tv The Rachel Maddow Show MSNBC March 17, 2015 9:00pm-10:01pm PDT
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both. that is it for "all in." >> thank you for joining us this hour. today was a day of lots of late breaking news from particularly overseas. in israel polls closed at 4:00 p.m. eastern time. 10:00 p.m. local time in israel and the whole world is waiting to see the fate of israel's prime minister and if he will be elected or if they will take a great leap to the left by rejected prime minister netanyahu and his party. the results are not a black and white yes and no question any time soon. it shows the two major parties got roughly equal numbers of votes and seats in parliament.
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so that story, broke late this afternoon with polls closing. it continues to develop tonight and will continue to develop into tomorrow and beyond. we also got late word tonight from the secret service, just a few minutes ago, that a letter that arrived recently at the white house has tested positive for signs of cyanide. nobody is said to be in danger from the letter, it is undergoing further testing, but we have that result from the secret service in the last few minutes. we have more on that story in just a few minutes. we have in the midst of the breaking news today, a shocking note here at home in politics. a high member of congress
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suddenly resigned without warning or much of an explanation. in 2007, one of the profoundly steady hands of american politics announced that he would not be running for office again. his name was ray lahood. he was reelected from a safe district from republicans in peoria, illinois. he was steady enough and boring enough. >> justin: noncontroversial enough that president obama picked him to be the transportation secretary after ray lahood finished his time in congress even though he was a republican, he became part of president obama's cabinet. the absence of him in his seat, it was no problem for the republican party in illinois. that district is very reliably red, and illinois republicans had a boy wonder ready to step up and take that seat.
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aaron schock who won a seat when he was just 23 years old. the state never had a younger lawmaker than aaron schock. he was aggressive, attractive, and did i mention young. at the time he was readying his run, republicans in congress at the time were trying to remake themselves in the image of a youthful party. they launched a republican young guns campaign in 2007 aaron schock was a much younger gun. reelected at only 27 to congress. in 2008 republicans got beaten badly. they lost ground in the senate and house. in 2008 republicans in congress got from illinois this new boy
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wonder. earn schock. the first member of congress born in the 1980s. so when he came up from peor ia to congress. the beltway press loves to do stories about the workout routines of members of congress. this bipartisan story about members of congress working out appeared last summer filed under fashion. here he is enjoying his bipartisan workout. these two members of congress very attractive, very young, a bipartisan duo in the gym. the new generation in congress.
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right now in the background of this photo see the guy in the red t-shirt? that is congressman kevin mccarthy. he was supposed to be the young gun guy. he started the young guns not that long ago. when you're the haunchy guy in the background of the picture, you in the red shirt can't be the young gun any more. new guy is the young gun. that is young. also look at his guns. i mean -- aaron schock was the boy wonder that republicans were hoping for. attractive, fit, new kid on the politic. -- block. he did not do all that much. he is not associated with any causes. he was able to parlay it into tons and tons of media appearances and a republican generation y pac, and a cover of men's health.
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he was handsome aaron schock. he was it. and yeah, sure, maybe he decided he would read a magazine called "washington life" on the floor of the house while kathleen sibilias it talking about medicare. there was always another thing about him from the very beginning of his career. when aaron schock was first running for congress, local
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press in illinois ran stories about when he was barely out of his teens. false dates on documents raise questioning for schock. his parents were victims of a financial same. and there was a trial. his dad testified in that trial that his son signed off on back dated documents. the date was off by more than a year. he was a public notary. at the time the "peoria star journal" said that that could be considered a crime. that report appeared less than a month before the election that sent him to congress. it was just a little
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embarrassment on his way to becoming a young republican star in congress. he went on to congress. that story was not a big problem for him. but it might have been a first sign. this then became a big problem. february of this year, a washington post style reporter names ben terrace stopped by his new office on capital hill and described the room this way, bright red walls, a gold wall sconce. the receptionist said the decor was based on "downton abbey." and then his interior designer popped out of a doorway and introduced herself and showed the congressman's private office with a dramatic red motif with very memorable furnishings, like a chandelier and pheasant
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feathers. when they realized they had a reporter taking a tour and snapping pictures about the office, they asked the reporter to delete the photos from their phone. the scale of the design, asking the reporter to get rid of the pictures. then the congressman got in real trouble as they tried to make this not such a big deal. the congressman's staff said the designer offered her services for free. she volunteered her time. that detail, that explanation that the work had been donated to aaron schock, that is a gift then, right? a donation. that led to allegations that he was violating the rules about accepting gifts as a member of congress. that little beltway style report about congressman aaron schock office was a human interest thing.
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it started as a very fast, very ultimately destructive cascade of terrible news. there was allegations that he might have taken private plane rides. then they cross referenced his fancy instagram feed that showed him at concerts and things. and then we learned that congressman schock's staffers went on a taxpayer funded trip to new york where they had few official duties. what started as one off hand comment about the decorating of his office in this way turned into a full-blown mess for aaron schock. and congressman schock dealt with it as best he could.
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he paid $40,000 for the office redesign. he hired staffers, lawyers, a pr team, accountants to lock over his books. he held a press conference back home. that he was going to do better in the future. >> i know that when i take a trip and i post photos online it can create the misimpression of being out of touch. i tried to balance being a young congressman and doing things differently and more open with maintaining a level of seriousness. i listened to the feedback of the folks in my district. i believe you have to earn the trust of the voters, and that's what i intend to do. >> you have to earn the trust every day. that was the other day in his home district.
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he heard the voters and he was going to get this right. it was embarrassing, it didn't necessarily have to be more than that. more than embarrassing until now. reporters seem to have been on to another story about congressman schock. yesterday they reported he used campaign money to pay for mileage on an suv he owned. he billed taxpayers for the mileage, and this afternoon, jake sherman said he was resigning after he was questioned about his mileage reimbursements. he was reimbursed for more miles than the suv had been travelled. politico is taking an implicit victory lap over this. but here is the question in his written statement today he didn't say why he was stepping
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down. he said the constant questions over the last six weeks are a grease distraction. he resigned. announced he is leaving office coming march 2 -- 31st. and we still don't know why. is it something worse about the mileage story? was it just a cumulative affect of all of those stories? or was there some 50th shoe about to drop? that he thought was going to be harder to survive than
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everything else he has so far made it through? that he would want to get out of congress before something else would happen. why is congressman schock leaving for real. joining us now is lynn who has covered him since 2008. >> hi, rachel. >> why do you believe from your reporting, what do you think is indicated about why he resigned today? i can't tell what is the worst thing he has been accused of. there has been a lot over these last few weeks. >> there is mounting number of serious legal questions that he is facing, including questions that i have that his team knew about the mileage too. the same stuff that politico was covering they knew i had the same information. but what i think really was going on here is that he knew that not only were there stories
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in the pipeline he knew about, but i think his team figured there was storied they didn't yet know about. he also kind of knew it was the end of the road for him no matter what. he craved celebrity and a yet set lifestyle. that was ending. he had serious legal problems that he hopes to down play by quitting and playing back some of the money as certain things become apparent. and i think he is losing support locally, almost every local newspaper and columnist was writing scathing editorials about him. the life he loving in congress was over. and i would not under estimate that either. i would emphasize that even though he can leave congress and end the investigations from the office of ethics, this does not automatically erase anything the
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justice department might feel like doing or a lesser regulatory agency. >> is there any indication that the doj has started any sort of investigation into him? would we know if they have. >> nothing serious in the case of all of these questions about how he used campaign and taxpayer money. they might -- by quitting congress he makes himself less of a target. no one has reported that the department of justice opened any kind of inquiry. >> lynn, one last question here in terms of thinking about his trajectory. is this the sort of thing that was foreshadowing about? was there shadows like this that followed him earlier in his career. it felt like a celebrity young congressman, once that office thing happens, the cascade that followed just felt like a side that had been held back. >> part of it was that he did report his spending and that
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made it possible to put together the stories. you had multiple news organizations including the sun times looking at him. if it wasn't for the "downton abbey" story, it would not have raised questions enough that people would start looking. it shows that the press has this watchdog story. he had questionable use of his campaign and taxpayer money and i just, for people listening, there are things maybe symbolic like bad taste if you don't like his red office, but it did lead to his whole kind of dealing
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with his taxpayer and government money. coming under a microscope that might otherwise not have happened. >> lynn, thank you for helping us out. >> thank you so much. >> much more ahead including more news on that breaking news that we just learned in the last hour about a letter sent to the white house about a letter that tested positive for cyanide. ask schock breaking news that saw her first day of school. (little girl) bye bye! made a best friend forever. the back seat of my subaru is where she grew up. what? (announcer) the 2015 subaru forester (girl) what? (announcer) built to be there for your family. love. it's what makes a subaru
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about ten miles out of washington dc, there is a place called beltsville, maryland. if you find yourself flying over beltsville one day and you have binoculars, you might look down and see something that roughly resembles the white house, sort of. it is a fake white house they have set up at the secret service's training center in beltsville, maryland. it is a sprawling complex that has everything from a fake
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marine one, and a fake air force one. it is half of a fake air force one. they have a fake village where the secret service can practice tactical maneuvers, and a fake white house that is apparently not that good of a fake white house. the secret service director told congress today they want a new fake white house to train on. something a little more of a exact replica of the actual building and the actual white house grounds. >> we don't have the bushes, we don't have the fountains, and don't get a realistic look at the white house. even our k-9. they're responding on hard surfaces rather than grass. >> the secret service director was already scheduled to testify today about the agency's budget before we got the latest round of posts after secret service agents drove a vehicle on grounds and hit a temporary barrier after a night of drinking at a washington bar. even though those on the scene wanted to arrest those agents, a
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supervisor reportedly ordered the uniformed officers to not arrest the agents and not be tested for alcohol, and just be sent home. clancy was grilled today about this latest incident. in particular about why he, as a director of the secret service was not even informed about this until five days after it happened. in the midst of that discussion, there was one remarkable moment when director clancy talked about how his agency has issues. specifically issues with alcohol. watch this. there is an element within our agency that does cope with the stresses that many of you mentioned today by using alcohol. there is no question. we have that element. we also have other elements that are in agency, that go to a different route. some go to exercise, some go to religion. some go to family. we have to find a way to help people that are going to alcohol to solve their problems as a
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apart from iraq. >> when we do something in our country, we don't ask anyone we don't tell anyone, we just do it. >> we don't ask anyone, we don't tell anyone, we just do it. that was bashar al assad last month. they were pressing him about u.s. aircraft flying in syrian airspace as they lead a coalition effort in syria and iraq. syria as a country has considerable air defenses so it was worth asking if u.s. aircraft should be seen as at risk when they fly michigans over syria.
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now a u.s. ayrcraft has gone down in syria. the government is claiming they shot down an american predator drone over syria and not for from the turkish border. they claim it is the wreckage site. you can see people trying to load the wreckage into a truck, other people showing off burnt parts of what they claim is an aircraft. the silver lining here is there is no pilot or crew on a predator aircraft like this. after these images were shown on syrian tv all day, the pentagon confirmed it was a drone that they lost contact with today. they're not saying it was shot down. they say at this time we have no information to corroborate press reports that the aircraft was shot down. we will provide more details when available. we're now eight months into this war never voted on or debated by
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this congress. there is questions that need to be asked if not answered. first, was it shot down? if it was, do we expect them to shoot down more u.s. drones. how dangerous is it for the u.s. for it's drones to be shot down and recovered by the syrian government, or conceivably by isis or mill assistant groups. when they get one of our drones, what do they get that could help or hurt our military? and it is one thing to lose a drone, it is another thing to lose a pilot, or a pilot and a crew. does losing this drone today n syria inform the question of how much risk our pilots are at as we head into the eighth month of this undeclared air war including more than 2700 bombing missions already. joining me now is colonel jack
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jacobs. what do you believe tonight about whether it was shot down. >> they're not talking. everybody has drones, the services have drones, the defense department has drones, the cia has drones, it's not entirely clear whether was a drone that was armed and an attack drone, or if it was doing surveillance, and i think they want to get their story straight before they tell anybody anything. >> in terms of the value of this, as a piece of crashed and salvaged equipment, is it -- is there a difference in terms of it's potential value to the syrian forces or someone else that might recover something like this? >> thankfully no there is no difference. all of the codes change. the frequencies that are used change. i can't envision isis or syria who have their hands full at the moment trying to reverse engineer drones, i don't think
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any of the information on the drone will be usable to them. and we change things all of the time to make sure it's not. >> drones fly definitely than piloted aircraft do, should we take comfort in that that if this was shot down that it doesn't tell us whether or not our pilots are at more risk? >> i think so. i think it is a good way to look at it, drones are slow, they're much less expensive. they have good lauder time. they can hang around for a long, long time. manned aircraft are expensive and extremely lethal. they can detect when enemy radar locked on, enemy bullets or missils are on the way if and they shoot from over the horizon, way out of harm's way. so when we fly manned missions
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in this area, we do so at a great distant from the target area, putting our guys far less at risk which is one reason why we use drones and not manned aircraft. >> jack jacobs, incredibly clarifying and helpful. thank you. >> straight ahead we have a lot to come including the interview tonight. senator barbara boxer is here. they call it planning for retirement because getting there requires exactly that. a plan for what you want your future to look like. for more than 145 years, pacific life has been providing solutions to help individuals like you achieve long-term financial security. bring your vision for the future to life with pacific life. talk to a financial advisor to help build and protect your retirement income. pacific life. the power to help you succeed. want to know a secret? i wasn't always a redhead. you'd never know it though
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great answer. however, you have people, for example, senator reinhoff who is throwing snowballs, saying it is the greatest hoax perpetrated on the american public that there is anything we do or that that it is even real. >> i ask the chair, you know what this is, it is a snowball from outside here, very cold, very unseasonable, so chairman, catch this. >> it would be funny if it wasn't for the fact that he is chairman of the climate. >> president obama saying it is disturbing that he is in charge of the environment and the u.s. senate. the chair when the democrats were in control was barbara boxer.
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now it is james inhoffe who believes that clearly because it snowed climate change is a hoax. he gets to see the unveiling of a huge new thing, the first update on toxic chemicals in 39 years, and the san francisco chronicle has now reported on a draft that has been circulated ahead of tomorrow's hearing and there is a mistake in the draft that has provided an "oh my god" moment in politics. everybody has cynicism about what happens in politics. only once in a blue moon do you get a mistake that makes it totally clear what is going on. in recent days, a draft of the bill was circulated by one senators office ahead of the hearing.
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it was sent in the form of a microsoft word document. they took the radical digital forensic step of right clicking and looking at the properties of who created that document. as listed on that document, the company that created this draft bill of the new rules, the company is listed as the american chemistry council. the leading trade organization and lobbyist for the trade city. barbara boxer told the chronicle "call me old-fashioned, but a bill to protect the public from harmful chemicals should not be written by chemical lobbiests. the current democrat to replace
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her is the camela harris. she released a blistering letter about the new bill saying it it would eviscerate california's own rules on chemicals. because it has not been updated since 1976 lots of states have set up their own safety regulations around chemicals including california. the new bill, arguably, would undo that. if you think of something like the federal minimum wage, that sets a floor. you can go higher, but no one can go lower. states can do better if they want to. and that is how these things usually work. the new law they will unveil tomorrow would eventually overtime set federal standards,
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but it would also block any state that wanted to set their more stringent rules. so when it comes to regulating toxic junk, the new law would tell a state like california they're not allowed to have better safety regulations than any other state or than the federal government as the federal government slowly gets around to making new standards since the 70s on that. that is what is getting unveiled. the chief democratic negotiator, tom udahl has been in congress since 1998. last year for the first time out of the blue he started getting significant campaign contributions from the american chemistry council. they also ran this ad supporting him for reelection. it weirdly says at the end that new mexico voters should call
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him to thank him for being so great. brought to you by the american chemistry council. and now it is senator udahl's office that has circulated this draft of the chemical bill that is stamped as having been written by someone at the american chemical council. they told us that the american chemistry council did not draft the bill. they said in the process of communicating with them and other stakeholders and bills, they must have just saved part os of the correspondence and sent that saved document back to senator udahl's office, and it got circulated as his draft of the bill. huh?
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the american chemistry council for their part is also having trouble explaining what happened here. a vice president for the group told the chronicle that it did you want mean the original document was generated here, anyone could have put that digital signature in there. if asking if she was denying that the american chemistry council wrote the document, she said i have no idea. there's no way for anyone to tell. they say we can confidently say that the document was created by a user with the american chemistry council. their name is designated by author. oops we left the lobbyist signature on the bill. it is the kind of laugh out loud moment that doesn't happen all that often in washington. when it does, it is a nice test to find out if washington is still capable of being
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so here, mr. president, catch this. uh-huh. >> that is the new republican chair of the senate environment and public works committee, senator james inhofe of oklahoma. tomorrow, that committee will consider to revamp a bill on toxic chemicals. that legislation is highly contested, including among senate democrats. joining us now is senator barbara boxer. thank you for being here tonight. >> thanks so much for doing the story. >> let many ask you about the specific point that i just made a moment ago about the american chemistry council turning up as the apparent author, at least the microsoft word listed author in somewhat appears to be a draft of the bill circulated ahead of tomorrow's hearing. were you the first people who figured that out? >> well, when the bill came over from the senators, senator udall
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and vitter, there was a copy right there for us, and my staff said to me this reads like it was written by the chemistry council. so we thought, you know, maybe it was. i'm not kidding. and they checked it out, and it was written by the american chemistry council. and this is shocking, and people can run all over it saying it wasn't. we know it was. it's just right there. but more important is just read the bill and you see what it does. it does nothing to protect the people. and it takes a very weak task of law, which now exists, which was so weak it couldn't even ban asbestos, keeps the standard very, very weak to prove, and then it does something else, it stops the states dead in their tracks, because the states had filled a void, and not only my state, but the attorneys general of about nine states and it's growing every day, are saying what are you doing?
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this is dangerous. because this bill, once it became law, which we're going to make sure it doesn't, i pray and i hope and i work so it doesn't become law, basically says to the states, once we look at a chemical, you can't do anything about it. so nobody would be protected, because what i wanted to tell you, your report was right on target. i take issue with one thing, there is no deadline to ban any chemical or regulate any chemical. there is a deadline to study and complete a study in seven years of just 25 of 80,000 chemicals, over seven years. no deadlines to take action. so there's nothing here. it is 450 different health organizations, development organizations that goes on, nurses, doctors, they all say this is worse than current law, rachel. >> there are some democrats who are supporting this legislation.
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senator udall most notably on this. you do have this dispute with him tonight. he's denying the allegations about the authorship. but if i think of republicans supporting this and democrats dividing this, do you believe the white house would sign this bill if it passed the senate? >> i don't see that happening, because this president understands environmental injustice. and it's hit so many communities where you have these terrible things like chromium 6 and benzine and all these things laying around. this president was the lead on regulating lead. but here's the point, i do hope, some of my colleagues jumped on the spill, and i understand why. they gave it a beautiful name. it's named after my beloved colleague, frank lautenberg. people jumped on it thinking it was fine. it has a beautiful name. but it is a very ugly bill. and it is not going to help
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anybody. so i think when they see that the chemistry council wrote the bill, that 450 groups, including the asbestos group, the breast cancer group, and i could go on with, you know, so long. i have them at the hearing tomorrow. all the groups that oppose it. it's unprecedented. i think maybe my colleagues will rethink it. look, the bill is a udall-vitter-inhofe bill. i want to tell you something, rachel, the rating of vitter by environmental groups is 5%. he votes against the environment 95% of the time. the rating of jim inhofe is 5%. i guess they were good 5% of the time. so the bottom line here is, this is a bad bill, written by the chemistry council. it is a weak bill, and it pre-empts state action. it's very, very dangerous. it's very, very serious, and
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