we gyp with breaking news -- begin with breaking news on "the cycle". phoenix pliz is reporting that in mesa six people were shot and one is killed. we're going to listen into police now. >> this morning's tragic incident, i just want the public to know and rest assured that the mesa police department is using all of its resources as we look for this suspect. this is not just mesa police department, this is all of the regional partners. we have help from arizonadps gilbert p.d. and we have all of the resources available to us as we look for the suspect and want to commend our officers and men and women of the mesa police department. this is what we train for, this

is what we're at our best and we will find this suspect. public safety obviously is the number one thing and a sure you that we are -- we're going to work diligently to capture this suspect. also want to ask for the help of the community. thank the media. we need the eyes and ears of everybody out there until we resolve this situation. detective flores will get into some more of the details and we'll give you more later. >> are you looking for ryan gireaux? >> we have not released the name yet. we're still looking at confirming the suspect. and i'll let detective flores answer the specifics. >> good afternoon. detective stephan flores with the mesa police department. as the chief meza said we're still looking for the suspect. let me give you information on what happened this morning. at about 8:40 a.m. we received

emergency calls of a shooting here at the tri-city motel at 1504 west main street. shortly after that we received another call from the e-vet school off site restaurant which is actually called the bistro 13 right across the street. east valley institute of technology, one of the students was shot there as well and ran across the street to receive attention from the paramedics arriving at the first incident shooting. at the first shooting we had three victims. one confirmed deceased two female victims that were transported to a hospital and one male victim who died at the scene. the second -- or the third victim which was at the bistro restaurant who was a student is an adult who ran across the street he was transported to the hospital and he is going to survive as well. and after that we began to

receive information of additional shootings. after a carjacking attempt at the bistro restaurant, and we did have a vehicle description given out and it was a gray honda accord which was carjacked at the bistro restaurant from one of the teachers at the scene. the suspect fled in that vehicle to an area around 900 south dobson, an apartment complex where a home invasion took place. during that home invasion attempt, another victim was shot by the same suspect. that person is going to survive and it was a male victim at that location. once we received that call and that information we received another call where there was some radio traffic from another victim at 1800 west alameda which is another apartment complex next to the first one,

another victim there who was shot and in critical condition and that is a male as well. so far total we have six victims, one of them is deceased. at this time our tactical units along with our other agency partners are assisting us in the manhunt. we do have a suspect description. we cannot confirm the identity. we've had a bunch of different different -- a bunch of different information come in that we still need to follow up on the information before we can confirm the identity of the suspect. he is a white male in his late 30s, early 40s. bald head and he does have tattoos on his neck and also on his face. the last time we gave the information of a gray shirt, black pants or shorts we have confirmed it is black shirt and black shorts at this time. but just remember he could change his clothing at any time. but we are seeking the help of the public at this time to assist us in searching for this

suspect. if they see someone matching this description to please contact 911 immediately. and we will have those tactical units in the area as soon as we can. >> motive? >> we have information from mesa patrolman, are you looking for ryan gireaux? >> i cannot confirm that information that time. >> do you have an idea of a motive at this time? >> we don't have a motive. we know there was some type of argument at the first location of the motel but we don't know the motive. >> was the shooting outside or inside of the motel? >> we believe it was inside of the motel, inside one of the rooms first and then continued to shoot out side. >> was the motel the first scene or was it the bistro? >> it was the motel and then over to the bistro where the carjacking happened and then shot another victim. >> was this a family member that said this had been going on for a few days? can you elaborate? >> i can't elaborate. i don't have any information. >> so the shoots are random and

related to the first crime. >> yes. >> [ inaudible ]. >> as soon as we can confirm the identity of the suspect we will give that information out. if we can give a photo at that time, that would be great so people can know what he looks like. >> if you live in this area and you hear about that i would be concerned, what do you have to say? >> we'll continue to watch for developments in that manhunt and bring them to you here. we want to turn to the big story of the day, benjamin netanyahu has won re-election but will that mean losses for obama here at home. and his focus is on building a new government and that means 60 parliament seats and he won 30 in last night's election, more than any other party and now he needs to work with other parties to build the majority coalition. his center left opposition won 24 seats yesterday. many are crediting his win to

closing argument that could have big implications for u.s. foreign policy and goals that he had supported, for example, a potential palestinian state which is a bedrock policy backed by republican presidents but he made a change and promised conservatives there would be no plastan state on his watch and -- palestinian state and he said there was a poll to motivate conservatives. and the two big questions today, will his majority impact his foreign policy here and how does his conservative closing argument impact our priorities here in the u.s. we'll start with the race itself. our correspondent geraint vincent is in tel aviv. when we look at exit polls that had him trailing those liberal challengers in the zion istist party so why do you think he won?

>> reporter: well all of the polls an predictions were based on the theory that the economy was the main issue in this election. certainly netanyahu's main challenger tried to make it the main issue in the campaign but it is a permanent fact about israel that it exists in a tough neighborhood surrounded by threats and people have or find as much cause to worry about their personal safety as they do about the pocket book and it was his pitch that he is the only leader capable and committed to israel israel and he went to the nuclear iran threat and the threat of isis over the border in syria and toward the end he focused on the threat about the palestinians, not just in the occupied territories but in israel itself. but it was widely dismissed at the time here in israel as the

politics of fear but for bibi it worked and he had enough voters to deliver him this stunning victory. >> jerain vincent in tel aviv reporting. thank you. we head to capitol hill where peter welch joins us. good day to you. >> good day. >> let me start with the big change in policy and now disagreeing with bipartisan u.s. policy on the hope for some kind of palestinian state. i asked george mitchell who was of course senate majority leader and president obama's special middle east envoy about this last night. take a listen to what he said. >> i think he had to do it to win in his mind. the fact that he did it on the last day suggests that he probably would have preferred to win without it. but felt it was necessary. it is very painful for me because when i was in the region, i met with the leaders of nearly 20 arab countries and almost without exception they

did not believe his statement when he made it in 2009. >> it is striking there, of course former senator mitchell has worked on both sides of that conflict. and he said that bibi netanyahu may not have wanted to close with this and it was desperate but how will it be viewed by you and your colleagues now it is a full break with a two-state break. >> it is a big problem. the bed rom principal and the bedroom hope of the arab community and the united states there was a path way to a two-state solution and he's renounced that and he did what he felt he did to win according to senator mitchell and he is a tactically tough politician but he denounced the arab citizens of that vibrant community and he promised more settlements which

is an impediment to a two-state solution and announced no two-state solution and that is an impediment to the community and not just the united states. he won the election but may have created a longer term problem. >> and let's dig deeper into that, congressman. a lot believe that is critical to getting security for israel. clearly netanyahu is disagreeing with that. do you think that israel is better off with a two-state solution off the table? >> no. i don't. and keep in mind by the way, netanyahu got 30 seats out of 120 knesset so he got about a quarter of the votes. so there is enormous division within israel. but if you have a one-state solution that does mean the west bank is going to be occupied totally byize raelg and there is -- israel and there are a lot of folks in israel who thinks there is a right way to go but a

lot of folks think there is a two-state solution solution and they weren't constantly involved in this fight with the -- the west bank. so it is hard to see what the path forward is because the whole peace process has been organized around reaching for that two-state solution and doing it in a way that provided solid security for israel. >> it seems d.c. is the biggest loser in all of this. netanyahu is now in for the long haul. and as you know the relationship between netanyahu and president obama is not a good one. as if it couldn't be any worse and now they have to work together for the next two years. are you concerned about that relationship going forward, especially when it comes to dealing with something like iran with a deal just two weeks away? >> well i'm concerned about the relationship in so far as it affects our policies. politicians disagree and we have to accept the verdict of the voters so the president will have to work with netanyahu and netanyahu will have to work with

the president but the policy ises that i think will be -- the policies that i think will have to be a challengech this is a solid break from the israeli tradition of suppose pourting a two-state solution solution -- of supporting a two-state solution. and then ratcheting up the settlements in the west bank that have always been controversial i think will further intensify the distrust. so it is the policies that he's embraced that are, to my mind, much more of a challenge than whatever the personality clash is between the two leaders, congressman peter welch, thank you very much. and turning to more breaking news, night has fallen in tunisia but there is no letting up on a massive manhunt for the suspect or suspects in the terror attack that left nearly two dozen people dead mostly tourists visiting a museum. joining us on a phone from the scene, we were going to talk to smup on the scene. i think we've lost the phone call. we will -- we will stay on the

story and bring it to you as we can. i i want to go to president obama speaking in cleveland on middle class economics. this is one day after house republicans unveiled their ten-year budget plan. let's listen right into the president. >> and at a time of new and evolving threats overseas the republican budget despite all of the talk they have about national security would actually cut our national securitying funding to the lowest in a dick aid and still those at the top aren't asked to sacrifice a single dime. so lower taxes for the most well off, higher taxes for working families. gutted investments in education, job training and infrastructure military and our national security.

kicking tens of millions of americans off their health insurance, ending medicare as we know it. if you have heard these kinds of arguments about this kind of budget before that is because you have seen this kind of budget before. republicans in congress have put forward the same proposals year after year after year regardless of the realities of the economy. when the economy is in a slump, we need tax cuts. when the economy is doing well you know what let's try some tax cuts. we know now that the gloom and doom predictions that justified this budget three, four five years ago were wrong. despite the economic progress despite the mounds of new evidence, their approach hasn't changed. there is nothing wrong with changing your opinion if the underlying facts change.

serious economic proposals change when the underlying assumptions are proven false. if republicans believe we should adhere to a set of abstract principals even though they hurt the middle class, then they should make the case. show us and prove it to us. if they believe it is time to end the social contract that sustains so many of us the basic bargain of shared sacrifice, own it and make the argument. but you can credibly claim this vision is about helping working families get ahead or this budget is a path to prosperity it is the same argument i'm having about health care it. was one thing to argue against obama care before it was put in place. every prediction about this made about it turned out to be wrong. so it is working better than even i expected. [ applause ] >> but it doesn't matter. >> you've been listening to president obama speaking at a

town hall event there in cleveland. and arguing that the results and the facts support his economic policies and not the new ten-year budget the republicans have introduced. for more on this dan gross, executive editor for strategy and business and columnist for slate. good day to you. >> good to be here. >> you heard the president. what do you make of his view that he says is factual that the facts and stats and economic realities such as they are don't support the republican proposals in this budget or the notion of endless tax cuts? >> well look i think the last several years have proven that doing stimulus and continuing to support the economy threw very low -- through very low interest rates are very orthodox but got criticized because the republicans criticize every one of them, have worked. we've had five years of growth and 11 million jobs and in a situation where the fed is beginning to talk about raising interest rates whereas europe is

now doing quantitative easing to try to try to -- to battle the depression. whether it is quantitative numbers or the deficit itself gone from 1.4 trillion to 1.5 annually and the course we're on is good and that has included tax increases on people making a lot of money and it has included health care reform which included tax increases and it included a tax increase on payroll. so despite everything that was done, the economy is doing quite well. >> dan i know you're going to be really shocked to learn this but in the republicans' new budget they call for full repeal of obama care. >> no. >> i'll give you a minute to let that soak in. according to experts, in addition to repealing obama care and the medicaid cuts they have in this budget 37 million people would lose health insurance. this seems like a major issue for republicans going forward

and in particular thinking about some of their 2016 candidates how do they square the circle of appeasing the base by saying of course we're going to repeal obama care but not having a full solution to offer the 37 million people who could be potentially losing their coverage? >> well this is the politics we've seen in the last several years only month so because now that obama care has sort of clicked in almost fully, there are an additional 10 or 15 million people and including what we're seeing is this phenomenon states controlled by republicans coming around and saying people using the exchanges but we're doing medicaid expansion because the hospitals and the medical professionals in our states and our cities where it is one-sixth of the economy, they are realizing it is a good deal for them and for them not to be included is quite a bad deal. so if you -- if you look at the governors who are not running for presidential election republican governors, they would

be quite upset if all of obama care would be repealed because it would mean a vacuuming of money for medicaid and a loss of insurance for millions of people in their states that -- and they would be looking to the governor to say how could you fix this. >> dan, this gop budget eliminated obama care and cuts food stamps and welfare, slashing the safety net once again hear being that. would this help the middle class? >> probably not. and i think it is best seen -- it is not just a return to the budget politics of three or four years ago or even to the contract with america, we're still having this argument for some reason about the new deal and the great society. because buried in there, there is also stuff about changing social security changing disability, not fully making their peace with medicare. to a large degree the republicans in congress are

still -- they still have a real bee in their bonnet about what fdr did in the 1930s and what lbj did in the 1960s, things that turned out to be incredibly important and incredibly popular. >> that bee is old enough to get social security that is how old that bee is in the bonnet but that might get cut. >> but he is right. and paul writes about this we are still nighting the battle over -- still fighting the battle over the new deal. >> and you crack yourself up. >> he is dying. take two. >> go ahead, abby. >> it is a similar message six years into his presidency that we've heard from him. he spends a lot of time talking about republicans hitting on them for cutting taxes and talking about the improved economy under his administration which rightfully so the economy is doing better. but it is the very people he's talking to the middle class not feeling this and still very much struggling and as we lead into

2016 this is sort of the debate amongst the candidates of who can have the right message for the middle class. when they hear the president speaking, is it resonating to them or are they feeling like they haven't felt the effects and ready for a new message and ideas? >> here is the tricky thing about this. he can talk about the minimum wage which does something for those at the very bottom and doesn't do anything for the people in the middle. the reality is wages for americans and i'm talking about professionals and not just people who work at fast food joints have not been rising. we have the stock market more than double and corporate profits that have done reparkablely -- remarkably well but the shaflds are keeping -- the shareholders are keeping the gains for themselves and there is not a whole lot the government can do about it. it has to do with norms an the pressures the companies are under and we're seeing the dam begin to break with walmart imposing its own minimum wage. >> and dan, as we've seen union

policies and government policy that is something the government can do to influence the policy and that is where we've seen the stagnation in wages so to say the government can't do anything about it i think the evidence doesn't support you on that. >> well look private sector unions let's be honest are a largely thing of the past. it is something like 6% of the private sector work force belongs to -- i believe it is that low. the auto industry is getting stronger in the south which is hostile to unions. i think the idea that if the government were to come out and make union elections easier oren force the regulation surrounding unions that would encourage unionization and wages to go up i don't think that is particularly good strategy. and the weakness of labor is the cause of the problem. and the issue again is companies

for a variety of reasons, ceo's do not feel and have not felt they should raise wages, even as their profits soar. >> dan gross, thank you so much for being with us bearing with us. bees and all. we appreciate it. up next compelling forensic testimony in the boston bombing trial. we go there live for the latest. >> and plus the u.s. vet charged with trying to join isis makes his first court appearance. ari was in the courtroom and tells us house it went down. and still ahead at the table, josh mcdermott star of walking dead. well this isn't the cycle. we cycle on. ears optical, we're committed to bringing them eyewear that works as hard as they do. right now, buy one pair and get another free. ♪ nice! gr-reat! a shot like that... calls for a post-game celebration. share what you love with who you love.

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and we go to boston for an update on the marathon bombing trial which is now in the ninth day. ron mott remains there for us. ron, what did jurors here today? >> reporter: hi, there, ari. good afternoon. we're in an afternoon recess here. there is a state crime lab

technician testifying by the name of jennifer montgomery and the state has done all day to continue to connect the dots to tie dzokhar tsarnaev and his brothers to the crimes to the boston marathon. and she just testified about blood found on gloves in a green honda, the car that both of the brothers were riding in before they carjacked a gentleman in cambridge and that led into a police shootout in watertown. but there was blood on the glove. the technician testified she was responsible for testifying the glove and it was the blood of the m.i.t. officer. and they were going to talk about evidence found in the home they shared or the dorm they shared and at this hour it looks like they may have to wait until tomorrow to introduce that. but a far different day than

yesterday with testimony about the gun used to kill the officer collier and the evidence involving the shootout and all of the bullet holes in the boat from yesterday. so a dramatically different and more technically day today. day ten starting tomorrow. >> ron mott from boston. thank you. prosecutors move forward with another terror case charging a former air force mechanic with trying to join isis. pugh entered the courtroom with blue sneakers and bathe tans and heard the charges read aloud and pled not guilty. he was stopped at the syrian border where it was alleged he was trying to join isis and sent back to the u.s. where he was arrested. it is a growing problem, westerners trying to join isis. >> another westerner trying to

join isis and this time a veteran. an air force veteran and a u.s. citizen whose last known residence is in neptune, new jersey. on monday he was indicted for trying to join isis. he is charged with providing material support to the terror group and with destroying digital evidence of his interest in isis. he could face 35 years in prison if convicted. >> and this case could move quickly. i was at this morning's arraignment for msnbc and the judge said he wanted a trial this summer and that is a faster pace that many terror cases we've seen. and joining us now douglas oliphant. good day to you. >> good afternoon. >> one thing we see here this suspect is a little different than some of the other sympathizers arrested recently in that he seemed very ready to join out in the field of battle trying to get up to the border and he was a veteran. what do you make of it? >> well i think it is interesting to see as the trial unfolds just how competent.

as your tag line is he a wannabe or could he get there. did he show up with a sign around his neck saying i want to join sis or is this something comeplicated and it is interesting to untangle this. >> and we are up to 20 americans trying to join isis we've been able to catch beforehand and who knows who have succeeded before doing that and this case is different. he served in the military and in the air force. but that was a number of years ago. >> a long time ago. >> a long time ago. so is there a concern there could be folks in action now that have access to intelligence and information that could be helpful to isis those that would go and join them? >> certainly anything is possible. and i suspect we're getting essentially a random spattering of these people.

this gentleman was in the air force in the late 80s and i believe he left the air force in 1990 and got radicalized sometime in the mid-90s and right after 9/11 was sympathizing with osama bin laden. he's had these sympathies for sometime and he's been in the middle east and working for this and it will be interesting to see exactly how much we can pull and what trends he represents and how much of this is a one-off. >> and what abby refers to is the red flag in this situation, is that he is a military veteran and not just for the symbolism for that which is powerful for isis and he was an aveionic instrument specialist in the air force and a long time airplane

mechanic. and how valuable could this sort of person be to isis? >> um i'm not an aviator and i don't fly airplanes but off-hand my gut said that anything that was important in 1990 isis can probably know about if they want to. so probably not. it sounds like this is a guy who mostly turned wrenches fixing airplane engines. i'm not sure he had special skill useful to isis. you do bring up a useful point, there could be people who do have these skills who could move forward, a isis version of a chelsea manning say og something like that. so that is certainly a possibility out there but it doesn't look like one of those cases. >> indeed. i want to get your thoughts doug, on another item that a hacker collective anonymous is stepping up efforts to identify twitter handles associated with isis so twitter can go and shut those accounts down which raised

an interesting question for me. on the one hand you don't want people spreading inging propaganda online and isis has been successful at that and on the other hand having these open on twitter that is an aid to track those conversations and where do you come down on how helpful that is. >> that is a judgment call in dealing with intelligence how much do you leave something out there that is not good for you but which you can monitor and talk to and see who the associates are and take down bigger fish or just pull them off. and my concern with anonymous is they don't have the sophistication to know when those calls should be made and it could take down twitter handles that someone is monitoring for some type of purpose. >> doug, thank you so much. up next crime fighting in the age of body cameras, popular mechanics takes a different look at the future of high-tech policing.

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welcome back. police body cameras have become a hot topic of debate since the tragic events in ferguson missouri. over 1,000 police departments across the country now have them. and just yesterday a veteran las vegas officer was suspended after a body camera showed he injured a woman he arrested for littering and loitering. the technology revolution is no doubt changing crime fighting but what is it like to wear a body camera and how do they work and are some better than others. popular mechanics takes a close look at it police in a pan optic age and with us popular mechanics. thank you for being with us. you are a step ahead. as i said it is a controversial topic. and you write about the largest police department that looked at this and the takeaway from them was it helps out everyone

involved. not everyone agrees with that but what are the takeaways and why did they say that. >> it seems that everybody is surprised, they've been using this since 2010 and so -- and they are on the second phase of cameras and so they are at the forefront of understanding how it seems to be the unanimous opinion that they benefit everybody by not only having this hard evidence for everything that happens, but also for police who will potentially be in a situation where it is word against word and then they have this evidence with them at all times. >> in a lot of ways they have made a difference a lot of folks say the evidence shows they do make a difference and so the complaints coming down where they are employed but there must be limitations where you are seeing what the police officer sees in the impact of his agency rather than what he or she is doing and police officers are saying that this sort of information -- this sort of dynamic is in because they are being video taped by cell phones

an foeps all over-- and iphones all over the place. what are the implications of this technology? >> a majority are affixed to the lapel or the front. so if the officer can't see what they are seeing. so one company taser, who you might know for their taser, electrical shock they are coming out with one that will be able to -- it will be small enough to fit on classes or a -- or glasses or a hat for a firsthand perspective. >> but the police officers will have full control of the video. so if something happens they don't like they can just not release it. >> that is what i thought. but it turns out with the services, it is impossible for the officers to delete the footage or doctor it and that makes it unusual because in the 90s, they had dash cams on cop cars and entire tv shows dedicated to the footage but they are connected in ways that people can access it remotely. so they have the footage and go

back to the squad car and it gets up loaded right away. so there is no way to doctor with it. and that is what is really what is changing. and it is the same thing driving snap chat and icloud. >> talk about the choice to do a photo essay rather than a longer written article. i thought it was a fascinating decision. >> the things you see about this topic is footage of what the police are seeing or what is being recorded by them which i was surprised to find out these are used as public record now. so this footage is widely available and you'll see faces blurred out and that kind of thing but that is the perspective you are used to. but with this we are thinking about what your interactions with police officers are like. you are seeing them like that. and so what you are doing is you're getting this perspective of these are the tools that they are using and you can really see familiar items like the baton or the gun holster but this is new

and part of -- >> what are the police officers saying -- you were saying how it is changing the way they do their job. so in the article you've had conversations with police officers. what are they saying about it? >> that generally the thing -- all of them were saying they've adopted it pretty seamlessly. one of them said within two weeks -- there is no for getting to turn it on. it made the interfaces so easy to use. you tap it once and it starts recording and it's become part of their uniform. >> and can i ask, is there a concern that technology gets so advanced that it picks up something the cop doesn't see and there is back and forth what i saw versus what the machine saw or the camera saw? >> absolutely. that was one of the things that surprised me too. you think you would want as clear of a picture as possible but one -- the commanding officers that we talked to said if you have something like night vision, that is kind of saying it is giving you something that maybe the officer himself didn't see. so to have that clarified and --

it might make him culpable in ways he might not want to be. >> and you say this is uploaded and the officers can't impact or delete but it is up loaded to a server where, at the police department? right? so the commanding officers have control of who gets to see the footage? >> that is right. and that is why this is such an interesting and early section of this because it is -- this is what happens with all of the technology. the actual technology itself outpaces legal, procedural and administrative all of those parts of it. so we are at a point where we have to figure out what happens with that and what is admissible in court and all of those questions. >> and you spoke to police officers at three different very -- very different departments at ferguson oakland and east haven, connect and was the perspective different across the country? >> they generally have the same reaction this is very

comfortable to us. >> even though oakland has experience and ferguson new. >> and the guys that were using it longer were more comfortable with it but the perspective from all of them is the same. >> so no cop told you, i don't like this i'm not comfortable with this? >> toure is convinced somebody is against them? >> somebody must not like this. did anybody give you the counter opinion. >> publicly they might not have said this. but this is so fascinating because we're at such a crazy point with video and i was down in austin texas for this thing called south by southwest which is a technology convention and there was an exchange at a table next to me that somebody didn't want somebody with go google glass to cord -- to record him. >> you don't know you are being recorded. >> what is that like? >> it is such a timely piece so

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one of the hottest shows on tv is also one of the scariest. amc's "the walking dead." >> that sister is a fact. that is as cold and hard as they come. >> gosh you really that much of a coward? >> yes. i am. i told you i was. >> most of the humans in the post apommo liptic world behave admirally and looking out for the greater good of humanity and then there is dr. eugene porter. he is a coward. he lies to the group and changes their course and worst of all, he sports a mullet. and so if the zombie apocalypse were here i'm sure abby would be here too. welcome in. >> thanks for having me. >> and josh is not eugene.

>> no. >> and eugene is not josh. but i would like to speak to eugene. >> what do you want to know? >> why have you been such a cowardmoment. >> what do you want to know? >> why have you been such a coward in the past? >> i can't trust you. >> this is hilarious. >> humanity needs to stick together. you lied to everybody and that took them on a certain course. why did you lie to everybody? >> i did what i had to do so survive myself and i brought us all to washington, d.c. >> you're still smiling. >> that was good. >> it's funny when people met me in person. we expected you to be socially awkward and weird. >> do people assume that you are like your character in some

respect? >> i think people do that with everybody. even i do it when i watch different shows. >> you get emotionally connected to the character. >> absolutely. when you see a jason statham movie, i believe he's that much of a bad-ass. you're not as weird. what's going on with you? it's a lot of fun. >> i want to comic con this year. >> you did? >> new york. oh, my gosh. you have a fan base. >> the whole show does. >> you do too, but it is un unbelievable the excitement out there. this is the number one rated show ever. it is absolutely insane. there are other zombie shows out there. whoo what is it about this particular show? >> the show doesn't focus on the zombies. it is a threat in the background

with the lives that they're living but the show is so much more than that. it is about the human element. i could kill you to take your can of corn. it's about the relationship that the humans have. the biggest threat is the humans, not the zombies. >> it is indeed. but this threat of zombies is this constant wave. we could have a conversation about survival and then this zombie comes up. the zombies move so slowly. >> i know. it is not like "world war z" zombies. the zombies on "the walking dead" are moving so slow. you can get overrun. they like to travel in herds and packs. >> it can get dangerous. >> they'll have 150 extras out there dressed in the zombie

makeup. this could be a problem if the apocalypse every went down. >> because it is a zombie show people are periodically killed off. >> yes. >> do you mourn their show death when they have to move on? >> absolutely. it is really sad because this show more than anything i've ever been a part of we're very much a tight family unit. i know it is cliche to say, but it is so true with this show. i got to know chad coleman who played tyrese. i didn't think they were going to kill him off that season. the next week they say he's going to get killed off. oh, my gosh. this is a guy that i have bonded with. i think they try to give you as much heads up as they can, but the story lines do change. this story of noah we just killed off in the last episode, he was supposed to be around for

a couple of episodes but they expanded his role. they don't want to tell you until they're definitely sure. >> it's your time. josh, you're an interesting guy. i read up about you before the interview. >> uh-oh. >> a couple of things stood out. of course i did. you are a kmeedcomedian and that's what you used to do, but you're also a hot air balloon pilot. i have never met someone that actually does that. it is so interesting. >> my dad got a balloon ride when he was a kid. not a kid, when i was a kid for his birthday from my mom. he loved it so much he went out and bought a hot air balloon. it cost as much as a used car. >> go on. >> our family just grew up having a hot air balloon. where i grew up they had balloon companies that took tourists around. >> you have to get a license.

>> yes. >> this is the best job you've ever had. are you still pinching yourself? >> i'm still pinching myself. i was a huge fan of the show before i even came on. >> it is amazing to be a fan of the show and then get to be on it. >> i wish you came with the mull et mullet. >> it's a baby one. >> congratulations on the show. thank you for being here. really appreciate it. eugene has got that mullet but that cannot compare with the hair raising high jinks at one school. we'll explain next. for pearlescent, luminous skin. from the world's #1 olay your best beautiful just stay calm and move as quietly as possible. no sudden movements. google search: bodega beach house.

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with "walking dead" star josh mcdermott. while we have all had bad hair days except for krystal the students and staff at one school in ireland had a mad hair day all for a good cause. kids and teachers and the principal donned wild styles to make one student who is undergoing cancer treatment feel more comfortable. they greeted her with cheers and by day's end raised $4,000 for the hospital. what a nice story to end on there. >> that's the sweetest thing. >> thanks for watching. have a great day. president obama launches a full court press. donald trump plots a 2016 campaign. and police raid robert durst's

apartment in houston. a terrorist attack in tunisia leaves more than 20 dead. a barbaric attack at a museum in tunisia has left at least 21 people dead today, including two gunmen killed in a firefight. they attacked tourists as they disembarked buses at midday. those who tried to take shelter in the museum were hunted down by the terrorists. more than 20 others were wounded. the tu -- tourists who were part of a cruise were among those who came under attack. a huge cruise ship with more than 3,000 passengers was docked in tunis this morning.