his heart when he carried out the boston marathon bombing nearly two years ago. the courthouse where the trial is held is two miles from the site of the 2013 bombing that killed three people and injured 260 more. dozens of victims of the attack are in that packed courtroom today, having arrived in two buses early this morning, entering through a side entrance away from cameras and reporters. defense attorneys will argue that dzhokhar tsarnaev who was 19 at the time of the bombing is dominated and controlled by his older brother, tapper lynn, a man that was the master mind of the attack if con vicked he would face the death penalty or life in prison. rehema ellis is in boston. we are getting details, hearing the defense say that it was him, referring back to dzhokhar tsarnaev in the video, also saying the crimes were senseless and that they would not try to side step his guilt. >> reporter: for sure tamron.

we even heard a short while ago that the prosecution ended its opening statement and the defense attorneys began their opening statement. we should tell you that in the prosecution statement that lasted a little more than an hour he shared some details about this bombing that happened nearly two years ago, very graphic details, painting a picture of what the day was like it was a marathon day for people in boston and a red sox game being played but also told them about what the defendant allegedly did. you have someone inside sharing information with me. let me read it for you. according to the prosecution, they said tsarnaev was not there to watch the marathon he had a backpack over his shoulder and inside that backpack he had a bomb, the type of bomb preferred by terrorists the purpose of that bomb to shred flesh. he also said that tsarnaev took that backpack and placed it in front of a row of children and one of the children killed in that explosion was an

eight-year-old, martin richard. this was a trial of a suspected terrorist. as a result of that, i want to take you here. you can't see it at this moment but we have boats out here in the water, one being a u.s. coast guard boat and off to the side a little more you'll see a boat by the boston police department, they're also here in the water. security is very tight here. this is a case of a federal court case 30 federal counts against a suspected terrorist. 17 of those counts carry the potential death penalty. the jurors seated have been asked if they could render a death penalty if they find him guilty. they all say they could. here in a state that outlawed the death penalty in the 1980s, and last execution in the state was in 1947 tamron, but again, this is not a state case this is a federal case. >> to make the point, you are outside. we have reporters inside and part of the defense opening statement as i mention is that his attorneys, dzhokhar

tsarnaev's attorneys say they will not side step his guilt and referred to the attack as senseless. what more do we know about the strategy to portray dzhokhar tsarnaev as a young man led by his brother. >> well tapper lynn legal experts telling us that tsarnaev adored his older brother. at the time tapper lynn was 26 his younger brother 19 at the time, they say he was dominated, that he even looked up at his brother as a father figure. and in so doing, he was led to do whatever his brother may have wanted him to do and that's what brought him into this courthouse today. tamron. >> the defense finished. court is in recess. part of the strategy sounds similar to the d.c. sniper trial where there was an older individual and the jury was faced with the decision or story line the young man was basically doing what he was told there. with that said let me talk to

you about the emotion. as i mention, there are victims inside that courtroom, you have been out there. what are some of the things people say. this is expected to last another three to four months. >> reporter: yes, it is. they think this trial will be going on even when there's the next running of the boston marathon in april, they think this trial could go into june because the prosecution we are told has a list of 700 potential witnesses, over 1200 pieces of evidence the prosecution will present. also you can imagine there's going to be that presentation by the defense. again, to present this man who is now 21 he will be 22 in july present him as someone who was dominated, who was outside his ability to control what he wanted to do because he was in essence, according to the defense, how we think they're going to try to paint this he was unable to control what he was doing because he was trying to please his older brother who he looked up to so much. >> thank you for those details.

court is in recess now, we will bring you the latest when it resumes. the supreme court finished hearing a major challenge that could doom the president's health care law, that as demonstrators on both sides of the institution rallied right outside the court. at issue, a four word phrase in the law, says the tax subsidies that help millions of low and middle income americans afford coverage are available to those buying insurance on exchanges, quote, established by the state. that's critical only 16 states have exchanges up and running, the other 34 have exchanges run by the federal government. if justices rule against the obama administration 7 million people in those 34 states could lose their subsidies, and therefore no longer be able to afford coverage. the insurance industry warns rising costs for shrinking number of participants could cause the system to collapse. joining me live new york university law school

constitutional law professor. thank you for joining us. >> great to be here. >> the phrase established by the state. this is something point out by thomas christina, unemployment benefits lawyer in south carolina who found what he says is this chink in the armor of the affordable health care law. what do you think? >> exactly. i think the important thing is if you clip and flip that snippet, it sounds damning because established by the state sounds like it is a state and this is the federal government setting up exchanges and federal exchanges are the ones at issue in the 36 states you mentioned, so on one hand it sounds pretty damning. on the other hand, we have a really long tradition of saying we don't just look at the text we look at the context and intent interpreting statutes. we got a mid oral argument report i was looking online and elaine a kagan made this point to challengers saying don't we look at the purpose of the whole statute. >> based on that it sounds as

if you believe that the affordable care act will survive the challenge? >> i think it should survive, taken as a whole, it is manifestly clear what congress intended was for people to be able to buy on a state or federal exchange. so there was a glitch in that forward phrase but i don't think that we can just take that in isolation. we have to look at the statute as a whole. >> you look at the argument of the other side of this where do you see that they may have momentum? >> i think it is two things. i think they have that four word phrase. on the other hand, they have large ideological base that wants to gut obamacare at any cost, so there's going to be a lot of pressure particularly on conservatives in the court, to take a literalist reading of the four words. >> how about pressure on chief justice john roberts, know that big decision in 2012 that 5-4 vote, how critical is he in this? >> can i say in a moment of

levity it is a relief we are looking to him as opposed to kennedy for a swing vote. but exactly right, in a 2012 epic showdown upheld on constitutional grounds he was a swing vote. everybody is looking to him to say are you going to let obamacare be gutted through the back door after upholding it through the front door are you worried about your legacy if you do that. as you said a lot of these individuals, the republicans are playing a very dangerous game with this insofar as if they actually succeed and the law is gutted, millions of their own constituents. >> 7 million people some of the poorest parts of the country. >> exactly. i think it is also important that we sort of like to think of the court as saying we are just going to rule let the heavens fall they always have at least one ear tuned to what public opinion will say about this and i think there's a huge difference tamron between what was going on in 2012 when obamacare hadn't hit the ground yet and what's happening now

when people actually have health care right, and so to take health care away from people who now have it is a very different enterprise from not giving it to them in the first place. >> thank you so much. pleasure to have you on. i know you're work on a book look forward to hearing about that later. >> thanks. and the justice department set to have a news conference today where we could learn more about its investigation into the ferguson police department which found that officers routinely engaged in stunning patterns of racial bias. those patterns include unreasonable excessive force, baseless traffic stops, issuing petty citations. according to the report while african americans makeup 67% of the population in ferguson they accounted for 85% of traffic stops, 90% of tickets, 93% of arrests, 88% of cases in which police documented use of force. the investigation was launched six months ago, after the death of michael brown.

and drew nationwide protests required a closer look at the relationship between law enforcement and minority communities. as "the new york times" puts it findings reinforce what city's black residents have been saying publicly since the shooting in august the criminal justice system in ferguson works differently for blacks and whites. msnbc reporter trymaine lee joins me with more. ferguson police department will respond after department of justice news conference today? >> reporter: that's right. these findings reveal what department of justice believes was the ferguson police department feeding a pattern that exploded after michael brown was killed. you think blacks were twice as likely to be stopped by police but 26% less likely to have illegal contraband even number of people bitten by dogs was skewed toward blacks all 14 cases, all african americans. blacks apparently were targeted

for discretionary charges like manner of walking in the roadway or jay walking. even beyond interaction in the street investigators found e-mails from court officials and police officers that were racial jokes that reference president obama. another referenced a black woman's abortion as a crime fighting tool. another step back they say the city essentially balanced its budget bu eeed finances by filing frivolous warrants and charging fines and fees when they didn't show up. in 2013 they made $440,000 off such fines. >> that's an incredible amount of money, but obviously the damage done to the community and particularly the minority community is something that cannot be measured. thank you very much. joining us st. louis alderman. let me get your reaction to numbers that are staggering when you look at the number of

african americans in ferguson who were just petty citations compared to whites. >> i think the doj report confirms what a lot of people have been saying for months in fact has been the experience of african americans in the st. louis region for years. it is important to note too, that the stats you're seeing aren't just for city residents of ferguson it is african americans traveling through ferguson. one of the things we learned last year there were twice as many outstanding warrants as there are citizens in ferguson. so this effects a lot of people. unfortunately mostly just african americans. >> and that's a great point you make alderman this is not just about people that live in ferguson, if you live outside that area driving through, and you were of color, if these stats are certainly right. they are according to department of justice, your risk of being pulled over for anything was very very high including things you perhaps were not

guilty of. look at what the department of justice and usa today and others pointed out, the police department will be given opportunity to make key changes, not necessarily the firing of any staff which is not required but major overhauls. where do you think the first change should be with that department if it is to survive. >> i am renewing my call for the chief of ferguson police department to resign based on his behavior in the months of august and september, i believe he should have resigned then. seeing some of the specific incidents that are noted in the doj report really substantiates the belief that there's a culture allowed to persist in the ferguson police department. there needs to be some level of accountability. i think the city council and city manager would be negligent if they did not ask for the chief's resignation. but even beyond that we need to see large scale change in ferguson.

i think some of the recommendations from doj have a dollar figure attached to them so they would be expensive. one of the things you may see in the future is that the city of ferguson may decide it is best to dissolve their police department and outsource policing to st. louis county. >> let me make a correction there, under consent decree the agreement between the department and department of justice, they could make policy changes and staff changes that you have requested and made note of from the beginning here. with that said the department has not responded. it will after the department of justice does the official unveiling of this report. is there anything at this point that the leadership of that police department could say to you and people of ferguson to give them credibility at this point? >> i think they need a new face of leadership and frankly based on some of the specific things in those doj reports. there needs to be a level of accountability, some people need to lose their jobs. that's in the best interest of

the entire community moving forward. >> on an emotional note here the numbers support what people in ferguson have been saying. when i interviewed the mayor of ferguson, he said flat out there was no race problem in his city later changed that statement. is this -- it is a bittersweet, if there's anything sweet about saying everything that we have been saying much of it is true and here are the numbers. >> it has been so frustrating for folks that their word their description of their experience has not been enough so now even with the doj report some folks are still denying the numbers, and that's unfortunate. but it shows that maybe those individuals aren't the ones need to be in those positions leading. >> alderman thanks for your time. greatly appreciate it. we continue to follow the boston bombing trial, opening statements, the course is in recess. when it resumes, we will give you the latest. and this. >> don't you someday want to see a woman president of the united

states of america? >> hillary clinton gets a warm welcome at the emily's list event. but hasn't said why she used her personal e-mail account for state department business. and curt schilling joins me live, the talk of social media after going after cyber bullies that attacked his daughter. he is outing them by name getting results and says he is not done. join me online on facebook, twitter, instagram.

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welcome back. new details this morning surrounding the controversy over hillary clinton's e-mails.

the secretary of state used a private e-mail to send e-mails from her personal account for business as secretary of state. something that would give her more control over archives. two congressional committees say they will investigate whether secretary clinton violated federal law yesterday. clinton aides say she did nothing wrong by using a personal e-mail account. she was doing what secretaries had done before her. the state department though agreed. >> secretary kerry is the first secretary of state to rely primarily on his state dot gov account. what secretary clinton did was by no means unusual, it had been the practice before secretary kerry. there's no prohibition use ago nonstate dot gov account for official business as long as it is preserved. >> she didn't talk about that speaking in washington, d.c. she dropped a tease about whether she will run for the white house in 2016. >> i suppose it is only fair to

say don't you someday want to see a woman president of the united states of america? >> joining me senior writer for politico wrote a piece on why hillary clinton is having a hard time defending herself over these stories. glen thanks for joining us. >> good to be here. >> before we get to the larger picture explored in your article, new information about the former secretary having an e-mail server in her home according to associated press. this is something that businesses would have more technical savvy individuals than some people would expect here. >> look hillary clinton has been since the beginning of her political career i am going back to 1974 when she worked with her husband on an unsuccessful congressional campaign in arkansas she was the guardian of a lot of files for bill clinton. she kept the key to the locked room. fast forward to her time in the east wing when she led the

health care reform panel, she attempted to keep that information under wraps. she has a long history of wanting to keep personal deliberations in the public space private, and i think this very much is a continuation of that desire on her part. >> to pick up on that point in the associated press story, they say operating her own server would have afforded clinton additional legal opportunities to block government or private subpoenas in criminal administrative or civil cases, her lawyers could object in court before being forced to turn over e-mails. that said at the emily's list event she did not mention this. this you see as another item in a growing list of things that are not being handled the best way by her team or by hillary clinton herself. >> i was talking to a couple of people in clinton's circle this morning, there's widespread dissatisfaction with the capacity to push back on this. look, against advice of a lot of people, including david plouffe, president obama's campaign

manager in 2008 she decided to delay hiring sort of core staff. back in 2006, 2007 2008, she was ramping up to run, she had a robust rapid response operation. right now, seems like there's one staffer, nick merrill and a couple other folks helping out. it doesn't seem like she has the capacity to get whatever information she wants out there out there. >> how stunning is that knowing the expectation, the feel of inevitability that these mistakes are being made. >> but this goes back it is a flashback from 2008 when we thought going into this thing that she had the cadillac of operations, and in fact right from the start we realized there were flaws there was in fighting. if anything it is a good hazing moment for the clinton team but the question now is how is she

going to be able to answer this. she wants to unveil a campaign instead she's going to be answering questions. >> glen thank you for joining us. greatly appreciate it. >> take care. winter storm watches and warnings posted in the south and ohio valley a new system could dump nearly a foot of snow. the latest on the awful forecast. new details are emerging over how much classified information former cia director david petraeus gave to his mistress. it is one of the stories we are following around the "newsnation." ♪ at mfs, we believe in the power of active management. every day, our teams collaborate around the world to actively uncover, discuss and debate investment opportunities. which leads to better decisions for our clients. it's a uniquely collaborative approach you won't find anywhere else. put our global active management expertise to work for you. mfs. there is no expertise without collaboration.

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any slush on the ground into ice. and the possibility of several inches of snow on top of that. msnbc meteorologist dominica davis, i feel like i gave the forecast. you always have more details on what we can expect. >> yeah tamron. this storm has a little of everything with it. we are going to see rain freezing rain, sleet, snow it extends from the northeast, pushes down through the ohio valley, tennessee valley down into the southern plains. this is a massive storm. right now much of it is rain. we are seeing on the western flank of the storm, starting to get some of that mix. here is why. because temperatures the cold front is yet to push through, so cold air is locked up through chicago, st. louis, louisville where it is 38 degrees. look at atlanta, 64. 52 in nashville. even boston at 42. this is very mild air. as this colder air starts to move in that's when we will see the change to snow sleet, freezing rain. the commute tonight will be a

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saying the only thing that would be new in netanyahu's speech yesterday is if he proposed a solid alternative on what you should do other than what the western countries, including the united states are trying to do in getting a deal with iran. tamron, important to note there are two dates to keep in mind as we follow this story and the fallout going forward. one is march 17th the day of israel's own elections. many observers ended up saying netanyahu's speech yesterday was more of a political speech than one dealing with policy. the other date march 24th. that's the deadline for the west and iran to wrap up talks. doesn't seem there's going to be another extension beyond march 24th. march 24th is becoming put up or shut up time to strike a deal. once that deal is struck then we will look at the details. >> all right, thank you very much, mark. see you tomorrow. thank you. >> thanks tamron. up next we have been talking about this guest, curt schilling will join me live with what some are calling his new crusade against cyber bullies.

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information, like the afghan war plan and identities of covert operation with his mistress while she was writing his biography. prosecutors will recommend two years probation and $40,000 fine. and it is called the day the music died february 3rd 1959 when rock and roll legend buddy holly, richie vallens and the big bopper were killed with a pilot when their single engine plane crashed minutes after take off in a small town in iowa. an investigation blamed it on weather and pilot error. a veteran pilot convinced them to reopen the investigation. he contends there are issues with weight and balance. the climb and descent factors the ntsb should investigate. there's new fallout over offensive, sexually threatening comments posted to social media

about curt schilling's daughter which drew headlines after prompting his blistering heart felt response. a new york yankees employee fired, and new jersey college student suspended after they were outed as among those who just posted the most awful things. it started when schilling sent a tweet congratulating his daughter gabby being recruited to play softball in rhode island. shortly after some twitter users responded with vile comments directed at gabby. after initially responding on twitter, curt schilling decided to take the users to task by posting a detailed 1700 word he is aon his blog that included some of their tweets. and users names connected to tweets noting he was able to quickly identify account holders. schilling writes in part the amount of vitriol i heard is not an issue, i am not sure i'll hear more but i have to ask, is this even remotely okay in any world at any time. he goes on to say this is a generation of kids who have

grown up behind the monitor and keyboard. the real world has consequences when you do and say things about others. joining me three time world series champion pitcher, curt schilling. thanks for joining us. >> thank you. >> so as a daddy's girl had a great father. i love that you stuck up for gabby. but this although it started with your heart, your daughter is something bigger now about the cyber bullies. when you first read some of the negative comments, what did you think? >> well to be real clear, tamron, the blog i posted was probably copied 5,000. the first started with i am going to get in my car and drive over and kill somebody. it is how dads feel. quickly, i have three sons as well so i looked at it as potential teaching moment number one. number two, looked at it as an attack on my family. >> absolutely. when you started to dig deeper and found out i like to call

them the anonymous eggs these are people that often put up fake profiles or no profile at all. when you started to peel back layers and find out there's a kid that works for the yankees, another kid in college, there's a type of person that you discovered. >> well listen those are just two. there were nine i call them boys that i found and nine boys that i either contacted or contacted somebody associated with them. five of them were college athletes. and elite athletes. and i heard someone say it perfectly, you know that some of these guys ruined a $140,000 scholarship in 140 characters and as a dad, listen this is no different than someone walking in in front of your daughter and punching her in the face. how would you react as a parent. but those scars will heal. my daughter has to carry this the rest of her life. >> absolutely.

to that point, you saw it as an attack on your family. i know that some of the people that go on and write think it is just words or that there's not a human being on the other side of those words, but to you it is potentially something criminal that should be investigated. >> i know for a fact it is criminal, but yelling fire in a theater is a word as well. this is a group of people that broke the law and to be clear, the internet is real people talk about twitter and the real world, twitter is the real world, it is the world this generation is growing up in and that's fine. i don't have a problem people saying the things they say about me, i am a big boy, can defend myself or block them. when this happens to your family as a father and husband, i have two jobs. put a roof over my family's head and to protect them. if i'm not doing those, what am i doing. >> i have to tell you, when i saw the headline i clicked on the story, i couldn't stop reading your words and your

reaction. were you surprised it went viral as we like to say? >> i don't know that i was surprised about the viralness of it. i am absolutely stunned by the size of it. you know my blog has had well over 2 million visitors in a day and a half. but clearly this is an issue with the amount of response i received and my reply keeps being the same you don't have to have money, you don't have to be a celebrity to fix this you have to out these people and it is not hard to do. >> you didn't hire anyone to find their background, you did it on your own? >> didn't have to. you can google. you can use google to do most of the work. and people are stupid. they leave things everywhere pictures and everything. >> i think you're right. i believe people forget how easy it is. i have full disclosure i pulled up a couple of people it was

very easy to find those responsible for some of the awful and disgusting things i read about myself even. so with that said you mention that some of the kids may lose scholarships, may lose their jobs. do you even care? >> no. once you attack someone, you attack my family rules go out the window. i'm concerned and worried about my family. there are families out there that don't have kids any more because they killed themselves over stuff like this. >> absolutely. it is a very serious matter. i am applauding you. i am a texas rangers fan, i am a texas girl. i said i am going out to buy a curt schilling jersey. i'll take the one in the background there. bravo as a dad sticking up for his daughter as a parent. >> thank you. >> a decent human being who saw something wrong out there. thank you so much for joining us. we appreciate it. >> thank you. just into us arguments just ended in the supreme court challenge to the health care law. justice correspondent pete

williams was inside the court. pete what can you tell us? >> reporter: tamron, i can't tell you what the outcome of this case is going to be for two reasons. the likely deciding votes in this case will be the chief justice, john roberts and anthony kennedy who often is the deciding votes. chief justice roberts said almost nothing today during the hour and a half arguments here. he did not pepper the government's lawyers with questions as he did three years ago when the obamacare case was here in its infancy, so we can't really read anything into that. i don't know whether it means he has made up his mind thinks his conservative colleagues don't need persuading from him on the bench or what. the second thing justice kennedy said if you read the language of the law, it seems to be what the challengers say, that you only get the federal subsidy if you're buying insurance on the state exchange. but he also said that if you read it that way, it might be unconstitutional coercing states to set up their own exchanges so

they don't leave their people without this federal subsidy. so let's remember what's at stake here health insurance for probably some 8 million people because the government argues without the federal subsidy, those people low and moderate income people would not be able to afford insurance. the stakes are very high. after an hour and a half of argument the outcome of this case is impossible to predict. >> so interesting. pete, thank you very much. appreciate that live update. straight ahead, follow up to a story we brought you a few months ago, a man brutally attacked, suffered a concussion. when he woke up he was a math genius. this is a remarkable story. wait until you hear about a movie planned on his life and what's happened next for him. a live update coming up. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage.

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time now for the "news nation" gut check. a maryland couple who became

known as the free-range parents rf being cited for letting their of 6 and 10-year-old kids walk home from a local park. they're back in the headlines. they say they encourage their kids to be independent. child protective services conducted a two-month investigation and found the parents responsible for, quote, unsubstantiated child neglected. the decision means child protective services will keep a file on the family for at least five years, but it's not clear yet what will happen if the children are found walking alone again. the family says they have no plans to change the way they are raising their children. >> you know my husband and i are very firm believers in this independence and allowing our kids simple freedoms and we're going to keep doing it. >> so the family is appealing that state's decision. what does your gut tell you? should maryland remove the child

neglect reference from the file of the parents? again, that's for five years. go to newsnation.msnbc.com to cast that vote. we continue now with seven days of genius. msnbc's special project highlighting the people and ideas changing the world. we met my next guest last april. up until about 13 years ago, he was what you would probably describe as a regular guy. he described it himself as someone with no interest in academics who liked to party and chase girls. that all changed when he was violently mugged late one night in tacoma washington in 2002. he was beat so badly that he woke up with a concussion and his injuries were so severe he woke up a math genius at 31. now he's written a memoir called "struck by genius" that will soon be made into a movie starring channing tatum. jason joins me now from seattle. good to see you. >> good to see you. >> i can't tell you how many people ask me, is this real? there's no way, but you have been tested monitored to prove

that this is not just something made up. >> yes. i've been in functional mris. they put you in there, and they'll put pictures in front of you and see what part of your brain activates by how much oxygen it uses. they can actually put you in there, have you do math and compare what your brain does to control subjects to see how -- where the difference is. they're actually working on implants that people are going to be able to get to help upgrade your brain in just the near future. >> if there's a basic way to explain how the concussion resulted in you turning into a math genius how do doctors explain it? >> well the main thing that -- the way i always explain it is our vision works like a video camera, like a tv. you're seeing individual pictures like this. and it's jittery, but there's a portion of our brain that smooths it out so my hands looks nice and smooth. that portion of my brain is injured. so when things move they have this slight jitteriness to it

like individual picture frames. and mathematically that gives you a huge advantage because when you get into physics and math, you're taking things apart into frames and into a grid structure, which stands out when you see things discreetly. it's amazing, the advantage it gives you. i was one of those people that hated it. >> through this tragedy, you've been able to triumph. as we're highlighting in this series how people who are declared a genius are changing the world, how do you plan to change the world with what's happened to you? >> the one thing that i love to do is talk to students. i'll be giving a t.e.d. talk here. i leave on pi day and give the talk on the 17th. there's ways to teach how pi which is to me the root of mathematics because it defines slope, but there's ways to teach it that are really simple that everyone can get. even fifth and sixth graders. when you teach them this with drawings instead of equations, you're teaching them in a sneaky way integral calculus, the

concept of it and differential calculus and other hardcore math ideas. later on when they hit algebra and calculus it makes sense because they've already had the concepts embedded before they go into the hardcore classes. then all they have to do is memorize the equations. >> well i have a 15-year-old niece. i want to make sure she sees that t.e.d. talk. with that said, you were once described as college dropout, a jock, a struggling furniture salesperson, you hated math. how do you describe yourself now? >> i live for it. i think about it constantly. i'll think of any excuse i can to bring it up. because it's beautiful. and the main thing i always try to get across is that math is shapes or geometry. and the world and the universe is geometry. everything around us is literally mathematics. and we all can understand it. it's just that a lot of us learn differently. a lot of us are visual. those of us that are visual tend to not go into math because it's

more of a language. >> well congratulations on reaching out to so many and surviving what could have been something that ended your life. we appreciate you joining us. it is not too shabby when channing tatum plays you. so that's the icing on the cake there. >> we're still stunned. the whole family is still stunned by it. >> that's kind of awesome. thank you again for joining us. we wish the best to you as well. >> thank you. >> so that does it for this edition of "news nation." i'm tamron hall. you can catch us every weekday 11:00 a.m. eastern time here on msnbc. unnext "andrea mitchell reports."

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right now on "andrea mitchell reports," back to the bench. the president's health care plan faces what could be a lethal challenge at the supreme court today. >> health care under attack! stand up fight back! >> we aren't asking for a handout, just a fair chance. >> this is about real people. >> the issue before the supreme court is relatively simple. >> we know that one size fits all health care does not work. >> taking the hill. benjamin netanyahu fired up republicans, but the president wants to know how would he stop iran without a nuclear deal. >> mr. obama said you have no viable al