always. that's ""the ed show." "politics nation" with al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. \s. >> good evening, ed. i'm live tonight from miami. we start with breaking news. these are live pictures of that airliner that nearly plunged off a runway and into icy water. emergency vehicles still in response mode. investigators on the way with plans to retrieve the black boxes. the delta flight arriving at new york's laguardia airport today carrying 127 passengers and five decree members, only to go sliding off the runway and nearly straight into the bay, stopped only by a safety embankment. here's the real-time reaction from air traffic control. >> we have an aircraft off the runway.

it's close, the airport is closed. we got a 3-4. >> call 100, say again. >> an air krafl off 3-1 on the service road. please advice laguardia is closed at this time. >> if he comes up he's lacking fuel on the left side of his aircraft heavily. >> you said leaking fuel? >> a-firm the wing is ruptured. >> passengers describe the harrowing moments. >> we landed it started skiing it hit the side of the rail then 400 yards, next thing we knew it came to a halt. >> it was kind of like a state of shock. i mean people were look what's going on? what's really going on? we were just trying to figure out what was going on. >> all of a sudden we stopped. i literally looked out my window and we were literally a matter of feet from hitting the water. >> this photo was taken from

inside the plane. you can see how close it came to the water. just a few feet more and this would be an entirely different story. passengers were forced to evacuate by climbing down a breen wing. there are no reports yet of serious injuries though some passengers were on gurneys. now the search for answers, and how this went so wrong. joining me now is tom costello who covers aviation for nbc news. tom, take us through what happened here. what do we know? >> let me start out with this map here. this gives us a good sense of the schematics of laguardia airport. here's laguardia airport. down here is the terminal. they were coming in on runway 1-3. anybody who has flown into laguardia has done this before. the plane comes in like this but loses control about two thrds of the way down, hangs a

left and banks into that berm and nearly into flushing bay. a very close call indeed. >> we don't know what caused the plane to lose control. >> we don't. we know the plane was coming in from atlanta. probably at somewhere around 150 miles per hour or so maybe a bit more or less but that's normal, but it is coming in on a runway that is notoriously short. in other words, anybody coming into laguardia knows this is a challenging airport and challenging runways in the best of conditions. if you're coming in in a snow type of environment, it's slick, it's wet, it is slippery. that could be very dangerous. you've got to be at your a-game. where did they touch down on the runway will be a question what was their speed? how did the braking go? what about the thrust reversers? those are devices almost like pots or half-clams, if you will that fit over the engines that reverses the thrust of the

engine, slows the plane down. did all of that go well? if there was a problem with braking or problem with the thrust reversers, it's possible the plane could do a fishtail. in fact what happens to have happened the plane did fishtail hang a left and into the embankment. thankfully that was there. >> that's what investigators are trying to find out answer to these series of questions you raised? >> that's right. they'll recover both the flight data recorder and cockpit recorder, and that will give them that much information, we presume. how much of an icing condition. two previous pilots lit really four to five minutes before this plane landed said they had good braking conditions. in fact the runway had been plowed about 20 30 minutes prior to this incident. however this went down they were incredibly lucky. as you know it was about 23 years ago there was a fatal plane crash, a plane taking off in a snowstorm at laguardia, and

in effect they went into the water and 27 people were dead. in this case those embankments, and that chain link fence really saved the day. >> no doubt about it. >> the question is how did this happen? why were these pilots in the situation they were in? was there a piloting error? an equipment malfunction? there's a lot of questions to be asked. >> we're going to pay attention. as much as i fly into laguardia they have my attention. thank you for the report. >> you bet. let's bring in marcus zach a passenger on the flight today. his picture standing next to the plane got a lot of attention on social media today. also jay rawlins, former u.s. navy pilot. thank you both for being here. >> marcus take me through what

happened. >> we knew almost immediately as we were touching down. there was a lot of ice, a lot of snow that was on the runway. knew it was probably going to be a bumpy ride. >> now, was there any warning from the captain? >> no no warning from the captain or the crew. it was just business as usual. even when they started skidding and were going through, there was very little communication around, you know brace yourself or anything like that. >> wow. >> you know everyone was actually very calm. you don't ever expect to be in this ordeal when you're flying even when we crashed into the embankment and stopped from the slide, there wasn't cheering or

kind of panic, most people were just relieved and thankful that we were able to live through this ordeal. did people realize how close they were to the water? >> i don't think most people did unless you were on the left-hand side, or like myself you fly in all the time and you know that water is right there. i know myself my first thought when we start eded one we started veering to the left hoping that the angle we took was not going to propel us right into the water. >> jay, what are your biggest questioning. >> well i have a the question i was about the reports that the pilots got about the conditions

on the ground. apparently they were told it was good braking conditions. having said that the next question is where exactly did they touch down on the runway whether they were landing fast, or whether there was an equipment malfunction, the anti-skid system possibly failing, or shifting winds, any of these things could have caused a problem. there could have been a slick spot right at the point that it started to fishtail. the business about the thrust reversers, if one of them opens up and starts reversing on one side, but not the other side, then you've got a problem that could call this fishtailing. >> jay, officials today said the runway had been plowed shortly before the incident. listen. >> shortly before the incident at approximately 11:05, two planes landed and recorded good braking action. the runway this particular

runway had been plowed shortly before the incident and pilots on other planes reported good braking action. >> now, a question -- what does that tell you by that statement jay? >> in a normal airport, meaning one with a long runway that could probably tend to relax a captain that was approaching, but laguardia is not like that. as mentioned earlier, it's a difficult airport even in the best conditions because the runway is only 7,000 feet. that particular aircraft i'm familiar with and it requires 5,000 feet on a good day, so 7,000 feet with slick conditions like that lower visibility it would be stressful. so just them saying that it's good conditions i would still have in the back of my mind that kennedy is close by and it has nice long runways, but, you know, they did say good braking

conditions, so you probably would go ahead and try this landing landing, but you need everything, all of the mechanics, all of the actions of the pilots to pretty well go according to the book or else you set yourself up for this. >> you say it would be challenging for a pilot even on a good day. >> yes, laguardia is definitely one of the more challenging airports in the united states. 7,000 feet is a fairly short runway. it's not as bad as a 5,000-foot strip, but it has water off the ends where if you do go off the end of the runway you're in the water as opposed to a normal quote/unquote airport where you would go on to a level dirt condition. >> wow. i think that a lot of passengers, though going back to you, marcus are clearly don't think about these things until you're faced with something like that. >> totally. i've probably flown over a

million miles. never in my wildest dreams would i expect to be in this situation. i'm totally thankful and blessed that it wasn't any worse than what it was today. >> well we'll be watching and we're glad that everyone is safe and that there are no major injuries. thank you marques zak, and jay rawlins, both of you for your time. >> thank you. a date of shattering emotional testimony in the trial of the accused boston bomber. the father of this young boy confronting his son's alleged killer, as other survivors talk about their road back to recovery. >> i'm still here. i was three feet away from a bomb. i'm going to run across the finish line. that's my goal. also hillary clinton breaks her silence on the e-mail controversy. and an heir to the hilton fortune gets a plea deal for his

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now as to the developing controversy over hillary clinton's use of private e-mails reportedly stored on her own server. she's now asked the state department to hand over all the e-mails from her private account. late last night, she tweeted -- i wanted public to see my e-mail. i asked state to release them. they said they will review them for release as soon as possible. the state department saying it will review the e-mails it has, but it could take some time. >> we are now in the process of appropriately reviewing those for public release, as we do for any document for public release, and we will undertake this task as rapidly as possible. >> according to the "new york

times," 55,000 payments of e-mails were given to the department hundreds of those pages were turned over to the house select committee on benghazi. are there legitimate questions here? yes. is this something clinton needs to address? yes. but let's be very clear. we cannot let this be open season for benghazi conspiracy theories. the benghazi investigating committee already issued subpoenas for e-mails. >> my responsibility is to write the final report on benghazi. to our committee's credit and frankly there are those who question whether or not we need to exist, we found something that no other committee has found. >> congress has asked for these, and evidently those e-mails were not included in the document productions. >> what makes anybody think that we're going to get all of them simply because we ask for them? >> we've seen report after report done on benghazi.

none of them found any evident of wrongdoing. the house intelligence report said there was, quote, no intelligence failure prior to the attacks. so questions? yes. benghazi conspiracy machine? no. joining me now, former pennsylvania governor ed rendell, and msnbc contributor victoria difrancesco-soto. thank you both for being here. what should hillary clinton do? what is the way forward here? >> i think do what she did, tell the state department that she wants all these e-mails to be released after they reviewed them for national security all e-mails to be released not only the select committee, but more important made public. reporters, media outlets, as well as the committee, they can pore over 55,000 pages of e-mails, which by the way, rev,

it's important to note were released in response to a request by secretary clinton, released them in response to a statement department request last october, way before the times article. so i think a lot of reporters and staffers for the select committee are going to need a new optical plan reviewing 55,000 pages of e-mails, but the secretary did what she had to do. the state department spokesman in a statement today made it clear there was no prohibition against using a private e-mail server. other secretaries of state, including the great colin powell, have done the same thing -- urchlts and she releasedrelease ed these 5,000 way before the article. >> she fulfilled her obligation for transparency. by the way governor bush just to use an example, one out of every five e-mails he sent out was on a private e-mail account, not the state of florida's

account. other governors and mayors do the like. there's no story here nothing unusual, but this is the world we live in. >> victoria here are how the rules from the national archives have changed. in 2009 you could use private e-mail, but they had to be preserved in the appropriate agency's recordkeeping system. in 2013 after clinton left office, the rules changed, saying you should generally not use private e-mail address for business. and in 2014 the rules said if you use a private account, you had to copy or forward your e-mail to an official e-mail address. what do you make of this, victoria? >> with all of these guidelines we see very clearly that secretary clinton was not in violation of the regulations. hindsight is 20/20. should chef maybe used the official server instead of her

personal one? okay, but ultimately the republican portion is going -- the republican base is going to go after secretary clinton regardless and i think what's interesting is that republicans have all of the time in the world to do so because hillary clinton is the prospective front-runner for the democratic party and we're more than a year away from the presidential election. they will be nitpicking trying to find every little thing they can. i think sadly this is the beginning of a much bigger pattern of going after secretary clinton. >> you go governor another member of the house select committee on benghazi released this statement saying -- the last time we saw higher government officials seeking to edit their own responses was president nixon. i mean is this the republican machine gearing up? comparing this to nixon? is this giving them stronger legs? i don't see how you make that comparison.

>> well,ist ludicrous, it is clear when secretary clinton was in office there was no prohibition against used private e-mail. again colin powell appointed by a republican president, did the exact same things. other secretaries have done the exact same thing. but secretary clinton let me repeat, before the "new york times" article way before last october, turned over 55,000 pages of e-mails when the state department requested it she's hiding nothing. i think this is the type of politics. i agree we'll see more and more of it but this is the type of politics that convinces americans that nobody is worth voting for. the negative long-drawn-out campaigns that we run are one of the reasons that voting totals are so low in this country. i think hillary clinton did rise above it. i hope she does. i think her action today,

releasing publicly all of these e-mails was the right step to take. >> victoria do voters outside of washington care about -- >> you know what, reverend, they don't. right now we're so early in the -- people are focusing on day-to-day lives, digging themselves out from the snow. these are things we are care about. politicians, political scientists political youngies but ultimately it's folks who are going to the polls don't care about it. if this keeps on as we get closer and closer to the election it could become an issue, but thankfully there's enough time to address it with transparency and put it to bed. >> governor rendell, you are close to the clintons. will this affect hurl timing in terms of an announcement? >> i don't think it will rev. i echo what she just said.

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body. an officer who tried to save lingziu said she lead -- i told them she wasn't alone when she died. but the day ended with the most heartbreaking testimony of all, when bill richard, is the father of 8-year-old martin richard took the stand. he testified when he saw his son after the explosion, quote -- there was no chance. he then went to the hospital with his 6-year-old daughter who lost a leg. he testified his wife called and, quote -- she told me that martin was dead. i told her, i know. he was 8 years old. joining me now is susan salkind, who's covering the kay for the "the daily beast" and was in the courtroom today, and former u.s. attorneys kendall coffey. thank you both for being here.

>> thanks reverend. >> thank you. >> susan, what was the mood like when martin richard's father testified? >> i don't think there was a dry eye in the courtroom, but what was remarkable bill richards was very composed when he told they horrific story. this is a story of a family that's will many become symbolic of the horror that struck the city itself. a family going to a sporting event, getting some ice cream and their entire lives being literally torn apart. in some cases it gets very graphic, in some cases their limbs. it was pretty heart-wrenching. susan, how was tsarnaev acting in court? >> you know what the government says about tsarnaev after the bombing, and this happens in the opening statement, he acted like he doesn't care. he acts aloof. that's been his presence the way he's been acting generally. truth be told he acts like a

21-year-old misguided college student. in this case it's a 21-year-old misguided college student in a very, very extreme horrific terrible situation. >> kendall, how will all this emotional testimony affect the jury? >> well it's devastating, of course for everyone in the courtroom. even just hearing susan talk about it is upsetting. and it makes guilty verdicts an inevitability. for that reason the defense lawyer is all but agreed that her client did it. and normally of course a capital murder case like this a terrorism case is done in two stages. so this is the guilt or innocence phase, assuming guilty verdicts again there would be following that a sentencing phase, but the defense strategy is essentially treating this entire trial not as any kind of attempt to prove innocence. that's gone but to try to save

her client from the death penalty, treating even -- >> so is that why the defense didn't ask any questions today? i mean, what's the strategy behind that? >> well that's exactly right. you can't challenge this horrible tragic appalling truth. you certainly don't want to quick about it and lose the jury completely so she'll shut down and not hear another word you're saying form the defense is standing back let the jury hear it and hope that down the road the jury will at least listen when they try to explain circumstances as to why this man's life should not be taken for the horrible crimes he assuredly committed. >> susan, you wrote an article in "the daily beast" how the d.c. sniper defense could get the boston bomber off. what are the similarities between this case and the d.c. sniper case? >> well it's worked before. as you remember in the d.c. sniper case you have shooters who have murdered multiple

people terrorized an entire region, where the topic of headlines widely publicized case but -- in this case there's john lee boyd and john allen, the older associate. a 17-year-old and a man in his 40s. the man in his 40s is sentenced to death, the 17-year-old survives. what the attorney told me about his case today was that he argued that the younger client was brainwashed. that's very much like what the tsarnaev's attorneys did earlier. they said that tsarnaev was under the influence of his older brother tamer lynn tsarnaev, and tam earlen sass he was massive in his personal as well that tsarnaev was misguided, failing

in college classes, his parents had left the country, and they say tamerlin was the one that was radicalized. there might be evidence for that but what the government is trying to do to counter that argument that dzhokhar was radicalized himself. >> kendall, will the jury september that his older brother is really to blame? >> it's going to take a lot of work to get there. there's so much he did individually. the defense is acknowledging he set off a bomb. when he was hiding under the boat he wrote this note. his brother was dead by then. he wrote a note basically explaining a terrorist motive for what he had done. it's not going to be easy. as susan described, it's the kind of thing that gives the defense a shot. if they can get one or two of those jurors to hold out, and say okay he's guilty but

doesn't deserve to die. he was dominated by an overpowering older brother, yes he's got to go to jail yes he's guilty but he shouldn't die for it. they could get a couple holdout jurors. >> what is the goal kendall? what are they trying to do? >> all they're trying to do is save the like of dzhokhar tsarnaev. they know they can't keep him out of the jail. he they know hess ago -- to spend the rest of his life in prison but a life sentence would be considered a defense victory. thank you both for your time tonight. >> thanks, reverend. still ahead, bloody sunday 50 years later. what a new poll reveals about the challenges then and now. also jeb bush's million dollar problem. why he's actually asking donors to give less money. also a plea deal for the hilton heir who freaked out on

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this chart shows how outside spending in presidential elections exploded after the 2010 supreme court ruling. now there's so much money sloshing around that gem bub is actually telling donors to stop giving him somp cash. "the washington post" reports that bush is saying he is telling donors not to give more than $1 million. jason, have you heard of. >> but then again we've never seen an election like this. running again the wife of a

former president. we can't pretend anymore that we have any semblance of democracy. this is all going to be a bought and paid for election. i'm not surprised what george bush is doing. he's certainly not going to convince anyone he's beholding to the -- soing this all just window dressing right now for something that would be bought by probably six or seven major investors in the united states. >> at first glance i really appreciate the sentiment, but i have to agree with jason on this. this to me only speaks of the privilege hoe actually has as a candidate, that he's so comfortable that he can say, no no, you're over a million, i'm not going to take it. citizens united is not a popular decision. >> it helps him with who? >> with americans. a lot of americans are actually not comfortable with the idea of millionaires or billionaires deciding who will be winning these elections. i think this is a good move for

him. he a, doesn't need the money, he has so much of it and b, i think a lot of americans will see that as a good decision on his part. >> sheera do you think it helps him or hurts him? alternate another level it should remind how many are supporting him. >> yeah well first of all, it must be nice right? to be a political candidate and have to turn down millions. i think it's a smart move because this guy is looking to win a republican primary, and he's already been labeled the candidate. if he comes out roaring with millions more dollars, he's just going to be tacked with that label for the next year and won't bet get rid of it. if he's trying to get his

average republican kind of blue collar working-class guy, this is something that plays to him. that's another element to this? >> yeah this is jeb as chance to get some street cred and talk about hey, i'm not completely beholding to millionaires, i only know 12 or 13 of them. but don't we remember it was just six years ago president obama bragged about the fact that the average donation was only $40? that's what resonates with voters. if i were jeb bush i would have said this at all. this is the kind of thing he'll be hammered with the next spring when he's trying to run for president. >> i'm sure they would not want to make it known that they were limiting dough naz. >> yeah they put it out -- it was forced out, i believe, from the context that i read it. let's move on.

ladies and gentlemen boys and girls, children of all ages. the elephants are going away. the circus is ending a 100-year tradition. phasing elephants out of their shows. the move comes after years of complaints from animal rights groups, who say elephants are abused and mistreated. peta uncovered this video of the elephants being mistreated in 2009. the circus denied charges of abuse then, but now will they retire their 43 elephants to the company's center for elephant conservation? florida by 2018? other animals will stay in the acts. liz, good decision? or will you miss the elephants? >> i will not miss the elephants. i'm happy. the ones that were a part of the circus will just retire as in

the center that they already live in but i'm glad to see the circumstance kiss industry taking the step. it's come a long way. we used to have bearded women and people of smaller sizes there as literally -- as part of a freak show. so i think we're taking a step in the right direction. i'm glad it's audiences, the market is moving the circus industry in this direction. i think that's a good sign. i've been to say i'm sad. full disclosure. my aunt used to work for the circus. i rode on the backs of elephants. i have very fond memories of these things. as an adult, i know they're not -- >> being marched around little cages. >> the crowns pulled me out. it was a very fun thing. as an adult i recognize there's other ways to get entertainment. it's not necessarily fair to the animals. i'll miss it.

it was a big part of my childhood. >> sheera we'll go to you so jay can get hess composure. >> this is not a past time i will miss at all. let's watch a baseball game instead. it's crawl what they have done to animals, and i think it's absolutely wonderful that consumers have made the choice to stop supporting it. i think that's one of the best parts about our country, and it made a difference. as the market changed and americans have changed. everyone stay with me. when we come back paris hilton's brother might be getting off from an alleged air-rage incident. we'll talk about it next. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. for every way you make chicken noodle soup, make it delicious with swanson®.

wore back with our panel, sheer ooh, jason and liz. is affluenza striking again. paris hilton's brother conrad reportedly went on a midair tirade on a flight in july allegedly threatening to kill crew members, calling other passengers peasants. he was charged with interfering with a flight crew and faced up to 20 years in prison but he just pled guilty to a misdemeanor of assault. it carries a maximum of six months in jail, but under the

deal prosecutors said they would ask a judge to give him only probation. >> jason is this fair? no it's not. rev, you're exactly right. he's surprised there wasn't some air marshal to beat him down when he was having an absolute fit. this is not only a danger to the people on the plane, but it sets a horrible precedent. he apparently bragged to people he's been kicked off several other airlines for these behaviors. >> sheera? >> yeah i think this is very sad. it's sad because he's gotten a pretty week a guy with so many means can't find what he needs as help. i'm not a shrink, but it seems like there's some psychological issues going on. >> liz? >> i mean i was reading what he

said you know calling passengers peasants and yeah saying like my father is going to fire all of you. it really read like a parody of a rich brat who's on a plane and no one can stand. i know a lot of people are asking for zones for just children and babies in airplaneses. maybe there should be just a zone for spoiled rich brats, or the hiltons for that matter. >> can't they take their own planes by now? >> is change coming to the $20 bill? a new campaign is asking people to vote to take president andrew jackson off the $20 bill and replace him with a woman among the 15 candidates are women's rights activist susan b. anthony. anti-slavery hero harriet tubman and rosa parks. sheera is it time to finally put a woman on an american bill? >> this would be an awesome change, rev, it really would be.

first of all, andrew jackson, not exactly a great president, right? he just you know he didn't even support the idea of a paper currency to begin with. he preferred silver and gold. i don't think he would even enjoy the fact he was on a paper bill. that aid sigh, there's so many wonderful people in the history of our country, including an african-american woman. i personally think the first african-american woman elected to congress would be an excellent choice and be an inspiration for a lot of women. >> and ran for president in '72. i was one of her youth directors. >> jason? >> i think it would be great. eleanor roosevelt on the other. >> there's a precedent for having more than one person on the bill. we need to do it now before paper money is put out of the circumstance lace. >> liz, real quick.

>> beyonce, obviously. i agree with sheera. we should have an african-american woman on the bill, it should be beyonce. >> get your beyonce on while we go to break. we'll be right back with bloody sunday, 50 years later. llocation. sure. you seem knowledgeable professional. would you trust me as your financial advisor? i would. i would indeed. well, let's be clear here. i'm actually a dj. [ dance music plays ] [laughs] no way! i have no financial experience at all. that really is you? if they're not a cfp pro you just don't know. find a certified financial planner professional who's thoroughly vetted at letsmakeaplan.org. cfp -- work with the highest standard.

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sga finally tonight, marching forward is what civil rights leaders like john lewis planned to do in selma nearly 50 years ago on march 7th, 1965. >> to dramatize to the nation and to the world that hundreds and thousands of negro citizens of alabama, but particularly here in this area denied the right to vote. >> but they were stopped by state troopers before they got past the edmund pettus bridge.

it became known as bloody sunday. a few days later dr. martin luther king junior addressed the violence. >> there may be some tear gas ahead. i say to you this afternoon that i would rather die on the highways of alabama than make a butchery of my conscience. that courage led to the voting rights act later that year. we've come a long way, but there's a long way to go and many of the challenges remain the same. the nation was shocked by this photo of a police dog attacking a young protester in 1963.

50 years ago later, the justice department found problems with canine units in the ferguson missouri police department. quote -- in every canine bite incident for which racial information is available, the subject was african-american. clearly there's work yet to be done. a new poll shows 51% of americans think only some of the goals of martin luther king and the civil rights movement have been achieved. continuing their work shouldn't be a partisan issue, but unfortunately it is. it's turned into one. 79% of democrats say the voting rights act is still necessary today, while 52% of republicans say it is not. we can't just celebration and commemorate this weekend.

we must continue and challenge. to protect the right to vote. we can't celebration battles fought and won if we are not going to finish the ward of equality protection under the law and equal opportunity the ferguson report shows that we still have a long way to go. thank god, the evident that we can get there is what has happened in the last 50 years. thanks for watching i'm al sharpton. i'll be live in montgomery alabama tomorrow. be sure to catch the director of "selma" tonight, on "the last word" at 10:00 p.m. eastern. "hardball" starts right now. \s. madam secretary, you've got mail. let's play "hardball."