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oting that led to murder charges. "the rachel maddow show" will be covering that live. good evening, rachel. >> thanks for that setup. that's what we are waiting for at this point. thank you for joining us this hour. we do begin with that breaking news out of south carolina. it's from the city of north charleston south carolina and as chris just mentioned a police officer from north charleston has been arrested and charged with murder in the shooting death of an apparently unarmed civilian. at any moment we are expecting a press conference with the family of the man would was killed. s that a live shot showing there the site where we believe the family will be speaking. we'll go to that as soon as it starts. it happened saturday morning in north charleston. police reports show a north charleston police officer stopped a mercedes sedan which you saw just there. the sedan reportedly had a brake light that was not working. the driver of that car was 50-year-old walter scott, you see him on the right. we don't know the exact
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circumstances of what happened after the immediate police stop but mr. scott ended up at some point running from the police officer who stopped him. the police officer then chased mr. scott on foot. that north charleston policeman ended up firing eight shots as he pursued walter scott across a grassy lot in north charleston. mr. scott was shot multiple times and died of his injuries. the officer's attorney yesterday told the local paper that the officer had used his taser on mr. scott during this encounter but that it had not subdued him. the officer's attorney sudden walter scott tried to overpower the officer and take his taser a away from him and he felt threatened and followed all proper procedures before firing his gun eight times at walter scott. that was the news as of yesterday in south carolina. okay, the attorney for the police officer in that fatal shooting defending his client. things changed late today when we got another side of the
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story. turns out there was a cell phone video taken by a bystander of what happened on saturday morning. the attorney for the family of walter scott got a copy of that video and then gave it to "the new york times." they published it late today and this very difficult video i am not going to play this over and over again, it shows a man being killed. i am going to play it now because it is newsworthy in this instance so that you can see it for yourself. that was published just tonight by "the new york times." the paper got it from the lawyer for walter scott's family. walter scott is the man who was shot and killed in that footage. i want to show you one more thing from the aftermath of the shooting depicted in that video. remember that the officer involved in the shooting the officer who fired the shots reported that walter scott had
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taken his taser or was trying to take his taser. after the officer shot and then handcuffed mr. scott, you can see the officer afterwards jog back to another spot -- the tape had basically started. the officer then reaches toward the ground and then he returns back to where mr. scott is lying down shot with the handcuffs on. "the new york times" says that the officer returns to mr. scott and, quote, drops an object near walter scott's body and that maybe that object is the aforementioned taser which he said that walter scott had taken from him. the uncovering of this video appears to have radically changed the course of the investigation of this police shooting in north charleston. today the officer in this case was booked on a murder charge. the officer's name is michael slaying slager. he was arrested and charged at
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the north chaurls ton police station where he works. we have seen a string of police involved shootings recently where officers have used deadly force against unarmed suspects and many of those cases the officers have not been charged and that is part of why they have become such high-profile things the case in ferguson, missouri with the killing of 18-year-old michael brown, the case in staten island new york with the killing of eric garner. those police officers and both of those shootings were not charged. in the past few months though we have also seen cases where police officers using force have been criminally charged for that use of force. in february was a colorado police officer who was arrested after he stopped a man skateboarding followed the man to his home and shot him to death in front of his mother. the first time an on-duty officer had been charged with murder. we're going to the live press conference held in south carolina. >> atlanta, georgia, along with
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attorney justin baneburg. we have the family of mr. scott with us. these are his parents right here. his brother, his children, all of his family here to support tonight. and we're just here to say we have seen all of the developments that happened. and as we watch the news where the mayor announced that the officer would be charged with murder, everyone in the home just started crying and hugging. it brought a short sense of relief and joy that the distance that we have to travel to try to get justice was beginning. and that for the first time in a long time, an officer was going to be charged when something like this happened. we can't bring mr. scott back. but something like this today can have a bigger presence than just what happened here with mr. scott. because what happened today doesn't happen all the time.
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what if there was no video? what if there was no witness or hero, as i call them, to come forward? >> thank you, lord. >> then this would not have happened. the initial reports stated something totally different. the officer said that mr. scott attacked him and pulled his taser and tried to use it on him. but somebody was watching him. >> hallelujah. >> there was a witness that came forward with the video and the initial reports were wrong. and that doesn't happen all of the time across this country. it doesn't happen if you're african-american, it doesn't happen if you're caucasian. if things happen when nobody is watching would we be here today? or would it have just been another victim? we're going to have a representative from the family speak. his brother. >> i'm anthony scott.
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and from the beginning when it happened the first day, all we wanted was the truth. and i think through the process we received the truth. and we can't get my brother back and my family is in deep mourning for that. but through the process of justice being served -- and i don't think that all police officers are bad cops. but there are some bad ones out there. and i don't want to see anyone get shot down the way that my brother got shot down. we have all seen the video. if there wasn't a video would we know the truth? or would we have just gone with what was reported earlier? but we know the truth now. and i ask that everyone continue to pray for my family, that we
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get through this because we do need prayer because prayer changes things. it changes things, and justice will be served. >> first i just want to thank everybody for coming out. i'll be brief. right now, what i want to request of you and everyone watching is that you keep this family in your thoughts and prayers. we will be with them every step of the way. what is done in the dark typically comes to the light. and this is an example of what can happen when people are willing to step up and do the right thing for the right reasons. and it all goes back to this videotape. it has been pointed out time and time again and sometimes as i
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stand here today, i step back and think, where would we be without that video. and fortunately for the family, fortunately for the s.l.e.d. as the investigating agency, and fortunately for the solicitor's office, we don't have to ask that question anymore. so with that said, again, keep the family in your thoughts and prayers. and we will continue to work and make sure that justice is served and if possible, prevent this from happening to somebody else, because things like this do not have to happen and they should not happen. thank you very much. >> sir, what was your name? >> sorry, my name is justin bramberg, i am
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with laneer and burrows and also the state representative for house district 90 representing bamberg. >> that's justin bamberg, an attorney representing the family of walter scott who was killed in north charleston. we heard from another attorney and walter scott's brother. walter scott was shot multiple times by a north charleston police officer during an altercation that began with a traffic stop for what was reportedly a burnt out taillight saturday morning. the initial story from the officer who explained the fatal shooting of walter scott after that traffic incident was that there had been an altercation involving the officer's taser and that the officer had followed all procedures and felt he was threatened and had to use deadly force against walter scott. that narrative changed somewhat after the -- changed somewhat after a bystander to that incident apparently had shot the
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video one that happened on saturday morning, turned that video over to the family the family's attorneys then turned that video over to "the new york times." "the new york times" posted that video on their website tonight and we've got a little bit of tape i want to play from just earlier this evening. the mayor from north charleston mayor keith sumpmy explaining what happened and the decision made to bring murder charges against this police officer. >> we do not look at the responsibility we have lightly. we take the role that when do wrong, we do wrong. the lesson that we take out of this and hopefully the general public takes out of it, is that when an incident occurs, give us the appropriate time to investigate.
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find out exactly what happened and we will act accordingly. >> the mayor of north charleston explaining that the officer in this case made a bad decision. there have been a number of high profile police shootings of unarmed civilians in recent months in this country. shootings like that honestly very rarely result in police officers being criminally charged t has happened a few times in the last few months in february there was a colorado police officer who was charged. the same week new york city police officer was charged again february. in january two albuquerque officers were charged, but it is the rare incident when a police officer does find themselves as a criminal defendant after a shooting like this. i want to bring into the conversation andrew knapp in charleston. thanks very much for being with us. >> thanks for having me. >> what it seems like is the publication of this video
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changed the trajectory of the investigation and maybe even the speed of action around this case. is that fair to say? how do you see this as having involved -- having unfold the over the last few days? >> absolutely. once the video came out today and once we knew of it once the authorities knew of it last night, i think things moved fairly quickly. and like the family said like many city officials have already said without the video there's no telling if investigators could find out truly what happened. but fortunately for getting to the bottom of this there was a witness there who happened to be filming it and that video really resulted in this arrest of this officer today. >> what do we know? what can you tell us about how the video arose? obviously this incident happened on saturday morning. you can tell from the person remarking to themselves as they are shooting the video that they
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know exactly what it is that they are seeing. they recognize the gravity of what they have caught on film. do we know anything about how the video eventually got to the family and then into the public record? >> well, i know the person who shot it was a young resident of that area and he brought the video to the family like you've already said and then the family turned it over to us and some other media outlets, as well. but i think there was some hesitation or apprehension on the part of the resident who filmed it as far as bringing it forward to the authorities who are actually investigating the shooting. and here in south carolina as the state law enforcement division which typically investigates officer-involved shootings it's not the police department itself the force on which this officer served. so -- but there was still some
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hesitation there by this resident, but he eventually brought it to the family and i don't know what the time line was but i know it was in the authorities' hands at least by last night. so like i said things have moved fairly quickly. >> andrew, i know you have reported previously on relationships between this police department and the local community. is this a high pressure relationship or is this an anxiety-ridden relationship between the police in that particular community and local folks? >> it really depends on who you ask. a lot. the residents, mostly black poorer communities in the city will say that there are some strained relations as far as their relationship with the police department. but the city officials in the past few years have tried to
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address that by opening a lining communication with community leaders, activists and those people, those leaders say that the communication with the police commanders have gotten better, but at the same time the rank and file members of the police department still -- there's still some strained relations there with residents in the community. i don't recall any incident like this in my memory but there have been other controversial shootings in the past involving the north charleston police department. and this has been an ongoing thing for the department. it's been something they've been trying to address and i think this shooting tonight over the weekend was a culmination of that. >> andrew knapp, thanks for helping us understand the context here. i appreciate you being here. >> sure. msnbc national correspondent
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joy reid is not only here but in contact with representatives from walter scott's family. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> remarkable press conference, their attorneys and direct relatives. what have you heard in terms of the family and their concerns. >> the initial concerns were that for four days the officer's story in their mind was a fabrication. the initial story by the officer was that walter scott posed a threat to him, attempted to take his taser and was violent toward the officer and that essentially was allowed to tan as the story. it was the story that his then attorney also told and then you have -- >> the officer's attorney. >> the officer's attorney told so the family felt that over the course of that time that story was just bought hook -- it was just bought without question. then you had this person come forward. we don't know yet who this person is but they filmed so much of this encounter, later in
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the tape if you keep going, you see the second officer comes up. there is an interaction between the other officer, so you wonder what did that second officer see, what did that other officer report happened? there is the question of whether or not the officer in question dropped or put something down near the body. there are a lot of questions that this videotape at least appears to begin to answer. >> and in terms of the rebutting of the case that stood for four days with the officers' then attorney -- the officer's actions were warranted because he felt threatened has there been any rebuttal other than this videotape? any other witnesses come forward? do the family have any reason to rebut that. >> there wasn't any other independent evidence. when i saw the tape whey thought about was the question of this fleeing felon rule. these old laws that used to be on the book that allowed an officer to use deadly force because a suspect was fleeing. >> whether or not they pose a threat. >> so i called kendall coffey
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who we both know the former attorney general to ask whether or not even if there had been no videotape whether it would be problematic for a police officer to shoot someone who was cleary running away and he essentially said as a constitutional matter tennessee versus garner, 1985 supreme court case that only circumstance in which a fleeing sarah can be shot if that person clearly posed some violent threat. they were accused of a violent felony. in the case of mr. scott this was a traffic violation. he had nothing in his record that was more serious than failure to pay child support. things like that that were in his record so there was nothing obvious about him that made him an obvious danger to the officer so then you had the officer say he attempted to attack me. i was in fear of my life. even independent of the video you'd have to ask whether a suspect like this person posed enough of a threat clearly
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running away i think that is the question that the videotape actually obviously brings up. >> and that gets you to the legal question and then of course there's just the narrative and human incredible drama of having this videotape of this incredibly dramatic and ultimately deadly encounter and change what apparently will be the path of accountability or a search for justice. msnbc national skoerptscorrespondent. thanks for being with us. very busy news night tonight. check out escape and find out why ford is the brand more people buy and buy again. wow! that's a four-cylinder? i thought it was a six. i definitely feel the ecoboost in the ford escape. that's like a sports car. i just opened my trunk with my foot. i prefer, without a doubt, the escape over the cr-v. take the ecoboost challenge at your ford dealer. for a limited-time get an escape with up to two-thousand total cash back plus seven-fifty conquest cash with a qualifying competitive vehicle in your house. bring us your aching... and sleep deprived.
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absolutely incredible. it is a graphic novel, first graphic novel ever done by a mell of congress, it was just a juggernaut. well now part two is out. book two, there's john lewis at a crystal hamburger stand in nashville, tennessee asking to be served at that segregated restaurant. the restaurant staff closed the restaurant locked him and the other protesters in in the dark turned on the fumigating machine they used to pump out recipe sides basically trying to kill them inside that building. the fire department broke down the door and dragged them out. there's john lewis and the other students in the nashville student movement politely standing in line at the whites only movie theater in nashville asking for a ticket being told no, going to the back of the line. asking for a ticket ultimately being beaten by police getting arrested for that protest. the movement debated whether the violence was getting so danger dangerous particularly the violence from police officers that maybe the moral thing to do was to protect people from that
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violence by stopping their demonstrations stopping the march, trying to find some other way. there's john lewis stubbornly again and again in those debates saying, no we're going to march, we're going to march. we're going to march no matter what. when john lewis became a freedom rider in the summer of 1961 he was beating very badly at rock hill, south carolina. it was sheer happenstance he wasn't there when the bus -- from the freedom riders' bus he was was firebombed and ambushed in alabama. john lewis was a devotee of mahatma gandhi and his principles principles of nonviolence. young john lewis was not on that bus when it got firebombed because he was interviewing for a fellowship to go to india to follow in gaungndhi's foot psteps. after the freedom riders were
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greeted with such violence and so many were hurt so badly and calls to call off the freedom rides john lewis was one of those saying no. they had to go on. and he got back on himself. he went on to birmingham where they were dragged off to jail and then they were driven out into klan country and dumped off on the side of the road. they went 0 montgomery where they were beaten by a mob outside the bus station. a mob that also beat up the press. a mob that also beat up john seigenthaler to try to make peace with local authorities. they went on to jackson, mississippi, where they were not only beaten and jailed they were ultimately sent to the state penitentiary to parchment farm in mississippi. john lewis did not take that fellowship and go to india. he stayed in the south, he was obstinate against one side in refusing to back down in the face of violence and obstinate against another side in refusing to being nonviolent himself.
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he became the head fof student nonviolent coordinating committee and at age 23 he was the man would spoke just before martin luther king gave his "i have have a dream" speech. he was 23 years old, the youngest speaker that day and he was the one who had been beaten and arrested more frequently and more recently than anybody else who spoke that day. he was the man whose speech oried everyone the most that day. and he writes now in the new book about the frantic up to the last second appeals to john lewis to please please for that speech at the march on washington, please tone it down. and he did tone it down a little. ♪ ♪ will come some day ♪
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>> brother john lewis. [ applause ] >> so that we may be patient and wait we have said that we cannot be patient. we do not want our freedom gradually but we want to be free now. [ applause ] >> we are tired. we are tired of being beaten by policemen. we are tired of seeing our people locked number jail over and over again and then you howler be patient. how long can we be patient? we want our freedom and we want it now. we do not want to go to jail. but we will go to jail if this is the prize we must play for love brotherhood and true peace. i appeal all of you to get in this great revolution that is sweeping this nation.
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get in and stay with us for ef every everyone has true freedom and we are free. we must get in this revolution and complete the revolution by the force of our demands, our determination and our numbers, we shall splinter the segregated south into a thousand pieces and put them together in the image of god and democracy. we must wake up america. wake up for we can mott stop and we will not and cannot be patient. [ cheers and applause ] joining us now for "the interview" are congressman john lewis, and nate powell, who together did this book. thank you, gentleman, this is amazing stuff. >> thank you. >> you're doing a trilogy. this is book two. what did you guys i guess collectively,
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and you can't speak in unison, but what did you learn when part one was so successful? what did you learn about telling this history and how much people knew about it and what they can still learn from it? >> so many people didn't know the history, and we felt we had an obligation to tell the story, the whole story, the complete story. to see the interest on the part of children young children, problem school students, high school students, college students, and adults. they wanted to know. >> were you surprised by this? nate, you had been in the graphic novel community for a long time. accomplished artist. andrew, you knew the subject matter back and forth. were you surprised that it was taken up in particular by so many schools? i mean this is being book one and now already book two is being taught nationwide. >> well i think when we look at the kids and how much they want to know right, it's not just that they read it the first time but then they ask question, what happened after that? they want to know about the
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tactics. my favorite moment of all of this was when a reporter called us and said they gave a book to his 9-year-old son and his son read it and he wouldn't put on his sunday suit and started marching around his house demanding equality for everyone. >> congressman, one of the things that i never really understood before reading this is why they needed to talk you out of some of your more incendiary rhetoric you had planned for that speech. just seeing you as a congressman, learning about you as a figure in terms of what i knew of your history, i didn't understand why you would ever have to be talked out of something like that. i feel like reading this book now i understand a lot more about sort of the co-existence of nonviolence and anger within you. is that something you were trying to get across here? >> well i tried to he press a sense of righteous indignation. people did say you need to wait. you're going too fast. you cannot use sudden words but i wanted to insist that we need
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to do it here and now, the urgency that people couldn't wait. people couldn't be patient with the philosophy and the discipline of nonviolence. >> did you feel frustrated when these other civil rights leaders came to you and said no we got a problem with your speech your tone is going to hurt our political efforts? i mean in the book it's clear that you are surprised, you're taken aback that you are controversial at this moment. were you resentful? >> well no, not resentful but i did say on occasion to one or two of the leaders, older than 23, i said this is our speech. prepare for the people that we are working with. the people that we will represent in the heart of the deep south in rural alabama, in the delta, mississippi, in southwest georgia, we are understand their suffering, their pains, the hurt and their disappointment. >> nate, one of the things i
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wanted to ago you about is how much many there is really graphic -- i mean it's not gory but graphic depiction of violence here. did you make a deliberate decision about showing so much of the violence that he was subjected to? >> well a very conscious focus that all of us as a team determined early on was in congressman lewis' words we have to make it plain and tell the whole story and as opposition to the movement intensifies the natural consequence of the story storytelling is that graphic violence and verbal violence are made much more plain and more more intense so a lot of that is dealing with it as the book is published and received by schools, by schools, by libraries but that can't be swept under rug especially at this juncture at this time and place allowing people to connect both as victims and perpetrators of violence within the book is
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very powerful and -- >> you don't see it very often. i mean we have -- we're all steeped in the movement. it is mostly an oi-- very little is meant as a perpetrator of violence. because it has been adopted so aggressively and so enthusiastically by educators, people of all ages there is this one scene in the book which is not central to the narrative. not a lot of discussion but it is depicted very viscerally which is in montgomery the mob of people attacking you, attacking the protesters there and there's women holding babies screaming racial epithets at people and one woman who very graphically tells her young son eggs him on tells had him to physically attack a man on the ground, gouge his eyes out. may be depicted with a 6 or 7-year-old son cheering him on to get blood on his hands. what kind of decision-making process did you go through to decide that was an important
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part of this story? where did that story come from? >> well that story was in the congressman's recollection and from other places it's cited. for us i mean think about that kid was just a few years older than barack obama, president barack obama right now. a real person who has to live with that. when you confront these stories, we're confronting not just things from the past but things people are living with and we can't hide any of that. that's the only way we can have hey true conversation about where we're going as a country and as a nation. >> congressman, are you looking forward to finishing this trilogy. >> oh, yes i am. but the struggle was not just a struggle for a few days or a few weeks, a few months or a few years so to finish is going to take a little time. but we're going to work together and we're going to finish it. >> congressman john lewis, andrew aidan, nate powell great work. i know you're takinged world by storm with this. well done. great to see you. >> thank you.
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>> the movie "gattaca" came out in october of 1997, did terribly. but 16 years later in october 2013 "gattaca" made an unusual comeback or at least the wikipedia page about "gattaca" had an unusual comeback. >> in the movie "gattica" in the not too distant future dna plays a role in determining your social -- >> the weird thing about that line from senator paul's speech today in the not too distant future it's common and dna plays a primary role in determining your social class is that line appears almost verbatim in the wikipedia entry on "gattaca." quote, in the not too distant future -- hey, that's what rand paul said. that was october 28th, 2013. we were reporting on a rand paul speech in virginia that day and we discovered kind of accident that
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he had ripped his speech off from wikipedia. he just copied the wikipedia page word for word and that made up a big chunk of his speech. we were first to report that that night. then it sort of blew up in part because it turns out rand paul did this thing all the time. a reporter at buzzfeed reported out that rand paul plagiarized whole sections of the wikipedia entry from another movie for a different speech on immigration reform. that was wikipedia entry for the movie "stand and deliver." i don't know if you liked that movie but he definitely liked that because it turns out he copy and pasted that stand and deliver speech more than once. the wikipedia entry for "stand and deliver" describe the main plot this way "in the area of east los angeles in 1992 a new teacher at garfield high school," that's
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wikipedia. here's rand paul. >> in the area of east l.a. in 1982, in an environment that values a quick fix on education over learning, e escalanta was a new math teacher at garfield high school. >> rand paul was just reading wikipedia and passing it if it was his own words. a few days after that, one time he ripped off the associated press in his state of the union response in 2013. that takes chutzpa in a national address like that. and then again in a speech at howard university in 2013, he ripped off a passage from the conservative group called focus on the family. also, there was him plagiarizing in an op-ed. he wrote for "the washington times" also pages and pages of his book were just copied and pasted for some conservative think tank. he did a lot. and all these stories started to break. and senator rand paul at first just refused to answer any questions about them.
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look, rand paul mum after plagiarism allegation. but then ultimately he decided to talk about it. his explanation for all those instances where he had found up to be ripping people off and copying portions of people's work and presenting it as his own, his explanation when he decided to talk about it was that it was very unfair for people to be point thing out. people were only reporting this sort of thing because they hate him. >> i take it as an insult and i will not lie down and say people can call me dishonest, misleading or misrepresenting. i have never intentionally done so and like i say, if dueling were legal in kentucky, if they keep it up you know, it would be a duel challenge. but i can't do that, because i can't hold office in kentucky. >> after saying he wished to duel with the people reporting on his many instances as doing this, senator paul then sat with an interview where the interviewer described him as furious.
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it annoys the hell out of me. he said, i feel like if i can just go to detention after school everything would be okay. everything would be okay. but do i have to be in detention for the rest of my career? he sat for an interview with "the new york times" described him as clearly shaken. he told "the times" what were re -- what we are going to do from here forward if it will make people leave me the hell alone we'll do them like college papers and try to put out footnotes. there then followed where he sent out footnotes of a sarcastic page of footnotes of things he talked about. when explaining why he plagiarized so many times, he blamed it on the stress of his heavy workload. as a junior senator. kwt" "things are done quickly and in a hurry and sometimes i get things sent to me while i'm doing a speech. read this for approval in 20 minutes." he said, we write something every week for "the washington times" and i'm riding around in a car in between things trying to figure out if i can approve it. we need to get stuff earlier but it's hard. we probably take on more than we
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should be doing. being a junior senator probably is hard. plus a once a week column. it's probably tough. if it is tough enough for you that you cannot handle that kind of a workload without plagiarizing your speeches and columns whole wholesale and threatening to duel with people who report on you for doing that and it makes you threaten to quit politics forever and go home and back to being an eye doctor, maybe being a junior senator is not for you. maybe you're not up to it. well today senator rand paul announced that he would like to be president. >> i have a message! a message that is loud and clear and does not mince words. we have come to take our country back. [ applause ] today, i announce, with god's help, with the help of liberty lovers everywhere, that i am
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putting myself forward as a candidate for president of the united states of america. >> in the span of a year and a >> i know rand paul says this is very clear, but when he said, i'm coming to take the country back, i don't know what that means. can you help me? >> can we have it back when he's done with it? >> he'll answer all those questions eventually. thank you, rachel. there are now two official republican candidates for president. but first, the breaking news from south carolina tonight. a police officer in north charleston, south carolina, is charged with murder after a video was revealed today sho