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picks on facebook/a facebook/a facebook/all facebook/allinwithchris. good night. >> good evening. thanks to you at home for joining us for the next hour. i'm in for rachel tonight and we have a lot coming up this hour including the latest on president obama's efforts to sell the iran nuclear deal. in just about every congress for the past two decades someone has introduced something called the employment nondiscrimination act. this is straightforward. it would prohibit employers from discriminating against employees on the basis of their sexual orientation. the first time this bill got a vote was almost two decades ago and it almost passed. it missed by one vote.
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49 yeses, 50 noes. it's been almost 20 years since that vote. in all of that time it has never come that close again. every time someone introduced it in congress, it usually ends up dieing in dieing in committee. in 2007 it passed in the house and died in the senate. now in the absence of congress passing this law, making it illegal everywhere in the country to discriminate on the basis of sexual orientation. in the absence of congress doing that, it falls to each individual state to make its own decision about whether to protect gay people from discrimination. and some of these states are predictable predictable. the more liberal states but then you see something like this. something like today in the very
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red state of north dakota. this is the front page of the far doe forum. it's one of the state's largest newspapers and it is calling out state lawmakers who voted to kill a bill there that would ban job discrimination against gays. the forum is not exactly a left wing rag. it's endorsed a lot of republican candidates in the past. just three years ago it refused to print a same sex major announcement and now it's doing what you're seeing on your screen today. they packed the north dakota house chamber for the debate on the bill and for the vote yesterday. it failed and it wasn't strictly a party line vote. a dozen republicans voted for this. the republican governor supported it. he's a republican supporting a bill that would ban job discrimination against gays and lesbians. it reflects the backlash over
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the indiana religious freedom law. one person telling the forum that many large employers and from innocent business people are afraid if it was defeated it would send a message they are only open to some. he continues and while we can see the backlash in indiana, perception of discrimination will have negative consequences for our state. it's fascinating here. in north dakota this is not a fight over a religious freedom bill like we saw in indiana. this is a fight over whether to add new protections to state law for gays and lesbians. the indiana bill signed by the governor and in arkansas and the ones proposed in several other states purport to protect religious people but they would show how unprotected the lgbt
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community is around the country. in indiana and arkansas and all the other states that are not colored in in this matchp, there is no state that protects them. this has been news to a lot of people. not only are the vast majority of americans supportive. eight out of ten believe it is already illegal to refuse to hire someone because of sexual orientation or gender identity. a similar number thinks it's not okay to refuse service to people. it hasn't been decided by a court. the fact that it is legal is really unpopular. that has become clear this week. mike pence backed off and amended his bill in indiana. and also in arkansas. the republican leader of indiana
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senate promising the legislator would take up the issue next session. governor of north dakota is telling his fellow republicans to pass one. there are a lot of indications that the response to the i'mndiana law has forced them to look at this. when it comes to the 2016 hopefuls all of whom exempt for rand paul who hasn't commented publicly. they all supported the original mike pence religious freedom bill in innnd.diana. it's a clash between the business wing and the establishment and also the conservative grass roots when it comes to issues like this they're finding themselves more and more on opposite sides but for now republican presidential candidates are siding with the
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rjts religious conservatives. why? why when we were confronted this week with the indiana law did they turn to the religious grass roots of the party. let's take a look. the basic issue of same sex marriage in this country. it has majority support but if you break it down you see a partisan divide. this is where we start to get into the mixing of religion and politics. take a look at this. this is support for gay major broken down by religious groups. people who don't declare, overwhelming support there. solid majority when you're talking about catholics. black protestants nour ten and then it drops off a cliff. white evangelical, 21% say they support gay marriage.
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that 21% support. the role that they play in the republican party. take a look at this. this is from 2012. mitt romney newt and rick santorum. these are the percentage of voters who identified themselves at evangelicals. 57% in iowa. two out of every three in south carolina. only in new hampshire is there a slightly smaller percentage. the first 27 states that voted that decided the nomination 50%, half one out of every two voters are white evangelical, or born again christian. you see the opposition among that group when it comes to gave marriage.
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that's why they're eager. they were so eager this week to side with the religious conservatives. the one chachatch is there may be a generational issue. two-thirds of the millennials, two-thirds of people support gay marriage. you look at the silent generation, just about one in three support it. when you're talking about evangelicals, you're talking about a potential age divide. as the population ages you may see more support f. for right now that explains why there's such an incentive for republicans to go with their view. is it going to be a viable presidential strategy long term. we have a political reporter for the new york times. as i sit back down after that
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exhausting journey. a little glitch there but let me ask you that. we put the numbers out there and there's the incentive. i get it. a huge part of the base born again christian and opposing gay marriage. are you surprised that all of them make that same calculation? >> i'm not surprised partly because the way the issue has been constructed as one of religious freedom as opposed to support for gay marriage. it allows certain space for some of these candidates to say look i'm not being antigay. i'm supporting religious freedom. it also makes them harder to go against it. imagine jeb bush -- you can't say you're against a bill providing religious freedom. this is designed to be an alternate path for people worried about gay rights on some level.
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>> we talk about north dakota. i think things were revealed about where the country is as a whole. there are elements of the republican party that are starting to respond to it. you look at arkansas. the governor poised to sign this, sees what happens in indiana and backs off. in north dakota now potentially adding protections for gays and lesbians to state law. snag something that maybe wouldn't have happened before this week. >> this remind me a little bit of the tea party business divide, except that people of faith are far more important block or constituency within gop politics and within the tea party. it's a real problem. the business community is operating in a world of all of america, all consumers, right? the evangelical community is not operating in the same world. you see a split here and the business world is just long since given up on this or in
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some cases have happily jumped on board the gay rights train. >> one made the point this is the flip of what we're used to see. it used to be on cultural issue, the consensus was on the right. and democrats had a tension where a lot of their base wanted them to be more liberal but their candidates were forced to acknowledge a more conservative con ken sus. it's changing now. the consensus is more on the left so the tension is on the right. >> it's a wedge issue on the right and not on the left anymore. as you know for decades social,s of different kinds were the wedge issues against the left. . we're seeing it to fracture the business and religious alliance in politics. >> it's the potential complications for 2016 are clear. right now this week we're
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talking about indiana. it could be any number of social issues, gay rights issues or cultural issues for the next year where republicans are going to be faced with this same dilemma. if they get through the primary, the general election audience is somewhere else. >> the pressure is mostly going to come from the evangelicals from the primary. the danger is committing themselves to positions that are untenable in a general election. that's the danger over the long period for them. >> that's what we saw with mitt romney in 2012. he inflicted damage on himself. we'll see how this one plays out. thank you to you. appreciate you being here tonight. much more to time including one of the loudest critics of the obama's administration on the t nuclear deal. more on that ahead along with
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robert menendez walking out of a federal courthouse after pleaing not guilty. the senator was released on his own recog any distance and ordered to surrender his passport passport. he has said he will not resign his senate seat while all this plays out. there has been one material consequence from anything that's happened and that is that he has now stepped aside from his role as the top democrat on the senate foreign relations committee. he announced that on tuesday. that's the day he was indicted and the timing of this is crucial. for months now he has been a thorn in the side of the obama administration while the administration has been trying
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to cut a nuclear deal with iran. menendez has been speaking out frequently and passionately about the dangers he sees. he has pushed for more sanctions against iran when the administration has been asking for patience from but now with the indictment he's out of the way for the administration. on the same day they announced the agreement with iran. he was spending his day in federal court. now it's democratic. cardin gave a very unmenendez like statement. he said the president and congress are unified in the goal of preventing iran from getting a nuclear weapon and he looks forward to reviewing all the details of the deal. we don't know and he didn't say
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if he'll bonn board with the deal but we do know he's approaching this a lot differently than bob menendez. he was basically the leading hawk among the senate on this issue. with cardin the white house has a chance. that said cardin is also not a sure bet to back obama on this. after years of washington gridlock, we're used to stories where president obama proposed something and we see a or the torrent torrent of republican opposition. we see something different going on here. plenty of republicans are attacking the deal. they're out there doing that but at the same time you'll also hear a lot of democrats attacking it. bob menendez is not alone in this. some democrats are against it and others are offering mixed views. the job of the white house is to put on a full court press to win over members of congresses.
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the white house said today that president obama has spoken to john boehner. it was their goal to speak to all congressional leaders by the end of the day. it's not just the president making calls. it's also the vice president, chief of staff, national security advisory, treasury secretary, human ambassador, all of them burning up the phones trying to get members of congress on board where w this iran deal. the stakes are high here. a bill in the senate that would prevent the president from lifting sanctions on iran is now just one vote away of achieving a veto proof majority. this has 66 supporters. when president obama announced this deal with the rose garden at the white house yesterday, he warned the congress if they kill this deal the united states will be blamed for it on the world stage and the path for a
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conflict with iran will only increase. the president want this is significant policy breakthrough. the question now is not if congress is going to sabotage him but if his own party is going to sabotage him on this. joining us now washington editor at large. thanks for being with us. we put the story up there saying they're one vote away from having a veto proof majority on the white house sanctions bill. is this a matter of time before they get that 67 in. >> i think right now what you see is the full court press to teach with every member of the senate on what's in that bill. they didn't have the detail before when they were adding names to the roster. if they senators want to stay on there without looking at the detail and asking the question of what they could do instead, i think that would be unlikely.
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i talked to -- >> the hope here is that with the deal announced yesterday, the framework for the deal people who have already signed on might now rethink it? >> i think so. what's happening. you have to remember this has been going on for 18 months and they've been threatening to pull the rug out from president obama. they haven't because at the end of the day they haven't wanted to carry the responsibility. now the details are out. now it's transparent. people can look at seen what the administration achieved. analysts are surprised on the right and left at how deep this went and how much they achieved. when you come back a senator like bob corker who's been trying to say there's a legitimate role for the senate and the congress. that's different than lining up a budge of no votes. i talked to a senator who said
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he is of the view now that it's unlikely the gop will remain as monolithic as it has been. >> if in the short term the white house is able to survive this and congress doesn't throw an obstacle in. what about the long term. if the final deal is put together based on this frame work this is going to play out over years. if iran lives up to everything in the deal, then the sanctions we've impossessioneded on them start to get lifted. is this something a future president does or does congress step in. >> congress is going to have to vote on the sanctions they have imposed. there will have to be a vote down the road. congress will have its say on the sanctions in which it has to vote down the road. on the other parts, this is an international arrangement. it's not a treaty or subject to ratification in a classic form like you would see other arms control treaties.
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another president could come along and undo it. it would be a tragedy and it's not typical of the continuity between presidents. if you think about george w bush this is the kind of deal that george w bush might have done himself. when you get in and look at it i think it's unlikely. an international arrangement can be undone easily by a future president. >> the argument from people in congress, democrats and republicans, they say we congress passed these sanctions. the administration has been negotiating this deal. it's not a formal treaty that requires congress gets involved but they say we deserve a role here because we passed the sanctions and you're negotiating over them. >> the senate is its own branch of government. it can come on and assert itself in a way, and i think with bob corker is they are reasserting the prerogative of the senate to
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play an oversight role. >> how can they do that without potentially blowing up the deal. >> they can come out and someone like bob corker can come in along with other folks and say we want to fund or defund various parts of this and i think -- just by bringing it up doesn't assure that they're going to undermine the president. i can see a trek where bob corker himself becomes a supporter of this deal. you listen to him carefully, he keeps his powder dry. he's saying there's a principle he believes in but he's not opposed to the iran deal. he didn't join the cotton all right likeetter like a lot of others who pregret that. now that the framework that is out, a lot of senators will back up. every senator who wanted to be
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informed on this was able to call samantha power, susan rice and ask far prieftor a private briefing. i think in the sense that the white house is in pretty good ground right now. they have to do it and a think a lot of used in media have been thinking the numbers are automatically going to stay there. i don't think that's the case. >> that's what we'll look for. we'll see if the number starts going the other way. that would be a positive thing the white house is looking for. still ahead tonight. monks, a red state desperate for a visit from president obama and what the final four has to do with a want to be president. that's coming up but first one more thing. monday night on this show rachel will have a live interview with one of the obama administration officials who was key to getting this iran deal done in the first place.
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he has been in switzerland all week and negotiating with iran along with the secretary of state and he will be rachel's guest monday night. he's one of the world's leading nuclear scientists. he helped negotiate many of the nuclear details. he has been widely accredited with getting this deal across the finish line and he'll be right here monday night. stay tuned. we have much more on the show tonight.
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received an official presidential visit these past six plus years and that state is south dakota. mount rushmore but no presidential visit during the obama years. he did visit it during the democratic primary. he lost it to hillary clinton and that was it. he has not been back since. he has not set foot in south dakota since then. the newspaper recently pointing out. we're used to getting ignored by presidential candidates during the election cycles but that hasn't always mean sitting presidents ignores us. every other president has been. george bush made it out four times. the white house said earlier this year he hopes to get there. >> the leader in south dakota is
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case was found on false identity fit. in the last four plus decades more than 150 other people have been taken off of death row and set free. these are the names of the former prisoners. you see them scrolls on the screen right now. in each of these cases the prisoner was casing execution until it was discovered the prisoner should never have been in jail in the first place. scores of prisoners freed from death row over the last 40 years. david keaton is the first on the list going all the way back to 1973 and today the newest name was added to it. the 152 nd person walked out of prison. >> anthony ray hid season now 58 years old.
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he was convicted of murder in 1985. two murders in birmingham alabama. last year the supreme court found he has been given sufficiently deficient counsel during his first trial. operating on the chief court appointed trial. tex pert that the court appointed lawyer turned to had limited experience testifying in cases like this. they had trouble using the may kro scope and not the kind of expert you would want testifying in your defense. after the supreme court awarded him another chance to make his case, they looked at new testing, and the new testing showed that the state's evidence was not conclusive. yesterday an alabama judge dismissed the case against him, ordered the department of corrections to release them
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immediately, and today at 9:30 a.m., he walked out of prison a free man. it would be an understatement to say that this has been a long thing for him. he was one of the longest serving death row inmates in alabama. entering as a young man and leaving alive in late middle age. he was held long after evidence began to emerge that he didn't commit this crime. 13 years ago his team showed evidence his bullets did not match his gun. he was denied a new hearing. since then the lawyers have been fighting to present his case. brian steven son is the founder of a nonprofit law firm in alabama. they represent people who have not had access to reasonable
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counsel. they could not afford it. they represent those people. they've built a record over helping people overturn convictions. he was by the victim's side. >> this is a happy day. it's a tragic day too because mr. hinten spent 30 years locked in a cell where the state of alabama tried to kill him every day. his case in my judgment is a case study in what's wrong with our system. he was convicted because he's poor. we have a system that treats you better if you're rich and guilty or than if you're poor and innocent. we have a system that's compromised by racial compromise. >> bien stevenson has been arguing for much of his career that this man should not be in death row and in prison at all for that matter.
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today that finally happened. joining us joy is brian, a law professor at new york university law school. that's the organization that represented anthony ray hinten. thanks for joining us. let's start with a simple question. what's he doing tonight? >> he's at home with his friends. he's trying to recover. it's very disorienting when you've been locked down in a cell when you've been in solitary confinement on death row for 30 years to all of a sudden regain your freedom. and so it's -- we're going to take it slow. he's going to take it slow and be with his family and friends this week and we'll start putting things together next week but he's very grateful very happy to finally be free. >> what do you guys what do you tell him? what do you do at this point? do you have a plan in place for how to put a life together after being away?
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he's been away for more than half his life? >> yeah. well, no. you just take it day by day. i think no one can appreciate the burden of being wrongly condemned. it's difficult being in prison for anyone especially when you're facing execution. but knob innocent is unconscionable. he was on death row and there when nearly 50 people were executed in the state of alabama. during the early years it was the electric claire. i've had conversations with him where he's complained about smelling the flesh bunch while people were executed. you can't torture someone like that and expect them to be okay. we're going to take it step by step j week by week month by month. it's especially painful in this case because he should have never been convicted. he wasn't convicted because he committed a crime. he was convicted because he was
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poor and didn't have the resources to prove his innocence. he was also convicted because like many black and brown people in this country he was burdened with a presumption of guilt and the state exploited that presumption of guilt to condemn him unfairly. that makes the conviction especially burdensome. >> how close did he come in all that time to be to the being put to death? >> well he never had an execution date but we got very close to stepping off the cliff. every court looked the other way. what was challenging about that is we presented evidence of his innocence saying retest the bullets. satisfy yourself he's guilty and when you won't have to worry about this. and they refused to do in a. we have elected judges and the prosecutors and judges decided to risk the prosecution of an
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innocent person has opposed to the perception of caring too much about the accused. that choice meant he spent much longer than he should have had to chase when we had clear evidence of his innocence in front of examiners. >> brian stevenson imprrks, thank you for your time tonight. we appreciate it. >> still ahead the strange intersection between presidential politics and the biggest sporting event of the season. stay with us. did someone say burn? try alka seltzer reliefchews. they work just as fast and taste better than tums smoothies assorted fruit. mmm... amazing. yeah, i get that a lot. alka seltzer heartburn reliefchews. enjoy the relief.
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this is a video released by isis in february. it shows supporters of isis taking hammers to ancient statues and artifacts in the city of mosul, a city isis gained control of last summer. these appear to be over 2,000 years old. they date back to the assyrian empire. it's unclear how many were reel or replicas or real artifacts, but this was not the only instance of isis making clear that its mission at least in part, is to destroy significant works of art and culture in iraq and syria. that propaganda video, paired with reports that isis had ransacked the mosul library and burned hundreds of ancient books and manuscripts. this month, the iraqi government announced that isis bulldozed the site of the ancient assyrian
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capital of nimrud. >> but now we're starting to see the ways in which the people of iraq and syria themselves are fighting back to keep their culture alive. this is one of the oldest christian monasteries in the world located on top of a mountain in northern iraq. it was about 12 miles from mosul. the monastery was founded back in the 4th century. the monastery is open to the public. they used to get up to 2 million visitors a year. all of that changed when isis invaded northern iraq. when isis fighters took over they destroyed several churches and monasteries and set their sights on this one. when it became clear they were trying to seize it the monks who lived in that monastery got to work trying to save their
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library. some of their books are more than 1,000 years old. they took them away to an unknown location. that was back in august. so far kurdish fighters have been able to keep the monastery safe from isis fighters but the monks wouldn't say where they took the manuscripts until today, when moments later, the monks went public with their story. they showed the world the manuscripts were tucked away in an apartment in a nearby town. and here they are, displayed on book shelves in an undisclosed location successfully hidden from the terrorists who would otherwise destroy them. some of these are over a thousand years old. the monks saved them by sneaking them away and keeping them in this secret hiding place, protecting them from those who had done so much damage to the cultural treasures of that part of the world. we'll be right back.
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maybe you're all fired up or maybe you've just heard about it a little on the news maybe you had no idea it's going on. but this weekend, there's a pretty big sporting event taking place, the final days of the ncaa men's basketball tournament, which is being watched this year by more people than ever before because they're live streaming the games now. the games themselves have been great. the tournament has broken down the way many fans always dreamed it will. there were lots of shocking upsets early on and a lot of favorites winning, meaning three of the top seeds in the tournament have lasted until the final stages of the tournament. that's the best of the best fighting it out on the biggest of the stages which brings us to the final four in indianapolis. it kicks off tomorrow night around 6:00 p.m. eastern.
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in sports one of the most talented pools of players we have ever seen in a final four. it will involve 10 or 11 players currently projected to be taken in the nba draft. four of them maybe taken in the first five picks of the draft. on top of that there's the potential for a championship game that would pit the number one and two picks against each other, kentucky and duke. so there's that the sheer amount of talent in this year's final four. a lot of fun to watch if you're a basketball fan. but if you don't necessarily care about college basketball, if you care more about say, politics, then here's a bit of advice for you. you should probably root for kentucky and duke tomorrow night. there's a reason for this. you will want to see them play each other on the championship game monday night. first, start with this. the good people of kentucky are obsessed with basketball. it's more a religion in that state than a sport. right now, the university of
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kentucky wildcats are undefeated. they are 38-0. that means if they were to win it all, saturday night and monday night, it would be the first perfect season in division i men's basketball in nearly 40 years. and they would be the first team ever to go through a season 40-0. so this is maybe the biggest weekend in the history of kentucky sports. and if kentucky plays duke on monday, duke has four national championships, their coach holds the most wins in division i, and there's already a lot of bad blood between these two blue bloods. kentucky senator mitch mcconnell during his campaign last year mistakenly used footage of the duke blue devils when hement to use the wild cats in a political campaign ad.
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while these games with being played this weekend rand paul is going to be announcing his candidacy. currently, he has a kid enrolled at the university of kentucky. he also represents kentucky. this is the basketball obsessed state, just bursting with excitement over the possibility of its team going 40-0. rand paul is a public supporter of the kentucky wildcats. but rand paul is also something else he is also a proud graduate of duke university. he graduated from duke's medical school back in 1988. he is a dukie. duke and kentucky are both favored to win their games tomorrow night. if they do lit be duke and kentucky. rand paul's alma mater and rand paul's adopted state team facing off monday night for all the marbles with an undefeated season and historic 40-0 record with the pride of the commonwealth of kentucky all on the line. and now add in this not even 24 hours after that game on monday night, a game that might be one
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of the biggest in the history of kentucky, rand paul is going to be in kentucky to announce his candidacy for the presidency which means if duke wins that game on monday if they upset kentucky, rand paul will be announcing his candidacy on one of the saddest days of the history of that state, and that sadness will have been inflicted by his alma mater. here's my advice to rand paul. if anyone asks you who you're cheering for, just say the guys in blue and white. now, it's time for prison. america's prisons, dangerous, often deadly. there are 2 million people doing time. every day is a battle to survive and to maintain order. >> down on your feet. down! >> loc
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