. 100% real milk. no discomfort. and for a tasty snack that's 100% real dairy try lactaid® cottage cheese.
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today jeb bush was in las vegas giving a speech. this is what political celebrities and not yet candidates do. they give paid speeches to obscure groups for money. hillary clinton has been doing these as well. she spoke twice in canada. she spoke at events paid for by a canadian bank. what secretary clinton has not been doing a lot of this year,
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even as she has continued a pretty robust schedule of paid speeches, what she has not doing a lot of is campaigning for president. this is one of the very big differences between the republicans and democrats right now. all of the republican 2016 hopefuls have been de facto campaigning for president at events like cpac where they did speeches or gave q and as. they have been appearing at events like steve kings antiimmigration palooza in iowa. they are speaking to all of the richest public donors. making unfortunate foreign policy flubs. they have been everywhere, right? the republican candidates for president, there are a lot of them right now and they are frequently, every day, multiple times a day, fighting it out in public amongst themselves.
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campaigning for president outloud in a way we can all see. on the democratic side not so much. it is really not the same kind of field. right now the democratic field in terms of presidential candidates for 2016, there is this guy campaigning from inside of a handsome shoe box, in a spare room in the gym webb house. and bernie sanders of vermont is being all that is bernie sanders in his own righteous wing of the democratic party. also martin o'malley who says had will not run for mikulski's seat. hillary clinton is polling in the 40 to 50% range, and he is polling at 40 to 50 points less than that. on the republican side, it's
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like the brady bunch squares. lots of candidates fighting it out every day. lots of politicking in public. on the democratic side, it is hillary clinton. who is very capable of getting into a political fight when she wants to. right now there is no one for her to punch. we haven't really seen anything like this before in modern politics so no one really knows what will happen, no one knows how you do this when you have the whole field to yourself and you don't really have primary opponents, how do you campaign for the presidential nomination? well, turns out we're learning the answer to that question is mostly you just don't bother. other than her paid speeches not open to the public or press, she has done a grand total of two public speeches in the entire year of 2015 so far.
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the first was a week ago at a women and tech event in silicon valley. the second one is tonight. which is why we're paying so much attention. why this is a live feed of what is going on at that event. that is gabrielle giffords and her husband mark kelly there. it is notable and news worthy because of the fact that secretary clinton has not been doing political speeches. she has not been doing political events. her giving a speech tonight effectively is the democratic equivalent to all of the public campaigning happening among those candidates on the republican side. right now if hillary clinton is speaking at a public political event in the united states, that is the democratic presidential primary. that is the way democrats are campaigning for the presidency in 2016. that is it. very different from what is going on on the republican side. the other reason this speech tonight is a big deal is in the
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absence of any formidable primary opponents, the way that hillary clinton is being tested as a candidate, it is not by her primary rivals for the nomination, but rather by the press. both the conservative press and the main stream press. and last night on the eve of what you saw there, getting ready for a rare political speech, last night on the eve of this public appearance last night, they broke this potentially difficult story for secretary clinton and her campaign. it has been previously reported that she used a personal e-mail account as secretary of state. a nongovernment account. that has previously been reported. what was not reported is that secretary clinton never had a government e-mail address at all while she served as secretary of
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state. she exclusively only used this personal address. why we care is that decision puts her in control of what is retained and archived and researchable for her time in office instead of that being the purview of the people in public records. she has the choice rather than the folks in public records having control on the e-mails. and honestly, getting real here, there is two real things here besides all of the spin and clinton media hysteria. the first real thing to know here is that, say it with me now, everybody does it. everybody does it. governors and other cabinet officials, lots of other officials use their personal
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e-mails about use this the concern about hillary clinton must release her e-mails, this is what hillary clinton must relace today. transparency matters. honestly just being real, that is freaking ridiculous. everybody does it, right? everybody does what she has done including jeb bush. he bragged when he was florida governor that he received 2.5 million e-mails on his government address. he also said he received another half million e-mails on his private personal jeb bush address while he was governor. so that is three million e-mails from when he was governor. what he is bragging about here in terms of his transparency is that of the three million
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e-mails, he hand picked 250,000 of them to release. so, okay. he is now demanding that she release all of this stuff that he never released himself. so at one level, the real politic here is stupid. it is like hypocritical if hypocritical couldn't be spelled right because we can't think of that many vowels. the level that it is not stupid is the question of the rules and the law. the question of what the rules were, what the law was, at the time that this decision was made about secretary clinton's e-mail addresses and how she would do her business as secretary of state. the question of whether she would, as secretary of state, her personal account, whether they will be preserved officially. there are biting allegations, denials of that of any wrong
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doing from the clinton side of things. as a matter of the law, what applied to her, what exactly it takes to apply to those rules, servers, and who gets the call. at this point i have been spending -- i spent most of the day trying to figure out a clear way to explain it. the clearest thing i can say to you is it is not clear and it needs more attention. that is why this speech is such an important thing. hillary clinton giving a public speech tonight, second time this year. this is effectively her campaign for the presidency, doing it at her own pace, not pressured by anything going on or looking like a democratic presidential primary. these rare speeches that she is given, the second one this year, this one tonight comes a day after the "new york times" landed this blow to the chin. does she address the controversy? does she make fun of jeb bush like i did.
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joining us now is a correspondent for the "washington post." great to see you. >> happy to be here. >> you're at a loud and happy event that is celebrating 30 years of emily's list. the prospect of a hillary clinton presidential nomination a holy grail for this group. i have to believe that means that the room there is hostile if anything about this story about hillary clinton's e-mails at the state department. >> referee: this whole event has a feeling of hillary clinton for president pep rally is the kick off political event of what everyone expects will soon be her political campaign around the edges of it. there are people here talking about a little bit of consternation about this e-mail story and what it says and means about the future of hillary clinton as a candidate. no one really thinks that this
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story has really long legs and will hang around for a long time. a lot will depend on how hillary handles it. she may do so in sort of a joking way tonight, and if she is able to kind of tack it will head on, and talk about what she really was obligated to do, and maybe even turn over some e-mails, the expectation of e-mails is that the whole thing goes away fairly soon. >> one thing that is remarkable here is the contrast between what is happening on the republican side in terms of their primaries, their primary, and the way their candidates are fighting it out in public and hillary clinton out there alone with no real credible contenders for the nomination. angling against her, she gets to set her own pace. she doing very few public engagements. we could see here gearing up for this campaign. have you seen her speak publicly enough or do you know enough of the expectation of the kind of
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speech she will give or make her case publicly? >> this kind of event tonight she is very good at. and i fully anticipate that she will give a good speech. she is surrounded by people who want to hear her talk. that is a pretty good venue. what she is really encountering now is exactly what you identify. the last of a primary. the lack of any kind of -- sort of, you know contest that forces her to really think ahead and to compare herself to any other democrat. anyone else on her side of the fence. it allows her to call all of the shots which if you're a candidate might be where you want to be. it might not necessarily make you a better candidate. i'm hearing that from democrats, they were concerned what if you see the republicans screwing off against one another, and positioning themselves, and
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figuring out how to best present themselves. no one is doing that with and for hillary clinton. she has to do it herself. she gets hit upside the head by a mini scandals like the e-mails. he have be criticized almost no matter what she does. >> a national politics correspondent live at the event that we're expecting her remarks shortly. to her last point, if you think about hillary clinton's political trajectory, she had to invent a new future, a new way of moving through the political ether. every step of the way, right? nobody else has gone from being first lady. no one was the kind of first lady she was, nobody has gone from first lady to senate, and then senate to top tier presidential candidate. going from a top tier
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presidential candidate to the secretary of state in the administration of the guy who beat you, that is also unique. now she is, effectively the inevitable democratic nominee for president. the first female leader. she has something that someone has never even tried or achieved over and over again in her career. i think it is a disadvantage on paper to try and get a nomination without having other contenders, plausible contenders for the throne, but if anyone can make up a history where you get the nomination and you go strong into a general, she is probably the one who could invent it. only if because she has invented every other thing about her political life.
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patterns of politicaling of the entire ferguson pd. we have been hearing that the justice department is close to being done with that review. today they went to ferguson to meet with city officials there. those officials are now saying that the justice department has shared the findings of that review with them. and while we do not yet know all of the details, nbc has learned that the d.o.j. review has found a striking pattern of racial bias that they say routinely vie hates the constitution and federal law. from what we can tell, the justice department's review is democrating. the review is out tomorrow, we will know significantly more when we see it. you know i tried one of those bargain paper towels but the roll just disappeared.
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been the top story in the country tonight. sometimes you just have to write the words down and they jump off the page themselves. general petraeus has agreed to plead guilty and faces prison time. it carries a maximum sentence of a year in prison. after his time running the war in iraq, while the top commander in afghanistan, he maintained what prosecutors had eight binders of classified notes.
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the identities of covert officers, war strategy, intelligence capabilities, and his personal discussions with president obama and the national security council. the investigation in those black books is very highly classified investigation which he had access to as top general in investigation, but general petraeus ultimately handed that information over to his biographer who i should say was also snooping. after leaving the military in 2011 he became director at the cia and carried on an extramarital affair with the woman writing a book about him. the biographer in 2011 asked if she could see what was in the black books.
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he initially said no saying they contained highly classified information and then he gave them to her quoting from the federal court filing on or ought august 27th, he sent an e-mail to his biographer agreeing to provide the black books to the biographer. then he delivered them to a private resident in washington dc where his biographer was staying. they contained really classified information including the names of covert agents and code words. he let her keep them for four days from august 28th to september 1st. what he agreed to plead guilty to is unauthorized removal and retention of classified material. they will recommend two years probation for him and a $40,000 fine and no time in prison. the judge does not have to follow that recommendation but that's what the prosecutors are
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asking for in this plea deal. the "new york times" says it is the completion of a, quo, spectacular fall for david petraeus. he was thought of as a potential presidential candidate from either party. now he is facing the prospect of federal prison time. joining us now is michael schmidt who has been covering this story for months, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you for having me. >> is it possible that paula broadwell. the biographer, that she is potentially in legal jeopardy for having received this information improperly? >> i don't know that is a good question. was she a journalist in this fashion, and would that prosecute a journalist, i don't think eric holder would want to go out on that note, but i think she was cooperating and they said look, we're not going to prosecute but we need to you cooperate. >> in terms of what general
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petraeus did, is this the sort of thing that frankly other cia directors and other top national security officers have been caught for in the past, the sense that they mishandled classified information, but wasn't a real risk of serious harm in the moment. or is this something they think this information was potentially dangerous just going as far as he let it get. >> well the documents that no one else saw besides him, or is it something where stuff that we deal with in the media where we get information about a classified program and we write about it and the government says we really jeopardized national security. i think it is probably more sandy berger than that, but at the same time, the things that are described in these documents today are very sensitive.
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and there are critics out there who say man, this justice department really cracked down on a lot of leakers and people for mishandling similar information and a lot of those people are a lot lower level than mr. petraeus facing more time in prison. is it a double standard? that is the question. >> you reported in jan that the fbi and justice department were pushing for felony charges. this is for a misdemeanor, not a felony. do you have any insight on how they arrived at this agreement. >> what we know is that mr. petraeus is represented by williams and connolly. and what would happen is that if this thing went to trial, it was going to be really ugly. it was going to be a lot of motions filed against the government, a really tough fight for them that would play out in public. there would be be some people sympathetic to him in this because he was a general and war hero. i think what happened is the justice department looked at
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this and said well, we can get a conviction here and we can say that we enforce the law and we didn't have a double standard. we held this person to account, and we don't have to go through with a trial. we can get a guaranteed plea here. i think that is why we ended up where we did on this. >> michael schmidt, a very busy man on the "new york times," appreciate your time tonight. >> we have more ahead tonight, stay with us, keeping an eye on the expected live speech from hillary clinton in washington. only her second public speech this year as she mounts an anticipated run for the presidency. al franken is at the podium now. all right.
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this was september 2, 2002. this was september 2, 2002. so it was a year and a day after the 9/11 attacks. >> with no question whatsoever that saddam is seeking and is working and is advancing towards the development of nuclear we -- weapons. no question whatsoever. saddam is hell bent on achieving nuclear capabilities as soon as he can. i believe unfettered inspection
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also not uncover these sites of mass death. >> your statement boils down to one thing, and that is, do we react to another attack on america after hundreds of thousands or millions of lives have been lost, or do we preempt that action? >> spoiler alert, we preempted, we invaded iraq, and none of that turned out to be true. in 2002, when house republicans invaded benjamin netanyahu to testify as an expert witness about iraq, he was a former israeli prime minister at the time. he was just there speaking as a private citizen. they just asked him there to give his expert opinion on why the u.s. had to start a preemptive war against iraq or it would be the end of the world as he explained.
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that was 2002. today, house republicans asked him back to make the case again about the end of the world. this time, though, he sees it coming from iran. >> that deal will not prevent iran from developing nuclear weapons, it would all but guaranty iran gets those weapons, lots of them. iran could have the means to deliver that nuclear arsenal to every part of the united states. the middle east would be crisscrossed by nuclear trip wires. a region where small skirmishing contribute to big wars would turn into a nuclear tenderbox. we'll face a much more dangerous iran. a middle east littered with nuclear bombs, and a countdown to a potential nuclear nightmare. >> so this time, he's in the united states as a serving israeli prime minister. so this time he got to speak at
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the podium alone instead of at the witness table. because prime minister netten -- netanyahu is running for re-election, president obama did not meet with him. but the republicans inviting him to speak for the express purpose of undermining the president's ability to carry out his foreign policy, the sheer spectacle of this pledge of allegiance to a foreign head of state as a means of insulting our own president, that's never happened before. that made today a very big day in terms of washington news and it made today a great day in washington to bury other news about congress. news that any other day would be screaming from its own headlines. but today, look at the tiny ap story that crossed the water just shortly before the netanyahu speech.
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gop says house to vote tuesday on yearlong bill to fund homeland security additions. oh, that hand. republicans said they would force president obama to bend to their will by holding hostage the homeland security department. they would never agree to fund homeland security. president obama would be forced to capitulate. that's been going on for months. that collapsed today. and once again, they had to turn to the democrats to bail them out. republicans are now running attack ads in each other's districts over this. they're threatening to unseat speaker boehner over this. but their own strategy collapsed and democrats had to come rescue john boehner once again. and the homeland security department it turns out is going to be fine, because the republicans in congress really did collapse on this thing they've been raging about for months. but it happened on our once every 13 years what we need it or not netanyahu end of the world speech day.
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so the headlines ran for 30 seconds and got swallowed by this much bigger news cycle. john boehner is having terrible trouble with his own republicans in congress. today was a failure for him in congress, but at least it had great timing and that can never be underestimated in politics. ®. kill up to 99 percent of germs. and prevent plaque, early gum disease and bad breath. sfx: ahhh listerine®. power to your mouth™! flo: hey, big guy. i heard you lost a close one today. look, jamie, maybe we weren't the lowest rate this time. but when you show people their progressive direct rate and our competitors' rates you can't win them all. the important part is, you helped them save. thanks, flo. okay, let's go get you an ice cream cone, champ. with sprinkles? sprinkles are for winners. i understand.
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scheduling note. this is a big one. tomorrow morning, the united states supreme court will hear oral arguments in the case that could dismantle all of health reform in one fell swoop. depending on how the court eventually rules on this case, 6 million americans could lose their health insurance in this case for which the oral arguments are tomorrow. the big case a couple years ago about the health reform law where john roberts surprised everybody by upholding obamacare's constitutionality, the same lawyers will be there tomorrow.
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we'll be doing this show live tomorrow on the nation's capital. a very high stakes day for the country and the biggest policy if you can if you can is up next. >> good morning, right now on first look. scathing report a gross report of bias policing. the hillary clienton e-mail scan da is growing. but she's not commenting on it. zblmpblts plus a plea deal for former cia director david he tray yus. also broad reaction to ben ja min nettian hue's speech before congress and much more. it is wednesday, march 4th. later today,
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