he would have ended up facing execution by the state. and if that's true if that's what determines justice in this country, then it is not justice at all. this has been "all in america: the 11th hour". the rachel maddow show starts now. >> good evening, chris, thank you. thank you at home for joining us this hour. a lot going on in the world tonight. a big show planned. lots of news, but we're waiting right now on a live news event. a press conference due to start right now in los angeles. and it will happen at the southern california golf course where actor harrison ford was in a plane crash just a few hours ago. mr. ford has survived this accident. his son tweeted that he is battered but okay. after crashing his vintage plane on the golf course in venice, california.

it happened just before 2:30 local time so 5:30 p.m. on the east coast. according to the celebrity news website tmz, a witness said that his plane nose dived on to the eighth hole of that golf course. tmz also obtained some audio, which nbc has not authenticated. but they say it is harrison ford radioing back to the control tower where he had taken off in santa monica california. radioing back to the air field from which he had taken off. and telling the control tower there that he was in trouble. if this audio is what it appears to be, the first voice here is harrison ford's. listen. >> an immediate return. >> 1781821 clear to land. >> going to three. >> 1781821 clear to land. >> whatever trouble mr. ford had

with his plane, he did not make it back to the airport as he was requesting there. emergency responders at the golf course say that harrison ford was conscious when they reached him in the wreckage. he is now in a local hospital with moderate injuries. as i say tonight we are awaiting a press conference from that golf course. we're going to bring that to you live when we get it. i think it is just about to start. can we go -- let's see. are we able to go live to that shot now? all right, i think we're going -- the press conference is just starting, we're trying to get that shot back. let's go to it now. >> and the ntsb will speak to the incident itself and that will be from that end. at approximately 2:30 p.m., the los angeles fire department received a 911 phone call of a

plane crash. paramedics arrived on scene and found a single engine plane that had crashed and had one man, 70 years old, single occupant plane. on scene were the resources from the santa monica fire department. the police department, the ntsb, nta, and others. they rendered first aid to the person. he had injuries and they were able to initiate ware, spinal mobilization, and transport him to a local hospital where he was in moderate condition. there was no fire. no evidence of fire. we checked the area for any other hazardses, there's a small

debris field here where the plane landed. other than that the fire department and resources will maintain here throughout the night and assist with the other agencies involved. like i say, our resources arrived on scene and transported one 70-year-old male of course pan the to the local hospital. he's in moderate to stable condition at this time. with that i'd like to bring up the representative from the ntsb. >> good afternoon, my name is patrick jones, i'm an investigator with the ntsb. the first and most important thing is that we have had injuries and we hope that the family and pilot all recover in a rapid period of time. approximately 14:20 this afternoon, there was a ryan aircraft, a vintage aircraft taking off from santa monica. the pilot reported a loss of

engine power and was attempting to return to the runway. it appears that he clipped the top of a tree and came to rest on the golf course. as the chief said there was only one person on board who was treat ed treated by witnesses, and transported to the hospital. at this time, the ntsb has started an investigation with the faa in attendance and our goal is to, tonight, is do some on scene documentation. we will ultimately recover the aircraft tomorrow morning. to a local facility, and continue the investigation. and our process is kind of a slow process. and i'm sure that there is going to be some questions about what

caused this, and what is that and if we solved it. at this point in time, it is the very beginning of an investigation. it takes us a long time because we want to get it right. so i will not answer any questions that have anything to do with causation at this point. >> mr. jones -- >> the pilot -- can you talk about a situation like this and a pilot surviving -- was this pilot very lucky? >> most accidents -- there are about 2,000 accidents a year. absolutely a pilot, any time a human being is involved in an accident is a lucky individual. having said that there are over 2,000 accidents a year nationwide that involve varying levels of injuries to -- none to

fatalities. the -- it is unusual for pilots to lose their lives because aviation is a pretty safe operation. but there are events that it happens. as i said, any time someone can get out of any type of accident, a car or whatever -- >> mr. jones, do you characterize this as it appeared that the pilot did everything by the book and this was a textbook emergency landing based on what you see here? >> i'm not even -- you're talking where you're asking me to analyze something. >> let me rephrase it. based on what you have seen so far, the lane is right side up, fairly intact, it was done in a remote area, does it appear it

is done by the book? >> i would say any time a pilot survives an accident, or in any case, that that was a good thing. >> can you specify on his injuries? >> i cannot. all i know is what the fire department has told me. we have not been in touch with anybody at the hospital and that is -- we believe that he is going to survive. >> you said that it appeared that this pilot left santa monica airport, took off, and then did he circle back around in an attempt to come back to the runway? >> i'm responding to the information of the atc tapes that apparently have already been played, because that's where i heard it from. the pilot reported a loss of engine power and was attempting to return. >> mr. jones, can you confirm or deny if it was harrison ford on that plane? >> next question.

>> how come there was no fire? was there a fuel issue here? >> that requires speculation that i can't make at this point. >> do you know how much time elapsed -- >> the. >> 40,000 people a year die in automobile accidents every year on the highway. and when there is an accident that somebody doesn't die in, you don't get that question. so don't know at this point. >> how could do have lost power? >> flying in an aircraft, it all takes experience. this pilot is an experienced pilot. and i'll say -- >> what is the procedure for

investigating it? it doesn't have a black box? where do you start? >> the question was this aircraft does not have a black box, no. it is an old vintage aircraft. there are many that do not have what you refer to as a black box nor are they required to have a black box. the problem is that we investigated accidents for decades, and it has only been in the last few that black boxes actually exist. so we go back to the basics. the initial report was a loss of engine power. we're going to look at that and we're going to look at everything. >> why do pilots always recommend not to turn around. the procedure is not making a u-turn. i don't have any clue. >> a return to airport depends on what altitude you're at. i don't know what altitude this pilot was at at the time that he chose to do that. so i have no way of knowing whether that was a good thing or

a bad thing. if you're going to slam into a wall, maybe turning away is your only option. >> how difficult is it to pinpoint an area like this -- >> i'm sure the pilot was glad there was a golf course here. >> have you had more incidents than normal? >> no, there are -- and i know that is a local issue, but -- this area is a very important airport, and there is a lot of business that comes in and out of this airport. i don't know when the last accident was here, but i don't think it is -- flying is safe when done right. >> do we know where the plane was headed -- >> i know it is expected a day or two, can you give us a figure

of the estimates of how long in could take? >> it normally takes a few months and normally a final report we try to get done within a year. >> he asked where the plane was headed, do not know. >> i will say this one more time. any time a human being is involved in an accident. a car, jet, airplane, or otherwise and survives, it's a good day. >> do we know where the plane was headed? >> do not have that information. do i not know where the plane was headed. >> do you know how much time elapsed between when he took off and when -- >> that is data we will capture,

but at this time i do not know. >> maybe you said this and i was not listening. >> the question was whether this was -- my understanding is, and all i know is that i heard the atc recording on the news, and the pilot reported that he had an engine failure and he was returning to the airport. >> in your experience -- >> it's not immediate at this point. >> from your experience, he was taking off, but from the distance, from the airport to here, how high, what do you think the altitude was? >> i will not speculate on that. >> how far was he from the landing, where the crash occurred? >> the airport is right over there, it's 100 yards or 200, 300 yards, somewhere in that. i do not know how far away the

run way is -- >> one more question, please. one more question. >> i think -- i will say that this pilot is an experienced pilot, and -- >> the final question there, just lost the feed from that live conference at a golf course in southern california, where local officials and an ntsb investigator you just saw speaking there were taking questions from reporters about a plane crash involving 72-year-old actor harrison ford. he said i'm sure the pilot was glad there was a golf course here. what we know here is the ntsb and faa are on the scene joining local police emt and

firefighters that were called to this crash. harrison ford has survived and is in the hospital. paramedics initiated care. the plane is not your typical american air transport plane. this is a vintage world ward two training plane that he was piloting himself. there was nobody else on board. we're told this is a ryan aeronautical st-3kr plane. you can see from the markings that it is a vintage aircraft. apparently he was attempting to return from the santa monica airport where he had just taken off when he radioed back engine trouble. he took off, said he wanted to come back, was not able to get back. got relatively close. this is contiguous with the

santa monica airport. apparently according to eyewitnesss, harrison ford's plane clipped the top of some trees, clipped some tree branches on its way down. according to eyewitnesss, basically nosedived on the eighth hole at the golf course. at this point the ntsb says they will recover this aircraft from the golf course tomorrow mourning. harrison ford was injured, he is being treated at a local hospital for his injuries. one interesting thing is that because this is a vintage aircraft, they just noted there is nothing like a black box. there is no safety or investigatory equipment. that won't be part of the investigation, but they expect it to be out there overnight. harrison ford has been flying himself for a very long time. he has done a lot of interviews

over the years about how much he enjoys being able to fly himself and fly in small aircraft. he's flown a lot of different kinds of them. in 1999, i believe it was, i may not be exactly right on that date, but in the '90s he was involved in another crash that was a helicopter crash. it was 1999. he was in a helicopter crash along with a flight instructor for that helicopter and came down in what again was a very scary hard landing in southern california. he was able to walk away from that crash in 1999. he was treated at the hospital after this crash tonight. for more on what's happening here and what we know about the crash and the actor's condition, we're going to go to andrew branchstein who has been following this story all day long as it's unfolded. thanks for joining us. i know there is some conflicting reports about what happened

here. can you sum up what we know for sure at this point? >> sure, in terms of the flight taking off, the vintage plane, there was engine trouble, he tried to return and landed in the -- put the lane down at the golf course just west of the airport. one thing you did get the flavor of in the press conference, and the residential neighborhood around the airport. there has been small plane that's have crashed there. it is a source of controversy having that airport close to the residential areas. if you pan out, you see a lot of homes, it is very dense it has been an issue for some time. as you said there was the

previous crash and it was 1999 with a hard landing of a real helicopter. it speaks to the amount of time harrison's been flying. if this is a mechanical failure, it speaks a little bit to a little luck as well as skill given the homes around there. >> andrew, just one clarifying question. it seems to me the ntsb was implying that where they're at in the golf course is basically contiguous with the airport. that the runway is several hundred yards away, if that. is that accurate to scribe that he may have been very close to making it back. >> it is a dog leg, it's not a straight shot, but it's very close. i don't want to use nonpilot terms, you can turn and land. so it was very close, but again, we had, and i covered planes that have gone down in those residential areas.

and depending on what the problem with the plane is, say you don't have that ability to get it over the golf course, it is a real danger and a source of controversy. >> thank you. really clarifying really helpful. thanks. so scary close call for the actor tonight. he is injured but it is not life threatening at this point. it is striking to see that beautiful vintage aircraft. given the close residential neighborhood, we'll continue to monitor developments in l.a., we'll bring you any new ones as we get them. please stay with us, lots going on tonight.

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big storm to his our nation's capital, a congresswoman asked the u.s. capital police to please suspend the no sledding rule for capitol hill in washington dc. please suspend the no sledding rule to give d.c. kids a place to have fun in the snowstorm. they responded by saying no. that storm that hit dc and a third of the rest of the country today was even bigger than the one a couple weeks ago. for which she got turned down. but undaunted, again, yesterday, she formally requested, again, please, come on, please allow our kids to sled at capitol hill. capitol police once again said no. and this time washington, d.c., responded by going pffft to the washington, d.c., police. look, look, look.

by the magic of go pro, we know this child today is breaking the law. he is about to break the law. look at the little lawbreaker. he is breaking the law. the capitol police said people were not allowed to do this today, but yes! when elinor holmes norton sent that request to the cops asking for special permission to said they wrote back a big long public response saying no the capitol hill is not your traditional neighborhood hill or playground. there is a prohibition against sledding and other activities on the grounds. at least 20,000 sledding injuries happen every year. capital police even showed up today on capitol hill handing out written copyies of the regulation. no person shall coast or sled on

capitol grounds. but the anti-sledding, well meaning individuals today were no match nor the local people who decided, darn the rules, they were going to sled anyway. capitol hill really is the best hill in the whole city. the west lawn that's the best it gets in d.c. on twitter and facebook via this change.org petition there was a groundup ground swell, sled free or die today in washington. sledding is not a crime. let my people sled. and heaven forgive the politician that tries to turn this into a partisan statement. god forgive the first idiot that tries to use this to make a point about how right he is and how bad the other guys are.

don't politicize this. what happened today was an honest to goodness outbreak of super fun, super chilly polite civil disobedience. look at that, it's awesome. and i'm sure the capitol police are right. lots of people get injuries every year. part of the reason why it's fun is because it's very slightly dangerous. the only people falling down today on the west lawn of the capitol, the only people seen falling and complaining were the reporters that turned up to cover the sled in. so behold, fun was have today. illegal fun today was had in washington dc. this snowstorm today affected a giant swath of the country. about 400 million people were affected by this storm it has very slowly crawled up the eastern seaboard. this morning, the storm led to this unnerving site.

you have seen these images today. it is a delta md-88 with passengers and crew on board. it slid off the main runway at laguardia in new york city. after it landed the flight was coming in from atlanta. it came down safely on the runway, but there was a pretty good buildup of snow on the runway, the pilots lost control of the plane after they put it on the ground and the plane ended up skidding off the runway at pretty good speed. it crashed over that big snow berm you see on the side through the chainlink fence. the plane did come very very close to continuing to slide. and had it slid much further, it would have slid into water, into the icy waters of flushing bay. look how close it was to the water.

flushing bay queens. in case those images taken from outside the plane aren't scary enough. this is the view from inside the plane, through one of the plane's windows, this was taken by one of the passengers on the plane. he wrote, two more seconds we would have been in the water. welcome to new york. it's super annoying that whenever there is bad weather flights get cancelled everywhere? this is the reason why flights get cancelled because of bad weather. thankfully no one was seriously injured or killed about two dozen people reported minor injuries, a couple people went to the hospital. members of the ntsb travelled to the scene of the crash to investigate what happened. but it could have been much, much worse. meanwhile, this was the day much of the day on i-65 in kentucky outside of louisville. both of those interstates became absolutely paralyzed today with

heavy snowfall that has stranded hundreds of people for hours on those interstates. the stranding starting on i-65 when some full size tractor trailers could not make it up an incline on the interstate. these large trucks got stuck in the lanes. some jackknifed. ultimately a state of emergency was declared and had to call in the national guard to start digging out the trucks that were stuck and rescuing people that were stuck in their cars on those roads. in some cases stuck overnight from last night. now kentucky officials like everybody didn't know this storm was coming. they may not have known it was going to be this big. it was some of the worst of the strandings. and that is hard to keep up with in a place like boston or maine, right? meanwhile, as basically a third

of the country dealt with one of the largest storms of the year, today we also had, simultaneously, this disaster. look at that. erupt right on the state line between illinois and iowa in is just outside of a town called galena, illinois. this is another oil train that derailed and gone up in flames. it derailed, some of the tanker cars on this train derailed and caught fire. this was a entire train of oil cars. some of them as you can see exploded. we have been watching coverage, the smoke you can see burning for miles. we have been watching this through the local nbc affiliate.

we have also been watching through the local paper, the coverage at the local paper, the dubuque. apparently this derailment happened about 1:20 this afternoon. they run along the mississippi river. this train was all oil, 105 cars, 103 of which were carrying crude oil. we don't know much about the type of oil, where it was coming from, where it was going to, or what kind of oil train or tanker cars these were. it derailed about 1:20. in five minutes the galena firefighters were there. they were there on site within a half hour trying to put out the flames, but the firefighters had to pull back. by 3:20 they pulled back and left the scene. the captain saying because of the intensity of the fire, that local firefighters had to make a tactical decision to leave and

they have now decided that what they're going to do with this oil train derailment is let these cars burn itself out. they don't have any other options. the local captain telling the paper that they had to evacuate quickly, and they left, they left behind all of the equipment they brought out there. we left about $10,000 worth of equipment behind. we can replace equipment, not manpower. so again, a 100 car oil train caught fire near galena, illinois. we do not know how many cars have derailed and how many caught fire. we also do not know when the fires will be out, and what the plan is for putting them out. this is a national problem. as we saw in the last train derainment of a train in west virginia. there is just not many options

for putting these fires out. people call them bomb trains for a reason. that oil train derailment a few weeks ago was left to burn for days. as to what will happen tonight in northwest, illinois, let's go live to a local reporter to find out the latest news. joining us is kwqc's mark stevens. he is out in illinois right now as close as he can get. thank you for joining us, appreciate having you here. >> you're welcome. >> the latest thing i heard is that we heard that evacuations are under way in the local area tonight, have you heard anything about that? >> yes, there was a one-mile evacuation put into effect. it was about six homes in that area. we're not sure if any of those people were at home, so we don't know if they had to get out of there or if they just weren't allowed to go ak this evening. we're still waiting for more

information. they're going to have a press conference in about 20 minutes. hopefully with plenty more information from the railroad as well. >> mark, how close have you been able to get and what have you been able to see over the course of the day? >> the closest we were able to get was on the iowa side of the river. where this is at is rather remote. it is about four miles south of galena near the river. from the iowa side, we could not see the tracks because there is a lot of trees, it's part of the upper mississippi wildlife refuge. we saw the huge plume of black smoke. while we were getting video, we did see one of the big explosions that you saw on the west virginia crash that was just amazing video. we didn't expect to see anything like that. we knew that one car had been on fire, and my sources are telling me there was at least another tank car on that one.

we don't know how many have caught fire. >> sorry, do you know if there is oil in the river or risk this could turn into a mississippi river spill? >> that we're not sure of. we did overhear firefighters talking about booms being placed. that would most likely be in the galena river. the river is iced over. we had a train derailment in the last couple weeks that spilled ethanol, and they were able to recover most of it off of the ice. >> kwqc mark stevens, we appreciate your time. >> we're apparently swamped with developing stories here tonight, more to come, stay with us, more aide.

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well. and that went along for a century or so unrivaled by any other nation on earth. but then we killed it dead on purpose. prohibition turned 95 this year. it holds this weird, unique place in american history. it's something that all of us, democrat and republican, young and old, drinker and teetotaler alike, we all agree that it was a terrible idea. it was a terrible idea for all the obvious policy reasons, but it was also a bad idea because it didn't stop us from drinking as a country. it just absolutely ruined the good way that we used to drink. until that point, we were pretty good at it. when booze became illegal, booze willing became terrible. it was all black market, including stuff that people distilled in their basements. so this great american cultural art form of how to drink devolved into workarounds of this bad policy which we made booze illegal and often

disgusting. so really strong mixers were added to cover up the taste of terrible liquor. the art of mixing drinks instead became the palate muscling effort to get you drunk without tasting what it was that was getting you. leading the world in fine drinking. teaching the world how to drink got lost. got way layed for 13 years, and it caused us to forget not just the recipes of good old drinks but the skills and techniques to make them and what we had been great at in the 20th century, we got terrible at as a country. for decades and decades and decades. and then in the 21st century, something happened and all of a sudden it got way better real fast. there was a guy who figured out it might be possible to restart that old awesome best in the world history we had.

the history that had been so rudely interrupted by terrible politics and terrible public policy. more than anyone else a guy named david wundrich dug up and pieced together the history of cocktail making. it meant figuring out what was important about those drinks and how and why they worked and how they evolved from each other. this isn't just nostalgia, he's a serious historian that recognized that an american art form had been interrupted in its prime. and it would take serious painstaking work to revive it because of his research and books and magazine writing, and the way he has travelled the country now teaching aspiring bartenders who want to learn the old ways now because of him, more than because of anybody else, we are in the midst of a national renaissance, something that we by right own as a country.

and once again we are the best in the world. all over this country you can find this american cultural art form back in the swing, properly done with an understanding of the history that earned us this inheritance. even if you don't drink, the change that has happened over the past decade or so is a big cultural change in this country. it's literally a cultural revival of a lost american art that has been reclaimed and is now thriving i feel genuinely patriotic about this not just because i'm a semipro drinker, we used to be the best in the world at this one thing. and we lost it for a very long time. and through deliberate effort we are now once again the best in the world. i think in large part we have the genius of david wundrich to thank for that. his award winning book imbibe is coming up next month. it's very nice to see you. >> so nice to be here. >> let me ask you, i'm sure i

got some of that history wrong. >> you got all the history right. i'm just -- there's so many people that pushed the revival forward. >> you don't have to accept the compliment part of it. >> i work with a lot of bartenders, and they tend to be pretty down-to-earth. >> and a lot of people are doing great work, but something i believe, and the reason i think that you are sort of a cultural genius for what you've done, i believe the revival could not have had the staying power that it has had, and could not have had -- not just the legs but the integrity it's had, without you taking the history very, very seriously. other people who tried to unearth that history but had been a little cavalier about it. did you recognize you needed to get the details right to make it stick? >> yeah, but i had training. i was an english professor and i before that was in graduate school, and i studied under an actual genius who was a

classicist. he knew everything about everything in the world, astro physics. anything that came up, he knew it all. and so just to listen to him talk would blow your mind. but he always taught me that you have to go down to the finest level of detail. and if you get down to that detail every tiniest detail is tied in the whole larger meaning of a piece. nothing is accidental. in the real world we know stuff is accidental. but you're not going to know what is accidental unless you treat it all important. >> unless you recognize where it starts. >> exactly. so for me going through the history of these cocktails. and i would go through the bartenders guides and look at the measurements and ingredients and draw graphs and charts and time lines, it's a lot of work. but eventually you start to see patterns and then it starts to get clear. once you get these patterns you can put in like who invented this cocktail in this year you see the stories that you -- you

say, it con the have happened because that ingredient nobody was using back then. they weren't usingeing grenadine in 1870. if not impossible it was very unlikely. that kind of work takes a little bit of training i think, to do it. most people who do history drinks started out as bartenders and became wonderful bartenders and they had a good gift of gab, they didn't really have academic training. i was willing to take my fancy academic training and turn it to good rather than evil. i was able to -- it gave me a little bit of a leg up when it came to dealing with this massive data. >> did you get insight into doing that? why is it an american thing? >> america, we were on our own. we had king george the third, we shook him off, nobody could tell us what to do. some people took that very

seriously, which meant they could go and drop a quarter on a cocktail, which is a lot of money back then and nobody would say boo. nobody could tell them what to do, there was this whole streak of american liberty which we've come to the end of is that liberty means you can't tell me anything. there was the other side that brought us prohibition, liberty means we can all get rich as long as everyone plays by the rules up to a point. and screw the people who are getting rich. >> nobody else was in the political position we were in at the time. >> we were free and we had people from all cultures coming in. we had french people bringing us the best brandy. germans coming in who liked to build these fancy fruit cups and we took from that. we'll take some of this make a mint julep and a dash of rum

just floating on top. it was fantasy land and you had consumers who dug it. because it was rock 'n' roll. it was taking the european way and making it just spectacular, which has always been the american way. we take a simple thing and we turn it into just a spectacle. >> david wondrich, writer, cocktail historian and to my mind genius imbibe coming out in its revised edition soon. great to have you here. >> thank you. >> there may be more about this on maddowblog.com. i'm just saying. he first thing he does? the tobin stance spring is in the air and pollen, dog hair... the sunshine looks like fairy dust. (doorbell) whoa! what's this? swiffer sweeper! swiffer dusters! removes up to 70% of dust and allergens. stays on there like glue wow! look at that! ew! the tobin stance! that is totally what it is!

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