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treatment for depression and your employer finds out about it, you're going to be out of a job. >> the last thing we thought we were going to face in terms of defending ourselves is defending ourselves against tyrants. >> we begin with new details in the case of germanwings flight 9525, which crashed into the french alps on tuesday. they have uncovered evidence that the co-pilot on that flight andreas lubitz hid an illness from his employer. investigators found an important piece of evidence. notes now torn up that accused lubitz from work for medical reasons. the german prosecutor is confirming to nbc the certificate describes andreas lubitz as quote, unfit to work for several days. those days included the day of this fateful crash.

the airline says it never received this notice, however. the hospital confirming that lubitz has been a patient there just 17 days ago as well as a stint in february. the hospital saying he was not treated, however, for depression and declined to comment further on his condition. they believe lubitz deliberately threw that passenger jet into the mountains making it a mass murder of the 150 people on board. dna experts working to identify those victims using anything they can. pieces of jewelry or clothing. families also visiting the site again today erecting memorials directly on the scene. joining me now are my guests. we start on the scene. what is the latest?

>> reporter: well, of course we hear that the german investigators believe that there is a link between that note that was found in his apartment and the decision by andreas lubitz to down that plane. what was that illness? we do not know, but we do know that andreas lubitz has a past of depression. he had to sick leave. whether this new illness that is referred to in this sick note that made him unfit to work during that week, we don't know yet. of course there is lots of speculation on what it could be but this could be the reason why he did what he did. more interestingly enough the

german prosecutors also said they are excludeing political and religious motives. they haven't found a suicide note or a note claiming responsibility in his apartment. he just made that decision on the spot, possibly. >> you look at that from an investigative point of view. for it to be terrorism, it would generally be considered necessary to have some other overt political or some sort of strategic goal beyond murder itself. that's important to investigators. doesn't make a difference much to these families still suffering here. what do you make of that aspect of the investigation they're trying to figure out and what we just heard about this chain of events regarding his mental health? >> ari, there's a couple parts here. one, i think now that we have this information and it focuses squarely on the co-pilot acting alone and not part of some

group, i think that quells the fear that was originally out there the first days of this event whether people didn't know whether it was a terrorist attack. i think that helps the flying public with a little bit of a sense of relief but now we have to focus on this pilot and what were the motivators. we know he had this unfit to fly notice but we don't know whether it was for. whether it was for mental health or physical health, did he have the flu or some other catastrophic or life-threatening ill illness? >> good point. what good is that if that determination is not provided to someone else at the employer to intervene? >> this is a self-policing type of environment that we work in as pilots. it is up to us to voluntarily disclose. that pilot should have given that slip that piece of paper

for unfit to fly to the airline. >> you can see -- i know you're just here giving your expertise. you can see why anyone watching at home would say that doesn't make sense. if you are unfit to fly, you might also be unfit to communicate honestly with your employer about your various situation. >> and that's the situation we have here in the united states as well because hipaa protects a lot of those medical records. there are people that are sick out there or taking medications that have not disclosed that to their employer so there's going to have to be a policy or a regulatory change to make that happen. >> from your experience as a pilot, what do you think of that? it also goes to something that i want to be very careful about which is not to stigmatize mental health. we're trying to ensure that everyone gets the care they need. there's nothing wrong with needing care or battling depression or what people might

be going through, and yet all this reporting suggestions there is a resistance among some to self-report or even discuss it openly at work. >> well, you can assume that somebody's identity who is really tied to their job that they're passionate about, to get devastating news about their medical, which means they might lose their job, the inclination is to try to keep it secret. we have to state the truth or if it is discovered by the faa or our employers we're subject to losing our jobs in criminal finding. something clearly triggered him to do what he did. i suspect it is the evidence from that medical that he had or the lack of being able to pass that medical and then maybe a trigger event in the cockpit where he just decided that's it i'm done and i'm going to do this thing. again, that's just one facet of what we use when we show up to fly. personally i use an old acronym.

pies. am i physically fit to fly? emotionally am i ready to fly? and is it safe on that day given the conditions to fly? in this case i think it was pretty clear. whatever that medical disposition was, that's what led him to go off the deep end. >> any response to what we have heard from these experts and anything else you can tell us about what the victims' families have been doing today, including those memorials? >> there is a procession of the victims' families here. yesterday there were about 200 relatives who came here. they were taken to a spot not far from here where they set up some kind of makeshift memorial. they were laying flowers. they were in tears.

they're being consoled by the national police here. today there were more families that did exactly the same and the same will happen for the next two weeks. we're being told by the original officer here that there will be as many as 1,000 family members of the victims' of this crash. tomorrow we're told some japanese and british families will come and then more in the next few days. >> thank you all. i want to turn to some big politics news today. senator harry reid announce announcing he will retire next year. we're going to report on which lawmaker did this on capitol hill. some are calling it the worst parking job, ever. later, astronaut scott kelly moments ago took off into space

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the two men hatched a plan to kill dozens at a military facility south of chicago. joining me now is a reporter from chicago. this is not the first time the fbi and doj have moved swiftly when there were isis sympathizers trying to go abroad. what can you tell us about these disturbing allegations? >> while this news comes as a shock and surprise to us, on the outside the fbi has been aware of these two young men and their alleged plans for sometime. as a matter of fact when one of them was arrested, one of the people with them was an fbi informant according to the case that's being laid out against them. not only was one of the cousins who was a member of the national guard, he was planning to according to the case planning to travel to the middle east through cairo to join up with isis, but his other cousin the

one who planned to remain behind in the united states is also accused now of coming up with a plot to attack american service people outside of the chicago area in area. this is something perhaps the fbi has been aware of for sometime. there was some facebook communications between the two men, the two cousins, and the authorities unbeknownst to them. according to government sources, this thing seems to have been stamped out prior to it taking place. had it taken place, there would have been a lot of bloodshed very similar to the situation in paris could have happened on our own soil. >> from your reporting, was this close to be operational or still at an aspirational stage? >> we could say it was aspirational on one hand.

on the other hand one man was picked up en route to the middle east. the second phase of it would have been this attack here on the homeland. this was stamped out in the bud or nipped in the bud. what's interesting about this is we are hearing more and more of these cases taking place all the time that young people some disillusioned -- we don't know the case with these two young cousins, aside from the fact they are american citizens and american born. what's interesting about this is that isis the islamic state or what have you, does seem to be actively reaching out to young people here throughout north america and europe and we're finding out more and more as information comes clear that they seem to be getting through to young people mainly young men, although the case of the young british women recently going over there.

young people seem to be targeted and a lot of young people seem to be recruited by this. we have to get into the reasons why it is taking place and something really needs to be done. people need to look at how it is taking place and how it can be thwarted. >> thank you for your reporting. coming up a fighter is setting down his gloves. harry reid saying he is going to retire next year. what does that mean for democratic leadership? the promise of the cloud is that every organization has unlimited access to information, no matter where they are. the microsoft cloud gives our team the power to instantly deliver critical information to people, whenever they need it. here at accuweather we get up to

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senate the state of nevada than us. as a result of that i'm not going to run for re-election. the decision i have made has nothing to do with my injury and has nothing to do with my being minority leader and my ability to be re-elected. >> listening there to harry reid. he's the most powerful democrat in congress announcing his retirement. that's going to be next year after three decades in congress. he's minority leader. he was the legislative quarterback for changing filibuster rules and getting more of the president's nominees confirmed. that close relationship with president obama was on display. >> senator, we have a surprise caller for you. >> good. >> on line three. go ahead. >> is this harry reid?

harry, this is barack. >> well i'll be damned. >> are you allowed to say that on radio? >> i'll be damned. >> well. >> it marks a pretty big turning point for democrats in washington. this is actually if you look back at it the first time a top leadership post has opened up for them in ten years. that would give senators a chance to think about who they want to be the party's national face or make changes. but anybody hoping this would be a time to decide who that face is, think again. harry reid already pushing for his own candidate. he has endorsed new york senator chuck schumer. joining me now to break this all down political editor sam stein and perry bacon.

perry, i don't want to start with the smart money in washington, which is where folks will tell you the democrats in the senate have already kind of worked this out. technically durbin was the whip. i want to start big picture and say at this moment in the country with everything going on and the obama era ending is it even a good idea for either party to rush to figure out who's going to lead it in a year and a half from now without a nod towards any kind of democratic process? >> it's a great question. i thought there would be more of a debate because durbin is known to be more liberal and schumer is known to be more centrist. the way to move the democratic caucus to the left -- or to the right for that matter is not

through the leadership but you can see there are already changes. elizabeth warren has pushed some different things already. that agenda can still change. >> i think that's certainly true right now, sam. i think the model that harry reid used and dashel used before him was definitely what you would call a concealotory model in the caucus. >> yeah. the modern senate is different now. a lot of the power has been sort of taken away from the committee chairs and handed into the arms of the leadership who gets to essentially control the floor in both chambers so it's not without consequence to not have this decided democratically. senator chuck schumer would have immense say over what the flow

of legislation would be to the floor and naturally what he can do is set agenda as to what is discussed publicly. these things do have consequence. i am a little surprised like you are that they are already getting in line. democrats are known for being frantic about these things and disorganized. having a pretty smooth succession pattern is out of the ordinary for the party. >> i think that's fair. on that point, perry, it may be a testament to chuck schumer who is widely respected not only within the party, but republicans as being a very bright tactical strategist someone you can sit across the table and work with. yes, he is known for going to the cameras. i don't think that's a distinguishing factor in washington and i say that speaking directly into a camera. but he does have that respect so this may be a testament to his

ability to sew this up. the other thing i want to get to is this voteathon they had. john mccain said this whole thing is stupid. senator feinstein said it is my least favorite day of the year because it is worthless. they are saying these are symbolic votes that are done that don't mean anything. does saying that reduce their symbolic power? >> i disagree with the senators. they're up there voting, but i think these budgets do tell us things. the house budget says we should get rid of obamacare. that's a significant statement. the senate democrats pushed an amendment that would create a new kind of paid family leave program and 16 republicans voted for some kind of paid leave. almost all of those republicans being in key swing states tells you paid leave is fairly popular

even in republican districts. it tells you obamacare repeal is still mission for the republican party. >> it is great on the five-year anniversary, which the president has been pushing. >> this law is saving money for families and for businesses. this law is also saving lives. it's working, despite countless attempts to repeal undermine, and defame this law. we have been promised a lot of things that didn't turn out to be the case. doom. a serious alternative from republicans in congress. >> he's got jokes. perry, i wonder if at a political level obamacare for the republicans will take on something of the role of the famous decision of roe v. wade.

this would be hard to repeal, even if they get the white house. >> even they were saying the focus has got to move. ted cruz announced on monday his presidential company and he talked about how he said we would repeal every single word of obamacare. realistically, we're getting to a very big number of people with health insurance. the focus has got to be on what the replacement looks like and a replacement looks like in their minds, obamacare light it looks like. the idea you're going to get rid of the health insurance law and just leave people without health insurance is becoming unrealistic as these numbers get -- these numbers could be 20 million by the time the new president comes into office. it is hard to imagine a full repeal at this point. >> that's the same reason why it

is hard to imagine the supreme court court, they're looking at this argument with obamacare. >> the argument is premised in part on the idea that everyone always knew that the subsidy structure was to incentivize states to set up their own system. we decided, well let's find those instances in which everyone knew about it prior to the irs establishing its ruling that the subsidies would be universal. we looked through public records results from various states. we couldn't come up with one single instance in which the federal government told the states that the subsidies would be conditional or that the state governors and lawmakers fretted that if they didn't set up an

exchange exchange, they would lose the subsidies. it was always understood to be the case that the subsidies would be there regardless of who ran the exchange so that was a big hole in this whole theory. i will say one quick thing on the obamacare replacement. at this juncture republicans are pretty open about the fact that they're waiting for the supreme court to disqualify the subsidy regime. they can't repeal the law and not have a replacement ready. >> it wasn't about whether obamacare is good or bad. that's a political debate. you went through the evidence and said does the new conserve conservative attack on the court have any threats and it doesn't. coming up, where will the first family settle after the

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and the first family would return there but sources are reporting they're thinking of changes in the coming months. joining me now is abby huntsman and mike pesca and my last guest. >> i don't know how they just realized that chicago has messy politics just now. there's a word called gingoist. i think new york city is the best city. when rudy giuliani lived in new

york, he used to never do that. then he starts questioning obama's patriotism outside new york. the more you live in new york, the better you are relating to people. >> the subway is very crowded. >> we ride it together often. let's move to new york because the weather is to beautiful here. when you're coming out of office, there are two things that i think you're looking for. relevancy, obama continues to be the most relevant person in the world. you're also looking for privacy. finally a place you can walk around the corner and go to an italian joint. it is the perfect place where you can remain relevant. i'm sure michelle has a very interesting career of her own after this. >> the unwritten rule of celebrity sightings in new york

is you don't bother the celebrities. tourists do. i was in an italian restaurant once and jay-z was there. everybody in the place was aware that you don't run up. it is a place where big shots can hang. i want to get your response to something obama wrote about new york. he said manhattan was humming. the beauty, the filth, the noise. >> things have changed. if obama moves here things have changed. i'm happy to offer myself as a tour guide to find good italian restaurants. i want to help the obamas. i think they should move here. i think it is a great city.

their oldest daughter will be in college. the youngest will be in high school. >> there's always the subway you can ride. >> i love when it comes to full circle. moving on, a congresswoman speaking out about her botched parking job outside the capital on wednesday. this went sort of viral. she was late for an interview in an area where she doesn't normally park. >> don't worry. i have signed up for parking lessons. >> she's trying to come around and have fun for this. the video does show it was real bad. >> it is a niche interest group, those video enthusiasts. what i found interesting was this were very much criticizing the 45 degree angle she parked

at. if new york is a place you don't tweet that jay-z is in your bis bistro -- she just parked bad. >> is there something relatable here? >> i love this video. i'm not a very good driver. the one test i failed in the driving test was parallel parking. it's a difficult thing to do. if you have spent time driving around d.c. parking can be challenging. directioning ings can be challenging. i think it makes her look human. >> we need to get her a vespa. i would rather see members of congress park badly than turn medicare into a voucher program. i'm not back and forth. i applaud her more than the

republicans and the house and senate for what they just passed. >> i feel like you brought some policy to this friday hangout session. illinois congressman aaron schock gave his farewell speech on the house floor yesterday. >> abraham lincoln held this seat in congress for one term but few faced as many defeats in his personal business and public life as he did. we learn from our mistakes and we learn more about ourselves. >> mike? >> they both had ripped abs. >> do we know that for a fact? >> historical record shows. we always focus on the stovepipe hat.

schock, for all of his foolish mistakes, i think the big sin he created -- the big sin committed was everyone in washington politics -- his self-regard was for how he looked. washington is supposed to be hollywood for ugly people. they hated that fact. they wanted to get him. >> i hadn't thought about that. mike is basically saying it's okay to be egotistical in the congress about how many bills you have passed. they talk about that all the time, but i've been working this long. i cosponsored this many bills. but his type was not accepted. >> you can't be good looking. >> we know about that discrimination. >> it's a hard life. it's tough. what he did was embarrassing and it's exactly what's wrong with politics today. if you look back at lincoln and his history, he did fail a number of times. he failed in business twice. he lost five elections before becoming the president of the

united states. what is life worth if we can't believe that people can better themselves and they can learn from past mistakes? obviously what he did was terrible and he should be out of office, but i hope he learns something with this and do something else with his life. he can make a difference. >> i think that is a beautiful spirit you're speaking to. it is the american spirit. he is young. hopefully he can do more productive things. one way aaron schock is like abraham lincoln. lincoln got in trouble for claiming $677 for his mileage. that would be 18k today. this was during lincoln's very first house term. thank you for hanging out a little bit. you can catch abby on a show

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conclusion to this or do they send it back to another appeal or do they confirm these guilty verdicts? we're looking like it could go late into the night now or maybe even until tomorrow. what happens next once this conclusion is reached? if it does not go back to appeal and they confirm the guilty verdicts, then amanda knox would have an extradition battle on her hands. many legal experts definitely think it would be a battle to get her back to italy to get her to serve her time here if she is convicted. if they do move to do this, they will need to probably wait until the motivation for the verdict comes out. the judges will have several weeks probably to write a long document that says how they came to this decision and the authorities would probably wait for this to come out before they then took it to the united states to ask so that they have all the facts and they can have

a stronger case to move to extradite here. many legal experts say it is not a guaranteed thing, a lot of questions need to be answers. a lot of legal experts are saying it is not a definite move if she is still convict. they could decide to send it back to yet another appeal where she could have another chance to clear her name in this brutal killing. coming up rocket men mark kelly calls in where he just watched his brother take off for a yearlong trip to space. that's next.

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long-term space flight on humans. a a astroe a astronauts will spend a full year in space. his identical brother mark will undergo the same physical testing here on earth. joining me now by phone from kazakhstan, captain mark kelly. good day to you. how are you feeling? >> well i'm feeling great. i didn't just launch in a rocket though so for me watching from the steps of kazakhstan, it was pretty incredible to see my brother blast off into space on his

fourth mission and it's going to be a long one. >> you say long. going up to a year as we mentioned, breaking records. do you have concerns about his health and well being over the long haul? >> it is. we don't quite understand you know long space flight really well. we have data out to six months. who knows at the nine-month ten-month point what happens to bone mass and radiation? this is my brother so it is kind of a big deal. >> when you think about your role in this what do you think we learn from the testing they will do on you here on earth? >> well after nasa assigned my brother for this one-year flight, they wounds up up in the unique position of me as his twin brother -- i have flown in

space. they can compare us. our physiology is very similar. we have similar genetics. i'm a pretty good control for the experiment in space. >> and when you look at this in the context of a space flight to mars, what is important here? what are you hopeful for? >> we know pretty well the engineering we're going to need and what we'd have to do to send people to mars but we don't know the effect of the physiology on the body. we don't have enough information to send people to mars and get them back safely. the space environment is incredibly unforgiving and hazardous, so we need a lot more data and this is one step in getting that data. >> your brother has been in the air for just over an hour and ten minutes. from your experience what is he

doing and feeling right now? what's going on with him? >> well in about 20 minutes they should be flying pretty much kind of overhead kazakhstan kazakhstan. if there was sun shining, you might be able to see it. they're getting ready to rendezvous where the international space station. they're going to do that in about four hours. they're going to dock and meet their other crew members in flight and that's going to be their home for a year. >> when you have done these kind of flights before is it scary? because watching it is hard to imagine just jetting out of the earth like that. >> it is a lot of fun. you realize it's dangerous and it's risky, but you're prepared. i flew four times on the space

shuttle. it is just an incredible experience. i'm very grateful toward having that opportunity. >> captain mark kelly, a big day for you, your family, the space program, and science. thank you so much for joining us. that is our show for today. alex wagner will be back monday. i'm ari melber. you can find me on "the cycle." "the ed show" is up next. good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show" live from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work. tonight, discrimination and religious freedom. >> if i thought it was about discrimination, i wouldn't have done it. >> we will defend the united states of america. plus harry reid calls it quits. >> don't be too elated. i'm