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he says, it's almost a foolproof plan. fur interested, you can could do this with me and you can get $5,000. all of a sudden i start to feel, something's wrong. i'm freaking high right now and i'm going to go through security in nepal. i was becoming an international drug smuggler. only it doesn't last forever. you have no idea what's going on. >> let go of me. >> there are guards with guns everywhere.
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they are going to pull me aside, and that's it, educational background of the road, this is it for me. what am i going to do now? i grew up in los angeles, california. my parents raised me kinds of unconventionally. they were more of the hippie generation. there was a lot of freedom, and not a lot of discipline. you really didn't know when you were going to have dinner, you know, what time you were going to go to bed that night. so we had to fend for ourselves. there were definitely times they weren't there for us because they were high. it reeked a lot of havoc on us as children.
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what i really craved was that sense of stability that you get from being directed by your parents, someone who could help me be a better person and know what my choices are for the future. and there just really wasn't any of that in my life. when i was 21 years old, my luck changed. i was offered a job through a friend at a nightclub in beverly hills. so i'm working in the nightclub. >> so jackie -- it is jackie, right. >> and a girl who worked with me asked if i would be interested in going to japan. >> to work as a hostess in a karaoke bar. >> i was like, wow, wow are you serious. >> yeah. >> i always wanted to travel abroad. i didn't know this girl very well. if i did make this decision and commit to this i'm really taking a leap of faith and putting myself out there.
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but at the same time the feelings i was having at home were stark and some better and i was so depressed and i needed -- i needed something. i thought about it. and decided, i'm going to go for this. i'm going to do it. this sounds good. right after, that it all happened very quickly. within two weeks of me making the decision to go, i was actually getting on a plane to japan. >> my first impression of japan was it was cold and kind of dark. it was very different from anything i had ever seen.
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the japanese people were mysterious. i started work the first night i get there. >> drinks? >> we would mix their drinks for them, light their cigarettes, and be an ear to listen to. you know, you didn't quite know what they were thinking. it took quite a while for me to fit into that and feel comfortable. i get off work one night, and i'm walking down the street headed home. and these two israeli guys are selling imitation bags and wallets on the streets. and they are like hey, how. and they introduce themselves,
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ronnie, yoram. >> come sit down here. >> we talked for what seemed like two hours sitting on lawn chairs on the street will. >> i love to karaoke. >> so we became fast friends. i just felt really, really comfortable. so i'm sitting there one day, and yoram and i are talking. and he says. >> hey jackie. >> how would you like to go to nepal with me, how great would that be. wow, yeah, that sounds like a great trip. and he says also, by the way. >> i am going to be bringing back some hash. >> and i'm like, wow, smuggling hash. you are bringing back hash? >>yeah. >> i mean, isn't it dangerous?
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he says, yeah, yeah, of course, but he says, you know, we swallow it. >> it's in your tummy. it's impossible to be caught. >> it's almost a pool proof plan. he says if you're interested, you can do this with me and you can get $5,000. >> interested? >> you know, i'm thinking this over in my head. but i really don't think that i could do something like this. >> okay. okay. i tell you what. we go away. we go on holiday, and then -- >> he says, look, you can come with me and you can decide later but enjoy myself on the meantime on a vacation. so i thought okay. >> yeah? >> i'll do this. little did i know that the journey was going to change my life forever.
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when we arrived in nepal it was awesome, completely different from japan. it was so colorful. thing i had never seen b. there is a million things going on. there were cows roaming in the streets. i had the time of my life. it was great. this trip made me feel like i needed to get out there. i needed to see the rest of the world. it was really exciting. we had been in the hotel for about a week. and yoram comes up and he has picked up his stash. >> look what i just found. >> and he says, hey, jackie. >> why don't you try. >> and swallow a pellet of this hash and see how it feels. >> see how it feels. >> i really had to think it through.
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i mean, i guess i could try one. >> okay. >> okay. >> he takes a softball of hash, rolls it in his hand. he takes is a ran wrap and he wrapped it and sealed the end with a lighter so it would close off air getting in it or anything coming out. i put my head back -- i was sitting there and i grab another sip of water to wash it down. it comes right back up. this is really difficult to do. so i give it another try. i'm able to get it down. >> okay? >> i was thinking, maybe i could do this. >> so what do you say? hmmm?
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>> yoram assured me the only way of getting caught is perhaps getting sick, but it never happens, really. and i would have a lot of extra money and i could, you know, travel a little bit more. so i thought, okay -- i'll do this -- i'm in. >> okay. >> so when went to get the drugs. we go to the edge of town. and he says, okay, just keep it cool and follow my lead. what i didn't know was that this was going to become my biggest nightmare. y. their customer experience is virtually paperless, which saves paper, which saves money. they have smart online tools, so you only pay for what's right for you, which saves money.
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we go to the edge of town. he's taking me in to meet the dealer. there is this woman sitting behind this wood table, and there's two guys standing in the corners. i'm really nervous. you have no idea what's going on. i'm looking behind me. i can still feel it right now. it was scary. >> jackie, this is mama san. we would like half a kilo. >> so we give mama san the order. she leaves the room. kind of freaked out with these guys in the corners, not knowing whether they are going to pull a gun out or not. she comes back in, yoram hands her the money. and i'm buying a half a kilo for
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$125, which is, like, unheard of, and unbelievable. i'm standing to make $5,000. once we got back to the hotel, we had 24 hours to wrap the drugs and to get on the plane. just grueling hours of wrapping. it's just one pellet after the other. burning my fingers with the lighter. you know, this work is ridiculous. finally, yoram and i are ready to swallow. we have five hours before we need to get on the plane. it was a really intense process. i kept throwing them up. and when i'd throw them up i'd have to go into the bathroom and
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wash them off and try and reswallow them again. and i'm like, oh, this is terrible. why am i doing this? it was disgusting. eating one pellet was easy. but eating hundreds of them was nearly impossible. i was able to swallow about 350 grams. i couldn't do it any longer after that. >> okay. >> so yoram and i got to the airport, and we decided to split up. if one of us got caught, we didn't want the other one to get caught. i was scared to death. there are guards with guns everywhere. i'm completely on edge.
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i'm just looking straight at the guard, and i just want to get through the security check. handle yourself, jackie, stay under control. don't mess up. all of a sudden, i started to feel -- something's wrong. i started to feel light-headed. and i'm like, what the hell is this? and before i know it, i feel like i'm stoned. at that point, i realize that in wrapping those pellets, i had never washed my hands in between. i had never taken care of the hash oil that was on my hands from rolling them into pellets. i couldn't believe it. i thought, how stupid, i'm high. i'm freaking high right now and i'm going to go through security in nepal.
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i can see that people are looking at me, and i'm not -- i'm not feeling good at all. i'm starting to sweat. i'm starting to shake. it's almost too much for me. i'm going to pass out. and i know that they can tell i'm high. they have got to be able to see it and if they see that i'm high, there is no way they are going to let me through here. they are going to pull me aside, and that's it, end of the road. this is it for me. some questions can't wait until morning. so i'm one of many nurses at cigna with answers, anytime, day or night. i'm lauren, and i've got your back. you can't breathe through your nose, suddenly, you're a mouth breather. a mouth breather! well, put on a breathe right strip and shut your mouth. cold medicines open your nose over time, but add a breathe right strip and pow, it opens your nose up to 38% more. so you can breathe and do the one thing you want to do,
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so i took a deep breath, and i calmed myself down. and i'm thinking to myself, i'm not going to get caught. okay. so i'm in line for a security check. got to talk myself into being calm. so i get up to the guard, and he asks me. >> where are you going? >> i'm going back to japan and what was your stay in nepal for. and i said, it was purely enjoyment. i had a wonderful time. you have a beautiful country. he said, all right, thank you very much. and i walked through.
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and at that moment, i was like oh, my god. that was one of the most intense moments of my entire life. i'll never forget it. we get on, and now i need to figure out, you know, how i'm going to make it through customs in japan. so i land in tokyo. i walk through the customs door. i'm thinking, once i'm through this, it's over. i got through it. i couldn't believe it. >> bravo. >> i just started laughing. laughing, with a huge smile on my face. because once you are through, you are through.
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i couldn't believe i had made it through all of that and that i was going to be okay. the thrill that you got from going through something like that was amazing. almost like none other. it is a -- it's a super rush. we started coming up with ways that we thought we could do it without swallowing it. >> i've got the best idea. >> okay. >> just had to be in places that when you got patted downings they wouldn't feel it. i realized i could put it in my bra. i wouldn't be frisked there. another place we discovered was under the belt. shoes weren't checked. i realized i could take quite a bit in each shoe. that will work. so we were able to pretty much put a kilo on each one of us. good. it was like a piece of cake.
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and then there was another trip after that that was successful. i was becoming an international drug smuggler. not many people can say that. it's not easy, and you do have to be smart, and you need to be able to take risks. big, big risks. yoram and i had known each other now for eight months. we've had a great relationship from the beginning. we were buddies, like partners in crime. he had my back. i had his. so i was really surprised when yoram betrayed me. yoram and i had just gotten back from our last trip from nepal. and yoram, as usual, would go and take the drugs to the dealer
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and come backed with money. so i waited, as i always do, for him. 24 hours goes by, and i haven't heard anything from him. he comes back. where have you been? i've been waiting forever. >> sorry. i -- i got distracted. >> i gives -- he gives me my money. and it's missing a third of it. this isn't enough. what is this? a third of this is missing. i think he was feeling a little entitled. >> look, i got you into this in the first place. >> and why should i get half of the money for bringing back half of the stuff? i was disgusted at the way he was acting. and hurt. i was really hurt.
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i started an arguments with him. we're supposed to be friends here. i don't understand. this is not right. what are you doing? how can you just turn on me like this? please. i mean, i -- you know i need this money. i need this money. >> okay. okay. okay. okay. i'll go get your money. >> so i thought, all right, you know? i got through to him. so i let him go. but he never came back. and i never heard from him again. i mean, it was really a very sad moment. so now that yoram is out of my life, this big absence and void
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is there in a sense of my travel partner, he's gone. my visa is going to run in and out two months, and i'm just not sure how i'm feeling about going home. i wanted to go back to america in style. i wanted a nice car, and a nice apartment. i thought, if i did this with yoram and we were successful, why don't i just go ahead and make it back for myself? i know the plan. i no where to get it. i know how to smuggle it. i'm thinking, what could go wrong? ♪ ah, push it. ♪ ♪ push it. ♪ p...push it real good! ♪ ♪ ow! ♪ oooh baby baby...baby baby. if you're salt-n-pepa, you tell people to push it. ♪ push it real good. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ ah. push it. i'm pushing. i'm pushing it real good!
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i decided i was going to make one last trip. i met mama san, and this time i was fairly confident. have you got the stuff? i asked for two kilos, which is the most i had ever gotten. i pick it up, and i feel it, and it's like hard. and i'm like, whoa. this isn't the same stuff. this is hard. this is way too hard. >> no, this is good. >> no, it's not good.
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>> see, if the hash is hard, i can't mold it into my shoe. i can't cut it out because it will break apart. i can't use that. what am i supposed to do? you need to get me something good. come on, i need this to happen. you need to make this happen. i'll be back tomorrow. and i stormed out. she knew i meant business, but what am i going to do, really? pull a gun out? so the next day i came back. and she had it. and i was like, a sigh of relief. oh, man, i can't believe this. i was really happy. it is a all calm. it's all good now. it's all good. i take it back to my motel room, i do the shoes.
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i do the belt. but this time, i've got 500 more grams than i usually take on any one trip. this is a bit much. i'm really pushing it. but this is my last trip. this is it. i figure, i'll transfer through japan, and go straight to america. hi. >> hi. >> i get to the airport and get up to the ticket counter to check in, and the lady takes my ticket and gives it back and tells me i have the wrong day. i fly out tomorrow. what do you mean i'm flying out tomorrow. >> that's what your ticket says. >> i just can't believe i have missed everything by a day. i mean, where was my head? i mean, how stupid.
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>> it's for tomorrow, not for today. >> they are looking at me like i'm crazy. but i'm like, look, i've lost a day somewhere. i start getting a little nervous and i start getting a little loud. this is absolutely ridiculous. i don't understand. i'm like, can you arrange a stand by for me. >> i can't do anything. >> i have flown this airline many times. i'm making a commotion. everything is intense. the guards there, they have guns on them. they come over to where i'm standing. i'm like, okay, you know, maybe i better calm down. look, can you at least get a manager for me, please? >> i can try. can you wait for a moment? >> a manager comes out, and he says, come over here to this room and we'll discuss it.
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i'm thinking at this point, i've got two kilos of hash on me. all they have to do is search me, and that's it. i'm done. i'm busted. >> it's wrong day. >> yes, i know. i know i missed my day. i'm sorry. this guy starts questioning me. and right away i know he is not manager. they want to know why i'm there on the wrong day. who misses the day on the flight. didn't you check your ticket? i got it mix up because -- i'm shaking just even talking about it. i've got these two guards standing right over me. i'm sure the next step is going to be frisk, and that's going to be it. i tell them, i have had so much on my mind, i didn't set my clock back so i wasn't on the
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correct time. i'm so nervous at this point. this is a big deal. >> okay. >> he ended up believing me that i had lost the time of day. but i need to keep it straight next time because this kind of stuff is suspicious. so they let me go. so i go to a hotel. whoa, man, i'm still nervous. i'm still reeling because i had never been in that situation before in any of my travels. like, whoa, man, i've got to -- i've got smoke a little bit to calm down. i take my shoe off, and i take a piece out. i roll a joint, and i smoke it.
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and i relax and i'm trying to calm myself down. i really contemplated leaving this behind. i thought, you know, is this worth it? i've almost just gotten myself into big trouble. i'm carrying more now than i ever have. but then i thought again about how much i could make. bringing the stuff back -- i could make $5 more a gram than i was in japan. with two kilos i could stand to make to $30,000 on this trip. $30,000. i decided to continue on and take the risk. so the next day, i get up, and i'm ready to go. i've got a fresh attitude.
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no more mistakes, jackie. i've gone through check in, so i get in line for security. they are patting these people down quite heavily. i've not really seen that before. i'm thinking to myself, my god, really, what am i thinking? i've got to get rid of this. bee line for the bathroom. i untape the two pieces that are there on top of what i usually carry. i can't flush it down the toilet because it could plug it up and get caught. and the blocks are too big so i stuck them in the trash can. and i was on my way. no looking back.
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so it was my turn, and i step up to security. i'm sweating a little bit. i think she can smell this fear on me. she asks me to put my hands up, and she pats me down on the front. she stairs -- stares me straight in the face, and she says, you can go. thank you. oh, my god! i got through it. i couldn't believe it. i was like, dang, you are good, jackie. you know, i wish i hadn't left that 500 grams in the bathroom. i'm not sick. she's perfectly healthy. cigna covers preventive care. that's having your back.
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i arrive in japan at 5:30 in the morning, and it's empty. there's really nobody around. and i need to find the transfer area because i need to catch my next flight. so i'm looking at the signs. i can't really read anything. there isn't a sign that says "transfers." i'm really lost. which way do i go? so i go down one corridor and i'm not sure about that. so i go down another corridor, and i finally see two pilots coming down from the ends. and i'm like -- i'm looking for a transfer flight -- and i don't know which way the transfer area. i don't want to go through customs, i want to go to transfer. and they said oh, transfer. >> transfer that way. >> and they pointed to two double doors at the end of the hall. you know, i didn't really question it. they worked there. they said transfer. i figured we were understanding the same thing.
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so i pushed through these big doors. i walk in. and i realize at that moment i'm in customs. i've got to get out of here. and i turn around, and the doors are just slamming shut. and my heart sings. >> hello? >> what am i going to do now? at this point, i don't have time to be nervous. i have got to go straight up and talk to these guys and see what i can do to go through transfer area. >> hello? walk up to the customs officer, and i said, i've just made my way into customs -- by accident -- two pilots told me that i could come this way to transfer my flight. all i need to do is transfer my pilot. they said, well you are in the customs area now, that means you need to go through customs, can we just please check your bag.
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>> bag, please. >> at that point, i was like, okay, i'm not going to start an argument. i already know where that got me, and that's the last thing i need to do. i regain my composure. sure. he started going through my bag, clothes, my radio. none of this is going to get me in trouble. i'm feeling confident. i've got it on my body. they are not going to pat me down because that's not what they do in customs. so i'm keeping my cool. i'm feeling okay about this. and then he reaches down into the side packet on the bag. and he pulls out a piece of hash
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that i had smoked the night before and i had not put back into my shoes. i knew immediately that i was busted. my heart dropped to the floor. this feeling is like no other feeling. >> what is this? >> chocolate. he immediately put it up, had the inspectors come over. they got the test tube out and took this piece and put it in the test tube. it immediately turned bright red. >> that's good stuff.
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>> i knew that was it. i had all of the stuff on me, and there was no way they weren't going to check me. i couldn't get out of this one. they walked me into the side room and sat me down. and immediately called in all the officers that were on duty. i was in shock and disbelief that this had happened. thinking back, i knew i had screwed up because i got too confident. how stupid could i have been? don't. i knew i could be searched, and i didn't want them touching me. listen, i'm cooperating, okay? >> all right. >> here. i pulled it right out of my bra and set it on the table. and they looked shocked.
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and they were just laughing. they thought it was funny. i was humiliated. you know, really embarrassed. i was taken to the airport jail. there was me and three other girls in there. i didn't think i was going to be able to handle this. i felt really alone. i needed someone who really cared about me to be there, and it was impossible. i was 21 years old. i had the rest of my life ahead of me. i had no idea what was going to
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you couldn't interact with any prisoners. you pretty much kept to yourself. i didn't speak to anyone for what seemed like months and months. we weren't allowed to lean, or sleep, or, you know, even sit back against the wall. this was all forbidden. you basically could sit indian style or in japanese position on your knees, all day long. that was it. they had this guard that walked my the cells every six minutes. i hated her. and she wouldn't leave me alone. she was on me. [ speaking foreign language ] >> every time she passed by, i would look at her and call out her name -- snake! this anger i was feeling inside myself, i took it out on her.
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so i was angry. and one day i completely lost it. i'm in the bathroom, and i'm taking a couple of tubs of water to sam patio my hair. you are allowed three. so i do the first one. i shampoo my hair. take the second one. take a third. and then i go in for a fourth because i haven't got the shampoo out of my here. this guard, the snake, i hear her yell out, no, no, no. you better stop that, now. you know what? just hearing her made me angry. and so i keep going. i have so much rage inside me i'm so upset. i can't take someone yelling at me one more tight. i just can't take it. i keep going and keep putting the pales on my head. and she's screaming louder and more intense.
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no, no, you can't do that. no. and i just kept doing, and she kept yelling. finally she grabs me by the arm and pulls me back. and i just got up in a rage. i said let go of me. let go of me. i started beating my head on the wall. i started beating my hands and my head on the wall, and i just started screaming and screaming. it was so intense. i have never felt something so intense in my whole life. the rage i was feeling from the system, from being told what to do every minute of every day -- let go of me. they were breaking me down. they were trying to break me down. they put me in solitary confinement for two weeks.
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and i remember looking into this black dot that was on the wall. i would disappear into that hole and kinds of come back and not know where i had gone. and for me, that was really scary. i felt like if i go into that hole, i might never come out. i was starting to question my sanity. they had brought me to such a low level, i felt that there was nowhere to go but up. it felt like they had broken me. and in a way, that was good, because the conformity and the rules and the stability that i needed to get through life -- i mean, that's really what i was missing in my childhood. and it was so odd that it came
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together this way, in prison. i changed my attitude completely around. i started volunteering to do laundry and clean up after dinner was over. i was literally becoming a different person. it was good for me. in the middle of that, i realized that all my rebellion and all my anger came from being mad at my mom. i blamed her for not being there when i was a child. she didn't teach me right from wrong. she didn't teach me to respect authority. so i decided to write to my mom. and my first letter was really difficult. at that point, i realized, you know, she's a human being. and human beings make mistakes. you know, we all mess up.
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i messed up. [ speaking foreign language ] >> i remember getting the letter back from her telling me how much she loved me and that she's sorry. and that from this moment on, she was going to take care of me. i think that's what really got me through my time in jail. she was finally there for me. i was released without warning the day before christmas. i was free. i was going to be able to live my life again. i couldn't believe it. it was the most exciting time.
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when i came home, my parents met me at the airport. and just like she had said, her arms were wide open. and i just ran right into them. it had been such a long time for me. there wasn't a greater feeling than knowing she was back into my life and that she was ready to be there for me. it was really wonderful. the experience changed me as a whole person. i've lost a lot of that anger that i was holding onto. my relationship with my mother now is very, very strong. i finally realized what it was like to have a close-knit family and stability.
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