hello, i'm ari melber in for alex wagner. we have breaking news. audio now recovered from the plane's audio cockpit contains sound and voices. hours ago the casing of the plane's second black box was also discovered and that of course carrying crucial flight data, but the actual contents of the box are still missing. the state department confirming there were three americans on that plane. joining me claudia, anthony, and

latny campbell. how is the rescue effort going? >> reporter: well, of course now the rescue effort for today has been called off because in the dark of night. it will resume again tomorrow morning, but we were expecting some breakthrough today. not in the recovery of the bodies of the debris, because it is very ardous terrain to get through. the paris aviation authority said they did recover the two black boxes. it will take days and weeks before they can figure out what they are saying. then again we got francois hollande who came here with

angela merkel who said they found the frame of the second black box, but not the black box itself. we saw a press conference from the company's ceo. they could not figure out why a plane with two experienced pilots dropped in altitude without saying anything to the control tower, without answering the calls from the control tower and just crashed into the mountain nearby here. >> from what you're hearing, what is the theory for why the plane went down? >> reporter: there are a number of theories. because the pilots did not communicate, did not call out for help did not sent out distress calls or may-days and did not answer to calls from the control tower, the theory is they were incapacitated.

lack of oxygen depressurization in some way. they just lost conscious. that might explain why the plane just dropped steadily for eight minutes until it just crashed on that mountain. >> given your experience what do you make of that theory? while you are answering, we're looking at a simulation here on the screen we've been running by nbc news according to the timeline, but can you speak to what claudio is telling us. they're starting at 10:00 a.m. from takeoff and over the next 40 minutes it goes through this problem without communication. >> i think that's a good analysis. it's highly unusual for pilots especially for pilots that are this experienced, not to make any radio call or communication. i've been through a de decompression event.

you make a call to air traffic control that you have a problem. >> just explain what is a decompression event specifically. >> your airplane is pressurized. you're trying to keep the cabin pressurized so they're breathing as though they are at sea level or above. as the airplane climbs up to a normal cruising altitude the cabin altitude would have been just like they were sitting on top of a 6,000 or 7,000 foot mountain. if you depressurize it, there's not enough pressure to force the oxygen into their bloodstream and lungs. they're going to very rapidly become lethargic and go unconscious. almost all airlines have extensive training for decompression events. certainly with germanwings, you would anticipate they received

very, very specific training for such a potentiality. >> we had a french official today say that that lack of communication suggested that the pilots might have been quote, incapacitated. that's also one of the theories of the officials here. >> yeah, it sure is, but there are other theories that could explain why the pilots would be incapacitated. a criminal act would be one theory. a criminal act from either a crew member, the cockpit crew, flight attendants or a passenger. they would run background investigations on every single passenger, current background investigations on all of the crew and come to some determination on that as well. >> bringing claudio back in from being on the scene here i want to read another statement from another official about the point of possibility, yes, a crime or terror, which is just an investigative pursuit, no hard

information confirming like that yet, but this is what an official says. we don't have any evidence that points clearly to a technical explanation. we have to consider the possibility of human responsibility. >> he was looking into this as an accident and not as a terror attack or a criminal attack. this is completely unexplained, but you cannot rule any other options out. they did make it clear that they can rule out completely that there was an explosion midair, for instance, because of the nature of the impact. this plane just smashed into that mountain at very high speed. possibly at 500 miles per hour.

it just went right into that. that's the reason why it completely pulverized in a way. the debris is so small. you cannot make out any of the pieces of the plane. in other incidents of other accidents, you could see part of the wing the nose the fuselage but nothing like that happened here. it is completely pulverized. they are excludeing the explosion midair. >> when we see that reporting of how pulverized the plane was itself, talk to us about why sometimes the black boxes, which we're told are the source of so much valuable intel, sometimes they don't make it through? >> they're designed to take incredible impact and the data recorder it wouldn't be uncommon in such a hard impact for that to separate from the

box itself. even if they don't find that box, the cockpit voice recorder will tell them incredible information. if the voices of the pilots are lethargic or questions that are nonsensical nonsensical, they'll know they're under the influence of decompression. it will give them all kinds of clues as to what actually happened even if the data recorder isn't found. i don't think it is an act of terrorism because the airplane remained in a very steady flight pattern. >> anthony, just briefly, when you talk about the voice recorders, that's different from the black box. if you get it, it shows what happened in the final minutes?

>> yes, there are sensors in the headset and microphone and in the ceiling of the cockpit. it not only records the voices but records all of the normal and abnormal sounds. the flight data recorder has hundreds of parameters it measures. >> so many deaths so many unanswered questions. that's the kind of evidence that might bring much better evidence about what happened. we turn to another breaking story. u.s. army officials announcing just a few minutes ago that sergeant bowe bergdahl he will face, as of today, charges for

dissertion and misconduct. joining me now aman. you think about, of course the address to the joint session of congress today. you think about the debate over bergdahl's capture and trade with the taliban. what does this new information today mean? >> from a military perspective, it is trying to move forward on the promise to investigate the disappearance of sergeant bowe bergdahl at the time. it is going to ignite on a political front debate. keep in mind that at the time of this prison swap that took place about a year ago, the united states gave up five senior ranking members of the taliban

that were held at guantanamo bay. at the time, there was a lot of questions as to whether this was a violation of american law. did the united states negotiate with a terrorist organization to release bowe bergdahl? it was decided no. we were simply bringing home an american soldier, a prison of war, from enemies on the battlefields. there was also questions on whether or not the administration was required to tell congress that they were releasing five detainees from guantanamo bay. there were allegations that that perhaps was a violation as well. you can imagine this may once again reignite that political debate in washington, but from a military perspective they're going through with the questions that had been if you will, unanswered for years as to how

sergeant bowe bergdahl disappeared off his military base. >> this is the proper way to do it with him here at home in custody and not leaving him out abroad. these are serious charges carrying up to life in prison. thank you for your reporting. don't forget to catch "road map" on shift. jeb bush has stressed he is independent from his brother, but tonight he'll appear with the former president to raise money in texas. we have our eye on the first person to officially enter the presidential race ted cruz. he is explaining why terrorism made him rethink the music he listens to. that's ahead on "now."

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he hasn't given an in-person address at either of the last two gop conventions. he was on video in 2008. our political team can't remember the last time the former president was campaigning for any candidates in person vying for office that is until today. >> good to be with you. >> you're there in dallas. are you going to the fundraiser? >> i'm not sure, but i certainly was on the invitation and i hope to get there. >> are you going to endorse jeb bush? >> yes, i am. i am. i have met with him. i think he is exactly what we need right now that will take us in the right direction. i think he will have a vision, and i think he will implement the vision. he's been a governor, he knows business and i think he will

help our economy. >> when is the last time you spoke with him and what do you think about his concern, which is a concern that has involved the last two republican presidential nominees that w. is not the front and center party message right now? >> i think he is his own person. he's not a texan. he's a floridian. he cut taxes, steeply cut taxes, and he also cut the state budget, got a triple aaa rating. that's what we need right now. we need someone who will get the economy going. he will understand what business needs to create new jobs. he's also very humble and not at all even trying to be anything but himself, and i appreciate that. >> when you say he's humble do you think that's a contrast to some of the other candidates we're seeing right now?

>> i think he has a way about him that is going to give people confidence and i think people are going to trust him. he's not bragging guy. he's not a guy that does sweeping gestures. he's kind of the trusting father type that you want to run our country. i think we need someone who will bring people together, democrats and republicans. that's what he did in florida. that's what his reputation is. he will have an agenda. he will focus on that agenda. he will have creative ideas to get to the things that we need which are low unemployment and more people working in good jobs and families being able to support their children. i think he will have a vision, and i think he's shown he can govern and make the tough decisions. >> you're making him as the

pitch as the togetherness and more chill republican candidate. thank you. >> thank you ari. >> you bet. now we have editor at large joan walsh and steve korunanacki. let's start right there. >> this is the single biggest obstacle that jeb bush faces. george w. bush's approval ratings and continuing to this day not very good. the question of do we need or want another bush. but the bigger problem he faces when it comes to the bush name is within the republican party, specifically the tea party movement and how they interpret the george w. bush years. he represented the republican party saying we're going to sacrifice something in terms of conservative principles for the sake of electability.

that's the idea of passionate conservativism that george w. bush rode to power on. when his approval rating was down to 30%, conserveatives said we have a terribly unpopular president and we got barack obama. that's what the tea party movement came from. it was to fight barack obama. >> let me interject. your piece makes that point beautifully. i think there's truth to that historical. sometimes you prepare for these segments. find me a number that supports this thing. let me put up very conservatives in february of 2013 on both bushes. 74% favorable and 21% unfavorable among the very conservative. jeb, 37, 43. >> if you look at where george

w. bush was in 1999 and jeb bush now -- he's basically upside down. when you look at george w. bush you don't need to worry about -- you can defend him like that. i think the bigger thing is if you look at the rise of the tea party movement what did they talk about? >> i also have to say this is a very weird thing for jeb bush to be doing. he and his people said from get k ing out the gate i am my own man. now he's saying not so much. i understand why we could have waited until farther into the cycle. is he that desperate for money?

it seems like a ploy. that shows you're really not inevitable. he's definitely not inevitable, but it is just cheesy. >> no one on the right sees this as the kind of race that will be locked up. >> right. i think he's dealing with somebody who is very weak in scott walker. the wheels are falling off the truck before the truck is on the road. ted cruz just like with mitt romney, if you get a bunch of people on the right firing at each other and ted cruz intends to be the first one doing that there is room for jeb bush to consolidate and win the battle because he's the last person standing. they will be shooting at him too, but i think there's a way in which he -- he's not inevitable by in meanany means, but

he's stronger than you think. >> there's a pecking order now for the non-bush candidate. scott walker has had the inside track. there's been some bumps in the road for him. the question is who is next in line. right now marco rubio might be next in line to play that role. but there are question marks about marco rubio. i think we need to watch john kasich, the governor of ohio. you're looking at a few months from now and i could see kasich filling that role. >> i was at a lunch with him earlier today. he said i'm not a compassionate conservative. i'm a true conservative.

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will get health care from obamacare. one of the odder moments from an otherwise light interview we learned ted cruz changed his musical taste in music in response to the 9/11 attacks. >> my music taste changed on 9/11. on 9/11 i didn't like how rock music responded. the way country music responded it resonated with me. at a gut level, i had an emotional reaction that said these are my people. every since 2001 i listen to country music. >> joining me now are my guests. tremendous panel. what's he talking about? >> nothing says let's go kill some muslims like country music fresh from lynchburg, virginia.

i mean really? that's absurd. >> there's plenty of country music that doesn't have that message, right? i guess part of the question, joan, is whether his musical taste should be determined by foreign policy events however terrible. a lot of people here in new york saw 9/11 as a terrible event. it's hard to follow how you would then say i give up on a genre. >> what an idiot. has he heard of bruce springsteen? he doesn't do his homework. he's not talking to people like us. it's fine. he knows who he is pandering to but i can't believe it is going to work with country fans god bless them. >> this was a time for a hot of culture unity. he's finding a way to dial back

and say, some parts of the music industry responded the wrong way. >> i don't think that's what he was saying that they responded the wrong way. >> that's exactly what he said. love you michael. >> you're absolutely right, joan. he's not talking to you. >> that's fine. >> i think what he was trying to say, however awkward it came out, country music captured that moment for him. it expressed what he felt. it expressed his idea of america at this time of terrorism and that resonated with him. i don't make much more of it than that and i don't take a lootlot of high-brow significance from it or low-brow significance from it. >> are you calling some people high-brow? >> yes. those who are thinking too much about it. >> did it strike use a

politically planned appeal? >> i think it is optic. it gives you a glimpse of who this man is. he is going to speak to a very specific segment of our political spectrum. i think he's going to drive a very strong conservative message over the next 18 months. it'll be interesting. >> i want to move to an even more fun topic, which is this facebook thing. they have this new feature that helps you relive things that have happened earlier in your life because they are on facebook. the big thing about it is joan they're trending positive. they're kind of only trying to feature the positive things in you recent history. >> which is just why facebook is like spiritual fast food and the cause of a diabetes of the soul really because what it is trying

to do at all moments -- keep your attention from going anywhere positive having control of your attention. now they're feeding you happy moments from your past which can only make you feel -- maybe they'll make you feel all warm and fuzzy or oh i'm not having that much fun now. when we look at our friends' facebook feeds, we feel jealous. our current lives are lacking compared to our past lives. oh, my god. >> most adults are on facebook. heavy facebook use can make people jealous or depressed. >> i think joan hits it out of the park. why do want to look backwards? we're a nation that looks forward. that was a nice vacation. who knows what happened on that vacation that i might not want to relive? >> when they asked him about 50

years of designing, he had a right to look back. he said, quote, there's no history. i don't even have archives of myself. i keep nothing. what i like is to do not the fact that i did. facebook is betting a lot of other people would rather look backwards. >> we have to go back to there so we can feel better about ourselves and make the through the day. >> i do know your daughter through facebook so that's a great thing. >> and has offered to babysit from facebook in the future. >> in the future yes. >> it is like when things are too cheery. if you know someone who is too aggressively cheery or everything is awesome, there's something there about trying to coerce people to be socially positive. facebook has a business interest in doing that when reality might reflect the idea that we just

want to be honest about things. taylor swift wants more honesty. this is two days after she called out an sat prep test for misquoting her song lyrics. the company apologized today and to make it up to their test takers they're offering two free tickets to a concert of taylor swift's. let me give you a lyric. the test says somebody tells you they love you, you got to believe them. the real lyric is somebody tells you they love you --

>> we have been messing with grammar to create rhyme and fun. they're being the big ole spoil sport. >> i wonder why she picked this fight. music doesn't need to be grammatically correct. what do you make of this? >> i don't know what you're talking about. >> you used to quote a lot of rap. >> and look where that got me. there should be a lesson to everyone here. careful what you're quoting. i think that this is at the end of the day -- it is for a test. let's get real. joan hit it again. >> thank you michael. >> we speak our language in a way that we have fun with it, we rime rhyme it, we do all kinds of stuff. >> i'm keeping score. i'm wrong about ted cruz. right about everything else. that's pretty good. >> there you go.

>> thank you very much. coming up, the latest kwomt developments in the crash of germanwings flight 9525.

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and therapies that are available to angelina and other women were available to her, so she died very young. when i was 11 years. it's one of the reasons i'm doing this film to honor the very complicated story of cancer. it hasn't been told. we hear little fragments, but we never put it together, so here's the executive summary. that's what our film is about. >> you say it has touched so many people because it is such a common illness. let me play a short clip where you look at this as a bit of a biography of sorts. >> here's something that is going to intersect with all of our lives, yet we know very little about it. where does it rise? what happens next? >> what did you set out to do in telling a story about this disease? >> well, the clip you just saw was a clip of an interview with

an author whose book is the base of this documentary series. we wanted to tell the comprehensive story. we wanted to go backwards to tell the mystery story of how they unpacked the mechanisms of cancer. we wanted to be in the hospital today following the patients so people could get a real understanding of the choices like the one angelina has to make. it is a story of great hope that we want to get across. >> i think that's exactly it. there's a sense that we have spent way too long as citizens hiding people in the attic and more recently being superstitious, our head in the sand but one out of two men will get cancer in their lifetime. one out of three women. it will be the number one disease. if you don't want to know about that, then you're crazy. if it is the emperor of all maladies, then we ought to be part of the resistance movement

that's going after this tyrant, this suppresser of us and that requires information and not just fragmented information, but directed information. it is a road map. we are posed on the threshold of hope where we have the combination of unlocking the human genome the ability of our kmurt computers to manage metadata. we are at a threshold of making big progress in cancer in the next few years. all we need is the funding. >> as a story teller how do you do that effectively when we cover disasters all the time that people respond differently? >> this is a big human story

that has the ultimate fear factor into it, but that's what we're doing. this is more dramatic than any csi and it's about us. there's no one in this conversation that's been untouched by cancer and that's only going to get more common. we need to arm ourselves with the tools to know how to deal with it and knowledge is of course, power in this case. because we don't know what's going on we felt we could organize this following sid's extraordinary work of literature and tell the story. it's very dramatic. we have got some of the most poignant human stories we have ever seen on camera. our talking heads are more brain power than i've ever seen in a film. we have this wonderful animation that brings the science not only alive, but understandable to a lay audience. >> what is that like when you're in these rooms when there's bad

news, there's fear, there's uncertainty, and you're talking about the ultimate human question which is life and death? >> it's gut wrenching, but there was a lot of joy as well. a lot of the people we followed -- we rode the roller coaster along with them and many of them turned out fine. the big news is some 60% of current diagnosed cases will end up fine. that number continues to rise every year. we are on the verge of really much more rapid progress than we have made up to this point, so we follow through the history all the ups and downs, all the setbacks, all the moments of optimism, but each one of those failures and disappointments has led us to the point where we are today where we really understand this disease and we're on the brink of major changes. >> thank you both for joining

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recorder. it contains sounds and voices but it is still too early to draw any conclusions for it. the contents of the second black box are still missing. what can you tell us at this hour? >> reporter: it's about 10:00 in the evening. this is the town that is closest to the crash site. the rescue operation or recovery operation at this point has been wrapped up for today, but it will start tomorrow morning at the crack of dawn. we saw six separate helicopters carrying back and forth the rescue workers, emergency workers that were being dropped and lower on that crash site because it is so difficult to reach. they were assessing and trying to find pieces of evidence and trying to find the bodies and

find a way to bring back the bodies to give back to their families. we saw angela merkel and francois hollande. they reassured they're doing everything to speed up the investigation, to just tell us what really goes into this strange crash. it is strange because compared to other crashes we have seen in the past this plane does not nose dive. did not explode midair did not disappear. this plane just slowly when it was at cruise altitude everything seemed to be fine. the weather was fine. it just slowly descended slowly but surely until it just smashed, pulverized against this mountain. the strangest thing is that there was no mayday no distress call. they called the pilots trying to find out what happened and the pilots just did not answer. there is some theory that says

they may have been incapacitated in some way. >> thank you for that update. i appreciate your reporting on this story today. that is it for "now." good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from new york. let's get to work. tonight, a student at the center of a racist chant is about to speak out. >> i don't believe he is a racist. >> later -- >> one of the good things about obamacare. >> i like green eggs and ham. >> ted cruz eats his own words. >> we'll be getting new health insurance on the federal exchange. >> and smog defender. >> burning the constitution of the united states cannot be part of our national energy policy. >> if you control carbon you control life. >> plus new details on the