♪ if suddenly iran transformed itself into germany or sweden or france there would be a different set of conversations. >> and differences are emerges over what the u.s. and iran consider part of that deal. >> it's not a fixed year agreement, it's a forever agreement. >> this is called a framework agreement but it's actually more

framework than agreement at this point. >> this report is very much intended as a piece of journalism. >> the fraternity at the center of the now retracted rolling stone article is planning to pursue legal action against the magazine. >> on the one hand you can say this is a team loss. everybody who touched that story made a mistake. >> i can't read "rolling stone" the same way ever again. >> it's time for a new president. vote rand paul! >> this is a preview dlip clip. i'm waiting to see the real motion picture. we'll see if that's as good as "fast and furious." i doubt it. >> two seconds left. hayes for three. no good. and duke is king. the fifth crown in school history. >> right. there was a big game last night. >> there was a big game last night. a lot of people who are on this set are not pleased. heilemann, you're shattered. >> i wouldn't say shattered. i would say disappointed. saddened. >> your soul has been crushed.

>> who can root for duke really. and as i said before my father is a wisconsin grad. having the badgers in the finals was a big deal for an old man in california. >> my sister went to wisconsin. i bleed red through her. and it was tight all of the way through. it was tight at halftime. tight late and these freshmen for duke were incredible. jones, that kid, allen, okifer came alive in the last couple of minutes. five national titles. this time doing it with a bunch of freshmen. >> he really came back. what do you think of the officiating? >> terrible. >> harold is here. >> you've got john wooden and after john wooden you've got coach k, one or two others. coach k is an incredible coach. i tweeted earlier this tournament the older i get, the harder it is to hate duke because his commitment to excellence is incredible. >> i think as much as you may

dislike duke some you've have to love coach k. what he's done in this era very different from what wooden and the smallness of the teams back then what he's been able to accomplish in this moment with third and fourth year players and now freshmen. i was rooting for the big ten last night. >> wow. >> people said the big ten was too slow to win the major football championship. i was root for wisconsin last night but you've got to take your hat off for duke. >> did you hear what mccaskill tweeted last night? >> about the game? >> claire doesn't mince words. it was harsh. >> alex -- >> can we read this tweet? >> yeah. just barely. >> congrats to duke but i was root for a team who has stars who are actually going to college and not just doing extra try out for the nba. >> okay. >> harsh but fair. >> that's not fair. that's not fair. these kids are going to college to go to the pros. >> what? >> you tell me kominsky and

decker don't want to go to the pros? of course they do. >> seniors right now. >> they may actually complete their degrees. >> by the way -- >> who around this table is not a capitalist raise your hand. the kids have a right to go to the pros. >> she was just saying the truth then. >> they would have been gone the first year and taken the money. >> they have to play four years. >> you're right. they would have been gone after -- i'm sorry. you're right. >> after the first yeah. >> yeah. >> so we've got tons and tons of news to talk about. and you know great guests lead negotiator. >> yes, but the lead negotiator in the iran talks will really state her case as to why this is a good deal. wendy sherman has a few good points to make. but first, president obama is pushing head with efforts to win over critics of the nuclear agreement with iran. he is facing opposition from one of the most powerful democrats in the senate. the man slated to replace senator harry reid as minority leader and going against the

white house on this. chuck schumer says he supports legislation which would require the congress approve any nuclear deal with iran. meanwhile, the president continued his efforts to sell the deal in an interview with npr where he pushed back against israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu's notion that any deal must force iran to recognize the state of israel. >> the notion that we would condition iran not getting nuclear weapons in a verifiable deal on iran recognizing israel is really akin to saying that we won't sign a deal unless the nature of the iranian regime completely transforms. and that is i think, a fundamental misjudgment. i want to return to this point, we want iran not to have nuclear weapons precisely because we can't bank on the nature of the regime changing. that's exactly why we don't want to have nuclear weapons.

if suddenly iran transformed itself into germany or sweden or france there would be a different set of conversations about their nuclear infrastructure. >> and for the the record israel has given some alternatives. israel is weighing in with the changes they're seeking. they include a complete stop to nuclear research and development and the closure of underground facility as an enrichment site. >> john heilemann, a lot of people have been saying netanyahu shouldn't come over. what business is it of netanyahu, et cetera et cetera et cetera. we see in chuck schumer, the most powerful democrat now in the senate because he's -- he's going to be taking harry reid's place. a guy stepping up like a lot of democrats are going to start stepping up. and not just because they're afraid of netanyahu or because they're afraid of apack but because guys like chuck schumer have been pro israel for a very very long time. this has been hard for them to

swallow. >> yeah. but unless i misunderstanding the nature of that story schumer is not opposing the deal. what schumer is doing is demanding congressional having a vote on it in congress. i think there will be a broad bipartisan consensus. there's long time struggle between legislative and executive. a lot of democrats like all republicans are going to want to have a vote on this deal. president obama is asserting he doesn't need to give them a vote but i think politically he does. whether it's legal or not, politically congress is going to have to sign off on this. i think schumer will win that battle but schumer may back the deal. >> there are a lot of democrats though, i'm talking about getting the senate there are a lot of democrats that would like sit on their hands, that would like to not be on record on this deal. the fact that chuck schumer is doing what the president has already said hess not going to do i think is fascinating. >> i agree with you. i can't imagine senator schumer would be calling for a vote on the deal unless he's prepared in

going other way. otherwise you give the president going forward. the politics of it the optics the president is going to have to defer to congress. if he doesn't he faces real problems. they've got to start -- the white house has got to start making the case around issues that people are most concerned about. i think for the president to dwell on this point about whether the iranians recognize israel is not a winner he's got to focus on whether or not inspections are going to be able to take place at any given time and that these facilities where people believe uranium is going to be enriched if he focuses there he has a much better chance. >> i agree. >> we've seen stories about -- i guess the "wall street journal" this weekend had a story about how this is fraying the traditional ties between the democratic party and israeli supporters and jewish voters. i personally i don't know. i've heard this a million times. 80% of jewish voters end up voting democratic at the end. but there are legislateors in the senate, in the house, that find

themselves in the crosshairs. they go back home and people are, wait a second what's going on here? don't go too far out there with the president. you know? i think these democrats can only be pushed so far. >> that's why it was so interesting when netanyahu was going to come and make the speech how democrats wanted to meet with him behind closed doors. publicly coming out against him saying, bibi we're here if you need us on the side. israel's proposal says it all, the first line said israel wants a complete end to iran's nuclear program. full stop. anything short of that will not g be good enough for israel. the president said he cannot go that far. >> it's not going to happen. let's move now to the university of virginia where the fraternity is preparing legal action against "rolling stone" after the magazine retrabted the article about an alleged gang rape at the campus a story which prompted a blistering critique from the columbia journalism school.

nbc east nbc's gabe gutierrez has details from the campus. >> reporter: the fraternity at the center of the now retracted "rolling stone" article is planning to pursue legal action against the magazine saying it erroneously accused it of crimes its members did not commit. >> this report is very much intended as piece of journalism about a failure of journalism. >> reporter: the prestigious columbia university journalism school discussed scathing review of the article blaming not just its reporter but its top editors. >> this failure was not the subjects or the source's fault as a matter of journalism. it was the product of failed methodology. >> reporter: in a message from its editor "rolling stone" promised to improve its practices and apologized to its readers and to all of those who were damaged. but everyone involved will keep their jobs. in the piece published last fall a woman identified only as jackie claimed to have been sexually assaulted by seven men at the fraternity house. >> if this reporter had just

contacted you, could all of this have been avoided? >> yeah. absolutely. >> reporter: the report found "rolling stone" did not fact check the story with jackie's friends including ryan and alan who were mentioned in the article. >> i also wondered why there was a quote attributed to me that i had never given. >> reporter: they never gave them a chance to review the allegations in detail and did not try hard enough to find out who orchestrated it. >> it's very different from the rarl. >> reporter: a conclusion also reached by charlottesville police. >> there is no substantive basis to conclude what happened in that article happened. >> reporter: nbc news spoke with the reporter when the story was pib established. >> it's been very difficult for her to go forward. >> reporter: now she's apologizing. i allowed my concern for jackie's well-being my fear of retraumatizing her, and my confidence in her credibility to take the place of more questioning and more facts. some are worried this failure

could have a chilling affect. >> i do have concerns that survivors may not come forward. >> reporter: still, others hope people will see this as one case of bad journalism. >> i think other victims who have stories that they can tell carefully and in a way that reporters can confirm should be assured that the profession will hopefully learn the lesson here and to do well by them. >> all right. thanks so much to gabe. willie i thought it was fascinating yesterday. "rolling stone" apologized to everybody, did not apologize to the fraternity who they accused of brutal gang rape and the president of the university who you've got to really question so many things that she has done since this came out, and her apology statement, alex has told me she didn't apologize a to the fraternity either. that -- some of these kids had to fear for their safety. >> i wonder how much of it is

legal wrangling. i'm trying to think of a reason why these apologies haven't come out. on "rolling stone"'s part to the fraternity maybe it was to help themselves in the inevitable lawsuit that's already come. to the president of the university, i don't know maybe she's done it in private that we haven't seen. there was no specific apology from this writer, sabrina erdely, to the fraternity. it was a broad one to the uva community. her apology began with how difficult a time for her. that was the lead of the apology. it was about her and not about what she brought with this piece. >> i've been stunned by "rolling stone"'s response. i've been a big fan of the magazine forever. >> forever. >> and of course they're right nebs door. we always would have them come over. they broke a lot of stories here. would love them to come back. but this was just some of the worse bungling from beginning to end and the apologies. >> apology shouldn't be difficult. and it should be broad.

i mean, there's nowhere to go from there. it makes no sense. now they're going to go to court. let's move on to politics here. this morning rand paul is set to announce his bid for president becoming the second major candidate to make it official. as msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt reports before he wins over a broad part of the country he'll have to convince his own party first. >> will you lovers of liberty, will you rise to the occasion? >> reporter: kentucky senator rand paul is selling himself as a different kind of candidate. paul ophthalmologist, rode the tea party wave to the senate in 2010. since then he's made a point to reach out to people who often back democrats, including young voters silicon valley donorssh and african-americans. >> in ferguson there's 21,000 people last year there were 31,000 arrests. >> reporter: rand paul is following his father in

presidential politics. his father came in new hampshire in 2012. his son follow his core of supporters privacy and surveillance, mounting 13-hour filibuster against drone strikes. >> it looks like we've got us a good old fashion talky filibuster. >> your notification is the buzz of the propellers on the drone as it flies overhead in the seconds before you're killed. >> i mean he's out there talking. he's using the filibuster the way it's meant to be used. >> reporter: but paul has also tried to distance himself from his father's legacy particularly on foreign policy. he insists he's not an isolationist and he's changed his views on giving foreign aid to israel but they are wary, especially in the face of isis. >> the best deal i think comes with a new president. hillary clinton would do better. i think everybody on our side except maybe rand paul could do better. >> reporter: paul will also have to answer for controversial positions he's taken on issues from civil rights to vaccinations. >> i've heard of many tragic

cases of walking talking normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after vaccines. >> reporter: paul kicks off presidential campaign today and starts answering the question of whether he's too different to win the white house. >> it's going toic a strength of leadership. it's not going to take a ho-hum same old, same old, we'll get a republican that's a little bit different from the democrats when our party looks like the rest of america we're going to win. >> kasie is now in louisville where she will be for the announcement today. we know he's running as an outsider despite the fact that he's a u.s. senate never held elected office before 2010 when he was elected. he's chained his twitter page. it doesn't say senator rand paul anymore. what's the message today? >> reporter: well, one i think is, as you note, maybe you should trust your ophthalmologist a little bit more than your senator. that might be the message he's trying to send there. the question here is i was going to see the announcement but we're already to see signs that

this is the beginning of the swift voting of rand paul. there's already a group out there that was behind swift vote veterans for truth that is threatening to spend seven figures to go after paul in part because of his position on this deal that the president has been negotiating with iran that they say is out of the republican mainstream. paul has been somewhat open to the idea of diplomacy continuing although he says that congress needs to weigh in. and that is definitely a different place than many of these other republican presidential candidates have been. and with the way that the world has changed over the coast of the last year i think there are a lot of republicans who are just not convinced that paul can come into the mainstream of the republican party and win this nomination. >> you know john heilemann, a year and a half ago rand paul's position libertarian position on foreign policy made a lot more sense than it makes today. how libertarian can rand paul be and still win the republican primary? >> he positioned himself in that

trailer teaser that we saw yesterday for him as a different kind of republican. the question is, right now in the republican party how different can you be on foreign policy is a huge challenge for him because the party, not just the establishment wing of the party, but the party base is much more assertive and much less skeptical of adventurism, military adventurism, and he's got no real national security in a time of we're. and he's got to go into his party and convince them that a position that a lot of people in the country are more on his side with but in the republican party it's much more favor -- military strength, a big part of what you need to project as a republican nominee or he's not seen that way. >> he won as a tea partier on health care and taxes and some traditional domestic issues that republicans run on. with isis and foreign policy being on the forefront how does he gain traction? it's very difficult for him to find his space in this place. >> especially now. >> if you could stand by that would be great. still ahead on "morning

joe," one of the few people who knows exactly what's inside the nuclear deal with iran. america's lead negotiator wendy sherman, joins us live from the state department for her first interview since the deal was announced. plus, when it comes to political athletes hillary clinton is hardly considered a natural born campaigner and yet it may not matter one bit in her push to win the white house. why a new piece in new york magazine sis being a good candidate may be completely overrated. and later, arianna huffington joins the congress. you're watching "morning joe." scott: appears buster's been busy. man: yeah, scott. i was just about to use the uh... scott: that's a bunch of ground-up paper, lad! scotts ez seed uses the finest seed, fertilizer, and natural mulch that holds water so you can grow grass anywhere! looking good, lad! man: thanks, scott. ez seed really works! so, how come haggis is so well behaved? scott: 'cause he's a scotty. man: oh. scott: get scotts ez seed. it's guaranteed.

seed your lawn. seed it! "ride away" (by roy orbison begins to play) ♪ i ride the highway... ♪ ♪ i'm going my way... ♪ ♪i leave a story untold... ♪ he just keeps sending more pictures... if you're a free-range chicken you roam free. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance you switch to geico. it's what you do. ♪ two wheels a turnin'... ♪ the conference call. the ultimate arena for business. hour after hour of diving deep, touching base, and putting ducks in rows. the only problem with conference calls: eventually they have to end. unless you have the comcast business voiceedge mobile app. it lets you switch seamlessly from your desk phone to your mobile with no interruptions. i've never felt so alive. get the

future of phone and the phones are free. comcast business. built for business. we come by almost every day to deliver your mail so if you have any packages you want to return you should just give them to us

since we're going to be here anyway it's kind of a no brainer 22 past the hour. kenya is fighting back after last week's massacre at a university which left nearly 150 people dead. defense officials confirm that fighter jets bombed two al shabab training camps in somalia. kenya's military says

information shows attacks in kenya was plapd at those locations locations. a vehicle was also hit carrying militants. meanwhile, getting the first look inside the site of kenya's worst terrorist attacks since 1998. new video from garrissa university shows personal items scattered across the campus. three-day blood drive is under way as dozens of survivors remain in the hospital. it comes as one student who hid under his bed breaks his silence about the horror. >> the gunmen at first, they were not talking until they occupied the hostels where we were sleeping. and then they could just speak loudly and say that we are here to kill and to be killed. i had to step over blood and dead bodies of my closest friends and very good friends of mine. and it was bitter.

it's even now bitter to remember. having known that they were very innocent people who were good friends and very close friends of mine. >> meanwhile, yemen is facing a major humanitarian crisis because of the fighting between she quite rebels and saudi-led coalition. the country already struggled with malnutrition before the unrest. civilians are running out of food and water in yemen's second largest city. there is no more bottled water forcing thousands to line up at water pumps. meanwhile, pakistan's defense minister says saudi arabia has asked it to send aircraft warships, and soldiers for the fight against shiite rebels. and these photos show international airport before and after saudi arabia began air strikes late last month. joining us now from london journalist and filmmaker alanad given rare access to the houthi rebels.

take a look at a portion. >> the houthis seized control of yemen's capital in september of 2014. mobilizing thousands of fighters the houthis pushed south from their northern stronghold close to the saudi border. yemen's government was weak its army fractured. the houthis saw an opportunity. they took the capital in only four days. i arrived two weeks later. >> obviously the shiite rebels taking control of the capital has caused international chaos. let's ask, first of all, for people that aren't -- don't know as much about this as you, what do these rebels want, primarily? >> well, first, can i say i don't think it's accurate to call them shiite rebels. they have very much political in

their motivations. what they want is power thattive been marginalized for a long time. the president before 2011 had waged six wars against them and pushed them into isolation up north. and you are just talking about the humanitarian crisis. where the houthis come from was one of the worst underdeveloped areas in yemen and that's saying a lot, just to put that into context. and so the houthis have been trying to be part of the political process since 2011 after the revolution but obviously -- and the victim becomes a victimizer as well. so now they're doing the exact same things across yemen that they objected to in their behavior of the president before that. so it's a vicious cycle. >> so saudi arabia is egypt, is pakistan are a lot of other

sunni arab countries, are they misreading what the houthis want? >> well, i don't think it has anything to do with saudi arabia. they have a huge border with yemen. they are very involved in local politics in yemen as well. even after the revolution. they signed a pact and an agreement that gave them immunity to the president at the time. so i wouldn't -- i mean people on both sides like to use sectarian language to define this conflict but i would think and caution people from actually falling into that because this is political. >> we really need to caution the entire world and every newspaper across the globe because that's how this has been painted of over the past month. >> there's a delayed response to that as well because the houthis have been in control of the capital since september but nobody was paying attention until this -- in the past few weeks. so there is also this delayed

response to the responsibility of international community towards yemen. >> right. >> and i mean yeah. >> so if you're saying there's no sectarian role to play in this, that it's mainly about power, then is the international community also misreading iran's connection with yemen? >> even iran's connection with yemen is political. when you introduce them as shia militia, that is misleading because they are originally sadi. of course they've now branched out and they have a lot more people involved in the movement. but they are zadi shia and very different from the shia in iran for example, so as a set of beliefs they're not similar at all. so calling them shia militia, so in people piece minds they directly connect it to iran is misleading. as journalists, i think we should stop using that sectarian language. even when we talk about al qaeda or isis we don't say sunni al qaeda or sunni isis.

they are political animals. and they want power. whether they choose to use sectarian language to define themselves and define their enemies is something that should not be perpetuated by the media themselves either. >> thank you so much. front lines documentary "the fight for yemen" airs on pbs tonight at 10:00 eastern, 9:00 central. thank you very much. >> john heilemann, that was fascinateing fascinating. we are going to have to get in touch with ambassadors across the gulf states because they believe this is a sectarian bat and are freaking out about the fact that yemen is in the hands of what they believe to be shia rebels. >> that is correct. >> thank you. >> let's place that phone call. >> it's fascinating. >> very well informed reporter. it's constantly described as sectarian battle. this is much more political, straightforward political way. analogy with isis and al qaeda is powerful. and we're thinking about it. >> i can't wait to see it because, again, that's what she's saying is something we haven't heard of in press

reports for months. >> and coming up trevor noah faced criticism over old jokes he made almost instantly after being named jon stewart's successor. what is the current host of "the daily show" say about this. we'll have that when we come back. how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food.

so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com people ship all kinds of things. but what if that thing is a few hundred thousand doses of flu vaccine. that need to be kept at 41 degrees. while being shipped to a country where it's 90 degrees. in the shade. sound hard? yeah. does that mean people in laos shouldn't get their vaccine? we didn't think so. from figuring it out to getting it done, we're here to help. some cash back cards make things so complicated. they limit where you earn bonus cash back ... here's the way i see it, you are point a, and your cash back is point b. the simple way between them, the quicksilver card from capital one. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back... on every purchase, everywhere. i said... unlimited. everywhere.

now, that's more like it. what's in your wallet? if your purse is starting to look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ . the pursuit of healthier. it begins from the second we're born. after all, healthier doesn't happen all by itself. it needs to be earned... every day... using wellness to keep away illness... and believing that a single life can be made better by millions of others. healthier takes somebody who can power modern health care... by connecting every single part of it. for as the world keeps on searching for healthier... we're here to make healthier happen. optum. healthier is here.

. they have hired a new "daily show" host mr. trevor noah. i'm very excited about it. i know there was a large kerfuffle on tweet, tweet, twitter. but i can say this i think without hesitation trevor noah will earn your strus andtrust and respect, or not. just as i earned your trust and respect, or did not. or sometimes i earned it and then lost it and then kind of got it back but then it was like [ bleep ] that guy and then oh, that was so stupid. no i hate him! but you kind of just goes that way. the only thing i would say is i do hope you give him an

opportunity to earn that trust and respect because my experience with him is that he is an incredibly thoughtful and considerate and funny and smart individual and, man, i think you give him that time and it's going to be well worth it. >> all right. >> good. >> we're going to have to see how this goes but he's standing fwe behind him, or not. >> standing behind him, or not. >> but i think there's a bigger story about humor and the line and there are some other headlines i don't think we're ready to talk about but, you know, tv shows making fun of people and how far you go. it's like music. we're going to be putting it under the microscope as "the daily show" and places like that explode and become part of the mainstream. >> they do. use to be that oh, i'm just a comedian. >> it was over there. >> i can say whatever i want. now they profiles as the most trusted man in news or the most important show in news and making more revenue than the other broadcasts.

>> dicey, racy stuff. >> and in must reads i want to talk about this story. "new york times" has a story and you start reading it, wow, this is really great. though it serves primarily poor mostly black and hispanic students success a dynamo. urban counter parts. new york city, 29% of public school students passed state reading tests, at success schools, the percentages were 64% and 94%. and yet after putting that out there they spend the rest of the article just going and finding any teacher that ever worked there and left that would trash them. john heilemann, you had a very interesting insight. >> even moscowwistz is an enemy of the teachers union and vice versa. this is a familiar frame of charter schools is the way that newspapers cover them is they spend a lot of time talking about how charter school s do

well for the kids and they're better than public school counter parts and then spend time talking to teachers criticizing the tactics of the charter schools. here's one side of the story and here's another. to my mind there's only one side of the story, how are the kids doing? schools should be made about the kids how well they achieve and prepares them for life not about how comfortable are the teachers. >> willie your mom has been involved for a very long time. the numbers are extraordinary. we all go oh, we don't know how to fix our calls. yes, we do. right there. the numbers are incredible. >> well, it's not across the board but a lot of charter schools do incredible things right in the very neighborhood where a school next door has been failing for decades and decades. you put these two places side by side in the same neighborhood taking the same pool of kids one does great, one stays low, it kind of answers the question. >> i'm not saying that all charter schools, there are a lot of charter schools that don't do

well. the numbers here are extraordinary. >> if you are a parent and you read that your automatic intuition is i want my kid to go there. what the "times" should be writing about is how to get every charter school to imitate what this school is doing. take willie's point, you can do that in all schools. >> the next story i would like "the new york times" to write about is let's talk about how eksz trard extraordinarily well they do and talk about the lottery and the parents banging on the doors but are being left out by politicos that just aren't interested in children. let's get that story because you can find a lot more parents that are angry that they can't get their kids inside these schoolhouse doors than you can find teachers who are upset because they made us work longer. >> the kids -- >> i get your point but they have covered that part of the story. >> we know how to fix schools. read it. now we have to do -- we'll do that next block. up next how do --

>> alex is yiltelling at us. >> how does hillary clinton's skills as a candidate stack up today versus in 2008 and does it matter when push comes to shove? new york magazine asks that question. and eugene robinson and matt lewis joins us as well. >> we're going to be asking about this i guess this whip voting of rand paul begins today. >> the first antirand paul super pac of him being too dovish on foreign policy, dropping a million dollars on the air in iowa just to trash him. announcement day, by the way. >> happy birthday. you can't predict the market. but at t. rowe price we've helped guide our clients through good times and bad. our experienced investment professionals are one reason over 85% of our mutual funds beat their 10-year lipper averages. so in a variety of markets we can help you feel confident. request a prospectus or summary prospectus with investment information risks, fees and expenses to read and consider carefully before investing.

call us or your advisor. t. rowe price. invest with confidence. we come by almost every day to deliver your mail so if you have any packages you want to return you should just give them to us since we're going to be here anyway it's kind of a no brainer ♪ i've been drivin' a lincoln since... long before anybody paid me to drive one. i didn't do it to be cool. i didn't do it to make a statement. i just liked it. ♪ anncr: lease an mkc for $349 a month plus competitive owners and lessees get $500 bonus cash, only at your lincoln dealer. how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food.

so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com i care deeply about the gulf. i grew up in louisiana. i went to school here. i've been with bp ever since. today, i lead a team that sets our global safety standards. after the spill we made two commitments. to help the gulf recover and become a safer company. we've worked hard to honor both. bp has spent nearly 28 billion dollars so far to help the gulf economy and environment. and five years of research shows that the gulf is coming back faster than predicted. we've toughened safety standards too. including enhanced training... and 24/7 on shore monitoring of our wells drilling in the gulf. and everyone has the power to stop a job at any time if they consider it unsafe. what happened here five years ago changed us. i'm proud of the progress we've made both in the gulf and inside bp.

hey, girl. is it crazy that your soccer trophy is talking to you right now? it kinda is. it's as crazy as you not rolling over your old 401k. cue the horns... just harness the confidence it took you to win me and call td ameritrade's rollover consultants. they'll help with the hassle by guiding you through the whole process step by step. and they'll even call your old provider. it's easy. even she could do it. whatever, janet. for all the confidence you need td ameritrade. you got this. rand paul supports obama's negotiations with iran. and he doesn't understand the threat. >> you know it's ridiculous to think that they're a threat to

our national security. >> rand paul is wrong and dangerous. tell him to stop siding with obama because even one iranian bomb would be a disaster. >> gracious. 32 past the hour. good morning, everybody. >> isn't that nice? >> that just kind of clears out your sinus. >> again, where do you go from there? joining us now, pulitzer prize winning columnist, eugene robinson. and on capitol hill senior contributeor for the "daulily californiacall caller." >> we're going to go straight to that ad. it seems that narrow path might get more narrow if you have people like lindsey graham going around and just trashing him all the time. and that's going to happen. we see a million dollars poured in already against rand paul. >> well, that's right. i think that's one of the challenges that rand paul faces. when he won election there was

still some bush fatigue, there was a sense that america had been too interventionist, and that rand paul was the man for the moment. but since then you saw russia invade crimea rand paul was sort on both sides of that issue. you've seen the rise of isis. i think the isis changed and reading between -- reading the tea leaves there is a sense that libertarians believe that iran a rational actor, they're not fa fanatic fanatics. these are feel we can negotiate with. frankly, if america would just leave them alone they would leave us alone. that is a huge philosophical difference from most mainstream conservatives are. this is just the beginning for rand paul. >> gene robinson can rand paul come close to winning the republican primary in this sort of environment? >> probably not. but you know that question of the zigos is interesting because clearly it's changed in washington. clearly in washington people are

back more into the interventionist mode. but i'm not at all sure that's true in the country. there are polls out there that show people absolutely support of making this deal with iran even if they have kept tichl as to whether the iranians are going to follow through with every sort of -- check every box and follow through with every requirement of every deal. you know when we get to the election i have any doubts whether this is going to be as much of a foreign policy election as a lot of people think it's going to be. i think it makes a lot to make this a foreign policy election. >> matt it's john heilemann here. rand does have one real advantage, right he brings in a loyal core of activist libertarian wing of the party, his father's supporters. what do you think his prospect is to grow his vote? >> well, i think you're right.

i think the hope, the promise of rand paul has always been that he would keep his father's loyal coalition together, the folks who were just loved ron paul but he could expand that base make it more mainstream because he's a more polished speaker. and a better politician. i just wonder though if it's not sort of mutually exclusive. if it's very tenuous. i'm not convinced that rand paul can reach out and bring in new folks without doing things that would upset some of the old folks. i also have to say i think a big problem that rand paul faces is a man by the name of ted cruz. who i think is very much threatening to be a better version of rand paul and more mainstream version of rand paul who can undercut a lot of that support support. >> we're going go right now to raleigh, north carolina rs and talk to contributor editor for new york magazine who wrote the cover story in the magazine's new issue titled "is hillary clinton any good at running for

office"? >> in the piece jason writes in part this. for much of the obama presidency there has been a general sense of calm among democrats about their chances to retain the white house. then, over the past few weeks the country watched as clinton dealt with the fallout from the revelation that she used a personal e-mail server while heading up the state department. the glee and regret among republicans and democrats have been most pronounced over the disastrous press conference clinton held at the united nations to try and put the matter to rest which served to remind them of something many had forgotten. what an abominable candidate she can be. >> that's fascinating. jason, about a year and a half ago, i mean i like hillary clinton -- i like hillary clinton very much. and you know always talked about how great she was in defeat. and then i remember we saw picture of her where she started to move out and it had her like with her head in the air and it looked like a fake laugh and

everybody around the set goes god, she's just so great at being secretary of state and so bad at being a political candidate. it's almost like a light switch seems to go off. >> yeah. and i think that's what democrats are sort of now being reminded of these past few weeks. they're really having flashbacks to 2008 and even flashbacks to her senate campaigns. i think there's a sense that you know she's run now three times and she's won twice but the two times she won she was not facing very formidable candidateing candidatings. the one time she was, obama in 2008, she lost and now democrats are getting nervous, is she capable of beating a good opponent? >> is she just a bad front runt r runner? when he back was against the wall she transformed into a great candidate. >> that's the narrative of 2008 and what's what the hillary clinton campaign people are hoping this time around. when she had her back against the wall she got better, they changed the setting she was in.

she was in more intimate environments and they want to replicate that for 2016 do that before her back is against the wall do it while she's out in front and hope it produces the same results. >> thank you very much. we'll be looking for your new cover story of "new york" magazine. gene, stay with us if you can. coming up lead negotiator for the u.s. in the nuclear negotiations with iran. we have a lot of questions for her. she's going to reveal the simple office supply that wendy sherman used to help both sides reach a deal. "morning joe" will be right back. moms know their family's mouths often need a helping hand. after brushing listerine® total care helps prevent cavities strengthens teeth and restores tooth enamel. it's an easy way to give listerine® total care

to the total family. listerine® total care. one bottle, six benefits. power to your mouth™. and for kids starting at age six, listerine® smart rinse delivers extra cavity protection after brushing. hey mike, it's lucy from lifelock. good news. we just learned your case is closed and your stolen retirement funds are finally being restored. lucy, wow... that 401k is two years in the mailroom ten in customer service,

and the last five as sales director. that's some resume. try raising teenagers. you only have one identity. protect it with the best. lifelock. the garden is the story of our lives... told and retold. it's as old as our time on earth. and as new as tomorrow. you can have a yard. or slightly less. gardening isn't about where we choose to live.

it's about how we choose to live. miracle-gro. life starts here. if you want to succeed in business, mistakes are a luxury you can't afford. that's why i recommend fast reliable comcast business internet. they know what businesses need. and there's a no-mistake guarantee. if you don't like it, you have thirty days to call and get your money back. with comcast business internet you literally can't mook a mistick. i meant to say that. switch today and get the no mistake guarantee. comcast business. built for business.

when you see it? oh no that's okay guys. these are good. they won't land on you. >> they're scary. >> they won't sting you. they will be okay. wait, wait, wait, wait. hold on. hold on! you guys are wild things. you're not supposed to be scared of bees. >> oh, my gosh. that is so funny.

>> if you're really still and really calm, a bee will not hurt you. >> he should not be laughing while the kids are being attacked by killer bees. >> no, he's adorable. >> when bees come around my kids are freaking out. i would always be like they're more scared of you than you are of them. of course i will walk past -- they'll hit their head on the corner, don't -- it's more scared of you. i say that about everything. but, yeah, sit there. but you had a fascinating point during the break of -- i'm laughing because i say that to kate and kate is like okay dad, i know. inanimate objects, everything. you had a discussion about hillary clinton. >> no, i was just thinking about jason's article and we'll have to have him back. i just wonder because when you think about what bad campaigning is and you inadvertently mentioned her laugh that everyone took wrong. i'm not sure men get looked at that way and i just wonder how much of it is that we're just not used to a woman doing this very well. i'm not sure --

>> or even often. >> yeah. and i am the first to not -- to be careful about say this but i just wonder sometimes if she's unfairly targeted for things that men don't get targeted for or they don't even recoil about. you are skeptical. that's just how i feel. >> we're going to talk about this more at the top of the hour. they're telling us we have to go to break. coming up at the top of the hour mika who do we have? >> one of the most powerful democrats in the senate goes against the white house on the nuclear deal with iran. why it's not good news for president obama as he continues making his case. and we'll talk exclusively to wendy sherman, the lead u.s. negotiator in the iran talks. plus we'll go live to louisville where senator rand paul is about to make it always shul. mark halperin has new reporting on the presidential contender stepping outside the gop mold. "morning joe" is back in a moment.

you owned your car for four years. you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance. if you sign up for better car replacement, we'll pay for a car that's a model year newer with 15,000 fewer miles than your old one. see car insurance in a whole new light. liberty mutual insurance. if you have moderate to severe rheumatoid arthritis like me and you're talking to your rheumatologist about a biologic... this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my pain and protect my joints from further damage. this is humira giving me new perspective.

doctors have been prescribing humira for ten years. humira works for many adults. it targets and helps to block a specific source of inflammation that contributes to ra symptoms. humira can lower your ability to fight infections, including tuberculosis. serious, sometimes fatal infections and cancers including lymphoma have happened, as have blood, liver, and nervous system problems, serious allergic reactions, and new or worsening heart failure. before treatment get tested for tb. tell your doctor if you've been to areas where certain fungal infections are common, and if you've had tb hepatitis b, are prone to infections, or have flu-like symptoms or sores. don't start humira if you have an infection. talk to your doctor and visit humira.com this is humira at work we all enter this world with a shout and we see no reason to stop. so cvs health is creating industry-leading programs and tools that help people stay on medicines as their doctors prescribed.

it could help save tens of thousands of lives every year. and that w ould be something worth shouting about. cvs health, because health is everything. okay, listen up! i'm re-workin' the menu. mayo? corn dogs? you are so outta here! aah! [ female announcer ] the complete balanced nutrition of great-tasting ensure. 24 vitamins and minerals antioxidants and 9 grams of protein. [ bottle ] ensure®. nutrition in charge™.

♪ it's back! xfinity watchathon week. the biggest week in television history. it's your all-access binge-watching pass to tv's hottest shows free with xfinity on demand. xfinity watchathon week. now through april 12th. perfect for people who really love tv. suddenly iran transformed itself into germany or sweden or france there would be a different set of conversations. >> differences are i'm herring over what the u.s. and iran consider part of that deal. >> it's not a fixed year agreement. it's a forever agreement in a certain sense. >> this is called a framework agreement but it's actually more framework than agreement at this point. >> this report is very much

intended as a piece of journalism about a failure of journalism. >> the fraternity at the center of the new retracted "rolling stone" article is planning to pursue legal action against the magazine. >> on the one hand you can say this is a team loss. everybody who touched that story made mistakes. >> i can't read "rolling stone" the same way ever again. >> it's time for a new president. >> vote rand paul! >> this is a preview clip i'm waiting to see the real motion picture. we'll see if that is as good as "fast and furious." i doubt it. >> two seconds left. one second. hayes for three. no good. duke is king! the fifth crown in school history. >> welcome back to "morning joe." it's the top of the hour. john heilemann and eugene robinson are back with us. joining the conversation the host of the talk show" tavis smiley" on pbs, travis smiley "my journey with maya," we'll get to that later.

>> before we went to break mika suggested that hillary clinton was treated unfairly in part so some ways because she's a woman. >> i think -- i think received in a different way, people reacted to her differently. >> i have absolutely no doubt about that and i wasn't going to challenge that. mika started about her candidate skills and i do think if you look back at that 2007-2008 frame you can take gender out of it. she was a poor candidate in 2007 and she was a really good candidate in spring of 2008. you made the point earlier, joe, 20 was that moment when her back was against the wall when she had to fight and she thought she was going to fight for her life. she became an incredible candidate. the previous year when she thought she was coasting to the nomination and it was the inevitable democratic nominee she was a stiffer, more entitled candidate and not one who was showing passion and energy. i think you can say that about male candidates, too. some who are very, very good and some who are not. >> we saw this unfold in

realtime during our show where she was stiff. she was awkward. she was calculating. you just went uh. and then she got her -- after new hampshire we were kind of in awe. >> she was a better candidate than obama in the spring. >> great political athlete, the transformation was complete. >> we pointed to new hampshire for that. it goes without saying almost that women are treated differently than men, the way she looks and what she's wearing and everything else. of course that's true. i do think there have been a lot of candidates we talked about whether or not very good come painer. mitt romney just last cycle jumped to mind. talked about him being stiff and made junfun of the jeans he wore. if you're a bad politician that's always comes out in a campaign, whether you're a man or a woman. >> you might be right. we'll see what happens. let's get to the news. >> president obama is pushing ahead with his efforts to win over critics of the nuclear agreement with iran. we're going to talk with the lead negotiator in the agreement in 15 minutes. >> but he's now facing opposition from one of the most

powerful democrats in the senate, the man slated to replace senator hazerry reid is going against the white house. senator chuck schumer says he supports legislation which would require that congress approve any nuclear deal with iran. meanwhile, the president continued his efforts to sell the deal in an interview with npr where he pushed back against israel prime minister benjamin netanyahu's notion that any deal must force iran to recognize the state of israel. >> the notion that we would condition iran not getting nuclear weapons in a verifyiable deal on iran recognizing israel is really akin to saying that we won't sign a deal unless the nature of the iranian regime completely transforms. and that is i think, a fundamental misjudgment. i want to return to this point. we want iran not to have nuclear

weapons precisely because we can't bank on the nature of the regime changing. that's exactly why we don't want to have nuclear weapons. if suddenly iran transformed itself into germany or sweden or france there would be a different b set of conversations about their nuclear infrastructure. >> and israel is weighing in on the changes they are seeking in any nuclear agreement. they include a complete stop to nuclear research and development and the closure of an underground facility as an enrichment site. >> tavis, does this deal make sense? >> i think it's the best deal that president obama can get. and we can play politics with it but something has to be done. and i don't know if he can do any better. you never going to have a deal where we have all the terms of it but how much better. >> do we need the deal? >> i think so. >> need it with iran. john heilemann, obviously chuck schumer coming out. a lot of democrats probably glad

he is. israel demanding a vote on the floor. how important is that? >> well, look it's clear. he's now one of a dozen democratic senators who have signed on with bob corker on the republican side in favor of the legislation that says that the senate must be able to review and have authority over whether this deal gets approved or not. and schumer is obviously because he's the incoming minority leader is the biggest voice in some ways now in the democratic party. so i have always thought as a matter of politics if not law the president would need to go to congress and i think that's now almost inevitable. >> willie the "wall street journal" talked about how jewish voters were traditionally democratic but this iran deal is now fray inging that. i don't think that much but at the end of the day though are these the sort of things that chuck schumer and other democrats have to do to say, hey, we're not just blindly following the president into this iran deal? >> yeah i think that's probably true. and i also think the president, although celebrating this framework, knows that there's

still a fight ahead because netanyahu came up publicly on sunday and said we're going to be lobbying we're going to lobby the united states congress against this deal. i'm not trying to kill the deal. i'm trying to kill a bad deal. he thinks there should be a deal but under his terms that deal should include iran not having any nuclear program whatsoever. >> as willie said last hour that kills the deal. >> well, we'll see. gene you write in the "washington post" history in the making in the iran framework, not deal. the argument will rage about the merits of the agreement but what the negotiators have achieved in lieu san switzerland, will be difficult to complete yet even harder to undo. hardly mentioned in the debate here is the fact that the united states was joined in talks by britain, france, china russia and germany. if the senate decides the deal is no good and there should be draconian new sanctions, there's all well and good. the idea might sell in paris where the government has been notably hawkish, but it probably won't in london or berlin and definitely won't in moscow or

beijing. gene, there is that. and the iranian people to consider. >> yeah, there are all of those things to consider. i mean look there was a consensus here among the permanent five members of this security council plus germany that this was the way to proceed with iran. and if the u.s. senate can decide otherwise, and obviously the united states is the most important party at that table on the other side of the table from iran, but not the only party, and so the world is going to proceed on that basis, i think, regardless of what the senate does. so i -- you know i think the big step, frankly, was last week. and we will hear the details. the senate will have its say and will either allow the president to proceed or will somehow change the way the president proceeds. there may have to be further negotiations. but i think fundamentally the u.s. relationship and the world's relationship with iran

has probably been altered and that probably happened last week. >> let's move to the university of virginia now where the fraternity phikappa psi, a blistering critique from the columbia journalism school. nbc's gabe gutierrez has details from campus in charlottesville, virginia. >> reporter: the fraternity at the center of the now retracted "rolling stone" article is planning to pursue legal action against the magazine saying it erroneously aused them of crimes its members did not commit. >> this report is very much intend end as a piece of journalism about a failure of journalism. >> reporter: the prestigious columbus university journalism school discussed its scathing interview of the article blaming not just its reporter but its toppeder to edped editors. >> the failure was not the subject or the source's fault as a matter of journalism.

it was the product of failed methodology will. >> reporter: in its message from the editor "rolling stone" promised to improve practices and apologize to readers and to all of those who were damaged but everyone involved will keep their jobs. in the piece published last fall, a woman identified om as jackie claimed to have been sexually assaulted by seven men at the fraternity house. >> if this reporter had just contacted you, could all of this have been avoided? >> yeah. absolutely. >> reporter: the report found "rolling stone" did not fact check the story with jackie's friends including ryan duffen and alex stock who were mentioned in the article under pseudonym pseudonyms. >> i was also wondering why there was a quote attributed to me that i had never given. >> reporter: the report found rolling stone never gave the fraternity to review the allegations in detail and did not try hard enough to find the person accused of orchestrating the assault. >> at this point it's pretty clear if anything did happen to jackie it's very different from the article. >> reporter: a conclusion also reached friday charlottesville police. >> there's no substantive basis to conclude what is described in

that article happened that night. >> reporter: nbc news spoke with the reporter sabrina ruben erdely when the story was published. >> it's been very difficult for her to go forward. now she's apologizing. i allowed my concern for jackie's well-being, my fear of retraumatizing her, and my confidence in her credibility to take the place of more questioning and more facts. some are worried this failure could have a chilling effect. >> i do have concerns that survivors may not come forward. >> reporter: still others people will see this as bun case of bad journalism. >> i think other victims who have stories that they can tell carefully and in a way that reporters can confirm should be assured that the profession will hopefully learn the lesson here and do to do well by them. >> tavis, you were shaking your head through the whole thing. >> one thing, it's hard to imagine how they could have got then this story so wrong. "rolling stone" in the past has done good work. it's hard to imagine how they

got this one so wrong. two, the fact that nobody nobody is losing their job over this is unconscionable to me. somewhere jayson blair, of the "new york times," is saying omg. >> yeah. >> he's like -- >> some other letters. >> i don't want to say that but saying something. i know jayson blair is saying what the freak. is that better? >> you scared me. >> and the front door. >> and the other thing is i think this long term does damage to women who do come forward with credible stories. >> once again. >> once again. who won't be taken seriously now because we let this story out and nobody paid the price for it. >> to the accused and -- it's tragic. >> all of the way around. >> tavis, how in the world did this happen? it happened because there was bias going into this story. they already had the story written. the editors up and down the line wanted to trash a fraternity because that's an easy target.

>> i don't know. i don't know. i don't know what their motivations are. obviously there's the report from columbia points out, huge failure of journalism. a reporter who apparently was either incompetent, whether she wanted to take on a fra ternternity or not, she took a story and bout it and didn't do basic legwork to point it out. i don't know whether they hate fraternities or not. i don't know. >> let's head to the food chain. you had steve at columbia say, hey, steve cole don't blame the source, blame the reporter. >> i agree. >> you know what my attitude is don't blame the source don't blame the reporter blame the editor. reporters come with some crap a lot of times. >> there's plenty of blame to go around. >> isn't it usually the editor, no. gene, gene come on. where did the editors step up? i'm not giving this reporter a free pass -- >> don't yell. >> but at the same time there has to be somebody -- >> layer of accountability in journalism. >> -- looking over her shoulder.

>> you've got to sxwla blame both because you've got to blame the reporter because the reporter did not do basic sound reporting there and did not contact sources. obviously should have been contacted. used pseudonyms in a way that shouldn't have been used. basic reporting stuff should have been done. it wasn't done. now, the editors are clearly cull. able here and didn't ask the questions and demand the answers that they should have. and so they bear obvious responsibility here. there is a bit of a difference to my friend tavis' point about jayson blair. jayson blair just like made stuff up. >> that's what happened here eugene. they made stuff up. it's not that different. >> well, you know apparently the source made stuff up. now, here's what in this case the reporter does seem to have gone into the story with an agenda. and i think joe was right on that. i think the reporter and the editors had an idea of the story they wanted to tell and how they wanted to tell the story. that's wrong. you should -- you know

obviously you have some idea of where a story is or what you want to do. they seem to have more of a preconceived snoegs thannotion than they should have. but they didn't make up the whole narrative. they just didn't report out the narrative. >> in the gabe gutierrez piece you have a guy that was quoted saying the reporter just made up the quote. he said i never said that. >> that's why mean by i said they just made this stuff up. if you're mr. winner here's what i don't understand. if you're mr. winter and you're concerned in the future about the credibility of your publication, that's my point. how do you not punish anybody? i don't get it. we're going to continue more but i want to get to some politics here. the race for the white house is another republican candidate prepares to formally enter the field. kentucky senator rand paul is expected to kick off his campaign at a rally in lieu louisville at 11:30 this morning but he's already leaving hints on social media. the name on his twitter page now reads -- i was going to say

president rand paul but it doesn't, it reads dr. rand paul instead of senator rand paul. sort of the focus on getting out of washington. and his twitter handle has been changed from senator rand paul to the shortened rand paul. okay. >> so the polls don't look great, mika. >> no. >> also a bigger problem has to do with a million dollars being dumped out there, i guess, you know by the swift vote guys. >> yeah. yeah. attacking him right on foreign policy, on being open to supporting president obama on the iran deal. he's obviously seen as out of step with the national security most of the national securityupreme court establishment in his party. >> foundation for secure and prosperous america put out some stuff. take a look. >> rand paul supports obama's negotiations with iran. and he doesn't understand the threat. >> you know it's ridiculous to think that they're a threat to our national security. >> reporter: rand paul is wrong and dangerous.

tell him to top sidestop siding with obama because even one iranian bomb would be a disaster. >> that's a dark one. happy birthday. >> wow. >> i like the daisy in there. >> picks that last one. >> welcome to the campaign, rand paul. let's go to louisville kentucky, our good buddy mark halperin. mark halperin they've been going after this guy for weeks already. lindsey graham dropped his name in a criticism of rand paul criticism of the iran deal over the weekend as well. what are people so afraid of? as tavis said a moment ago, if you're not afraid of this guy, if you're not a factor why are you dropping a million dollars on him day one? >> well, they are afraid of him but they also don't want that part of the republican party, more isolation as part of the party to get any traction. look, there's a lot of focus on his foreign policy but i think they're afraid of him for a lot of other reasons. he wants to expand the party. he can be a formidable

fund-raiser. he's politically, not only talented but it's like they're 17, 17 people in this roller derby ring. he throws the sharpest hardest elbows. i think a lot of the establishment is afraid of him for good reason, not just on foreign policy though. >> how does he shape the conversation? is the establishment afraid of that? >> look again, he's moved a little bit on foreign policy. he's not as big an outlier as he was because he wants to win. he shapes things going unapol jetically after washington. by speaking a language with appeal to the people who follow what's called the liberty agenda. a lot of young people but not just young people that other republicans can't hear. it sounds like the parents on peanuts to these other republicans. they can't make out what rand paul says because it's communicating on a different level. particularly including on foreign policy. a lot of young people look at the lindsey graham type of foreign policy. they say that's my mother's foreign policy that's not what i care about today and that has

power and resonance. is it enough to get him a nomination? maybe not but enough to make him a huge player in iowa new hampshire, south karcarolina and beyond. >> tavis, stay with us. we have a lot to talk to you about. eugene, thank you. still ahead on "morning joe," what really happened behind closed doors in the iranian nuclear talks. america's lead negotiator wendy sherman joins us from the state department with her first interview. senator mike lee joins the conversation. we'll see if he has a favorite in the growing field of contenders. plus arianna huffington will be here onset. guess what there are just three days left to gabrab a ticket for know your value event. >> is it too late to buy some? >> i think you ought to take your wallet out right now and buy one. let's go to msnbc.com/knowyourvalue and you can get more information there as well. yes, a raise. i'm letting you go. i knew that. you see, this is my amerivest managed... balances.

no. portfolio. and if doesn't perform well for two consecutive gold. quarters. quarters...yup. then amerivest gives me back their advisory... stocks. fees. fees. fees for those quarters. yeah. so, i'm confident i'm in good hands. for all the confidence you need. td ameritrade. you got this. if your purse is starting to look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ . ♪ where do you get this kind of confidence? at your ford dealer... that's where!

our expert trained technicians... state of the art technology and warranty parts keep your vehicle running right. it's no wonder we sold more than 3.5 million tires last year and durning the big tire event get a $120 mail in rebate on 4 select tires. ♪ the conference call. the ultimate arena for business. hour after hour of diving deep, touching base, and putting ducks in rows. the only problem

with conference calls: eventually they have to end. unless you have the comcast business voiceedge mobile app. it lets you switch seamlessly from your desk phone to your mobile with no interruptions. i've never felt so alive. get the future of phone and the phones are free. comcast business. built for business. it is 21 past the hour. joining us now from the state department undersecretary for

political affairs wendy sherman. wendy was the lead negotiator, lead american negotiate we're the talks with iran. it is great to have you. congratulations, by the way. >> thank you mika. >> tell us about some of the more dicey moments, where there were a few where there didn't look like there would be a deal? >> it's quite a roller coaster going up and down. actually in the sequence before this one, secretary kerry sat in london because we were trying to move forward on a particular element, iran wasn't moving forward. the secretary decided he would stay in london until we sort of got within the ballpark. once we got within the ballpark he got on the airplane and came over to then geneva. during this last round in lausanne, there were times on both sides where we said well, maybe we just can't get there because this is a big puzzle. all the pieces have to fit together. and if that last puzzle piece doesn't lock in you don't have a deal. >> so i'm going to go backwards here and let the panel jump in

but there's a lot of criticism. we don't have a sense as to whether or not or will there be surprise inspections, a way of really creating complete transparency through the process here and then what happens if iran doesn't play fair? how is that adjudicated? >> well, i think there are two important things here. the transparency regime that is being put in place is the most extensive ever in this kind of a negotiation. and indeed we have a process agreed to where access will be provided when access is required by the iaea the international atomic energy agency which will verify all of the nuclear-related elements of this agreement. secondly, you've heard us talk about the snapback that means that if we suspend sanctions indeed even if sanctions move forward to a point of termination there is a point at which we can snap back sanctions if there is significant noncompliance and we have a process that we've worked through that will be time

limited to in fact make those very difficult decisions. >> you know following up on mika's question about inspections and transparency here, i've got to say even for those that are not comfortable with this deal and there are a lot of americans who are not comfortable with this deal you get them talking about it they will talk about the inspections and the transparency and how transparent is this process going to be. to follow up on mika's lined of questioning, how much notice under this framework is there season offensing that we have to give iran? do they have a day, a week a month to let inspectors in? >> well, i'm not going to go into the specific details of each and every element of this negotiation because i want -- although i accept mika's nice congratulation, in fact, we do not yet have an agreement or an understanding as the lawyers call it. what we have is a framework. we are now negotiating those details, those details are abs lootly crucial for all of the republicans that you all are discussing. and we have until june 30th to reach that.

what we wanted to do and the instructions with headad from the president is to get a framework and where we have a top line of each of the major elements so that i in fact, can tell congress, i, in fact can tell the american people that we can move ahead. >> what is your understanding of the framework and what we do as far as inspections go? >> i think what the framework means is we will have the access we need to ensure that we have the time to make the decisions that we need. it's why the one-year breakout time that we've talked about so much the amount of time that it would take them to get enough material for a nuclear weapon is so critical. in a year you have more than enough time to make other decisions about sanctions or about other kinds of actions, to make sure that america's national security and the world's national security is indeed secure. >> tavis? >> ms. sherman, i would be concerned in negotiations like these oftentimes we try to make the perfect the enemy of the good or in this case the perfect the enemy of the best deal that we can get. but how do you respond to those

who are framing this as i can use that word as obama's deal atsz if there weren't other international players involved in this process? >> very good point, tavis. we do this with a number of other countries. russia china, great britain, germany, and france and the european union helps to facilitate the talks. it's not just a u.s./iran discussion. it's a multilateral discussion that was mandated by the u.n. security council. so you're quite right. everybody is engaged in this. i think what's important here is that we shut down all of the pathways to the material for a nuclear weapon. uranium, plutonium, and covert. and the framework we put in place accomplishes all three of those things. gives us the transparency we need but fundamentally make sure we have rolled back their ability to enrich enough uranium to get weapons grade plutonium. those things will not be able to happen. >> john heilemann? >> wendy, after this deal after the framework was agreed to, both sides or all sides have

gone back to their domestic constituencies and talked about it. the way the united states talked about it sounds different they the want way the iranians are talking about it at home. is there anything you've heard from the iranians speaking to their domestic audience that troubles you? >> well, i think we've each been irritated with each other in some of the things we've said even though we discussed this before we left. we understood that our narratives were likely to be somewhat different but we pledged to try not to contradict each other. i think that everything broadly speaking as within the framework that was agreed to and i think really what we have to focus on now is not the narratives but getting back to work, filling in those details, and ensuring that we have an understanding that completely fills out this framework of understandings that got agreed to in lausanne. >> wendy, the spirit of tim russert was in these negotiations because you had the russert white board with you wherever you went. talk about it. >> well, what we had, i know that tim russert, famously had

that small little white board which was terrific. we had a very big mobile white board. >> i can imagine it was bigger yes. >> it was bigger. and we used it actually a few sessions ago because i wanted to talk with iranians about all of the elements visually see all the puzzle pieces that had to come together. we arrayed them all up on the wide board. we translated that into a piece of paper which secretary kerry carried around with him because you could visually see all of the elements that had to be addressed and how the pieces fit together. then our experts used the white board on a regular basis to put up different formulas different calculations different numbers than the iranians could put up their numbers. other experts from other countries could put up their numbers. and the experts could have a field day in the kind of scientific discussions that were really quite remarkable led of course by secretary monez, our secretary of energy who is a nuclear physicist and terrific contributor to this effort. >> coincidence becauses that

what willie on the weekend and i, we have a white board. sometimes we go to the holiday on 52nd. we talk about physics. white board, right? >> not really. >> no, it's about the horse races. i'm sorry. >> or brackets for basketball. >> i got to tell you, just gave us a mental image though of what you guys of we oh. >> it's so funny. i love it. that's great, ambassador. thank you for being with us. we greatly appreciate it. coming up we know first lady michelle obama is fiercely protective of her daughters but she's still willing to publicly put them in their place. >> malia, sasha were named "time" magazine's most influential teens. >> yeah i don't know why. >> you're not like a proud mom about that? >> they're not influential. they just live here. they have done nothing to gain any influence. >> yeah. >> oh, my gosh. we have a look -- >> i love that. >> that is great. >> forget the politics. i love them as parents. >> they are great. she's really funny.

we have a look at "glamour"'s official interview. >> that is what you want to tell your children. you've done nothing. i love her. that is awesome. >> they are not influential. they just live here. >> we'll talk to tavis about his new book on the 28-year friendship with maya angelou. all that and much more when "morning joe" comes back. >> that's great.

after brushing listerine® total care strengthens teeth, helps prevent cavities and restores tooth enamel. it's an easy way to give listerine® total care to the total family. listerine® total care. one bottle, six benefits. power to your mouth™. i'm the protector of my patio. killing weeds where they grow. a barrier forms so weeds can't appear - serious weed prevention up to a year.

[chorus singing:] ♪ roundup max control 365 ♪ with no more weeds it's your year. 40% of streetlights in detroit at one point did not work. at the time that the bankruptcy filing was done the public lighting authority had a hard time of finding a bank. citi did not run away from the table like some other bankers did. they had the strength to help us go to the credit markets and raise the money. it's a brighter day in detroit. kids are feeling safer while they walk to school.

40% of the lights were out but they're not out for long. they're coming back. is there such a thing as a sure thing in business? some say buy gold. others say buy soybeans. i say, buy comcast business internet. unlike internet providers that slow down when traffic picks up, you get speed you can rely on. it's a safe bet. like a gold-plated soybean.

reliably fast internet starts at $69.95 a month. comcast business. built for business. here on this new day you may have the grace to look up and out and into your sister's eyes and into your brother's face your country, and say simply, very simply with hope good morning. >> that was dr. maya angelou on the day she made history becoming the first woman and the first african-american to read one of her poems at a presidential inauguration. >> today the late author, actress actress, and civil rights icon will be honored at a dedication ceremony for the new commemorative forever stamp and

tavis is out with a new book "my journey with maya." >> tavis, thank you so much for being with us. >> perfect timing. >> thanks for having me. >> remarkable relationship you had with her. you said she was like her mother but it was a relationship that began you carrying her bags. >> that's what happened. i was 20 something-year-old kid. i run for city council in los angeles and lost. it's hard to imagine in your 20s that your life is over because the only thing that you think you were ever born to do public service isn't going to happen for you. joe ran and won. i ran and lost. i didn't know what the next step was. i was wallowing in this sea. >> how did you find her? >> a friend of mine dr. julianne malveaux ruth love friends of hers accompanying her on a trip to africa to ghana. and asked me if i would go. i said is dr. angelou okay with it? for two weeks afollowed her around carried her bags.

but i sat and i listened and i learned and i just took all of this in. and although she was iconic this was in august of '93 when we go to africa. she had just given that poem in january at the inauguration. she's an international icon at this point already. she did a lot of that to -- >> you're right, in her writing and public appearances her soaring spirit attracted legions of loyal fans but without minimizing those literary and televised encounters i have to say the personal experience the one-on-one, face to face meeting with maya held a power all its own. what was that? >> it was that she saw herself as a gift and she was always willing to share herself with anyone in her space. and people love her as you mentioned, around the world, but to have the opportunity as a 20 something-year-old kid to go to africa with her for two weeks and to listen and to learn and to just love on her and to have that turn into a 28-year friendship where she becomes sort of a mother and insist i call her mother maya not just

dr. angelou, it's about finding your voice finding your purpose, and having someone usher you into the sacred space of trying to understand what your life is really all about. >> for those of us tavis, who didn't have the privilege of spending as much time around her as you did and getting to know her that way, what is the magic of maya angelou? what is it about her that made her so special? >> great question. she said all the time tavis, i am human. because i am human nothing human is alien to me. i am human. because i'm human, nothing human is alien to me. when you know her story, her story in" i know why the caged bird since," you know when she was raped as 7-year-old child and mute for 5 naefl1/2 years, she knew what it meant to come into her own, to find herself, to find her voice. she developed an empathy but a radical empathy and she always reminded me of the distinction between sympathy and empathy. sympathy is feeling sorry for somebody, pitying somebody.

empathy is putting yourself in their shoes. because of her own journey she was always willing and able to put herself in the shoes of the other and to revel in the humanity of whoever you might have been. >> she was really funny, too. >> very funny. i say all the time not a phony bone in her body but a lot of funny bones. >> tavtavis, thank you so much for this book. >> willie and i were talking about your martin luther king book. i don't think i've read a book in a very long time that has changed my view of a historical figure. it was unbelievable. >> "death of a king," i learned things, you think you know everything about a man, historical man that important, i learned a lot about the pressures he was under not just from opponents but people who had long been supporters too. up next senator mike lee is standing by. he's taking on the government for subverting the constitution. and no one in washington is spare odd than one. >> we're going to ask him who he is endorsing for president. >> we'll be right back.! check out escape and find out why ford is the brand more people buy and buy again. wow! that's a four-cylinder?

i thought it was a six. i definitely feel the ecoboost in the ford escape. that's like a sports car. i just opened my trunk with my foot. i prefer, without a doubt, the escape over the cr-v. take the ecoboost challenge at your ford dealer. for a limited-time get an escape with up to two-thousand total cash back plus seven-fifty conquest cash with a qualifying competitive vehicle in your house.

how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com ♪ ♪ ♪ for the 51 million of us who may need a different kind of underwear, this is new depend silhouette active fit. it's slim and smooth so wearing it is no big deal. get a free sample of depend at underwareness.com people ship all kinds of things. but what if that thing is a few hundred thousand doses of flu vaccine. that need to be kept at 41 degrees.

while being shipped to a country where it's 90 degrees. in the shade. sound hard? yeah. does that mean people in laos shouldn't get their vaccine? we didn't think so. from figuring it out to getting it done, we're here to help. 19 years ago we thought, "wow, how is there no way to tell the good from the bad?" so we gave people the power of the review. and now angie's list... is revolutionizing local service again. you can easily buy and schedule... ...services from top-rated providers. conveniently stay up to date on progress. and effortlessly turn your photos into finished projects with our angies list app. visit angieslist.com today.

ch. okay. joining us now to announce of course right, because everyone else is. >> everybody you know is running. >> hear this announcement. >> mike lee, announce that you're run for president. kill it. do it, do it, do it. >> i'm here on msnbc today to announce that i will be on the ballot in 2016. >> oh. that is great. >> exactly one state. >> came here first. by the way, if you're a republican, where are you going to announce, right? >> where else? >> here we are. >> kt exactly. >> republican senator mike lee of utah author of" our lost constitution, willful subversion of america's founding document." senator, you write in part this. elected officials rely increasingly on a familiar campaign message, you need me to make a government work for you. in spreading this message, they don't just mask their self-serving intentions they obscure and diminish the constitution by acting as if the lawmaker is more important than

the law. they don't just disguise their role as marketers of corruption and dysfunction, they undermine the role of the constitution by putting their own personality in its place. >> i'm going to ask you questions generally about barack obama and i talked to you and i know that you go after republicans as well. give me a good example of what george w. bush did to subvert the constitution? then we'll move on to barack obama. >> there's a great example of this that i include in my book which all of your viewers should read. it's an example of where george bush signed into law the mccain-feingold campaign finance reformat. now, he did that while acknowledging there were constitutional problems with it. constitutional problems that the supreme court later agreed were constitutional problems and invalidated and yet in signing it into law he ignored those and said we'll let the courts iron those out. this is exactly the problem. this is why i wrote this book. this is why i ran for the u.s.

senate. it has to do with the fact that our society -- and our culture within washington, d.c. in particular -- has been willing to just sort of hand over the constitution as something that belongs to the courts and that the supreme court in particular and say the rest of us don't have to worry about it. the point of the book is that everyone needs to read it everyone needs to have ownership of the constitution especially those who have taken an oath to uphold, protect, and defend it as every member of congress has. >> you've been concerned, i've been concerned, a lot of people have been concerned about what the president did on immigration, whether that's constitutional or not, but at the end of the day you're going to have the supreme court making that decision. but more generally, is the greatest threat from the imperial president saying they increasing power that presidents have had over the past 50 years? >> yes. that is a threat. as i point out in the book presidents of both political parties have taken this approach and have contributed to this trend in one way or the other. irrigating more and more authority to the white house that belongs to the people. and that doesn't belong to them. doesn't belong to the presidency. this is a problem and it's a

problem that needs to be responded to by congress. congress needs to respond each time this happens. >> give me a specific. >> okay. let's take the most recent example that is familiar to most americans. when president obama acted in november of 2014 to basically change the way our immigration laws operate. he fundamentally changed the law. he did so in a way he previously why don't we wait for the supreme courts? the supreme court to decide that? who should officiate this? >> there are challenges being broadened. you've got a challenge going on right now in the southern district of t. that's why we have a independent judiciary that can review those things. i think it's important for congress to push back and i think congress had a chance and really an obligation to withhold funding when congress believes that the president has over

reached. congress' most effective tool in this kind of circumstance. >> heilemann? >> let me talk to you about p presidential politics. you're close to marco rubio, going to announce next week. you're close the ted cruz who announced recently. you said the most important thing is not the candidate we run but the agenda we run on, in brief, what is that agenda? >> the message. >> i believe that message should focus on upward mobility on helping the poor get out of poverty, on helping the middle class to get ahead. and that we can do these things by harnessing principles, that republicans traditionally have believed in. harnessing principles like doing things that strengthen free markets and that help strengthen institutions of civil society like families and churches and synagogues and fraternal orders charitable organizations. when we do these things we foster an environment in which upward economic mobility is the norm. >> do you think it's essential for the republican party to be a bigger tent? >> absolutely. a bigger tent and a tent that focuses on the needs of the

common man. we've got to return to our populous roots in the republican party. >> senator, you've been clear right there about what criteria you would like to see in a candidate. as you look at this list which of the republican candidates are people you think should be a republican candidate best represents that? >> i want to say at the outset that probably my three best friends, probably my three closest allies in the senate are running for president. >> who isn't? >> exactly. and at this point i'm really the only senator who is not running for president. so i really like cruz and rubio and paul. i'm intrigued by scott walker so far. >> you can only vote once. >> you can't do that. >> wait a minute. he likes all of them. >> i don't hear jeb bush on that list. >> i don't know jeb bush as well. i'm looking forward to what kind of policy he's going to embrace. he has served as a governor. he's not in as a governor right now. i want to see what people will propose as far as federal policy. >> skepticism there? >> sure sure. i think we should approach each candidate with kept tichl. >> are you skeptical about rand paul's foreign policy?

we're seeing million dollar swift voting him. >> well, i think rand is going to do an effective job at advancing his own policy positions and at defending him. he's no stranger to this process. nor is he any stranger to that kind of criticism which he's shown more than capable of refuting in the past. >> the book" our lost constitution." it's an interesting concept. it challenges you. senator mike lee, thank you so much. >> thank you. >> good to see you. >> thank you very much. >> i can't wait. he's going to run. i know he is. >> that announcement, you were just about to make it. >> i was just about to make it but then i decided to talk about the book instead which is a lot like "fi"fifty shades of gray." >> and lots bondage, i hope. >> just a little bit. >> mike, does it end the same way? >> you know i'm not sure because i haven't read the other book. this one is just gripping. >> it's amazing. >> okay. i don't know what to say after that. >> i love that. still ahead, michelle obama's new mission.

cindysin i care deeply about the gulf. i grew up in louisiana. i went to school here. i've been with bp ever since. today, i lead a team that sets our global safety standards. after the spill we made two commitments.

to help the gulf recover and become a safer company. we've worked hard to honor both. bp has spent nearly 28 billion dollars so far to help the gulf economy and environment. and five years of research shows that the gulf is coming back faster than predicted. we've toughened safety standards too. including enhanced training... and 24/7 on shore monitoring of our wells drilling in the gulf. and everyone has the power to stop a job at any time if they consider it unsafe. what happened here five years ago changed us. i'm proud of the progress we've made both in the gulf and inside bp.

some cash back cards make things so complicated. they limit where you earn bonus cash back ... here's the way i see it, you are point a, and your cash back is point b. the simple way between them, the quicksilver card from capital one. quicksilver earns you unlimited 1.5% cash back... on every purchase, everywhere. i said... unlimited. everywhere. now, that's more like it. what's in your wallet?

it's 52 past the hour. joining us is editor and chief of "glamour" magazine. she sat down with michelle obama and kerry washington to discuss helping military women and their

families. what an imprsive cover. >> it was a great. day at the white house. this cover leaked about 24 hours ago online and there was huge speculation about these women were talking about together. now i can share that it is in support of michelle obama's initiative joining forces, which is to help our servicewomen and men. >> this took place at the white house. >> yes, yes, we all sat down in the blue room. this is a campaign you have covered it before on the show it's been going on for four years. . michelle obama launched it in partnership with jill biden. but since then, there's a little bit of a sense among many americans that these issues that the veterans face when they come home, they are over, we have dealt with this, 2.5 million people serving since 2001 and their problems are solved. she wanted to it make the point that that's not case and all americans, and that's why we pulled in two powerful strong female actresses. >> why did you pick them? >> they have connections.

kerry washington's father served in the military before she was born. sara jessica and her husband have friends who have served. they wanted to say thaez are our issues you don't even have to have a personal connection. they are encouraging hollywood to do a fuller rounder job of representing the real issues that servicemen and women face. >> it's not a problem that can be solved in little support. this is decades down the road of sport that families are going to need. there's a two-pronged thing going on because we need to desigmatize mental health. we all need to feel freer to talk about those things. on the other hand sometimes there's a tendency among employers to see veterans as damage ed damaged. in fact, these are skilled work rs they are skilled, trained and understand innovation and. er they are 28 years old.

who has that kind of experience. >> you have pushing that message. >> the first lady has been great. on this issue. she's done a lot of work between this and let's move. for background what was the day like to be there in the white house with the. first lady and these two actresses? >> it was incredibly relaxed. the last time we had had the first lady on the cover was 2009, which was the end of her first year in the white house. that was a much more formal feeling on that shoot. you really get the sense, she talks about this house, you get the sense that it's their home. the girls were off at school, but she's really fully living there. and kerry and sarah jessica, they all know each other. kerry was showing baby pictures to the first lady and it was a relaxed day. >> the new issue is out now. cindy will be back with us in

our 8:30 half hour. we'll see you back then. thank you so much, great cover. up next, the fallout continues over "rolling stone" retracted story about an alleged rape. how the fraternity is now responding. plus, why one of the most powerful democrats in the senate says he's bucking the white house over the nuclear agreement with iran.

caring for someone with alzheimer's means i am a lot of things. i am his sunshine. i am his advocate. so i asked about adding once-daily namenda xr to his current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works differently. when added to another alzheimer's treatment, it may improve overall function and cognition. and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. vo: namenda xr doesn't change how the disease progresses. it shouldn't be taken by anyone allergic to memantine, or who's had a bad reaction to namenda xr or its ingredients. before starting treatment, tell their doctor if they have or ever had, a seizure disorder, difficulty passing urine liver, kidney or bladder problems,

and about medications they're taking. certain medications, changes in diet, or medical conditions may affect the amount of namenda xr in the body and may increase side effects. the most common side effects are headache, diarrhea and dizziness. he's always been my everything. now i am giving back. ask their doctor about adding once-daily namenda xr. moms know their family's mouths often need a helping hand. after brushing listerine® total care helps prevent cavities strengthens teeth and restores tooth enamel. it's an easy way to give listerine® total care to the total family. listerine® total care. one bottle, six benefits. power to your mouth™. and for kids starting at age six, listerine® smart rinse delivers extra cavity protection after brushing.

if suddenly iran transformed

itself into germany or sweder or france, there would be a different set of conversations. >> differences are e emerging over what the u.s. and iran consider part of that deal. >> it's not a fixed year agreement. >> this is a framework agreement, but it's actually more framework than agreement at this point. >> this report is very much intended as a piece of journalism about a failure of journalism. >> the fraternity is planning to pursue legal action against the magazine. >> this was a team loss. everybody who touched that story made a mistake. >> i can't read "rolling stone" the same ever again. >> it's time for a new president. >> this is a preview clip. i'm waiting to see the real motion picture. we'll see if that's as good as "fast & furious." i doubt it. >> 2 seconds, hayes for 3, no good, and duke is king! the fifth crown in school

history! >> there was a big game last night. >> there was a big game and a lot of people on this set not pleased. you're shattered. >> i'm disappointed. >> your sole has been crashed. >> who can root for duke? and my father is a wisconsin grad. >> i can see that. >> willie? >> my sister went to wisconsin. i bleed red through her. it was tied all the way through. these freshmen for duke was incredible. okafor, who had a bad game came alive in the last couple minutes. you might not like them but you have to give krzyzewski credit. doing it this it time with a bunch of freshmen. >> they were nine back and really came back. >> harold ford is here. you have john wooden and after

john wooden you have coach k. and one or two others. coach k. is an incredible coach. i tweeted earlier this tournament the older i get, the harder it it is to hate duke because his commitment to excellence is incredible. >> as much as you may dislike duke you have to like coach k. what he's done in this era, it's different than the smallness of the teams back then. what he's been able to accomplish in this moment with third and fourth year players and now freshmen, i was rooting for the big ten last night. >> we got tons and tons of news to talk about. >> first, president obama is pushing ahead with efforts to win over critics of the nuclear agreement. he's face inging opposition from the man slated to replace harry reid as minority leader and is going against the white house on this. senator chuck shooum rer says he supports legislation, which would require the congress to approve any nuclear deal with

iran. meanwhile, the president continued his efforts to sell the deal in an interview with npr where he pushed back against benjamin netanyahu's notion that any deal must force iran to recognize the state of israel. >> the notion that we would condition iran not getting nuclear weapons in a verifiable deal on iran recognizing israel is really akin to saying we won't sign a deal unless the nature of iranian regime completely transforms. and that is, i think, a fundamental misjudgment. i want to return to this point. we want iran not to have nuclear weapons precisely because we can't bank on the nature of the regime change. that's exactly why we don't want to have nuclear weapons. if suddenly iran transformed itself into germany or sweden or

france then there would be a different set of conversations about their nuclear infrastructure. >> and for the record, israel has given some alternatives. israel is weighing in with the changes they are seeking in any nuclear agreement. they include a stop to research and development and underground facility as an enrichment site. >> a lot of people are saying benjamin netanyahu. shouldn't have are come over. we see chuck schumer, the most powerful democrat in the senate because he's taking harry reid's place. not just because they are afraid of benjamin netanyahu, but because guys like chuck schumer have been pro-izsrael for a very very long time. even hard for them to swallow. >> unless i misunderstanding the nature of that story, schumer is not opposing the deal.

he's demanding a vote in congress. there will be a broad bipartisan consensus. a lot of democrats, like all republicans r going to want to have a vote on this deal. president obama is asserting he doesn't need to give them a vote. politically, he does. whether it's legal or not, congress has to sign off on this and schumer will win that battle. he may back the deal. >> there are a lot of democrats, i'm talking about getting the senate there, a lot of democrats would like to sit on their hands, that would like to not be on record on this deal. the fact that chuck schumer is doing what the president is not going to do is fascinating. >> i can't imagine that senator schumer would be calling for a vote on the deal unless he's prepared in voting on the other way. otherwise you'd give your own president to go forward. but i do think the politics of it at this point, the president

is going to have to defer to congress. if he doesn't, he faces real problems. they have to start -- the white house has to start making the case around the issues that people are most concerned about. for the president to dwell on this point about whether the iranians recognize israel. he he has to make the point that checks will be made at any time. had if he focuses there, he has a better chance at this. >> we have seen a lot of stories, and "the wall street journal" had a story about how this is fraying the ties between the democratic u party and israeli supporters. i personally have heard this a million times. 80% of voirts end up voting democratic at the end. but there are legislators in the senate, in the house, that find themselves in the cross hairs. people are going to say, wait a minute what's going on here?

don't go too far with the president. the democrats can only be pushed so far. >> that's why it was interesting how democrats wanted to meet with him behind closed doors. publically coming out against him, but that full screen we showed about israel's proposal full stop, anything short of that will not be good enough for israel. the president is saying i can't go that far. >> it's not going to happen. let's move now to the university of virginia. the story about a gang rape at the campus. . the story prompted a critique from the columbian journalism school.

gabe gutierrez has details from charlottesville, virginia. >> reporter: the fra fernty at the retracted "rolling stone" article is planning to pursue legal action saying it accused the fraternity of crimes their members did not commit. >> this report is intend as a piece of journalism about a failure of journalism. >> reporter: the school discussed its scathing review of the article blaming not just its reporter but top editors. >> the failure was not the subjects or the source's fault as a matter of journalism. it was the product of failed medology. >> reporter: in a message from its editor, "roling stone" promised to improve practices and apologized to its readers. but everyone involved will keep their jobs. in the piece published last fall, a woman identified only as jackie claimed to have been sexually assaulted by seven men at the fraternity house. >> if this reporter had just contacted you, could all this have been avoided? >> yeah absolutely.

>> reporter: the report found "rolling stone" did not fact the check with jackie's friends, who were mentioned in the article. >> i was wondering why there was a quote attributed to me that i had never given. >> reporter: rolling stone failed to give the fraternity a chance to review the allegations and did not try hard enough to find the person accused of orchestrating the assault. >> it's clear if anything happened, it's very different than the article. >> reporter: a conclusion also reached by police. >> there's no basis to conclude what's described in that article happened that night. >> reporter: nbc news spoke with the reporter when the story was pub lushed. >> it's been difficult for her to go forward. >> reporter: now she's apologizing. i allowed my concern r for jackie's well-being, my fear of retraumatizing her to take the place of more questioning and more facts. some are worried this failure could have a chilling effect. >> i do have concerns that survivors may not come forward. >> reporter: still others hope

people will see this as one case of bad journalism. >> i think other victims who have stories that they can tell carefully and in a way that reporters can confirm should be assured that the profession will learn the lesson here and to do well by them. >> r all right, thanks to gabe. willie, i thought it was fascinating yesterday, "rolling stone" apologized to everybody. they didn't apologize to the fraternity, who they accused of brutal gang rape. and the president of the university, who you have to question so many things that she has done since this came out. in her statement, she didn't apologize to the fraternity either. some of these kids had to fear for their safety. >> i wonder how much of it is legal wrangling. i'm trying to think of a reason

why these apologies didn't come out. maybe to help themselves in the lawsuit that's already come. but for the president of the university, i don't know, maybe she's done it in private that we haven't seen. otherwise, i don't see an explanation. there was no specific apology from the writer to the fraternity. it was a broad one to the uva community. her apology, if you read into it began with her saying how difficult a time this was for her. that was the lead of the apology. it was about her and not about this piece. >> i was stunned by "rolling stone" response. i've been a big fan of the magazine forever. of course, they are right next door we'd have them cover over. they broke a lot of stories here and would love them to come back. but this was some of the worst bungling from beginning to end in in. the apologies. it was not an apology. >> it should be broad. there's nowhere to go. from there. it makes no sense. now they are going to go to

court. let's move on to politics. rand paul is set to announce his bid for president becoming the second major candidate to make it official. as msnbc correspondent casey hunt reports before he wins over a broad part of the country, he'll have to convince his own party first. >> will you lovers of liberty, will you rise to the occasion? >> reporter: kentucky senator rand paul is selling himself as a different kind of candidate. paul rode the tea party wave to the senate in 2010. since then he's made a point to reach out to people who often back democrats, including young voters silicon valley donors and african-americans. >> in ferguson there's 21,000 people. there were 31,000 arrests last year. >> reporter: rand paul is following his father into politics. ron paul came in second in 2012. his son courted the libertarian

supporters focusing on privacy and surveillance, mounting a 13-hour filibuster against drone strikes. >> your notification is the buzz of the propellers on the drone as it flies overhead in the seconds before you're killed. >> i mean, he's out there talking, he's using the filibuster the way it's meant to be used. >> paul has also tried to distance himself from his father's legacy, particularly on foreign policy. he insists he's changed his views on giving foreign tide israel. many are still wary, especially in the face of isis and the president ice nuclear deal with iran. >> the best deal i think, comes with a new president. hillary clinton would do better. everybody on our side except maybe rand paul could do better. >> reporter: paul will have to answer for controversial positions on issues from civil rights to vaccinations. >> i heard of many tragic cases of walking, talking, normal children who wound up with profound mental disorders after

vaccines. >> reporter: he kicks off his presidential campaign today and answers the question of whether he's too different to win the white house. >> it's going to take strength of leadership, it's not going to take a same old, sam old, we'll get a republican that's a little different. when the party looks like the rest of america, we're going to win. >> casey is in louisville, where she will be for the announcement today. he's running as an outsider. never held elected office before 2010, when he was elected. he's changed his twitter page. what's the message today? >> reporter: one is, as you note maybe you should trust your opt molgs more than you should trust your senator. but i think the question here is, you know we're going to see the announcement, but we're already starting to see signs that this is the beginning of the swift boating of rand paul.

there's a group out there that was behind swift boat veterans for truth that is threatening to spend seven figures to go after paul because of his position on this deal that the president has been negotiating with iran, that they see is out of the republican mainstream. paul has been somewhat open to the idea of diplomacy continuing although he says that congress needs to weigh in. that is definitely a different place that many candidates have been. and with the way the world has changed over the course of the last year there are a lot of republicans who are not convinced that paul can come into the mainstream and win the nomination. >> john heilemann, libertarian position on foreign policy made more sense than today. how libertarian can rand paul be and still win a republican primary? >> that's the thing he's challenged to figure out. he positioned himself in that trailer teaser that we saw yesterday as different kind of republican. the question is right now in the republican party, how different

can you be? foreign policy is a huge challenge because the party base is much more assertive and much less skeptical of adventurism. he's not go national security time of war. he's got to go to his party and convince them that the position that a lot of people in the country are more on his side with, but the republican party it's much more military strength is a big part of what you need to project as republican nominee. he's not seen that way. still ahead on "morning joe," can you fight back against al shabaab after that massacre that left 150 people dead? the setback that the militants are facing this morning. plus who are the shiite rebels in yemen? what do they want and what is their relationship to iran? one reporter's powerful firsthand look as the crisis tears the country apart. you're watching je inging "morning

joe," we'll be right back. hey, girl. is it crazy that your soccer trophy is talking to you right now? it kinda is. it's as crazy as you not rolling over your old 401k. cue the horns... just harness the confidence it took you to win me and call td ameritrade's rollover consultants. they'll help with the hassle by guiding you through the whole process step by step. and they'll even call your old provider. it's easy. even she could do it. whatever, janet. for all the confidence you need td ameritrade. you got this. how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com ♪ is it the insightful strategies and analytical capabilities that make edward jones one of the biggest financial services firms in the country? or is it 13,000 financial advisors who take the time to say thank you?

'night jim. gonna be a while? i am liz got a little writing to do. ♪ it's why edward jones is the big company that doesn't act that way. meet the world's newest energy superpower. surprised? in fact, america is now the world's number one natural gas producer... and we could soon become number one in oil. because hydraulic fracturing technology is safely recovering lots more oil and natural gas. supporting millions of new jobs. billions in tax revenue... and a new century of american energy security. the new energy superpower? it's red, white and blue. log on to learn more.

kenya is fighting back after the massacre at a university which left nearly 150 people dead. defense officials confirm that fighter jets bombed two al shabaab training camps in somalia. the military says attacks were planned in those locations. a vehicle believed to be carrying militants was also hit. we're getting our first look inside the site of kenya's worst terror attack since 1998. new video from the university shows the aftermath including broken glass and personal items scattered across the campus. a blood drive is also underway

as dozens of survivors remain in the hospital. it comes as one student, who hid under his bed, breaks his silence about the horror. >> meanwhile yemen is facing a major humanitarian crisis because of the fighting between shiite rebels and the coalition. the country struggled with malnutrition before the unrest. civilians are running out of

food and water in yemen's second largest city. there's no more bottled water forcing people to line up at pumps. pakistan's defense minister says saudi arabia has asked it to send aircraft warships and soldiers for the fight against shiite rebels. these rebels show the airport before and after saudi arabia began airstrikes late last month. joining us from london is journalism given rare access to the rebels for a new pbs documentary titled "the fight for yemen." take a look at a portion. >> in september of 2014 mobilizing thousands of fighters they pushed south from their northern stronghold close to the saudi border. yemen's government was weak its army fractured.

they saw an opportunity. they took the capital in only four days. i arrived two weeks later. >> obviously, the shiite rebels taking control of the capital has caused international chaos. let's ask, first of all, for people that don't know as much about this as you, what do these rebels want primarily? >> well first, i don't think it's accurate to call them shiite rebels. they are very much political in their motivations. what they want is power. they have been marginalized for a long time. the former president had waged six wars against them and pushed them into isolation up north. you were just talking about the humanitarian crisis where they come from was one of the worst

underdeveloped areas in yemen. . that's saying a lot just into context. so they have been trying to be part of the process since 2011 after the revolution. but obviously, the victim becomes a victimizer as well, so now they are doing the same things across yemen that they objected to in the behavior of the president before that. still ahead, we'll talk to the man responsible for bring top talent to google. why he says unequal pay is actually one secret to the company's success. plus ariana huffington joins the conversation. we'll be right back. before larry instantly transferred money from his bank of america savings account to his merrill edge retirement account. before he opened his first hot chocolate stand calling winter an "underserved season". and before he quit his friend's leaf-raking business for "not offering a 401k." larry knew the importance of preparing for retirement.

that's why when the time came he counted on merrill edge to streamline his investing and help him plan for the road ahead. that's the power of streamlined connections. that's merrill edge and bank of america. bring us your baffling. bring us your audacious. we want your sticky notes, sketchbooks, and scribbles. let's pin 'em to the wall. kick 'em around. kick 'em around, see what happens. because we're in the how-do-i-get-this-startup- off-the-ground business. the taking-your-business- global-business.

we're in the problem-solving business. 400,000 people - ready to help you solve problems while they're still called opportunities. from figuring it out to getting it done we're here to help. whether you need a warm up before the big race... or a healthy start before the big meeting there's a choice hotel that's waiting for you. this spring, choose choice twice, get a night at no price at 1,500 hotels. book now at choicehotels.com scott: appears buster's been busy. man: yeah, scott. i was just about to use the uh... scott: that's a bunch of ground-up paper, lad! scotts ez seed uses the finest seed, fertilizer, and natural mulch that holds water so you can grow grass anywhere! seed your lawn. seed it!

28 past the hour. a new report is raising questions about the donations from four arab nations to the clinton foundation and whether they were supporting its causes or trying to gain favor with the former president and possible future president. it was found that since 2001 the oil rich country has donated more money to the clinton foundation than other charities with similar focuses. they reported the received $40 million from saudi arabia, qatar

and the united arab emirates with south dakota rab one of the top 20 donors. the red cross received less than $7 million total. the nations did not donate to six other similar charities. the donations came as hillary clinton was senator running for president as and serving as secretary of state. the arab nations faced criticism for mistreatment of women and raising ethnic tensions in the middle east. a clinton foundation spokesman said like many charities, the clinton foundation received support because our programs are improving the lives of people around the world. and a spokesperson for hillary clinton says it's wrong to assert or suggest that donations influenced her foreign policy decisions. editor in chief of "glamour" magazine is back with us. and ariana huffington is with us as well.

does this it raise questions to you? >> it doesn't, it's like unless we can prove there's some direct correlation, i would much rather focus on what is hillary going to say and where is she going to stand on the iran negotiations deal. something important, how we spend our time in this 2016 race is going to be determined a lot by what we in the media consider important. not everything matters. who donated to the clinton foundation doesn't matter unless we can prove that there was some connection. >> the way we could prove that is if any of the e-mails that she used as secretary of state were available, but they are not because she got rid of them all. isn't that kind of a problem? >> well, again, this is a separate issue. the e-mail issue and the server is a separate issue. let's discuss the e-mail issue, but let's not try to link it to

the donations issue without any evidence. >> okay, i don't know. am i missing something here? >> you have 90,000 bloggers working at "the huffington post." i'm sure a couple of them will end up looking into this. >> of course, we'll have a lot of opinions but the question is what are we going to give oxygen to in the election. >> there's a lot of oxygen to take up between now and then. >> let's get to business for the bell with brian sullivan. i do think there's questions there and we'll look into them and maybe we'll never know the answers because there are no e-mails and maybe everybody is okay with that. wall street gained monday despite a weaker than expected march jobs report but will the rally last? >> gosh if i knew the answer to that question, i would probably not be sitting here right now. here's the thing.

we're back to this annoying bad news is good news scenario. let me explain that. the jobs report weak friday. we got the reaction yesterday. the ideas that because the market was weak, maybe our friends at the federal reserve will wait to raise interest rates, remember it's like june or september, maybe they are going to push that back even further, which keeps the money pumping out, which keeps stocks and other liquid assets higher. so again, it's this bad news is good news. the fed medicine market that we're in now. and i'm sure it's driving everybody batty. >> absolutely you're talking about moving forward with presidential politics, but. think wages could be a key issue that a candidate could focus on the job market. >> absolutely, and what is fascinateingeing is that we are seeing businesses like walmart raising minimum wages. so something is happening. >> slowly, but they are doing

it. >> they are doing it in terms of the recognition that we cannot afford as a country, this growing inequality which means huge inequalities and opportunity. >> absolutely. you were launching a couple of things. you're always launching something, but i like this. you're teaming up with oprah for a new online course based on thrive, your best selling book. i love it tell us what you're teaching. >> so as you and i have discussed, as i went around the world talking about "thrive", the question i got most often is, yes, i agree. i'd like to be able to sleep more, recharge more, have less stress, but how do i do it? how do i go from knowing what is best for me to actually doing it. so that's why we created this had six-week course that starts on may 3rd and every week we deal with 2 steps.

and every week we have guest teachers the first is kobe bryant and he talks about how he discovered the power of sleep and meditation and how these are performance enhancement tools. it's not a trade off between being good at your job and taking care of yourself. like put your own oxygen mask first and everything else gets better. >> i want to "thrive." >> the question is cindy i think this is team thrive here. we did that. now two christmases? you didn't fail. >> i did fail. here i am sitting here with my phone in front of me. i clearly need to take her course. >> you didn't fail. here's what's important. no judgments. nobody is going to do it perfectly. the fact that you and i did the

sleep challenge together then the three of us did the digital detox challenge together. these are things that will gradually change the way we do our work. >> what grade did we get? >> you're both perfect. >> we get. past the idea that these are rich people issues. this is a luxury. great kobe bryant, he can hire somebody to do everything he needs to do and so he can go take a nap. how do you get past the idea to be able to unplug is a luxury? >> all the science shows that the harder your life the more challenges you are facing, the more you need to be able to tap into your own resilience. and in order to tap into your own resilience you need to actually be able to recharge, be able to sleep and there's no question about that. they have done a study at the university of illinois after a huge downsizing and they found

that two-thirds of the people who were fired fell apart. they became alcoholic, got divorced. one-third went ahead and did better than before. the same bad thing happened, losing your job, but people responded differently. that depends on our own inner resources. all these things we are talking about in the course is almost like building our own inner muscles and making it easier for us to deal with everyday challenges. >> stay with us. on this note given everything we're talking about, by the way, congratulations on the 10th anniversary of "the huffington post." we are three days away from the first know your value event this friday in philadelphia. you can still get tickets by going to msnbc.com/knowyourvalue. the first discussion is closing the deal negotiating effectively. tweet me your questions and we're going to take some of those questions and pose them to our experts on stage.

still ahead this morning, the managing editor of e joins us at the table. ♪ ♪ the beautiful sound of customers making the most of their united flight. power, wi-fi and streaming entertainment. that's... seize the journey friendly. how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20? purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com

it's a big world out there. so why do some cash back cards limit where you can earn bonus cash back? one month, it's only at a few places over here... the next, it's only a few places over there ... what you need is the quicksilver card from capital one. quicksilver gives you unlimited 1.5% cash back on every purchase, everywhere... can your card say that? what's in your wallet? if your purse is starting to look more like a tissue box... you may be muddling through allergies. try zyrtec® for powerful allergy relief. and zyrtec® is different than claritin®. because it starts working faster

on the first day you take it. zyrtec®. muddle no more™ . [ female announcer ] who are we? we are the thinkers. the job jugglers. the up all-nighters. and the ones who turn ideas into action. we've made our passions our life's work. we strive for the moments where we can say, "i did it!" ♪ ♪ we are entrepreneurs who started it all... with a signature. legalzoom has helped start over 1 million businesses, turning dreamers into business owners. and we're here to help start yours.

far more than brain poweou're going to need is googlyness. nothing funny. the intangible stuff that made a search engine into an engine for change. >> a scene from the 2013 comedy "the sbin internship" where grown men compete against young tech geniuses for a spot at google. joining us is the head of people operations at google who reveals the secrets to hiring in his new book "work rules."

and there was a tease line about the book about unequal pay being a good thing. look who you've got here teaming up against you. tell us what you mean. >> i think we'll end up on the same side. when you look performance, people think there's 10% at the top o, 10% at the bottom. what actually happens if you look at sports, nobody thinks it's bizarre you have kobe bryant who is so much better than everybody out there so he gets paid more. you have the same distribution whether you're talking about sales or finance. the best people are worth way more. the other thing is that at google i know this is a sensitive issue, we manage their pay to what we think as an appropriate starting point so women get larger increases. so we correct that on hiring. >> oh, okay, you do?

>> we do. >> do you look at -- while we're on the topic, do you make sure it's equitable? >> so we have salary bonus and stock. every time we run one of these processes, we look to make sure we don't see differences by race, gender, any way we can slice it. we want the system to be fair. that starts with fixing the starting point. >> you guys have been transparent about the need to raise the number of women within technology and even at google i think it was 17% of your technology staff you found was female. what are you doing to try to lift that from 17% to something more reasonable? >> one is the number of women who come into the field. there aren't enough. so we're doing a lot of outreach to schools, colleges, things like that. the bigger thing is women who get computer science degrees leave the field. they step out after 10 or 15 years. we have been building an unconscious bias program. most people aren't racist or

sexist but we do small things that exclude other people. we have been training employees in how to be more sensitive to those issues and we're seeing great results. >> i love the book. i haven't finished it but i started it and i love the ten rules, especially the last one about enjoy your job. how do you bring joy into everything you're doing as well as meaning. you're doing a terrific job at google on that but how are the rules applicable to companies that are not google that don't have unlimited funds or middle size companies all around the country? >> it's a great question. most of the things we do for our people cost nothing. it's not the bean bags or lava lamps or free food. the free food cost s as a lot of money. it's giving people freedom and letting them kind of experiment and find things to do. if you look outside google there's companies that do this.

costco even brandex, they are a textile manufacturer. an industry you think of as not a real friendly one, they do all kinds of things like training to to their women employees on how to be a entrepreneur. they do it in a much lower margin business because they find it is good for business. >> one of my favorite things that you do at google is a program called search inside yourself. i happen to be on its board for full transparency. it's available to help people reduce stress, learn to meditate, and a lot of the things we're talking about. >> that's fantastic. the book is "work rules." thank you very much. it's e great to have you on board. it was a great. book. up next, one of the biggest names in entertainment news. giuliani ya giuliana rancic revealed why a senator helped her to focus on hollywood. the bankruptcy filing was done

the public lighting authority had a hard time of finding a bank. citi did not run away from the table like some other bankers did. they had the strength to help us go to the credit markets and raise the money. it's a brighter day in detroit. kids are feeling safer while they walk to school. 40% of the lights were out but they're not out for long. they're coming back. shopping for a used car is so intimidating. i mean, you feel like you have to be this expert negotiator to get a fair deal. i hate to haggle. when you go to a restaurant you don't haggle over the chicken parmesan. why can't car-buying be like that? ♪ ♪ as long as people drive cars carmax will be the best way to buy them. how much protein does your dog food have? 18 percent? 20?

purina one true instinct has 30. active dogs crave nutrient-dense food. so we made purina one true instinct. learn more at purinaone.com success starts with the right connections. introducing miracle-gro liquafeed universal feeder. turn any hose connection into a clever feeding system for a well-fed garden. miracle-gro. life starts here.

f e! news giuliana rancic. she's the author of "going off script." those are three things you need to survive. >> at least 32. those are just the ones i can count. >> that's a lot.

so cindy and ariana huffington are still with us. is there a moment in your life or one of the stories that's most defining and inspiring you to stop staying on script? >> there are so many, to be quite honest from the beginning. that's what i try to show in the book. you don't have to take one path to success and one path to reach your goals. it's okay to get off the path and do something different that maybe your mother did or friends are doing. i mean it's story after story of kind of an unorthodox approach to reaching my goals. >> she talks a lot about the struggles she's had along the way. >> you tell a story, i know you have told many times, about ted kennedy and how you had a moment with him u that helped you understand what you were meant to do and not meant to do. >> i was in graduate school at the time studying journalism.

i always thought i would be a hard nosed reporter, but not talking about entertainment. i thought i would go into politics. at the time, i was working at a news bureau on capitol hill as an intern. i was at a q&a with ted kennedy after a hearing. it was time to ask questions. i was raising my hand and i so badly wanted to ask a question, i did not think he would ever choose me. all these reporters are sitting there. he points at me and i realize, i do not have a question ready. so i finally muster something up. i think, what do i want to ask him? instead of the hard hitting questions, i said what do you do for fun? >> i want to know the answer. >> he kind of looked at me and goes what do i do for fun? for instance where were you friday night at 11:00 p.m. >> he probably went off the rails. >> it was probably a little

specific. >> way too personal. >> was he playing jenga? just trying to get an essence for who this man is. >> that's the birth of a hollywood career, she's curious. >> i also love the fact that somebody with two daughters just out of college that you're willing to talk about your failures, the rejections to be vulnerable because i feel so often when women succeed, we just kind of don't talk about all the failures along the way. we have so many all of us so i love that part of the book. >> i'm more than happy to talk about that. i have been kicked to the curb so. many times throughout my life with different health battles and things i have gone through. but what i focus on in this book is it's not about just get. ing kicked to the ground. how do you get up how do you recover and what do you do with

that experience. every single experience i have, positive or negative, i try to turn into something valuable in my life. >> that's what you should do. here's my ted kennedy question for you. what do you love and what do you hate the most about hollywood? >> what do i love? >> see, i want to know. >> what i love the most is for the past 14 years i have worked at e and it's given me this incredible platform to not only have fun every day, but also to use it as a platform to help people. i have been able to share my infertileity journey on television and share that. if i didn't have that hollywood platform, i wouldn't reach so many people. that's what i love. everything else i hate. >> i love it. >> just kidding. not a big hollywood person. i grew up in the washington, d.c. area. i'm an east coast girl.

i'm a 1-year-old in italy. i was doing something kind of gross, but i'm a 1-year-old at the time. >> we wouldn't. >> but i'm sorry, go off script for a minute. i'm an east coast girl. my husband is from chicago. we just feel a little more comfortable when we're on the east coast, chicago, so the community, the people, the relationships, i don't have them in los angeles like i do here. >> what were you doing last friday at 11:00 p.m.? >> jenga, no honestly, sleeping. >> i'm jealous. >> i have a 2 1/2-year-old.

i talk about that in the book that i almost feel like that time many my life caused the cancer later because i was on four hours of sleep. >> get her a copy of "thrive." the book is "going off script." up next michelle obama says something about her parents that every parent has likely wanted to say about their own kids. we'll play that sound byte, next on "morning joe." new york state is reinventing how we do business by leading the way on tax cuts. we cut the rates on personal income taxes. we enacted the lowest corporate tax rate since 1968. we eliminated the income tax on manufacturers altogether. with startup-ny, qualified businesses that start, expand or relocate to new york state pay no taxes for 10 years. all to grow our economy and create jobs. see how new york can give your business the opportunity to grow at ny.gov/business

i'm brian vickers, nascar® driver. i'm kevin nealon comedian. and i'm arnold palmer, professional golfer. know what we have in common? we talked to our doctors about treatment with xarelto®. me, when i had a blood clot in my leg that could have traveled to my lungs. that's why i took xarelto®, too. xarelto® is proven to treat and help reduce the risk of dvt and pe blood clots. i took xarelto® for afib... an irregular heartbeat that can lead to a stroke from a blood clot. xarelto® is proven to reduce the risk of stroke in people with afib, not caused by a heart valve problem. hey, well i'm glad we got together. for people with afib currently well managed on warfarin there is limited information on how xarelto® and warfarin compare in reducing the risk of stroke. i tried warfarin before,

but the blood testing routine and dietary restrictions had me off my game. tell me about it. let's see, golf clinic, or blood clinic? ooh, that's a tough one. not this time. not with xarelto®. anything else? i'll have another arnold palmer. ok. make mine a kevin nealon. really, brian? hey, safety first. like all blood thinners, don't stop taking xarelto® without talking to your doctor as this may increase your risk of a blood clot or stroke. while taking xarelto® you may bruise more easily and it may take longer for bleeding to stop. xarelto® may increase your risk of bleeding if you take certain medicines. xarelto® can cause serious bleeding and in rare cases may be fatal. get help right away if you develop unexpected bleeding unusual bruising, or tingling. if you have had spinal anesthesia while on xarelto® watch for back pain or any nerve or muscle-related signs or symptoms. do not take xarelto® if you have an artificial heart valve, or abnormal bleeding. tell your doctor before all planned medical or dental procedures. before starting xarelto® tell your doctor about any conditions such as kidney, liver, or bleeding problems. xarelto® has been prescribed

more than 11 million times in the u.s. and that number's growing. like your guys' scores. with xarelto® there is no regular blood monitoring, and no known dietary restrictions. treatment with xarelto® was the right move for us. ask your doctor about xarelto®. you may be able to get up to 12 months at no cost. woman: it's been a journey to get where i am. and i didn't get here alone. there were people who listened along the way. people who gave me options. kept me on track. and through it all my retirement never got left behind. so today, i'm prepared for anything we may want tomorrow to be. every someday needs a plan. let's talk about your old 401(k) today.

they were named "time" magazine most influential teen. >> yeah i don't know why. they are not influential. they just live here. they have done nothing to gain any influence. >> that's a nice way to say it. how do you say it to your kids? what did you learn today? >> i learned that the head of hr a at google has everybody meditate for two minutes at the beginning of their weekly meeting. if he can do it i ought to be able to do it for one. >> what i learned is that the head of hr at google said this message of meditation is not just for google.

it's for every company, whether you're a little start up for a mid-size company and you're in america. >> thank you both for joining me this half hour. it's time for "the rundown." have a great day, everyone. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart. developing right now the jury in the boston marathon bombing trial expecting to begin deliberating against dzhokhar tsarnaev any moment now. the jury is getting the case a day after lawyers on both sides wrapped up closing arguments and after weeks of graphic. testimony in one of the worst terror attacks on u.s. soil. he faces 30 o criminal counts 17 of which could bring the death penalty. let's go live there now, what's

the latest? >> reporter: good morning, jose. after 16 days of testimony, a jury of seven women and five men will decide his fate. was he as the prosecution argues, a jihadist bent oon disarming america when e he placed those pressure cooker bombs at the finish line nearly two years ago. or as the defense argues he was a naive adolescent following his footsteps. now his defense attorney says he was there, he is responsible, he should be held accountable. now they will look at 30 charges, 17 of them carry murder if he's found guilty on any one of those, we'll move to the penalty phase where they will consider life in prison or death. >> the jury could come back with a verdict time, including today? >> reporter: it's very likely and all they have to do is find him guilty on any one of those