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ice chief jon belmar said they have leads on the suspects but would not give more specific details. >> when this happened when they heard the shots and when they heard the bullets zinging past that they saw muzzle flashes, but these muzzle flashes were probably about 125 yards away. many officers drew their weapons but no officers fired. this is the number one priority right now of the st. louis county police department to identify these individuals. that individual or individuals who shot our police officers. >> now, one of the officers was shot in the shoulder the other in the face. chief belmar described their injuries as non-life-threatening and cell phone video captured the moment at least four shots rang out. [ gunshots ] >> so the crowd of about 50 demonstrators and about 30 police officers took cover.
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demonstrators were rallying after the resignation after police chief thomas jackson, the sixth departure from the ferguson police department following the justice department's scathing report. nbc's ron allen joins me now from ferguson. first, ron, let's get an update on the conditions of those two officers. what do we know? >> they are expected to survive and these wounds are very serious. one -- in one case the bullet went through the officer's shoulder and exited through his back and the other case is a bullet is still lodged in the cheek of the officer. again, both are expected to survive, but they are very serious wounds. they are in the hospital at this point, and it's -- it's a very very serious thing that has happened here. it's just -- you can't say enough about that. given how many demonstrations there have been out here over how many weeks and months. there had never been an officer shot. never been a protester shot and things seem to be winding down here generally and specifically last night but all of a sudden out of nowhere this incident
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happens, four or five shots fired from the crowd at the officers and things are -- may never be the same here. it's -- it's just shocking what has happened. the police response has been as you heard chief belmar say, it's their responsibility to find the gunman or gunmen that are responsible for this. it happened right in front of the police headquarters scene of demonstrations day in and day out, night in and night out for so long and now that's completely sealed off. the police have pushed back a perimeter. it's closed off in that direction for about a quarter mile and in that direction for several blocks as well and the whole area has been searched. we saw some officers with metal detectors looking for shell casings, trying to find the person responsible for this and essentially trying to stop this episode before it comes something more -- more -- even more serious. unclear how the protesters will react. these businesses around here are now closed and -- and a huge
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setback for this community that's trying to move forward and just unclear what the day will bring. tamron. >> just so we have a clear picture, ron, at least from the eyewitnesses that you've spoken with and since you're there at the scene, we see the headquarters behind you. can you get the camera to move a bit to show you at least where the protesters were and where it's believed those shots came from the direction? >> reporter: well it all happens right here behind me every night. >> right. >> reporter: there are -- we're in the parking lot across the street from the police station. the police were lined up behind where you see the police car is. they let the protesters come across the street. the protesters will come up the driveway and taunt the police back and forth. there would be some pushing and shoving in the streets. some nights we've seen this time and time again, but if you go further up that street you'll see past that line police cars up that street is a residential neighborhood behind this business, and that's apparently where the shots came from. the chief estimates the 100 yards or so. it may have been even closer
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bases on how close the protesters could have been how closed gunman could have been behind the protesters or embedded. this whole area is actually filled with people and protesters on the busiest nights, and this was a very busy night at some point but by the time this all happened it was after midnight and things were winding down. again, out of nowhere, again, just a game changer for what's been going on around here. >> thank you very much. let me bring in bradley raiford, a freelance photographer who was actually on the scene when those shots were fired. bradley, thank you for joining us. as i understand. >> thank you. >> from social media you said the bullet went right past your head. you were right in front of the officers officers. describe to me what happened last night. >> last night around 12:00 the protesters were pretty much were dying down and everyone was going home and out of nowhere you hear what sounded like a firecracker, and we all look up to the top of the hill and we saw two or three more muzzle fires from a gun -- from a gun,
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and we also saw and heard the actual gunshots and, of course we all take cover, and once we take cover behind the brick wall right behind me we saw the officer who was shot in the face, the webster grove officer shot in the face laying on the ground and the other officers tending to him. >> we know that many of the protesters there as it was described by you earlier, one of the celebratory tone because of the resignation of the police chief that had just been announced, right? >> it was. it was definitely a celebratory tone last night. actually the police officer had brought champagne to share with other protesters because of chief jackson resigning, demands that were made back in august. they wanted ferguson to know that they just didn't want the police chief to resign. they also want the mayor to resign and want other people to resign. that point they tried to make last night.
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unfortunately, it was interrupted by the gunshots. >> thank you very much for joining us for your firsthand account. let me bring in the st. louis alderman antonio french and adolphus prewitt. thanks for joining me. you've been arrested and protested and been on front lines with the protesters since the start here. i want to play something that the st. louis county police chief said jon belmar last night, regarding climate and some of the fears that the police have had for some time. now let's play that. >> these police officers were stand ing standing there and they were shot just because they were police officers. >> to be clear, this was not the people who were exercising their first amendment rights who did the shooting? >> i don't know who did the shooting to be honest with you right now, but somehow they were embedded in that group of folks. >> he went on to say i think that we've been very fortunate that we haven't had a similar incident, but i've said we could
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not sustain this forever without problems. so he feels that things even though that rally was calming down last night to an end and people were going home even though it was peaceful that the climate in and around these officers had been dangerous. what do you say to that? >> you know i think we've seen several times over the course of the last few months that there have been some individuals that have tried to use the protests as cover toes calculate the situation and to commit violence. we saw that from some individuals in august again in november and we saw it again last night. i don't think the violence that we saw last night is any way representative of the vast majority of people who were out there to peacefully protest, and, in fact i think the -- at the press conference an hour ago, the chief clarified that the shots actually came from behind the protesters as many as 130 yards away so our hearts go out to the victims and the families of those officers who were shot last night and also the -- the protesters who were
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also in harm's way last night as well. >> adolphus the climate there, as my colleague ron allen on the scene said for many. this was a game-changer. there's a great worry now, of course, for the citizens of ferguson as well as the police here. what do you say to the community now this morning after the shooting? >> i think we all need to remain calm not turn this situation into something that doesn't really need to happen. we need to allow for protesters to peacefully protest and at the same time i think we all have to be a little bit more vigilant and make sure that we don't allow folks who want to escalate things or do the wrong thing to mess up with what's trying to happen. i think the wholesale change that everybody is asking for is unfolding right before our eyes and we need to give an opportunity for it to run its course. >> to that point, alderman you do have of course this
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important news regarding these officers and their lives, their injuries very very serious, but we know those protesters were out front as reported and in a sense celebrating, some of them the fact that there had been success in getting the police chief to resign which was their goal and you have i believe now six resignations or firings of individuals linked to this department of justice investigation of the police department. what is your fear or concern right "now" that you do have this headline today of these two officers shot and a lesser conversation and rightfully so today anyway about the overall problems within that police department? >> well, you know the protesters and many folks were celebrating yesterday that a step forward had been made. many of us were saying it would be impossible for the community to move forward as long as chief and the city manager were in those positions, so that was a step forward, the first of a long road ahead.
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i hope that we don't derail the mission that we have of healing our community, of bringing about the kind of change to the systems in place or that the doj report really outlined but today our hearts are with those officers and their families and i hope that the -- if there are protests tonight that, you know we're very respectful that blood has been shed and you know we want our communities to come together. >> speaking of coming together mr. prewitt, is there anything that the naacp has planned, anything with community leaders, to the point of the alderman so that people can peacefully as ball with our thoughts and prayers with these officers but also still discussing the very real issues brought about by that department of justice report. >> well, you know members of our youth branch out of atlanta came in town there early this week to spend their spring break. they are registered voters and they are wrapping it up today. they touched bases with
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thousands of people and registered 1,000 new voters. i think the process is one of education and rough of participation in the electoral process and get the leaders in there that we need and i think that everybody needs to understand that change is not instant. it takes time and the doj has given us the foundation to base that change on. >> thank you both. greatly appreciate it and, again, to the two officers one is a 32-year-old officer who has been on force for seven years and of the other a 41-year-old officer from st. louis county, a 14-year veteran and coming up new details on another embarrassment for two secret service agents after two crashed into a barricade at white house allegedly after a night of drinking. one of those agents is second in command on the president's detail. we are live at the white house, and developing now, officials in florida are about to give an update on that tragic military chopper crash that's believed to have killed all 11 service members on board.
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we're back with developing news as we await a news conference from florida regarding the military helicopter that crashed with seven marines and four national guardsmen on board. the search efforts are expected to resume, weather permitting. the dense fog advisory is in effect until 2:00 p.m. eastern time. all the service members aboard are presumed dead. the black hawk went down in
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santa rosa sound during a training exercise at eglin air force base sunday night. a spokesperson at the base says the wreckage and human remains have been found. the seven marines are from camp lejeune in north carolina and the four national guardsmen are from a unit in hammond, louisiana. last night hundreds of people attended a candlelight vigil to honor the service members and their families. the military has not said what caused the crash. and the obama administration is investigating new claims this morning about yet another security lapse within the secret service. two high-level agents have been reassigned after allegations that they may have been drunk when they drove a government-issued car through a security gate and hit barricades outside the white house last week. now one of the agents involved is a senior member of the president's detail and joining us now senior white house correspondent chris jansing. what's the latest on this investigation here? >> reporter: as you know it's hard to imagine a time when the agency has been under so much
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scrutiny. that's what has so many people scratching their head. here you have two senior people two well-respected people within the secret service, including one who the president trusted with his life who is a target of the probe. this morning the white house is confirming the investigation into two high-level secret service agents, one an elite member on the president's close detail. according to the "washington post," the men drove a government car into white house security barricades after drink at a late-night party last week. >> we're talking about a very very senior person who is regularly within arm's length of the president and this person if it true it doesn't get any worse than that. >> reporter: two sources familiar with the investigation confirmed to nbc the men are seen zor supervisor george ogilvy and the second in command on the president's detail mark connolly who has been by the president's side from ireland to tucson to coney island. according "the post," officers on duty wanted to arrest the agents and conduct sobriety
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tests but officers were order by a superviseor to let the agents go home. even though witnesses say the car was being driven ear ratically, lights flashing tearing through security tape before hitting the barricades and disrupting the ongoing investigation of a suspicious package. the investigation will be a significant test for the agency's now director joseph clans who came out of retirement to clean up the service after a series of high-profile missteps rocked the agency 2012 in cartagena, colombia a prostitution scandal led to some agents being fired, march 2014 two agents were booted from a presidential trip to the netherlands after one of them was found passed out in a hotel hallway after drinking and last fall the agency made headlines again after a man with a wife jumped the fence and got into the white house. these new allegations will put clancy and the agency back on the hot seat. >> the deep-seeded concern is that the shine of the secret
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service has been rubbed off. we cannot keep having these discussions. >> reporter: these agents are so high up in the secret service that they are not doing an internal investigation. they have handed it over to the inspector general at the department of homeland security and while this investigation is ongoing, they both have been reassigned to non-supervisory non-operational jobs. tamron. >> all right, chris, thank you very much. we continue to follow the breaking news out of st. louis. the st. louis county police chief just gave an update on the search for the people responsible for shooting two police officers in ferguson. we'll get you caught up right after a quick break on the latest information coming in. plus, national leaders from an oklahoma university fraternity are pushing back against claims that the fraternity has long history of racism. now comments now from that fraternity and senator john mccain admits republicans should have given more thought when signing a letter against a
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diversity. while its investigation is still ongoing the national fraternity now says that it cannot verify any reports of this racist chant beyond this campus. all week it's called this video appalling, this morning sigma alpha epsilon says the problem seems to be limited to one chapter. >> sigma alpha epsilon has come under attack and a lot of chapters and members are vilified, that's unfair. we hear the critics and we hear the conversations that are taking place. we know that we can make this better and prevent this from happening. >> reporter: calling it a horrible cancer the fraternity says racist behavior entered its university of oklahoma chapter three to four years ago. that's about the time ou junior keith logan started college. he was among the dozens of people who attended a previously scheduled town hall meeting wednesday night to discuss racism on campus. >> it's very sickening at the same time. it's not surprising. >> reporter: parker rice one of the sae members in the video who has apologized, is keeping quiet after saying his family has been
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threat ened threatened outside his dallas home a small group of protesters gathered. >> we planning on filing a complaint with the department of justice so that way they can look into every chapter across the nation of sae. >> reporter: but the fraternity says so far it has been unable to verify any rumors of members using the chant beyond ou. e.j. vesaley is a proud african member of the sae at the university of cincinnati. >> i would not be part of a fraternity that is racist. >> reporter: at ou two students have been expelled and the university says more are possible, but now some experts are questioning whether that's even legal. >> students at public universities have free speech rights. now, if they had threatened a specific person that would be different, but merely uttering even offensive racist speech is protected by the first amendment. >> reporter: university officials certainly feel those
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we have an obligation to make sure that folks that want to express their first amendment rights have the ability to do that, but when you look at the tenor of at least some of the people that are involved in the protests or civil unrest it -- it at times can be very troubling, and it's difficult for the officers to discern within a crowd of folks that are perhaps there for the right reason exactly who is doing what. >> and that was st. louis county police chief jon belmar discussing in the last hour the shootings of two police officers at a rally as it was dwindling down outside the ferguson police department overnight. now, those two officers remain we're told in, serious condition. one was shot in the face the other in the shoulder. witnesses describe hearing at least four shots ring out in the direction of the officers.
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so far there have been no arrests, but police indicate that they do have leads on suspects but did not give more details than that at that press conference. joining me now here on set is "usa today" reporter who has been talking -- thanks for joining me, first of all. you've been talking with some of the protesters. are they worried now that because of these shootings people will link this to individuals who were peacefully protesting outside headquarters? >> that is exactly what people are terrified of. i talked to a protester today who just had those gunshots go right past her head and says toys incredibly dangerous to link this shooting to protesters. she said they could have been shooting us and had it been a bad shot so people they are very scared that this shooter is then going to somehow change the momentum change the narrative of that protest, and she says we've opinion here for over 200 days peacefully so they are really, really scared about that. >> that's something that i think people don't realize. these have been ongoing protests, 200 days even though it's not been in the headlines.
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certainly resurfaced with the department of justice report but 200 days people have been out there. >> 200 days people have been out there. not in the news because a lot has been peaceful. people were gathering there almost every night, gathering there last night really as a celebration because they were happy that the ferguson police chief had resigned so she was telling me and the police were saying while a couple people got arrested for standing in the street, this was a peaceful protest, just like they had been doing for hundreds of days. the violence that we see, the videos that we see all over the news, those are only a couple days in ferguson. i was there and most time it was peaceful and especially last night until these people came and did the shooting it was a peaceful night. >> i should point out we're just getting information in that both officers have now been released from the hospital. we just got this information in that the officers one is a 32-year-old officer who is a seven-year veteran. he was shot in the face. the 41-year-old officer, a 14-year veteran shot in the shoulder. according to information we've
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just received both of those officers have now been released from the hospital. . i to want to read what's just come in, a statement from attorney general eric holder that reads in part this heinous assault on two brave law enforcement officers was inexcuse able and repugnant. i condemn violence against any public safety official in the strongest terms and the department of justice will never accept any violence directed against those who serve our communities against this violence action. what's been the climate since the department of justice report? it was a stunning report clearly painting a picture of minorities and people with disabilities being targeted by the ferguson police department. with that said the protesters you spoke with did they believe that there was a turning point, an acknowledgement of the report and maybe things would get better? >> they did think that this was a turning point and it's not just one person. you're talking about two police officers resigned a clerk fired, the city manager, the police chief, the municipal
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county judge, so these are like a lot of big positions that were gone, and when i talked to the protesters, they thought okay we're turning a corner but they were very very cautious and very, very smart in some ways saying this is a personnel change. the captain was talking about systemic issues not individual people. there were obviously individual names there, but they were very cautious to say that this is still ferguson missouri. when the cameras are gone and the reporters are not there that we might have to go back to the reality that we were facing before michael brown was killed. >> the protesters you spoke with this morning, do they plan to continue demonstrating? >> yeah. i think they do plan to continue demonstrating main lip because they say that the justice that they are really seeking and justice that they think will come out of the doj report needs pressure. the idea for them is they need to continue to protest to remind people that while there might have been some violence and even these shootings that there's people living under what they consider racially biased policing and that can't be lost in the narrative. >> will they be out there today? >> i think they will be out there today. i think people will be out there
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today and it's also kind of like what happened with the nypd police officers. they were out there that day, too, following those days because they thought this is not going to be something where we'll feel bad about our first amendment rights because someone else not associated with us chose to become violent. >> thanks so much for your great reporting. really appreciate you joining us. more fallout today from that controversial letter written to iran by 47 republican senators and the author of the letter now firing back at former secretary of state hillary clinton. on twitter clinton criticized the move for a second day in a row tweeting quote, the gop letter to iranian clerics undermines american leadership. no one considering running for commander in chief should be signing on and republican senator tom cotton quickly shot back with his own tweet saying quote, no hillary clinton. letter to iran helps protect usa from bad deal. now the letter is also denounced by democrats in the senate who disagree with the white house on the nuclear negotiations. pennsylvania senator bob casey,
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co-sponsor of a bill to impose new sanctions on iran says of the letter quote, this is a misguided and reckless attempt to circumvent a sitting u.s. president by going directly to the leader of the iranian regime, a longtime adversary of the united states. and senator casey joins us now. thank you so much for your time. >> thanks tamron. >> first, let's just talk about i think that the remarkable nature of this letter is still setting in or settling in with so many people and now you have john mccain saying to politico that maybe republicans should have had second thoughts about this letter. he went on to say it was kind of a very rapid process. everybody was looking forward to getting out of town because of the snow storm. i think we probably should have had more discussion about it given the blowback that there is. your response to that? >> well tamron i think certainly there should have been more discussion and deliberation and then there should have been rejection of the idea. it was a bad idea. it's bad foreign policy and it
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harms our ability not just on this issue but it harms our ability as a nation to have a consensus on a whole range of foreign policy issues so what we have to do now is i think get back to bipartisan policy instead of partisan games that some are playing or that the -- or the kind of one-party only moves on foreign policy. the best policy on iran is one that is bipartisan, and we've got a very serious challenge ahead of us. if there is a deal every member of congress is going to have to sit down and spend not just hours but days and weeks analyzing any agreement that emerges. >> you mentioned bipartisan support here. your legislation you co-sponsored. you have nine other democrats who co-sponsored and agreed to vote on legislation under negotiations that would increase -- impose new sanctions against iran. what kind of support are you
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seeing -- are you seeing more support from members within your own party on that action? >> you know we've seen -- that's bipartisan, as you noted, and we have seen and i still believe, that sanctions, if this doesn't go well or if we think it's appropriate to impose sanctions, sanctions are the tool or the vehicle that got us to the table, so we have to consider that if there's no agreement and to do it in a way that's appropriate for the circumstances, but first and foremost we have to -- i think we have to reserve judgment on any -- any potential deal or agreement until we actually see it. >> right. >> that's something that folks in washington should do. >> but that's exactly the opposite of what's being done though. >> yeah. i don't know how you can reject something that you have not reviewed yet and i would argue that most members of congress today don't know enough about what -- about what even a potential deal looks like and secondly haven't done the kind
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of technical review that you need to do that will undergird your decision. >> so when a colleague in the senate the republican says that the letter is not partisan and that he reached out to democrats to sign it when you hear him say that even though as you've noted, the deal the negotiations still very unclear at this point, again, what is your response to that, and does that give you any hope that there's something bipartisan that can be worked out behind the scenes here? >> i still have hope that we can have bipartisan agreements on the iranian new jersey question as well as other foreign policy issues. this letter makes that significantly harder to do. >> senator casey, thank you so much for your time. greatly appreciate it. >> thank you. >> and i want to take you now to florida where we're following the breaking news. right now officials are giving an update on that horrible military chopper crash that's believed to have taken the lives of 11 service members. let's listen in. >> i can report that we have located the wreckage of the
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uh-60 black hawk that was reported missing tuesday evening. at this point we are not hopeful for survivors, and we're transitioning our search and rescue operation to a recovery and accident safety investigation that will be led from -- by a team from the army combat readiness center a louisiana air or army national guard and the u.s. marine corps marine special operations command. that transition is ongoing at this time. they are getting up to speed. team eglin and team hurlburt stand ready to support as they continue the recovery operations and attempt to determine cause. at this point our thoughts and prayers go out to the louisiana air national guard, u.s. marine corps, marine special operations command, the unit's family and
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friends of all involved in this tragic event. at this time i cannot release any names or any other information about the personnel involved. at this point if you have any questions on those, those will have to be answered by louisiana air national guard, the marine corps, our marine special operations command. i would like to close up before i hand it over here to just say that this was a fabulous team effort. as you can see, they have been operating in some very very difficult conditions. the team effort between team eglin, team hurlburt the coast guard numerous federal and state and local agencies has been outstanding. i also want to say a big thank you to all of the communities in northwest florida for their tremendous outpouring of support. that has been truly humbling. at this point i would like to introduce to you my chief of
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fire and rescue services mark juliano. he has been the on-seen incident commander throughout the last day and a half of search-and-rescue operations and he'll tell you a little bit more about what the team has been doing. chief? >> good morning. again, my name is chief mark giuliano, eyre i'm the fire chief at eglin air force base and have been the incident commander for at least the first 24 hours of this incident, and i'm going to kind of describe what happens and where we are at this point, okay? so the night before last at approximately 10:00 p.m. we were notified, eglin fire department was notified of a potential downed aircraft in the santa rosa island sound. we responded assets immediately. in fact, we have a fire station on the island so those assets were on seen immediately. i arrived on scene at approximately 11:30 p.m. and was put in contact with the air crew
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that was still on site. i was told at that point we had an aircraft down with 11 souls on board, and they were asking for our assistance. so at that point we initiated search and rescue operations requesting boats from local fire departments and iso fire department coast guard, mid-bay, fish and wildlife assets were asked. now understand it's about 11:30 going on midnight. the conditions out there were very very very dense fog. boats that did get on scene could not see. they were probably traveling about less than five miles an hour an hour out there afraid to run into each other and any hazard that might be out there. what they were doing at that point was looking for any survivors that may be in the water, okay? those operations continued through the night. i had requested additional assets to -- to come in from the coast guard, boats with sonar, side-scan sonar. we had very limited assets at that point. until those assets arrived on
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scene late yesterday morning, we were pretty much searching in the blind just basically out on the surface. we were also responding to reports of debris working up on the north side of the bay, and we had assets on that side here and responding to any responses or calls of debris or human remains that were washing up on the site. we were gathering those and bringing them pack to my location where we had a staging area operation set up to handle that kind of stuff. at approximately 9:00 a.m. yesterday, late morning, i will say late morning, we did have a hit from sonar. what we thought was the aircraft in the middle of the bay. we immediately sent divers out there to get eyes on the target to confirm that it was the helicopter. we sent a diver down basically with a snorkel, and he could see from the depth of about 25 feet he could see that that was the helicopter. at that point we got back to my command post and the game plan was to do a side scan sonar
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mapping of the bottom of the bay so we could real see what was going on down there and develop our dive plan from that. that took about an hour to do. once we got the scan we looked at it and we confirmed, yeah, here's the helicopter. it's broken up into several pieces. we determined what we were going to do and what teams were assembled and who was going to do what. at approximately -- let me get my time straight. at about 2:00 in the afternoon. the -- the search and recovery or search and rescue was still ongoing. that's when we put divers into the water to start retrievingled air crew. operations continued until about 1800 last night. as you saw yesterday, the fog rolled in yesterday afternoon hampering operations on the water. the water conditions turned to almost zero visibility underwater, so the crews that were down there were struggling to do what they had to do.
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so at approximately 1830 last night we had to stop operation because of the conditions out there in the water. we did maintain a presence out here last night for any reports, and i appreciate the media putting out telephone numbers. fortunately we received no calls last night of any debris washing up anywhere and that was a good thing. so right now we are in the, as the colonel stated a recovery phase. the coast guard has contacted a salvage unit out of mobile. i don't know the name of that agency. you'll have to ask the coast guard that, but we expect them to come on site late late afternoon, early evening, but as you can see with the conditions and we have some weather coming in later on they probably won't be able to start any operation tonight. i don't know what the weather is tomorrow, but i believe we have some more weather coming in tomorrow so that may hamper the beginning of their operation.
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okay? so at this point, as the colonel state -- >> we're as you hear getting an update on what's now called the recovery of that helicopter crash in florida. it's believed that all 11 service members on board that black hawk were killed. right now the weather is hampering the search for the wreckage but at this point we heard at officials say none of the debris, none of the wreckage is washed up to shore at this point. so, again, we will continue to monitor the latest developments out of florida, but heartbreaking news as it is believed that the 11 service members, some of them from camp lejeune and others from louisiana, have all died in this crash yesterday and we'll continue to follow the latest development on this search which could possibly resume as early as we're hearing now tomorrow. we'll be right back. we've always been at the forefront of advanced electronics. providing technology to get more detail... ♪ ♪ detect hidden threats...
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turning back to breaking news we've been following.
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we just learned two officers shot have now been released from the hospital. one officer suffered injuries to his face the other to his shoulder. police are still searching for the suspect or suspects who opened fire. witnesses describe hearing at least four shots fired in the direction of the police officers. the crowd was gathered outside the department following the resignation of police chief thomas jackson. those on the scene describe most of the night peaceful before the legend. >> spoke out during the aftermath of eric garner's death, the case has drawn similarities to what's happening in ferguson. we were going to talk about this movie you've got coming out and transitioned from hip-hop, which you're loyal to to acting but i want method man on to talk about his thoughts. you had a friend killed in
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staten island as a result of what's believe to be a police shooting -- >> it was death by asphyxiation same as eric garner. >> i apologize. >> when you see a pattern like that, it raise anz eyebrow. great people in my old community that law-abiding citizens go to work every day, come home, feed their kids but struggling and tht our way of life. there are great cops out there too. some cops they go above and beyond the call of duty to maybe help someone with the groceries upstairs, things of that nature. community cops. but then you have bad apples and all bad apples don't ruin the batch. for me being on both sides of it, because in earlier on in my life being a youth in the hood i would be harassed. illegal searches the works. as i got older knowing my rights and because of the
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persona, method man, whatever the cops were a little bit more lenient. a bit more understanding, maybe they didn't want to write the ticket that day, who knows. i was treated differently. i know there aren't all bad cops and all bad people in the hood. i think there should be some type of forum for both sides to speak to each other for some type of understanding. >> we've been having this conversation for a very long time when nwa came out with infamous song police were offended and some people said this is about hating cops but it was a story of what was happening and that was the '80s. and now here we are, 2015 still talking about this adverse sarial police officers black and brown. >> a lot has to do with
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barriers there was a lot going on in l.a. at the time and hip-hop is always reflected as background. a lot of us felt that way, you know what f them i'm looking at my situation illegally searched at 13 and on my way to a minimum paying job and getting searched in my own building where i live yeah f the police. you have to understand it's all about fear -- >> on both sides. >> we're afraid of the police of what they can do and power that we think that they wield as far as if something happens to me from a police officer, will it be covered up? will there be justice for me whatever? with the cops we don't live in these neighborhoods, we know what we see on television and what other people have told us. but we have guns and when you deal with human nature human nature not just this is an
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officer who's dealing with things professionally he's still a human being. and when that fear kicks in, you never know what can happen. i made an analogy how someone can tap you on the shoulder scare the mess out of you and your first reaction is to turn an and smack them. imagine if you have a gun in your hand? it's the same thing. with this thing ha happened in ferguson just now with the two officers, sad, very sad. i hate to say that fbi report kind of played into this and these things shouldn't be happening, but you reap what you sow in a sense. if the fbi report never came out and the scandal, how they are giving -- paying the city by giving people tickets and things like that. but we knew this already, this is common knowledge in the ghetto. when they come in the hood -- guys used to sit out and drink beer in public never a problem
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at times. but when they are trying to make quote tas -- >> that applies to drug arrests as well. the number of arrests with marijuana, the time that people are sentenced for drug offenses when they are black and brown versus white. i think that when i look at your career and the tract of it from starting out as you pointed out in the hood to where you are now, this voice, are enough black men like you taking the lead and speaking up? >> we have a lot but i don't think they have the same voices that some of the rap artists or actors do because the kids see us more. we have people like cornell west even tour'e from the bottom to the top, he came up with me as far as interviews and things. we've got a lot of black people that can speak -- i'm not --
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g.e.d., high school diploma, but i deal with things on a scale of real -- the way i can grasp them on a grounded level, i can give analogies all day about how i feel but can't put it in political speak. >> you do a great job and i think -- i could talk to you all day long. that means you've got to come back and we have to talk about so much more. i know you're on the road. congratulations on everything and most importantly, thank you for being such a powerful and authentic voice -- >> i appreciate that. >> that does it for this edition. i wish this could go on and on talking with method man, but hopefully we get him back. our coverage will continue and andrea mitchell will interview the missouri state senator. we'll be right back. business owners get started. visit legalzoom today for the legal help you need to start and run your business. legalzoom. legal help is here.
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