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"politics nation" with reverend sharpton starts ten seconds early. \s. >> all right with me. thanks, ed. we start with breaking news night falls on recovery teams in france after a passenger plane crashes in the alps. the search for answers suspended until morning. french officials telling nbc news one of the plane's black boxes has been found. 150 people are feared dead including two babies and a group of german high school students. the germanwings flight departing from spain this morning around 10:00 a.m. local time bound for germany, reaching cruising altitude. 30 minutes later, before starting a rapid but controlled descent, and then dropping off radar. crashing about 430 miles southeast of paris. >> for the time being, we say
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it's an accident. there's nothing more that we can say right now. everything else would be speculation. the question tonight -- why did the plain suddenly descend? why didn't the pilot send out a distress signal? was there a problem with the plane? again, officials say they may not be able to recover any bodies until sunrise. we've got this story covered from all angles. we'll go overseas and also talk to aviation experts here at home but we start with nbc's tom costello. tom, what are investigators looking at right now? >> well it's really a confusing and perplexing problem here because on the one hand you have a flight a plane that appeared to make a coordinated and an ordered descent from 30,000 feet
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down to we believe 6,000 feet before slamming into the mountain. only stayed at that altitude for a few minutes, then began a descent and then hit the mountain we believe in somewhere in the neighborhood of 10:40, 10:42 a.m. it was a rapid descent. the question is why over the course of that time did the crew never talk to air traffic controllers, never radioed a mayday. in fact why did they order that descent to begin with? was there something going on at that eight attitude that was of great concern to the crew? was there some sort of event, fire? smoke in or a rapid decompression event that caused the crew to realize they needed to -- we simply don't know. slamming into that mountain after only about eight minutes or so. if the crew was trying to get away or get lower because of the
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decompression, the standard protocol is to get down to 10,000 feet where you have plenty of oxygen then talk to controllers, decide which airport you're going to divert to but that didn't happen. the plane kept descending. >> so what are the main working theories right now? >> i think those are the two i've laid out. the possibility there was some sort of a cat trophic event and the crew somehow became incapacitated and wasn't able to communicate. they now have the cockpit voice recorder, now looking for the flight data recorders. they will use that information from those to try to paint a picture of what happened what was happens with the plane, what was happening inside the cockpit, what conversations were going on that might give them a suggestion of what was happening. in the meantime, the priority for the search-and-rescue people, it's very rugged and very remote is to recover the remains of everybody on board.
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you can imagine if it was your child or wife or -- you would not want them spending the night up there, even though you know they are deceased. >> tom costello thank you for your reporting tonight. >> okay. let's go to nbc's katy tur live from dusseldorf. you visited the school today that the german students on board this flight attended. how are the people there holding up, first of all? >> reporter: well not well as you would imagine. there's a lot of questions about what happened to this plane. meanwhile, the people who knew and loved those on board are struggling to come to terms with this unimaginal loss. i visited the school. it's about 45 minutes to the north of dusseldorf, where 16 students and two teachers who are on board that plane, that's where they went to school. the kids there are just struggling to come to terms with it. they were lighting a number of
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candles in memory of their lost friends, hoping by some miracle, somebody might still be alive. i spoke to a number of them and they just said that the school feels at this point just completely empty. i also spoke to one girl whose cousin was on that flight. here's what she had to say. >> i still think she will come to school tomorrow, but all the others say she won't be there, and i can't really believe she will never come and i can't really say good-bye to her. >> many of us didn't believe at first, because, um at the beginning at the news there was -- everybody said no survivors, and nobody could believe it really. >> now, this was an entire spanish class that was on an exchange program in barcelona. they were there just for the week meeting their sister school and the people they had been corresponding with for the
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past year. we're told that most of the victims, most of these kids were actually girls. right now it's just an unimaginably sad scene up there. the school has about 1,000 students, so to lose 16 is still a big loss for hem. >> everyone says if you don't know them personally you knew who they were just walking down the has. as most of the passengers on board were from this country. they're still wading to identify most of them or many of them. we're also waiting to hear about some of the other nationalities on board. but certainly this school seems to be taking the biggest hit, al. >> katy tur, thank you for your reporting this evening. let's bring in captain jay rollins, a retired american airlines captain and former u.s. navy pilot, and steven wallace, former director of the f.a.a. office of accident investigation. thank you both for being here.
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>> thank you, al. >> thank you, reverend. >> let me start with the lack of a distress call. how unusual is that? >> very unusual. it suggests the crew may have been incapacitated in some way. you know the mantra is aviate then navigate then communicate. that's the lowest priority in an emergency, but ten minutes is a long time for things to be going wrong and no mention of it on the radio whatsoever. now we're told that the transponder emergency code that was sent apparently was placed in by air traffic controllers and not by the flight crew. >> steven no distress call. is it possible there was a problem with oxygen in the cockpit, possibly living the pilots unconscious? >> certain tom costello went through several scenarios, and
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as is it captain rollins talked about, the pilots are miked up and just have to press a button. so certainly day within of any accident investigation, every possible theory is on the table. i would say here we have a highly competent investigation authority in france called the b.e.a. and this airplane has a state of the art recorders, voice and data recorders, so i'm confident they will get to the bottom of this. some of the circumstances could suggest some sudden catastrophic event, whether it was a fire or explosion or decompression or something along those lines. >> jay, what type of data could be in the black boxes? >> this time i think the voice recorder might be very helpful, because if they were speaking then we will learn a lot of what was going in their minds.
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if there was no speaking whatsoever, it suggests that they may have been unconscious. with regards to the data recorder, we have a lot of information already just from the flightaware and flight tracking web sites that give a lot of data actually in real time. so we know that that aircraft flew straight ahead, that it descended at a controlled rate even though it was rather high not excessively so it was a controlled descent. the speed was maintained so it was not a stall. the fact that it went straight ahead is very unusual with no calls. >> steve the descent was rapid but controlled. what do you make of this controlled descent? >> well you look at the airbus -- the air france 447 accident when that aircraft came
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down about 10,000 feet per mind this plane was 3,000 feet per minute. it's rapid, but not out of control. that might tend to suggest that the airplane was not australia or catastrophically upset. it came down at a reasonable descent rate. >> you know the debris looksing to fragmented into small pieces spread over a wide area. what does that tell you? >> well originally they said it was over a five-mile area. by the time we were at the end of that program earlier this morning, they narrowed it down to five acres. so i'm not sure exactly how large the field, but when i look at these small pieces it suggests that it was concentrated, and that implies to me it was high speed, which we already know from flightaware, and that it went basically into a mountain. >> let me do back to something you referred to before steve. how unusual is it that this
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happened mid flight not during takeoff or landing? >> well it's quite unusual. we've had planes lost flight 737 in greece helios which was an undetected decompression where the crew became incapacitated. we've occasionally had catastrophic events like explosion lie twa 800, but certainly the vast majority of accidents are in the takeoff and landing phases of flight. with modern jets being highly reliable and extremely power self the takeoff actually becomes less risky than the landing, but the cruise segment is typically very, very safe. so this is quite unusual. >> let me ask you, jay, how long could this investigation take. could it be months before we know what happened? >> it could be but i -- this
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one i think will be resolved fairly quickly, because they have found the data box, and there's no reason why they shouldn't find the voice recorder. once we have typically the voice recorder, we know the flight profile, then the only question remains is what system may have failed or what would have incapacitated those pilots. there's a number of theories floating around but until we get our hands on the facts, we won't really know. >> captain rollins, stay with me. steve wallace, thanks for your time tonight. >> thank you. still ahead, what we know about this plane that went down in the alps what are the potential signs of a mechanical problem? also president obama making big news today about the war in afghanistan. how fast will our troops come home? and new video of that alleged drunk driving by secret service agents. tough questions tonight about
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our thoughts and our prayers are with our friends in europe especially the people in germany and spain, following a terrible airplane crash in france. as a steadfast friend and ally america stands with them at this moment of sorrow. >> president obama today on that deadly plane crash in france. he pledged u.s. assistance and said we're working to find out if any americans may have been on board. how will investigators figure out what went wrong? much more ahead. cold with this runny nose. i better take something. dayquill cold and flu doesn't treat your runny nose. seriously? alka-seltzer plus cold and cough fights your worst cold symptoms plus your runny nose. oh, what a relief it is. in small business you have to work
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we're back with more of our breaking news coverage of that deadly plane crash in the french alps. the biggest piece of debris is reportedly the size of a small car. here's what we know so far about the plane. it was run by the low-cost airline germanwings, and was as airbus a320. it's nearly 20 -- the first flight was in 1990. lufthansa took it into service a year later. the plane's logged more than 58,000 flight hours and 46,000 flights. it went through a routine check
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just yesterday. joining mess is jay rollins, a retired american alliance cappon and former u.s. navy pilot. on skype debra hersman, president and ceo of the national safety council, the former chair of the national transportation safety board, and bob hagel, who has covered aviation for nbc news for 25 years. thank you all for being here. bob, let me go to you first. you have reported on a lot of airline disasters. what similar are there to other crashes in this? >> immediately i think of flights where there's been some problem at full altitude like this one. that is so unusual, as you said but air france just a few years ago over the atlantic when it was a failure of the navigation equipment. twa 800 over long island.
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that was at 10,000 feet so pretty well up there when the center fuel tank exploded. there was a decompression of the private jet carrying the golfer payne stewart a number ofiers where everybody passed out and the plane flew over hat of the understand before it but in this case there's no evidence of anything like that but we're pretty early into it. i think what is important here is getting the recorders. they've got one and probably will find the other one, and then we should have some answers pretty quickly, is my guess. >> bob, the plane was almost 25 years old. is that normal? >> yeah that's not bad for the life of a plane. i mean maintenance is what counts. 25 years old and especially with a workhorse brand like the a320 that's not old. that would not be a factor in
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my opinion. >> debra, the airbus a320 is a workhorse plane with a good safety record though there was a fatal crash just in december. is this a reliable aircraft? >> i think the statistics bear out. you're looking at about 6,000 of thinks airplanes transporting passengers really in every corner of the globe. so this aircraft has a long history. we really don't know what happened in this event yet, whether it was a factor with respect to the air cramant design or anything to do with the component parts. so we'll have to way and see what the reports tell us but i think this aircraft has been around for a long time and performed very well. >> deborah, how difficult does
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the say make the investigation? >> people underestimate house difficult the environment can be for investigators, and very often -- and we've looked at crashes that have occurred in the last year at a war zone. we looked at crashes that occur out in the middle of the ocean. many of these recoveries are challenging, but when you look at an event like this it's about recovering the bodies for those families and it's also about all the of the people they'll have to get up and down the mountains successfully. you don't want another crash. you have to protect the people going up there. that has to be a first priority. >> jay, this plane went through a routine check just yesterday. what does that entail? >> well it depends on which check they did, but assuming this was something of an intermediate check, maintenance goes through the records of the aircraft they check for certain components that come upon
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certain service-like issues where they have to double check the limitations being met by various avionics the elts, all these things have to be checked periodically everywhere that mant to every 90 days or so. there's various checks that are done throughout the year. >> jay, is this a difficult plane to fly? >> the airbus is reported to be an excellent aircraft in all respects. there are some people out there who have an issue about the fly by wire that this aircraft is designed. fly by wire is a little different from the design of most airliners, because older airliners, boeing in particular have relied upon hydraulics to move the flight controls. with these airbus aircraft they tend to be fly by wire so they don't use hydraulics to move the controls. instead they use electrical
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servos that are controlled by computers. so when a pilot puts in an input to move.controls he wants to turn left right or climb, he's not directly moving that surface. he's basic live giving a command that the computer mediates and then moves the surfaces for him. that becomes an issue in some people's minds. >> well this is a huge, huge tragedy, and we certainly there stay with this store. jay rollins, derorah hersman, bob, thank you for your time tonight. we'll we back with president obama's nouncement today about our troops in afghanistan. when are they coming home? also the new video of that alleged secret service drunk driving incident. is it time to revamp the entire agency? that's ahead.
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radio is rolling out the red carpet. >> watching this speech today, and it is flat-out amazing. ted cruz might really be the smartest man there. ted cruz might be the smartest man in congress. >> he represents more traditionalist point of view and i think overall more of a reaganesque view of the republican parties. >> the groundswell to somebody like ted chris is going to be enormous. >> ted cruz will be our nest president ♪ >> that's quite a jingle. but many republicans on capitol hill are singing a different opportunity. politico says his fellow texas senator won't even back him in the presidential primary. just lynn to republican congressman peter king. >> you show no qualifications
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no legislation being -- and he has no real experience. so to me he's just a guy with a big mouth and no results. >> so as the gop train starts rolling toward a primary, is it already flying off the tracks? joining me now is michelle colon from the national journal and salon.com's joan walsh. thank you both for being here. michelle what does it mean that the first candidate is ultimate the most controversial. >> he wants to get out there, grab attention, and put down his mark el. you know we've got candidates like jeb bush who are establishment favorite. they'll have no problem raising big money, but ted cruz does have a problem. he's not beloved by the
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big-money people. he's going to have to work hard to make up ground. he needs an early start and get the attention before anybody else is out there. >> joan, all of these radio people -- rush limbaugh the head of the party and everybody else how do you explain that? and what impact will they have on the primary voters? >> i think they're helpful for sure, but i think a lot of mainstream republicans have complained a while, usually quietly because they are afraid of rush limbaugh but they're afraid of this media complex that runs the republican party right now. they don't have to get elected. all they have to do is bring in money, which they apparently do. they're not that concerned about actually getting someone to the white house, which the averages republican is quite concerned. i see one past for ted chris, which is a very narrow one, which is -- but the thing is reverend al this whole field is
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conservative. jeb bush is only moderate because of the occasional rhetorical flourish not because of the policy. it had be hard to cave on the space for himself apart from scott walker apart from rand paul, unless he decided to be the nasty candidate, and i think there's a good chance he'll be that. >> they have promised to repeal obama care but today he admitted he's shining up for insurance under the affordable care act. he's doing it because his wife left a job and he's no longer covered by his hurricanes. do you think his exposure to quality artable care will help him see the light? >> this is -- he loves america so much that his wife is willing to leave her job and make them get on obamacare. that's how much he's willing to sacrifice for this country. >> that means it's good for
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america, and it is. >> i think that's probably going to be something he's not all that eager to talk about, but the man will not play politics with his children and the family can't go without 4e89 care. >> nor should he and that's why we won't let them play politics with other folks' children. this morning matt lauer asked cruz about his reputation for not compromising. listen to this. >> will you bring that brand of no compromise to the white house if you're elected? >> matt let me disagree with the premise. i've never said i won't compromise. >> shortly after elected you said, quote -- i don't think what washington needs is more compromise. >> because what washington does often is that it compromises going backwards. >> joan you know that attitude may help you with the gop base but won't it hurt him in a general election if he were to make it? >> good for matt lauer. he was trying to pretend he
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never said things like that and he had to admit it but he would be a great gift to hillary clinton or any democrat who gets the nomination. he is too divisive. he's not rankin-esque figure. when reagan ran for president, hess was a more genejeanial optimistic man. >> michelle senator rand paul took some shots at cruz after the announcement. >> i spent the last couple years trying to go places republicans haven't gone. make not just throwing out red meat but something selectually enticing to people who haven't been listening to our message before. >> so cruz is just throwing out red matter? i mean, how nasty is this going to get? >> it's going to get pretty ugly. cruz stepped on rand paul's announcement, which is expected
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to come soon. cruz is more flamboyant. with cruz the difference is style. he's the most in your face aggressive bomb-throwing member who will get into this race. i think rand paul is much lower key. i think they'll clash, but you'll see a lot of people lining up. the debates will be spectacular fun. you won't want to miss any of them. >> how do you deal with the fact that with all of this, he's only 4% in the polls. >> because i think there is hunger in the republican party this time around for an actual president, and i think they're looking at people they consider more electable like jeb bush, like scott walker, job will drive away a lot of conservatives, but i think they have a lot of choices that aren't as divisive as ted chris. so we'll see. >> do the far right conservatives knock each other out and clear the path for a
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more moderate or at least perceived to be one, or one that has more of a style that is presidential? >> i think separate much all the republicans you talk to agree that somebody will have to cobble together a coalition, and sizable coalition. not a coalition on the fringe. they're going to have to get a broad spectrum of voters. i think the more conservatives you have in this race appealing to the far right, obviously they'll split the vote and leave it to people who have a more mainstream appeal. >> michelle coddle and joan walsh, thank you for your time tonight. >> thanks rev. angelina speaks out about a personal battle. why did she choose to have life-changing surgery? jeb says he's not running in the shadow of his brother, but now he's leaning on george w. for serious help. we'll tell you why in "conversation nation" next. delicious. perfect.
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time now for "conversation nation." joining me tonight midwin charles, msnbc contributor jimy williams and political strategist angela rye. thank you all for being here tonight. we start with a very personal revelation from one of the hollywood's biggest stars. angelina jolie writes in "new york times" that -- in order to
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avoid cancer she has had her ovaries and fallopian tubes removed, forcing her body into early men opaul, a carrier of the so-called breast cancer gene already had a double mastectomy two years ago. she decided to have her latest round of surgery earlier this month after blood tests showed signs of what could have been early stage cancer. she writes -- its not possible to remove all risk and the fact is i remain prone to cancer. i feel feminine and grounded in the choices i am making for myself and my family. i nigh moe children will never have to say -- mom died of ovarian cancer. mid win, what do you think of her going public in this way? >> it's think it's an amazing and wonderful thing for her to
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do. i was quite surprised at the level of detail and the extent she describes what she went through and why she made what some would say are drastic -- i think she's saved lives of hundreds of women, and perhaps this would help oertsds to be bold in making the same choice or at least figuring out their options when they get those dreaded decisions from those doctors, the dreaded news that they may perhaps have in gene as well. >> you know angela it's a courageous think to to go public. she went into great detail and really bared a lot of her own privacy. >> i think to that point, i think it is amazing that someone who can afford care -- right, she talked about the different options she has and all is not lost, to i'm hoping with this piece, people will use their health care plans and obamacare,
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to see what options are available to save lives. preventative is the most important things so i think it's amazing for her, but most importantly people will hopefully get themselves to get checked out. >> isn't that part of what she probably has as as a mission to nudge the public to take care of themselves and to follow her example, not necessarily doing what she did. because she said very clearly this will not be something that everyone should do but do something, deal with your health? >> that's exactly right. i went through something very similar, preventative care they found something, they went in and took it out. i survived and eye very lucky. think about the world five years ago, pre-obamacare. angela just alluded to it. your health insurance company
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would have been able to throw you off of their ranks had it -- i'm not politicizing what she's done. what i'm simply saying is kudos and masses and mazel tov to her doing it and prior to that they could not do that. ted cruz announced yesterday he was running for president, and he will sign into law a repeal of every word of obamacare. she's a prime example of why we should never in a billion years elect ted cruz or anyone else who hates obamacare to be president of the united states. sorry to say it, but i mean it. >> today another republican is coming out against lo redia lynch for attorney general. after meeting with lynch, senator shelly moore said her views are troubling to me and said she wasn't sure lynch
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could, quote, exercise the independence needed to stand up for the proper separation of powers. now, despite an exemplary report as a u.s. attorney republicans are still holding this nomination hostage. she'd waited 136 days longer than any other recent nominee and she's till to wait until at least mid-april. i'm quoting from bloomberg. what is the end game here? >> just to stifle progress at all costs oyi cannot believe that senator capito would say that. of course she's going to serve at the discretion of the president, just as anyone else in the cabinet serves.
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just as they did under george w. bush. that's ridiculous. more importantly, what do you want from your attorney general relative to voting rights? relative to criminal justice reform? maybe that's just it. maybe they don't want to confirm someone else who would be an extension of this great track record of eric holder. yes, she's independent, yes, sir she loretta lynch, but we want someone in that space that will protect the people and serve as the people's lawyer. that is what they're demonstrating they don't want. >> midwin you're a lawyer. is there any legal reason anything in her legal background that a legitimately questions her qualifications to be attorney general? >> none that i can think of. i've had the pleasure of watching her a few years ago. her record is incredible. i cannot understand why it is
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that anyone would have an issue with respect to her qualifications. for this one politician to cher hi-pick this one issue and say that only reason is the reason why she would do everything in her power to block lo redia lynch's nomination is disturbing to me. we've already seen the level of work that the department of justice does. we looked at the ferguson report that just came out. the people of america need a top law enforcement officer. >> but terrorism and other areas, and i think, jimmy, that if you don't have any blemish on your record and if you've shown to be a quality prosecutor they're making a mockery out of the whole process by doing this jimmy. >> right. >> of course whoever a president appoints tends to view certain things in terms of the interpretation of law that is closer to that president, but certainly they sometime end up investigating that president.
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this is absurd. >> first they need to vote and if they don't like her, vote no. i think the republican leadership under senator mcconnell is actually terrified that he won't have enough votes to actually get her confirmed. if that happens on his watch, think about the racial and political ramifications of loretta lynch going down as the president's nomination to be the attorney general of the united states. first african-american woman and what is the first thing the republican caucus does? newly installed after the elections last year? they vote down a black woman to be a.g. that's in and of itself a death nell for anything that they're do -- >> if that's true the only
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thing worse is putting her on hold for it seems like after easter? this is absurd. >> that's correct. everyone stay with me. when we come back jeb said he's his own man. why is he leaning on his father and brother for serious help this week? rement. a 401(k) is the most sound way to go. let's talk asset allocation. sure. you seem knowledgeable professional. i'm actually a dj. [ dance music plays ] woman: [laughs] no way! that really is you? if they're not a cfp pro you just don't know. cfp -- work with the highest standard. i have a cold with terrible chest congestion. better take something. theraflu severe cold doesn't treat chest congestion. really? new alka-seltzer plus day powder rushes relief to your worst cold symptoms plus chest congestion. oh, what a relief it is. here we go!
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jeb bush has tried to put some daylight betweensh -- but now he's leaning on them to raise some serious cash. tomorrow his brother george will make a rare political appearance as a $100,000 per couple fund-raiser for jeb in dallas. thursday jeb's parents, george h.w. bush and barbara bush will be by their son's side for a houston fund-raiser. jimmy, he says he wants to be his own man. >> listen i don't want jeb bush to become president of the united states. let's be honest about that. i want hillary clinton toss president. but if jeb bush is going to run away from his father and
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brother, who were presidents and their legacies a, you're dissing your own family but more importantly, what signal does that sent to the american people? listen, the american public will judge him on his own. do i think there's lasting effects of george w. bush? most certainly. george h.w. bush? i think so. i think most people look at him as a wonderful man, but if he wants to be president, all he has to do is lay out his vision. fund-raising with them? that's probably very smart. he is loved on the farther right. >> is this good object bad for
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jeb bush. >> jo are jimmy as passion. it's bad in terms of creating distance. he almost has an idea at national security team as his dad and brother, so there's not too much distinction there. i'll make up for it later. >> it's jimmy's fault. [ laughter ] >> midwin jimmy and angela thank you for your time tonight. >> thank you. when we come back new video of the alleged drunk driving episode from the secret service. stay with us. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!" ♪ ♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. and we're here to help start yours.
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package left at the white house. the secret service director didn't learn about the incident for five days. in a hearing today, lawmakers were furious. >> when a chain of command is broken, there is no command. it's like a body without a head. and when there is no command, there is vulnerability. again, that vulnerability goes to the safety of the president of the united states of america. >> the secret service has to figure this out. the american people demand it. we must see the president and his family protected, no matter who the president is but under this president, there's been too many snafus, too the mistakes and many americans want to know why, and to reshape and revamp the secret service so it doesn't
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happen. thanks for watching i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. \s. what happened in that cockpit? this is "hardball." ♪ good evening, i'm kris matthews in washington. that's the center of the mystery right now in today's crash over the alps. why were the pilots unable to steer that plane to a safe landing? if it was a pressurization emergency, why didn't they simply descend to a lower alternate tide? why heading into the mountains? 144 passengers were on that flight traveling from barcelona