evable human beings on earth. we have a brotherhood with our sherpas now. it is something like you can't believe. >> unfortunately a brotherhood i will never be a part of because i will never make it up there. thank you both. it is all for "now." "the ed show" is coming up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. tonight, the way forward for camp littlehillary. >> we haven't seen hillary on camera yet talking about this. as for the economy, it's cooking. and later -- >> get off my plane. >> harrison ford's real-life drama. >> oh no. oh, no. oh no. plus reinventing fire.

>> we claim to have an advanced industrial economy. >> i'm going to continue to fight for the keystone pipeline. >> yet it is run on primeval dinosaur poop. good to have you with us tonight. first the american economy and then the controversy surrounding secretary of state hillary clinton, former. i have to get that right. look, why isn't the economy getting more attention? can we comprehend these numbers? the economy added 295,000 jobs in february. the unemployment rate is sitting at 5.5%. the economy has produced 200,000 jobs a month for a full year.

that's being on a roll. every sector of the economy added jobs except mining. we have got manufacturing. since 2010 that sector has added roughly 800,000 jobs. february jobs reports show it is improving momentum in the u.s. labor market. construction, 29,000. manufacturing, 8,000 jobs. hospitality, 66,000. education and health care. what? health care? you mean obamacare didn't kill any jobs? 54,000 jobs right there. the business service sector added 51,000 jobs. there is a problem and this is what the democrats have been focused on and that is flat wages. the growth rate for the average hourly earnings fell back to 2.2%. in other words, if you go into a car dealer and you want to finance that new rig, they're

probably going to give you 60 months at probably 5%. yeah, i can handle that. that's a long time. 60 months? that's how long the economy has been adding jobs. i got to talk to the former rnc chair about this and get some counseling. michael steele whose economy is this? good to have with us tonight. >> this is obama's economy. the reconciliation that's to come is going to be how do republicans talk about this economy if this job growth continues? i don't see any reason why it shouldn't. look, there's still some issues that need to be addressed. you talked about the wage component. there's still a significant number of americans who are unemployed for the last 18-plus months. we want to see how they get factored back into the economy, but this is good news. you say how come no one is talking about this? how come the obama

administration hasn't been talking about this? >> they have a hard time talking about anything as far as i can see. they have a lot of good stories to tell, but it is almost as if they might offend somebody. this is where we started. this is where we are. what do the republicans do with these numbers? we can say, okay wages are flat, which has to be addressed, no doubt about it. they haven't partaken in this. they haven't been a part of this. fair comment? >> partly fair comment. to the extent they have put the brakes on some of the levels of spending, we went through the whole battle with the shutting down of the government and all of that. we have a sequester that's been put in place that's helped cap some of that spending, particularly in the area of the defense. there are some things republicans can say they helped

put the economy on the path to get the momentum to grow. >> it's going to take almost a train wreck to slow this down. it is not going to slow down overnight. there are no signs out there that says this american economy is going to go into the tank anytime soon. i'm glad you are an honest broker who says this is the obama economy. that stimulus package must have worked. when are the republicans going to get on the train and be a part of this whole thing? stay with us. michael steele with us here on the program. stay with us. hillary clinton, the other story dominating the headlines. she stands by the fact she hasn't broken any laws. the state department is reviewing over 55,000 e-mails from hillary clinton. there could be a problem here. a state department source told "the washington post" clinton using personal e-mail did not break the rules but the review could show personal e-mails that

should be on a secure system. there's a lot to unpack here. there's no way to know if clinton broke any rules until this review is complete. this is what makes it a story. the state department has to cover themselves on this. regardless of all this stuff that's going on the republicans are in the attack mode. they immediately came down with that nasty case of benghazi fever. >> despite some attacks, the revelation secretary clinton uses personal e-mail accounts lays that claim bare. >> house republicans are issued subpoenas subpoenas. republican presidential hopefuls are throwing stones out of a glass house as i see it. let's take scott walker. they released a statement on this story. hillary clinton's potential evasion of laws is something she should answer questions about.

do we have to do a refresher course here? one big problem for walker the john doe investigation still going on. walker allegedly used his personal e-mail and laptops to conduct campaign business on government time while he was the milwaukee county executive. jeb bush he's jumping into the game. he tweeted out transparency matters. unclassified hillary clinton e-mails should be released. you can see mine. no sales job there. clinton groups obviously, have pushed back hard on this story. david brock had this to say. >> i think people are understanding what this is. i think they understand the republicans are desperate. they tip off the newspaper. they get a false story. then you get this entire media complex and you get this explosion of coverage and the truth has a hard time catching up. there was no violation of law here. the e-mails were preserved. i want you to get your cell phones out. tonight's question -- do you

care hillary clinton used her personal e-mail for state department business? text "a" for yes. text "b" for no. you can get my podcast at wegoted.com. abby huntsman with us tonight and john fugelsang and michael steele. michael michael, is this a problem for the state department? >> hillary has to answer some questions. hillary should start by taking that server out of her house and giving it to the state department. the more transparency she can do at this point, the better. actions do matter. >> no more tweets, you mean? >> no more tweets.

just do everything to get this story behind her. what did you write? what's in those e-mails? otherwise this story will live through the summer. >> make it go away. >> speak to the american people about it. forget the tweets. this is so classic clinton. it is the clinton world and we're all just living a part of it. it is how this handled this controversy. >> is it rules or laws? >> in time i think we'll figure that out. but i think there was a law in place in 2009. >> no it was after that. >> she is guilty of doing exactly what condoleezza rice did. >> i think she's too experienced, too savvy, too smart to put sensitive information about the state department -- >> why was her team knowing she was probably going to run for president -- why not back then was her team surrounding not thinking more about this? why not think smartly about this

knowing this could come up? >> she is classic clinton when you look at the press coverage. this is what could go wrong. this is what may might find. they might not. the media attention and the explosion is so out of proportion for a story about an e-mail account, but the press has gone all in. "the washington post" needs to keep it going. this is what we might find. is that news? >> is it benghazi fever? >> the fever to exploit the tragic murder of those four americans will never be cured, ed. david petraeus gave cia secrets to his mistress and is avoiding jail time and this is the big story? this seems like the sort of thing that people who hate her will be outraged about. people who love her will say no

problem. i >> why do we always try to tear people down? we think the negative right away. abby, is this the best thing they have got on hillary right now? >> this is the way it is going to be for the next year and a half. we are responsible for this too. this is what we all talk about. we feed off this. i don't think this is a huge story. >> but don't you think republicans are trying to create the narrative and tire down democrats. you don't want this hillary thing. this is the way it is going to be if she gets elected. >> it feeds into the narrative that people are so sick of that they are above it all. they are frustrated about that. i think they're going to use that to their advantage. >> if americans cared about that dick cheney would be at the hague right now. >> this story is supposed to reenforce how people don't trust

the clintons. she's been voted the most admired woman in america for all these years. >> michael steele, do you think people care about this? i can't wait to see our poll tonight. you better be voting. >> i am. i don't think they do care. i think that this is a lot ado about nothing. >> why do republicans care? if people don't care why do republicans care? >> there are two reasons and both have to do with clintons and republicans. how they handle it, they always handle it the wrong way. they feed the furnace instead of putting the fire out. it completes the narrative of benghazi and rounds it out for them in terms of what the clintons are all about. >> i think benghazi hurts republicans at this point. >> why are they doing the

subpoena thing? >> if you talk about benghazi this committee is not going to spend millions investigating. >> how do you mop it up in you're in the clinton camp? >> you can't. the biggest sin on her part is the sloppyinesssloppiness. >> why is the white house quiet? hillary, everything is fine. just tell us everything is fine. >> it's not fine. >> what about that michael? >> ed to the extent they did step out, they really kind of sounded to throw her under the bus a little bit. josh ernst said these were the rules we put in place and she didn't follow them. this administration is not helping her and she's not helping herself, which is why this story continues to weave. >> i think this story is going to continue no matter what. i think she has handled it well.

she has seen this so many times over the last 20 years, and it's going to play out. these e-mails are going to be reviewed. >> on twitter? >> we're going to be hearing e-mailgate like we heard filegate and travelgate for year after year. >> the country's number one dip diplomat diplomat. she had a lot of responsibility. she went all over the world. you know what kind of communication had to be in there as secretary of state. there has to be concern about security. there's no question about that so why go on twitter, hillary? come out and do a press conference. pull a chris christie for two hours. >> the last time she did that in the benghazi hearings one line was taken out of context and they beat her up with it for two

years. >> she has to get people talking about her qualifications are for the president of the united states. >> i'm going to hack your e-mail tonight and find out what you're thinking. >> next time michael steele and i will be in the same room together. remember to answer that question there at the bottom of the screen. share your thought with us on twitter. like us on facebook. get my podcast. coming up the investigation into harrison ford's crash landing. lester holt joins me in studio. plus, another crack in the bedrock of unions. scott walker gets his way again. it's all coming up with this fight against workers next.

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♪ welcome back to "the ed show." the ntsb is looking into what caused actor harrison ford's plane to crash land. ford's world war ii airplane went down at the pen mar golf course thursday afternoon. >> 53178 -- engine failure. immediate return. >> clear to land. >> he went right below the tree line. you couldn't see him. a couple seconds later it was a crash of crunching metal. >> ford attempted to the return to the airport.

witnesses helped ford out of the plane. he underwent surgery thursday night. the ucla medical center said he suffered a broken pelvis and elbow. he's expected to make a full recovery. honored tonight, we have with us lester holt who has covered a lot of these. what do you make of this? how did he respond? >> he responded the way pilots are trained, although i'm not a pilot. i grew up in a pilot family. one of the first lessons of flying is what if your engines quits in a single engine airplane. telling a student, you just lost an engine. what are you going to do now? they teach them to look for golf courses, you know, football fields, open spaces where you can get the airplane down. airplanes guide.

they are noncome pukom known computations. when you start having to maneuver you're going to lose some altitude and it becomes a little more dicey, but it sounds he clearly saw the golf course and thought that's a suitable place to get a plane down. >> people might be wondering, gosh he was flying a 1942 airplane. that's awfully old, but it's very common isn't it? >> vintage planes are very popular in this country. i used to go to oshgosh. they race vintage planes. they are very popular. you take care of it. you maintain it. they have to be certified to be flied by the faa. training planes typically are a little more forgiving than you know, high-perform airplanes. >> this was a training plane. that's what it was built for? >> it was built for that. i don't know if i would glide

like another plane, for example. i remember covering a guy -- i want to say he was an air traffic -- a radio traffic reporter he put a plane down in the parking lot of a los angeles city college. he said we met before. remember that plane you covered in the los angeles parking lot? that was me. good job. >> if you can be carried away from it in this case you're a lucky guy. you can always repair the airplane. if you're going to lose an engine, it's going to be on takeoff. it find this really interesting. he knew exactly what to do. he communicated looked for the airport. of course, he wasn't going to be able to make it. >> i'm very familiar. i spentd a lot of time in santa

monica. it is a very densely populated area. how many times have we seen planes landing on freeways? i'm in trouble. there's a gap in the cars. i'm going to go for it. he is an accomplished pilot and has certainly well briefed and taught emergency procedures. >> they can only play 17 holes at that golf course for a while instead of 18. he's lucky. all pilots are trained to be able to handle engine failure. you're constantly asking yourself what do i do if the engine -- >> you don't have a lot of altitude. it's one thing to lose it if you're flying along at 15,000 feet. >> he communicated and took the action he did. great to have you with us tonight. >> how many times did i have to

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and we are back. senator robert menendez of new jersey may face corruption charges from the justice department. he'll address the media tonight at 7:00 p.m. today a grand jury document was mistakenly posted to the court website. menendez is under investigation for allegedly trading favors with a florida eye doctor. both the senator and the doctor deny any wrong doing. the federal grand jury in new jersey is still hearing evidence. apple will join the dow jones industrial average. at&t will drop out of the 30 stock group to make why for the

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they say your greatest strength is also your greatest weakness. i'm living proof of that. i can rub people the wrong way or talk when i should listen. i own that but i'm driven to make a difference. >> rahm emanuel clearly desperate to keep his job. emanuel has a reputation for having a short fuse. he's obviously well aware of that. it didn't stop him from allegedly screaming at a mental

health care advocate at a closed door meeting on wednesday. his office denies it but it is these kinds of stories that has given chuy garcia his opponent a bump. he has a narrow 41 to 39 lead over garcia. emanuel is really the first mayor of chicago in the city's history to be forced into a runoff. in february emanuel failed to gather 50% of the vote. on april 7th emanuel will face garcia, who came in second place with 34% of the vote. it was supposed to be a slam dunk for emanuel. he has outraised all the other opponents combined, and of course he has the endorsement of president obama. money can't erase emanuel's

reputation on closing schools or mayor mr. 1one percent. he has declined to be on our program. let's turn to chuy garcia. i don't to overplay this short fuse. i want you to comment on it. is that a factor in this race or is it just media talk? >> people in chicago are tired of it. they want someone who is going to be engaging. someone who will be patient. someone who will be strong but compassionate. that's why we're in a dead heat in spite of the fact we were outspent 12-1. >> is rahm emanuel not compassionate or a heartfelt guy at all? >> no. the school closings are one indication of it. the latest tirade is another

indication of it. you run adds showing you in a nice fluffy sweater in your kitchen saying you also have a good side to you. but when mental health advocates inquire about why you did it and if you'll commit to reopen those health clinics, you come out of the bag. >> what do you think of that commercial? it is almost like he is apologizing. >> it is a little bit too late. people have gotten a chance to see him, to experience him, and to see chicago work for a select few. people in the neighborhoods want change. that's why we forced him into a runoff. there was another very important message sent by voters and that is 19 members of the chicago city council are in runoff elections, so a strong message was sent. people want change in chicago. i think chicago is at a turning point in terms of its politics. >> i want to return to a

reporter for "politico" and jim warren who is a reporter for "the new york daily news." jim, what's the talk on the ground there in chicago? is this going to be close? >> well just to put things in context, if you went on the street right now, you'd have more people talking about the bears ditching their star wide receiver to the jets in a trade. i think it is part in parcel of a passivity that comes to this race that does not bode for rahm emanuel. he's going to need i think a dramatically increased vote total. but that said you know there's some things folks are going to be waiting for from mr. garcia and that's going to include the answer to the question where are you going to come up with the revenue to deal with $1.2 billion in pension payments for unionized firefighters police and teachers.

up to now, mr. garcia has been saying he's studying the issue. >> what does rahm say? >> rahm is a guy who has already raised taxes. as a taxpayer he has jacked up the taxes already. he's dodging that a little bit more, but he's proven he's willing to make the tough, unappealing decision. conventional wisdom would be anybody who unein unequivocally says they know what's going to happen are idiots. >> you talk about the progressive groups lining up to help garcia. is there enough money out there

to bring him over the top? how do you see it? >> you have had progressives and liberals across the country who have loved to complain about rahm emanuel, but they haven't invested real money to take him out. with five weeks left of the run justify runoff, is that going to change? rahm emanuel has some deep pocketed backers across the country. he has the potential for president obama to step in and fund fundraise for him. you are seeing signs this week with poll numbers that maybe chuy gar see ga -- garcia is getting some momentum. >> won't that create a problem for the mayor? >> it is an absolutely complicated matter. in poor african-american neighborhoods there's a looming

question of particular gentleman, is he going to come out after initially saying he would back garcia and seecia and do a 180? a lot of those neighborhoods have anemic voter turnout. >> can you galvanize the voters and get wilson behind you? >> we're going to do that and more. we're going to roll out a series of important endorsement over the next couple of days. we're going to raise the money to be on television radio, and social media. we have made this a dead heat in the last week and a half in chicago. we're going to win on april 7th. the city is in a financial free

fall do to rahm's financial mismanagement. >> how big of a defeat would this be if rahm emanuel didn't get reelected? >> he's a celebrated figure not just in chicago, but also in washington. a really big figure. if chuy garcia were to win this race, it would send some shock waves across the country, i think. >> i appreciate it so much. we'll do it again and keep an eye on this race no doubt. coming up, kicking the fossil fuel habit. we'll introduce you to one of the leading minds in alternative energy. stay with us. natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security.

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legislation on monday that makes wisconsin a right to work state. it will become the 25th state with anti-worker laws. the state assembly passed right to work legislation 62-35 on a straight party line vote. >> if they don't like the union, they can by majority to discertify the union and not be a union, but mr. speaker and members, at the end of the day unions are about the middle class. >> forced union states lost 2.1 million jobs. that's over a decade. >> walker said the bill wasn't a priority. he promised to sign it into law once republicans fast tracked it, though. it contains language nearly identical to alex law.

joining me tonight wisconsin state representative peter barker. this has been a long mission put forward by the republicans for years and it's what walker has wanted. is this what the residents of wisconsin want? putting all politics aside and just the heart beat of the state, is this what the state residents want? >> well ed at the hearing that we had in the senate and the labor committee, 18 people showed up and testified and registered against the bill. only 25 in favor of the bill. i think people know it is going to lower wages. it is going to increase injuries, and it's going to take away value training at a time when we need skilled workers, but we were astonished ed because the governor when he was in a dead heat, he told a paper

i'm not pushing it. he clearly deceived people. i think people in the state are in a state of shock. >> when you look at this there was not one republican that voted against it. they got their fraternity in line didn't they? >> well they have. senator petrolski, you had one republican who was very courageous in opposing it. this isn't just a knock against the middle class and workers. we had 440 small businesses and contractors band together and form a coalition to oppose this bill, so this a knock on small business and on workers. there's no question it's going to hurt our state desperately. >> how much about walker's national profile and platform plays into this? >> well i think it's enormous. you know, it's pretty difficult when you promise the people you're not going to bring it up. he said he knew it would be

polarizing once again. he realized private sector workers were his allies to create 255,000 jobs. we're dead last in the midwest for jobs. his agenda is not working. trickle down economics rarely does. i was proud of it. we had 440 businesses stand with workers opposed to this. we want to stand with middle class and small business. >> you have to get the governor's chair back and you have to get majorities in the assembly and the senate to reverse this. right now, you're powerless to do anything about it correct? >> well of course it's very difficult. the republicans put forward a very partisan extreme redistricting proposal that gerrymanders these districts incredibly. in 2010/2012 election assembly

democrats got 175,000 more votes than assembly republicans, but of course they had a big majority because of the way they drew the districts. we have our hands full. make no mistake of it but i think people are going to catch on. this could take up to $3.8 billion out of the economy, an economy that is dead last in the middle east. the governor's programs are not working, so it is surprising he's doing so well in republican polls. >> he's gone after public education. he's gone after unions. now he's got the state right to work. he's given corporate tax breaks. he's perfect for their national agenda. he doesn't care about wisconsin, but that's just my take. good to have you with us tonight. stick around. lots more coming up on "the ed show" right after this. otherwise, we gotta scrub all this stuff off. huh, what? nobody thought of this before? what's wrong with people?

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finally tonight we continue the msnbc series "7 days of genius" with one of the leading minds in the alternative energy revolution. tonight we meet the architect of a ground breaking plan to get the united states completely off oil and coal sooner than ever imagined. ♪ >> the earth has warmed by about 1.5 degrees fahrenheit. well over half of that has happened in the last 50 years. >> in america our aging, dirty and insecure power system has to

be replaced anyway by 2050. >> innovator emory lovens has a plan. >> unleash market forces that will drive even deeper reductions through innovation and investment. >> not just technology and policy but also design and business strategy. >> although congressional gridlock is holding the united states back from more new clean advance s advances. >> is it fair to say the administration's political goal is to eliminate coal power from the united states. >> absolutely. >> we'll drill here and drill now. >> the reason you call this a war on coal is that's exactly what it is. >> for the sake of our families' health and for our kids' future we have a moral obligation to act on climate.

>> last year 36% of all new electric capacity came from solar. wind energy generated 4.4%. and corporations are taking notice. >> the companies will build an $850 million solar energy farm in california. >> george washington university and american university to buy more than half their power from three solar power farms. >> already in about 20 states private installers will come put those cheap solar cells on your roof. >> experts predict the cost of solar power will drop 40% over the next three to four years. >> with no money down and beat your utility bill. >> we have to decide as a country that we want to be clean. it can be done. >> let's set our sights higher than a single oil pipeline. >> lovins also agrees building new oil pipelines like the keystone xl is not a solution to our energy independence.

>> our country still runs primarily on fossil fuels. and trying to change that will require strong leadership and intense cooperation. >> let's build the keystone pipeline. >> we do not have to choose between a healthy environment and a healthy economy. >> the transition is well under way. >> amore lovins joins us the key scientist and co-founder of the rocky mountain institute. tell me about design. what you said in that soundbite, we can do it with design. what did you mean by that? and good to have you with us tonight. >> thanks for having me. design is about how you put technologies together to achieve your purpose. i live in a house up in the rockies where it used to go to minus 47 f on occasion. we're now harvesting our 58th banana crop with no furnace and it was a little cheaper to build that way because we built in so much insulation and superwindows and other efficiency that it got rid of the heating system saving enough capital costs to pay for

for the efficiency with a little money left over. there's now over 30,000 houses in europe that do that. you can do the same kind of thing in big buildings. our new office going up nearby will be about twice as efficient as the most efficient new office in the country was four years ago and still have a business case and won't need any central heating or cooling equipment. >> how do we accelerate this? is it just public knowledge? is it investment? what is it? >> well all of the above. we need more people to realize this is possible not just in buildings that use three-quarters of our electricity, but in vehicle design and in industry. and then once the designers have the skill and the customers know they can do it we need to clear away some obstacles like the way, in most state, we reward utilities for selling more energy and penalize them for cutting our bill so we get the

opposite of ha we want. the way we pay architects and engineers for what they spend rather than what they save. so there are a lot of barriers we need to bust. probably 60 or 80 of them. that can be done in the private sector or at a state level or a federal level. there's a lot of different ways to get things done in our rich federal structure. >> you have got a long-term plan. and so give us a snapshot of what you think our country's going to look like when it comes to alternative energy in five years, ten years. >> well already in much of the country and within five or ten years and essentially all of the country, solar and wind will beat your utility bill. and so with a huge change is coming at the utility industry. basically 21st century technology and speed are colliding head-on with 20th and 19th century institutions' rules

and cultures. there's a similar revolution happening in transportation. we're moving from what we call pigs to seals, that is from personal internal combustion gasoline, steel-dominated, you know heavy vehicles to shareable electric autonomous lightweight service vehicles. that will revolutionize how we get around and new ways of designing our communities will mean we don't need to get around so much as having access to where we want to be because we'll pretty much already be there. this will increase profits for developers and reduce tax costs for infrastructure. now, in industry it's the same thing. we're wringing a lot of waste out of the system. and we recently -- >> the future's great. we got to run here. mr. loveins this is fascinating.

it's what we've got to be doing as a country and as a globe. i appreciate your time. for more information on the "7 days of genius" series log on to msnbc.com/genius. you can get my podcast on itunes. ring of fire radio.kol. politics nation is reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from montgomery alabama, ahead of the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. it's one of the landmark events of the civil rights era. and we'll be covering it throughout the show tonight. but we start with developing news on the best jobs record in 37 years. you wouldn't know it by listening to republicans, but the economy under