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s a job killer. there are no good numbers out there that support this deal. that's what amazes me. senator sherrod brown -- >> 20 years of evidence for that, ed. that's exactly right. thank you. >> no doubt about it. senator, good to have you with us. appreciate your time. thanks so much. that "the ed show." i'm ed schultz. "politicsnation" with reverend al sharpton begins right now. good evening, rev. good evening, rev. thanks to you for tuning in. we start with developing news in the next fight for voting rights. this weekend, tens of thousands of people gathered in selma, alabama, for the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. and the bloody sunday march. they heard president obama's powerful call to fix the voting rights act. >> the voting rights act was one of the crowning achievements of our diplomacy. the result of republican and democratic efforts. president reagan signed its renewal when he was in office.
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president george w. bush signed its renewal when he was in office. 100 members of congress have come here today to honor people who are willing to die for the right to protect it. if we want to honor this day, let that hundred go back to washington and gather 400 more and together pledge to make it their mission to restore that law this year. that's how we honor those on this bridge. >> you can see former president bush applauding that statement because supporting the voting rights act didn't used to be a partisan issue. today, it's a different story. many of the gop lawmakers who went to selma don't want anything to do with actual legislation. senator jeff sessions claimed "i don't think the supreme court ruling has damaged voting rights in any real way." senator tim scott thinks "voting
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rights and selma should be decoupled." and house majority leader kevin mccarthy said the celebrations were only about history. "i think saturday is celebrating what those did before us to make this nation better, and that's what we're all looking for." but selma's more than about that. it's about the fight ahead as well. like the struggle to get loretta lynch confirmed as our first female african-american attorney general. the senate is considering a whole slew of nominees today, but still hasn't set a vote for miss lynch. it's wrong. they can do better. and we all need to keep the pressure on. >> selma shows us that america's not the project of any one person. because the single-most powerful word in our democracy is the
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word "we." we the people. we shall overcome. yes, we can. that word is owned by no one. it belongs to everyone. >> we come a long way, but we have a lot of work to do. senator chris coons, democrat from delaware. thank you for being here. >> thank you, reverend al. great to be with you. great to see you this weekend in selma. >> great to see you, senator. we were all there in different capacities but you were in selma this weekend carrying a copy of the bill to renew voting rights and the voting rights act. why did you carry that with you. >> well, reverend, i was carrying a copy of the bill as it was introduced in the last congress we senator leahy, senator durbin and myself to challenge my colleagues, republicans in particular, to think about coming on this bill when we introduce it here in the
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senate coming up likely in the next week or so. i was reminding them of the strong and brave tradition of the republican party that president obama specifically cited. it was republicans who helped lead the passage of the voting rights act back in 1965. it was republican president reagan who signed it and it was republican president george w. bush who signed it again. every previous time the voting rights act has been up for renewal or reauthorization there have been republicans who also supported it because they recognize voting rights are civil rights and are fundamental to our democracy. as you mentioned earlier, it's been very disappointing trust railing, so far we've not found a single republican senator willing to join us. one republican house member sensenbrenner who joined in the last. a party who was built on opposition opposition to racial oppression opposition to slavery.
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it's my hope we can find after this incredible and moving weekend in selma that we can still find some republican colleagues. i was carrying the bill with me so i could go up to them and say, will you join me in this bill? although i remain hopeful, so far not one. >> not one, not one republican. >> not one. >> because your republican colleagues, senator rob portman, told "politico" that after the supreme court gutted the voting rights act, it's "probably appropriate for us to take it up." but he said he just heard about congressman john lewis' bill saturday plorngmorning, saturday just passed. ahead of the ceremony. and he never read it or learned the details so he couldn't commit. i think, do you think senators like rob portman could sign on to your bill senator coons? >> i have to remain hopeful. some of the statements you just recited are, of course, frustrating and discourageing. the idea we have colleagues who didn't dig into it, didn't
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really tlichk abouthink about it is upsetting. the only way to make progress is to be hopeful. look, 50 years ago, reverend the marchers who gathered in brown chapel ame to head across the bridge had no earthly reason to believe thereat their peaceful nonviolent protest would actually lead to a fundamental changes in the system of racial oppression in this country. it was only faith. it was only hope that led them to that brave act and it's striking how much they were able to achieve, so we can't give up on this. without republican support, we can't fix the hole in the voting rights act that the current supreme court blew through it with the shelby county decision. it's tempting to simply just shake our fist and denounce republicans for not joining in this, but it's more appropriate in my role to keep at it to keep trying to see if we can't find some common ground and can't find just one who can help us move this bill forward. >> absolutely. you know senator, you also have served on the judiciary committee and a few weeks ago, you tweeted out this picture of
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yourself with loretta lynch. it says "loretta lynch is eminently qualified to be the attorney general. she deserves a vote. confirm lynch. "why is this taking so long senator coons? >> there is no good explanation for the remarkable delay. it's longer than any comparable attorney general nomination. there was, i think, no disagreement significant disagreement from republican members of the committee during her eight-hour confirmation hearing. she was composed. she was professional. she was diligent. the issue that they raised over and over had to do with the president's executive order on immigration. not her competency. not her qualifications. i think she'll be a terrific attorney general. and i think if we keep up the pressure we will inevitably see her confirmed. >> senatorcoons, thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you, great to be with you. flow let's bring in congressman greg meeks, democrat of new york who was in selma
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this weekend as well. and salon.com's joan walsh. thank you, both for being here. >> good being with you, rev. >> congressman, a lot of your republican colleagues who went to selma with all of us don't want to work on voting rights. how do you explain that? >> well, look reverend al what i'm hoping takes place here and i agree with what senator coons just said is that i was talking to a number of my republican -- i'm glad they came number one. but there was a number of them who were relatively young. so i'm hoping that they really had not studied and understood the real meaning of what the voting rights act stood for and why it is intricately important for them to work on it. when i go back to washington d.c., i'm going to talk to them and say, look this is an american issue that's not just for black folk but it's for all americans and if we're going to talk around the world about a democracy, then we've got to make sure that democracy happens right here in the united states.
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and appeal to them they went around john lewis, talking and taking pictures with john lewis, talking about what an inspiration he is. they have to understand that they can do today -- >> i think we have to put the pressure on from our various folks. let me go to something else that really stuck out like a sore tlum thumb to me all weekend in selma, joan. that is loretta lynch. i brought this up yesterday. i preached at the brown chapel. she was there. and they haven't confirmed her. attorney general holder spoke this weekend about the progress we've seen with an african-american woman about to serve as our attorney general. but i want to play something else he said. watch this. >> this is a cause for great optimism and it's a sign of tremendous progress. but progress is not the ultimate goal. equality is still the prize. still even now, it is clear that
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we have more work to do that our beloved community has not yet withinbeen formed and our society is not yet at a just peace. >> 121 days joan. >> yeah. >> nowhere have we seen this long amount of time this length of time, in modern american history. >> it's incredibly disrespectful to her and the president in my opinion, reverend al. now, she will be confirmed. she was confirmed by the committee. she's incredibly qualified. there are republicans who are going to bat for her. but this just seems to me like another way for mitch mcconnell to stick it in the eye of the president and not give him the person that he has asked for and the person that his republican colleagues have said okay to on the committee. it's really again, another example of disrespect and of treating this president in a way that other presidents haven't been treated. >> but isn't it also congressman, some petty partisan politics?
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because none of the republicans raised any objections to her. she was not even questioned on any controversies, any stands. they basically came after her about eric holder and their decisions with him, not that i saw anything he did wrong. but they had nothing on her, and then to just keep dragging this out, isn't this their petty politics with the president taking a shot at the president? >> absolutely. and it shows they are not ready to govern. you know, when you look and put into perspective, the whole thing shutting down dhs, coming close there, something the president talked about. immigration and executive orders. it is what mcconnell said the very day the president was inaugurated in 2008 to try to block and make this president's presidency very difficult. it's what he started out with and he has been consistent over the last eight years. it is petty politics. there is no way, i agree, that
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they could not confirm loretta lynch. she is eminently qualified. no one, not even the republicans playing their petty politics can challenge her credentials. >> you know, joan, today we're seeing big peaceful demonstrations in madison, wisconsin, after the shooting of an unarmed black man by a police officer. the incident is being investigated but isn't this the spirit of so many young people engaging in peaceful activism? i mean when you look at the fact that the president was asked about the state of race relations this weekend listen to what he said. >> why is there such a disparity in the way blacks whites see race relations? >> well, there's been obviously a different experience of race relations in this country. you know, the good news is despite i think a lot of people saying that the country is divided around these issues, the truth is in the aftermath of ferguson and what happened in
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new york you've seen a pretty constructive debate a pretty constructive conversation. >> and isn't that true whether it's madison today? whether it's what many of us raised in ferguson and new york, that we've made the country at least deal with this discussion of the continued racial inequities? >> absolutely. and to see those young people leave school and take over the capitol, they're in the capitol now, peacefully, again, they're being welcomed. they're being treated well as far as i know the last time i checked. >> right. >> and they're being respected because we've seen in ferguson and we've seen in new york we've seen elsewhere this is what young people and all of us, just not young people need to do. i would point to there's been a little bit -- it's a terrible thing any time an unarmed young black teenager is killed by police. but in this case the police chief did come out and express condolences immediately. he released the name of the officer. he told their account -- >> differently than ferguson. >> he offered completely different than ferguson. >> wisconsin has a different law
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in that an independent agency -- >> that's right. >> -- will do the investigation. so the police department is not involved in the investigation, themselves. it's an independent agency that will be involved. i'm proud of those young people. >> oh, yeah. >> that is definitely the spirit of selma. '65. >> they're doing it with dignity and nonviolence. >> absolutely. >> congressman gregory meeks, joan walsh, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks, rev. straight ahead, we will go live to oklahoma after a shocking fraternity video with racial slurs surfaces. plus more disrespect of the president. why on earth did senate republicans send a letter to iranian leaders? i have a lot to say on this one. and more of my reflections on the emotional weekend in
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everybody say -- ♪ amen ♪ >> everybody say -- ♪ amen ♪ ♪ amen ♪ ♪ amen ♪ >> the spirit of selma, a historic moment that i had the honor to share with president obama and tens of thousands of people. we'll have a wrap of the weekend's big events later in the show. but first, a disturbing story about a racist video and a frat shutdown in oklahoma. that's next. it's a fact. kind of like mute buttons equal danger. ...that sound good? not being on this phone call sounds good. it's not muted. was that you jason? it was geoffrey! it was jason. it could've been brenda.
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developing news tonight from the university of oklahoma. a fraternity chapter shut down after a racist video posted online. the video shows members of sigma alpha epsilon, or sae, chanting a racial slur and referring to lynching. >> that video came out on sunday. followed by another video taken from a different angle. apparently showing one member of the fraternity trying to wave away the camera person. it's short, so we looped it once.
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>> the incident triggered immediate protests. the fraternity's national headquarters closed the chapter. and the university president warned the students could face expulsion. >> i would say even up through and including expulsion, which is the ultimate ban on all student activities it could be that some will voluntarily take themselves out of the university. we don't have room for racists and bigots at this university. i'd be glad if they left. >> the video was first posted online by "unheard" a black student group at the university. joining me now, chelsey davis, co-director of "unheard" and britney jackson, a member of "unheard's" executive committee. first, let me thank both of you for being here. >> thank you for having us.
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>> thank you for having us reverend. >> chelsey, what was your reaction when you first saw this video? >> unfortunately, when i first saw the video, i wasn't shocked. however, i was absolutely disgust disgusted. the things we saw and heard in that video were not only unacceptable but offensive to every black student at the university of oklahoma. not only should african-americans be enraged at what was said and the derogatory terms that were used against us, but everybody in the nation should be infuriated with the activities that happened on that video yesterday. >> let me ask you, chelsea, does the video point to larger issues with the culture on campus? or is it an isolated incident in your opinion? >> most definitely. this is a dynamic change that needs to happen at the university of oklahoma. and on even a larger scale, the nation as a whole. this is a culture change that needs to happen. there is something wrong with the way people are thinking and the fact that they think that saying these terms and using these words are acceptable and okay it's absolutely disgusting and i -- i just can't believe that this is something that we
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are faceing even a years after selma. we as a people have come so far but have wretyet so far to go. >> chelsea, what is the mood on -- i mean sorry, britney, what is the mood on campus? and is there fear? is there anger? what is the mood on campus? >> it's definitely all of the above right now on campus, and i know a lot of people are focused on making sure we're being peaceful and that's why "unheard" wanted to make sure we set the tone of being constructive in the way we move and make sure people understand that it's okay to be angry about the situation. we as african-americans are angry and everyone else should be angry as well. but it's not about being angry but how we can be constructive to our university and making our university a better place. so, one of our grievances that with we are advocateing for for the university is have a vice president's office for diversity, for diversity and inclusion which a lot of universities have, but we don't. that's something that will really take our university to the next step.
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>> so you have a specific goal. do you know, brittani do you all know these people? do any of you know some of the students in this tape? >> no. we are not aware -- >> i do not. >> -- of nobody specifically in the tape. >> now, let me ask you about the university's response. chelsea, brittani talked about having a vice president of diversity. are you satisfied with the university's response? or do you want more? what is your reaction? >> i commend the university thus far as to what they have done so far. i commend president boren in his speech and everything he listed out for us. i especially commend the national organization for banning this chapter at the university. however, that is not enough. that will not be enough. it is not okay what they did. there is no -- there should be no point in time where anybody thinks that that is okay. all students involved should be expelled. >> well the president has said these people can be kicked out
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of school. we'll certainly be watching and we certainly are seeing the spirit of selma in you guys constructive and angry at the same time. brittani jackson, chelsea davis, thank you both for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, does senator mcconnell think he's the president? he's part of the gop's new attempt to undermine the commander in chief. also president obama's powerful rebuke to those who say he doesn't love america. but first, great moments in political censorship courtesy of rick scott administration in florida. shopping online is as easy as it gets. ♪ wouldn't it be great if hiring plumbers carpenters and even piano tuners were just as simple? thanks to angie's list, now it is. we've made hiring anyone from a handyman to a dog walker as simple as a few clicks.
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disrespect from senate republicans. 47 senators led by tom cotton of arkansas sent an open letter to iranian leaders warning any nuclear deal reached with the obama administration won't last after president obama leaves office. writing "you may not fully understand our constitutional system. president obama will leave office in january 2017 while most of us will remain in office well beyond then. maybe decades." today, the president is firing back. >> i think it's somewhat ironic to see some members of congress wanting to make common cause with the hardliners in iran. it's an unusual coalition.
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i think what we're going to focus on right now is actually seeing whether we can get a deal or not. and once we do then we'll -- if we do then we'll be able to make the case to the american people, and i'm confident we'll be able to implement. >> whatever happened to the politics stopping at the water's edge? it's another chapter of ugly disrespect from these republicans in congress. joining me now is dana milbank of the "washington post." thank you for being here. >> good evening, reverend. >> you know, this is another example of the gop taking unprecedented steps, dana but this letter wasn't just intended for iran. what point are they trying to make here? >> you know it really is like it's no longer a congress, it's now the breakaway state of republicania conducting its own foreign policy. first we had speaker boehner inviting netanyahu without consulting with the white house for the expressed purpose of having netanyahu criticize the
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administration over this same deal. and now we have the senate, not to be left out, taking its own foreign policy action here. so, i mean there are two things going on. the primary function is to disrupt and try to prevent them from getting to a deal on -- a deal with iran and the second is more generally to weaken and make the president ineffective in this final year and a half of office. >> but dana this is offensive. i mean did it used to be like this? i mean have you ever heard of anything like this under bush? reagan? >> no. each time we sort of say, it couldn't get any worse, we've never seen anything quite like this before, well, then you're surprised and you find out there could, indeed be something that goes further than this. so, it is something that has not really been seen before. i mean you had in 1968 richard
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nixon as a candidate sort of inserting himself into the vietnam war, but this is extraordinary and it's also -- >> but not writing people that are -- nbc's "first read" has a good comparison saying "imagine democrats micromanaging the "start" talks in the '80s by sending an open letter to gorbechev." can you imagine the backlash democrats would have had? >> no you couldn't imagine it even ten years ago with a democratic senator making overtures to other countries opposed to our actions in iraq. so, no certainly it's without precedent. the other part here is this is most of the very nearly all of the republicans in the senate. we're not just talking about the ted cruz the wackobirds as john
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mccain once called them. this is the republican caucus in the senate. >> now, you know this is just one of the many signs of disrespect dana from republicans toward the president. as he first took the oath of office, a group met to talk about how to block his agenda. in his first speech to congress congressman joe wilson yelled "you lie" out loud. >> uh-huh. >> donald trump led the call for him to release his birth certificate. arizona former governor waved a finger in president obama's face. congressman steve stockman invited the rodeo clown with an obama mask to come to the state of the union. and just recently speaker boehner invited israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu to speak to congress without asking the president. i mean you've chronicled a lot of these, dana. is there any denying this pattern of disrespect to this president? >> no, and it gets worse and worse with each passing day.
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now we have the majority leader of the united states senate suggesting that states and businesses need'nt follow environmental regulations of this administration, essentially urging them to do law breaking. we have 47 senators reaching out to what they describe as a terrorist state to further their agenda of procuring more sanctions. >> unbelievable. dana milbank, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks reverend. straight ahead, president obama's selma speech. why rudy giuliani should be listening. plus why is the right wing media in a frenzy over former president george w. bush's appearance at the march? and a big day in the tech world. the apple watch is here. will it sell? and we'll tell you why this woman has social media erupting today. "conversation nation" is next.
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speech from selma this weekend. on the 50th anniversary of bloody sunday. he delivered one of the most powerful speeches of his presidency. celebrating what it means to be american. >> that's what america is. not stock photos or airbrushed history. or feeble attempts to define some of us as more american than others. america's not some fragile thing. we are large in the words of. containing multitudes. we're boisterous and diverse and full of energy perpetually young in spirit. for everywhere in this country there are first steps to be taken. there's new ground to cover. there are nrmore bridges to be crossed. and it is you. the young and fearless at heart. the most diverse and educated generation in our history who the nation is waiting to follow. >> jason, some thought this
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sounded like a rebuttal to rudy giuliani and other republicans who reaccuse the president of not loving this country. your reaction? >> no, i think this is just president obama speaking from the heart. rudy giuliani, he's not even that important to president obama. i don't think he would waste his time throwing shade at him. >> i agree. >> at such an important event. i think he really spoke from the heart. this is one of the top four or five speeches i have heard president obama give. i have seen tons of them. i was there. he was moved by the moment and he gave an answer to the cynics. i thought it was fantastic when he said "you can't look at what happened in ferguson today and say we've made no progress in 50 years." he really explained that. i was impressed. >> i totally agree with jason. i mean it was a spectacular speech. it was moving. but do i think he had to in the back of his mind be thinking about this whole conversation about whether or not he loved america and what that means. i mean to love this country is to want to see it continually get better. and i loved also how he talked
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about not airbrushing history, but actually looking at history, right? and remembering the way that it really was at that moment. not just a sanitized view that we sometimes get in the media or we sometimes look back on history with. so, it was an exceptional moment. >> mark? >> yeah, no, i couldn't agree more, rev. look, the president loves this country enough to tell the truth about our history. >> right. >> and to tell the truth about our values and to frankly, confront some of the uglier parts of our nation's history. so when people like rudy giuliani go out there and say the president wasn't you know raised the same way he was, i mean, it's a hideous thing for him to say, first of all, but second of all, on some level, it's true. the president had a childhood, had an experience growing up that was different from rudy giuliani's because he's a black american and he faced adversity that rudy giuliani never had to. so i think the president sees where we are as a country, sees the progress we've made.
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loves us for the progress. you know what loves us for the warts and all. loves this country despite its sort of -- >> yeah i mean, i think you're right. i think that the president i don't think was thinking about rudy or anyone in particular. >> right. >> i was think he was trying to really address the whole idea of loving america, and not just himself, i think he was trying to interpret that for a lot of people that raised questions that he was saying doesn't mean they don't love the country this is what the country was. i thought it was an important part of a very very good very effective speech. but now to a controversy over another president. george w. bush. who was in selma. the former president joined the march and it was good to see him there. but some right-wing blogs were outraged over the weekend. "the new york times," alleging they intentionally cropped president bush out of its front page photograph. here's the picture as it appears
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in "the times." the newspaper pushed back saying there was no crop and explained that president bush was in the sunlight and difficult to see in this photo taken by another news organization. now, i might add, i'm in the beginning but i was on the side where there was sun. i thought all of us -- there was a small group in that delegation with the president and the former president. everyone was very courteous to president bush. there was no pushback. we wish more republicans had been there. mark rather than arguing over a photograph, shouldn't they and all of us be focussing on the fact that president bush was there? applauding voting rights. unlike many current leaders in the gop? >> absolutely, rev. look, the -- i wish the "daily caller" and publications spent as much time talking about the president's speech and talking about and writing about the historic moment, itself. and they don't -- you know conveniently forget to mention
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that "the new york times" did mention that president bush was up there on the stage with him and some of the accomplishments that the bush administration made in terms of civil rights. so it actually -- it just seems disingenuous. it seems so self-absorbed from the right right now. it seems like it's not about you, it's frankly not about the president. it's about 50 years ago and about john lewis and about the people who have been advocating for civil rights yourself included, rev. it was good to see you right behind the president's shoulder there. >> i think it's a sad symbol of how sad the gop and conservative movement has become that out of this great historical moment with an incredible speech, you know with at least an incredible unifying moment among former presidents, we like as you said rev, to see some current republican leadership there as well. >> i did see kevin mccarthy, the majority leader was there. >> thank you for pointing that out. >> all the primary candidates were out in iowa stumping. >> this is what you choose to focus on is just sad, frankly. it's pathetic. >> well, everybody stay with me. we'll be right back with the apple watch.
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now with the xfinity tv go app, you can watch live tv anytime. it's never been easier with so many networks all in one place. get live tv whenever you want. the xfinity tv go app. now with live tv on the go. enjoy over wifi or on verizon wireless 4g lte. plus enjoy special savings when you purchase any new verizon wireless smartphone or tablet from comcast. visit comcast.com/wireless to learn more. we're back with our panel. jason, kryastl, and mark. you might have heard there was a little tech event today. yes, you probably heard apple unveiled their latest invention today. the much anticipated apple watch. and as the company's ceo
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explained, it pretty much does everything. for $10,000, you can have the gold apple watch. krystal, will i see you in line at the apple store? >> absolutely not. as if i'm not distracted enough by my phone. the whole premise here, this is for people who are too lazedy to reach in their pocket and pull out their phone. >> yes. >> there's no way i would be able to focus for more than 30 straight if there was something on my wrist right here that had my e-mail and text messages and everything else. forget it. i don't want it. i think it will do well. >> jason, are we expecting to see you flashing an apple watch? >> first off no. you know the only thing i'm waiting in line for is the next "star wars" movie. i'm not waiting if line to get a new watch. doesn't make sense to me. in all honesty, almost the watches are like inspector gadget where it's a 3d image, i don't care. i can get that on my cell phone. i don't need it on my watch yet. >> mark? >> i'm waiting to see what this
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thing does. >> it does everything apparently. >> i don't know. all i want from a watch is to tell time. this thing is just fine for me. i don't think you can improve upon perfection. >> but this is the most innovative company in the world. the whole world looks to apple. >> yeah. i mean i think it's cool. you can pay with it. you can get your e-mail messages there. >> i can do all that stuff now. >> apparently do facebook. you can do it all now but have to reach all the way into your pocket. >> let me rush to the next stop. finally tonight, oh baby meet the soon-to-be mom creating a firestorm on social media. model sarah stage is documenting her pregnancy on instagram. she's 8 1/2 months pregnant. her tiny stomach and six-pack abs have a lot of people wondering, is it healthy? one wrote, "self-centered and narcissistic. just my opinion." another wrote, "she needs to
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feed that baby instead of worrying about how to keep her figure." krystal, you're the mother to two. what's your reaction? is that narcissism? >> my reaction is we need to stop judging women for the way that they look regardless of whether they're too skinny or too fat or too this or too that. if she's healthy, and she feels good, there are lots of different ways to look when you're pregnant. i think she looks great. i think lots of pregnant ladies look great in the body that they end up with. >> all right. guys jason, mark, which one of you want to get in this one? >> it's really simple. she's a model. she can look however she wants. this reverse body shaming. people need to let it go. unless you're a pediatrician, you don't have anything to say about how this woman looks. >> you wouldn't see me putting pictures on instagram with my shirt off. it's her choice to put herself -- >> we wouldn't see you pregnant. >> let's hope not. no the question the thing is she's putting herself out there in the public eye so she's on
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some level -- >> oh she deserves to be shamed? is that where you're going? >> by no means. >> okay. >> at the same time these are very private images she has decided to share with either her twitter followers or instagram followers. >> good for her. i wish more women felt that comfortable with their bodies. >> we have to go. you know, krystal said to me what is my view on this? let me make some news. no comment. jason, krystal, mark thank you for your time this even. >> thanks rev. >> be sure to catch krystal on "the cycle" weekdays at 3:00 p.m. eastern right here on msnbc. when we come back the sights and sounds of a moving and emotional weekend in selma that i won't ever forget. you wouldn't ignore signs of damage in your home. are you sure you're not ignoring them in your body? even if you're treating your crohn's disease or ulcerative colitis an occasional flare may be a sign of damaging inflammation. and if you ignore the signs, the more debilitating your symptoms could become. learn more about the role
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past and the fights of the future. "politicsnation" producer alex was in selma and caught the sights and sounds. >> we went through the brutal tear gas and we went through the horses the dogs. all the sacrifice and all the brutality that went on bloody sunday, just to get a right to vote. >> i saw the massacre of the freedom riders and i said your freedom ride is over. they said, oh, no as soon as we're able to get back on the bus. and i said, they're going to kill you in mississippi. and they said, we know we've written our wills. >> we're not here to celebrate. we're here to commemorate and then continue. this is not just a commemoration. it's a continuation. >> everybody say -- ♪ amen ♪ >> everybody say -- ♪ amen ♪
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>> everybody say -- ♪ amen ♪ >> as one who witnessed the civil rights demonstration in the '60s and compared to now, it's a different fight. segregation is still alive. >> this is a continuing struggle. >> black and white died in this state to give us the right to vote. goodman, cheney, sweener, viola died in alabama and mississippi to give us the right to vote. we come back to alabama to let you know you're not going to take that right back. >> there are a lot of people who are here who were not here 50 years ago. they didn't have a chance to fight, but they have a chance to fight now. >> years ago, we couldn't even come together like this. to see this 50 years later in 20 is a 15, it's amazing. >> selma is the history, selma
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is also the future. selma is still a part of us. >> let's get this. >> we've got the need here today not talking about what we did, but what we must do now. as we retrace the steps of a half century ago, i was too young. i was 10 years old when they first came to selma, though i've been going in my adult years as they re-enact it. but what was special about this weekend, as we walked with john lewis and others that were beaten, as i stood behind the president of the united states and holding the wheelchair of amelia boykin, i thought about the sacrifices made and i thought about what we must do to protect that vote now, and in protecting that vote, then move to reform criminal justice and other things.
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i thought about those older than me that paid a price, those younger than me that must continue to fight. i left selma more inspired and committed that it's not about just what we did, but what we must do. you and me. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. gop to mullahs, screw the deal. let's play "hardball." good evening, i'm chris matthews. in a swiftly deteriorating washington. remember the republican congressman who yelled out "you lie" during a state of the union? how about inviting bibi netanyahu into the u.s. capitol so he could undercut the president? now for the trifecta. 47 republican senators have written the hardliners in tehran asking them to scuttle the iranian nuclear talks. explode them b
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