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loveins this is fascinating. it's what we've got to be doing as a country and as a globe. i appreciate your time. for more information on the "7 days of genius" series log on to msnbc.com/genius. you can get my podcast on itunes. ring of fire radio.kol. politics nation is reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. >> good evening, ed. and thanks to you for tuning in. i'm live tonight from montgomery alabama, ahead of the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. it's one of the landmark events of the civil rights era. and we'll be covering it throughout the show tonight. but we start with developing news on the best jobs record in 37 years. you wouldn't know it by listening to republicans, but the economy under president
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obama is on a hot streak. for the first time in over three decades, it's now added over 200,000 jobs a month for a full year and that's just the start. >> this morning we learned that our economy created nearly 300,000 new jobs last month. the unemployment rate went down. unemployment rate ticked down to 5.5%. which is the lowest it's been since the spring of 2008. >> for years republicans claim the president's policies weren't working, and for years they were dead wrong. this is a chart of private sector job growth. five years ago this month the president signed the affordable care act into law. and already that very month republicans were claiming it
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would kill jobs. >> with our desperate needs for jobs and economic growth is this really the time to raise taxes? to create bureaucracies and burden every job creator in our land? >> but it didn't kill jobs. in fact that month marked the beginning of the the longest streak of prit sector job growth in history. and it's still going. 60 straight months. speaker boehner's been wrong about this for five straight years. and today i'm told he finally issued an apology. i have it right here. quote, while it is welcome news that more americans found work last month, middle-class families continue to be left behind by the president's policies. wait. wait. that's not an apology. speaker boehner, what about those claims that the affordable
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care act is killing jobs? >> the president's prescriptions for income inequality have actually made things worse. whether it's obama care whether it's all of the other rules and regulations coming out of this administration. >> that's right. republicans are still making these bogus claims and the country is still creating jobs at record pace. joining me now are congressmen jim mcdermott democrat of washington, and austan goolsbee former chairman of president obama's council of economic advisers. thank you both for being here. >> good to be here. >> congressman, did i miss something or did speaker boehner forget to apologize today for his bad economic predictions? >> you didn't miss anything rev. he does not ever want to admit that the president has ever done anything in the last eight years
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that's worth talking about. the fact is that what he really ought to be talking and apologizing about is not bringing a bill to the floor to raise the minimum wage. we got lots of people working now, but their income is not going up because they're making below what it takes to get out of poverty. in seattle, it takes $15 an hour to really get out of poverty. so that's why people went out there and raised it themselves because they knew the politicians weren't going to do anything. and that really has to happen all over the country. we have to raise the minimum wage. >> austan let me get your assessment of what these job numbers mean. you chaired the president's economic advisers. what do these numbers mean? and how do you make of the republicans' continued to run the same negative reaction and appraisals to the president's
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policies? >> well, you know they got the old thing of if everybody's going that way, get out front and call it a parade. the republicans in congress did more than just not apologize. they then started to try to take credit, said it was a mcconnell economy. that's not going to work. they said that obama care was going to lead to the ending of full-time jobs and everybody was going to be forced into part-time jobs that's proven completely wrong. we've had 8 million full-time jobs. the number of part-time jobs is barely up. i think the numbers today were very positive. the only thing that i think is we shouldn't get complacent because the world continues to be a dangerous place, europe china, a lot of places slowing down. it could always slow down our growth, but we've been on a good run in the job market. >> congressman, let me go back to something you raised about wages, though. because one of the cautionary
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notes from today's job reports is wages aren't rising fast enough. republicans are starting to talk about this. but look at their economic agenda. they oppose the fair pay act. they're against the president's plan to close tax loopholes on the wealthy, and they oppose raising the minimum wage. how can republicans attack inequality and stagnant wages but then oppose the policies that would fix it? >> well they have to believe in the tooth fairy or something, i don't know. all the things that you need to do you just enumerated. they have to raise the minimum wage. if you -- in india, a lot of people are working, there's millions of them for $2 a day, working and having a job is one thing, but working and having a job that gives you an opportunity to get out of poverty is another thing altogether. and it means they have to raise the minimum wage. it is simply not enough to say
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40 hours a week at $7 an hour is going to get you out of poverty. it isn't. you have to have 12 13 $14 and that's really where we ought to be going. >> austan one of the things that's striking bringing the unemployment rate down to 5.5, something we have not had that low, the unemployment rate since 2008. and this kind of generating of jobs. this would have even been lowered if we had public sector jobs that were coming in. these are private sector jobs. had we had a jobs bill had we not had republicans cutting back in the public sector this would even be a more of a phenomenal achievement. >> i do think it would be bigger, for sure. we've had what the economists consider fiscal drag pulling down the growth rate of the economy. if you just look at the job growth, the private sector job
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growth has been all but astounding. i mean equal to any of the strongest years that we've had in the last half century. and a lot of the job losses have been on the government's side. so there is that irony that you see the republicans saying oh that's because the government is choking things. the government is shrinking. we made a shrinking share of government as a share of gdp and of employment. >> now congressman, let's look at the job records of the last four presidents. four republicans, two democrat combined. both president bushes created just over a million private jobs -- private sector jobs just over a million combined. presidents clinton and obama have combined to create almost 29 million jobs. what would it make it harder for a republican candidate in 2016 to argue the gop has the right solutions on jobs especially if
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their candidate is named bush? >> you're going to have guys out there twisting themselves into pretzels trying to make it seem like republicans care about people and jobs. they've refused to put money into public sector things like building roads and building bridges and water systems, and that kind of infrastructure stuff they simply have been unwilling to do anything to help people get jobs. somehow they think magically it's all going to happen without them doing anything. and that's not going to work. and the people are not going to buy it in 2016. now, i don't care what jeb bush says about his brother and his father. he is not going to be able to convince people that republicans are going to provide jobs. they don't. >> reverend think about it -- >> austan -- go ahead. >> the last two democratic presidents have come in to clean
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up the mess left by president bush. what third time's a charm? i don't think that's going to work. >> now, well let's talk about what bush would say. let me actually play what jeb wush, not george sr., not george jr., this is what jeb bush said about obama care or the affordable care act. >> obama care is clearly a job killer. >> the best thing we could do to help people who are unemployed or underemployed is fix obama care. >> obama care adds a cost to employment. if you increase the cost of employing someone, you will cause unemployment. >> obama care's the biggest job killer in this country. >> these are the ones that are out front ahead of the pack running in 2016 and all of them are saying that obama care or
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the affordable care act is a jobs killer. 60 straight months 60 straight months, austan of job creation. how do they run on this how do they stand there and tell the american people something that the american people see is blatantly untrue? >> look you remember in the '90s when the clinton job machine was cranking along and then newt gingrich said well really it was the gingrich economy. i predict they will try to come up with some way to explain how we had 60 months of job growth because of what happened in the midterm elections a few months ago. >> well, they can try, but 60 months clearly does not -- >> exactly. >> -- not include just the midterm elections and their policies, congressman, have not done anything that you can remotely say caused the continued job growth that we were already having before on a consistent basis by the way, before the midterm elections.
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i'll have to leave it there, congressman jim mcdermott austan goolsbee, thank you both for your time tonight. >> we'll see you again. >> thank you. coming up democrats hit back against the gop's hillary scandal machine. why the new republican obsession with e-mail-ghazi could backfire. and the most outrageous tweet about gabby giffords. and why are republicans refusing to attend the bloody sunday events this weekend? 50 years later the civil rights milestone reveals how far we've come and the fight that yet remains. why do i cook? because i make the best chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. because i make the best chicken noodle soup. for every way you make chicken noodle soup, make it delicious with swanson®.
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mark your calendars, mark your calendars, folks. today might be theday that republicans jump the shark on the hillary clinton e-mail. now the rest of the gang wants a piece of the action. "the wall street journal" reports other congressional panels are exploring their options and jurisdiction. so now we know what republicans are going to do with their new
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majority in congress. they're going to spend month after month and probably millions of dollars going through clinton's old e-mails. e-mails that she herself now wants the state department to release. and the 2016 crowd is singing the same tune. listen to jeb bush in a radio interview in iowa. >> for security purposes you need to be behind a firewall that recognizes the world for what it is and it's a dangerous world, and security would mean that you couldn't have a private server. i don't -- just -- it's a little baffling, to be honest with you, that that didn't come up in secretary clinton's thought process. >> it's interesting that bush says that because he owned a personal e-mail server that he used as governor just like
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hillary. scott walker is jumping on the bandwagon, too. his spokesman saying quote, hillary clinton's potentially evasion of laws is something she should answer questions about. but his own hometown paper says quote, walker hits clinton on private e-mail like the one he used as county executive. gee, it's almost like these guys are ignoring their own personal history in order to launch partisan political attacks. now, of course there are legitimate questions that clinton still needs to answer but that no excuse for a right wing fishing expedition or for another phony scandal that nobody outside washington cares about. joining me now is e.j. dionne of "the washington post." thank you for being here e.j. >> good to be with you, reverend. >> clinton needs to address this
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more fully, but is the gop about to dive off the deep end with more hillary conspiracy theories e.j.? >> as you were suggesting reverend, we were wondering what this congress would do and now it may break all historical records by having more committees investigating one person than any time ever in congress. i find it sort of peculiar on their part because there's an old rule in politics that when your opponent is in some trouble, your best move is often to sit back and shut up. in this case the press is asking all kinds of questions of hillary clinton, and there's no reason for the republicans to escalate. and if you go back to the bill clinton scandal, there were a lot of people including democrats, who were mad at president clinton for what he said. but what helped save him was people reacted against his opponents.
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his opponents, whether it was ken starr or the impeachers in congress kept going way beyond where the american people wanted them to be. and if they're not careful, the republicans are going to do the same thing all over again with another clinton. >> it seems that they're headed down that track because they've gotten into overdrive on this. and clearly, as i said she needs to be more thorough and forthcoming with her answers, but again, i don't know that it rises to congressional hearing, certainly benghazi being brought up and raising the fact that other committees get involved. we're talking about spending a lot of money. and i don't think anyone thinks that hillary clinton, if she was doing something questionable would have it on e-mails. i would doubt that but we have to look into it but certainly not at the levels they're raising. >> well, you know i stipulate two things. i think everybody now agrees
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that people in government should carry out government business on government e-mails. and i think she is going to have to explain why she did it this way even though she didn't -- >> right. >> -- obama administration knew she was doing this and nobody raised questions at the time. and democrats made a big deal of bush administration people using private e-mail. but what the republicans are doing, if they get this all kind of inveigled in their benghazi investigation is that they are getting this mixed up with one of the most partisan investigations that we have seen. they investigated and investigated in the case of benghazi, and they didn't come up with any smoking gun. it was a tragedy, not a scandal. and if they continue down this path, they're going to make it easy for democrats to say there they go again, and you already have a lot of democrats saying that. >> now, there's been some
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criticism of secretary clinton's response to the e-mail controversy. bloomberg is reporting that quote, the hope of clinton's inner circle is that she'll be able to address the e-mail controversy as a minor element of her expected announcement. does she need to address this more fully before then e.j.? >> i think she'd be better off doing that. i think that again, it doesn't look like she broke any law. it looks like a lot of this can be explained, and you know there are those questions out there. a colleague of mine who is not anti-clinton wrote a list of 13 questions she thought that she could usefully answer. i think she'd be better off to try to get some of these answers out before she announces. and we'll see if they do that or if they go with this strategy of addressing it indirectly. i think they'd be better off to get it out of the way. >> e.j. dionne thank you for your time tonight.
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we're following developing news. sources tell nbc news the justice department is expected to file corruption charges against new jersey senator robert menendez as soon as this month. the investigation was triggered by allegations that a campaign donor helped menendez pay for underage prostitutes in the dominican republic. the woman who made those claims later recanted. but authorities kept investigating whether menendez used his office to hand out
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by the numbers that we saw and the breadth of the practices that we uncovered. the impact that it had on the lives of the ordinary citizens of that municipality is just appalling, appalling, and that's not something we're going to tolerate. >> today new details about the issues in ferguson. "the new york times" reporting that two police supervisors have resigned after being linked to racist e-mails. and another official the city's top court clerk, has been fired. obviously, ferguson has problems but there are different kinds of serious issues in washington too. senate republicans still refuse to hold a vote to confirm loretta lynch, our new -- our next attorney general. she'll be the first african-american woman to hold the post. but she's had to wait weeks
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longer for confirmation than any other recent attorney general nominee. and republicans are also refusing to take action to renew the voting rights act. so this weekend we need to honor the struggle that brought us to this point, but we also need to summon the strength to march again for what's right. joining me now is sirius/xm radio host joe madison and huffington post washington bureau chief ryan grimm. thank you both for being here. >> thank you, reverend. >> thank you reverend. >> joe, you spoke with president obama this morning about some of these issues. i want to play part of that. >> all right. >> we just saw the ferguson report come out. i don't think that is typical of what happens across the country, but it's not an isolated incident. i think that there are circumstances in which trust
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between communities and law enforcement have broken down and individuals or entire departments may not have the training or the accountability to make sure that they're protecting and serving all people and not just some. >> he says ferguson wasn't an isolated incident. >> right. >> is criminal justice reform the next step in building on the legacy of selma, joe? >> no ifs, ands buts about it. let's remember jimmy lee jackson. he was, in essence, murdered. there was police brutality not only on bloody sunday but in marion alabama, with almost every march that took place. some of the very same things that people went through 50 years ago plus we're now seeing being repeated. i think someone said, one of the
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elders in semlma, that civil rights didn't end with the election of president barack obama, it simply took a nap. all it takes the one incident like michael brown to spark that but your callers, like my callers, they tell you these stories every day, from coast to coast across this country, but the one thing that we can say is that the president has done something about it. and you know as one who has talked to the attorney general and the president, he's pulled together law enforcement officers black and white, district attorneys, to try to do what? find solutions. and they've come up with some very strong recommendations. >> now, ryan while former president bush and several rank and file gop lawmakers are going to selma to join us none of the
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top republican leaders in the house are attending, speaker boehner, majority leader kevin mccarthy and majority whip steve scalise are all skipping the event. now, this runs contrary to their wanting to reach out and wanting to have a nonpartisan kind of procedure when we deal with the issues of race and unfairness. i might add, i'm concerned that some leading democrats are not here either but the democratic leadership is clearly supporting bringing this effort for the 50th anniversary, and i'm talking about in the senate when i say some leading democrats. but certainly miss pelosi the former speaker's here and others. but ryan how do you rationalize republicans talking about reaching out and none of their leadership here? >> the only way you can
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rationalize it is to say that it just simply isn't on their radar. you know they talked 2012 that they wanted to fix their brand. but this is an extraordinarily easy thing to do. you know, you get on a plane, you fly down there, you participate in this event. i've never been to it but i understand it's quite a moving thing and it's something that people should be privileged to be part of. it's not something that's really a burden. and in fact the place is surrounded by golf courses. so they could easily schedule a fund-raiser, you know if their problem is that they have to raise x amount of money. there's no shortage of republicans in alabama that they could get to a golf course at $5,000 $10,000 a head. this is clearly something they've decided not just to prioritize. especially with scalise who got himself in trouble for saying that he had spoken at a white supremacist event, you know
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people thought that maybe at least he would go. but he's not going to show up. >> joe, it is not a hard political thing to do. it's standing up for american history. george bush will be here. but here's what former rnc chair michael steele said about it quote, we do dumb real well. it is astounding to me that whether it is supporting the continuation of the voting rights act or commemorating a pivotal part of american civil rights history, republican leadership prefers to sit on the sidelines. isn't that exactly right, joe? >> it's exactly right, but you know what it does, it fits into what lee atwater created a couple of decades -- a few decades ago, the southern strategy. remember what the southern strategy was. dixie-crats were very upset. these are southern democrats, that african-americans had
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gotten too much political power. they had gone too far with the civil rights bill the voting rights bill, and they were looking for a home. and sure enough the republican party came up with this southern strategy. which basically said we'll use code words, we'll be abstract. you can't bring your overt racism but here's what we'll do. we'll be abstract. there's a great -- >> not only abstract. they're being absent this weekend at a pivotal moment. and you know ryan also at a time that they've not scheduled the vote on loretta lynch who would be the first african-american woman to be attorney general, the second african-american attorney general in history. haven't even scheduled to vote. that's how we go into this weekend here. much work left to be done here ryan. >> right. and part of the problem is our political system where there's a regional system in congress and there's a national system. so they're having trouble
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winning national elections because in order to do that you need more than just white southern voters but they can hold on to the house for the foreseeable future with the base they have outadding a single african-american vote on election day. now, i'm told that loretta lynch has got out of committee four days ago, and she's been up for a long time but i'm told that she will get a vote soon. maybe this is pressuring them on that front. >> but they missed a historical moment. >> i've got to go joe, i've got to go. but clearly we'll see to that. and as i said it's already taken much longer than any recent attorney general. >> that's right. >> in history. joe madison and ryan grim thank you both for your time tonight. have a great weekend. >> thank you. >> thank you, reverend. >> you too. coming up why people are pretty upset today about the nra's tweet about gabby giffords. also apple and other corporations make a big splash for equal rights. conversation nation is next.
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today a connecticut state commission presented its final report on the sandy hook school shootings outlining proposed changes to gun laws and public safety policies. and earlier this week former arizona congresswoman gabby giffords was back on capitol hill supporting new legislation to expand background checks but following her calls, the nra struck back tweeting quote, gabby giffords everyone should have to pass background check my attacker passed. how could the nra tweet anything like this about giffords after all she went through? >> rev, just when you think is there no low they won't go to? here's your answer. i had a caller on my show say that today. is there no low that is too low? and by the way, i have the great good fortune to meet gabby
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giffords and her husband last year in tucson. and their goodness just shines through. they would like to sincerely, rev, prevent this from happening to any other families. the same as the newtown families. background checks wouldn't have stopped adam lanza. he got his gun from his mother. they're still trying to help other people not have to go through this pain and the nra gets more disgusting every time we hear from them. >> seema, you see a lot of gun violence in your work. >> i do rev. and backing up on what stephanie just said whatever brings a spotlight back to mental illness, she mentioned other cases, and that's exactly the great thing about this tweet. is that yeah it's a low, but as stephanie said their goodness knows no bound ss. so these mentally ill people are going to pass the background checks unless we change the system. >> john. >> i completely agree. i wasn't surprised by the
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opposition clearly of the in ra but i think it was pathetic and i agree with stephanie and seema, it was ab all-time low for them to mock gabby giffords' 2011 shooting. they're missing the point ear. gabby giffords and other lawmakers are not suggesting that this would have prevented that shooting from taking place. they're simply saying that these types of expansive background checks would really make it more difficult for criminals to access firearms which is important, and we can't deny -- >> exactly. >> that making it more difficult for background checks is very important. making it more difficult for criminals to access firearms is very important. >> my point is and we'll move on, you can argue the policy you can argue those of us that want to see stronger and stricter laws but have a woman who has suffered what she suffered in any way be a subject to this kind of tweet -- >> because they don't care rev, because they don't care. certain politicians are ruthless. >> i'll move on. >> but it seems like someone
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else. it wouldn't have stopped gabby giffords' attacker. >> we're going to run out of toim time. and i wa nt to get to another issue. next the country's evolution on gay marriage is what i want to get to. just a decade after it was a big wedge issue in the elections, gay marriage could soon become the law of the land. with a major case coming up in the supreme court, this week 379 companies including apple, facebook and coca-cola filed a friend of the court brief pressing the court to legalize same-sex marriage. and 300 republicans, including tom ridge and david koch have filed a similar brief supporting same-sex marriage. so seema. >> yes. >> now corporate america and many top republicans are supporting marriage equality has the country turned a corner? >> no rev! nobody's turned a corner. okay corporate america will throw their support behind anyone who will make them money.
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and republicans need votes. let me just quote, the growth in opportunity project report says we need to campaign among hispanic, black, asian, gay americans to demonstrate we care about them. nobody cares about anybody. everyone throws ideology aside to get what they want boom. done. >> stephanie? >> well i think it's a good sign that i asked siri to marry me right before the show and she said yes. so i think it is a quantum leap in our civil rights battle in this generation. >> excellent. >> there's breaking news. john? >> no, i agree. and i applaud these entities and for these laurps to come out and really take a stance in filing these amicus briefs. i said it before i think it's important that we overturn these marriage bans because denying the rights of same-sex couples to marry and therefore divide and not providing them with the rights and spomts that come with marriage is completely against equal protection clause of the constitution.
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>> now, seema, i get that they do whatever they -- >> right. >> -- seem to feel they can make money. >> yes. >> but isn't it a fact that now that so many republicans and corporate american leaders have come out on the record publicly hasn't it shown the climate in the country around this has changed a lot, where it was a wedge issue that it could be used against you for votes ten years ago now they see no risk coming out publicly supporting this. >> i agree with you, reverend al absolutely. i think we're always forgetting that there's a huge part of the republican base that is in fact gay. so yes, the climate is changing. >> all right. everybody stay with me. we'll be right back with a study that says you're smartphone may be making you dumber. ugh... ...heartburn. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit.
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researchers in canada say their study shows an association between heavy smartphone use and lowered intelligence. they also say more research has to be done to see if smartphones actually decreases intelligence. stephanie, what do you think, are smartphones making people less intelligent? >> hang on rev, let me check my iphone and my ipad before i answer that question. yeah, i mean i do think -- here's the good news. i'm so old i'm really bad at technology so i don't really know how to use them that well anyway. so i still have a few blaine cells left. but yeah i've literally been on vacation a friend. we haven't made eye contact in three days. i'm going to throw that friggen phone in the ocean. >> nice. >> i do think we're a little overly dependent. >> well there goes your marriage proposal stephanie. john? >> we might be overly dependent, but i don't think it's making us
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more stupid. i think quite to the contrary having access to all this information with the click of a button is amazing. we have to remember, though years ago, having access to information was limited by a number of different factors and one of those factors was socioeconomic. so i think having access to technology is a great equalizer. it equals levels the playing field and allows everyone to have access to that information. >> rev, that study was showing addiction to the smartphones. >> right, right. >> and that study says addiction is shown by evidence of taking selfies and posting them on social media. i'm addicted to my cell phone but i do not take selfies because i'm horribly unphotogenic, yet i sleep with my cellphone, i cradle it i wake up in the morning to read e-mails from your producer requesting me to come on "politics nation." so yes, i'm addicted but no -- >> then the study says -- >> i don't know that he sends that that early in the morning. we've got to have a staff meeting when i get back to new york. stephanie, john and seema, thank
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you for your time tonight. have a great weekend. >> thank you rev. >> be sure to catch seema on "the docket" every tuesday at 11:00 a.m. on "shift by msnbc." up next my final thoughts on the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. shift by msnbc." up next, my final thoughts on the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. shift by msnbc." up next, my final thoughts on the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. up next, my final thoughts on the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday.
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environmental impact. and natural gas is a big part of that commitment. don't tell me i don't have a claim on selma, alabama. don't tell me i'm not coming home when i come to selma, alabama. i'm here because somebody worked for our freedom. i'm here because you all sacrificed for me. i stand on the shoulders of that. >> that was then-senator barack obama in selma in 2007. he'll return tomorrow to deliver a speech commemorating the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. as this historic weekend gets under way, we remember the
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sacrifices of those very giants he spoke of eight years ago. like miss amelia boynton, a key leader of the rights march in selma, lying bloody. her image was splashed across newspapers of the country shocking the conscience of the nature. 8-year-old shea-ann webb the youngest marcher that day. here's what she recalled in the pbs documentary, "eyes on the prize." >> all i could remember was outbursts of tear gas. and i saw people being beaten and i tried to run home as fast as i could. >> and of course civil rights icon john lewis who wassed aboutly beaten on bloody sunday marching back to the struggle just hours later. >> i was beaten by state
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troopers knocked to the ground and i was released from the hospital about an hour ago. >> those are just some of the giants ss that shoulders we stand on today. i was only 10 years old in brooklyn new york 50 years ago when we marched, when they went across the edmund pettis bridge. and i've come with others who were too young to come then and some many were unborn. but we all come tomorrow as we watch a president that could not have taken that seat had there not been those that sacrificed. but we also come in the week of a ferguson report in a week that loretta lynch doesn't have a confirmation date for her vote. we come where we still have a lot to struggle for. we cannot let the shelby decision of the supreme court reverse what they came across that bridge for. we march not only in
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commemoration. we march for continuation of a struggle that will make america live up to its promise for everyone. that's why we're here. and that's why we'll head home to continue the struggle after this weekend. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. hillary's war. let's play "hardball." good evening. i'm chris matthews. in washington. the sharp focus on hillary clinton seen all this week in front page headlines, none of them good heads into this ekd would. why the newspapers demanded the former secretary of state keep her e-mail records out of public reach. why did she do her business diplomatic, political and otherwise on a private e-mail