convenience to use my personal e-mail account which was allowed by the state department because i thought it would be easier. looking back it would have been probably smarter to use to devices. out rage and apologies. two of the students involved in that racist chant say sorry for their actions as students on the campus continue to speak out. >> i hope that he is apologetic and not just apologetic because he got caught. >> it's blatant racism. >> i would say that we have haven't fallen apart but some parts of it have started to crumb l away. we're putting it back together.

good day. we're following breaking news on a search and rescue mission for seven marines and four soldiers missing and feared dead. the troopers were taking part in a routine nighttime training exercise for special forces in florida when the chopper was reported missing around 8:30 local time. debris was spotted around 2:30 this morning. search efforts have been hampered by heavy fog. officials say there are some fatalities. joining me by phone is public affairs officer at the air force base. tell me what you know and what we can report. >> good afternoon. search and rescue crews remain on scene, as you said. we did have a lot of heavy fog this morning. looking out the window now, it does look like it's starting to dissipate. with the improvement in conditions that will help the search and rescue personnel. we have had human remains wash up on shore.

the number has not been released at this time. it's still an active search and rescue mission with multiple agencies on scene, including the coast guard. >> can you tell us anything about the mission. i know this is described as a routine training exercise. what was the training? were they dropping from the chopper and having to swim ashore? is that what this is all about? >> we're just responsible for the air space. i can't speak to the training mission itself. i know it was a routine training mission involving the marine special operations camp from camp lejeune. >> is this national guard troops involved? >> there were two uh-60 aircraft that are both assigned to the louisiana army national guard that were participating in the training exercise. one of those aircraft landed safely and the personnel are accounted for. the other aircraft has four air crew and seven marines on board.

that was the one reported missing at 8:30 last night. >> at this time i know you said it's still search and rescue can you tell us how many fatalityies of what you found so far? >> we do not have any numbers at this time. search and rescue still out there. the fog has lifted some. hopefully that will help their efforts. that are searching a 17 mile by 3 mile area within the santa rosa sound which is east of the bridge on the panhandle. >> thank you so much. thanks for being with us. >> absolutely. thank you. >> defense secretary ashton carter spoke briefly about there accident. >> we know there were four air crew, army from a national guard unit and seven marines assigned to camp lejeune, north

carolina assigned on board that helicopter. i know with me our thoughts and practice prayers with them and their families. >> what do we know about this? did weather contribute to it or was it part of the mission? >> it's clear the weather contributed to it according to military officials. it happened very quickly. there was heavy fog that moved in. they were flying under a very low sealing. by the very nature of special operations training the training itself can be just as dangerous, actually, as an actual mission when you're going up against an enemy in some foreign country somewhere. often times they will, those helicopters to avoid detection by radar or ground fire they hug

the ground or in this case might have been flying just practically skimming the waves as part of their exercise. it leaves very very narrow margin for errors. that's speculation at this point. it's not clear exactly what happened but when you're talk about black hawk helicopters and in this case marine special operations forces those are the kind of maneuvers that they have to train extensively on if they're going to employ the tactics out there in combat. >> these are the search and rescue missions. we know the black hawks are used for all sorts of very dangerous assignments overseas. heavy fog would be part of the training even if it does make it much more challenging and dangerous mission. >> i talked to a couple of pilots who engage in these operations and there's a whole

lot of things that can go wrong as you can well imagine. the fog and low ceiling and even the water can complicate matters. as one person pointed out navy helicopters who fly these kind of missions have additional detection gear that will help them detect the nature of the surface below them. water is ever shifting. not clear if these guard helicopter were equipped with that same kind of doppler radar but those kinds of issue s will come up in the investigation. right now, military officials actually see no hope of finding any of those 11 service members alive. >> that is the terrible news today indeed. thank you. on the hill today, sharp e changes between john kerry and members of the senate foreign relations committee over the

iran nuclear talks. the republican letter disavoiwing any deal by the negotiation. kerry slapped down marco rubio's questions about the iran strategy. >> i believe that much of our strategy with regards to isis is being driven by a dire not to upset iran so they don't walk away from the negotiation table on the deal you're working on. tell me why i'm wrong. >> because the facts contradict that. >> barbara boxer serves on the committee. thank you for being with us. john kerry had very little patience for the suppositions from some of the republican members. >> that's understandable. the fact is we have been taking the fight to isil for a long time now. we know that it is beginning to bear fruit. the big question really now is whether there's an aumf to go

along with that or if they're use their 2001 authority. to bring up this iran issue, it doesn't make any sense to me. i think the republicans are out of control. they're so wanting to play politics on every issue even issues that used to stop at the water's edge it's hurting our country. it's hurting us with our allies. it's hurting us with our enemies enemies. doesn't make any sense. >> i want to you about hillary clinton, a former colleague of yours and someone you have supported over the years. the question about what she did and did not answer. first of all classification. i want to play something for you what she said about not disclosing any classified material, not storing any of it on her private e-mails. let's watch this. >> i did not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail. there's no classified material.

i'm certainly well aware of the classification requirements and did not send classified material. >> in four years as secretary of state using her blackberry, her private blackberry system is it credible there was never anything other than one e-mail of a conversation with an official in the uk never any classified or foreign leader conversation on that blackberry? >> well the state department does not allow you to send any classified material. it will be captured right away. here's the deal. either you're going to listen to the secretary of state, former secretary of state or not. either you're going to listen to her and believe her that in fact, she complied with the spirit and the letter of the law or you're not going to trust anything she says. you're going to either believe colin powell that he didn't do

anything wrong even though he destroyed all the e-mail. you're going to believe jeb bush that he did not wrong with his private server and scott walker or you're not. that's going to be an issue the people will have to decide. she followed the letter of the law and the spirit of the law. that's what i believe. all of this i think is politics. i think it's sad. most people want to hear what hillary clinton has to say about the issues. i thought what she said was spot on about the letter from the 27 start senators that was very disruptive. >> let me bring you back to the clinton matter. i know you say it's matter of trust. >> it is with me too. you could ask me did i send classify information. >> she was secretary of state. >> it doesn't matter. i'm the united states senator the most senior member on foreign relations. i go do classified briefings all

the time. i never sent an e-mail regarding classified information. who would do that? nobody would do that. i don't think anyone does that. we understand that. we understand it. either you believe or or you don't. that's the bottom line. >> i don't know if you know the answer to this. you served with her in the senate. she said she used her private e-mail system as a matter of convenience. that's what she did when she went into the state department. did she ever use senate dotgov? >> frankly, none of us really use it. we have our own private e-mails. there's no rule here. most of us use our own private e-mails. i wouldn't know. i assume she did the same thing as most of us. there's no rule here. what she did when she got to her job is she followed the law. she chose to do it this way. as she said in a very open way

considering all the flap i should have done it a different way but it was completely allowable. colin powell didn't turn over one e-mail showing one republican who is saying what she didhe did was terrible. they operated under the same rules. >> same of the rules were different. there was a rule that went into effect in 2009. >> we know that and she followed that rule which was to make sure all the official e-mail was turned over. she's the first one that ever did that. the first one. >> let me ask you about something rand paul said on the today show. >> she said there wasn't classify information. i'm in the sure that can be trusted since we can't trust her to do the right thing the first time. the thing about classified information, we're not talking about transmitting a document as classified but many of her conversations would be classified. let's say i wanted to know tomorrow about her conversations

by e-mail with the president. i would think many of those would be classified and she said she did these conversations on a private server. >> he said he doesn't trust hillary clinton. someone he may be running against for the residency. this is a shock. a lot of people don't trust rand paul. what does it prove? the bottom line is rand paul's going to say what he did with his e-mails. either you trust him or not. hillary clinton will say what she did with hers. let's move on. i have to say, i used to be a rt ro reporter many years ago. reporters love confrontation, we could talk about this forever. no law was broken. she turned these over. she admitted she should have had two separate ways of writing her

personal and her work e-mails. let's get on with it. if you don't believe her don't vote for her. that's what i think and if you believe her then vote for her. >> that brings me to the final question. should she accelerate the roll out of this campaign because part of the problem many inside clinton people is saying she didn't have a campaign structure. it's time already, announce the campaign. get structured. get people to respond rather than being neither here nor there. >> let me say something that you may or may not agree with. it doesn't matter whether she's in a campaign mode. she's out of her campaign mode. she's on the beach, she's on the hill. people will go after hillary clinton for a number of reasons, usually quite partisan. it's the way it is. the republicans fear her. they fear her candidacy. they're trying to ruin it and it

doesn't matter. i'm ready for hillary. i am. i am. >> okay. barbara boxer, thank you very much. >> okay, sure. >> do you think the hillary clinton e-mail story will go way? think again. this e-mail story is going to be with us for several more months. the state department will take that long to go through the e-mails. that starts to seep into the timeline of the 2016 campaign. more coming up with rachel mad maddow here. chilling words from the accused boston bomber. what he had to say.

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they were personal and private about matters i believed were within the scope of my personal privacy and that particularly of other people. they had nothing to do with work. i didn't see any reason to keep them. with respect to any sort of future issues look i trust the american people to make their decisions about political and public matters. >> hillary clinton deleting thousands of e-mails. her critics arguing she

shouldn't have been the one to make that call. that is federal policy. congressman thank you very much. federal employees are told it's up to them to decide whether they can delete or not delete whether something is personal or work related. the question is whether she should have had a private e-mail system in the first place, is it not? >> thanks for having me on the show. the question for the committee that i'm working on the benghazi committee is clear. we want to make sure we get access to every e-mail that has facts relevant to our investigation. whatever policy may have been clearly secretary of state clinton told her employees they had to have government account and use it. whatever that policy may have been, our task now is to make sure we get access to the documents that are relevant to our investigation and complete the mission so we can satisfy the families of the four dead americans and the american people. >> didn't the state department turn those documents over to you already?

>> goodness. there's still huge gaps in the materials we have received today. we seen a couple of hundred e-mails so far. she said yesterday there's thousands. the state department says the total will take months to review. we still have a lot of questions that need to be answered both about this document production which we were told is complete only to find out it is not. lots of questions remain about how to do this. we're going to ask the secretary to come to our committee and explain all the process of the e-mails that were in her non-official account. >> as far as we were told the benghazi committee and the state department knew as of last fall that these e-mails existed and e-mails were turned over to the committee. you're saying there's more e-mails you have not yet seen that you know exist? >> yes. i can't tell you exactly what

exists. i can tell you the committee did become aware at the end of the last summer there was a private account. we asking the state department for materials. she didn't turn over her e-mails until october of last year upon a request. the request that would not have happened but for our committee. secretary clinton sat on these e-mails. in some cases for five years and some for a couple and didn't do the required task of making sure it was in the hands so any americans that were seek sooeking questions have basic says. >> why didn't the committee complain about the private e-mail system when you first learned about it? >> we've been working on multiple months. >> i mean publicly. >> we have tried to conduct this as a professional invesnvestigation. we kept the details private. we think that's only fair not

only to secretary clinton but all the people we're seeking information. to release partial information or tidbits. our task is to find facts and do them in a professional manner. once complete we'll release the information so the american people can form their own judgment. >> do you accept her assertion she never used her private e-mail system for anything that's classified? >> it's not my place to make that decision whether to accept that or not. it is unacceptable for this committee not to have access to all of the documents that are relevant. we were told we had them once before and we did not. we are deeply skeptical that we have a complete set of all the records that were relevant. she's said yesterday that she didn't do any classified work there. that leaves a big open space of documents that may not have been formally classified but which i can assure you the chinese and the iranians and terrorists

around the world would love to have access to. we need to know things about what took place that night. even if the e-mail wasn't about official business but imagine that the secretary was e-mailing about private matters during the evening of september 11 2012. that's relevant information for our committee's inquiry. we're going to do everything we can to make sure and get the answers for the american people. >> you're saying the night of benghazi, it would be relevant if she did anything on her private blackberry any personal e-mail that she put out during those hours when benghazi was taking place would be relevant? >> the con tents may not be. i have no interest in learning about her yoga routines or chelsea's wedding. it's none of committee's business nor mine. the activities and whom she was

communicating and how busy she was and focused is relevant to whether response that night was sufficient. that's part of our inquiry. we're pursuing it vigorously. >> thank you very much. this is not going away. out rage at the university of oklahoma following that racist chant caught on video. the two fraternity members expelled have been identified. we're hearing their apologies for the first time. gabe filed this report on the campus in norman, oklahoma. >> reporter: on the ou campus new outrage. >> i hope he is apologetic and not just apologetic because he got caught. >> reporter: this morning the apologies for this video are singhing ing sinking in. a freshman member writing i'm

deeply sorry for what i did saturday night. it was wrong and reckless. it was fueled by alcohol consumed at the house before the bus trip. that's not an excuse. rice graduated from this prep school in dallas last year. >> i was appalled. ♪ you can hang them from a tree but hooile'll anyone sign with me ♪ >> reporter: he said the song was taught to them. it's likely they could have learned it from fellow chapter members but the national fraternity does not teach a racist hateful chant. the parents of a second student apologized. he made a horrible mistake and will live with the consequences forever. we know that depth of our son's character. he's a good boy. what we saw in the videos is disgusting. >> gabe reporting from the university of oklahoma campus. the deadline for the fraternity members was midnight last night.

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that this helicopter had been down roughly almost 12 hours ago. to give you a sense of how foggy it's been, i want to show you behind me rkts this, this is one of the staging areas. it's along a five mile stretch. where we are right now that area right there was not visible just an hour and a half ago. the cloud base was just about 200 feet. conditions that would make it very hard for aircraft. staff here tell us they go and practice and train in these situations rain or shine regardless of what the visibility is. they say that allows them to be better trained. it did play a part in that situation, that crash that occurred with one of those ch-60

black hawk. 11 service members are missing. it's made the zej and rescue effort very difficult. it's the reason the press conference has been rescheduled multiple times. you've had multiple agencies hampered by the fog. this is a community where there's a lot of military members. people here still holding out hope that there may still be survivors out in the water just hundreds of yards away from us where we stand now. terrible news down there in florida. thank you. up next hillary clinton meets the press. questions asked. were they answered? some perspective with rachel maddow coming up next. something entirely new is being built into bounty. dawn. new bounty with dawn. just rinse and wring so you can blast right through tough messes and pick up more.

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my sense of privacy. i feel like i've been a fairly private person leading a public life led me to understand the public's interest as well as right to know things about my husband and me. i've always believed in a zone of privacy and i told a friend the other day that i feel after resisting for a long time i've been rezoned. >> she was first lady at the time. hillary clinton answered questions about a arkansas land deal and money she made on cattle futures when her husband was governor. this is when she was first lady. >> you were and who your husband was. >> no i really don't believe

that. i don't think there's any evidence of that. >> more than 20 years later, her public and personal moves is raising questions. what is the zone of the privacy for such a public official? rachel, thank you very much for joining us. this is a decade's long issue for her and for other public officials. she's really struggled with it. i've always felt it's because of the bill clinton presidential primary campaign and all the really tough invasive issues that came up the draft during the new hampshire primary. it was her introduction to national politics. >> in that 1994 press conference, i'm so glad to see those clips. a because the history is amazing to see and you ask those

questions. that press conference when we talked about last night in the context of this show i read the transcript of that press conference and it's endless. it goes on and on and on because she sat there and took questions endlessly from the press core for more than an hour. exhaustively cattle futures, all these things that she was ask about. you would think that would have cleared the decks in some ways but it didn't at all. it created more avenues into what led to the monica lewinsky scandal and the president's impeachment. we have seen her educated in public as to what dealing with the press leads to and it's out of your hands and the more you feed them, the more they're fed. i think she does have a different relationship than the press than everybody else in american politics because of all of it. >> that's why she resists until she can no longer resist.

from her experience when she finally let it all out, she was told that would be the end and it did end six months later with the special prosecutor ken star. this is what she said yesterday by her admission and this was startling admission deleted what she calls personal e-mails. >> i chose not to keep my private personal e-mails. e-mails about planning chelsea's wedding or my mother's funeral arrangements condolence notes to friends as well as yoga routine, family vacations, the other things you find in inboxes. the server contains personal communications from my husband and me and i believe i have met all of my responsibilities and the server will remain private. >> today the associated press filed suit against the state department saying they have been trying for years and filed suit

to get access to the e-mails. >> it's interesting because as you noted earlier this lour,hour, it's true it's the responsibility of each federal employee who does official business, it's the responsibility to hand that e-mail over to the relevant department so it can be archived. she says she did that. there isn't an independent system by which those things get verified. that's true. there's all these people questioning whether or not she made the right decision as to what was personal or work related. i'm not sure that can be litigated. you have the republican congressman mike pompeo saying he has no interest in personal e-mails. the republican chair committee says he wants the whole server. he want to go through all her personal e-mails and decide to

his satisfaction what counts and personal and what doesn't. it's never going to happen. the state department does have a responsibility to make sure public records sponltsresponsibilities are met. that is a governmental matter that has to be addressed separate and above as what counts as yoga and diplomacy in her own view of her own e-mails. >> other things come up because she said these were personal communications with her husband and then simultaneously the wall street journal posted a story saying he never sends e-mails. only did twice when he was president. once to john glen and some military service members. she's talking about communications to his office or his staff. that has to be cleared up. she also said that she only

wanted to use one device for convenience but last month she said she had an iphone. she has a blackberry. she has an ipad and a mini. i checked this morning and confirmed she didn't get the iphone until only a few months ago so long after she left office. there was one device. every time she answers a question there -- >> there are more questions to answer. i keep two as werecently as 2009. it was not possible to have a work e-mail and my private e-mail on the same device. i made the decision to carry two devices because msnbc said i needed a work e-mail. the political truth of it there is no analog in mortal life to hillary clinton as a political being. nobody has lived the life she

has. nobody has been treated the way she has. what this all says to many whether or not people care about hillary clinton's number of personal devices, i think the bottom line there's a real question as to whether or not she gets vetted effectively and fairly as a presidential candidate, particularly one that won't have challenge in primary given the amount of static about everything she does. the media noise is so loud. it's very hard to have effective reporting that people might care about what she would be like as a national leader. seeing a will the of stupidity in the coverage, i worry about whether we'll be well served by beltway press corp. that doesn't know how to talk about bill or hillary clinton without treading into real nonsense. >> thank you so much. you can watch rachel every night right here on nbc at 9:00 eastern.

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joining me now senator chris chris. let's talk about secretary kerry who was just appalled he told the committee by that letter on iran, the letter to iran from the 47 republican senators. >> yes, in response to questions from senators about that letter he said that in his long service here in the senate and in his role as secretary of state, he's rarely seen anything so destructive, so directly undermining of our important bipartisan commitment to challenging iran's long illicit nuclear weapons program. these are too important for us to play politics with it. as we emphasize repeatedly we are stronger when we stand

together. the point of the hearing was to discuss the president's request for an authorization of the ongoing campaign against isis. we are trying to find a way to come together on the senate foreign relations committee and pass a bipartisan authorization of that conflict. secretary kerry also in response to this letter from 47 republican senators said it was not constructive and irresponsible and he had seen nothing so irresponsible in his very long service here in the senate. >> what's going to happen now regarding negotiations in terms of the corker-mendez to have a congressional review but not have congress stop the negotiations or undercut them? >> i think it's important for for congress to be consulted and have a role of approving the role back after any congressional authored sanctions. i think this letter by 47 republican senators has really led to a moment of pause for

those of us democrats who support the role but who are very disturbed by repeated efforts to shoot down the negotiations before they can reach a reasonable conclusion before we even know if there is a deal. >> senator, do you think there's some justifiable criticism that the administration is too eager for a deal to try to have something out of all of this? >> secretary kerry spoke to that again today. i asked him a question about whether that would be an ongoing obligation for inspections after the term of the deal so those of us who don't trust iran and concerned they might go right back to trying to develop a nuclear weapon. he restated that no deal is better than a bad deal and this administration is clear eyed about the very real risks of iran and any deal they reach will be grounded in a distrust

and will ensure thorough inspection measures. i can only hope and expect that the negotiators including secretary kerry, himself have heard that message repeatedly from a broad bipartisan group of senators and house members who expressed real concerns. i know they're well informed. i'm optimistic that secretary kerry is doing his job on behalf of the united states to make sure any deal reached is enforceable and can be backed up by inspections and would be supported by the coalition that's negotiating. >> thank you very much. we have to leave it there. that does it for us. follow us online on facebook and twitter. my colleague thomas roberts joins with what's coming up on msnbc live. thanks so much. we're going to watsit for that breaking news. a conference from the officials there at the air force base. the senate debating the president's proposal for new war

powers. we'll get into that. this new lawsuit against the state department to force the release of hillary clinton's e-mails. that's all coming up next. stick around.

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