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when frustration and paperwork decrease. when grandparents get to live at home instead of in a home. so let's do it. let's simplify healthcare. let's close the gap between people and care. after a year a new twist in the search for that missing malaysian airliner. the big question, why didn't we hear about this a lot earlier? e-mail trail a leading democrat today is calling on hillary clinton to take a specific action to put out a growing fire storm. how will the supreme court rule on obamacare? i'll talk to a former clerk to a justice who may hold the key to the law's survival. and a new study that shows us exactly how american millennials stack up against the
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rest of the world. hello, everybody. thanks for joining us. i'm betty nguyen. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." alex is off today. we want to begin with this. thousands are already gathered at this hour in selma for a ceremonial march today across the edmond pettis bridge. it comes a day after president obama stood in solidarity at the foot of that bridge in alabama 50 years since civil rights marchers were beaten back there by police in what. the president tried to bring perspective to the moment and the place. >> we just need to open our eyes and our ears and our hearts to know that this nation's racial history still casts its long shadow upon us. we know the march is not yet over. we know the race is not yet won. we know that reaching that blessed destination where we are
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judged all of us by the content of our character requires admitting as much, facing up to the truth. >> the president also took a measure of passing of time and change in america. >> if you think nothing's changed in the past 50 years, ask somebody who lived through the selma or chicago or los angeles of the 1950s. to deny this progress this hard-won progress our progress would be to rob us of our own agency, our own capacity our responsibility to do what we can to make america better. >> msnbc's treymaine lee is in selma for us today. how were the president's remarks received there? >> folks were extremely excited. as thousands of people converge on selma, you should see the scene at here in the heart of selma's black community. folks were jamming to get in. a few moments ago, attorney general eric holder and incoming
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attorney general loretta lynch came in. the fire marshall has said no one else can come in. we're at capacity. folks are excited. they're commemorating this troubling anniversary but also an anniversary of victories in a fight that's still ongoing. earlier i spoke with andrew young. let's listen to what he had to say. >> it's always good to be back in selma. and we're not through. we're still working on selma. we're still working all across this area. because we started to redeem the soul of america from the triple evils of racism war, and poverty. we did pretty good on racism as you can see. we sure got a long way to go on poverty. >> that's right. almost to a person when you speak to them they say while we're commemorating the 50th anniversary of the selma to montgomery march, the fight is ongoing and we need to take this moment and continue it in an ongoing plan of action to redeem the soul of america.
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>> absolutely. we're looking at some live pictures of people crossing that bridge. for many people, i imagine this is really a symbolic moment in their lives. some of them weren't even alive when this first happened 50 years ago. >> oh, that's right. for those who weren't alive back in 1965 it's somewhat of a pilgrimage through history. but for many others who were here on the ground during that terrible day, bloody sunday and those who participated in that march, they're coming back to again pass the torch but also remember the struggles of the past. >> it's really a powerful scene there. trymanie lee for us in selma today. thank you so much trymanie. one year ago today, malaysian airlines flight 370 disappeared. overnight, we learned new information about the battery in one of the plane's black boxes. it had been expired for more than a year before the flight vanished in 2014.
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>> betty, the big headline from the report is that one of the flight's black boxes may not have been sending out an emergency underwater signal because of an expired battery. the battery in the flight data recorder's emergency beacon should have been replaced in december of 2012 more than a year before the flight took off. the report blames a glitch in maintenance records. that expired battery may have made it tougher to find malaysia airlines flight 370 in the weeks after it went down. search crews are still scanning the southern indian ocean for any sign of that wreckage. the battery in the second black box was up to date and its beacon should have been working. both black boxes still should have recorded data. also in the report along with the 239 passengers and crew on board, the report says the flight was carrying close to 500 pounds of lithium ion batteries, which never went through security screening. but it sheds no new light on why
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the plane went down or where the wreckage might be. betty? >> that is still a mystery. all right, kelly. thank you so much. other news now boko haram has pledged its allegiance to the terror group isis. in an audio statement, the boko haram leader calls on muslims throughout the world to also declare loyalty to isis. demonstrators march near madison, wisconsin's, capital today. they're protesting the shooting of unarmed black teenager tony robinson by a white police officer. madison police chief understands the discontent. >> folks are angry. resent mistrustful, disappointed, shocked, chagrin chagrinned and any one of another number of adjectives you care to use in terms of the
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circumstances surrounding this tragic death. and i get that. >> madison's mayor asked demonstrators to give the state time to investigate the shooting, saying quote, we all deserve to know the facts of the case. marches are taking place all around the country today, in the world, in fact, to march international wumomen's day. protesters are demanding more action against violence discrimination, and protection of rights for women around the world. the goal is 50/50 gender equality by 2030. not all marches have been peaceful. a march on the west bank led to clashes between palestinian marchers and israeli soldiers. that prompted soldiers to fire tear gas into the crowd. well a leading democrat today is calling on hillary clinton to go public with details of how she handled her e-mails while serving as secretary of state. california democrat senator diane feinstein said today is the time for mrs. clinton to clarify her e-mail issue.
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>> what i would like is for her to come forward and say just what the situation is because she is the preimminent political figure right now. she's the leading candidate, whether it be republican or democrat, for the next -- to be the next president. and i think she needs to step up and come out and state exactly what the situation is. some people say, well she -- >> you think the silence is hurting her? >> i think at this point, from this point on the silence is going to hurt her. >> all right. let's delve more into this, bring in nbc senior political editor mark murray. thanks for being with us today. >> thanks betty. >> do you agree with that? that mrs. clinton needs to clarify this before it spirals out of control? >> that's right. so far all she's done has tweeted that she's going to release her documents and e-mails from when she was secretary of state, but we
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haven't heard a real plan about getting that information what the timetable would end up being. senator feinstein is right. the only way for her to put this in the rearview mirror is for her to come down come clean, answer the questions people have. one of the biggest questions people have is why did she have a private e-mail account to do public business where most of the other cabinet secretaries and agency department heads had dot-gov accounts. of course, why she had a home brew system not even just a simple private e-mail address, but an entire system and what that was used for. her being able to answer these questions, to be able to promise a timetable to get the e-mails would go a long way to putting that in her rearview mirror. >> seems like the longer the questions remain out there, the more suspicion grows. how concerned are democrats about mrs. clinton's position so far? >> the democrats i speak with don't think this is going to endanger her from getting the
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democratic nomination. every poll shows she has a huge lead over the likes of vice president joe biden or massachusetts senator elizabeth warren. i don't think there's any worry there. there's also not a lot of worry that shows her to be any less of a viable general election candidate. what people are looking forward to seeing is how she later responds. this goes back to your very first question. part of running for the presidency is you always find yourself in jams. there are times in which you're going to be in the barrel you're getting all the tough questions, people want to know more, you made a mistake. but the art of the successful politician is being able to get out of these jams and how you do that. i think a lot of democrats are looking forward to seeing what kind of agility she has to be able to extricate herself from a tough political situation. >> yeah, it can be a skill. portions of a new nbc news "wall street journal" poll are out. the negatives may seem more than the positives. among potential republican primary voters potential candidate jeb bush had the most even split of the four prospects. 49% said they would support him.
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42% said they would not. chris christie had a wider gap. 32% said they would support him, 57% said no. for for lindsay graham it was 20% versus 51%. what do you make of these numbers? >> well, the big headline to me of these numbers is jeb bush republicans are divided on him. in some ways and i think a lot of political are thinking his path to the republican nomination is a 50/50 proposition. i think those numbers bear that out. you have a sizable number of republicans who are against a jeb bush candidacy. the other, chris christie shows just how unpopular he is even among republican voters. then the question on why didn't we reveal the marco rubios scott walkers, part of our agreement with the wall street journal was not to let out all
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these numbers or be giving away the whole thing. we wanted it give a little tease. we're showing the republicans are kind of split pretty evenly among jeb bush. it's interesting news. >> so you're teasing us, huh? is that what i'm learning? >> absolutely. >> thank you so much. we do appreciate it. so among the tens of thousands who turned out in selma this weekend, some notable names were glaringly absent. more on that next. lly bank no branches equals great rates. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. why are you deleting these photos? because my teeth are yellow. why don't you use a whitening toothpaste? i'm afraid it's bad for my teeth. try crest 3d white. crest 3d white diamond strong toothpaste and rinse... ...gently whiten... ...and fortify weak spots. use together for 2 times stronger enamel. crest 3d white. ♪ ♪ ♪ "here i am. rock you like a hurricane." ♪ fiber one now makes
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if someone had told me when we were crossing this bridge that one day i would be back here introducing the first african-american president, i would have said you're crazy, you're out of your mind you don't know what you're talking about. president barack obama!
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>> it is a rare honor in this life to follow one of your heroes, and john lewis is one of my heroes. >> that was civil rights icon and congressman john lewis introducing president obama yesterday at selma, alabama's, edmund pettus bridge. joining me now is democratic congressman karen bath. she's a member of the foreign affairs committee and judiciary committee. congresswoman, thanks for being with us today. >> thanks for having me on. >> well let me ask you this. what does it mean to you personally to be there in selma this weekend with everyone from the president of the united states to ordinary people of every race? >> well, it's just been an amazing weekend. i have to tell you the emotion that was in representative lewis' voice and the photograph of the two of them hugging each other was an iconic moment in our history. i was a young child during that time but in los angeles,
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california, i watched the civil rights movement with my father. and so to be there and experience what we did yesterday was just an amazing moment of history. >> absolutely. >> very proud to be there. >> it was history, you know, sitting there and recognizing history. there was so much going on so many emotions by many of the people there. you know, the centerpiece of the issue in selma, both 50 years ago and this weekend, was voting rights. the supreme court has significantly cut the 1965 law. we had this ongoing debate about voting reforms in primarily red states. what has the impact been in your eyes? >> well, i do have to tell you that that was one of the things that was very powerful. on the one hand we were commemorating history. on the other hand that history is staring us in the face right now because it's happening in this moment. and so the fact that the supreme court rolled back as the president said yesterday one of the most important accomplishments of the civil rights movement what i hope just as the president said is
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that we will go back to washington and we will pass legislation to reinforce the voting rights act. president bush was sitting there on the stage with president obama. he signed the extension of the voting rights act. we need for president obama to sign that extension as well, which means we have to pass it in congress. so i'm hoping that my colleagues that were there yesterday will feel the inspiration and will want to be a part of the future not a part of the past. >> how tough of a road though will it be to get something passed? >> well i do think that it'll be difficult. on the other hand, you know my republican colleagues and there's several of them that are interested in passing an extension of the voting rights act and really correcting what the supreme court did. but, you know, you have to get the majority of the caucus. the republicans are in control of both houses of congress. i was very happy that there were a number of republicans that were with us on the weekend. so i'm hoping that they'll go back and talk to their
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colleagues and say, this is about the future. this is about our country today. we cannot roll back time. we just can't do it. >> you just mentioned the republicans who were there this weekend. what's your interpretation of speaker john boehner and senate majority leader mitch mcconnell not attending yesterday's events? >> well i was happy that the majority leader kevin mccarthy was there, and i don't know their reasons for not coming. but you know perhaps the significance of the 50-year anniversary passed them. it's hard for me to understand how it could, but again, i was happy that republican leadership was there. like i said you know i'm hoping that the delegation especially the delegation from alabama, and they were all there and that was wonderful to see. i really hope they lead the fight going back into congress and say, you know what we really have to be in the future. the idea that voter suppression laws would be passed around our country while we go around the world telling everybody else how to have elections, you know, it
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really is kind of shameful. we just can't allow it to continue. >> that's an interesting point. the president referenced the justice department this past week, which found patterns of racism from the ferguson police department. i want you to take a listen to what he said. >> i rejected the notion that nothing's changed. what happened in ferguson may not be unique, but it's no longer endemic. it's no longer sanctioned by law or by custom. and before the civil rights movement, it most surely was. we do a disservice to the cause of justice by intimating that bias and discrimination are immutable, that racial division is inherent in america. >> do you agree with that? is the problem no longer as the president said endemic? >> well, i think the president was making two points. one is that it's absolutely incorrect to say that nothing has changed because a lot has changed. on the other hand, it's also absolutely incorrect to say that
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what has happened in ferguson was an isolated incident. i went to ferguson. we had a delegation that went there over the king weekend. i have to tell you that it was shocking to hear how traffic violations are used to raise revenue for the city and how you can have a city where a large percentage of the population have warrants because they can't afford to pay the traffic violations and how those laws are used in a racist fashion. so on the one hand it's really important that we celebrate and acknowledge our success. on the other hand, it's very important that we not have the type of denial that existed 50 years ago. we were at the museum and looking at old videotapes and listening to people from alabama in the 1950s talking about how racism isn't here everybody's happy. so we cannot allow the type of denial that existed in the 1950s to exist right now. it's very important we move forward. >> absolutely. and i want to switch gears briefly because in a new
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interview, president obama made his first comments on the hillary clinton e-mail controversy. here's what he said. >> mr. president, when did you first learn that hillary clinton used an e-mail system outside the u.s. government for official business while she was secretary of state? >> at the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. >> were you disappointed? >> let me just say that hillary clinton is and has been an outstanding public servant. she was a great secretary of state for me. the policy of my administration is to encourage transparency. >> the president says he's glad hillary clinton asked for her e-mails to be released. why let it get to this point? and perhaps more importantly, does this hurt her long term? >> well i don't think that it does, but i have to tell you, when i heard about the e-mails -- because it's my colleagues that have the benghazi investigation going on, and i guess now they have something to do. because clearly all of the reports that came out about benghazi said that there was no conspiracy there, there was no
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malpractice on her part. so i guess the members of the benghazi task force will be very busy going through all those e-mails once they've been released. i think this is a story that will probably go away in a few months. >> oh, okay. well so far, though hillary clinton's only response a three-sentence tweet sent out at 11:30 at night. in your eyes is that adequate or does she really need to come out and say much more and put this to rest? >> i'm sure we will hear much more from her as time goes on. >> yeah. well, are you worried the democrats don't have any other real contenders for 2016? >> i'm not worried about that. i'm excited about her candidacy. i'm certainly on board and want to see what moves forward. but, you know, i think that the clintons have been investigated more than any two people in our history, and if there was something there, i think they would have found it out. so to me this is just consistent with the narrative that's happened for the last 20
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after selma, there are laws across this country designed to make it harder for people to vote. as we speak, more such laws are being proposed. meanwhile, the voting rights act, the culmination of so much blood, so much sweat and tears, the product of so much sacrifice in the face of wanton violence, the voting rights act stands weakened its future subject to political rancor. >> joining me now from selma is msnbc's melissa harris-perry. first of all, melissa, how did the president's speech compare to previous speeches on race? >> oh there's no question it is among the best speeches of his career and certainly one of the best of his presidency. when i say best what i mean is that it did the work of connecting the political and social world that we're currently existing in to the
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very poignant moment where he was. so he connected with his crowd. you could hear the passion, the emotion, the roar of the crowd when he would get to certain key places. that is evidence of kind of good speech making. but even more importantly than that, the president did some work i haven't seen him do in a long time, for which was really incredibly important to his initial election, which is to say he placed his own legacy within the context of a broad american history, telling us a story about our founding of us as we the people of us as a people who come from a document that says we have certain inalienable rights. then connecting his own presidency there, saying we the people but also yes, we can, but then also projecting forward, saying that it is the young activists who are beginning their work in this day, in this struggle who will have to take it forward. so again, in the kind of political question of the ways in which he connected, a terrific piece of oratory.
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>> and in connecting the dots there, are you hearing a new call, an importance for a new expansive voting rights act? >> well, you know i'm not sure it's a knew call here in selma, alabama, where the importance of the voting rights act and the kind of sadness about the ways in which it was gutted by the supreme court in shelby v. holder is -- i mean it's part of the air that you breathe in a place like selma, alabama. but what i do think is that seeing all of these elected officials here republican and democrat seeing president george w. bush sit there at the same place that our current president barack obama was standing, having right now the attorney general who just released that scathing report out of ferguson in this historic chapel to worship this morning, what those things do is not so much create the call but they give people a sense that there is wind at their backs and that this effort to get a renewed voting rights act might actually
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have a chance despite the gridlock in congress. so i think it gives movement and excitement and energy. >> despite president obama's comments on voting rights he warned the country to remember the hard-won progress. he said we can't assume that racial division is inherent in america. how did that really play out with the people there? >> i think that is precisely what folks here understand. this selma, the selma of 2015 is not the selma of 1965. the notion that what the young people of this community faced, the violence they faced from their police officers, it is not that same selma. in fact, most of the police officers here stopped and took a selfie. very friendly and lovely. a very different place. but that doesn't mean selma isn't still racked by poverty, that it doesn't still have deep issues of inequality. so, no this is not the same selma of 1965. it's also not yet the promiseland that dr. king said
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he had an opportunity to stand on that mountain top and look over and promised us we would some day inherit. so it is not where we were but it is also not ultimately where we're going. >> more progress to be made there. all right, melissa. thank you so much for that report. we appreciate it. we'll be talking with you in a little bit. joining me now for more on selma and a few new political twists former republican senator kay bailey hutchinson and former vermont governor and dnc chairman howard dean. senator, let me start with you. we just heard president obama speaking yesterday about voting rights. democrats say the new laws are designed to limit voting among minority groups. would republicans actually gain more, though by changing their stance on that and maybe creating some goodwill among unlikely gop voters? >> oh i think that absolutely the republicans and everyone should assume we want free and open voting. and i think if they can apply it to everyone to every state, not
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just a few states in the south, but to every state to have a clear road to voting for qualified citizens of our country. >> governor, i want to bring you in. is there a need for a new voting rights act? and does someone have the wherewithal and the will and the power to make that happen? >> well the voting rights act has been undone not so much as a racist way of doing things. it's about power. the people are being disenfranchised, often members of minority groups they're democrats. our base is very diverse. our base is probably lower income, i'm guessing, than the republican base. and so the attack on voting rights has to do with eliminating things like early voting or reducing it eliminating sunday voting. these kinds of things that make it easier for working people to go to the polls. i think senator hutchinson is right. i think the fix may be here not simply to look at the south,
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which used to have these and still in some cases does restrictive things. i think the thing is to look at the whole country. you have states like ohio who are reducing the amount of time that's available to go vote. that's not a southern state. and they need some supervision as well. >> so who would have the political capital to fix this? >> well, i think the democrats will do it. partly because our party is very diverse and that's our base. and partly because it's simply a power play. it's good for us when more people vote. so i think -- i don't think this congress is particularly interested in dealing with the voting rights. >> senator, we should note though, that speaker boehner put out a statement recognizing the anniversary of the selma march. neither he nor senator majority leader mitch mcconnell came to selma, and they didn't offer an explanation. what kind of message does that send? >> well i think that mitch and john boehner have both been very respectful of this 50th anniversary anniversary. and i think the president was
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the star here as well as the congressman. i don't think it is a bad message that they weren't there. i don't know what their conflicts were or if they were included in the program or not. but i do think that the effort to assure that history is remembered and learned by our next generation is very important. and i think that president george bush was very supportive of this and the selma issue to make sure that if we remember that we never allow something like that to happen again. and i think we saw the progress at selma. for the 50th anniversary, we had a black president and the congressman there who was there 50 years ago introducing him. and i think that's an uplifting message in its own right. >> yeah quite a historic sight to see that play out.
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governor, i'm going toe switch gears now. i'm going to talk about hillary clinton and this e-mail situation that's brewing into a bit of a scandal. we're still waiting to hear more about it. is this going to cost her votes? does it disturb you at all? >> it disturbs me a lot. the reason is because this is a press pac reporting at its very worse. there's nothing illegal she did. she's asked the e-mails to be released. this is pac journalism at its very, very worst. the fact is that the law was changed after she left. there was no legal violation. this is a nothing story drummed up by the right and the media has picked it up. it's ridiculous. it's going to go away by itself. just like benghazi there's no stub stance to it at all. it reminds me how awful the press can be when something like this -- this is like blood in the water. >> let me ask you this. why doesn't she just come out and say something about it?
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besides a tweet, just put it to rest. >> no, it makes it worse. you should not have to defend yourself against something that's a concoction of the right wing bought by the press. i think it's embarrassing for the media in this country. the facts are that in 2014 the president signed a law that would not permit people to use their home e-mails. that was 2014. that was after she left the office. >> what about this personal server at her home? does that not cause you to throw up some red flags? >> of course not. for god's sake she's the secretary of state of the united states of america. she has to conduct private diplomacy. all these e-mails are going to be public subject to whatever intelligence has to say about it. this is a ridiculous story. the woman is doing her job, for god's sakes. >> senator, this follows the news that just a few weeks ago about foreign donors to the clinton family foundation. do you think the clinton camp is actually trying to get these stories out there now so they don't become campaign issues? >> well certainly that is a usual campaign effort to get the bad stuff out early and try
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to get it behind you. there's no question about that. i do think there is a right of every person to have private e-mails, but i also think doing official business on private e-mails is not -- it was never in the rules. it was against the rules. and it's something that we should not have. i hope that as this all unfolds that hillary clinton secretary clinton, would make sure that there isn't some insider look at what's important or what's relevant or what is official but an independent body. i think that would clear this out and make it a nonissue if there is a real effort to get the official documentation, particularly when there was an ambassador killed in benghazi. i think those are important
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things to make sure that there's an independent look. >> well, governor i'm going to switch gears one more time because i want to get your opinion on this. former president clinton spoke out about the foreign donations his foundation accepts yesterday. take a listen to what he said. >> we do get money from other countries, and some of them are in the middle east. the uae gave us money. do we agree with everything they do? no, but they're helping us fight isis. hillary and chelsea were just up here talking about women and girls. do i agree with all the foreign policy of saudi arabia? no, but i think it's pretty impressive that the recent king who just died built the first co-educational institution in saudi arabia and they have more women than men in colleges. >> all right. so the former president is a very savvy politician but talking about accepting money and saying well, you know, they're advancing women's rights. is that a good rational?shtionalerationale?
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>> this is an issue everyone faces. right now you have the koch brothers giving money to gay rights. do you want to take the koch brothers' money for something that's seen as good? every foundation faces this. i think it's a difficult issue. i think what they decided at the clinton foundation to do was to take this money, some of which was very large donations, so they could do what most of us would think would be good including in a nonpartisan way, dealing with various diseases in africa supporting women's rights in countries where women are repressed. it's always a problem in every foundation to take so-called tainted money for a good cause. and each foundation has to decide. i'm very supportive of doing that. i think it's a tough choice, but i think the good doesn't get done unless you take the money. >> governor dean and senator hutchison, thank you for joining me today. american millennials are thought to be well educated and savvy, especially in the digital
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all right. so how prepared are millennials to enter the work force? a new study shows not very. it found they are lagging behind their international counterparts even more than in the last decade. so how bad were the findings? take a look at this washington post headline. abysmal is what it says. the test was given to adults in 23 countries. it tested their thinking abilities and workplace skills. when the testing company looked into the performance of millennials, which are people aged 16 to 34 this is what they found. in lit ra say, americans scored higher than only three countries countries. in math, americans ranked last. in technical problem solving they were second from the bottom. all right. joining me now to talk about all this is madeline goodman, a researcher with the educational testing service. in fact, you were the one who called it abysmal, right? >> yes, i mean i think that i
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wouldn't have exactly -- that was a slight misquote. so i think that no -- >> so just bad? >> they're just bad. not abysmal across the board. certainly very bad and something to be concerned about. >> i want to give our viewers a look at a sample question. it asked test takers to write the temperature the arrow is pointing to at the thermostat. the correct answer was a range between 77.7 and 78.3. pretty straightforward, right? i don't understand how this could be so wrong according to test takers. are there any other questions that seemed really straightforward that they completely missed and it has you scratching your head? >> well you have to understand too, that this is a good question to select because this is a number question. we did give results for all three scales literacy numeracy, and technology. it was in numeracy that we performed the poorest and where it was sometimes the most concern. also, it was a concern to us
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because numeracy scores are highly correlated to the labor market. it's a very important skill to have. my point here is that there's a range of scores that people can get and a range of difficulties. that was a very low, maybe a level one on a scale of one to five. so that would have been pegged at a very low level. but there were some people that did not get even those items correct. >> does it have you scratching your head, thinking okay wait these are americans, millennials. they have access to pretty good education, we would think, compared to some parts of the world, right. so how are they getting so many answers wrong? >> i think that -- the purpose of our report was to not only point to these low scores, and in particular in numeracy and that they've shifted over time. two other main points one, that our millennials are getting more education but are less skilled, even though they're having a greater level of higher education. secondly, that we really try to
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locate this problem in a larger issue of inequality of opportunity and of income in america because some people have more access than others. and the more people that have access to very particular kinds of high levels of education and high skills are going to have higher renumeration in the labor market. this will just exasperate issues of inequality we were attempting to point out. >> now we know there's a lot of work to do. thank you so much. >> thank you. coming up the four little words that threaten to strip health insurance from millions of americans. that is next. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping. it's a significant improvement over the infiniti we had... we went around the country talking to people who made the switch to ford. the brand more people buy. and buy again. oh i love it... we test-drove the escape... we both said, "i think that's the one"... and i really enjoy the pep in its step... that's the ecoboost... when the four of us go out we don't take their car...
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it may take until june before we hear a supreme court ruling that could turn the country's health care law upside down. the court heard arguments wednesday in king versus burell over subsidies to the affordable care act. so at issue, a four-word phrase in the law. it says tax subsidies that help millions of low and middle-income americans afford conch are available to those
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that are established by the state. those are the four words. that's critical because only 16 states have exchanges up and running. 37 states have exchanges run by the federal government. obamacare enrollees in those states could see subsidies disappear. attorney steven engel joins me to try to interpret what we saw at the supreme court. steven, thanks for being with me today. >> thanks for having me. >> how strong a case to the challengers, the people who want to toss out obamacare, have here? >> well look they have the text of the statute on their side. as you just showed the statute says subsidies go to an exchange established by the state. that seems pretty clear. the problem, of course is that the whole law tends to break down because only 16 states have established exchanges, and 34 are actually set up by the federal government. so there's a question of whether those four words, if they mean what they say, threaten the whole structure of the statute. >> well is wording the sole
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factor? what about the intent of it all? >> sure. well the best way to know what congress intended usually is to look at the words in the statute. on the other hand, the justices have to be mindful of the consequences of their interpretation. so what we saw at oral argument was a lot of hemming and hawing about what the impact of giving these words their little interpretation would have on the rest of the statute. >> you were clerk for justice kennedy. he appeared to find constitutional problems with the case against the health care act. is it possible to read from his questions which way he may be leaning? >> i think he has questions of both sides. and i think, you know -- i would hesitate to read too much into it. what he did see, though and what a number of the justices saw was concerns not so much with the loss of subsidies but with the rights of states because if congress is telling the states they have to set up these exchanges or else their citizens are going to lose billions of dollars of
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subsidies, is congress unconstitutionally coercing the states? that was a federalism concern that justice kennedy took very seriously. >> chief justice roberts was quiet during the arguments. can you draw any conclusions from that? >> well, it certainly was unusual that he was quiet. i think it's safe to say he tends to be a fairly aggressive questioner, like a number of the justices. i think -- now, it could be -- obviously he was the swing vote the decisive vote three years ago in the last challenge. it could be that he was looking to avoid tipping his hand. maybe he was just thinking hard and listening to the questions that the other justices have were raising. >> the court was expected to vote on the case on friday. do you think it's already decided? >> well, yes and no. the justices did vote on friday. nine times out of ten, or maybe 95 times out of 100, that vote ends up being where the court goes. but the court takes several months to write its opinions. sometimes justices can change
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their minds after the conference. in fact, if news reports are true, that's actually what happened three years ago with the last obamacare case. so we won't know for sure until the court issues its opinion in june. >> so it'll be june before we find out anything? >> i think that's likely yes. >> all right. well, thank you so much for breaking it down. i guess we got a waiting game here to see how this plays out. we appreciate your insight. >> sure. thank you. >> absolutely. stay with us as we continue to commemorate 50 years in selma, alabama. this is a live picture where thousands are gatthering right now. we'll hear from some of those in the crowd. and after a year there's a new twist in the search for that missing malaysian airliner. the big question why didn't we hear about this a lot earlier? ♪ [ piano background music begins ] ♪ when i was on wall street i felt trapped in that i was investing in a health care industry that i didn't believe in. for years i really struggled with this idea that people were making money off my illness and i wanted to do something different and so i finally made that change. [thunder and rain]
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latest theories hold any water? it's a bridge from the past and to the future. a journey in selma today retraces the steps of history. we'll hear from some of those who are there right now. and curing death. is living forever an impossible dream? well, not if a secret google science project pans out. hello, everyone. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." i'm betty nuguyen in for alex today. here's what's happening. the fatal shoot ofging of an unarmed black man by a wisconsin police officer is sparking protests. 19-year-old tony robinson died friday night after he was shot in an apartment during a confrontation with police. nbc's ann thompson is following the story. what do you know so far about this? >> well, what we know is that
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wisconsin authorities are trying very hard to avoid the massive and sometimes violent protests that we saw in ferguson and new york as they try to keep the state capital calm in the wake of this weekend's police shooting. protesters took to the streets in madison, wisconsin. >> black lives matter! >> after friday night's police shooting of 19-year-old tony robinson jr., a young black man with no weapon. >> when do our children get to just be children? >> i want to be very transparent. he was unarmed. >> madison police chief mike koval said the officer who killed robinson is 12-year veteran matt kenny. in 2007 kenny was involved and cleared in another fatal shooting that koval described as suicide by cop. tapes of local police transmissions captured the start of the incident as officers responded to a complaint.
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>> look for a male black, light-skinned, tanned jacket and jeans, outside yelling and jumping in front of cars. 19 years of age. >> more police calls came in with reports robinson assaulted people before running into an apartment. the chief says kenny followed the suspect, heard a disturbance, and forced his way into the apartment where the suspect attacked him. >> shotted fired. shots fired. >> copy. shots fired. >> kenny is now on administrative leave. robinson's family is mourning and calling for calm. >> i'm asking for peace, but i'm asking you to stand and say this is wrong. >> the police chief calls robinson's death a tragic loss. >> i mean to make this a very public show of our remorse and contrition for his loss. 19 years old is too young. >> in fact the police chief met with robinson's grandparents early saturday morning to convey his condolences in person.
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under wisconsin law when there is a case of police deadly force, the investigation is handled by an outside third party. in this instance it's the state department of criminal investigation. betty? >> all right. nbc's anne thompson. thank you. >> now to selma, alabama, and 50 years ago this was the scene of violence and hatred. today the edmund pettus bridge is a scene of remembrance and triumph. thousands of americans of all races are gathered there to march in the footsteps of civil rights icons of 1965. joining me now from selma is msnbc's melissa harris-perry. good to see you again. we're now, what a couple hours away from the march in remembrance remembrance. what's the mood like there as they gather and wait for this? >> well, it's been a very exciting day where i'm standing. we're at brown chapel which has a great history in this selma movement. it is where the protesters staged before they marched each
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day. i actually had an opportunity to meet the daughter of the man who has now passed on but was actually the director of security here at the church during those selma years. they were at all points trying to protect themselves against potential white supremacy attacks that could have attacked the actual physical church and also trying to protect themselves at times against the local and state police forces who were, of course, interested in breaking up the activism and the marches that were occurring here. so right now at that chapel is a worship service. it's a worship service that is both kind of sunday morning service but that has very particular meaning on this day, 50 years after the march that led ultimately to the passage of the voting rights act. martin luther king iii is speaking right now. and a little bit later on in the service, attorney general eric holder will speak. again, after releasing that scathing report about the ferguson police department this week that in many ways resonates
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with what happened in selma 50 years ago. so what i would say is that it's sober, it's worshipful, but there's also a kind of spirit of engagement and of willingness to go forward in this struggle. >> yeah we're taking a live look as we're talking to you of that service that's taking place right now. and we've also been talking all weekend about this overriding sentiment to honor how far the country has come. where does that fight lead now? >> i think there are several clear areas that have been articulated repeatedly. one is the voting rights act. the voting rights act, which was passed on the heels of bloody sunday here in selma, alabama, 50 years ago, has been gutted by the supreme court of the united states in the shelby v. holder decision, which invalidated the section four formula which provided for the section five preclearance for so many areas of the country that have since
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passed restrictive voting legislation. so undoubtedly the first is strengthening the voting rights act. the second is really about economic development. in the final years of martin luther king jr.'s life, he was focused on the questions of economic inequality housing inequality, and there's been great focus on that here. and i think the third is the question of where we go together racially as a nation and whether or not we are prepared to really start having the tough, honest and sometimes painful conversations required to do racial healing. >> all right. msnbc's melissa harris-perry. we'll be checking in with you shortly. we'll be covering today's re-enactment of the bloody sunday march beginning at 3:00 eastern here on msnbc. can you believe it's been one year ago today? 239 people went missing in the indian ocean on malaysian airlines flight 370. a new report shares new discoveries about that flight. coming up former faa accident
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investigation director steve wallace will join us to discuss the findings. a leading democrat today is calling on hillary clinton to go public with details of how she handled her e-mails while serving as secretary of state. california democrat senator diane feinstein said today it is time for mrs. clinton to clarify her e-mail issue. >> what i would like is for her to come forward and say just what the situation is because she is the preimminent political figure right now. she's the leading candidate, whether it be republican or democrat, for the next -- to be the next president. and i think that she needs to step up and come out and state exactly what the situation is. you know some people say -- >> you think the silence is hurting her? >> i think at this point, from this point on the silence is going to hurt her. >> all right. i want to bring in nbc's senior
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political editor mark murray to talk about this. do you agree with that? i spoke earlier with former governor howard dean. he said she doesn't need to say anything, just let this go. >> well, howard dean even mentioned he knows something about reporters and being the front runner and getting a lot of tough questions and being in the media scrum. but betty, when all the sudden you're hearing other democrats end up saying that hillary clinton has to come answer all the questions, you did know where this is probably going to end up. there's almost going to be no choice for hillary clinton to be able to answer all the questions that reporters have and take actions. that's sometimes one of the hallmarks of crisis management 101 when it comes to politics. when you find yourself in trouble, you answer the questions presented to you and try to take action to say, okay in the case of these e-mails, here are the e-mails i have here's the timetable for that release. by the way we can be assured that any of the e-mails that reporters and other people congressional investigators might want, here's how you can
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access those. i think that's what we'll be looking for. of course, she doesn't have a presidential campaign right now. she gets to operate in a situation where presidential candidates might -- where she might have a little more leeway. i would expect her to have that kind of explanation coming soon. >> well, mrs. clinton is not new to this game. she's a savvy politician. are you surprised she hasn't got out ahead of this? >> that goes back to the point of not having a campaign that's up and running. when you end up having a campaign and you have your bevy of communications experts, your political advisers everyone giving you recommendations, and if she actually decided to do and go out and get all this behind her a lot of it has to do with considerations to what the presidential canalmpaign is going to be. when you do have a campaign it's often a lot easier to respond and also to fight back. >> well the president yesterday told cbs how he heard of this
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e-mail issue, if you will. take a listen to what he had to say. >> mr. president when did you first learn hillary clinton used an e-mail system outside the u.s. government for official business while she was secretary of state? >> the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. >> were you disappointed? >> let me just say that hillary clinton is and has been an outstanding public servant. she was great secretary of state for me. the policy of my administration is to encourage transparency. >> so how do you interpret that statement from the president? >> tons of praise for hillary clinton when she was secretary of state. and of course president obama's words there were very genuine. they have much affection for each other after their bitter 2008 primary. but i would argue in that clip you don't hear much of a defense from the president. he ends up saying there should be transparency. he's essentially kind of agreeing with what diane feinstein ended up saying in that earlier clip that hillary clinton needs to come out and deliver the e-mails and explain
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and answer all the questions. >> do you think anyone's happy with the way hillary clinton has handled this? i guess besides howard dean. >> you know when you are in the media scrum, sometimes it doesn't matter how you handle it. of course, what matters is how you handle it correctly. sometimes it would be a mistake to come out and answer every reporters' questions saying your going to promise all these materials when you can't promise those materials and you really haven't answered all the questions. so for her, if she's going to come out public and i would imagine she ends up doing, so you have to do it with all the facts and everything on your side because otherwise it would be ineffective. >> got to have those ducks in a row. mark murray thanks so much for joining us. >> thanks. in a moment, making police more accountable for opening fire. how one wisconsin legislator is aiming to do just that. also ahead, a fisherman makes a heartbreaking discovery in a river, but the outcome could have a happy ending. and do you want to live forever?
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there's some new insight into the fatal shooting of an unarmed black man by a white madison, wisconsin, police officer that's prompted protests from local residents. crowds chanting "black lives matter" marched through the streets of wisconsin's capital city this weekend. the young man was shot during a confrontation in an apartment. state officials will investigate the shooting. let's bring in wisconsin state representative kris taylor to talk more about this. thanks for being with us today. >> thanks for having me. >> you were in the neighborhood of the shooting friday night. what did you hear and see? >> right. well, i was at the gas station right across the street. when i entered the gas station, i saw commotion on the other side of the street police cars shouting.
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then i realized the people in the gas station were actually crouching behind their cars. they had shouted to me to not get out of my car. so i hid in my car, heard some popping sounds which i was assuming was maybe shots. then i heard sirens and heard the other police cars and there was an ambulance that showed up. then i stuck around and saw what looked like a person on the side porch, looked like officers trying to administer some kind of aid. then unfortunately that person was put on a stretcher and put in an ambulance and taken to the hospital. that person was tony robinson, who later died at the hospital. it's a horrible tragedy and a horrible situation. my heart goes out to the families and to our community. >> yeah i could see it on your face and hear it in your voice that this was very disturbing to you, very tragic. not only to be near but to understand what had happened
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once you put all the pieces together. what have you learned from officials about that? because you gathered information on the street as you were watching this play out. what have officials told you? >> well what we learned was there was some kind of disturbance, that there was people who had called about tony robinson concerned that he was -- these are allegations, these are not proven but that he was in the street that he had made some threats to people. you know i didn't witness any of that. what i am confident is because we have an independent investigation process in wisconsin, we're the first state to mandate that so i'm very proud of that and i'm very confident we're going to have an independent, transparent investigation where a lot of these questions that we have right now and a lot of the concerns that we have are going to be addressed. >> i want to get to that. you were the cosponsor of a law that really mandates investigations be done by an outside agency. why did you push for that law?
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>> because we had an officer-involved shooting just blocks from this incident. i realized the process of the investigation could be done so much better. it needed to be done more independent. it needed to be done in a way that was fair that the community had confidence in. so by working with republicans, we got a law passed that does require these independent investigations to make sure the public has confidence to make sure that everything is being done possibly in these investigations so we get the best product. now the next step is to push for an independent review board who looks at the investigation, makes sure everything was done makes sure there's no lingering questions. so i'm going to be calling on my legislative colleagues who supported the independent investigation, bipartisan everyone voted for it. i'm going to be going to them and governor walker to get their support of the next step. that's making sure that these investigations were done as author rely as comprehensively
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as possible. >> let's look at the timeline here. friday's shooting is the third by madison police since the law went into effect. how long do these investigations usually take? >> well they've taken months frankly. you know they're not quick. i want them to be thorough. i want them to be accurate. so i think we do need to give the division of criminal investigations, the division doing this independent investigation, we need to give them time because we want the best product. we want the best result. we want the thorough result. we want our questions answered. my understanding from talking to them yesterday, they interviewed me very thoroughly is they are in there right now collecting the facts, doing what they need to do to make sure that we have the best most independent investigation that we can get. >> you talk about independent investigations, being very thorough. has the community, though been satisfied with the results of prior investigations? >> well, what led to this law in the first place was, no the community was not satisfied at
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all. now we've had a year since this law was passed. so now we have -- people know about the law. we have protocols in place. we have processes in place. the division of criminal investigation has had a year. they're called in a lot -- >> and are they happy with that? is the community happy with it? >> i think there still are concerns. we have horrible racial disparities in the state of wisconsin. we have racial disparities in the criminal justice system that are totally and completely unacceptable. so there's a suspicion. and there is concern. there should be that concern. but what i'm trying to make sure is that the process is being followed, the law is being followed. >> all right. well, representative chris taylor, thank you so much for joining us today. we appreciate it. so think of a self-driving car. that's something pretty big, right? it's pretty exciting to even fathom. well google's latest project hopes to find the cure for death. how about that one? that's next. the world is filled with air. but for people with copd
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i'm excited about this because developments in science are giving new fuel to the endless quest for immortality. now billionaires are jumping in on the action. according to this latest "newsweek" cover story, they're investing millions in research organizations and pharmaceutical groups to stop and extend the ageing process. joining me now is betsy isaacson contributor to "newsweek" and wrote that cover story. this is just fascinating to me, betsy betsy. so one of the founders of google, you talked to him about this. they're spending lots of money trying to figure out the key, the fountain to youth, everlasting youth. how plausible is this? >> so i think it's very plausible that we are going to start living for much longer. there have been a lot of advances very recently that may cause us to be able to live for much, much longer than we currently do.
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i don't know if we're ever going to be able to become immortal. that's a big deal and probably -- >> or if we even want to. >> of course in some paradigm shift. there have been plenty of advances that are really exciting because maybe we could live to 120. maybe we could live to 200 years. >> 200 sounds good to me right? that's not bad. as long as 100 of those years are in my 30s. that's just fine. or 20s, better yet. why not go to the 20s? let me ask you this. what is google doing specifically to try to find this fountain of youth? >> so google has been fairly secretive. they're running an initiative called project calico that has a mission statement that basically says, we want to try and cure death. but they have not been very public about what they're doing. there's rumors that they're doing some research on a gene called fox-03 which is connected to long life. but there have been a lot of
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tech billionaires like larry ellison, who was ceo of oracle, and peter thiel, co-founder of paypal. >> a lot of billionaires investing money. >> a lot of tech billionaires. >> is it a pill? is it some kind of -- i don't know what. i don't know how you would help people live forever. >> right. so in 1956 there was an experiment where basically two mice were attached together by the bloodstream, which is sort of ghastly. one of the mice was old and decrepit and unhealthy. one of the mice was young and extremely healthy. what they found when they attached the two bloodstreams together was the young mouse started ageing prematurely and the old mouse started almost reversing in age, started acting and looking like it was younger. and so in 1956 they didn't really know what to do about this. it was sort of a dead end. then in 2004 a doctor at harvard picked up this experiment again repeated it
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and was able to isolate the protein that was responsible for the effect which is a protein called gdf-11. then she did an experiment where instead of attaching together bloodstreams, she just injected gdf-11 into mice. those mice also seemed to reverse in age, seemed to get younger. >> gdf-11 keep your eye on that. that could be the key. this is so very fascinating. who knows? maybe it will happen. would you sign up for it? >> i would certainly sign up for 200, 300 more years. i'd have to think really hard about eternal life. >> and what would we do with the population if there are more and more babies? >> go to space. go to mars. >> true. there's a whole universe out there. thank you so much betty. well inequality between the sexes, a global call for help. that's next. it's a fact. kind of like shopping hungry equals overshopping.
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alabama, for a ceremonial march across the ed mund pettus bridge. it comes a day after president obama stood in solidarity at the foot of that bridge 50 years since civil rights marchers were beaten back by police. trymaine is in selma for us. what's happening where insure. >> there are thousands of people kwho have converged on selma, alabama. thousands at the edmund pettus bridge, where police brutalized demonstrators who were pushing for voting rights. here outside of brown chapel there are hundreds if not a thousand more outside. inside, attorney general eric holder is speaking now. so many people have come from all across the country, including washington, d.c., and new york, but also ferguson missouri, where folks have been protesting the killing of unarmed black teen michael brown. i have one of those organizers from ferguson tory russel. i want to ask you, 50 years ago young people were fighting here in this town for voting rights. how do you see the mantle being passed, and has there been enough progress?
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>> progress i'd probably say no. it's the same racism in ferguson. the voting rights act, i believe, was never protected under the law. 50 years after that, it's the same thing. i think there's a bigger issue. i think it's now the civil rights movement, it's more like a human rights issue. >> not unlike 50 years ago when we saw groups battling it out with dr. king and others from sclc, there's some tension between ferguson protesters and the establishment. are you seeing that here? how do you think you can move past this to unify the message? >> i think it's more concretely the establishment. you get big bucks. >> and as an organizer and protester, what does it mean for you to be here in selma to commemorate the hard-fought victories but also the bloody losses? >> it just brings it to full
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circle. being on the edmund pettus bridge, where john lewis and some of the organizing took place, the church makes me feel good. first baptist church. it's just coming full circle. realigning our history. >> that's right. yesterday when the president spoke, he said that not only should we be commemorating the past but finding a way to take concrete action now. he said there's nothing more american than the protests that happened in selma and the protests that happened on that bridge 50 years ago. >> all right. trymaine thank you so much. we'll be covering today's re-enactment of the march 50 years ago at 3:00. let's get back to the controversy surrounding hillary clinton's e-mails. earlier we heard diane feinstein say that her silence will hurt her. but long-time clinton family friend lenny davis sees it differently. >> i have an observation that it was for convenience, the same
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reason why -- and i'm not saying it's the same thing -- that jeb bush for eight years used his private e-mail account and a server. nothing wrong with what he did. colin powell. i think it is convenience. i think wisdom is in hindsight, but i won't be surprising you that this is much to do about nothing. >> joining me now to talk more about this is msnbc political reporter alex seiswold. alex, is thris much to do about nothing, sor senator feinstein right, that hillary's silence will hurt her? >> i think when you have a senior democratic senator like diane fein sfiensteinfeinstein, the former chair of the intelligence committee, and one of the first senators to endorse hillary clinton's noncandidacy, you have to take is seriously. certainly the republicans are seizeing on the comments.
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i think she's right. politically, at least, clinton's silence so far on the comments probably does hurt her, raises some questions. they have a decent story to tell here, but they're so far not telling it. last night i was in miami at the clinton global initiative university conference. hillary clinton spoke for about 18 minutes but didn't touch this controversy. bill clinton came on later, and he addressed a different controversy but not the e-mails. just a couple hours ago, i was with bill clinton again at a different event. he was asked whether he thought his wife was being treated unfairly. he didn't take the bait. he said he has an opinion, but he's not going to speak about it. so far, we're still not hearing, you know, a lot from the official clinton camp. >> well president obama also addressed the personal e-mail accounts. take a listen to what he had to say about it. >> mr. president, when did you first learn that hillary clinton used an e-mail system outside the u.s. government for official business while she was secretary of state? >> the same time everybody else learned it through news reports. >> were you disappointed? >> let me just say that hillary
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clinton is and has been an outstanding public servant. she was a great secretary of state for me. the policy of my administration is to encourage transparency. >> alex you've been speaking with students at this cgi conference. what's their reaction to this e-mail controversy? >> you know they're sort of not fazed by it. almost everybody that i've talked to has either defended secretary clinton or just not even been aware of it. i think that's true for a lot of voters. last week i talked to more than a dozen activists and democratic party officials on the ground in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina the three early presidential states. all of them said it hadn't really broken through to voters. but i still think, you know, when you have the president responding to it when you have it leading the news and top senators addressing it this is a major political issue, and it's something that she's going to have to address and could continue popping up and causing troubles for her down the road. >> all right. alex thanks so much for joining us today.
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this weekend the nation is remembering the fight for equality against the backdrop of selma, and it coincides with the continued fight for women's rights. in bangladesh and all around the world, people are celebrating international women's day. here in new york city supporters are gearing up for a march organized by the u.n., a march that was started more than a century ago. nbc's richard lui is at the u.n. richard, what are you hearing from people out there today? >> betty, a very good day to you. yeah 1908 is when a group of women marched in new york city for equal pay, and that's where we are today, in manhattan as we begin a walk in about an hour. they're preparing for up to 50,000 individuals. here with me right now is the head of u.n. women, the executive director who's an actor. also, part of the campaign today
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and the campaign is he for she, that you're pushing out right now. >> yes, it is a campaign of men who want to stand for gender equality, talk about it and take action. and here today we're calling for men to do that but also we're calling for 50/50 planet by 2030. >> and we can do that. that's very possible. paul why are men important in this campaign for gender equality? >> well i'm here for my daughter but i'm also here for my two boys who have the right also to grow up in a world free of gender inequality. i was introduced to this campaign in making a film about homelessness in new york city. in the research for that i was introduced to some staggering statistics. of course, faced with a smaller job market and lower wages, women are at a huge disadvantage
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when they're faced with the woeful lack of affordable housing in new york city. you know last month we passed a couple of milestones in new york. an apartment sold for $100 million, and 60,000 of its inhabitants sought shelter every night, 25,000 of them were children, 19,000 of them were women. almost half of new york city's homeless population are families usually headed by a single mother you know. and they often face domestic violence at home. that makes houses that they might have unlivable. then they face -- so they're incredibly vulnerable to becoming homeless. then they face even more danger of violence and sexual harassment on the streets. so that's why i'm here. >> executive director the energy right now for gender
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equality, if you look at any time span and of course we've not lived centuries ago, but it would certainly seem that today the energy behind bringing focus to the need to fix gender equality, to look at violence against women is very strong right now. why is that? >> well i think because so much has been done already, the tv and media in general has exposed a lot of injustices. women are speaking up much louder. i think there's a generation of people that want to listen but we need action. because we are the first generation with a possibility to defeat poverty and to defeat gender inequality. those two things go together. >> now all of us are going to be in the march very shortly in about an hour from now. paul, what do you hope to accomplish by being in the march today as folks start to gather behind us? >> you know i don't know what celebrities can do.
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i'm told what they can do is help raise awareness. that's why i'm here. my response to this is a human being's response as was my response to seeing homelessness spiral out of control in the city. if you have a human response it's simply -- 70% of women have faced violent abuse from an intimate partner. 120 million girls worldwide every year experience sexual violence in this country. 80% of girls in grades 8 through 11 experience sexual violence. now, i have a daughter. and i can imagine what will happen likely happen to eight out of ten of her classmates. that's unacceptable abhorrent, and it must end. >> madam executive director? >> we're calling on everybody who is in new york and in the world to really take a stand. it is only when people act that we could see change because it's not good enough to be a good
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person, a good man, and a good woman and not act. we need action. >> thank you, both for stopping by today. as we finish this up here betty, we're about to begin that walk, a walk to times square. then we'll also have more speakers. there are many individuals here supporting international women's day. i know it's a parallel to what's happening in selma, alabama, as you were mentioning this fight for equality in many different areas. >> absolutely a parallel. thank you, richard, for that. an important day, an important walk in those two cities. both in new york city and selma, alabama. so one year ago today that, malaysia airlines flight disappeared and remains shrouded in mystery. now suddenly a surprising revelation has emerged that raises even more questions about what happened. that's next. the setting is perfect. but then erectile dysfunction happens again. you know what? plenty of guys have this issue not just getting an erection
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moments ago, eric holder spoke in the church where the march began today.
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he talked about enforcing voting rights laws in the wake of the 2013 supreme court decision knocking down the preclearance rules. >> while the court's decision removed one of the justice department's most effective tools, we remain undaunted and undeterred in our purr south of a meaningful right to vote for every eligible american. since the court us ruling we have used the remaining provisions of the voting rights act to fight back against voting restrictions in states throughout the country and we won. we won under the old act, won under the new act. >> again, that was attorney general eric holder just a short time ago. and we do want to remind you that we'll be covering today's reenactment of the bloody selma march. well one year ago to the day, malaysia airlines flight mh-370 just vanished. and a new report is out with never before heard details about the plane and the cargo it was
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carrying. family members, friends and supporters gathered to honor the 239 passengers and crew members who were onboard that plane when it vanished. also today, malaysia released a 548-page interim report beginning to shed a little light on the mh-370 mystery. >> i'm cautiously optimistic. given the plane is in the ocean. but we still cannot find the plane, then we have to go back to the drawing board. >> joining me now is former director of the faa accident investigation unit steve wallace. steve, thanks for being with us today. >> good afternoon, betty. >> well we just heard the transport minister saying if there are no new discoveries by may, they're going to have to go back to the drawing board. what should the next steps be in this investigation? >> well, i think they -- i remain optimistic that they will
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find this. there's just so much strong interest in doing that. this is a huge challenge. i'm not sure this latest revelation about the batteries being expired or whether they were out of date or what i don't know is so important. but certainly, the weather in may down there, the weather starts to get to the point where i think it is perhaps no longer worthwhile to continue. i think they're going to carry on with the best experts working to locate this. i remain optimistic they will succeed. >> we'll get to that battery issue in a minute. first, i want you to tell us about the reports. still leaves so many unanswered questions. >> right. well, all the questions are unanswered here. we say in accident investigation on the first day every possibility is on the table. and here we are exactly one year later, and every possibility is still on the table.
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i would say that the consensus among experts is in my opinion, as well, the most likely explanation for this is a criminal act either by an intruder or perhaps, even a rogue pilot. we've seen those things happen in past. events. >> but what would be the gain in that? is there any indication -- are you hearing any threads or any possible leads in that direction? >> well we had, you know we've had bombings. there's no indication of that here at all. modern aviation. most accidents are one off events. the system's gotten so safe that every accident is kind of a unique event. now, the kind of exception to that is acts. criminal acts. we've had at least two cases where the consensus of world experts is that pilots take planes down deliberately. that's a terrible thing to suggest.
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but we saw it happen with the silk air in 1997, with egypt air in 1999. most experts believe that the pilots took those planes down so that's one of the possibilities that's on the table here. >> well, steve, in this day in age, 2015 right, we all know this. shouldn't there be some way to ensure. shouldn't there be systems in place to make sure that a plane is never lost? >> well absolutely. and that is -- that is probably the single greatest call for improvement that came from this accident. and there have been steps taken. one is the duration of the recorder batteries, the locater devices on the recorders has now been changed to a minimum 90 days not sure if that would've made a difference here or not. but that change has already been implemented. and there's been a task force of the international air transport association that has recommended that aircraft be equipped with tracking devices. let me say that all aircraft are
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already equipped with tracking devices. but tracking devices, which cannot be disabled. >> and i want to get back to those batteries. that's the new information that we're learning. they may have been expired for a year. does that surprise you? and weren't there systems in place to make sure that doesn't happen? >> well certainly in a sophisticated aircraft maintenance system with cutercomputerized recordkeeping, that should not happen. now, i just learned it apparently did. i'm not sure whether that means that it was technically past the expiration date. you know, it's kind of like a can of food or something or whether it was really whether it was really not functioning. >> either way, though it is very disturbing to hear that. still one year later and we don't have any new answers as to what exactly happened. thanks so much for joining us today. >> thank you. >> and that wraps up this sunday edition of "weekend with alex witt." be sure to watch our special
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