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now, we could be talking about the ferguson pd as a success story. before we go i want to wish a happy 6th birthday to my daughter. have a great day. thanks for watching. alex wagner is up next. two harrowing tales of flights gone wrong nearly one year after the mysterious disappearance of mh-170. >> oh, no. >> 72-year-old actor harrison ford. >> battered but okay. >> it was a very close call. >> first responders say it is a miracle that ford survived. >> what went wrong on the runway? >> this is the first full day of
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investigation. >> skidded off the runway in new york city. >> stopping just short of frigid flushing bay. >> laguardia is a tricky landing. we are following developments in two dramatic aviation stories today, both coming days before we mark a year of the disappearance of malaysian airlines flight 170. we begin with actor and aviation enthusiast harrison ford who remains hospitalized today after he crash landed a vintage world war ii single engine plane on a golf course yesterday afternoon. they're working to move that plane off the golf course and determine what happened. ford reported engine failure to air traffic control.
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>> engine failure with immediate return. >> ryan 178 runway 2 clear to land. >> ford failed to reach the runway. bystanders caught video of the plane as it glided to its dramatic descent. >> i hope he's going to make it. >> oh man. oh man. [ bleep ]. oh no. >> come on dude. >> no one on the ground was injured. investigators said that today ford's choice of landing spot was key. >> when you take off from an airport and you need to return to that airport or you need to land an aircraft you have to pick the best spots that there are and this was apparently the best spot. >> ford's son ben tweeted that the actor is battered but okay. he's expected to make a full recovery.
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joining me now is anthony roman and an aviation journalist, jeff wise. thank you for joining me guys. tell us what it was like as someone who understands how planes work and how a situation like this might have unfolded. harrison ford in the cockpit, what he's seeing and doing? >> poor harrison ford. he experienced the worst kind of engine failure any pilot could have experienced at the worst possible moment. he was bankrupt of altitude and air speed, the two things you need to get back to the runway or to make a safe landing. the fact that he was able to reverse the direction of the aircraft, identify an emergency field when he knew he couldn't make the airport, and given that the entire area surrounding that golf course was densely populate populated, what he accomplished
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was nothing short of remarkable. >> to your book when someone is scared like that when all of your sort of survival instincts are kicking in and you're getting the emergency like hazard lights in your mind, tell us a little bit about that sort of biological process of getting from that kind of fear and terror to rational reasonable astute sort of strategy in terms of how to land a plane. >> that's how the book really kicked off. i was undergoing pilot training. i find myself in this situation thinking if something bad happened to me now, i wouldn't be able to put this plane on the ground. it almost feels like your brain is being shut down. it is hard to think creatively and keep your writsits about you. the answer is training. if you do this over and over and over again, it becomes muscle memory.
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sullenburger landed a plane in the hudson river. he was a glider pilot who was an expert in aviation safety. harrison ford, he loves planes and a good stick and rudder guy. he saw the potential for a landing strip on a golf course. he just instinctually knew what to do. he knew what the sight picture was going to be to line up for that landing. this is a world war ii plane that was designed to land on grass. >> it had wooden propellers is. is that right, anthony? >> that's pretty common. this was not an old airplane. this was remanufactured to like new conditions. we're talking about a wonderful aircraft, a training aircraft but not the easiest airplane in
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the world to fly because it was made before the 1950s to a different certification standard, and those wings are rather straight. modern training aircraft have a dyhedral. it kind of baby carriages the fuselage. >> then again he landed the millennium falcon at one point, so clearly he's a skilled aviation man. we're getting a closer look at the incident at laguardia airport yesterday. it narrowly escaped a plunge into frigid waters. landing at laguardia is a difficult thing to do in any circumstances. how much do you think this situation prompts a sort of revisitation as far as the dangers that are -- the institutional dangers of landing
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at laguardia? >> landing at laguardia under the best of circumstances is sporting. the reason it's sporting is because it is encroached by a very dense urban area similar to what harrison ford en encountered. the runway is 7,000 feet. the average runway for an airport is 10,000 feet. you need 4500 feet to land and stop and begin the taxi phase to the terminal. there were two fundamental factors going on here that really played against them. one, the runway was contaminated with snow and ice. breaking action although reported as good could have changed rapidly. so they could have hit an icy spot. what we have experienced is a
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portion of the runway maybe clear, a portion of the runway may have ice on it so they could have hit some of these icy patches. second and most important, they had a tail wind on land. it makes it go faster. the faster you're going, the longer it takes to stop, so it wasn't perfect. >> there are theories about what happened at laguardia, but those theories in number and sort of scope are drastically different than the number of theories and the scope of theories around mh-370. it lost contact with air traffic control one year ago this sunday. no trace has been found of that aircraft, despite a month's long multinational search costing tens of millions of dollars. in the absence of evidence theories abound. a list ranges from the reasonable to the paranoid. it is in pakistan for terrorist
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purposes. to the bizarre, it was abducted by aliens. i got that copy of "new york magazine" and i read your theory. i sat down on the couch and devoured it. give us, if you can, the sort of like synopsis of what you think happened to the plane. >> the short version -- if you want to read the long version, i have a podcast out called "the plane that wasn't there." they have searched the seabed. there's nothing there so far. they could find it there tomorrow for all we know. the signals indicate the plane went south. is there any way those numbers could be wrong? 777s have an electronics bay that is accessible. it is physically conceivable
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that a very sophisticated operator could get in there and plug in something that could spoof the signal. is it physically possible that it could happen? if part of the signal could have been spoofed. part of it couldn't. the mathematics takes you up to kazakhstan. i identified a runway that was particularly intriguing to me. >> and would have been on the flight path if it mapped north instead of south. >> yes. i find it interesting there were two russians on board that are sitting next to this hatch. i had done some research last year hiring translaters to look into these guys. it is intriguing. just a theory. some people think it is a little crazy. i think it is a little crazy too, but at this point the
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mystery is so baffling. >> tony, in terms of the tens of millions that have been spent, the more money you spend, the closer do you get to the crash site to any kind of evidence of what happened? if nothing is found in may, more money and resources should be spent on this -- >> there's no question it is a viable theory. being investigators, we have to keep all viable options open. yet that's a viable theory but the real problem here is the circumstances. all of the electronics were shut off. in the case of air france in the southern atlantic, we knew exactly where that plane went down and it still took a year to recover the aircraft. here we have a search area of 24,000 square miles. we're semiguessing with new
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technology as to where it may be. we just finished mapping topography, which is like the rocky mountains. >> thank you, guys, both for your time and thoughts. coming up half a century after bloody sunday in selma, voting rights are still in jeopardy. germany passes a law requiring more women in leadership positions whereas at capitol hill the opposite is happening. just knew it was for her. so i tried to get her on video chat. i'm on verizon. i... i'm not. so it's not a problem. my video chat isn't working so i try to send photos but even that doesn't work. she saw the granite counters and the fire pit she went nuts. so i'm trying really hard to describe it but words are not my thing. that was all it took. i mean what do you want, i'm a realtor,
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church. this march will not continue. is that clear to you? i've got nothing further to say to you. >> that was the scene in selma, alabama, almost 50 years ago on what is now known as blood sunday. this weekend president obama and thousands of others will travel to selma to mark the 50th anniversary of that march. this anniversary comes as the very right of the right to vote continues to be threatened. 21 states have adopted new voting restrictions. 40 new voting restrictions were introduced across 17 different states. it was just two days ago the justice department concluded the ferguson police department showed racial bias and routinely violates the constitutional
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rights of black residents. joining me now is joy reed and former executive director of the white house office, joshua dubois. joy, let me get your thoughts on how the community in selma is reacting. there are no republican members of congress that are traveling down to selma to commemorate this moment. >> i should say there are no senior republican leadership. tim scott, who is the junior senator from south carolina was one of the people who was pushing to get more republicans to come down. to your point, none of the republican leadership will attend. no john boehner, no mitch mcconnell. there's a fair amount of disappointment that has been expressed that the republican party didn't try to take this opportunity. we know the story of steve
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scaleez. he was being pushed to come. the streets are fairly run over with cars. this community is bulked up with people who have come from all over the country to be a part of this commemoration. i think the republicans, most people would say, missed an opportunity. >> i think it's also interesting, joshua that tim scott, as joy mentioned he's one of the faces of the gop's effort on selma, has said that discussions about politics and voting rights should be decoupled from what's going on in selma. what's your reaction to that given the state of affairs as it pertains to voting right efforts and voter restriction efforts in the united states? >> i have the greatest respect for senator scott, but i have to
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imagine when others of the bygone giants of that era heard him say that were rolling in their graves. selma can't just become a commemoration. it's meant to be a mobilization. it's supposed to be a moment where people take stock of issues that our country is still facing. they walked across the bridge to give us a template for how things should change in our country. >> prompts a revisitation of selma. the population of selma in the 1960s was 50% black. today it is 80% black. the public school system was 55% white in 1965.
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today it is 2% white. racial mingling is happening more and more infrequently. >> yeah, absolutely. i just came from the jackson house, which was the home where martin luther king jr. and ralph bunch stayed while they were planning the events in selma. the house where they took the phone calls back and forth from lyndon johnson while they were discussing the logistics and using that march to move politics in the united states congress. one of the poignant moments was talking to the owner of the home and a white woman who came all the way from san francisco, california, to be part of a multiracial movement. she said at the time there were white members of the selma community who were quietly or bravely on their side. there was a multiracial aspect to the movement in selma that doesn't get as much play but it did exist.
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now you have a city essentially that has been handed over to the black residents but not with the same levels of services or political power that you would expect for a group of people who used the selma moment to rise. it is a depressing aspect of it in that sense. >> joshua we have a doj report from earlier this week. darren wilson was cleared of possible civil rights violations, and i wonder how much you think ferguson factors in the anniversary commemoration in selma today as we look at the state of the union. >> it is going to be threaded throughout the anniversary. the speeches will mention ferguson and the issues that ferguson raised about our country. these are very difficult issues. there are issues we must confront. i think that's what selma brings to us. >> thank you both for your time.
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fajitas cannot sue the restaurant chain. peeps flavored milk is only available in the midwest and on the set of this television show where we'll have a taste test. hours ago, vice president joe biden responded to 2016 republican hopeful ben carson's comments that prison proves being gay is a choice. >> every ridiculous assertion from dr. carson on -- i mean jesus, god. oh god. i mean it's kind of hard to fathom, isn't it? but thing about the universal ridicule. that wouldn't have happened two years ago, five years ago. >> with the supreme court set to hear marriage equality arguments, republicans filed an
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a amicus brief. the army must start referring to chelsea manning as a woman and not a man. joining me now is toure and lemieu and mike pesca. toure, this feels like progress. the idea we're talking about transgender rights. is it progress? >> i do think we're seeing progress here. transgenderism is having a moment where folks are saying we have to take these folks seriously. this is the way they want to live their lives. we have to respect them. i am pleased to see chelseywhich he will -- chelsea manning get the
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respect. >> there are an estimated 15,500 transgender people already serving in the military in secret. this, of course reminds me "don't ask, don't tell" is the next wall to fall. >> it does seem actually very high. it may be too high. i'm not sure where the stat comes from. >> the williams institute. >> this to me is a simple matter of kindness etiquette, politeness. you call somebody by what they want to be called. a pronoun, it's a pronoun. wesley college, that's a fine choice by them. if the board wants to change also note there's an undercurrent of women's colleges really on hard times. sweet briar college closed down. >> that's right. this week. >> women colleges have to be a little more progressive and have
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to do whatever it takes to make their gates attractive to the people, any potential student. >> once one sort of progressive liberal arts college does it, it sets a stage. >> it'll only come up at a women's college. >> that is a fair point. >> there is a transgender basketball player at sbw. >> and the clock turns on. an appellate court ruled this week that a man burned by fajitas while dining at applebee's can't sue the chain. i feel bad for the guy, but everybody knows they come on a sizzling plate. >> there was a mcdonald's lawsuit in the 90s. she was the one person who could sue for getting burned by something we all know that was
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hot. >> the woman was a 75-year-old settled for less than $35,000. we have coffee cups that say caution, beverage inside is hot. >> they always say careful, it's hot. i know this. there's got to be some level of common sense here. the hot coffee will be hot. the fajitas will be hot. >> an applebee's entree is prudent. he was praying over it. >> it brought him closer to the sizzling hot plate when grease splattered up and hit him in the face. >> what did you think it was
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maybe is someone who will be going away soon. >> yes, maybe. for as long as twitter world will hold her, she'll stay on it. tokyo is considering changes to its strict 45 decibel noise limit in suburban residential areas. for those who are not sonic geniuses and have been exposed to the sound board as you have i know, toure, for much time in the lab, that is the level allowed in a library. this is a limit that the city of tokyo has in residential areas that covers parks, places where kids play. there's a whole sort of idea that the voices of tokyo children will finally be heard. i find it amazing that this has been in place and we have not known. can you imagine? you have children. >> yeah. >> keeping them at library voices at all times outdoors. >> that's impossible.
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if i stayed, i'd get high again. >> make that a recovering ego addict. >> are you going to check twitter after this interview areas? >> i will not check twitter. but i will check "the mirror," the original twitter. lucky that i had parents who do everything. i was kind of a tomboy -- >> i can't even write like a smart witty character. >> that was so weird. that was judd aptow with carol king's voice. that was so weird. the full special will air tomorrow on msnbc. okay, we have the correct sound. >> the actual special won't be nearly as meta or surreal. >> joining me now is ronan
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farrow. i think we have the correct sound, so let's listen to it. >> let's do it. >> i'm not a genius. i'm actually not even that smart, that's why everyone is stoned and doesn't say big words in my movies because i can't write a smart witty character. >> now that we have played that let's go back to the first clip with john mayer talking about john mayer. i love john mayer's music. i think he is a genius. i find the interview fascinate fascinating. >> he was interesting. >> it is kanye west -- >> he is the musical onion. >> he is the nucleus. it felt like one giant humble brag. do you think he has reconciled with fame or is it this 12-step process? >> does the audience know about
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your music hipster cred? >> nobody thinks i have hipster cred. >> she gave kanye's his first cover. >> i was on the staff of a magazine that give kanye his first cover. >> you know music and you know john mayer is a real musician. at his heart, that is what he is. that is what he cares about. he is a guitar prodigy. he can play with ed sheeran without missing a beat. maybe a little self-reflective about it or a lot self-reflective about it. >> there's a congratulatory aspect. i applaud him for knowing that fame is toxic and sort of putting the battle front and center. >> it is out there front and
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center. he is very transparent. maybe even too a fault. there are people who respond the way you did, but very very honest in this interview. that was just the tip of the iceberg what we heard. he's pouring it into new music. hopefully that will be the focus and not the surrounding stuff. >> you also talked with judd aptow. >> another person navigating fame not just for him but his whole family. >> he said basically it wasn't an issue whether he was going to put his kids in films. the real issue is when you expose them to really funny people the rest of their lives are weird. if you spend all day with seth rogen, your friends aren't as funny. >> you don't always make the choice on that. for someone like judd who is
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really smart, fundamentally a rel well adjusted person, he didn't have fame thrust upon him. he doesn't have a sense for, oh this can destroy people. he actually has a healthier attitude. it is not for me to judge of this is a wonderful opportunity. this is great world. wouldn't it be great if my kids have a shot at it? >> maude should be hosting the show. >> all the shows. >> we're going to cut this short now. >> that's another theme in this. all of these are people who have navigating the ups and downs and the changing landscapes. judd, he has been cancelled by every network and add allhad all these triumphs. >> i like the growing, changing definition of genius. you can catch ronan's "7 days of
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genius" special tomorrow at 12:00 p.m. right here on msnbc. >> alex it's a pleasure every time. from the height of human achievement to the depth of human grossness, a fecal time bomb on mountt. everest. that's how we're closing out the show on, today, friday. we used to have so many empty rolls! (cha-ching!) (cha-ching!) (cha-ching!) it felt like we were flushing money away. mom! that's why we switched to charmin ultra mega roll. it's charmin quality and long lasting. with more go's per roll,
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nepal doesn't have a solution to tackle the poop problem yet. joining me now are jordan romero and his father paul romero. jordan, did you know that this was a problem when you summited back in 2010? >> of course i knew that this was a problem even while we were up there climbing ourselves. we obviously did our best -- we packed in and out 100% and did everything that we could to not contribute to this problem. >> paul there's obviously different types of climbers. the fact that garbage and human waste are a problem makes me wonder who are the different types of climbers. clearly a not of people are not packing in and packing out. has this become too much of a tourist destination? >> it is quite a tourist destination, but there's the
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responsibility of the guides and entities to teach and coach the ethics and bring the resources and the bags and bring the protocols. all that you have seen and heard and movies and documentaries, it has improved a lot. we were part of a big cleanup ourselves. we spent a whole day filling our backpacks backpacks. it surprised me how much cleaner it was than i expected. you're meant to haul out your waste now. not everybody does but it is improving. there's some impact up there for sure. >> jordon there's also problems in terms of the sherpas. there's some controversy about the sherpas are trained. can you give us a sense? >> there's always the assumption that sherpas are always up there just kind of hauling gear for people and not as much of a contribution to some teams.
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there is some problems through that although their appreciation cannot go unacknowledged. they are the most kind humble and strongest people that you could ever meet that know these mountains better than anyone else. with our team we had three sherpa guides. between the three of them they had a combined experience of ten everest summits. you know what i mean. >> sherpas risk their lives. that's a huge part of this right? in 16 summits, sherpas died last year. they are in the front lines. >> they are in the front lines, but they are making a choice to be there. this is not slavery. they deserve to be paid perhaps more handsomely but they work hard. they are climbers. they are part of the community. they are the most unbelievable human beings on earth.
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we have a brotherhood with our sherpas now. it is something like you can't believe. >> unfortunately a brotherhood i will never be a part of because i will never make it up there. thank you both. it is all for "now." "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. tonight, the way forward for camp littlehillary. >> we haven't seen hillary on camera yet talking about this. as for the economy, it's cooking. and later -- >> get off my plane. >> harrison ford's real-life drama. >> oh no. oh, no. oh no.
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