to. "now" with alex wagner starts right now. we are hours away from the deadline on a possible iranian nuclear agreement. andreas lubitz has a history of depression. and the new host of "the daily show" has already made the evening news but not the way he was hoping for. it's tuesday, march 31st and this is "now." >> the fall out from this is growing. >> whose state? >> our state. >> whose state? >> our state. >> this law does not give anyone a license to deny services to gay and lesbian couples. look, i could have handled that better this weekend. >> the governor is not a stupid man, but he's done stupid things. >> ahead of apple calling it dangerous, the head of marriott

hotels calling it idiocy. >> it's time to quit defending it and let's fix it and playoffmove on. >> we need to repeal the statute and repeal it promptly. >> just hours ago, new york governor andrew cuomo became the latest public official to ban all nonessential public travel to the state of indiana because of that state's so-called religious freedom act. washington and connecticut have issued similar bans in the past 24 hours. today in an effort to slow the steady stream of outrage, mike pence announced a legislative fix. >> the religious freedom restoration act was about religious liberty, not about discrimination. this law does not give anyone a license to discriminate. the religious freedom restoration act in indiana does not anyone the right to deny

services to anyone in this state. i believe this is a clarification, but it's also a fix. >> so the law doesn't give anyone a license to discriminate, but it needs to be fixed so that it doesn't give anyone the license to discriminate. what? if you want to understand the genesis and the intent of indiana's law, look no further than this picture. this is governor pence signing the religious freedom act last thursday. he is surrounded by a group of lobbyists who helped write the law. this is curt smith. he heads the indiana family institute. smith claims the gay community has no life beyond quote, absorption with narcissistic sex, and he helped write the bill. this is micah clarke. he believes homosexuality is a, quote, treatable disorder.

just last fall clarke said opponents of marriage equality needs to shift their views. finally, standing directly behind the governor is a man named eric miller. he heads the powerful anti-gay group advance america. their website states if the act doesn't protect individuals, christian businesses and churches from those, we will protect them. advance america offers this. christian bakers florists, and photographers should not be punished for refusing to participate in a homosexual marriage. but hey. >> the religious freedom

restoration act was about religious liberty. not about discrimination. >> joining me now is the ceo of glaad and tim lannon. are you in support of governor pence's efforts? are you confident that they will offer protections to the lgbt community? >> well thank you very much for having me on the show first of all. i listened to the governor's comments and i'm not at all satisfied that this would be a fix. it's certainly not going to be a fix that will please many within that community. and we have proposed what we think is the action that needs to be taken. we have asked for a repeal of the current refra and whether or not he's willing to do that we

think it should be considered, but at a minimum, we need to amend the indiana civil rights act to state that the sexual orientation should be a protected class. and until we have that, i think there's going to be doubts about what is the status of the act and the policy of the state of the indiana. our policy should be clear that discrimination is wrong. >> there's an opportunity to do something good and move the ball forward in terms of equality and ensure that lgbt residents of the state are protected. in 2000 mike pence says congress should oppose any effort to recognize homosexuals as a discreet and insular minority entitled to the

protection of anti-discrimination laws. how likely is it he will take the opportunity to right the wrongs? >> i think he has a mandate to. i think the people have spoken around the country. i think businesses have spoken celebrities have spoken and the people of indiana have spoken in and around the country. it's obvious that he needs to do something to right this wrong and that he overstepped here. >> for people who don't understand the harassment, 2the threats, why is it important that they get protections like some ethnic minorities and women? >> i think any marginalized group can be treated less than. putting that into law a practice, it creates a culture that's very dangerous. people that are lgbt could be

refused treatment from people who are doctors and police officers. it is a very dangerous step to take. >> i want to bring in the political columnist matthew tully. it's been really interesting to watch the blowback on this. the criticism that governor pence has received nationally. your paper came out very firmly against this law. tell me about the decision making at the editorial board or inside the halls of "the star." >> sure. thank you. over the course of the past week it has just become clear that this has damaged our state in a way we haven't seen in a long tile,me, if ever. it is going to cost people jobs for a city that relies on that kind of thing. it's very damaging. then when you look beyond that the state's image has just taken

a hit that it's going to take a long time to recover from. we decided to step back and just demand a fix. i think every reasonable person in the state knows whatever your position on any of these issues are, everybody in the state realizes this is far too damaging for indiana. >> how divided are constituents in indiana? from the folks inside the state, the folks that you have talked to, the folks in the indiana republican party, what's the level of division over this? >> yes, there is some division but there's been so much evolving on this issue throughout indiana that i agree with what the previous commentator said that most people in the state of indiana think discrimination is wrong. let's amendment this civil

rights act. let's put sexual orientation in as a protected class and i think would you would have the support of the people of the state of indiana. >> the genesis, the development, the evolution, or def lugs of the freereligious freedom act, it was set off by a case involving indians that were fired because they were taking part ceremonies using peyote. this is where they're going try to litigate and gain some ground. >> i think religious freedom has been used to mask bigotry, actually. i think what we're experiencing in indiana is there are no

protections for lgbt people. it's leaving us open to a lot of discrimination and potentially a lot of danger. i think it is a little bit different. it's much broader and far sweeping than in the past. >> matthew, on the republican side of the aisle, seeing as you are an expert on indiana politics, how much consternation is there inside that party over the weekend? >> the ceo of angie's list backed out of expansion plans in indiana and tied it to this bill. the head of angie's list was mitch daniel's campaign manager just ten years ago. the republican party has this argument ten years ago and they had a choice between a social conservative and a business conservative. they went with a business conservative.

a lot of people who supported mitch daniels financial and otherwise are speaking out very loudly. a lot of them are republicans. there is some division. quite honestly there's a small group that seems to be very vocal on this issue, but for the most part there was very little push for this. the three lobbyists you mentioned at the beginning, they truly were driving this. there wasn't this upswell of support for this bill. it was being pushed from within a small group of the party. >> if there was just a small group of lobbyists who were the drivers behind this bill how did it get passed? tim? >> it passed because i think within the republican caucus there is an unduly amount of sway that those individuals hold. the evangelical wing of the

party does hold a lot of clout. unfortunately, it's brought us into this terrible situation. we need to set those interest groups goals aside and do what's right for the state of indiana, and that is to take this bold action in amending our indiana civil rights act. >> in a matter of 24 hours, major organizations, major corporations, you don't necessarily think of getting involved in this kind of issue, were unstinting in there criticism. >> what we're seeing is a tidal wave change in america. people want equality. they want people to be inclusive. business owners know in order to get the best talent you have to be inclusive and diverse. it's how you get the best talent. it's how you stay competitive.

having those business leaders speak out, they can lead the politicians. there have been a number of politicians that have spoken out, especially cuomo today. the country is moving to equality and wants to be an equal place and wants to give everybody a shot at the american dream and that doesn't. >> thank you guys all for your time. >> thank you alex. coming up after the break as indiana republicans try to fix a troubled law, what does it mean for republican 2016 contenders who have rushed to defend it? seven nations are still trying to hammer out a nuclear agreement. did they miss warning signs of lubitz' depression? that is just ahead on "now."

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as governor mike pence vows to boldly address the, quote, perception that indiana's religious freedom law discriminates, one of the likely 2016 presidential contenders who rushed in to back that law, surprising absolutely no one. those perceived as 2016 moderates, jeb bush and marco rubio, have jumped on board the band wagon of religious liberty. rand paul has not commented on the indiana law, but he's facing renewed scrutiny over a 2013 interview in which he said i don't really believe in rights based on your behavior. joining me now is josh barro and

former senior adviser to president obama and director of the university of chicago institute of politics, david axelrod. are you surprised that marco rubio and jeb bush have come out in support of this? >> no. when one of your previous guests talked about the fact that the indiana republican party is in the throes of a small, but vocal group of social conservatives, the republican party has the same problem. this has been a problem that's dogged them through several election cycles and it's caused their nominees to make bargains with the right in order to become the nominee. jeb bush is testing the proposition by supporting immigration reform supporting education reform but he may feel like he is on probation, that he can't add too many bricks to that load. he's been quite conservative on some of these issues in the past in florida, and he can point to

that as a matter of consistency, but the real point is very hard to win a general election when your add your attitudes on issues like this don't reflect the majority of people in the country. they may find themselves again in 2016 in the same position where in order to win the nomination, you have to pay such a heavy toll to the right that you can't win a general election. >> 58% of millennial republicans favor same-sex marriage. they are not enthralled to the young people in their party. >> this is a separate issue from same-sex marriage. i suspect the supreme court will rule in favor of the same-sex marriage. it will be taken off the table for the campaign. >> wait a second. one can draw a sort of analog to

sort of gay rights if you're in support of gay marriage. some part of that 58% is likely in support of lgbt protections. >> i think republicans have believed their own talking points on this that this is not that important an issue, it is a small carve out. we just did see this compromise in utah with gay rights groups. >> the point of this law seems to be if you look at the three lobbyists who were standing with the governor as he signed it is really pushback on the notion of gay rights. >> i think there are a lot of people in the republican party who are relative moderates on these issues who believe you can have a resolution of this gay rights debate that involves protections and carveouts for people's sincere religious objections. i think that's when they see the backlash towards this they view

it as an overreaction. it's a lack of perspective and it reflects the fact that this isn't a compromise. if it was a utah style deal, we could talk about who is getting a good deal out of it. as part of a broader deal it wouldn't have to be this anathma kind of thing. they want the business community to stop yelling at them. >> right. >> jeb will be able to say look, see they clarified it and it will all be fine. >> i wonder if you can unring the bell. if you are a republican party that is trying to appeal to minorities and young voters and lgbt voters across the country, if your party is supporting

legislation like this across the country, is that enough to convince gay voters or is itcan you bring young people and brown people and minorities into the tent once you have passed laws like this once you have come out in support of them at the state level? >> i think this is particularly important to younger voters. there maybe some in the minority community that gravitate toward this position. i don't know. you have a war within the republican party that's been going on for sometime and it's more visible between the business-oriented right and the republican tea party republicans. how that resolves will i think,

speak to their viability as a party in 2016. the center right republicans don't want these issues to be in the forefront, don't believe this is the way the party should go, but the activists are on the other side of the debate and it's going to be a very, very, i think, one of the great stories of 2016 is how the republican party resolves this and if they resolve it or do they send their candidate into the general election carrying all of this baggage that says to voters they want to add to their rolls that they're simply not for them? >> some issues appear to divide the republican party more steeply than others. chris christie did not appear to experience any meaningful backlash even though he signed a 20-week abortion ban yesterday. >> endorsed. >> women's issues do not seem to

divide the party the way this issue does. >> a 20-week abortion ban is popular within the electorate. it is a different issue from gay rights. you have had this huge generational shift on gay rights. the politics of abortion has stayed about the same for 40 years in terms of the polling. certain restrictions are popular. certain restrictions are unpopular. a 20-week position is a moderate take. christie has taken that position. he is broadly pro-life. >> mike pence is not particularly interested in lgbt rights. david, do you think these are issues for -- that this is an

issue for chris christie? david? >> i'm sorry. i don't think it's going to be an issue for him obviously within the republican primary electorate. josh points out in terms of moving forward, were he the nominee for the republican party, this has been his position throughout. he's always been a pro-life anti-choice candidate. >> josh barro and david axelrod, it is always good to see you guys. thank you for your time. coming up with iranian nuclear talks continuing past tonight's deadline negotiators may be giving peace a chance but what happens if the talks fail? more on that coming up next. se asked people a simple question: in retirement, will you have enough money to live life on your terms?

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the size and shape of their children's brains. secrecy is not the answer when it comes to officer involved shootings and the lamas whose dash for freedom broke the internet they are now retired from public life due to new usda orders. yesterday trevor noah met great fanfare when he was announced as the next "daily show" host. here's this one from 2010. south africa knows how to recycle like israel knows how to be peaceful. or this one from 2012 oh yeah the weekend. people are going to get drunk and think that i'm sexy, which was credited to fat chicks everywhere. and from last year, behind every successful rap billionaire is a double as rich jewish man.

comedy central released a statement defending its new host. like many comedians, trevor noah pushes boundaries. to judge him or his comedy based on a handful of jokes is unfair. he is a talented comedian with a bright future at comedy central. joining me now is wendell pierce and joan walsh and author of "where you go is not where you'll be" frank brunny. how much of an issue is this for comedy central? >> i don't think we hold kmeed comedians to the same standards as we do other people. i think twitter with its 140 characters and the competition

to be noticed leads people to go further than they would in any other format. the moral of the story is the enticement and danger of twitter. >> up there on the offense scale is most of the stuff isn't that funny. if he's the host of "the daily show," last year that beats by dreidel joke was really bad. >> it was great he didn't just hand it over to another white man. no offense, frank. >> none taken. >> he is very interesting on race, but it is very dis disappointing. when in doubt, just resort to the lowest common denominator. >> also jewish women. >> oh, yeah. >> i think lesbians got a couple

of jokes. >> come on dude really? this is the best you can do? >> there's the visceral reaction that i have which is, it is very cringe worthy. you're going to be speaking to the most intelligent in the audience and not the least common denominator. but if comedians want to be pushing the boundaries expect to have some pushback. and the fact is we have the right, everyone has the right, to be offended. we should never lose the right to be offended. >> yes. >> that keeps the checks and balances. >> it is a right, right? >> if we judge comedians by the same standard as politicians, we're going to decide as a culture we're over comedy. we can't have it. >> when jon stewart announced his retirement, it was we're losing one of the great newsman

and jon stewart was like i'm not a newsman. don't hold me to that standard. >> there's no reason to believe that twitter personality is going to follow him into the comedy central chair. >> okay. the last word on trevor noah. arizona's governor vetoed a bill that would have kept police officer's names involved in shootings secret for 180 days. it wasn't that families of victims need to know. it was the wrong officer's name could circulate. speculation replaces fact and a police chief could not actually put out the name of the real perpetrator or officer. protectively focused on the police rather than victims.

>> it was very officer centric for sure. we're at a point in history where i'm really relieved when any republican does the right thing for whatever reason on the issue of police brutality. maybe he felt he had to frame it in that way. it was a terrible law. we're all happy that it's gone. >> it's amazing that the argument was if you start releasing officers' names, it's going to really kplicomplicate their job of policing. it's going to make everything a lot more sensitive. shouldn't the prospect of killing an innocent person sensitize you? >> he's losing what the goal should be. he has a misguided idea of what it all should be focused on which is making sure the two can coexist. you have have good policing and not kill innocent people and not overreact and have transparency.

it's the same argument of those against cameras. the video can be taken of context. the scary thing about it is officers can turn them off. he's losing sight of the fact that it is the protection of those that the police are trying to protect that they have to uphold. >> to serve and protect. they are serving the public. frank, do you believe like policing is now a partisan issue? there's been trend lines to each side of the aisle, but i feel it is on the cusp of becoming a republican issue. >> i think it is becoming partisan. you have people who feel like we're beating up too much on police officers and we're not giving them the latitude they need and the trust they need. you have the other people saying they're not earning the trust of the communities they serve. this is not the last we're going to have hear of a law like this one or ones that try to shield

police officers. >> especially when you have focused on minority communities and another that's not as accountable to other communities. a new study published in the journal nature neuroscience it finds a direct correlation between parental wealth and the size of their children's brains. frank says that many of these same parents -- wealthy parents are also responsible for the college admissions mania that's sweeping the country. some parents are simply trying to flatter themselves. there are many levels of this i find fascinating. >> i'm not going to name the ivy league school, but i was told

about a school whose main store sells a sweatshirt that says school's name parent. fill in the blank. that tells you everything you need to know about what it means to have that parent at that school. they're trying to go to the cocktail party and say, my kid got into. >> what is it different now? why is it? >> as somebody who proudly went to the university of wisconsin, i'm with frank mostly on this issue. we have this situation where the rich get richer and the push for status symbols gets ever more competitive, so you can't just get into one of the great public universities. it's got to be an ivy league. then you're ted cruz. you don't study with the people -- >> parents feel correctly to fall on the wrong side of that divide that the difference between the haves and the have not

nots is bigger than ever. so if there's anything you can do to let your kid land among the haves, you're going to do it. >> the more people have opportunity, more people have access to education, there's going to be greater ideas. there's going to be growth in economics, ideas, intellectualism intellectualism. we started in capitalism of the 80s. there's a finite amount of wealth and opportunity and branding. i have to protect my kids and have mine. there was a time and it still should be this way that places like city college is a great school. >> you might actually get a better education by virtue of

not just the teachers, but the student body. >> you might be in an arena that's less crowded by overachievers. i interview lots of successful people in the book about college and the one thing they all have in common is how they spent their time in college. it was an attitude a drive, and a character. >> if we are trying to have a more educated benevolent society -- >> we're not. >> if i would like one, there is something to be said about talking to people who are different than you and have different experiences and know different things about the world. >> i'm a huge fan of state universities for that reason. part of being educated is learning how to navigate a diverse world. and if you're going to an enclave where everyone is from a

background of privilege, you're depriving yourself from a meaningful life of experience and a tool for the future. >> going to an exclusive elite school to try to navigate the world that you hope to be a part of because there's no diversity, income equality. you want to get there so you can access folks that you probably won't run into normally. i did go to juliard. i knew that brand was going to get me in the door. >> i would never tell a first generation student that it really doesn't matter where you go because you don't have the social capital. >> if you're going to lean on your college name well into the future, it is going to end up hurting you. if you're talking about your college name ten years from graduation, nobody wants to sit

with you. >> badgers, final four. >> we could talk about this for the rest of the hour. thank you. frank's book "where you go is not who you'll be" is on shelves now. what led to the fatal shooting outside the nsa yesterday. that's ahead on "now."

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new details have emerged today about germanwings flight 9525 and co-pilot andreas lubitz. lufthansa says it knew of lubitz's depression. he was treated for suicidal tendencies but putting the spotlight on his mental illness may have unintended consequences. the intense focus has raised concerns that it risks unfairly stigmatizing people with mental disorders and making it less likely they will seek treatment. doctor, do you concur with "the new york times" suggestion that

this focus on mental illness might make the treatment of at-risk individuals harder? >> yes i don't disagree with that notion. i was working with pilots who would come to my office and would state they were a pilot but didn't want anything disclosed because they would be grounded from flying so i think that's a possibility. >> what was the threshold for you as far as what should be between you and a patient and at what point you need to inform the faa of something? >> the typical psychiatrist is always trying to balance that right between patient privacy and protecting the public. in this case for example, there will be litigation about it and i think a court will have to decide whether or not, for example, in this case if there

should have been warnings to more higher-ups. in the united states there are strict regulations about what kind of illnesses pilots can or cannot fly with, what kind of medications they can take. >> go ahead. >> since i do work with the faa, i feel i have an ethical obligation if a pilot were to come in and indicate they had a problematic psychiatric condition that i felt warranted their notification. >> it's also hard to just identify who actually is a suicide risk. in the case of andreas lubitz it was a suicide-homicide here. i wonder from your perspective, perspective --perspective, perspective -- it sounds like that's extremely rare. tell me about the confluence of those two things.

>> very often, psychiatrists deal with people who have suicidal ideation or plan. they'll tell you that they are sort of trying to be clean about it in some ways. for example, that's why some people commit suicide in motels to keep it away from family or to keep the mess at home to a minimum or to do things that might otherwise mitigate the horror of it. when you take other people down with you, that lends itself to something different. it raises clinical questions. >> thank you for your time. >> my pleasure. coming up a wrong turn proves deadly. surprising new details about yesterday's nsa shooting. that's next. well, i just have a few other questions.

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brought to you yesterday. new reports indicate that what appeared to have an attempted security breach in nsa head quarters may have been a wrong turn that turned deadly. it began with an overnight tryst with three men, two dressed as women. the cross-drivers stole the third man's car. they made a wrong turn. police suspect the men may have ignored commands to stop because they were in possession of drugs. they do not believe the incident was a planned security breach nor was it an attack. that is all for "now." good evening, americans, and welcome to "the ed show," live from detroit lakes, minnesota. let's get to work. >> was i expected this kind of

backlash? heavens no. >> tonight, indiana abdication. >> i could have handled that better this weekend. later, deadline day. >> it won't be reached today. plus the oil connection. >> iran is one of opec's largest producers. and the left's quest for a candidate. >> no. i'm not running and i'm not going to run. good to have you with us tonight, folks. thanks for watching. we start with breaking news. people in indiana, they're not alone. within the last hour the state of arkansas has passed their own religious freedom restoration bill. the bill now heads to the governor's desk and we'll bring you any developments from arkansas on this one. so the people in indiana, how are they reacting? they're calling for a full repeal of mike