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and officer wilson was acquitted. >> safe to say the relationship between the police and community remains tenuous at best. >> at this hour the manhunt is ongoing for the shooting officers of two police officers in st. louis missouri. the police chief scheduled a press conference for 5:00 p.m. eastern today. though three people were brought in for questioning they've all since been released and no arrests have been made but the violence has not deterred the largely peaceful protests that first spring up in the aftermath of the michael brown killing last august. dozens gathered for an interfaith candlelight vigil for all who mourn. the vigil gave way to quiet demonstrations later in the night and activists from ferguson and across the country are gathering in st. louis for a truth telling conference to discuss police community relations and how to empower

local communities. in an interview with jimmy kimmel last night, president obama lent his support to peaceful protests, calling police practices in ferguson oppressive and objectionable and worthy of protest. but not everyone has been convinced. here is former new york city mayor rudy giuliani on fox news yesterday. >> hands up total lie. total absolute lie. what happened in ferguson a man committed a robbery, attempted to assault a police officer, and the police officer to save his life, shot him and the police officer did his duty. the police officer should be commended for what he did. he did exactly what he should do. had there been no rioting last night, this wouldn't have happened. >> joining me is president d most heather mcgee and professor paul butler. in terms of the doj report and their conclusion that effectively mike brown was moving towards officer wilson when wilson shot him, and that

the witnesses say basically say brown dropped his hands at some part and charged at wilson undermining the phrase that became associated with this case, hands up don't shoot. there's been so much focus on that conclusion on the part of the right wing and conservatives like rudy giuliani and no tension, no discussion about the other scathing findings of the report about systemic racial bias in the ferguson police department. >> yes, so there were conflicting witness accounts about what happened and some eyewitnesses did say that mr. brown had his hands up that was disputed. i was a great prosecutor, alex i don't know if i could win that case if i were prosecuting officer wilson. what i do know is that the practice of lawsuit in which the department of justice is wholesale remaking the ferguson police department, because they discriminate against black people, they use african-american citizens like an atm to fund their jobs that will bring about far more important change in ferguson

than prosecuting one bad cop. >> the important part i think, important and also distressing part of that sentence is in ferguson, right, heather? donovan x. ram say saying in "the new york republic" the problem of police brutality is hardly endemic to the city. what about the rest of the 18,000 departments across the country that may have similarly sick cultures and procedures." it should not begin and end in ferguson. >> that has been part of the story this whole time. the loss of life of michael brown as tragic as it was, has been repeated in some form or another, virtually every day since his death, and the thing that made ferguson different was that the community, which had been brutalized by these practices and told for years that they were simply not citizens but rather suspect for anything, for driving their car, for letting their weeds grow too high in their lawns, stood up

and for hundreds of days said no. that isn't happening all across the country and therefore, the kind of attention that we've been drawing to ferguson has not yet gone to not even the next town over in st. louis county where citizens are saying you know what? the same thing is happening here. so this really does have to be a national solution that shifts the paradigm. >> what is the catalytic event that makes it national? it shouldn't have to be the shooting, the killing of an unarmed young black man that sort of makes a community wake up to what's happening in its police department. >> well, and this is the time for leadership. you could very much say that across the country, people have been protesting really non-stop in various forms and really beautiful sort of call and response manner under the headline "black lives matter" and yet what is supposed to happen then in a democracy, which is that elected officials are supposed to be responsive isn't happening, because we've seen the plitt tickization of this issue which should be

uniting conservatives, small government conservatives and liberals who are focused on racial justice. >> a huge piece of this seems to be the data. if you look at the problem, if you look at the issue of use of force by police the new bureau of justice did a statistics study. the annual number of people shot by police is twice as high as is reported. just getting the numbers on how many people are killed by police is difficult enough. >> because they're not required to be kept. the federal government does not mandate. that needs to change. people think there's nothing that can be done about the instances, excessive force. well, there were at least 1,000 times last year where the police killed civilians. in germany, four times. in england, zero times last year. what's the difference? >> what's the difference? >> it's not because we're more violent than people in the other countries.

it's because we allow the police to use force when they're arresting for minor offenses like jaywalking if there's not cooperation, the police can take out their gun. that's not allowed in the united kingdom. >> it's such a loaded subject. being critical of a nation's law enforcement and most of the nations law enforcement i don't think is racist. i don't think this is something a brush that we can paint every police officer with, but you look at these smaller examples heather, capital new york has a report that the nypd, they said this is under review but the wikipedia page which describes what happened to eric garner the language in and around what happened in that incident has gotten changed from garner raised both his arms in the air to garner flailed his arms about as he spoke. they added from use of the chokehold has been prohibited that was changed to use of the

chokehold is legal but prohibited and added the sentence garner who was considerably larger than any of the officers continued to struggle with them as perhaps evidence about to give a reason as to why this went down in the first place. i mean when we have these sort of -- when the narrative about what even happened is so it's not done being litigated, i mean, it makes final justice that much more difficult. >> right, it is very difficult that we do not have a culture, excuse me a culture in this country of accepting our acts of deplorable violence. we are still in a state of national amnesia about the tragedies that have been perpetuated by the state and state actors in this country against people of color and it's not necessary to be in that state. question accept these things happen and that racial hierarchy is part of the history of this country and baked into our media and stereotypes, almost like the

oxygen that we breathe. it's in our system and we haven't been doing a very good job of teaching people not how to inhale and exhale and have it act out in their actions. we could take responsibility off each bad actor and say this is a national problem and admit it and talk about starting to heal together. >> what people like mayor giuliani don't understand is this isn't a movement about equal justice under the law although that's important. it's also a movement about public saturday. it's an anti-violence movement against violence by the police and violence by anyone else. so that's why the protesters were the first to condemn the shooting of the officers in ferguson. one of the things the justice report filled when white people got searched the police were more likely to find guns and contraband on film.

this is helping the police keep communities safer. >> this is about a president at this moment and i have been i think heartened by the way in which he has been forceful transparent, forth right about the issue of what has happened in ferguson about the doj report. i wonder what you think of i won't call it emboldened, there have been other points of his presidency he talked about race but the way he's coming out at least in parallel with the issue. >> he's not been backed into the corner of having to deny what is manifestly clear. the fact he said immediately those that fired the shot should not detract from and went into doing what he hasn't done which is explain on jimmy kimmel in layman's terms something that should and does shock the conscience of everyone who hears about it which is the situation that leads a black woman to park

her car illegally once and end up spending six days in jail and charged over $1,000. the president of the united states with his incredible abilities to connect with people should be the one saying explaining that situation to the american people. that's he what he did and that was a huge step forward even dwrond rhetoric. this is what's happening to your fellow citizens in the community. >> the sheer injustice is so unpalatable and egregious for people who don't understand this is happening in the world. >> i think he's starting to understand that his legacy is going to be about race and racial justice and he doesn't want the first images of his presidency to be african-americans dancing in the streets of harlem because people were so excited about what it meant to have the first black president, but the last images to be the doj ferguson report images from the summer of african-americans being chased by dogs just like selma. so i think there was something

about that 50th anniversary that energized him so i think we're seeing a new barack obama. >> we'll be watching closely. heather mcgee and paul butler thanks for your time. >> great to be here. after the break, just how involved is iran in the fight against isis? we will look at unlikely battle lines in iraq. plus members from the local chapter of sae in oklahoma may be gearing up for a legal fight with the university, and later, do democrats have anyone or everyone in the bull pen if hillary clinton cannot go the distance? all of that is ahead on "now." introducing new always discreet underwear for sensitive bladders, from always. with soft, dual leakguard barriers to help stop leaks where they happen most. plus a discreet fit, that hugs your curves. always discreet.

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were killed in an bar province after the members of islamic state dug a mile-long tunnel filled it with explosive devices and detonated them. the latest attack comes as the group faces losses and defeats across the country at the hands of kurdish peshmerga forces and u.s.-led air strikes in northern iraq and iraqi shiite militia in tikrit, where iraq's prime minister says three-quarters of the city has been recaptured from isis. but of the thousands of fighters in that battle only a fraction of them some 12%, are iraqi soldiers employed by the government. 4% of them are sunni tribal fighters. the remaining 83%, approximately 20,000 men are members of shiite militias backed by iran. the battle against ice ice, iran's already strong influence in iraq increased and iran's influence is now out in the open. last week the head of iran's notorious quds force general

suleimani was seen walking in tikrit. it's one of a handful appearances in recent weeks on the front lines. joining me is zanaib salbi, thank you for joining me. i just want to get your initial reaction to the notion that iran is operating so plainly in the battle for tikrit and whether you have concern about the power of these shiite militias. >> alex it's good to be here. when i talk to iraqis friends and families all over iraq they are not seeing it as a big threat as it's been described in america. iraq feels there is a threat from isis shia population generally are really worryied for their lives. isis has killed a lot of shia. from a shia population the majority of iraqis they see eye iranian help or assistance as

real politics we need all the help we can take to get rid of isis. it is not seen as iranian intervention trying to take over iraq. none of that is seen on the ground in my opinion. that's different from a sunni population who have hostilities to iran suspicious of shias, so it's a matter of a point of view, i don't think it's a black and white dynamic. >> what about the rise in sectarian given iran's influence and the history here? >> the way i see it having grown up in iraq the sectarianism actually started from is adan hussein who was discriminating against the shias, and that never was resolved. that historic alal healing has never happened since the fall of saddam and iraq invasion. they prosecuted hundreds of thousands of them were killed and sent to the borders in iran and were deported from their countries, the shias feel resentful that the sunnis never

acknowledged that they were prosecuted and killed so that reconciliation has not happened. everyone is feeling bitter defensive, angry at the other and justifying their own justice against the other. >> i think for americans who are presently enghanlgd lyly engaged in high level nuclear talks with iran there's been a lot of blow-back and back and forth between republicans who sent a letter effectively to iran's supreme leader there's a contentious relationship between iran and the united states. cia director john brennan said "there is an alignment of some interests between ourselves" referring to america, "and iran." that sentence is stunning for a lot of americans who don't understand how the battle in it iraq has shifted alliances and sort of battle lines, enemy lines if you will.

>> absolutely. i hope alliances not only comes between iraq and iran but between sunni and shias in the arab world. isis is as bad as it can happen and if that is not a wake-up call for the arabs and iranians to say that we are, let's say even with arabs or iraqis to say we are only one people we are iraqi, one line and we need to defend it beyond being sunni and shia. if that's not a wake-up call i don't know what is. right now is the time of unity and time to get rid of actually what is being described in the middle east as the evil time referring to isis behavior and actions. people on the ground shia in iraq and the arab world they're saying our lives are being threatened, not only isis but extremist sunnis constantly say you should kill the shias and we welcome the support for self-preservation. we need to understand the psychology of the reamon what

are people feeling and how we may use this opportunity to reconcile some of these are not historical issue, these are political contemporary issues. there is a way to solve it and unite the country, there is a way to unite arabs and a way to unite some peace between are bees and muslims. i don't see the iranian intervention or helping the iraqi army as a crisis at all. i think the crisis is isis and we have to focus on that. >> to that crisis there is a "washington post" headline that reads "islamic state appears to be fraying from within" and talks about various internal struggles that are happening within isis. at the same time boko haram pledged allegiance to isis and isis approved boko haram's allegiance. how do you see the best way to combat this the internal question and the broader global mass appeal of isis both on social media and with splinter

extremists around the globe. >> well today we also heard this week about some of the defects that are people leaving isis. there are many ways to sbatcombat isis. one is to talk about their atrocities and what they're doing and discrepancy between their propaganda war of recruiting people and telling them come to our own caliphate and the violations atrocities they're doing among men, among women, among children which iraqis keep talking about in volumes of records and evidence. that's one way. another way we have toed they are appealing for an identifylogical appeal in the middle east and this creates an alternative ideology where it's comprehensive, where it is encompassing everyone and creating unity among everyone. isis is creating jobs they're paying people $1,000 between $500 to $1,000 for soldiers. we need to address the unemployment issues in the region, 60% of the population

are under 30 and they're not employed. so there is many many ways to defeat isis beyond war and beyond the fighting. we need to address actually what is going on on the ground and we have unemployed youth. we have unemployed youth and this is the crisis of the situation. >> it is in the meantime beyond the blood shed there is the destruction of historic sites including the ancient ruins in the city of hatra, all over the region, the destruction to historical monuments and relics and archaeological sites is profound, to say nothing of the bloodshed. zainab salbi, always good to see you. thanks for your time. >> thank you. imagine this you are sitting by the side of the road texting, when all of a sudden america's most wanted criminal forces his way into your car with a gun. extraordinary testimony in the boston marathon bombing trial, next on "now." ♪ building aircraft,

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university of oklahoma. >> we are not here because we are interested in a legal solution. we seek to have some other resolution of this matter. we are interested where needed to act to protect the due process rights the first amendment rights and the 14th amendment rights of the members. i think there was a premature rush to judgment. i think it would have been better to have taken a more measured response. >> today sae's national organization distanced it self from the local chapter saying it has not retained legal representation, nor do we intend to pursue any action. we support and respect the university administrations' decision to revoke recognition of the group." sae is also investigating reports of racist behavior by fraternity members in at least three other states texas, louisiana and washington. joining me is senior digital editor at ebony.com, jameil

jameil lemiue josh barrow and "washington post" columnist jonathan capehart. as we read the legal arguments around this, do you think the local chapter has a case to be made? >> we have quite a strong case. the university of oklahoma is a public university and arms of the government including public universities can't punish people solely for their speech. now, i would say though that in order for that case to be won, it would have to be brought and if i'm the fraternity member of the fraternity i don't think i want a big public lawsuit over this. so i think it's actually i think it's very likely they will end up going away quietly. they hired a lawyer doesn't mean they'll file a lawsuit. they may try to get some settlement out of the university but the university from the public relations standpoint handled this welcoming out hard against the fraternity. i doubt that david boren and other university officials are eager to cut a settlement. they might welcome a lawsuit. >> well jonathan there's also this sort of you guys can do

this should you do it to josh's point. >> uh-huh. >> the national chapter is like no, no shutting down the fraternity was totally the right move we're not going to hire an attorney, really stringing the local chapter out to handle this completely on their own. >> well clearly i mean it's the local chapter who's out there saying they'll sue the school sue the president, sue everybody, and look, it's well within their right and that's actually a court case i'd love to see, maybe i'll fly down and sit in the room to watch the oral arguments. this would be amazing. the thing in his statement that i thought was interesting was that he thought that the university rushed to judgment. i mean we all saw what happened. what else was the university supposed to do? >> jameil i'd like your thoughts. this is about the whole frat. there are members of the frat arguably who were not on the bus and not racist or not bigots and they've been painted with the same brush as the other guys.

>> absolutely. colleges and the privileges of student organizations every single day for infractions way smaller than this. if you have the unfortunate luck of being a member of this chapter, you're not entitled to being an sae. >> you have to have the jell-o spots somewhere else. serena williams returns to indian wells since 2001. her statement is interesting. she says "i think a lot of the things that have been happening lately," not specifying what "definite hitly played a part in the picture of her return. i thought it was good timing not just for me but for americans in general to step up and say that we as a people we as americans, can do better. we can be better and we are better." what's your reaction to that? >> it's unfortunate that serena is one of the greatest living athletes, she's one of the greatest american athletes of all-time and she has never been embraced by her country i think in the way she should have been.

americans have not supported this woman and her sister venus on the level that they should. somebody of her athletic gift. >> i feel like when like the greatest tennis player some of the greatest athletes maybe that's just me the williams sisters are at the very very top of the list. >> absolutely. there's a difference between being acknowledged because men lie, women lie, numbers don't lie. we can't take away the number of wins and can't take away what she does on the court. this is somebody called a monkey and whose body is dissected not just by international columnists in sports but here in the united states. for her to return to the court with all the things happening in the country she wants to say i represent america. >> i like the idea jonathan that she's saying we can do better. like this kind of let's fix it together is not a message that we hear a lot in a fractious

debate about race if that's what she's talking about. >> if that's what she's talking about. we've been through a lot in the last six months definitely the last year and so for her to end this, how many years is it 14-year boycott, and seeing herself now as someone who can transcend a lot of things who wants to claim her americanness and stand up to those folks who booed her, and to her, she felt that a lot of the boos and comments that were made had a racist tinge, to stand up and say look i forgive you, i'm coming back and i'm representing tennis i'm representing myself and my family, and i'm representing the better nature of my country. >> yes, i also think it's a testament to how skilled she is that she can come back after 14 years of being away. if i went away from tv for 14 days, well we'll see if i ever go on vacation an oklahoma lawmaker suggests businesses should be allowed to discriminate against patrons,

including gays and lesbians but businesses must post a sign visibly informing potential customers of their decision to do so. josh, does not look like this is actually going anywhere because they've withdrawn the larger bill. it's an amazing idea you can be a bigot, you just have to wear it on a sign around your neck. >> it's interesting to see how the fights over the laws play out differently. arizona had this so-called religious freedom bill trying to establish exceptions for people with religious objections to xwai and lesbian people and it got defeated in the legislature in large part because of big pressure from business interests. there was a time the threat the nfl might pull the super bowl from phoenix. you've seen other states like arkansas where bills, arkansas passed a aboutily that prevented municipalities from establishing lgbt nondiscrimination ordinances and that got through i think because nobody was ever going to hold the super bowl in arkansas in the first place, which i say flippantly but the

national corporate interests have become broadly pretty pro-gay interests and the interests have different levels of influence and different legislatures and places so nevada for example moved relatively on a civil union law in large part because the casino industry was eager for civil unions. >> it's more money. >> it's partly gay and less bean employees in the hospitality industry and they want people to have their weddings in las vegas, they want everybody to go there and lose money. where the interests have influence you're seeing more support for lgbt rights than in places with less. >> i wonder jonathan if it's not the flipside to this maybe there are communities and places in this country where saying you don't serve gay people actually is an incentive for certain consumers. >> well clearly the people who are willing to put those signs in their windows, one, aren't ashamed to say that they're willing to discriminate. >> if this ever happens, the people that would do it to your point, yes, continue.

>> right, so clearly if they're willing to do that, and they stay in business for longer than a year after doing that clearly they have a market but who's going to want to be that person who walks into a store where the person says hey, because of my religious beliefs i'm not going to serve gay people and it starts with gay people and then next thing you know people are using their religious beliefs to discriminate against someone else for some other reason. >> and we're talking about bakeries here who wants to buy their cup takes from a place that says we don't serve these kinds of people. >> right. >> before we end this segment i have to get to this because i'm obsessed with it. powdered alcohol or palcohol won federal approval this week and available at your local liquor store this summer. jameila you can get cosmopolitan, powderita, v, which is vodka and rru. >> i'm not going to any sae parties so i don't have a need for palcohol.

>> it would make jell-o shot making that easier. i love the concept of powdered alcohol. i think it's a great idea. josh? >> it sounds gross. jell-o shots are not that difficult to make. you need liquid anyway so it's convenient the vodka comes in liquid form. >> a pixie stick of vodka. >> that's gross. >> one of the warnings raised is kids might try to snort it. >> yes, obviously kids are going to try and snort it. >> which is a very bad idea. >> this seems like a terrible idea and also awesome for me personally but not for the country. do you agree? anything? no support, capehart? >> no, absolutely not. what is this national obsession about putting powder in water anyway? i don't get it. just drink the booze straight. >> i'm going to bring this up with another panel and hope that they like the idea of palcohol. jameil, josh jonathan happy friday and thank you for your

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2016 hopefuls. jeb bush and scott walker are both making their first visits to the granite state this weekend. rick perry is also there with the full schedule today in the state we know he loves and which he has spent many an awesome day in the past. democrats meanwhile are waiting to see if the full house of representatives will subpoena hillary clinton's e-mail server. the contrast is leading to much speculation these days about the democrats' bench or as some have it the democrats' throne. is hillary clinton really running on a post or is she just winning the shadow primary? joining me is joan walsh and nick comensor pi. is a fascinating philosophical discussion as much as it is anything else. there's a question whether there is a bench we're not talking about. >> who's got the bench, where did they put it. >> ezra says hillary clinton isn't running unopposed.

she's so strong running in the primary no one thinks it's worth getting in the game >> she's the only candidate. i think it's insane. there are things you do if you are sort of kind of thinking of running for president. martin o'malley is the only one besides her who is doing any of those things and he isn't doing it effectively or at scale. >> you interviewed martin o'malley. >> i did. >> you asked ready for eries beth, where is the ready for martin sign? >> are you mad there's no ready for martin and he handled it with grace and dignity. he's feeling overlooked and sort of having a moment but the only thing anybody wants to talk to him about is will he slam hillary clinton, like a test of manhood which i think is offensive to everybody involved. look, she probably won't have much opposition. she may not have any, but ezra makes a good point. it's not because people are afraid of her. she doesn't have naked pictures of people she's not blackmailing people. >> we'll never find out if she

has photos of people. >> because she deleted all of them. >> i guess the question is to the o'malley question he serves a useful purpose in a primary situation, which is pressing hillary on issues he considers himself a progressive, but it's very -- >> main stay classic. >> he won't say whether he's to the leftor or the right, he says i prefer to couch it versus backwards. he wants to reinstate glass-steagall. >> i don't think it's fair to credit her for her husband. would she reinstate it? >> he could serve that purpose. but he wants to be a silent example of youth and featureism versus her and hopefully it will become something later down the road. if warren could be an issue poll against her, she hasn't done any of the things you'd do aside from leaving it not quite ruled

out whenever she's asked about it. she's not doing this her lawyers are working for hillary now. >> i want to take this moment to talk about some of the other people that are mentioned as bench warmers potential ones andrew cuomo, bernstein's piece, cuomo, tim caine, amy klobuchar, sharon brown and deval patrick. who is not given props the man who released a vine doing pirks accept quurlzcurls for physical fitness. joe biden, what is happening there, nick what is the point of the video? >> in spring training for a camp. >> get on the bench. >> he's had a rehabilitation as vice president. he has been running for president for almost two decades, more than that maybe, so it's not exactly a perfect counter-point to hillary clinton. he is the vice president. if for some reason he chose to run, that will be quite a battle but again, if you talk to all

the people who can get behind the candidate, donors activists, organizations, they don't have like a quuplecouple of top choice, they have one choice. >> one choice. there are a lot more candidates running potentially on the right side. >> yes. >> and a new tax plan that marco rubio trouted out which cuts the capital gain rate to zero. host of really irresponsible things that would blow i think a $2.4 trillion cost the government in lost revenue over ten years if it had gone into place. these are the goal posts that jeb bush and the republicans are going to have to play between, making it a very big disparity between potentially what the democrats have and republicans. >> it's the kansas miracle. they're bringing us the kansas budget. it would be a disaster. they only care about it when there's a democrat in office and

care about making rich poem happy. we give them credit for having a deep bench, which they don't. they have a long bench. >> a long bench. >> bobby jindal versus kirsten gellg gillebranded. people like scott walker. >> i feel when you get into the policy specifics jeb bush has choppy waters ahead in navigating the primary and a lot of democrats are going to be happy hillary clinton is running on the post as of now. >> i think the contest in the gop side will be jeb bush changing his party or not. that's the main access for the whole thing. the rubio tax plan it's off the shelf tax policy for a republican isn't anything innovative about it. jeb bush promise a reformacon reformacon agenda on policy.

>> good luck. >> it would be nice to see a conservative bold spending platform, here's what i'm going to cut and tell us how you'll save money as a result and cut taxes. let's start with the spending cuts. >> they really expect us to believe that cutting taxes is a policy for growth when we had the bush recession. >> correct. we remember. it was just a few years ago and it was a terrible idea! >> even young people. >> that is what we should be talking about instead of the e-mail server. i think we got america someplace. >> and joe biden doing the curls. >> and the curls. >> thank you guys. coming up when it comes down to state versus karma, who wins? that's next on "now." ♪ turn around ♪ ♪ every now and then i get a little bit tired ♪ ♪ of craving something that i can't have ♪ ♪ turn around barbara ♪ ♪ i finally found the right snack ♪ ♪ ♪ ♪ building aircraft,

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good evening americans, welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota, let's get to work. tonight, a new chapter in the clinton dynasty. >> thank you all. >> and later, blaming the president for the ferguson police shooting. >> there's an atmosphere of unbalance here. >> pity the fool. >> i'm embarrassed for them. >> let me say t you are entitled to nothing. >> saving social security. >> one thing i do know damned well is you don't cut those benefits. you expand those benefits. >> good to have you with us today. thanks for watching. america could care less that's the analysis right now about the hillary clinton using her personal e-mail account. the gallup poll shows that 50% of americans have