clemons, steve bucci, i previous it. "politics nation" with reverend al sharpton starts right now. good evening, rev. \s. good evening, and thanks to you for tuning in. we start tonight with breaking news. indiana republican governor backing down in the fight over his state's discriminatory religious freedom law. >> i've come to the conclusion it would be helpful to move legislation this week that makes it clear that this law does not give businesses a right to deny services to anyone. i'd like to see on my desk before the end of this week legislation that is added to the religious freedom restoration act in indiana that makes it clear this law does not allow refusing services to anyone. he refused to say it would let businesses deny services to

gay customers. >> i was proud to sign the religious freedom restoration act last week. this law does not give anyone a license to discriminate. this law does not give anyone a license to deny services to gay and lesbian couples. the religious freedom restoration act was about religious liberty, not about discrimination. >> wait a minute. if there's nothing wrong with the law, then why fix it? if this law isn't about discrimination why change it? the governor's position makes no sense. he wants to have it both ways. change the law, but not admit it was wrong. sorry, governor the whole country knows this law was discriminatory. big businesses from gap to apple said so. some of the biggest names in politics entertainment and

sports slammed it. other states and cities banned official travel to indiana because of it. and just look at the front page of today's "indianapolis star." "fix this now." governor pence couldn't ignore this backlash but this fight has exposed how some of the biggest names on the right, including many gop presidential candidates, are standing on the wrong side of history and public opinion. joining me now is indiana's democratic leader in the state senate tim lannen and "chicago tribune" columnist clarence page. thank you both for being here. >> glad to be here. >> thank you, reverend. senator. >> you want today you're still disappointed in the governor. why?

>> well everybody he was supposed to be announcing a fix, but i didn't hear a fix. this bill is completely flawed. our advice to him and to the republicans on the other side of the aisle has been we need to do two things. we need to repeal this bill and need to move to protect the members of the lbgt community. now we've learned there's a vacuum in the law in the state of indiana. i agreed with the governor in one respect. he said repeatedly hoosiers do not want to discriminate they do not believe in discrimination, and he doesn't support drip assassinating. well if you don't support discrimination, you should support amending or indiana civil rights act to make that very clear that applies to members of the lbgt community as well. >> you know clarence page

there's a long tradition of using the religion using to discriminate. from jim crow laws to fighting women's rights. i also talked about it on the show last night. >> that's right. i remember it well too, reverend, better than you, in fact, because i'm older than you, but it's -- i this think back to how it wasn't that long good that the -- defending slavery for so long of a period and then not speaking up on the right side of the whole jim crow question. and so i i feel like -- for discriminating against gales and lesbians. that's also what has turned public opinion now in recent years in favor of laws to protect their rights, the same as everybody else's and why governor pence and other republicans across the country are feeling the heat now, feeling defensive about

supporting laws that allow people the right using religion as an excuse. >> that was my point. we've seen religion misused before, senator, and as i mentioned -- fox news said i called the indiana law racist and asked governor pence for his response. i want to play that. >> we just ran a sound bite from al sharpton that suggested that the law is racist as well. what do you say to your critics who are interpreting your good intentions this way. >> with regard to that claim, let me say five years ago my wife, my children and i walked around the edmund pettus bridge with john lewis when i cochaired the pilgrimage. i abhor discrimination. i can tell you from my heart, if

i was in a restaurant and saw a business owner deny services to someone because they were gay, i wouldn't eat there anymore. >> now, senator, first of all, i referred to where they use religion and race and with women and with other things. fox, of course just cuts it down so they can make it look -- and i'm glad the governor marched in selma. i'm glad he and his family went but that does not answer the fact that and if you're allow the to discrimination negates -- then you can discriminate against everyone. >> we certainly don't want that in the state of indiana. i take the governor at his word when he says he does not want to discriminate. i don't believe that anyone actually except in the very small minority of people intentionally want to discriminate against people here

in the united states. we need to prove that. we need to send a bold message to the world that in indiana, we do not abide by discrimination. we can do that by the two-step process i talked about, the repeal of this law, which has caused so many problems and then protecting making sure that we protect every person. we have a civil rights act now, which does cover, of course race religion covers other aspects, but it does not cover the lbgt community. we need to show make a bold statement that in indiana we will not abide for any person to be discriminated against. >> to have a law on the books that lets discrimination go that's not checked by civil rights law as some lots have done and others in different states, this sets a dangerous precedent that anybody that believes in civil rights and

social justice has to take the position that apple and many others have taken in indiana we certainly see arkansas just this week their legislature moving towards passing the same kind of bill indiana is trying to tiptoe away from but at the same time, though we're seeing a more galvanized opposition ever mayor rahm emanuel in chicago has invited indiana businesses, come up here same thing with terry mcauliffe. this is miles different from back in 2004 you remember when democrats were so defensive about the gay marriage question and the bush campaign -- >> i remember i was in that campaign. >> right. let me ask you this clarence talking about to 04 and i want to come back to you, senator, before we run out of time. i mean one of the things that was very alarming was the

enough better the possible presidential candidates that came out in support of the law. listen to this. >> i think governor pence has done the right thing. once the facts are established, people aren't going to see this as discriminatory at all. >> see, the issue we're talking about here is someone who provides a professional service be punished by the law, because they refuse to provide that professional service to a ceremony that they believe is in violation of their faith. i believe people have -- they can't impose it on you in your life, but they have the right to live it out in their own lives. >> i mean clarence how could this be good politically for them? >> well they want to reach those conservative church folks, the same folks that george bush was trying to reach back in 2004, but it looks like they're living in the past because whoever gets the nomination is going to have a lot of explaining to do in the november campaign against the democrats who probably will be led by

hillary clinton, so we'll see what happens. >> senator, how do you fix this? i mean first of all, no one's talking about making anyone do something that their religion forbids forbids, but you can't have a business and enjoy things like sanitation from state workers and protection from police and all, enjoy all the benefits of everybody but you can decide you do not want those people in your business. you can't have it both ways. how do you fix this? the governor said this was like what other says -- it is not. they designed things that dealt with the state. this is the first law that deals with letting a private business decide whether one is -- doing something against my religion. this is not lookic what bill clinton and others signed. >> that's exactly right. that's a very important distinction. our law is so broad. it's overly broad. as you pointed out, it basically

applies to -- defines a person as being almost any big entity so that does raise the specter of now, can businesses assert some right to religious freedom to discriminate against somebody? well, we don't want that. indiana is a great state, we have friendly people we want everyone to be welcomed in our state. we had need to -- certainly i think the best way to proceed is to simply repeal the law, but to clarify, if you're going to do that fine you have to make it crystal clear exactly that it's not too broad, and that it will not allow for discrimination but it's essential that you amendment your indiana civil rights act to include protection for the members of the lbgt community, and confirm the believe that discrimination is noo wrong, no matter who it is against. that's the way to send a bold message. >> indiana state senator tim

lanane, and clarnence page thank you both. down to the wire. what can we expect from the 11th hour talks on the future of iran's nuclear program? also tonight, high drama in court, as the patriots' owner robert kraft it was in the aaron hernandez murder trial. plus the new "daily show" host under fire for controversial tweets. he just responded. what is bill clinton saying about the "house of cards"? we'll talk about it all ahead, please stay with us. bring us your aching... and sleep deprived. bring us those who want to feel well rested and ready to enjoy the morning ahead. aleve pm. the first to combine a sleep aid... plus the 12 hour pain relieving strength of aleve.

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now negotiators from the u.s. and five other countries are pushing forward, trying to hammer out a deal with iran. a big question now -- how much time do they have? tonight's deadline was self-imposed, but with negotiators hoping for a framework for final agreement in june. that's when the current agreement with iran expires. the stakes are high. a deal could mean new long-term limits on iran's nuclear program in return for lifted sanctions and hopefully a more stable middle east. now let's bring in ambassador john lambert. he served as deputy assistant secretary of state for iran in the obama administration. and in 1979 he was among the 52 americans held captives in the

iranian hostage crisis. thank you for being here, ambassador. >> thank you for inviting me reverend. >> ambassador what do you make of this extension? is that a good -- >> well they've been talking since november 2003 and actually long before that. i mean, what it tells me is that we need to step back a bit, take a deal bring, and remember these negotiation are going to be hard. we're overcoming 36 years of hostility between our two -- between our two countries. this is not easy to do. there's a lot of distrust. there's a lot of hostility. if it takes another day, another week to get to an agreement to break down this hostility somewhat, so be it. >> ambassador the remaining sticking points reportedly include how to store iran's

stockpiles, the future of iran 'nuclear research and development program, and the speed and scope that sanctions would be lifted on iran. how different could these issues be to work out? >> they are complicated. but that's what negotiation is about. negotiation means that you reach sometimes imperfect deals with dubious partners whom you neither like nor trust completely. that's what this is about. the people doing this there's some very smart, very well-educated technical people on both sides. this probably would have been solved months ago, but obviously it's the politics that have made this so very complicated. >> talking about the politics a

new poll shows americans would support a deal that lived sanctions while imposing new restrictions on iran's nuclear program. 59% support that idea 31% oppose it. how does domestic opinion here at home figure into the high-level talks over there? >> i think it matters, because people realize look we've 30 34, 35 years of trading insults, threats, of accusations, and it hasn't changed much. there's been no outcome. so remember the president himself, when he was still a candidate back in 2008 suggested we need to do something different, something better. the shunt isn't do you like the islamic represcribe? do you like the islamic republic? the question is what's in the

interests of the american public? >> what's going to happen tomorrow? you were a foreign service officer stationed in iran when you were taken hostage with 51 others. now you have really tried to see this make some progress. what's going to happen tomorrow? >> every time i've maid a prediction about iran the last 30, 40 years, i've usually been wrong, but they have to keep at it. as i mentioned, this is difficult stuff. the key is patience and persistence. you're not going to overcome in mistrue with two meetings one phone call. perhaps the best sign is that they signed this interim agreement back in november of

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it's time for "the justice files." joins me is eric guster and host of "judge faith." faith jenkins. we start with drama in the aaron hernandez murder trial. her nance and two other american are accused of killing semiproathlete odin lloyd in 2013. hernandez pleaded not guilty. talking about the relationship and what happened after he found on the hernandez may be a suspect. >> i understood there was an incident that had transpired. i wanted to know whether he was involved and if he was, you know i wanted to make sure -- he's part -- any player who comes into our system i consider part of our extended family and

i wanted to get him help. >> when you and aaron saw each other, you would have a special greeting? >> yes. >> what is that? >> he would hug and kiss me. he revealed details of a private conversation two days after lloyd died. >> you asked aaron to look you in the eye, didn't you? >> yes. >> he did, didn't he? >> yes. >> you asked him if he was involved, and he said no. >> that's correct. and you wanted him to be straight with you, didn't you? >> yes. >> and you wanted to be straight with him, correct? >> yes. >> and you told him you would support him, didn't you? >> yes.

and aaron told you he had nothing to do with this, senateisn't that right? >> he said he was innocent. >> this comes after hernandez' fiancee took the stand after striking a deal with prosecutors for immunity. faith, pretty dramatic with bob kraft on the stand. the prosecution called him, but could the testimony help the defense? >> yes, i think both the prosecutor and the defense scored point with bob kraft's testimony. they used the testimony to really paint a different picture. the prosecutor saying he's a cold-blooded killer. most people on the jury know who he is. he's saying he considered aaron hernandez to be a part of his extended family. every time he saw him he was greeted with a hug and kiss. this is someone he trusted with a $40 million contract. so the defense is using the testimony to paint a different picture, but the prosecutor also

scored points, when mr. testified about hernandez offering an alibi, saying he was not there, but at the club at the time odin lloyd was killed. the jury now knows that is not true. >> let me play this sound bite. >> he said he was not involved that he was innocent and that hi hoped that the time of the murder incident came out, because i believe he said he was in the club. >> now, eric the prosecutor's got to attack this because he has kraft saying that one thing, and the facts are the surveillance tape proves that hernandez was not where he told he was. >> beyond that trials are just like chess, you put up different pieces in order to get what you want.

when robert kraft testified, he said aaron said i i hope i was at the club. if your friend was killed why are you trying to justify why you weren't involved in it? that doesn't make sense. >> it makes perfect sense. he wants to keep his job. he has a $40 million contract. he's telling the or he was at the club. >> he said i hoped, but that shows he's trying to come up with a defense already. >> let me move on to another part of the drama. there's an image of his fiancee that's really critical to prosecutors. they think the murder weapon is inside this bag you see her throwing away. but listen to what she said when her fiance's lawyers asked about the bag. listen to this. >> as you were taking that box out. did you smell anything? >> i did. >> what did you smell?

>> sort of like a skunky smell. >> did you recognize it? >> i did. >> what did you smell it to be? >> marijuana. >> prosecutors jumped in so say she did not did not see what was in the bag, but maybe they were getting rid of this because there were drugs in the house. >> cheyenna jenkins did not say in her previous testimony that it smelled like drugs or anything like that. it was almost a ballshell dropped by the defense with the prosecution witness. >> it had to have caused some kind of i'm sure tension. >> i think it could be a plausible explanation, right? the prosecutors are the one that put forth that aaron hernandez and his friend smoked a lot of marijuana together that he knows if he's caught smoking weed he

could lose the contract so it could be he's saying hey, if the police are going to search my house get rid of this -- she has no credibility. she's testified i didn't ask, i didn't know and said i dumped it in a dumpster but i don't remember where. who believes that? does anyone actually believe that? >> i've had cases where women did things to cover for someone, and didn't ask any questions. someone is so much in love -- >> the part about the dumpster though bothers me. she knows where she dumped that bag. now she can't remember where in the world that dumpster is. >> but she was smart. she got immunity from the beginning, so she was extremely smart in how she played it even if she's trying to help aaron hernandez but saying i think this is marijuana, maybe not a gun. >> by the way, that bag weighed about 30 pounds. >> that is a big bag. >> we're going to be watching this one. this is a lot of drama, talking about getting out of trouble, men and women do crazy things

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provides a professional service be punished by the law, because they refuse to provide that professional service to a -- i think people have a right to live out their religion on you faith in their own lives. >> ted cruz said he was, quote, proud to stand with pence. angela, what can this mean politically for 2016? >> it sounds like we have regressed several years, rev. i think when you think about how rand paul answered rachel maddow with this question just a few years bag, it sounds like the answers all over against, whether a private business should be able to discriminate. whether you're talking about people of color, or people who have a different sexual orientation, discrimination is discrimination, and we have to put our feet down. i think there are probably even folks in the republican party that wouldn't support this type of rhetoric at this time in our nation's history.

it's really unfortunate that so many of the 2016 candidates and potential contenders would even be on this base. we constantly refer back to the gop autopsy report and again they're way off message and again their policies are way off base. >> john? >> it means the best these guys can hope for in 201 is redistrict the koch brothers' wealth reverend. the fact of the matter is this is not the same about ilthat president clinton signed it's not remotely christians. there's nothing in the gospels. jesus never mentioned that. he was against the death penalty, never mentioned gay folks. it shows how far we have come as a species and society in the past 30 years that the overwhelming numbers of americans, including our conservative brothers and sisters are kind of disgusted by this law. it's great to know that jeb bush supports this bill that governor pence is already backing off on.

>> are we fighting theocracies around the world? how do we come to indiana and decide we're going to have -- >> that's the greatest hypocrisy with the republican party. they just want to give businesses the freedom to discriminate. once you starts making exceptions, anyone can claim it's a part of their religious beliefs. it just doesn't make sense. if you look at public opinion polls out there overwhelmingly the majority of americans are actually getting on board with gay marriage. while republicans at the moment might be trying to pander to the more conservative elements it's not going to work in a general election for 2016. >> let's move on to a question people are asking all over. that is will elizabeth warren run for president in 2016? this morning she tried to put that question to bed, again.

>> are you going to run for president? >> no. i'm not running, and i'm not going to run. >> unequivocally and categorically saying i'm not running for president in 2016. >> i'm not running. i'm not running. >> i'm possibly beating a dead horse. did you ever even consider entertain the possibility of running for president? >> no. >> thanks for answering the question. >> but there are a lot of people who are still pushing hard for her to get in. a poll shows 54% would like warren to run. she might not be running, but what impact can she have? >> i think she might have a lot more impact staying put exactly where she is as a member of the senate, as a member of the senate banking committee. then she has a say over the type of lets that makes it to the

full senate floor to get voted on. you know she keeps saying she doesn't want to run. i think people maybe should back off a bit. a lot of -- when it comes to taking on the big bankses and wall street, but she doesn't know where she assistants on other issues like foreign policy. does she have what it takes to make it on a national level. i think she can carry it home in the senate without having to dilute it in a national election. >> i would like harrison ford to make another good indiana jones film. i would like the talking head to get back together and tour but america has a hard time understanding that no means no. i think her campaign would only help mrs. clinton, it could force her to move her a bit more to the left. elizabeth warren is the only one who has said the game is rigged. she'll give hillary a great convention speech no matter

what. >> angela that is part of the challenge, can hillary clinton win progressives? i asked elizabeth warren that on this show. watch this. >> a lot of progressives have questions about whether she'll be a progressive warrior. what would you say to them? >> you know i think that's what we've got to see. i want to hear what she wants to run on and what she says she wants to do. that's what campaigns are supposed to be about. >> not a resounding endorsement of hillary's credibility with progressives angela. does hillary have work to do there? >> i absolutely think she has work to do there, rev, but i think we can look at a number of steps she's made initially, some of the folks she's bringing on to run her campaign. this is a much more diverse campaign. these are people who ran progressive campaigns at the dccc, so i think she has ground to make up, but she hasn't even

launched her campaign. >> i think people would urge senator warren for senate leadership because there's appear opening with harry reid. we'll be right back with the controversy over jon stewart's replacement. and frank underwood's biggest fan. what president clinton is saying about "house of cards." ork city's first self-serve frozen yogurt franchise. and now you have 42 locations. the more i put into my business the more i get out of it. like 5x your rewards when you make select business purchases with your ink plus card from chase. and with ink, i choose how to redeem my points for things like cash or travel. how's the fro-yo? just peachy...literally. ink from chase. so you can.

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"daily show" host is under fire just hours after the announcement that south african-born trevor noah would take over for jon tour later this year. he's facing major backlash over tweets he sent in the past making jokes about jews and women, including one that read quote -- behind every successful rap billionaire is a double as rich jewish man. legality this asp comedy central released a statement standing by noah, and quote -- to reduce my views to a handful of jokes that didn't land is not a true reflection of my character thor my evolution as a comedian. john, your reaction? >> this they're going to crucify this guy for a couple jokes on twitter that didn't work then i deserve the electric chair. the fact is you cannot judge

their views or morality or soul in totality based on a few randomly selected tweets. they were lame jokes, bad jokes, they weren't jokes i would have told but it's unfair -- >> many people found them offensive. >> sure, but jon stewart, the jewish man who gave him a job didn't have a problem with it. i think the ones about women are much more problematic, to be honest, but again you have to walk a mile in a comedian's shoes to know what the life is like. it's very, very sad if some of the jokes offended people but it's not a comedian and especially not a political comedian's job to make people feel comfortable. >> angela we haven't heard from jon stewart since this came out today, but where is the line where people are offended and where you just kind of pooh-pooh it? >> a couple things one is traditionally in the black community, whether you're talking about dick gregory or

richard pry yor, comedy has used to push or try to get people to deal with harsh truths. if there's a platform that can be used -- if there's any platform that can be used it's comedy. whether they were culturally insensitive or not. i think you have to push the bug a bit to get your message across. >> alyona? >> i agree. i think the people are overreacting. that's the entire point of political comedy and satire to take it as far as you can, and push people's buttons, and make them uncomfortable. it says perhaps noah is using some really tired stereotypes in his jokes and not the best comedian comedian, so i think he has a lot to prove here to see whether or not he can kill jon stewart's shoes, but i think people are reacting or overreacting does not in any way disqualify him.

how true to life is the netflix series "house of cards"? in a new interview with" gotham" kevin spacey says former president bill clinton told him, quote -- i love that house of cards. 99% of what you do on that show is real. the 1% you get wrong is you can't never get an education bill passed that fast. for those who don't watch "house of cards," "house of cards" is a political drama chock-full of sex, violence manipulation even murder. so angela what does this say about our politics? >> first, it says i'm sitting in front of the capital just for this part rev, but in addition to that it says that billy jeff had had wrong, i love him to death, but that is dead wrong. this doesn't happen. people don't get pushed in front of metros.

it's really salacious, and maybe he was politicking, but i don't think it's anywhere near 99% accurate. >> angela, you get the last wore. we're out of time. >> sorry. >> thank you all for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> thanks rev. when we come back senator rand paul working across the aisle for criminal justice reform. that's next. en you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement, we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. constipated? .yea dulcolax tablets can cause cramps but not phillips. it has magnesium and works more naturally than stimulant laxatives. for gentle cramp free relief of occasional constipation

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no wonder more people. . . choose delta than any other airline. tonight there's growing momentum to fix our broken criminal justice system. late today president obama reduced the sentences of 22 people convicted. many of these people served years, even decades, longer than people convicted today of the same crime. and now it's bipartisan issue. this week snort rand paul teamed

up with democratic senator brian schatz to unveil a bill to help police get body cameras. lawmakers crossing the aisle to work on better policing. i'm glad to see it. it's the kind of thing i was hoping for when i met with senator paul last year. i disagree with him on virtually everything, but we have common ground on this issue. this is part of a pattern, a new bipartisan approach to criminal reform and criminal justice reform. senators booker and paul reintroduced a mandatory minimum sentencing bill earlier this months. senators durbin and lee are trying to fix federal drug sentencing law, and senator cornyn and whitehouse are working on prison reform. last week president obama talked about how democrats and

republicans realize we have to address this together. >> there is an increasing realization on the left but also on the right politically, that what we're doing is counterproductive. either from a libertarian perspective, the way we treat nonviolent crimes is problematic. from a fiscal perspective, it's breaking the banker we're all response for at least finding a solution to this. i think awareness is increasing in part because violent crime has gone down in a lot of big cities. people are more open to having a decision about this. >> our criminal justice system is broken and is going to take leaders from all sides, to get out of the their comfort zone and do what is right for all of their stids. the real test of leadership is not what you do with an

environment and a crowd that you're comfortable with. it's when you have to bend and really stretch and do something hard that we know you're a leader of the highest magnitude. thanks for watching. i'm al sharpton. "hardball" starts right now. \s. is it overtime? or sudden death? let's play "hardball." good evening, i'm kris matthews in washington. tonight, with a deadline passing, can the united states and the world keep iran from the bomb? can indiana escape the we hate gays charge? can president obama head to kenya without donald trump and the rest of the wacko birthers saying he's just heading home? we have to star with the deal with iran tonight. the b